Bin misery goes on in Brighton and Hove

Bin misery goes on in Brighton and Hove

Bin misery goes on in Brighton and Hove

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Bin misery for hundreds of Brighton and Hove householders continues.

Due to a cost-cutting reorganisation of rounds and disruption due to the festive break, waste is piling up across Brighton and Hove.

Despite the local authority apologising for the inconvenience and stating it had brought in extra crews to catch up, householders are still complaining of disruption.

Tristram Bradley, of Horizon Close, off Old Shoreham Road, Portslade, said: “I’ve rung the council four times and still not sorted it out.

“If it’s not collected soon we will not be able to get anywhere.”


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Ben Simmonds, of Freshfield Road, Brighton, said: “I wouldn't normally make a fuss but the recycling collection service seems to have fallen apart.

“Despite numerous phone calls we have had no recycling collection since Christmas, and yes our recycling was out on the correct days. It has now been out on the street for almost a fortnight.”

But Conservative councillor Dawn Barnett said: “It’s no good putting all the blame on Cityclean.

They have done the best they can in the torrential weather.”

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12:35pm Fri 10 Jan 14

TimS says...

I wonder if the food-waste recycling has been protected from funding changes?
I wonder if the food-waste recycling has been protected from funding changes? TimS
  • Score: -3

12:39pm Fri 10 Jan 14

The Prophet of Doom says...

Happy New Year to BH residents.
Happy New Year to BH residents. The Prophet of Doom
  • Score: 11

12:55pm Fri 10 Jan 14

BornInBrighton1968 says...

2014; the year of a vote of no-confidence against the wretched, incompetent Green council.
2014; the year of a vote of no-confidence against the wretched, incompetent Green council. BornInBrighton1968
  • Score: 24

1:18pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Ohnotagain ! says...

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
2014; the year of a vote of no-confidence against the wretched, incompetent Green council.
Don't worry BornInBrighton1968, if we are not lucky enough to dispose of them with a vote of no confidence this year, we only have 16 months until we can overwhelmingly kick them out via the ballot box.
[quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: 2014; the year of a vote of no-confidence against the wretched, incompetent Green council.[/p][/quote]Don't worry BornInBrighton1968, if we are not lucky enough to dispose of them with a vote of no confidence this year, we only have 16 months until we can overwhelmingly kick them out via the ballot box. Ohnotagain !
  • Score: 14

1:34pm Fri 10 Jan 14

honeyandlemon says...

They blame everything, they do an outdoor job so should not make excuses about weather....I suggest people take the recycling and dump outside the Town hall, it will soon get moved. All we hear are excuses after excuses....Just do the job or employ people who will do the job. There is no other industry that would allow workers to do such a terrible job without dismissing them.. Brighton is just an extremely dirty city, always has been whoever runs it. When you watch them collect they drop litter and then leave it strewn over the Streets, they dump recycle boxes where ever they want, they pick and chose what bags they are going to take, the street cleaners spend more time playing on their phones than doing a job. Get the City cleaned up. Sorry to the city cleaners that actually do a proper job, unfortunately you are in the minority.
They blame everything, they do an outdoor job so should not make excuses about weather....I suggest people take the recycling and dump outside the Town hall, it will soon get moved. All we hear are excuses after excuses....Just do the job or employ people who will do the job. There is no other industry that would allow workers to do such a terrible job without dismissing them.. Brighton is just an extremely dirty city, always has been whoever runs it. When you watch them collect they drop litter and then leave it strewn over the Streets, they dump recycle boxes where ever they want, they pick and chose what bags they are going to take, the street cleaners spend more time playing on their phones than doing a job. Get the City cleaned up. Sorry to the city cleaners that actually do a proper job, unfortunately you are in the minority. honeyandlemon
  • Score: 13

1:53pm Fri 10 Jan 14

NickBtn says...

The council are blaming the disruption on the festive holidays and the bad weather. Both are very predictable. Indeed the weather could be more challenging - snow/ice for instance.

The new scheme clearly has flaws and has no tolerance for problems. Since problems, such as bad weather, will always happen the managers and the councillors who oversee need to make some changes. If they can't then they too should be changed
The council are blaming the disruption on the festive holidays and the bad weather. Both are very predictable. Indeed the weather could be more challenging - snow/ice for instance. The new scheme clearly has flaws and has no tolerance for problems. Since problems, such as bad weather, will always happen the managers and the councillors who oversee need to make some changes. If they can't then they too should be changed NickBtn
  • Score: 15

2:01pm Fri 10 Jan 14

MuammarQaddafi says...

A Council that can't collect the rubbish, IS rubbish. Roll on election time.
A Council that can't collect the rubbish, IS rubbish. Roll on election time. MuammarQaddafi
  • Score: 19

2:10pm Fri 10 Jan 14

BN41_RMP says...

I don't really understand where Dawn Barnett's coming from with her comments, I live on Mile Oak Road and have had various problems with Cityclean over the past few months. I firstly e-mailed Cityclean (in October - it would seem the notification of new collections didn't come to my house!) to confirm my recycling dates, I was advised by the automated service to use the website as it would list the dates my recycling in particular was due to be collected. I used the website to be informed that I should 'use the communal bins in my area' I know that there aren't communal bins on Mile Oak Road so I resorted to e-mailing Cityclean after being on hold with them for nearly 20 minutes and not being able to get through. After a week and a half I hadn't had a response and my recycling was piling up, I again rang Cityclean and in actual fact got through to them fairly quickly. I was informed by a very helpful lady that my recycling was collected every two weeks on a Wednesday. Great - problem solved, you'd think! I then a few days later received an e-mail response to my initial e-mail enquiry stating that my collection would be on a Friday! This obviously led me to become quite confused! Rather than try and communicate with Cityclean further I left my recycling out on the Tuesday evening in case the collection was on the Wednesday (it wasn't) so rather than carry the black boxes back into the house absolutely soaked, I left it out for the Friday collection which thankfully was picked up. I was astounded to then receive an e-mail from Cityclean telling me that my recycling was not able to be picked up as it was in the incorrect place (It had been picked up!) I ignored this and a few days later received a letter, again from Cityclean implying that I left my recycling out 24/7 (I don't) and reminding me of my collection days and asking me not to leave my recycling out at all times as it is unsightly (i don't have the letter in front of me but that was the implication!) The letter also stated my next bin and recycling collection dates as a helpful reminder! Well, it would have been helpful if it had been correct, thankfully I have had my bins and recycling collected this year and I know a lot of people haven't but really, I don't believe Dawn Barnett can blame purely adverse weather for the lack of service, the weather has been particularly horrid but does that indicate that so many bins should yet again be left uncollected? This has been going on for months and whilst the people on the end of the phone are pleasant enough the whole thing is a joke and Cityclean need to buck their ideas up, I'm just glad I didn't get one of those 'oops, you didn't separate your recycling' stickers, I really would have blown a fuse then!
I don't really understand where Dawn Barnett's coming from with her comments, I live on Mile Oak Road and have had various problems with Cityclean over the past few months. I firstly e-mailed Cityclean (in October - it would seem the notification of new collections didn't come to my house!) to confirm my recycling dates, I was advised by the automated service to use the website as it would list the dates my recycling in particular was due to be collected. I used the website to be informed that I should 'use the communal bins in my area' I know that there aren't communal bins on Mile Oak Road so I resorted to e-mailing Cityclean after being on hold with them for nearly 20 minutes and not being able to get through. After a week and a half I hadn't had a response and my recycling was piling up, I again rang Cityclean and in actual fact got through to them fairly quickly. I was informed by a very helpful lady that my recycling was collected every two weeks on a Wednesday. Great - problem solved, you'd think! I then a few days later received an e-mail response to my initial e-mail enquiry stating that my collection would be on a Friday! This obviously led me to become quite confused! Rather than try and communicate with Cityclean further I left my recycling out on the Tuesday evening in case the collection was on the Wednesday (it wasn't) so rather than carry the black boxes back into the house absolutely soaked, I left it out for the Friday collection which thankfully was picked up. I was astounded to then receive an e-mail from Cityclean telling me that my recycling was not able to be picked up as it was in the incorrect place (It had been picked up!) I ignored this and a few days later received a letter, again from Cityclean implying that I left my recycling out 24/7 (I don't) and reminding me of my collection days and asking me not to leave my recycling out at all times as it is unsightly (i don't have the letter in front of me but that was the implication!) The letter also stated my next bin and recycling collection dates as a helpful reminder! Well, it would have been helpful if it had been correct, thankfully I have had my bins and recycling collected this year and I know a lot of people haven't but really, I don't believe Dawn Barnett can blame purely adverse weather for the lack of service, the weather has been particularly horrid but does that indicate that so many bins should yet again be left uncollected? This has been going on for months and whilst the people on the end of the phone are pleasant enough the whole thing is a joke and Cityclean need to buck their ideas up, I'm just glad I didn't get one of those 'oops, you didn't separate your recycling' stickers, I really would have blown a fuse then! BN41_RMP
  • Score: 22

2:35pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Richada says...

Oh I am so glad to read that we only one of "hundreds" of households not to have recieved any refuse service since before Christmas!

The bin collection is in a state of total chaos, in the street below ours TWO collections have taken place since Christmas - here we last saw a dustcart on 19th December.

The non-perishable recycling was done last Saturday, exactly according to the schedule. The bins, mostly containing rotting Christmas food waste along with a mountain of blackl plastic sacks (ripped apart by urban wildlife)........all we've had are promises of "tomorrow - leave your bins out".

Never mind, at least I'm only one of "hundreds" - much consolation drawn from that!
Oh I am so glad to read that we only one of "hundreds" of households not to have recieved any refuse service since before Christmas! The bin collection is in a state of total chaos, in the street below ours TWO collections have taken place since Christmas - here we last saw a dustcart on 19th December. The non-perishable recycling was done last Saturday, exactly according to the schedule. The bins, mostly containing rotting Christmas food waste along with a mountain of blackl plastic sacks (ripped apart by urban wildlife)........all we've had are promises of "tomorrow - leave your bins out". Never mind, at least I'm only one of "hundreds" - much consolation drawn from that! Richada
  • Score: 9

2:37pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Richada says...

The Prophet of Doom wrote:
Happy New Year to BH residents.
And a jolly rubbish-free New Year to you too!
[quote][p][bold]The Prophet of Doom[/bold] wrote: Happy New Year to BH residents.[/p][/quote]And a jolly rubbish-free New Year to you too! Richada
  • Score: 2

2:45pm Fri 10 Jan 14

RickH says...

Conservative councillor Dawn Barnett said: “It’s no good putting all the blame on Cityclean. They have done the best they can in the torrential weather.”

Absolutely 100% spot-on Cllr Barnett - culpability for ensuring services run properly lies with our elected represenatives - I beleive that includes you!
Conservative councillor Dawn Barnett said: “It’s no good putting all the blame on Cityclean. They have done the best they can in the torrential weather.” Absolutely 100% spot-on Cllr Barnett - culpability for ensuring services run properly lies with our elected represenatives - I beleive that includes you! RickH
  • Score: 19

3:29pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Crystal Ball says...

Regardless of the Festive Period, the revised collection dates for refuse and recycling collection bear no correlation to what is actually happening on the streets i.e. next to nothing.
Regardless of the Festive Period, the revised collection dates for refuse and recycling collection bear no correlation to what is actually happening on the streets i.e. next to nothing. Crystal Ball
  • Score: 11

3:53pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Richada says...

Crystal Ball wrote:
Regardless of the Festive Period, the revised collection dates for refuse and recycling collection bear no correlation to what is actually happening on the streets i.e. next to nothing.
In a nutshell!
[quote][p][bold]Crystal Ball[/bold] wrote: Regardless of the Festive Period, the revised collection dates for refuse and recycling collection bear no correlation to what is actually happening on the streets i.e. next to nothing.[/p][/quote]In a nutshell! Richada
  • Score: 5

3:55pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Richada says...

RickH wrote:
Conservative councillor Dawn Barnett said: “It’s no good putting all the blame on Cityclean. They have done the best they can in the torrential weather.”

Absolutely 100% spot-on Cllr Barnett - culpability for ensuring services run properly lies with our elected represenatives - I beleive that includes you!
I'm sorry, but the weather actually has very little to do with this, we're now two weeks overdue on a "catch-ip" collection from 27.12.
[quote][p][bold]RickH[/bold] wrote: Conservative councillor Dawn Barnett said: “It’s no good putting all the blame on Cityclean. They have done the best they can in the torrential weather.” Absolutely 100% spot-on Cllr Barnett - culpability for ensuring services run properly lies with our elected represenatives - I beleive that includes you![/p][/quote]I'm sorry, but the weather actually has very little to do with this, we're now two weeks overdue on a "catch-ip" collection from 27.12. Richada
  • Score: 6

4:33pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Pheasant pluckers son says...

The problem isn't the city clean crews themselves but those who are paid to organise the rounds . There just isn't simply enough vehicles and crews to go around and it's just going to get worse and worse as cost cutting measures are brought in every year. Something Mark Turner and the countless manual workers have stated from day 1 of the city clean restructures. Just wait and see the state town center when Kurb side recycling is stopped and communal recycling bins are around the town.
How conservative councillor Dawn Barnett can blame the wet weather for the state of the Christmas collection fiasco is beyond belief. Obviously she has never spent any time with the crews. These guys work in extreme weather conditions, the heat, cold, and wet weather. It's not about blaming the crews but those who try to organasize them.
Perhaps The council should channel some of £16 million is makes annually out of parking charges into getting the basics of running and providing a service to the tax payer rather than making a profit out of them
The problem isn't the city clean crews themselves but those who are paid to organise the rounds . There just isn't simply enough vehicles and crews to go around and it's just going to get worse and worse as cost cutting measures are brought in every year. Something Mark Turner and the countless manual workers have stated from day 1 of the city clean restructures. Just wait and see the state town center when Kurb side recycling is stopped and communal recycling bins are around the town. How conservative councillor Dawn Barnett can blame the wet weather for the state of the Christmas collection fiasco is beyond belief. Obviously she has never spent any time with the crews. These guys work in extreme weather conditions, the heat, cold, and wet weather. It's not about blaming the crews but those who try to organasize them. Perhaps The council should channel some of £16 million is makes annually out of parking charges into getting the basics of running and providing a service to the tax payer rather than making a profit out of them Pheasant pluckers son
  • Score: 11

5:09pm Fri 10 Jan 14

hoveresident24 says...

who else should we blame apart from the incapable idiots who can't seem to do their job properly. a little bit of rain and they can't work?? the rest of us do so get off ur backsides and do ur job cause it is disgusting where we are!!
who else should we blame apart from the incapable idiots who can't seem to do their job properly. a little bit of rain and they can't work?? the rest of us do so get off ur backsides and do ur job cause it is disgusting where we are!! hoveresident24
  • Score: 0

6:47pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Eugenius says...

Pheasant pluckers son wrote:
The problem isn't the city clean crews themselves but those who are paid to organise the rounds . There just isn't simply enough vehicles and crews to go around and it's just going to get worse and worse as cost cutting measures are brought in every year. Something Mark Turner and the countless manual workers have stated from day 1 of the city clean restructures. Just wait and see the state town center when Kurb side recycling is stopped and communal recycling bins are around the town.
How conservative councillor Dawn Barnett can blame the wet weather for the state of the Christmas collection fiasco is beyond belief. Obviously she has never spent any time with the crews. These guys work in extreme weather conditions, the heat, cold, and wet weather. It's not about blaming the crews but those who try to organasize them.
Perhaps The council should channel some of £16 million is makes annually out of parking charges into getting the basics of running and providing a service to the tax payer rather than making a profit out of them
Agree with half of your points but the council doesn't make a "profit" from parking as this revenue is used to pay for the statutory concessionary bus passes (pensioners and disabled residents) and car park and road maintenance.

Some of the current problems are due to the fact that overtime for refuse workers is no longer as rewarding as it used to be. Legally the council had no option to continue paying a special rate to one group of workers, and that's not a Green issue, it would have come home to roost for whoever was in administration now.
[quote][p][bold]Pheasant pluckers son[/bold] wrote: The problem isn't the city clean crews themselves but those who are paid to organise the rounds . There just isn't simply enough vehicles and crews to go around and it's just going to get worse and worse as cost cutting measures are brought in every year. Something Mark Turner and the countless manual workers have stated from day 1 of the city clean restructures. Just wait and see the state town center when Kurb side recycling is stopped and communal recycling bins are around the town. How conservative councillor Dawn Barnett can blame the wet weather for the state of the Christmas collection fiasco is beyond belief. Obviously she has never spent any time with the crews. These guys work in extreme weather conditions, the heat, cold, and wet weather. It's not about blaming the crews but those who try to organasize them. Perhaps The council should channel some of £16 million is makes annually out of parking charges into getting the basics of running and providing a service to the tax payer rather than making a profit out of them[/p][/quote]Agree with half of your points but the council doesn't make a "profit" from parking as this revenue is used to pay for the statutory concessionary bus passes (pensioners and disabled residents) and car park and road maintenance. Some of the current problems are due to the fact that overtime for refuse workers is no longer as rewarding as it used to be. Legally the council had no option to continue paying a special rate to one group of workers, and that's not a Green issue, it would have come home to roost for whoever was in administration now. Eugenius
  • Score: -6

6:54pm Fri 10 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

good, long may it continue, then the tw*ts here who just sit moaning behind their keyboards, might actually want to do something about it.
good, long may it continue, then the tw*ts here who just sit moaning behind their keyboards, might actually want to do something about it. All 9 of me
  • Score: -14

6:56pm Fri 10 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

hoveresident24 wrote:
who else should we blame apart from the incapable idiots who can't seem to do their job properly. a little bit of rain and they can't work?? the rest of us do so get off ur backsides and do ur job cause it is disgusting where we are!!
Blame yourselves, for allowing the administration to get away with it.
[quote][p][bold]hoveresident24[/bold] wrote: who else should we blame apart from the incapable idiots who can't seem to do their job properly. a little bit of rain and they can't work?? the rest of us do so get off ur backsides and do ur job cause it is disgusting where we are!![/p][/quote]Blame yourselves, for allowing the administration to get away with it. All 9 of me
  • Score: -9

6:59pm Fri 10 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

honeyandlemon wrote:
They blame everything, they do an outdoor job so should not make excuses about weather....I suggest people take the recycling and dump outside the Town hall, it will soon get moved. All we hear are excuses after excuses....Just do the job or employ people who will do the job. There is no other industry that would allow workers to do such a terrible job without dismissing them.. Brighton is just an extremely dirty city, always has been whoever runs it. When you watch them collect they drop litter and then leave it strewn over the Streets, they dump recycle boxes where ever they want, they pick and chose what bags they are going to take, the street cleaners spend more time playing on their phones than doing a job. Get the City cleaned up. Sorry to the city cleaners that actually do a proper job, unfortunately you are in the minority.
Maybe you should do it then, and not just write here (dump your stuff at the town hall), gobbing off about how terrible the council are. Are you all total invertebrates ?
[quote][p][bold]honeyandlemon[/bold] wrote: They blame everything, they do an outdoor job so should not make excuses about weather....I suggest people take the recycling and dump outside the Town hall, it will soon get moved. All we hear are excuses after excuses....Just do the job or employ people who will do the job. There is no other industry that would allow workers to do such a terrible job without dismissing them.. Brighton is just an extremely dirty city, always has been whoever runs it. When you watch them collect they drop litter and then leave it strewn over the Streets, they dump recycle boxes where ever they want, they pick and chose what bags they are going to take, the street cleaners spend more time playing on their phones than doing a job. Get the City cleaned up. Sorry to the city cleaners that actually do a proper job, unfortunately you are in the minority.[/p][/quote]Maybe you should do it then, and not just write here (dump your stuff at the town hall), gobbing off about how terrible the council are. Are you all total invertebrates ? All 9 of me
  • Score: -10

7:31pm Fri 10 Jan 14

mimseycal says...

Eugenius wrote:
Pheasant pluckers son wrote:
The problem isn't the city clean crews themselves but those who are paid to organise the rounds . There just isn't simply enough vehicles and crews to go around and it's just going to get worse and worse as cost cutting measures are brought in every year. Something Mark Turner and the countless manual workers have stated from day 1 of the city clean restructures. Just wait and see the state town center when Kurb side recycling is stopped and communal recycling bins are around the town.
How conservative councillor Dawn Barnett can blame the wet weather for the state of the Christmas collection fiasco is beyond belief. Obviously she has never spent any time with the crews. These guys work in extreme weather conditions, the heat, cold, and wet weather. It's not about blaming the crews but those who try to organasize them.
Perhaps The council should channel some of £16 million is makes annually out of parking charges into getting the basics of running and providing a service to the tax payer rather than making a profit out of them
Agree with half of your points but the council doesn't make a "profit" from parking as this revenue is used to pay for the statutory concessionary bus passes (pensioners and disabled residents) and car park and road maintenance.

Some of the current problems are due to the fact that overtime for refuse workers is no longer as rewarding as it used to be. Legally the council had no option to continue paying a special rate to one group of workers, and that's not a Green issue, it would have come home to roost for whoever was in administration now.
Concessionary buspasses are paid for by Central Government funding. Please stop misinforming thank you.
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pheasant pluckers son[/bold] wrote: The problem isn't the city clean crews themselves but those who are paid to organise the rounds . There just isn't simply enough vehicles and crews to go around and it's just going to get worse and worse as cost cutting measures are brought in every year. Something Mark Turner and the countless manual workers have stated from day 1 of the city clean restructures. Just wait and see the state town center when Kurb side recycling is stopped and communal recycling bins are around the town. How conservative councillor Dawn Barnett can blame the wet weather for the state of the Christmas collection fiasco is beyond belief. Obviously she has never spent any time with the crews. These guys work in extreme weather conditions, the heat, cold, and wet weather. It's not about blaming the crews but those who try to organasize them. Perhaps The council should channel some of £16 million is makes annually out of parking charges into getting the basics of running and providing a service to the tax payer rather than making a profit out of them[/p][/quote]Agree with half of your points but the council doesn't make a "profit" from parking as this revenue is used to pay for the statutory concessionary bus passes (pensioners and disabled residents) and car park and road maintenance. Some of the current problems are due to the fact that overtime for refuse workers is no longer as rewarding as it used to be. Legally the council had no option to continue paying a special rate to one group of workers, and that's not a Green issue, it would have come home to roost for whoever was in administration now.[/p][/quote]Concessionary buspasses are paid for by Central Government funding. Please stop misinforming thank you. mimseycal
  • Score: 13

7:47pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Eugenius says...

mimseycal wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
Pheasant pluckers son wrote:
The problem isn't the city clean crews themselves but those who are paid to organise the rounds . There just isn't simply enough vehicles and crews to go around and it's just going to get worse and worse as cost cutting measures are brought in every year. Something Mark Turner and the countless manual workers have stated from day 1 of the city clean restructures. Just wait and see the state town center when Kurb side recycling is stopped and communal recycling bins are around the town.
How conservative councillor Dawn Barnett can blame the wet weather for the state of the Christmas collection fiasco is beyond belief. Obviously she has never spent any time with the crews. These guys work in extreme weather conditions, the heat, cold, and wet weather. It's not about blaming the crews but those who try to organasize them.
Perhaps The council should channel some of £16 million is makes annually out of parking charges into getting the basics of running and providing a service to the tax payer rather than making a profit out of them
Agree with half of your points but the council doesn't make a "profit" from parking as this revenue is used to pay for the statutory concessionary bus passes (pensioners and disabled residents) and car park and road maintenance.

Some of the current problems are due to the fact that overtime for refuse workers is no longer as rewarding as it used to be. Legally the council had no option to continue paying a special rate to one group of workers, and that's not a Green issue, it would have come home to roost for whoever was in administration now.
Concessionary buspasses are paid for by Central Government funding. Please stop misinforming thank you.
No, Central Government changed this in 2011 and there is no longer central funding for concessionary bus passes.
[quote][p][bold]mimseycal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pheasant pluckers son[/bold] wrote: The problem isn't the city clean crews themselves but those who are paid to organise the rounds . There just isn't simply enough vehicles and crews to go around and it's just going to get worse and worse as cost cutting measures are brought in every year. Something Mark Turner and the countless manual workers have stated from day 1 of the city clean restructures. Just wait and see the state town center when Kurb side recycling is stopped and communal recycling bins are around the town. How conservative councillor Dawn Barnett can blame the wet weather for the state of the Christmas collection fiasco is beyond belief. Obviously she has never spent any time with the crews. These guys work in extreme weather conditions, the heat, cold, and wet weather. It's not about blaming the crews but those who try to organasize them. Perhaps The council should channel some of £16 million is makes annually out of parking charges into getting the basics of running and providing a service to the tax payer rather than making a profit out of them[/p][/quote]Agree with half of your points but the council doesn't make a "profit" from parking as this revenue is used to pay for the statutory concessionary bus passes (pensioners and disabled residents) and car park and road maintenance. Some of the current problems are due to the fact that overtime for refuse workers is no longer as rewarding as it used to be. Legally the council had no option to continue paying a special rate to one group of workers, and that's not a Green issue, it would have come home to roost for whoever was in administration now.[/p][/quote]Concessionary buspasses are paid for by Central Government funding. Please stop misinforming thank you.[/p][/quote]No, Central Government changed this in 2011 and there is no longer central funding for concessionary bus passes. Eugenius
  • Score: -13

7:54pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Falmer Wizard says...

Is there any truth in the allegation that since the recent changes to the rounds staff sickness has seen a large increase?
Is there any truth in the allegation that since the recent changes to the rounds staff sickness has seen a large increase? Falmer Wizard
  • Score: 1

8:18pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

RickH wrote:
Conservative councillor Dawn Barnett said: “It’s no good putting all the blame on Cityclean. They have done the best they can in the torrential weather.”

Absolutely 100% spot-on Cllr Barnett - culpability for ensuring services run properly lies with our elected represenatives - I beleive that includes you!
Hi Gaz Scott. Your posting under a plethora of names is absurd. Grow up

Laughable
[quote][p][bold]RickH[/bold] wrote: Conservative councillor Dawn Barnett said: “It’s no good putting all the blame on Cityclean. They have done the best they can in the torrential weather.” Absolutely 100% spot-on Cllr Barnett - culpability for ensuring services run properly lies with our elected represenatives - I beleive that includes you![/p][/quote]Hi Gaz Scott. Your posting under a plethora of names is absurd. Grow up Laughable Somethingsarejustwrong
  • Score: 6

8:26pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

All 9 of me wrote:
good, long may it continue, then the tw*ts here who just sit moaning behind their keyboards, might actually want to do something about it.
Ah Gaz Scott again

Tosser and waster

Laughable
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: good, long may it continue, then the tw*ts here who just sit moaning behind their keyboards, might actually want to do something about it.[/p][/quote]Ah Gaz Scott again Tosser and waster Laughable Somethingsarejustwrong
  • Score: 5

8:36pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

All 9 of me wrote:
honeyandlemon wrote:
They blame everything, they do an outdoor job so should not make excuses about weather....I suggest people take the recycling and dump outside the Town hall, it will soon get moved. All we hear are excuses after excuses....Just do the job or employ people who will do the job. There is no other industry that would allow workers to do such a terrible job without dismissing them.. Brighton is just an extremely dirty city, always has been whoever runs it. When you watch them collect they drop litter and then leave it strewn over the Streets, they dump recycle boxes where ever they want, they pick and chose what bags they are going to take, the street cleaners spend more time playing on their phones than doing a job. Get the City cleaned up. Sorry to the city cleaners that actually do a proper job, unfortunately you are in the minority.
Maybe you should do it then, and not just write here (dump your stuff at the town hall), gobbing off about how terrible the council are. Are you all total invertebrates ?
Oh Gaz. You really are a complete w4nker

Laughable
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]honeyandlemon[/bold] wrote: They blame everything, they do an outdoor job so should not make excuses about weather....I suggest people take the recycling and dump outside the Town hall, it will soon get moved. All we hear are excuses after excuses....Just do the job or employ people who will do the job. There is no other industry that would allow workers to do such a terrible job without dismissing them.. Brighton is just an extremely dirty city, always has been whoever runs it. When you watch them collect they drop litter and then leave it strewn over the Streets, they dump recycle boxes where ever they want, they pick and chose what bags they are going to take, the street cleaners spend more time playing on their phones than doing a job. Get the City cleaned up. Sorry to the city cleaners that actually do a proper job, unfortunately you are in the minority.[/p][/quote]Maybe you should do it then, and not just write here (dump your stuff at the town hall), gobbing off about how terrible the council are. Are you all total invertebrates ?[/p][/quote]Oh Gaz. You really are a complete w4nker Laughable Somethingsarejustwrong
  • Score: 5

11:24pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Natalieluckyno57 says...

Neither our rubbish or recycling has been collected since mid-December. There are 30 odd flats and it's absolutely disgusting in the bin area. Brighton and Hove council - you don't really care about Brighton and Hove and the people in it at all do you?
Neither our rubbish or recycling has been collected since mid-December. There are 30 odd flats and it's absolutely disgusting in the bin area. Brighton and Hove council - you don't really care about Brighton and Hove and the people in it at all do you? Natalieluckyno57
  • Score: 15

8:14am Sat 11 Jan 14

Balmy zephyrs says...

BN41_RMP wrote:
I don't really understand where Dawn Barnett's coming from with her comments, I live on Mile Oak Road and have had various problems with Cityclean over the past few months. I firstly e-mailed Cityclean (in October - it would seem the notification of new collections didn't come to my house!) to confirm my recycling dates, I was advised by the automated service to use the website as it would list the dates my recycling in particular was due to be collected. I used the website to be informed that I should 'use the communal bins in my area' I know that there aren't communal bins on Mile Oak Road so I resorted to e-mailing Cityclean after being on hold with them for nearly 20 minutes and not being able to get through. After a week and a half I hadn't had a response and my recycling was piling up, I again rang Cityclean and in actual fact got through to them fairly quickly. I was informed by a very helpful lady that my recycling was collected every two weeks on a Wednesday. Great - problem solved, you'd think! I then a few days later received an e-mail response to my initial e-mail enquiry stating that my collection would be on a Friday! This obviously led me to become quite confused! Rather than try and communicate with Cityclean further I left my recycling out on the Tuesday evening in case the collection was on the Wednesday (it wasn't) so rather than carry the black boxes back into the house absolutely soaked, I left it out for the Friday collection which thankfully was picked up. I was astounded to then receive an e-mail from Cityclean telling me that my recycling was not able to be picked up as it was in the incorrect place (It had been picked up!) I ignored this and a few days later received a letter, again from Cityclean implying that I left my recycling out 24/7 (I don't) and reminding me of my collection days and asking me not to leave my recycling out at all times as it is unsightly (i don't have the letter in front of me but that was the implication!) The letter also stated my next bin and recycling collection dates as a helpful reminder! Well, it would have been helpful if it had been correct, thankfully I have had my bins and recycling collected this year and I know a lot of people haven't but really, I don't believe Dawn Barnett can blame purely adverse weather for the lack of service, the weather has been particularly horrid but does that indicate that so many bins should yet again be left uncollected? This has been going on for months and whilst the people on the end of the phone are pleasant enough the whole thing is a joke and Cityclean need to buck their ideas up, I'm just glad I didn't get one of those 'oops, you didn't separate your recycling' stickers, I really would have blown a fuse then!
Just make a FORMAL complaint .. To the Chief Executive of the Council . . They have to respond and numbers of complaints are logged .
I have a pal who used to work for the council they highlight persistent complainers who get put on hold !
[quote][p][bold]BN41_RMP[/bold] wrote: I don't really understand where Dawn Barnett's coming from with her comments, I live on Mile Oak Road and have had various problems with Cityclean over the past few months. I firstly e-mailed Cityclean (in October - it would seem the notification of new collections didn't come to my house!) to confirm my recycling dates, I was advised by the automated service to use the website as it would list the dates my recycling in particular was due to be collected. I used the website to be informed that I should 'use the communal bins in my area' I know that there aren't communal bins on Mile Oak Road so I resorted to e-mailing Cityclean after being on hold with them for nearly 20 minutes and not being able to get through. After a week and a half I hadn't had a response and my recycling was piling up, I again rang Cityclean and in actual fact got through to them fairly quickly. I was informed by a very helpful lady that my recycling was collected every two weeks on a Wednesday. Great - problem solved, you'd think! I then a few days later received an e-mail response to my initial e-mail enquiry stating that my collection would be on a Friday! This obviously led me to become quite confused! Rather than try and communicate with Cityclean further I left my recycling out on the Tuesday evening in case the collection was on the Wednesday (it wasn't) so rather than carry the black boxes back into the house absolutely soaked, I left it out for the Friday collection which thankfully was picked up. I was astounded to then receive an e-mail from Cityclean telling me that my recycling was not able to be picked up as it was in the incorrect place (It had been picked up!) I ignored this and a few days later received a letter, again from Cityclean implying that I left my recycling out 24/7 (I don't) and reminding me of my collection days and asking me not to leave my recycling out at all times as it is unsightly (i don't have the letter in front of me but that was the implication!) The letter also stated my next bin and recycling collection dates as a helpful reminder! Well, it would have been helpful if it had been correct, thankfully I have had my bins and recycling collected this year and I know a lot of people haven't but really, I don't believe Dawn Barnett can blame purely adverse weather for the lack of service, the weather has been particularly horrid but does that indicate that so many bins should yet again be left uncollected? This has been going on for months and whilst the people on the end of the phone are pleasant enough the whole thing is a joke and Cityclean need to buck their ideas up, I'm just glad I didn't get one of those 'oops, you didn't separate your recycling' stickers, I really would have blown a fuse then![/p][/quote]Just make a FORMAL complaint .. To the Chief Executive of the Council . . They have to respond and numbers of complaints are logged . I have a pal who used to work for the council they highlight persistent complainers who get put on hold ! Balmy zephyrs
  • Score: 4

10:12am Mon 13 Jan 14

Richada says...

Our rubbish was finally cleared yesterday - Sunday lunchtime - by what appeared to be a bunch of foreign students.......

......or maybe they had been instructed by the Council not to speak English so as not to be held up by grateful residents thanking them for finally clearing our streets of 25 day old refuse.
Our rubbish was finally cleared yesterday - Sunday lunchtime - by what appeared to be a bunch of foreign students....... ......or maybe they had been instructed by the Council not to speak English so as not to be held up by grateful residents thanking them for finally clearing our streets of 25 day old refuse. Richada
  • Score: 0

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