Brighton and Hove scaffolding fees to soar by 9% - but parking prices frozen

Scaffolders are to be hit with a 9% rise in charges – after a last-ditch bid to lighten the load was voted out.

From April, those wanting to erect scaffolding will have to pay £60 for the first six weeks the structure is there – an increase from £55 (9.1%).

Firms will have to pay the same amount to keep it there for every eight weeks after following a similar rise.

Despite a last minute bid from Conservative councillors to reduce the rise to an inflationary 2.5%, the plan was voted through by other elected members.

The local authority said the increase was to bring it up to the same level of charging as neighbouring authorities.

Conservative councillor Graham Cox said: “I think it is an unnecessary tax on the very people we should be encouraging to get on with construction, building and renewing our beautiful buildings.”

In response, Green councillor Christopher Hawtree said: “I’m not sure any business will collapse because they cannot afford an extra £3.50 for scaffolding.”

The same report will also see dog breeding fees increase from £45 to £200 (a rise of 344%). However, parking prices will be largely frozen, with some even going down.

The charges form part of the council’s budget which will be discussed by all members in February.

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11:33am Sat 18 Jan 14

Eugenius says...

Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.
Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding. Eugenius

11:39am Sat 18 Jan 14

Gribbet says...

In other words a conservatory and loft conversion tax, no wonder the Conservatives are opposed.
In other words a conservatory and loft conversion tax, no wonder the Conservatives are opposed. Gribbet

12:38pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

I love the way the greens issue press releases with inaccurate information which then get withdrawn from the council press release online archive.
Naughty.
I love the way the greens issue press releases with inaccurate information which then get withdrawn from the council press release online archive. Naughty. Maxwell's Ghost

12:41pm Sat 18 Jan 14

HJarrs says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
I love the way the greens issue press releases with inaccurate information which then get withdrawn from the council press release online archive.
Naughty.
I hope you will be fully supporting Labour's forthcoming cuts to services for the elderly.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: I love the way the greens issue press releases with inaccurate information which then get withdrawn from the council press release online archive. Naughty.[/p][/quote]I hope you will be fully supporting Labour's forthcoming cuts to services for the elderly. HJarrs

1:31pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

I support any politician who takes a stand against a party which abuses the democratic process, which releases inaccurate information and then has to withdraw it, a party which proposes to spend £230,000 of public money on an excuse not to make a decision, which could be spent on front line services, a party whose mayor drove a freebie car to London while telling the locals to cycle, a party which re painted a cycle lane and then used public money to have a party in a park attended by 20 people, a party which installed a light up bus time table to keep its grubby voters in posh Preston park happy, a party which puts more importance on installing unused electric car charging point than people.
There are 20 percent of children in this city living in poverty HJarrs and you think it's ok to install a cycle lane so your non tax paying voting students can cycle past their homes in Moulsecoomb. Then you announce these kids will get nice homes in Preston Barracks with 550 parking spaces while you punish local people. It's over HJarrs, people aren't stupid.
The immorality and inhumanity of the green councillors is breathtaking.
It's time individual politicians no matter what their party stood up to this disgraceful waste and cruelty.
People first please and whether you are Tory, Lib Dem, independent or. Labour, you are an individual with a conscience and must stop this madness.
I support any politician who takes a stand against a party which abuses the democratic process, which releases inaccurate information and then has to withdraw it, a party which proposes to spend £230,000 of public money on an excuse not to make a decision, which could be spent on front line services, a party whose mayor drove a freebie car to London while telling the locals to cycle, a party which re painted a cycle lane and then used public money to have a party in a park attended by 20 people, a party which installed a light up bus time table to keep its grubby voters in posh Preston park happy, a party which puts more importance on installing unused electric car charging point than people. There are 20 percent of children in this city living in poverty HJarrs and you think it's ok to install a cycle lane so your non tax paying voting students can cycle past their homes in Moulsecoomb. Then you announce these kids will get nice homes in Preston Barracks with 550 parking spaces while you punish local people. It's over HJarrs, people aren't stupid. The immorality and inhumanity of the green councillors is breathtaking. It's time individual politicians no matter what their party stood up to this disgraceful waste and cruelty. People first please and whether you are Tory, Lib Dem, independent or. Labour, you are an individual with a conscience and must stop this madness. Maxwell's Ghost

1:38pm Sat 18 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

Good excuse for greedy landlords not to do maintenance on properties.Bit unfair to dogbreeders all two of them anyway I thought the greens were all for love of animals.Just like I thought the greens for all for green spaces such as bowling greens but they have filled several in at great cost planting wild flowers on them then fencing them off.
Good excuse for greedy landlords not to do maintenance on properties.Bit unfair to dogbreeders all two of them anyway I thought the greens were all for love of animals.Just like I thought the greens for all for green spaces such as bowling greens but they have filled several in at great cost planting wild flowers on them then fencing them off. clubrob6

1:52pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Goldenwight says...

Would it be cheaper, then, to erect a scaffolding 'garage' rather than pay for on-street parking? If so, we can look forward to ytraffic chaos!
Would it be cheaper, then, to erect a scaffolding 'garage' rather than pay for on-street parking? If so, we can look forward to ytraffic chaos! Goldenwight

2:34pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Bill in Hanover says...

They could scrap the scaffolding fee and recoup the money by fining the scaffolding companies for their incessant double parking, parking in bus stops, parking for long periods in narrow streets thereby blocking the road or anywhere else they want to to save them walking a few yards.
They could scrap the scaffolding fee and recoup the money by fining the scaffolding companies for their incessant double parking, parking in bus stops, parking for long periods in narrow streets thereby blocking the road or anywhere else they want to to save them walking a few yards. Bill in Hanover

2:49pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Jeff Leppard says...

Massive erections come at a price.
Massive erections come at a price. Jeff Leppard

4:03pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

Erection tax
Erection tax Brighton1000

4:04pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

erection tax
erection tax Brighton1000

4:12pm Sat 18 Jan 14

PorkBoat says...

Bill in Hanover wrote:
They could scrap the scaffolding fee and recoup the money by fining the scaffolding companies for their incessant double parking, parking in bus stops, parking for long periods in narrow streets thereby blocking the road or anywhere else they want to to save them walking a few yards.
Better still, why not get some "scaffolding dust", and sprinkle it around where work needs doing? Scaffolding will then magically rise silently from the ground overnight, doing away with the need for sweaty, grubby, foul mouthed oiks coming round and frightening the delicate residents of Brighton and Hove.
[quote][p][bold]Bill in Hanover[/bold] wrote: They could scrap the scaffolding fee and recoup the money by fining the scaffolding companies for their incessant double parking, parking in bus stops, parking for long periods in narrow streets thereby blocking the road or anywhere else they want to to save them walking a few yards.[/p][/quote]Better still, why not get some "scaffolding dust", and sprinkle it around where work needs doing? Scaffolding will then magically rise silently from the ground overnight, doing away with the need for sweaty, grubby, foul mouthed oiks coming round and frightening the delicate residents of Brighton and Hove. PorkBoat

4:50pm Sat 18 Jan 14

John Steed says...

this will not cost scaffolding companies one single penny, all charges are automaticaly passed on to the person who has contracted them, who in turn bills the client, thats the way the construction industry works, no difference fro the huge increase in land fill tax last year. up from £2.50/tonne to £65/tonne, skips jumped from £150/6m skip (excluding any road license/permit fees) to £265/6m skip excluding any fees, the client foots the bill, building materials have taken huge increases in cost over the last couple of years, the client/customer always foots the bill. the question is simple are the city council justified in rasing the costs for what is basically a revenue raising exercise. in my book they are not
this will not cost scaffolding companies one single penny, all charges are automaticaly passed on to the person who has contracted them, who in turn bills the client, thats the way the construction industry works, no difference fro the huge increase in land fill tax last year. up from £2.50/tonne to £65/tonne, skips jumped from £150/6m skip (excluding any road license/permit fees) to £265/6m skip excluding any fees, the client foots the bill, building materials have taken huge increases in cost over the last couple of years, the client/customer always foots the bill. the question is simple are the city council justified in rasing the costs for what is basically a revenue raising exercise. in my book they are not John Steed

5:46pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Fight_Back says...

HJarrs wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
I love the way the greens issue press releases with inaccurate information which then get withdrawn from the council press release online archive.
Naughty.
I hope you will be fully supporting Labour's forthcoming cuts to services for the elderly.
You do realise that there are other budgets that can be cut to avoid cutting services to the elderly ? Of course that wouldn't suit the Green agenda !
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: I love the way the greens issue press releases with inaccurate information which then get withdrawn from the council press release online archive. Naughty.[/p][/quote]I hope you will be fully supporting Labour's forthcoming cuts to services for the elderly.[/p][/quote]You do realise that there are other budgets that can be cut to avoid cutting services to the elderly ? Of course that wouldn't suit the Green agenda ! Fight_Back

5:56pm Sat 18 Jan 14

cynic_the says...

HJarrs wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
I love the way the greens issue press releases with inaccurate information which then get withdrawn from the council press release online archive.
Naughty.
I hope you will be fully supporting Labour's forthcoming cuts to services for the elderly.
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: I love the way the greens issue press releases with inaccurate information which then get withdrawn from the council press release online archive. Naughty.[/p][/quote]I hope you will be fully supporting Labour's forthcoming cuts to services for the elderly.[/p][/quote]DO NOT FEED THE TROLL cynic_the

11:37pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Hove Actually says...

Eugenius wrote:
Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.
Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council
That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.[/p][/quote]Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking Hove Actually

1:13am Sun 19 Jan 14

KarenT says...

Great to see dog breeding fees go up so significantly! Breeding domestic animals isn't something you should do to 'make money', but rather something you do because you are interested in improving the breed. The best you should hope for is to break even after looking after and feeding a litter of kittens or puppies for 2-3 months, not to mention vet's bills. It should help weed out all the drongos out there in it to just make a buck with no interest in animal welfare. I think we'll be seeing less puppy farms and idiots breeding Staffies to make a few bob on the estates! Anything that's gonna help Staffies regain their reputation as a breed that makes a wonderful pet and not just a status symbol for thickos is fine by me! And for that you gotta hit 'em where it hurts - their wallets! I suppose thieving will be on the up though as a result - how else could they possibly make a living given their somewhat limited abilities? I guess it's a pity they don't pay people just to snort and gob and scratch their crotches, eh?
Great to see dog breeding fees go up so significantly! Breeding domestic animals isn't something you should do to 'make money', but rather something you do because you are interested in improving the breed. The best you should hope for is to break even after looking after and feeding a litter of kittens or puppies for 2-3 months, not to mention vet's bills. It should help weed out all the drongos out there in it to just make a buck with no interest in animal welfare. I think we'll be seeing less puppy farms and idiots breeding Staffies to make a few bob on the estates! Anything that's gonna help Staffies regain their reputation as a breed that makes a wonderful pet and not just a status symbol for thickos is fine by me! And for that you gotta hit 'em where it hurts - their wallets! I suppose thieving will be on the up though as a result - how else could they possibly make a living given their somewhat limited abilities? I guess it's a pity they don't pay people just to snort and gob and scratch their crotches, eh? KarenT

1:32am Sun 19 Jan 14

Roundbill says...

Hove Actually wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.
Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council
That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking
I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?
[quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.[/p][/quote]Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking[/p][/quote]I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh? Roundbill

1:41am Sun 19 Jan 14

Gribbet says...

Roundbill wrote:
Hove Actually wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.
Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council
That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking
I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?
Comment thread for an article about scaffolding morphs into discussion about hating cyclists in 18 moves.
[quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.[/p][/quote]Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking[/p][/quote]I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?[/p][/quote]Comment thread for an article about scaffolding morphs into discussion about hating cyclists in 18 moves. Gribbet

6:26am Sun 19 Jan 14

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

Gribbet wrote:
Roundbill wrote:
Hove Actually wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.
Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council
That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking
I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?
Comment thread for an article about scaffolding morphs into discussion about hating cyclists in 18 moves.
Yes - we Greens have driven the residents to this, shows just how effective our relentless pursuit of ruining the city is.

HJ is delighted.
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.[/p][/quote]Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking[/p][/quote]I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?[/p][/quote]Comment thread for an article about scaffolding morphs into discussion about hating cyclists in 18 moves.[/p][/quote]Yes - we Greens have driven the residents to this, shows just how effective our relentless pursuit of ruining the city is. HJ is delighted. I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

6:50am Sun 19 Jan 14

Gribbet says...

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
Gribbet wrote:
Roundbill wrote:
Hove Actually wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.
Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council
That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking
I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?
Comment thread for an article about scaffolding morphs into discussion about hating cyclists in 18 moves.
Yes - we Greens have driven the residents to this, shows just how effective our relentless pursuit of ruining the city is.

HJ is delighted.
By residents do you mean residents of Brighton, or just the 'resident whingers' who comment on here?
[quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.[/p][/quote]Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking[/p][/quote]I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?[/p][/quote]Comment thread for an article about scaffolding morphs into discussion about hating cyclists in 18 moves.[/p][/quote]Yes - we Greens have driven the residents to this, shows just how effective our relentless pursuit of ruining the city is. HJ is delighted.[/p][/quote]By residents do you mean residents of Brighton, or just the 'resident whingers' who comment on here? Gribbet

12:28pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Ambo Guy says...

Gribbet wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
Gribbet wrote:
Roundbill wrote:
Hove Actually wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.
Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council
That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking
I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?
Comment thread for an article about scaffolding morphs into discussion about hating cyclists in 18 moves.
Yes - we Greens have driven the residents to this, shows just how effective our relentless pursuit of ruining the city is.

HJ is delighted.
By residents do you mean residents of Brighton, or just the 'resident whingers' who comment on here?
You're complete and utter disregard for anyone's view that doesn't for in with yours shows the arrogance and contempt that the Greens hold the voters in. I wonder if you'll be complaining of 'resident whingers' when you get thrown out of power.
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.[/p][/quote]Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking[/p][/quote]I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?[/p][/quote]Comment thread for an article about scaffolding morphs into discussion about hating cyclists in 18 moves.[/p][/quote]Yes - we Greens have driven the residents to this, shows just how effective our relentless pursuit of ruining the city is. HJ is delighted.[/p][/quote]By residents do you mean residents of Brighton, or just the 'resident whingers' who comment on here?[/p][/quote]You're complete and utter disregard for anyone's view that doesn't for in with yours shows the arrogance and contempt that the Greens hold the voters in. I wonder if you'll be complaining of 'resident whingers' when you get thrown out of power. Ambo Guy

1:49pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Gribbet says...

Ambo Guy wrote:
Gribbet wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
Gribbet wrote:
Roundbill wrote:
Hove Actually wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.
Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council
That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking
I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?
Comment thread for an article about scaffolding morphs into discussion about hating cyclists in 18 moves.
Yes - we Greens have driven the residents to this, shows just how effective our relentless pursuit of ruining the city is.

HJ is delighted.
By residents do you mean residents of Brighton, or just the 'resident whingers' who comment on here?
You're complete and utter disregard for anyone's view that doesn't for in with yours shows the arrogance and contempt that the Greens hold the voters in. I wonder if you'll be complaining of 'resident whingers' when you get thrown out of power.
I'm not actually in power or even a Green Party member.

I do cycle a lot along Brighton's roads though (that people on here regularly say I don't belong on) and the many cycle lanes (that people regularly say shouldn't be there). There are a lot of oafish, boorish commenters on here that need challenging.

If or when the Greens get voted out, the 'resident whingers' on here will just whinge in exactly the same way about the same things, except they'll blame it all on the Tories or Labour instead. They'll also probably forget the Greens were ever in power and they'll keep saying things like "roll on 2019, I can't wait till the _____ Party get voted out!" on every thread.
[quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.[/p][/quote]Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking[/p][/quote]I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?[/p][/quote]Comment thread for an article about scaffolding morphs into discussion about hating cyclists in 18 moves.[/p][/quote]Yes - we Greens have driven the residents to this, shows just how effective our relentless pursuit of ruining the city is. HJ is delighted.[/p][/quote]By residents do you mean residents of Brighton, or just the 'resident whingers' who comment on here?[/p][/quote]You're complete and utter disregard for anyone's view that doesn't for in with yours shows the arrogance and contempt that the Greens hold the voters in. I wonder if you'll be complaining of 'resident whingers' when you get thrown out of power.[/p][/quote]I'm not actually in power or even a Green Party member. I do cycle a lot along Brighton's roads though (that people on here regularly say I don't belong on) and the many cycle lanes (that people regularly say shouldn't be there). There are a lot of oafish, boorish commenters on here that need challenging. If or when the Greens get voted out, the 'resident whingers' on here will just whinge in exactly the same way about the same things, except they'll blame it all on the Tories or Labour instead. They'll also probably forget the Greens were ever in power and they'll keep saying things like "roll on 2019, I can't wait till the _____ Party get voted out!" on every thread. Gribbet

2:46pm Sun 19 Jan 14

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

Gribbet wrote:
Ambo Guy wrote:
Gribbet wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
Gribbet wrote:
Roundbill wrote:
Hove Actually wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.
Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council
That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking
I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?
Comment thread for an article about scaffolding morphs into discussion about hating cyclists in 18 moves.
Yes - we Greens have driven the residents to this, shows just how effective our relentless pursuit of ruining the city is.

HJ is delighted.
By residents do you mean residents of Brighton, or just the 'resident whingers' who comment on here?
You're complete and utter disregard for anyone's view that doesn't for in with yours shows the arrogance and contempt that the Greens hold the voters in. I wonder if you'll be complaining of 'resident whingers' when you get thrown out of power.
I'm not actually in power or even a Green Party member.

I do cycle a lot along Brighton's roads though (that people on here regularly say I don't belong on) and the many cycle lanes (that people regularly say shouldn't be there). There are a lot of oafish, boorish commenters on here that need challenging.

If or when the Greens get voted out, the 'resident whingers' on here will just whinge in exactly the same way about the same things, except they'll blame it all on the Tories or Labour instead. They'll also probably forget the Greens were ever in power and they'll keep saying things like "roll on 2019, I can't wait till the _____ Party get voted out!" on every thread.
HJ says we are going to get a drubbing in the election, but you are one and the same.

This Green spin is so confusing, I just wish everyone would tell the truth.
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.[/p][/quote]Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking[/p][/quote]I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?[/p][/quote]Comment thread for an article about scaffolding morphs into discussion about hating cyclists in 18 moves.[/p][/quote]Yes - we Greens have driven the residents to this, shows just how effective our relentless pursuit of ruining the city is. HJ is delighted.[/p][/quote]By residents do you mean residents of Brighton, or just the 'resident whingers' who comment on here?[/p][/quote]You're complete and utter disregard for anyone's view that doesn't for in with yours shows the arrogance and contempt that the Greens hold the voters in. I wonder if you'll be complaining of 'resident whingers' when you get thrown out of power.[/p][/quote]I'm not actually in power or even a Green Party member. I do cycle a lot along Brighton's roads though (that people on here regularly say I don't belong on) and the many cycle lanes (that people regularly say shouldn't be there). There are a lot of oafish, boorish commenters on here that need challenging. If or when the Greens get voted out, the 'resident whingers' on here will just whinge in exactly the same way about the same things, except they'll blame it all on the Tories or Labour instead. They'll also probably forget the Greens were ever in power and they'll keep saying things like "roll on 2019, I can't wait till the _____ Party get voted out!" on every thread.[/p][/quote]HJ says we are going to get a drubbing in the election, but you are one and the same. This Green spin is so confusing, I just wish everyone would tell the truth. I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

8:00pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Sussex jim says...

Bill in Hanover wrote:
They could scrap the scaffolding fee and recoup the money by fining the scaffolding companies for their incessant double parking, parking in bus stops, parking for long periods in narrow streets thereby blocking the road or anywhere else they want to to save them walking a few yards.
Bill, why don't you try a stint of humping scaffolding from one street to the next?
[quote][p][bold]Bill in Hanover[/bold] wrote: They could scrap the scaffolding fee and recoup the money by fining the scaffolding companies for their incessant double parking, parking in bus stops, parking for long periods in narrow streets thereby blocking the road or anywhere else they want to to save them walking a few yards.[/p][/quote]Bill, why don't you try a stint of humping scaffolding from one street to the next? Sussex jim

4:59pm Mon 20 Jan 14

brighton bluenose says...

Roundbill wrote:
Hove Actually wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.
Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council
That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking
I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?
Considering 98% of the cycle path along the seafront is adjacent to the coast road and nowhere near the beach I would respectfully suggest you are a lying ****!!
[quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: Ha! Love the way the Argus have buried the parking charge freeze in a story about £5 more to put up scaffolding.[/p][/quote]Even Kitcrap and HJarrs have seen sense and know that people have had enough of this car hating council That leaves only you to realise that the Brighton Motorists is starting to vote by avoiding our city as a shopping / leisure destination due to the lack of affordable parking[/p][/quote]I noticed when I was walking along the seafront near Hove lawns that the council's contractors have cleared the pebbles from the cycle lanes, but not from the on-street, "residents only" CPZ along King's Esplanade. Priorities. eh?[/p][/quote]Considering 98% of the cycle path along the seafront is adjacent to the coast road and nowhere near the beach I would respectfully suggest you are a lying ****!! brighton bluenose

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