Vote of no confidence in leadership will be ‘utterly meaningless’ says Jason Kitcat

The Argus: Vote of no confidence in leadership will be ‘utterly meaningless’ says Jason Kitcat Vote of no confidence in leadership will be ‘utterly meaningless’ says Jason Kitcat

Council leader Jason Kitcat has described moves by his political rivals to issue a vote of no confidence against his administration as “utterly meaningless”.

Brighton and Hove City councillors seem set to vote through their disapproval of the current administration at what is expected to be a heated council meeting tonight.

Despite the likelihood that a motion of no confidence will be passed against the current administration, no one is writing Coun Kitcat’s political obituary as the council leader seems certain to stay on having already indicated he will not resign.


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The vote of no confidence was launched by the Labour group in direct response to the Greens’ proposals to raise council tax by 4.75%.

Labour leader Warren Morgan said that Coun Kitcat was a “magician” who was deploying tactics he has never seen in 25 years of local government.

He told The Argus: “Because of what people are saying on the doorstep and in The Argus, we are doing what we are able to do under the rules of the council and we hope that Jason Kitcat will do the right thing.

“In 25 years of being in politics I have never seen anything like this. The Greens have decided what their cuts are going to be, put them forward in their own budget, then said they can’t agree to these cuts and left it to the opposition parties and the public to vote these through by supporting their tax rise.”

Coun Kitcat said: “As all Labour councillors know, Councillor Morgan’s motion is an utterly meaningless gesture.

“Labour ignored several similar successful motions during their time in office, so it will be interesting to see what their arguments are.

“If Councillor Morgan is so keen to work with the Tories, they together do have the power to form an administration whenever they want to.”

Coun Theobald said although the motion carried no legal weight, the Greens should heed the message behind it.

He said: “The Labour party put this motion down and we are aware that legally it means nothing unless the Greens choose from their positions themselves.

“What it does show is the views of councillors on the current administration.

“The Green administration should take notice of the views of the residents and the councillors as representatives of these residents.”

Coun Theobald also conceded that the prospect of a referendum remained extremely unlikely as the Greens would struggle to find support for their 4.75% rise.

He said: “We are the one party who have been consistent and said what we think and that is we want the council tax frozen and we would seek to amend any proposed council tax.”

The council meeting will be held tonight from 4.30pm in Hove Town Hall.

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12:11pm Thu 30 Jan 14

The Prophet of Doom says...

This man is an unbelievably arrogant oaf who will be the first against the wall.
This man is an unbelievably arrogant oaf who will be the first against the wall. The Prophet of Doom

12:11pm Thu 30 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

What a crass little pr1ck. GET OUT ( and take your plastic stripper with you)
What a crass little pr1ck. GET OUT ( and take your plastic stripper with you) All 9 of me

12:24pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Goldenwight says...

Nice to know that the Green administration care so little for what the people who vote for them and what their fellow councillors think.

Might I suggest that we all respond to the increased Council Tax demands by returning them with a covering letter along the lines of:

"Thank you for your Tax Demand. However, I feel that it is totally meaningless and am therefore returning it (unopened and unpaid) to you for your action."

A few thousand letters like that might change his opinion.
Nice to know that the Green administration care so little for what the people who vote for them and what their fellow councillors think. Might I suggest that we all respond to the increased Council Tax demands by returning them with a covering letter along the lines of: "Thank you for your Tax Demand. However, I feel that it is totally meaningless and am therefore returning it (unopened and unpaid) to you for your action." A few thousand letters like that might change his opinion. Goldenwight

12:41pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Crystal Ball says...

Witness a person who has a vacuous but steadfast complete and utter refusal to see, hear and accept what is going on around them.

A white stick and hearing aid ordered by any chance?
Witness a person who has a vacuous but steadfast complete and utter refusal to see, hear and accept what is going on around them. A white stick and hearing aid ordered by any chance? Crystal Ball

12:53pm Thu 30 Jan 14

pwlr1966 says...

Deluded fool
Deluded fool pwlr1966

12:55pm Thu 30 Jan 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

The arrogance of the man is breathtaking! Hoping that this makes the headlines in the nationals, so everyone all over the country can see what happens when you elect the Green Party.
The arrogance of the man is breathtaking! Hoping that this makes the headlines in the nationals, so everyone all over the country can see what happens when you elect the Green Party. thevoiceoftruth

1:04pm Thu 30 Jan 14

RottingdeanRant says...

No - it will mean that you should go even if you don’t believe it! If you think you are doing such a good job then instead of a referendum lets have a vote for a new council!
No - it will mean that you should go even if you don’t believe it! If you think you are doing such a good job then instead of a referendum lets have a vote for a new council! RottingdeanRant

1:16pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Indigatio says...

Meaningless. What is this man thinking. Of course it will not be meaningless. What it might be is ineffective as Kitkat and Co will not do the honourable thing and resign if the vote is passed. However, it will have considerable meaning.
Meaningless. What is this man thinking. Of course it will not be meaningless. What it might be is ineffective as Kitkat and Co will not do the honourable thing and resign if the vote is passed. However, it will have considerable meaning. Indigatio

1:30pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Fight_Back says...

So let me get this right - Kitcat claims the fair and democratic thing to do regards a council tax rise is to put it to the vote yet he won't respect the results of a vote on his own administration ? Just shows the contempt he and his fellow Greens really have for the democratic process.

Greens - anti-democracy
Greens - anti-tax payers
Greens - anti-car

Vote Green - get COMMUNISTS
So let me get this right - Kitcat claims the fair and democratic thing to do regards a council tax rise is to put it to the vote yet he won't respect the results of a vote on his own administration ? Just shows the contempt he and his fellow Greens really have for the democratic process. Greens - anti-democracy Greens - anti-tax payers Greens - anti-car Vote Green - get COMMUNISTS Fight_Back

1:33pm Thu 30 Jan 14

BrighterStar says...

I hate to say it but on this occasion Mr Kitkat is correct - this whole process is a meaningless PR stunt and acts as a smokescreen to cover up the fact that Labour do not have any clear policies on anything. If the Labour and Tory party groups were really so concerned about the privatisation of care, youth unemployement, high rents and refuse collections etc etc they could work together to take control of the Authority. But that involves taking responsibility and acting like adults; much easier to play games.
I hate to say it but on this occasion Mr Kitkat is correct - this whole process is a meaningless PR stunt and acts as a smokescreen to cover up the fact that Labour do not have any clear policies on anything. If the Labour and Tory party groups were really so concerned about the privatisation of care, youth unemployement, high rents and refuse collections etc etc they could work together to take control of the Authority. But that involves taking responsibility and acting like adults; much easier to play games. BrighterStar

1:48pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Vigilia says...

Meaningless to a person of Kitcat's moral, ethical and professional standards and self esteem.
Simply devastating and utterly humiliating to any other person of integrity, humility and civic conscientiousness.
Meaningless to a person of Kitcat's moral, ethical and professional standards and self esteem. Simply devastating and utterly humiliating to any other person of integrity, humility and civic conscientiousness. Vigilia

2:05pm Thu 30 Jan 14

kopite_rob says...

Meaningless gesture.
Pointless leader.
Useless council.
Meaningless gesture. Pointless leader. Useless council. kopite_rob

3:08pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Dealing with idiots says...

This will be a real test of the council's Chief Executive. Following a no confidence vote it is within her remit to ask another elected councilor to form a caretaker administration. My guess is that Mary Mears will be asked and Warren will jump at the chance to join in. So hopefully no bin strike and the plans for the i360 will be used as they were originally intended, as a substitute for Izal medicated toilet paper.

Kitty, Kitty, Kitty out out out!
This will be a real test of the council's Chief Executive. Following a no confidence vote it is within her remit to ask another elected councilor to form a caretaker administration. My guess is that Mary Mears will be asked and Warren will jump at the chance to join in. So hopefully no bin strike and the plans for the i360 will be used as they were originally intended, as a substitute for Izal medicated toilet paper. Kitty, Kitty, Kitty out out out! Dealing with idiots

3:48pm Thu 30 Jan 14

brightonline says...

Did anyone spot Kitkat and his wife handing out leaflets to passersby in Gardner St last Saturday afternoon?

No, thought not, his collar was up and he had a large cap covering most of his features - no one seemed to know who he was and no one was taking any of his leaflets. His wife was also there and was as equally unsuccessful in engaging with anyone passing by.
Did anyone spot Kitkat and his wife handing out leaflets to passersby in Gardner St last Saturday afternoon? No, thought not, his collar was up and he had a large cap covering most of his features - no one seemed to know who he was and no one was taking any of his leaflets. His wife was also there and was as equally unsuccessful in engaging with anyone passing by. brightonline

3:55pm Thu 30 Jan 14

The Prophet of Doom says...

brightonline wrote:
Did anyone spot Kitkat and his wife handing out leaflets to passersby in Gardner St last Saturday afternoon?

No, thought not, his collar was up and he had a large cap covering most of his features - no one seemed to know who he was and no one was taking any of his leaflets. His wife was also there and was as equally unsuccessful in engaging with anyone passing by.
Perhaps when the time comes to leave he will be found hiding in a sewer a la Saddam Hussein?
[quote][p][bold]brightonline[/bold] wrote: Did anyone spot Kitkat and his wife handing out leaflets to passersby in Gardner St last Saturday afternoon? No, thought not, his collar was up and he had a large cap covering most of his features - no one seemed to know who he was and no one was taking any of his leaflets. His wife was also there and was as equally unsuccessful in engaging with anyone passing by.[/p][/quote]Perhaps when the time comes to leave he will be found hiding in a sewer a la Saddam Hussein? The Prophet of Doom

4:22pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Matt@onbeach says...

brightonline wrote:
Did anyone spot Kitkat and his wife handing out leaflets to passersby in Gardner St last Saturday afternoon?

No, thought not, his collar was up and he had a large cap covering most of his features - no one seemed to know who he was and no one was taking any of his leaflets. His wife was also there and was as equally unsuccessful in engaging with anyone passing by.
That was part of the Young Greens , day of action in support of the tax which was an epic fail. The Facebook group invited circa 900 doughnuts sorry supporters. In the end they got 20, including kit kat and Lucas. So it's seems even Green supporters don,t support this unjust greedy tax rise.
[quote][p][bold]brightonline[/bold] wrote: Did anyone spot Kitkat and his wife handing out leaflets to passersby in Gardner St last Saturday afternoon? No, thought not, his collar was up and he had a large cap covering most of his features - no one seemed to know who he was and no one was taking any of his leaflets. His wife was also there and was as equally unsuccessful in engaging with anyone passing by.[/p][/quote]That was part of the Young Greens , day of action in support of the tax which was an epic fail. The Facebook group invited circa 900 doughnuts sorry supporters. In the end they got 20, including kit kat and Lucas. So it's seems even Green supporters don,t support this unjust greedy tax rise. Matt@onbeach

4:30pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Richada says...

brightonline wrote:
Did anyone spot Kitkat and his wife handing out leaflets to passersby in Gardner St last Saturday afternoon?

No, thought not, his collar was up and he had a large cap covering most of his features - no one seemed to know who he was and no one was taking any of his leaflets. His wife was also there and was as equally unsuccessful in engaging with anyone passing by.
Oh dear, poor Mr & Mrs Kitcat, why was nobody taking their leaflets?

Were they "utterly meaningless" by any chance?
[quote][p][bold]brightonline[/bold] wrote: Did anyone spot Kitkat and his wife handing out leaflets to passersby in Gardner St last Saturday afternoon? No, thought not, his collar was up and he had a large cap covering most of his features - no one seemed to know who he was and no one was taking any of his leaflets. His wife was also there and was as equally unsuccessful in engaging with anyone passing by.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, poor Mr & Mrs Kitcat, why was nobody taking their leaflets? Were they "utterly meaningless" by any chance? Richada

5:50pm Thu 30 Jan 14

the red head says...

I believe I am also utterly meaningless in the green councils eyes. I wish I was so meaningless that I didn't have to pay their wages to put in place horrendous, floundering, ill conceived, unworkable, unenforceable restrictions on this city's residents, muddle their way through a bin crisis and fail miserably, and then still have the audacity to say that any opposing voices are utterly meaningless.
I believe they take my money for their wages through deceipt. Surely if they deserved that money, our city would be working better and not having to pay advisers, consultants and focus group reports all the time.
This is Brighton. It's time to get it back for the residents who made it great. Kitkat and his ilk have ruined this city's reputation and ruined the morale of a great proportion of its residents. How meaningless is that, kitkat?
Oh I forgot.... You can't hear me because you have your fingers in yr ears.
I believe I am also utterly meaningless in the green councils eyes. I wish I was so meaningless that I didn't have to pay their wages to put in place horrendous, floundering, ill conceived, unworkable, unenforceable restrictions on this city's residents, muddle their way through a bin crisis and fail miserably, and then still have the audacity to say that any opposing voices are utterly meaningless. I believe they take my money for their wages through deceipt. Surely if they deserved that money, our city would be working better and not having to pay advisers, consultants and focus group reports all the time. This is Brighton. It's time to get it back for the residents who made it great. Kitkat and his ilk have ruined this city's reputation and ruined the morale of a great proportion of its residents. How meaningless is that, kitkat? Oh I forgot.... You can't hear me because you have your fingers in yr ears. the red head

6:37pm Thu 30 Jan 14

We are the 99% says...

Your comment Mr Kitkat, shows why you and your wretched little Party have got to go!
How contemptible you are of the public!
You are proof positive, of the saying;

"Power corrupts! Absolute power, corrupts absolutely!"

You Mr Kitkat, and your Green Party, could have taken the public with you on a journey of peace, happiness and enlightenment!
What the Greens chose, was to become bullies and tyrants, and have become just like all the other political Parties, and have forgotten, that YOU ARE MEANT to be our elected representatives! Yet (like the rotten governments we elect), you've behave like tyrants and dictators!
MP's and councillors, need to be reminded, that we pay your wages!
You represent us!
That means - that YOU DO WHAT WE WANT!
NOT WE BOW DOWN TO YOUR WILL AND BULLYING!
Your Green Party, has just become another nasty, bullying little political Party that the public have to deal with now!
So thanks a lot!
Your comment Mr Kitkat, shows why you and your wretched little Party have got to go! How contemptible you are of the public! You are proof positive, of the saying; "Power corrupts! Absolute power, corrupts absolutely!" You Mr Kitkat, and your Green Party, could have taken the public with you on a journey of peace, happiness and enlightenment! What the Greens chose, was to become bullies and tyrants, and have become just like all the other political Parties, and have forgotten, that YOU ARE MEANT to be our elected representatives! Yet (like the rotten governments we elect), you've behave like tyrants and dictators! MP's and councillors, need to be reminded, that we pay your wages! You represent us! That means - that YOU DO WHAT WE WANT! NOT WE BOW DOWN TO YOUR WILL AND BULLYING! Your Green Party, has just become another nasty, bullying little political Party that the public have to deal with now! So thanks a lot! We are the 99%

6:49pm Thu 30 Jan 14

jimpy762 says...

How do we get rid of these people?
How do we get rid of these people? jimpy762

7:03pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Richada says...

jimpy762 wrote:
How do we get rid of these people?
Well, he was proven right - we've just watched, on livecast, the debate and vote.

Even though carried by a big majority, the vote of no confidence is not going to rid us of them

Meaningless, utterly meaningless.

My worst impressions of local government all confirmed, Labour and (particularly) Conservative councillors scoring points off of one another - largerly letting the admninistration get away with it.

A dark, dark night for Brighton and Hove residents who remain saddled with the worst council administration in living memory.

Having seen what I have this evening, I begin to understand how it all gets so nasty and personal here.

Come the day we will oust them and comprehensively so - sadly though, there appears to be little more honour amongst those who are to come.
[quote][p][bold]jimpy762[/bold] wrote: How do we get rid of these people?[/p][/quote]Well, he was proven right - we've just watched, on livecast, the debate and vote. Even though carried by a big majority, the vote of no confidence is not going to rid us of them Meaningless, utterly meaningless. My worst impressions of local government all confirmed, Labour and (particularly) Conservative councillors scoring points off of one another - largerly letting the admninistration get away with it. A dark, dark night for Brighton and Hove residents who remain saddled with the worst council administration in living memory. Having seen what I have this evening, I begin to understand how it all gets so nasty and personal here. Come the day we will oust them and comprehensively so - sadly though, there appears to be little more honour amongst those who are to come. Richada

8:52pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Roundbill says...

Mister Kitcat, I know you monitor Argus articles about your party, so you'll have read my question underneath a story yesterday - although you still haven't responded. I'm sure you're an honourable man. As a matter of honour, when will you resign? Or are we to interpret your silence as an admission that you AREN'T an honourable man?
Mister Kitcat, I know you monitor Argus articles about your party, so you'll have read my question underneath a story yesterday - although you still haven't responded. I'm sure you're an honourable man. As a matter of honour, when will you resign? Or are we to interpret your silence as an admission that you AREN'T an honourable man? Roundbill

9:07pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Pebbles says...

Mr Kitcat... the motion was certainly not 'meaningless' because this puts you in the frame. Agreed that nothing will come of it... but hey...you cab add that to your political notches.... that you/your party .. had a vote of no confidence.

You may not like.. beacuse it obviously has got your goat... but dont worry Mr K... if the majority of the good Brighton & Hove citizens have their way next year you will never have to worry about a vote of no confidence going against you every again :)
Mr Kitcat... the motion was certainly not 'meaningless' because this puts you in the frame. Agreed that nothing will come of it... but hey...you cab add that to your political notches.... that you/your party .. had a vote of no confidence. You may not like.. beacuse it obviously has got your goat... but dont worry Mr K... if the majority of the good Brighton & Hove citizens have their way next year you will never have to worry about a vote of no confidence going against you every again :) Pebbles

11:20pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Dealing with idiots says...

A friend of mine just had a reasoned comment from Bill ( mine's a double ) Randal. 'You are stupid because you do not agree with me' Bill really should take more water with it especially with his florid visage. Interestingly though he did also let slip that he would not be standing again at the next election. Trebles all round an bon voyage Billkins.
A friend of mine just had a reasoned comment from Bill ( mine's a double ) Randal. 'You are stupid because you do not agree with me' Bill really should take more water with it especially with his florid visage. Interestingly though he did also let slip that he would not be standing again at the next election. Trebles all round an bon voyage Billkins. Dealing with idiots

11:48pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

I wish Mr Randall would tell us why he drove his freebie mayoral car to London and Bexhill?
I wish Mr Randall would tell us why he drove his freebie mayoral car to London and Bexhill? Maxwell's Ghost

11:42am Fri 31 Jan 14

Boloney-marshal says...

I'm sick of having to look at Kitkat's smug self-satisfied face when I log into the Argus website. His name sounds like a pet name for a kitten.
I'm sick of having to look at Kitkat's smug self-satisfied face when I log into the Argus website. His name sounds like a pet name for a kitten. Boloney-marshal

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