The ArgusUnion bosses warn of "carnage" if Brighton and Hove City Council budget not set (From The Argus)

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Union bosses warn of "carnage" if Brighton and Hove City Council budget not set

The Argus: Union bosses warn of "carnage" if Brighton and Hove City Council budget not set Union bosses warn of "carnage" if Brighton and Hove City Council budget not set

Union bosses have warned that the failure of Brighton and Hove’s political parties to set a budget in the next few days could lead to “carnage”.

The GMB have warned that if the city’s three political parties fail to compromise on a budget it could lead to Local Government minister Eric Pickles stepping in and ordering the council to run just statutory services.

The unions warn this could lead to large job losses and have called on councillors to find a common way.

The city council has until March 11 to meet it legal obligations and set a balanced budget with crunch talks held tonight at 6pm.

Council officers have briefed councillors on all sides of their responsibilities and the consequences of not setting a budget.

Branch secretary Mark Turner said: “I understand that people have their principles but sometimes those principles have to be set aside, the alternative is much worse.

“If they are unable to set that budget we could see the loss of jobs and services, the impact on the public would be immense.

“The Government could step in and say we will only provide statutory services and that would lead to job losses.

“They would love the opportunity to do that 12 months before an election.”

Council leader Jason Kitcat accused his Tory colleagues of wanting to see Local Government minister Eric Pickles come to Brighton and Hove and “further slash funding for council services”.

To follow tonight’s meeting via our live blog visit www.theargus.co.uk and see tomorrow’s paper for all the information from the crunch talks.

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11:00am Wed 5 Mar 14

rayellerton says...

So they are worried about the fact that Pickles will order the council to prioritise statutory services... will that be such a bad thing? At least we will get our rubbish collected and money wont be wasted on 'communications' 'democratic services' 'climate change' and all the other vague departments that do not contribute towards our quality of life as residents. I have nothing personal against the people who work in those sort of jobs, but if i were setting policy in no way would they have been given those 'jobs' in the first place...
So they are worried about the fact that Pickles will order the council to prioritise statutory services... will that be such a bad thing? At least we will get our rubbish collected and money wont be wasted on 'communications' 'democratic services' 'climate change' and all the other vague departments that do not contribute towards our quality of life as residents. I have nothing personal against the people who work in those sort of jobs, but if i were setting policy in no way would they have been given those 'jobs' in the first place... rayellerton
  • Score: 22

11:28am Wed 5 Mar 14

Eugenius says...

rayellerton wrote:
So they are worried about the fact that Pickles will order the council to prioritise statutory services... will that be such a bad thing? At least we will get our rubbish collected and money wont be wasted on 'communications' 'democratic services' 'climate change' and all the other vague departments that do not contribute towards our quality of life as residents. I have nothing personal against the people who work in those sort of jobs, but if i were setting policy in no way would they have been given those 'jobs' in the first place...
Those budgets you mention have already been slashed - Communications budget is now half what it was under the previous Labour council.

With a 2‰ tax rise the council has to find savings of £23m for the third year running, it's not enough to keep up with inflation nor the increasing cost of social care due to an aging population.
[quote][p][bold]rayellerton[/bold] wrote: So they are worried about the fact that Pickles will order the council to prioritise statutory services... will that be such a bad thing? At least we will get our rubbish collected and money wont be wasted on 'communications' 'democratic services' 'climate change' and all the other vague departments that do not contribute towards our quality of life as residents. I have nothing personal against the people who work in those sort of jobs, but if i were setting policy in no way would they have been given those 'jobs' in the first place...[/p][/quote]Those budgets you mention have already been slashed - Communications budget is now half what it was under the previous Labour council. With a 2‰ tax rise the council has to find savings of £23m for the third year running, it's not enough to keep up with inflation nor the increasing cost of social care due to an aging population. Eugenius
  • Score: -28

12:12pm Wed 5 Mar 14

billy goat-gruff says...

rayellerton wrote:
So they are worried about the fact that Pickles will order the council to prioritise statutory services... will that be such a bad thing? At least we will get our rubbish collected and money wont be wasted on 'communications' 'democratic services' 'climate change' and all the other vague departments that do not contribute towards our quality of life as residents. I have nothing personal against the people who work in those sort of jobs, but if i were setting policy in no way would they have been given those 'jobs' in the first place...
What an optimist you are! It's only the tories who think that you can 'improve' services by slashing jobs and funding! Of course, nobody likes paying taxes, but if we want to take care of the old and infirm, that's what we have to do.
[quote][p][bold]rayellerton[/bold] wrote: So they are worried about the fact that Pickles will order the council to prioritise statutory services... will that be such a bad thing? At least we will get our rubbish collected and money wont be wasted on 'communications' 'democratic services' 'climate change' and all the other vague departments that do not contribute towards our quality of life as residents. I have nothing personal against the people who work in those sort of jobs, but if i were setting policy in no way would they have been given those 'jobs' in the first place...[/p][/quote]What an optimist you are! It's only the tories who think that you can 'improve' services by slashing jobs and funding! Of course, nobody likes paying taxes, but if we want to take care of the old and infirm, that's what we have to do. billy goat-gruff
  • Score: -10

12:36pm Wed 5 Mar 14

the red head says...

Watch all the green trolls roll over this one. Bring pickles in. We need help to overrule this administration. They are out of control and need stopping by whatever means necessary.
Watch all the green trolls roll over this one. Bring pickles in. We need help to overrule this administration. They are out of control and need stopping by whatever means necessary. the red head
  • Score: 18

12:53pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Automaton says...

Eugenius wrote:
rayellerton wrote:
So they are worried about the fact that Pickles will order the council to prioritise statutory services... will that be such a bad thing? At least we will get our rubbish collected and money wont be wasted on 'communications' 'democratic services' 'climate change' and all the other vague departments that do not contribute towards our quality of life as residents. I have nothing personal against the people who work in those sort of jobs, but if i were setting policy in no way would they have been given those 'jobs' in the first place...
Those budgets you mention have already been slashed - Communications budget is now half what it was under the previous Labour council.

With a 2‰ tax rise the council has to find savings of £23m for the third year running, it's not enough to keep up with inflation nor the increasing cost of social care due to an aging population.
The Green Party need to compromise on the council tax. Even if labour vote with them we still have to have a referendum. This will drag out uncertainty even further and the rise will probably not be voted for. Then back to square one having wasted loads of time and money.
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayellerton[/bold] wrote: So they are worried about the fact that Pickles will order the council to prioritise statutory services... will that be such a bad thing? At least we will get our rubbish collected and money wont be wasted on 'communications' 'democratic services' 'climate change' and all the other vague departments that do not contribute towards our quality of life as residents. I have nothing personal against the people who work in those sort of jobs, but if i were setting policy in no way would they have been given those 'jobs' in the first place...[/p][/quote]Those budgets you mention have already been slashed - Communications budget is now half what it was under the previous Labour council. With a 2‰ tax rise the council has to find savings of £23m for the third year running, it's not enough to keep up with inflation nor the increasing cost of social care due to an aging population.[/p][/quote]The Green Party need to compromise on the council tax. Even if labour vote with them we still have to have a referendum. This will drag out uncertainty even further and the rise will probably not be voted for. Then back to square one having wasted loads of time and money. Automaton
  • Score: 14

2:46pm Wed 5 Mar 14

wexler53 says...

No such thing as council money, it all belongs to the taxpayer.

If you can't use it responsibly, then get out.

Ergo, Kit Kat et al should/must quit now.
No such thing as council money, it all belongs to the taxpayer. If you can't use it responsibly, then get out. Ergo, Kit Kat et al should/must quit now. wexler53
  • Score: 8

3:11pm Wed 5 Mar 14

spa301 says...

Everyone sees Eugenius's comments and gives it the automatic thumbs down. I doubt most of us even bother reading the thoughts of the Green propagandist any more. How sad.
Everyone sees Eugenius's comments and gives it the automatic thumbs down. I doubt most of us even bother reading the thoughts of the Green propagandist any more. How sad. spa301
  • Score: 4

4:01pm Wed 5 Mar 14

fredflintstone1 says...

Eugenius wrote:
rayellerton wrote:
So they are worried about the fact that Pickles will order the council to prioritise statutory services... will that be such a bad thing? At least we will get our rubbish collected and money wont be wasted on 'communications' 'democratic services' 'climate change' and all the other vague departments that do not contribute towards our quality of life as residents. I have nothing personal against the people who work in those sort of jobs, but if i were setting policy in no way would they have been given those 'jobs' in the first place...
Those budgets you mention have already been slashed - Communications budget is now half what it was under the previous Labour council.

With a 2‰ tax rise the council has to find savings of £23m for the third year running, it's not enough to keep up with inflation nor the increasing cost of social care due to an aging population.
Yawn .... go find a dustcart to pick up the rubbish that I've paid your Green friends to collect.

I've reached the point now where the sooner that Pickles move in and sorts this mess out, the better. It can't be worse, in terms of failure to deliver the basic service that people are paying for now.

Give me a straight answer to the question - why should Geoff Raw who is in charge of this fiasco keep his job? He should be sacked for gross incompetence now, with no pay-off.

This has been going on for five months. Chief Executive Penny Thompson - a Green appointee - has proved a disaster too, being equally unable to get a grip of this situation, although that's not entirely surprising, based on her cv.
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayellerton[/bold] wrote: So they are worried about the fact that Pickles will order the council to prioritise statutory services... will that be such a bad thing? At least we will get our rubbish collected and money wont be wasted on 'communications' 'democratic services' 'climate change' and all the other vague departments that do not contribute towards our quality of life as residents. I have nothing personal against the people who work in those sort of jobs, but if i were setting policy in no way would they have been given those 'jobs' in the first place...[/p][/quote]Those budgets you mention have already been slashed - Communications budget is now half what it was under the previous Labour council. With a 2‰ tax rise the council has to find savings of £23m for the third year running, it's not enough to keep up with inflation nor the increasing cost of social care due to an aging population.[/p][/quote]Yawn .... go find a dustcart to pick up the rubbish that I've paid your Green friends to collect. I've reached the point now where the sooner that Pickles move in and sorts this mess out, the better. It can't be worse, in terms of failure to deliver the basic service that people are paying for now. Give me a straight answer to the question - why should Geoff Raw who is in charge of this fiasco keep his job? He should be sacked for gross incompetence now, with no pay-off. This has been going on for five months. Chief Executive Penny Thompson - a Green appointee - has proved a disaster too, being equally unable to get a grip of this situation, although that's not entirely surprising, based on her cv. fredflintstone1
  • Score: 7

4:46pm Wed 5 Mar 14

RottingdeanRant says...

"it could lead to Local Government minister Eric Pickles stepping in and ordering the council to run just statutory services.” Excellent!
"it could lead to Local Government minister Eric Pickles stepping in and ordering the council to run just statutory services.” Excellent! RottingdeanRant
  • Score: 6

5:33pm Wed 5 Mar 14

John60 says...

The best thing that can happen is central government stepping in!
The best thing that can happen is central government stepping in! John60
  • Score: 5

7:20pm Wed 5 Mar 14

ourcoalition says...

Yes - bring in Pickles, then we could have a real opposition to this Government!!!
Yes - bring in Pickles, then we could have a real opposition to this Government!!! ourcoalition
  • Score: 0

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