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Have your say: Should the West Pier be dismantled?

The Argus: Have your say: Should the West Pier be dismantled? (Pic: Marc Pinter Krainer) Have your say: Should the West Pier be dismantled? (Pic: Marc Pinter Krainer)

Our story on the stunning views of the West Pier from the air has generated plenty of interest today.

But many have said they want to see the crumbling metal skeleton dismantled, claiming it is now simply an "eyesore".

We want to know what you think.

Is the structure an iconic part of Brighton and Hove, even in its dilapidated state?

Or is it blighting the seafront and should be taken down?

Let us know below.


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11:40am Thu 17 Apr 14

Goldenwight says...

Maybe we could sell it to the Americans as a tourist attraction?
Maybe we could sell it to the Americans as a tourist attraction? Goldenwight
  • Score: 0

11:42am Thu 17 Apr 14

Man of steel says...

No, dismantle the West Pier Trust instead, something might get done then.
No, dismantle the West Pier Trust instead, something might get done then. Man of steel
  • Score: 57

12:25pm Thu 17 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

What West Pier, or do you mean that rusting pile of scap metal that is sitting in the water?
If the pier was to be saved the work should have taken place within a year of it's demise, there is nothing left to be saved now.
What West Pier, or do you mean that rusting pile of scap metal that is sitting in the water? If the pier was to be saved the work should have taken place within a year of it's demise, there is nothing left to be saved now. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 39

12:25pm Thu 17 Apr 14

twonk says...

No. Let nature do it.
No. Let nature do it. twonk
  • Score: 8

12:27pm Thu 17 Apr 14

brightonaire says...

After the elections next year someone should massively and indelibly carve out 'The Green Party' on it
After the elections next year someone should massively and indelibly carve out 'The Green Party' on it brightonaire
  • Score: 5

12:53pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Hove Actually says...

Saved...are you having a laugh there is nothing stable left and I am sure the bits that were removed for "safe keeping" are long gone.

The Trust should be sued for the state it is in now and any clean up paid for out of any insurance that it should have had when it was whole, or did our gallant councillors pass that risk onto the poor taxpayers
Saved...are you having a laugh there is nothing stable left and I am sure the bits that were removed for "safe keeping" are long gone. The Trust should be sued for the state it is in now and any clean up paid for out of any insurance that it should have had when it was whole, or did our gallant councillors pass that risk onto the poor taxpayers Hove Actually
  • Score: 31

12:53pm Thu 17 Apr 14

notaconspiracy says...

No. It's a great piece of sculpture and unique to B&H, leave it alone.

You know, there was a West Pier Trust when I moved here, 30 years ago. All I've ever noticed them doing is running those market stalls on the beach.

I really hope nobody ever gives them any money...
No. It's a great piece of sculpture and unique to B&H, leave it alone. You know, there was a West Pier Trust when I moved here, 30 years ago. All I've ever noticed them doing is running those market stalls on the beach. I really hope nobody ever gives them any money... notaconspiracy
  • Score: 18

1:06pm Thu 17 Apr 14

DGee says...

It's a disgrace to have left the pier in this state. How much would it cost to rebuild with Arab money financing it? maybe the council could look into it. Now what happens if The Palace Pier burns down? the cost to this city would be incalculable with the loss of tourism. I'm sorry this i360 tower doesn't cut it with me, a rebuild of the old West Pier would revitalise that area of the seafront.
It's a disgrace to have left the pier in this state. How much would it cost to rebuild with Arab money financing it? maybe the council could look into it. Now what happens if The Palace Pier burns down? the cost to this city would be incalculable with the loss of tourism. I'm sorry this i360 tower doesn't cut it with me, a rebuild of the old West Pier would revitalise that area of the seafront. DGee
  • Score: 16

1:46pm Thu 17 Apr 14

P.Dant says...

Let it disappear in its own time.Tourists can laugh.Argus can detail each new crumble event (tech term).It`s not a big deal.
Let it disappear in its own time.Tourists can laugh.Argus can detail each new crumble event (tech term).It`s not a big deal. P.Dant
  • Score: 7

1:48pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Can this be says...

Yes, it should be dismantled and the sea bed made safe from obstructions as soon as possible. As I recall, it was closed to the public in the autumn of 1975 and nothing has happened in the following 38 years. We have collectively had long enough and the pier deserved to be treated in a better way. We have let it down and there is now nothing to save and all we can come up with is the i360 with its astonishingly unsound financial case.
Yes, it should be dismantled and the sea bed made safe from obstructions as soon as possible. As I recall, it was closed to the public in the autumn of 1975 and nothing has happened in the following 38 years. We have collectively had long enough and the pier deserved to be treated in a better way. We have let it down and there is now nothing to save and all we can come up with is the i360 with its astonishingly unsound financial case. Can this be
  • Score: 20

1:58pm Thu 17 Apr 14

rolivan says...

If successful Brighton I360 Ltd will be getting a very long lease on the site and for this the West Pier Trust who own the Freehold will be receiving rent . They should then be made to spend the money on rebuilding The West Pier . What I would like to know is how much they are receiving and where has the money they have received over the years gone apparently they have only one person who is receiving a Salary . Also how Iis it that a relatively small Town in comparison like Worthing have a brand new Swimming Pool built and now a refurbished Pavilion for their Pier . Surely the Site of the Old Black Rock Swimming Pool site should only be used for sport facilities.
If successful Brighton I360 Ltd will be getting a very long lease on the site and for this the West Pier Trust who own the Freehold will be receiving rent . They should then be made to spend the money on rebuilding The West Pier . What I would like to know is how much they are receiving and where has the money they have received over the years gone apparently they have only one person who is receiving a Salary . Also how Iis it that a relatively small Town in comparison like Worthing have a brand new Swimming Pool built and now a refurbished Pavilion for their Pier . Surely the Site of the Old Black Rock Swimming Pool site should only be used for sport facilities. rolivan
  • Score: 12

2:09pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Lady Smith says...

notaconspiracy wrote:
No. It's a great piece of sculpture and unique to B&H, leave it alone.

You know, there was a West Pier Trust when I moved here, 30 years ago. All I've ever noticed them doing is running those market stalls on the beach.

I really hope nobody ever gives them any money...
They've thrown their 'support' (for what it's worth) behind the West Pier White Elephant i.e. the i360. A pox on their houses.
[quote][p][bold]notaconspiracy[/bold] wrote: No. It's a great piece of sculpture and unique to B&H, leave it alone. You know, there was a West Pier Trust when I moved here, 30 years ago. All I've ever noticed them doing is running those market stalls on the beach. I really hope nobody ever gives them any money...[/p][/quote]They've thrown their 'support' (for what it's worth) behind the West Pier White Elephant i.e. the i360. A pox on their houses. Lady Smith
  • Score: 11

2:10pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Old Ladys Gin says...

It's a ruin and we have enough of those in Brighton and Hove as it is; much of the housing stock is crumbling. If you walk about and look upwards this is plain to see.
The iron of the pier would have been heated in the various fires which will have made it brittle and almost impossible to build on or renovate.
Get rid of the thing and build something stunning and modern and suitable for this century.
It's a ruin and we have enough of those in Brighton and Hove as it is; much of the housing stock is crumbling. If you walk about and look upwards this is plain to see. The iron of the pier would have been heated in the various fires which will have made it brittle and almost impossible to build on or renovate. Get rid of the thing and build something stunning and modern and suitable for this century. Old Ladys Gin
  • Score: 7

3:13pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Man of steel says...

Rolivan, and notaconspiracy, they have had millions given to them, a millionaire friend of mine, now deceased, was part of the trust back in the 80s, the amount of money that they were squandering on architechs, surveyers, solicitors, and meetings, made him give it up, as he knew that nothing would ever be done to repair the structure.
And to Hove Actually, the sellng off of the so called saved bits was featured on a TV show called Salvage Hunters
Rolivan, and notaconspiracy, they have had millions given to them, a millionaire friend of mine, now deceased, was part of the trust back in the 80s, the amount of money that they were squandering on architechs, surveyers, solicitors, and meetings, made him give it up, as he knew that nothing would ever be done to repair the structure. And to Hove Actually, the sellng off of the so called saved bits was featured on a TV show called Salvage Hunters Man of steel
  • Score: 11

3:29pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Gribbet says...

twonk wrote:
No. Let nature do it.
What he/she said. The west pier is as good as a sculpture these days. Keep it Wabi Sabi.
[quote][p][bold]twonk[/bold] wrote: No. Let nature do it.[/p][/quote]What he/she said. The west pier is as good as a sculpture these days. Keep it Wabi Sabi. Gribbet
  • Score: 1

3:44pm Thu 17 Apr 14

saveHOVE says...

Man of steel wrote:
No, dismantle the West Pier Trust instead, something might get done then.
If the Public Works Loan Board refuse the application from BHCC to borrow £36.2m to lend on to get the i360 built, the West Pier Trust has said it could be forced to fold its tent. But it is responsible for the wreck at sea.

The planning consent for the i360 includes clearance of the wreckage at sea. Clearing some of it in 2009 allowed the planning consent to be deemed implemented so it did not expire.

If the i360 is built the wreck at sea will be removed as part of the deal.

If it is not built there is a problem of just who WILL remove the bits in the sea and the hulk that is slowly falling in. It WILL have to be removed one day. But when and by whom? And should the price of it be that massive pole with its doughnut ride to the top?

If you would like to see the project thwarted, please sign the petition asking the Public Works Loan Board not to lend the money and then it will die. Link to it: tinyurl.com/o9t76xh
[quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: No, dismantle the West Pier Trust instead, something might get done then.[/p][/quote]If the Public Works Loan Board refuse the application from BHCC to borrow £36.2m to lend on to get the i360 built, the West Pier Trust has said it could be forced to fold its tent. But it is responsible for the wreck at sea. The planning consent for the i360 includes clearance of the wreckage at sea. Clearing some of it in 2009 allowed the planning consent to be deemed implemented so it did not expire. If the i360 is built the wreck at sea will be removed as part of the deal. If it is not built there is a problem of just who WILL remove the bits in the sea and the hulk that is slowly falling in. It WILL have to be removed one day. But when and by whom? And should the price of it be that massive pole with its doughnut ride to the top? If you would like to see the project thwarted, please sign the petition asking the Public Works Loan Board not to lend the money and then it will die. Link to it: tinyurl.com/o9t76xh saveHOVE
  • Score: 7

3:53pm Thu 17 Apr 14

DCCCCCC says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
What West Pier, or do you mean that rusting pile of scap metal that is sitting in the water?
If the pier was to be saved the work should have taken place within a year of it's demise, there is nothing left to be saved now.
I totally agree. There isn't a West Pier anymore, it's gone. Just a pile of old scrap. Nothing to save in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: What West Pier, or do you mean that rusting pile of scap metal that is sitting in the water? If the pier was to be saved the work should have taken place within a year of it's demise, there is nothing left to be saved now.[/p][/quote]I totally agree. There isn't a West Pier anymore, it's gone. Just a pile of old scrap. Nothing to save in my opinion. DCCCCCC
  • Score: 6

4:06pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Lady Smith says...

saveHOVE wrote:
Man of steel wrote:
No, dismantle the West Pier Trust instead, something might get done then.
If the Public Works Loan Board refuse the application from BHCC to borrow £36.2m to lend on to get the i360 built, the West Pier Trust has said it could be forced to fold its tent. But it is responsible for the wreck at sea.

The planning consent for the i360 includes clearance of the wreckage at sea. Clearing some of it in 2009 allowed the planning consent to be deemed implemented so it did not expire.

If the i360 is built the wreck at sea will be removed as part of the deal.

If it is not built there is a problem of just who WILL remove the bits in the sea and the hulk that is slowly falling in. It WILL have to be removed one day. But when and by whom? And should the price of it be that massive pole with its doughnut ride to the top?

If you would like to see the project thwarted, please sign the petition asking the Public Works Loan Board not to lend the money and then it will die. Link to it: tinyurl.com/o9t76xh
Yup. That's why the WPT are supporting the £20-a-ride Pole - it absolves them of any responsibility to clear the wreckage. What a costly trade-off that could be for the city.
[quote][p][bold]saveHOVE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: No, dismantle the West Pier Trust instead, something might get done then.[/p][/quote]If the Public Works Loan Board refuse the application from BHCC to borrow £36.2m to lend on to get the i360 built, the West Pier Trust has said it could be forced to fold its tent. But it is responsible for the wreck at sea. The planning consent for the i360 includes clearance of the wreckage at sea. Clearing some of it in 2009 allowed the planning consent to be deemed implemented so it did not expire. If the i360 is built the wreck at sea will be removed as part of the deal. If it is not built there is a problem of just who WILL remove the bits in the sea and the hulk that is slowly falling in. It WILL have to be removed one day. But when and by whom? And should the price of it be that massive pole with its doughnut ride to the top? If you would like to see the project thwarted, please sign the petition asking the Public Works Loan Board not to lend the money and then it will die. Link to it: tinyurl.com/o9t76xh[/p][/quote]Yup. That's why the WPT are supporting the £20-a-ride Pole - it absolves them of any responsibility to clear the wreckage. What a costly trade-off that could be for the city. Lady Smith
  • Score: 6

4:36pm Thu 17 Apr 14

saveHOVE says...

Lady Smith wrote:
saveHOVE wrote:
Man of steel wrote:
No, dismantle the West Pier Trust instead, something might get done then.
If the Public Works Loan Board refuse the application from BHCC to borrow £36.2m to lend on to get the i360 built, the West Pier Trust has said it could be forced to fold its tent. But it is responsible for the wreck at sea.

The planning consent for the i360 includes clearance of the wreckage at sea. Clearing some of it in 2009 allowed the planning consent to be deemed implemented so it did not expire.

If the i360 is built the wreck at sea will be removed as part of the deal.

If it is not built there is a problem of just who WILL remove the bits in the sea and the hulk that is slowly falling in. It WILL have to be removed one day. But when and by whom? And should the price of it be that massive pole with its doughnut ride to the top?

If you would like to see the project thwarted, please sign the petition asking the Public Works Loan Board not to lend the money and then it will die. Link to it: tinyurl.com/o9t76xh
Yup. That's why the WPT are supporting the £20-a-ride Pole - it absolves them of any responsibility to clear the wreckage. What a costly trade-off that could be for the city.
The West Pier Trust are not just supporting the360....they commissioned it.
[quote][p][bold]Lady Smith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saveHOVE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: No, dismantle the West Pier Trust instead, something might get done then.[/p][/quote]If the Public Works Loan Board refuse the application from BHCC to borrow £36.2m to lend on to get the i360 built, the West Pier Trust has said it could be forced to fold its tent. But it is responsible for the wreck at sea. The planning consent for the i360 includes clearance of the wreckage at sea. Clearing some of it in 2009 allowed the planning consent to be deemed implemented so it did not expire. If the i360 is built the wreck at sea will be removed as part of the deal. If it is not built there is a problem of just who WILL remove the bits in the sea and the hulk that is slowly falling in. It WILL have to be removed one day. But when and by whom? And should the price of it be that massive pole with its doughnut ride to the top? If you would like to see the project thwarted, please sign the petition asking the Public Works Loan Board not to lend the money and then it will die. Link to it: tinyurl.com/o9t76xh[/p][/quote]Yup. That's why the WPT are supporting the £20-a-ride Pole - it absolves them of any responsibility to clear the wreckage. What a costly trade-off that could be for the city.[/p][/quote]The West Pier Trust are not just supporting the360....they commissioned it. saveHOVE
  • Score: 6

4:51pm Thu 17 Apr 14

melee says...

I agree that there is nothing resembling a pier that could be salvaged or repaired, but what's left comes into its own at dusk with the stunning displays from the swooping starlings and the gorgeous sunset shining through it. That could never be replaced and is enough for me to want to see it kept there as long as nature allows.
I agree that there is nothing resembling a pier that could be salvaged or repaired, but what's left comes into its own at dusk with the stunning displays from the swooping starlings and the gorgeous sunset shining through it. That could never be replaced and is enough for me to want to see it kept there as long as nature allows. melee
  • Score: 10

5:28pm Thu 17 Apr 14

ICantThinkOfAName says...

How is the rebuilding of Hastings Pier progressing?
How is the rebuilding of Hastings Pier progressing? ICantThinkOfAName
  • Score: 7

6:00pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Max Ripple says...

rolivan wrote:
If successful Brighton I360 Ltd will be getting a very long lease on the site and for this the West Pier Trust who own the Freehold will be receiving rent . They should then be made to spend the money on rebuilding The West Pier . What I would like to know is how much they are receiving and where has the money they have received over the years gone apparently they have only one person who is receiving a Salary . Also how Iis it that a relatively small Town in comparison like Worthing have a brand new Swimming Pool built and now a refurbished Pavilion for their Pier . Surely the Site of the Old Black Rock Swimming Pool site should only be used for sport facilities.
Agree about finding out was has happened to all the cash that went to the West Pier Trust. Something very dodgy there. Ask Rachel Clark, I'm sure she must know. Personally I think it should be left up but a memorial stone should be set on the prom with the names if all the people who objected to perfectly viable schemes and plans for it engraved on it so that they go down in infamy for all time. And the Noble Organisation should be at the top.
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: If successful Brighton I360 Ltd will be getting a very long lease on the site and for this the West Pier Trust who own the Freehold will be receiving rent . They should then be made to spend the money on rebuilding The West Pier . What I would like to know is how much they are receiving and where has the money they have received over the years gone apparently they have only one person who is receiving a Salary . Also how Iis it that a relatively small Town in comparison like Worthing have a brand new Swimming Pool built and now a refurbished Pavilion for their Pier . Surely the Site of the Old Black Rock Swimming Pool site should only be used for sport facilities.[/p][/quote]Agree about finding out was has happened to all the cash that went to the West Pier Trust. Something very dodgy there. Ask Rachel Clark, I'm sure she must know. Personally I think it should be left up but a memorial stone should be set on the prom with the names if all the people who objected to perfectly viable schemes and plans for it engraved on it so that they go down in infamy for all time. And the Noble Organisation should be at the top. Max Ripple
  • Score: 9

6:14pm Thu 17 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

Its still a massive tourist attraction let her go in her own time,the thing that's bothering me is the green council have now blocked off most of the walkway and arches on Medina drive,so basically they have now been left to rot.This is what happened to the West Pier once even basic maintenance stops the sea air quickly takes its toll.Walking along the seafront in the early morning you can see how rundown the whole area is.
Its still a massive tourist attraction let her go in her own time,the thing that's bothering me is the green council have now blocked off most of the walkway and arches on Medina drive,so basically they have now been left to rot.This is what happened to the West Pier once even basic maintenance stops the sea air quickly takes its toll.Walking along the seafront in the early morning you can see how rundown the whole area is. clubrob6
  • Score: 4

10:02pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Eugenius says...

clubrob6 wrote:
Its still a massive tourist attraction let her go in her own time,the thing that's bothering me is the green council have now blocked off most of the walkway and arches on Medina drive,so basically they have now been left to rot.This is what happened to the West Pier once even basic maintenance stops the sea air quickly takes its toll.Walking along the seafront in the early morning you can see how rundown the whole area is.
Council has only blocked off Madeira Terraces to save them from further structural damage or collapse - we're talking about decades of neglect. Up until now the stretch to the west of Palace Pier has had all the investment - which was probably the right choice, and personally I think the work done in the '90s was superb. A cross-party panel has been set up to work out the best way to fund necessary seafront infrastructure repairs, current cost estimated at £78m.
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: Its still a massive tourist attraction let her go in her own time,the thing that's bothering me is the green council have now blocked off most of the walkway and arches on Medina drive,so basically they have now been left to rot.This is what happened to the West Pier once even basic maintenance stops the sea air quickly takes its toll.Walking along the seafront in the early morning you can see how rundown the whole area is.[/p][/quote]Council has only blocked off Madeira Terraces to save them from further structural damage or collapse - we're talking about decades of neglect. Up until now the stretch to the west of Palace Pier has had all the investment - which was probably the right choice, and personally I think the work done in the '90s was superb. A cross-party panel has been set up to work out the best way to fund necessary seafront infrastructure repairs, current cost estimated at £78m. Eugenius
  • Score: -2

11:59pm Thu 17 Apr 14

In the sticks says...

DGee wrote:
It's a disgrace to have left the pier in this state. How much would it cost to rebuild with Arab money financing it? maybe the council could look into it. Now what happens if The Palace Pier burns down? the cost to this city would be incalculable with the loss of tourism. I'm sorry this i360 tower doesn't cut it with me, a rebuild of the old West Pier would revitalise that area of the seafront.
I think any 'Arab money' would want a better return on investment than a rebuilt amusement arcade would provide.
[quote][p][bold]DGee[/bold] wrote: It's a disgrace to have left the pier in this state. How much would it cost to rebuild with Arab money financing it? maybe the council could look into it. Now what happens if The Palace Pier burns down? the cost to this city would be incalculable with the loss of tourism. I'm sorry this i360 tower doesn't cut it with me, a rebuild of the old West Pier would revitalise that area of the seafront.[/p][/quote]I think any 'Arab money' would want a better return on investment than a rebuilt amusement arcade would provide. In the sticks
  • Score: 0

12:07am Fri 18 Apr 14

Eugenius says...

Cost of rebuilding the West Pier was estimated at £50m back in 2005 and anyone putting in that sum would be unlikely to see a return on their investment so it would have to be a philanthropic endeavour.
Cost of rebuilding the West Pier was estimated at £50m back in 2005 and anyone putting in that sum would be unlikely to see a return on their investment so it would have to be a philanthropic endeavour. Eugenius
  • Score: -3

1:07am Fri 18 Apr 14

Poem58 says...

By the constant gaggle of visitors photographing the wreckage of the West Pier it is still very much a tourist attraction.

Imagine the huge rusting hulk coming alive every night on the hour with a light show spectacular.

This would undoubtedly be a must see attraction - and do our local businesses and hoteliers proud... and for a relatively affordable price too.
By the constant gaggle of visitors photographing the wreckage of the West Pier it is still very much a tourist attraction. Imagine the huge rusting hulk coming alive every night on the hour with a light show spectacular. This would undoubtedly be a must see attraction - and do our local businesses and hoteliers proud... and for a relatively affordable price too. Poem58
  • Score: 8

2:03am Fri 18 Apr 14

Zeta Function says...

How will they clean the bird dropping off the i360?

I am in favour of an open view, a jetty for fishing with a diving platform
How will they clean the bird dropping off the i360? I am in favour of an open view, a jetty for fishing with a diving platform Zeta Function
  • Score: 2

7:02am Fri 18 Apr 14

MikeyA says...

notaconspiracy wrote:
No. It's a great piece of sculpture and unique to B&H, leave it alone.

You know, there was a West Pier Trust when I moved here, 30 years ago. All I've ever noticed them doing is running those market stalls on the beach.

I really hope nobody ever gives them any money...
Given the great job that the folk in Hastings have done, what is the excuse of the West Pier Trust for their inactivity?
[quote][p][bold]notaconspiracy[/bold] wrote: No. It's a great piece of sculpture and unique to B&H, leave it alone. You know, there was a West Pier Trust when I moved here, 30 years ago. All I've ever noticed them doing is running those market stalls on the beach. I really hope nobody ever gives them any money...[/p][/quote]Given the great job that the folk in Hastings have done, what is the excuse of the West Pier Trust for their inactivity? MikeyA
  • Score: 3

8:32am Fri 18 Apr 14

voiceofthescoombe says...

They are utterly hopeless?
Why does the wreck need to be cleared? bouy at the end mark it as dangerous structre leave well alone. would cost millions for very little value.
They are utterly hopeless? Why does the wreck need to be cleared? bouy at the end mark it as dangerous structre leave well alone. would cost millions for very little value. voiceofthescoombe
  • Score: 0

9:59am Fri 18 Apr 14

Worthingwithoutbuses! says...

PULL IT DOWN! - It is a pile of rusting iron from a bygone age.
Piers were built to "amuse and attract" the Victorian Holiday tripper to the Coast BEFORE you could jet off to Spain for £50! It is of an era of the Posh & Poor, all "promenading" up and down the Seafront and Piers TO BE SEEN.
Those days are consigned to the History books now and DO NOT say that the other "FUNFAIR ON STILTS" is a traditional Pier! It is a danger to people who swim (god knows why they would want to swim in the polluted water around Brighton anyway), but it is still an danger... and a bloody great eye sore! Rip it down and be done with it. There are plenty of "artistic images out there of the original Pier and of the first "Skeleton" depictions of it available to buy in every Photo Framing shop in B and H. It nothing but a tangled mess of rotting iron that is only fit for demolition. Too late WPT. If the WPT did not "faff, faff, faff continually, they may have been able to save it many years ago, but that time has now passed. It is SCRAP CRAP now.
PULL IT DOWN! - It is a pile of rusting iron from a bygone age. Piers were built to "amuse and attract" the Victorian Holiday tripper to the Coast BEFORE you could jet off to Spain for £50! It is of an era of the Posh & Poor, all "promenading" up and down the Seafront and Piers TO BE SEEN. Those days are consigned to the History books now and DO NOT say that the other "FUNFAIR ON STILTS" is a traditional Pier! It is a danger to people who swim (god knows why they would want to swim in the polluted water around Brighton anyway), but it is still an danger... and a bloody great eye sore! Rip it down and be done with it. There are plenty of "artistic images out there of the original Pier and of the first "Skeleton" depictions of it available to buy in every Photo Framing shop in B and H. It nothing but a tangled mess of rotting iron that is only fit for demolition. Too late WPT. If the WPT did not "faff, faff, faff continually, they may have been able to save it many years ago, but that time has now passed. It is SCRAP CRAP now. Worthingwithoutbuses!
  • Score: -7

10:43am Fri 18 Apr 14

Man of steel says...

Eugenius wrote:
Cost of rebuilding the West Pier was estimated at £50m back in 2005 and anyone putting in that sum would be unlikely to see a return on their investment so it would have to be a philanthropic endeavour.
It would have cost a lot less than 10 million in the 70s and 80s, and I was told that the West Pier Trust had most if not all of that at the time.
They also had the promise of Lottery funding if they did any work, so what did they do? Took some bits off and sold them.
I'm still waitng for the theatre to be put back on the Palace Pier, which was a condition of removing the old one.
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: Cost of rebuilding the West Pier was estimated at £50m back in 2005 and anyone putting in that sum would be unlikely to see a return on their investment so it would have to be a philanthropic endeavour.[/p][/quote]It would have cost a lot less than 10 million in the 70s and 80s, and I was told that the West Pier Trust had most if not all of that at the time. They also had the promise of Lottery funding if they did any work, so what did they do? Took some bits off and sold them. I'm still waitng for the theatre to be put back on the Palace Pier, which was a condition of removing the old one. Man of steel
  • Score: 3

11:34am Fri 18 Apr 14

Valerie Paynter says...

Zeta Function wrote:
How will they clean the bird dropping off the i360?

I am in favour of an open view, a jetty for fishing with a diving platform
Totally with you on this. Depending on the geology (sea depth and sea floor) some enclosing sea walls (like at the Marina to shelter boats) beyond the jetty could provide a safe diving "pool" area. There are currently no diving facilities in the city whatsoever. Diving was removed from the Regent pool near the Jubilee Library when they messed with the pool ahead of the King Alfred planning application. That was a Labour Administration getting it wrong. They are all the same.
[quote][p][bold]Zeta Function[/bold] wrote: How will they clean the bird dropping off the i360? I am in favour of an open view, a jetty for fishing with a diving platform[/p][/quote]Totally with you on this. Depending on the geology (sea depth and sea floor) some enclosing sea walls (like at the Marina to shelter boats) beyond the jetty could provide a safe diving "pool" area. There are currently no diving facilities in the city whatsoever. Diving was removed from the Regent pool near the Jubilee Library when they messed with the pool ahead of the King Alfred planning application. That was a Labour Administration getting it wrong. They are all the same. Valerie Paynter
  • Score: 1

1:05pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Roundbill says...

Last time I posted on this subject, it was to ask the West Pier Trust's Chief Executive whether it bothered her that so many people thought her trust was corrupt. The post was deleted by the moderator within half an hour. I wonder whether this post will suffer a similar fate?
Last time I posted on this subject, it was to ask the West Pier Trust's Chief Executive whether it bothered her that so many people thought her trust was corrupt. The post was deleted by the moderator within half an hour. I wonder whether this post will suffer a similar fate? Roundbill
  • Score: 14

11:21pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Ian Killmister ( lemme) says...

My pal was on the West Pier Trust in 1988 . It is now 2014 . I cannot understand this ENGLISH fascination in protecting OLD rubbish under conservation orders , listed buildings etc . Our European buddies are building new legacies etc etc . We just SKIM off the top and use the SAME old roads , SAME old infrastructure with the SAME old political representation and the SAME old ENGLAND . Change , ? anyone ? AND I dont mean a HUGE silver PHALLUS with a donut on it !
My pal was on the West Pier Trust in 1988 . It is now 2014 . I cannot understand this ENGLISH fascination in protecting OLD rubbish under conservation orders , listed buildings etc . Our European buddies are building new legacies etc etc . We just SKIM off the top and use the SAME old roads , SAME old infrastructure with the SAME old political representation and the SAME old ENGLAND . Change , ? anyone ? AND I dont mean a HUGE silver PHALLUS with a donut on it ! Ian Killmister ( lemme)
  • Score: 0

4:44pm Mon 28 Apr 14

PorkyChopper says...

rolivan wrote:
If successful Brighton I360 Ltd will be getting a very long lease on the site and for this the West Pier Trust who own the Freehold will be receiving rent . They should then be made to spend the money on rebuilding The West Pier . What I would like to know is how much they are receiving and where has the money they have received over the years gone apparently they have only one person who is receiving a Salary . Also how Iis it that a relatively small Town in comparison like Worthing have a brand new Swimming Pool built and now a refurbished Pavilion for their Pier . Surely the Site of the Old Black Rock Swimming Pool site should only be used for sport facilities.
That was the original idea behind the i360. It would be a scheme to make money to restore the West Pier. How about an investigation into that, Argus?
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: If successful Brighton I360 Ltd will be getting a very long lease on the site and for this the West Pier Trust who own the Freehold will be receiving rent . They should then be made to spend the money on rebuilding The West Pier . What I would like to know is how much they are receiving and where has the money they have received over the years gone apparently they have only one person who is receiving a Salary . Also how Iis it that a relatively small Town in comparison like Worthing have a brand new Swimming Pool built and now a refurbished Pavilion for their Pier . Surely the Site of the Old Black Rock Swimming Pool site should only be used for sport facilities.[/p][/quote]That was the original idea behind the i360. It would be a scheme to make money to restore the West Pier. How about an investigation into that, Argus? PorkyChopper
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