Tiny seagull chicks spotted on roof

Two seagull chicks stroll across a roof

Two seagull chicks stroll across a roof

First published in News

TWO seagull chicks took their first tentative steps under the watchful eyes of their parents.

In the basking sun the pair of tiny herring gulls strolled their way across the roof of a house in Queens Park, Brighton, with their parents never far away.

They were spotted by Argus photographer Simon Dack as they paraded up and down his roof on Tuesday.

Mr Dack said: “They start thumping around on my roof at about four in the morning.

“The other day we went outside and we were surprised to see there were these two chicks and their parents on the roof.

“The parents spent all day guarding them and fending off other seagulls.”

He added that the gulls nest on the roofs over neighbouring houses and they come back to the same spots every year.

Herring gulls can grow up to 26 inches long and are one of the most common gulls in Europe, being found all along the coastlines of northern, western and central Europe as well as Scandinavia.

They are long lived, with the oldest recorded gull being 49 years old.

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9:05am Sun 15 Jun 14

tekniko says...

Wow, so rare in Brighton & Hove.
Wow, so rare in Brighton & Hove. tekniko
  • Score: 48

9:22am Sun 15 Jun 14

TonyTony says...

Wow i wonder if anyone else has seen any seagulls.
Wow i wonder if anyone else has seen any seagulls. TonyTony
  • Score: 38

9:25am Sun 15 Jun 14

roystony says...

Omg breaking news
Omg breaking news roystony
  • Score: 31

9:27am Sun 15 Jun 14

tekniko says...

Are you in the area? Have you spotted any seagulls and their chicks? What do you think? Email letters@theargus.co.
uk, visit theargus.co.uk/lette
rs or write to us with your thoughts
Are you in the area? Have you spotted any seagulls and their chicks? What do you think? Email letters@theargus.co. uk, visit theargus.co.uk/lette rs or write to us with your thoughts tekniko
  • Score: 26

9:34am Sun 15 Jun 14

Grumpy0ldman says...

Possibly......just possibly, the most ridiculous piece of non news I have ever, ever ever read !!!!!!!
Possibly......just possibly, the most ridiculous piece of non news I have ever, ever ever read !!!!!!! Grumpy0ldman
  • Score: 50

9:45am Sun 15 Jun 14

fratsomrover says...

Coup of the century !!! What an astounding piece of breaking news.
Almost as rare as Travelers occupying our parks.
Coup of the century !!! What an astounding piece of breaking news. Almost as rare as Travelers occupying our parks. fratsomrover
  • Score: 24

9:47am Sun 15 Jun 14

Martha Gunn says...

My pair have four chicks this year.

Now that is news.

But the Magpies are trying to eat them.
My pair have four chicks this year. Now that is news. But the Magpies are trying to eat them. Martha Gunn
  • Score: 21

10:01am Sun 15 Jun 14

Wide Bertha says...

John Simpson must be sh***ing his pants....
John Simpson must be sh***ing his pants.... Wide Bertha
  • Score: 15

10:10am Sun 15 Jun 14

Monterey says...

Lovely picture.
Lovely picture. Monterey
  • Score: 3

10:14am Sun 15 Jun 14

andyfm says...

And people" PAY" to buy this rubbish paper,with stupid stories like this????
And people" PAY" to buy this rubbish paper,with stupid stories like this???? andyfm
  • Score: 14

10:18am Sun 15 Jun 14

Roundbill says...

Monterey wrote:
Lovely picture.
Monterey, aka Simon Dack's mum.
[quote][p][bold]Monterey[/bold] wrote: Lovely picture.[/p][/quote]Monterey, aka Simon Dack's mum. Roundbill
  • Score: 8

10:23am Sun 15 Jun 14

tekniko says...

Roundbill wrote:
Monterey wrote:
Lovely picture.
Monterey, aka Simon Dack's mum.
Aaaah, bless. for a seven year old Simon has written a really lovely first news story. You'll go far Simon.
[quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monterey[/bold] wrote: Lovely picture.[/p][/quote]Monterey, aka Simon Dack's mum.[/p][/quote]Aaaah, bless. for a seven year old Simon has written a really lovely first news story. You'll go far Simon. tekniko
  • Score: 10

10:34am Sun 15 Jun 14

Emmin says...

Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.
Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated. Emmin
  • Score: -15

10:38am Sun 15 Jun 14

MikeTheKnight says...

Emmin wrote:
Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.
You must be a green with that ridiculous comment. SEAgulls live by the sea. Brighton is on the seafront.
[quote][p][bold]Emmin[/bold] wrote: Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.[/p][/quote]You must be a green with that ridiculous comment. SEAgulls live by the sea. Brighton is on the seafront. MikeTheKnight
  • Score: 20

11:04am Sun 15 Jun 14

From beer to uncertainty says...

What about some live updates? How can the Argus deeply touch so many lives with this epic drama and then simply cut it's readers adrift?...never knowing, as the years come and go - as the seasons of our wretched and tortured existence transform on this absurd transcendental journey, what happened to those annoying little b'stard chicks.
Tony Blair is probably available for comment on this matter, and every other, subject if the Argus want to call him.
What about some live updates? How can the Argus deeply touch so many lives with this epic drama and then simply cut it's readers adrift?...never knowing, as the years come and go - as the seasons of our wretched and tortured existence transform on this absurd transcendental journey, what happened to those annoying little b'stard chicks. Tony Blair is probably available for comment on this matter, and every other, subject if the Argus want to call him. From beer to uncertainty
  • Score: 12

11:08am Sun 15 Jun 14

raylewry says...

MikeTheKnight wrote:
Emmin wrote:
Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.
You must be a green with that ridiculous comment. SEAgulls live by the sea. Brighton is on the seafront.
Just flying rats
[quote][p][bold]MikeTheKnight[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Emmin[/bold] wrote: Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.[/p][/quote]You must be a green with that ridiculous comment. SEAgulls live by the sea. Brighton is on the seafront.[/p][/quote]Just flying rats raylewry
  • Score: -5

11:25am Sun 15 Jun 14

Lady Smith says...

Emmin wrote:
Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.
If you don't like seagulls, then why live by the sea?
It was their home before it was inhabited by humans - who, of course, leave the rubbish out that they feed on. This wasn't a city, it was a fishing town. It's idiots like you who should leave.
[quote][p][bold]Emmin[/bold] wrote: Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.[/p][/quote]If you don't like seagulls, then why live by the sea? It was their home before it was inhabited by humans - who, of course, leave the rubbish out that they feed on. This wasn't a city, it was a fishing town. It's idiots like you who should leave. Lady Smith
  • Score: 30

11:35am Sun 15 Jun 14

jugglingmoonfish says...

(From a decent hard working person).Herring Gulls are on the red endangered bird list. Numbers are falling and that's why they are a protective species. They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing, like so many other species on this planet. We've been looking after a 'Seagull' for over a year now, (someone had shot him through his wing) fascinating birds. They see everything in ultra violet light . Out of his natural environment he has never been aggressive,never squawked, but he chuckles, clucks and smiles a lot.. May be someone should take Emmin out of the city and to the cliffs or else be exterminated.....
(From a decent hard working person).Herring Gulls are on the red endangered bird list. Numbers are falling and that's why they are a protective species. They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing, like so many other species on this planet. We've been looking after a 'Seagull' for over a year now, (someone had shot him through his wing) fascinating birds. They see everything in ultra violet light . Out of his natural environment he has never been aggressive,never squawked, but he chuckles, clucks and smiles a lot.. May be someone should take Emmin out of the city and to the cliffs or else be exterminated..... jugglingmoonfish
  • Score: 26

3:33pm Sun 15 Jun 14

andyfm says...

After Englands defeat last night, it has made me laugh at all the witty replys on what must be the most daft news story EVER!!!!!!
After Englands defeat last night, it has made me laugh at all the witty replys on what must be the most daft news story EVER!!!!!! andyfm
  • Score: 9

5:28pm Sun 15 Jun 14

hubby says...

Shoot the evil vermin!!!!
Then when all of the Argus reporters are dead start culling the seagulls.

I live in South East Spain. Very close to the Med.
We do get seagulls,but nowhere near as many and far less aggressive than the ones I lived alongside in Brighton for 40 odd years.
Shoot the evil vermin!!!! Then when all of the Argus reporters are dead start culling the seagulls. I live in South East Spain. Very close to the Med. We do get seagulls,but nowhere near as many and far less aggressive than the ones I lived alongside in Brighton for 40 odd years. hubby
  • Score: -9

6:33pm Sun 15 Jun 14

babsticals says...

Wow,baby seagulls at the seaside ? ? I don't believe that at all!! Best news of the year so far.
Wow,baby seagulls at the seaside ? ? I don't believe that at all!! Best news of the year so far. babsticals
  • Score: 4

7:14pm Sun 15 Jun 14

hubby says...

I didn`t think seagulls had babies.
I thought they had chicks.
I didn`t think seagulls had babies. I thought they had chicks. hubby
  • Score: 7

9:25pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Preyrun says...

Brighton without the sound of seagulls would not be Brighton,I love them and there attitude,the sound of seagulls does not register with true Brightonians in the same way that people who live by a railway grow used to the sound of trains.
Brighton without the sound of seagulls would not be Brighton,I love them and there attitude,the sound of seagulls does not register with true Brightonians in the same way that people who live by a railway grow used to the sound of trains. Preyrun
  • Score: 11

9:52pm Sun 15 Jun 14

tekniko says...

Preyrun wrote:
Brighton without the sound of seagulls would not be Brighton,I love them and there attitude,the sound of seagulls does not register with true Brightonians in the same way that people who live by a railway grow used to the sound of trains.
There is a lot I could say, but I can't be bothered.
[quote][p][bold]Preyrun[/bold] wrote: Brighton without the sound of seagulls would not be Brighton,I love them and there attitude,the sound of seagulls does not register with true Brightonians in the same way that people who live by a railway grow used to the sound of trains.[/p][/quote]There is a lot I could say, but I can't be bothered. tekniko
  • Score: -2

10:24pm Sun 15 Jun 14

NathanAdler says...

Ahhhhh, that seagull in the photo looks just like the one I saw in Bognor today.

Wonder if they are related??
Ahhhhh, that seagull in the photo looks just like the one I saw in Bognor today. Wonder if they are related?? NathanAdler
  • Score: 11

10:39pm Sun 15 Jun 14

hoveguyactually says...

Vile creatures! Utterly useless vermin! Just like pigeons, they should all be exterminated. All they can do is eat and crap and make a terrific din.
Vile creatures! Utterly useless vermin! Just like pigeons, they should all be exterminated. All they can do is eat and crap and make a terrific din. hoveguyactually
  • Score: -7

10:57pm Sun 15 Jun 14

PorkyChopper says...

Emmin wrote:
Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.
That's no way to talk about students. Shame on you.
[quote][p][bold]Emmin[/bold] wrote: Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.[/p][/quote]That's no way to talk about students. Shame on you. PorkyChopper
  • Score: 14

10:58pm Sun 15 Jun 14

sussexram40 says...

Is this news?
Shock, horror.. Birds have chicks?
Is this news? Shock, horror.. Birds have chicks? sussexram40
  • Score: 4

11:27pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Grumpy0ldman says...

hubby wrote:
Shoot the evil vermin!!!!
Then when all of the Argus reporters are dead start culling the seagulls.

I live in South East Spain. Very close to the Med.
We do get seagulls,but nowhere near as many and far less aggressive than the ones I lived alongside in Brighton for 40 odd years.
C'mon argus reporters are ok We all need a laugh
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: Shoot the evil vermin!!!! Then when all of the Argus reporters are dead start culling the seagulls. I live in South East Spain. Very close to the Med. We do get seagulls,but nowhere near as many and far less aggressive than the ones I lived alongside in Brighton for 40 odd years.[/p][/quote]C'mon argus reporters are ok We all need a laugh Grumpy0ldman
  • Score: 5

11:07am Mon 16 Jun 14

TheDrive says...

Lovely picture. They are an integral part of living by the sea and do a lot less harm that us.
Lovely picture. They are an integral part of living by the sea and do a lot less harm that us. TheDrive
  • Score: 3

12:21pm Mon 16 Jun 14

TonyTony says...

jugglingmoonfish wrote:
(From a decent hard working person).Herring Gulls are on the red endangered bird list. Numbers are falling and that's why they are a protective species. They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing, like so many other species on this planet. We've been looking after a 'Seagull' for over a year now, (someone had shot him through his wing) fascinating birds. They see everything in ultra violet light . Out of his natural environment he has never been aggressive,never squawked, but he chuckles, clucks and smiles a lot.. May be someone should take Emmin out of the city and to the cliffs or else be exterminated.....
I think you have misunderstood something when you say "They see everything in ultra violet light" they do not, they may see the ultra violet part of the spectrum
[quote][p][bold]jugglingmoonfish[/bold] wrote: (From a decent hard working person).Herring Gulls are on the red endangered bird list. Numbers are falling and that's why they are a protective species. They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing, like so many other species on this planet. We've been looking after a 'Seagull' for over a year now, (someone had shot him through his wing) fascinating birds. They see everything in ultra violet light . Out of his natural environment he has never been aggressive,never squawked, but he chuckles, clucks and smiles a lot.. May be someone should take Emmin out of the city and to the cliffs or else be exterminated.....[/p][/quote]I think you have misunderstood something when you say "They see everything in ultra violet light" they do not, they may see the ultra violet part of the spectrum TonyTony
  • Score: 0

4:47pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Poem58 says...

MikeTheKnight wrote:
Emmin wrote:
Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.
You must be a green with that ridiculous comment. SEAgulls live by the sea. Brighton is on the seafront.
Must be a Green? Aren't they into wildlife protection? This is not a subject for scoring political points as it undoubtedly divides opinion across parties.

As for the journo - he probably doesn't have squawking, dirty seagulls living on his roof or he would be joining the majority of local residents demanding that the council do something about it.

And gulls are at epidemic levels now - who hasn't heard of or seen a swooping attack in the street... or someone receive a 'gift from the skies'... or been woken up at 6am by the incessant screeching noise? Why we put up with it is the real question though as seagulls, if discouraged from settling in our town centres would soon learn to go back to their natural habitat, the UK's abundant clifftop areas instead - a happy outcome for both bird AND human.

There's ways of fighting back - coating or replacing the eggs with dummies, gull proofing favorite sites & leaving contraceptive impregnated food on rooftops where they congregate. Doing nothing is simply no longer an option as these large aggressive birds are increasingly becoming a menace.
[quote][p][bold]MikeTheKnight[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Emmin[/bold] wrote: Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.[/p][/quote]You must be a green with that ridiculous comment. SEAgulls live by the sea. Brighton is on the seafront.[/p][/quote]Must be a Green? Aren't they into wildlife protection? This is not a subject for scoring political points as it undoubtedly divides opinion across parties. As for the journo - he probably doesn't have squawking, dirty seagulls living on his roof or he would be joining the majority of local residents demanding that the council do something about it. And gulls are at epidemic levels now - who hasn't heard of or seen a swooping attack in the street... or someone receive a 'gift from the skies'... or been woken up at 6am by the incessant screeching noise? Why we put up with it is the real question though as seagulls, if discouraged from settling in our town centres would soon learn to go back to their natural habitat, the UK's abundant clifftop areas instead - a happy outcome for both bird AND human. There's ways of fighting back - coating or replacing the eggs with dummies, gull proofing favorite sites & leaving contraceptive impregnated food on rooftops where they congregate. Doing nothing is simply no longer an option as these large aggressive birds are increasingly becoming a menace. Poem58
  • Score: -2

4:52pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Libertarian Patriot says...

Bird lovers will not rejoice at being reminded about the massive population increase in herring gulls. These creatures are respsonsible for wiping out the ancinet swallows of Rome, endangering breeching whales off the S American Coast, wiping out entire puffin colonies off Scotland, driving small kittywakes to near extinction in a large number of areas (when was the last time a Brightonian saw a Kittiwake?). They are moving inland in increasing numbers and are responsible for numerous attacks against small animals as well as less important human beings. In the Lewes area gulls wiped out nearly all of last year's ducklings as they predated around our inland ponds and rivers. If this keeps up, we lose our beautiful ducks. If humans were included in the equation (which they are not) , we should be aware that the noise at 4 am disturbs sleep and some people work for a living.

Thankfully, Peter Rock, the world's top gull expert, has been funded to look into the gull population explosion and will be conducting satellite surveys to determine the extent of th eproblem in the UK. Defra's US counterparts have come up with a number of methods to protect the environment and other species including the use of poison that has a very short shelf life to proect other species and the grasslands from being injured by it.

It has taken a long campaign to get Defra to admit there is a problem with gulls and it will probably be another year or so before a new Seabird survey is completed. Numbers were already turning around at the date of the last survey in 2000 and 14 years on, has seen an explosion in numbers--mostly roof nesters.
Bird lovers will not rejoice at being reminded about the massive population increase in herring gulls. These creatures are respsonsible for wiping out the ancinet swallows of Rome, endangering breeching whales off the S American Coast, wiping out entire puffin colonies off Scotland, driving small kittywakes to near extinction in a large number of areas (when was the last time a Brightonian saw a Kittiwake?). They are moving inland in increasing numbers and are responsible for numerous attacks against small animals as well as less important human beings. In the Lewes area gulls wiped out nearly all of last year's ducklings as they predated around our inland ponds and rivers. If this keeps up, we lose our beautiful ducks. If humans were included in the equation (which they are not) , we should be aware that the noise at 4 am disturbs sleep and some people work for a living. Thankfully, Peter Rock, the world's top gull expert, has been funded to look into the gull population explosion and will be conducting satellite surveys to determine the extent of th eproblem in the UK. Defra's US counterparts have come up with a number of methods to protect the environment and other species including the use of poison that has a very short shelf life to proect other species and the grasslands from being injured by it. It has taken a long campaign to get Defra to admit there is a problem with gulls and it will probably be another year or so before a new Seabird survey is completed. Numbers were already turning around at the date of the last survey in 2000 and 14 years on, has seen an explosion in numbers--mostly roof nesters. Libertarian Patriot
  • Score: 1

5:00pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Poem58 says...

jugglingmoonfish wrote:
(From a decent hard working person).Herring Gulls are on the red endangered bird list. Numbers are falling and that's why they are a protective species. They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing, like so many other species on this planet. We've been looking after a 'Seagull' for over a year now, (someone had shot him through his wing) fascinating birds. They see everything in ultra violet light . Out of his natural environment he has never been aggressive,never squawked, but he chuckles, clucks and smiles a lot.. May be someone should take Emmin out of the city and to the cliffs or else be exterminated.....
"They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing"

Nonsense... apart from the Birling Gap where are the clifftops and rocky coastline areas that are dissapearing? The UK is surrounded by Herring Gull friendly dwelling places - take Scotland for example. They don't need to be in Hastings and Brighton town centres for the survival of the species.

People are upset because living in close proximity to these aggressive, dirty and noisy birds can be stressful. can you not see that.
[quote][p][bold]jugglingmoonfish[/bold] wrote: (From a decent hard working person).Herring Gulls are on the red endangered bird list. Numbers are falling and that's why they are a protective species. They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing, like so many other species on this planet. We've been looking after a 'Seagull' for over a year now, (someone had shot him through his wing) fascinating birds. They see everything in ultra violet light . Out of his natural environment he has never been aggressive,never squawked, but he chuckles, clucks and smiles a lot.. May be someone should take Emmin out of the city and to the cliffs or else be exterminated.....[/p][/quote]"They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing" Nonsense... apart from the Birling Gap where are the clifftops and rocky coastline areas that are dissapearing? The UK is surrounded by Herring Gull friendly dwelling places - take Scotland for example. They don't need to be in Hastings and Brighton town centres for the survival of the species. People are upset because living in close proximity to these aggressive, dirty and noisy birds can be stressful. can you not see that. Poem58
  • Score: -4

5:05pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Libertarian Patriot says...

jugglingmoonfish wrote:
(From a decent hard working person).Herring Gulls are on the red endangered bird list. Numbers are falling and that's why they are a protective species. They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing, like so many other species on this planet. We've been looking after a 'Seagull' for over a year now, (someone had shot him through his wing) fascinating birds. They see everything in ultra violet light . Out of his natural environment he has never been aggressive,never squawked, but he chuckles, clucks and smiles a lot.. May be someone should take Emmin out of the city and to the cliffs or else be exterminated.....
The gulls are on the red list based on Seabird 2000--a survey conducted in 1999-2000.

That survey was faulty and overlooked the extent of roof nesters and the fact that there is little interaction among roof nesters and gull sthat inhabit the coast and offshore.

Defra are slowly waking up to the problem as reported in the somewhat extremist Guardian recently:

__


"Controversial herring gull cull gets green light
The environment secretary has ruled that the cull of the endangered sea birds on the Ribble Estuary can go ahead"
http://www.theguardi
an.com/environment/2
013/jun/25/herring-g
ull-cull-green-light
[quote][p][bold]jugglingmoonfish[/bold] wrote: (From a decent hard working person).Herring Gulls are on the red endangered bird list. Numbers are falling and that's why they are a protective species. They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing, like so many other species on this planet. We've been looking after a 'Seagull' for over a year now, (someone had shot him through his wing) fascinating birds. They see everything in ultra violet light . Out of his natural environment he has never been aggressive,never squawked, but he chuckles, clucks and smiles a lot.. May be someone should take Emmin out of the city and to the cliffs or else be exterminated.....[/p][/quote]The gulls are on the red list based on Seabird 2000--a survey conducted in 1999-2000. That survey was faulty and overlooked the extent of roof nesters and the fact that there is little interaction among roof nesters and gull sthat inhabit the coast and offshore. Defra are slowly waking up to the problem as reported in the somewhat extremist Guardian recently: __ "Controversial herring gull cull gets green light The environment secretary has ruled that the cull of the endangered sea birds on the Ribble Estuary can go ahead" http://www.theguardi an.com/environment/2 013/jun/25/herring-g ull-cull-green-light Libertarian Patriot
  • Score: 1

5:19pm Mon 16 Jun 14

s garth says...

andyfm wrote:
And people" PAY" to buy this rubbish paper,with stupid stories like this????
not wanting to defend the article but you, and many of those leaving comments, do seem to be regular online readers. So why not do yourselves a favour and stop reading it?
[quote][p][bold]andyfm[/bold] wrote: And people" PAY" to buy this rubbish paper,with stupid stories like this????[/p][/quote]not wanting to defend the article but you, and many of those leaving comments, do seem to be regular online readers. So why not do yourselves a favour and stop reading it? s garth
  • Score: 5

9:08pm Mon 16 Jun 14

KarenT says...

Emmin wrote:
Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.
Can we drop you off a cliff or have you exterminated?
[quote][p][bold]Emmin[/bold] wrote: Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.[/p][/quote]Can we drop you off a cliff or have you exterminated? KarenT
  • Score: 1

9:10pm Mon 16 Jun 14

KarenT says...

Libertarian Patriot wrote:
Bird lovers will not rejoice at being reminded about the massive population increase in herring gulls. These creatures are respsonsible for wiping out the ancinet swallows of Rome, endangering breeching whales off the S American Coast, wiping out entire puffin colonies off Scotland, driving small kittywakes to near extinction in a large number of areas (when was the last time a Brightonian saw a Kittiwake?). They are moving inland in increasing numbers and are responsible for numerous attacks against small animals as well as less important human beings. In the Lewes area gulls wiped out nearly all of last year's ducklings as they predated around our inland ponds and rivers. If this keeps up, we lose our beautiful ducks. If humans were included in the equation (which they are not) , we should be aware that the noise at 4 am disturbs sleep and some people work for a living.

Thankfully, Peter Rock, the world's top gull expert, has been funded to look into the gull population explosion and will be conducting satellite surveys to determine the extent of th eproblem in the UK. Defra's US counterparts have come up with a number of methods to protect the environment and other species including the use of poison that has a very short shelf life to proect other species and the grasslands from being injured by it.

It has taken a long campaign to get Defra to admit there is a problem with gulls and it will probably be another year or so before a new Seabird survey is completed. Numbers were already turning around at the date of the last survey in 2000 and 14 years on, has seen an explosion in numbers--mostly roof nesters.
zzzzzz......
[quote][p][bold]Libertarian Patriot[/bold] wrote: Bird lovers will not rejoice at being reminded about the massive population increase in herring gulls. These creatures are respsonsible for wiping out the ancinet swallows of Rome, endangering breeching whales off the S American Coast, wiping out entire puffin colonies off Scotland, driving small kittywakes to near extinction in a large number of areas (when was the last time a Brightonian saw a Kittiwake?). They are moving inland in increasing numbers and are responsible for numerous attacks against small animals as well as less important human beings. In the Lewes area gulls wiped out nearly all of last year's ducklings as they predated around our inland ponds and rivers. If this keeps up, we lose our beautiful ducks. If humans were included in the equation (which they are not) , we should be aware that the noise at 4 am disturbs sleep and some people work for a living. Thankfully, Peter Rock, the world's top gull expert, has been funded to look into the gull population explosion and will be conducting satellite surveys to determine the extent of th eproblem in the UK. Defra's US counterparts have come up with a number of methods to protect the environment and other species including the use of poison that has a very short shelf life to proect other species and the grasslands from being injured by it. It has taken a long campaign to get Defra to admit there is a problem with gulls and it will probably be another year or so before a new Seabird survey is completed. Numbers were already turning around at the date of the last survey in 2000 and 14 years on, has seen an explosion in numbers--mostly roof nesters.[/p][/quote]zzzzzz...... KarenT
  • Score: -4

11:24pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Nellie's Grandson says...

Some people need to get a life. Seagulls live by the sea. Brighton is by the sea. They should be living by the sea on cliffs, Brighton is by the cliffs. I live on Marine Parade, I don't hear them, much as I don't hear the traffic or the drunks on a Sunday morning. Stop fretting about something that you cannot change and is not actually harming you. People are disease ridden, scavengers that often defecate where others would rather they did not and whilst we might not usually eat ducklings, we eat most other animals. There are far worse things than a few too many birds, that make a bit of noise from time to time, such as the disgusting human beings that are murdering people throughout the middle east, in the name of their God, that is worth getting in a stew about, not a few birds trying to live their lives. For the record, outside my bedroom window there are currently two baby seagulls, with a doting mother, who returns year after year to bring her offspring up, they do no harm and the mother probably provides a useful public service cleaning the streets up of the filth that is deposited on them by street grazers.
Some people need to get a life. Seagulls live by the sea. Brighton is by the sea. They should be living by the sea on cliffs, Brighton is by the cliffs. I live on Marine Parade, I don't hear them, much as I don't hear the traffic or the drunks on a Sunday morning. Stop fretting about something that you cannot change and is not actually harming you. People are disease ridden, scavengers that often defecate where others would rather they did not and whilst we might not usually eat ducklings, we eat most other animals. There are far worse things than a few too many birds, that make a bit of noise from time to time, such as the disgusting human beings that are murdering people throughout the middle east, in the name of their God, that is worth getting in a stew about, not a few birds trying to live their lives. For the record, outside my bedroom window there are currently two baby seagulls, with a doting mother, who returns year after year to bring her offspring up, they do no harm and the mother probably provides a useful public service cleaning the streets up of the filth that is deposited on them by street grazers. Nellie's Grandson
  • Score: 6

10:23am Tue 17 Jun 14

Juleyanne says...

jugglingmoonfish wrote:
(From a decent hard working person).Herring Gulls are on the red endangered bird list. Numbers are falling and that's why they are a protective species. They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing, like so many other species on this planet. We've been looking after a 'Seagull' for over a year now, (someone had shot him through his wing) fascinating birds. They see everything in ultra violet light . Out of his natural environment he has never been aggressive,never squawked, but he chuckles, clucks and smiles a lot.. May be someone should take Emmin out of the city and to the cliffs or else be exterminated.....
Well said. Their numbers have reduced by 50% nationally and they are now in the endangered red list - FACT! The reason there appears to be many in B & H is because the highly reduced population is mostly concentrated in the south east coastal areas of the UK. So, we are lucky to have them on our shores as we have a species in serious decline. As for the odd splat on my car, big deal, wash it off, or a few bits of rubbish they pull out the bin, that is down to us to secure it with lids and not leave plastic bags on pavements.
Seagull noise concentrates around breeding season as parents get protective of their young and fledging is an anxious time all round. Dive bombing is only when people get too close to nests and is easily remedied
by holding for example an umbrella, stick above you. Gulls will always go for the highest point. After fledging everything calms down and people need to be a little patient and try and live with nature around them and enjoy natures spectacle.
[quote][p][bold]jugglingmoonfish[/bold] wrote: (From a decent hard working person).Herring Gulls are on the red endangered bird list. Numbers are falling and that's why they are a protective species. They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing, like so many other species on this planet. We've been looking after a 'Seagull' for over a year now, (someone had shot him through his wing) fascinating birds. They see everything in ultra violet light . Out of his natural environment he has never been aggressive,never squawked, but he chuckles, clucks and smiles a lot.. May be someone should take Emmin out of the city and to the cliffs or else be exterminated.....[/p][/quote]Well said. Their numbers have reduced by 50% nationally and they are now in the endangered red list - FACT! The reason there appears to be many in B & H is because the highly reduced population is mostly concentrated in the south east coastal areas of the UK. So, we are lucky to have them on our shores as we have a species in serious decline. As for the odd splat on my car, big deal, wash it off, or a few bits of rubbish they pull out the bin, that is down to us to secure it with lids and not leave plastic bags on pavements. Seagull noise concentrates around breeding season as parents get protective of their young and fledging is an anxious time all round. Dive bombing is only when people get too close to nests and is easily remedied by holding for example an umbrella, stick above you. Gulls will always go for the highest point. After fledging everything calms down and people need to be a little patient and try and live with nature around them and enjoy natures spectacle. Juleyanne
  • Score: 2

10:45am Tue 17 Jun 14

Juleyanne says...

Herring Gulls are amazing parents and I watch the progress of 3 chicks on an adjacent roof. They take turns on the nest after long periods of being rained on, sitting tightly protecting their eggs and young, even in high winds and whatever weather nature throws at them, they never leave the nest.
When chicks hatch, both parents take turns on a never ending hunt for food for their young. Often the parents look thinner and bedraggled as all their efforts are concentrated on rearing their young and protecting their fledglings.
This time is fraught with danger from other predatory birds, traffic and pollution and intolerant people and discarded dangerous rubbish we humans discard such as fishing line and hooks which frequently get embedded in their throats and
cut into their legs and wings causing horrendous injury and death. Lack of suitable food supply such as sand eels due to global warming and overfishing all impact of this magnificent bird and contribute to it's rapid decline. Despite all these threats some survive due to good parenting
and it is all too easy to see these gulls through eyes of intolerance rather
than respecting them for their rightful place in nature and their determination to survive come hell or highwater!
Herring Gulls are amazing parents and I watch the progress of 3 chicks on an adjacent roof. They take turns on the nest after long periods of being rained on, sitting tightly protecting their eggs and young, even in high winds and whatever weather nature throws at them, they never leave the nest. When chicks hatch, both parents take turns on a never ending hunt for food for their young. Often the parents look thinner and bedraggled as all their efforts are concentrated on rearing their young and protecting their fledglings. This time is fraught with danger from other predatory birds, traffic and pollution and intolerant people and discarded dangerous rubbish we humans discard such as fishing line and hooks which frequently get embedded in their throats and cut into their legs and wings causing horrendous injury and death. Lack of suitable food supply such as sand eels due to global warming and overfishing all impact of this magnificent bird and contribute to it's rapid decline. Despite all these threats some survive due to good parenting and it is all too easy to see these gulls through eyes of intolerance rather than respecting them for their rightful place in nature and their determination to survive come hell or highwater! Juleyanne
  • Score: 4

1:37am Wed 18 Jun 14

wippasnapper says...

tekniko wrote:
Are you in the area? Have you spotted any seagulls and their chicks? What do you think? Email letters@theargus.co.

uk, visit theargus.co.uk/lette

rs or write to us with your thoughts
Yes it’s about time we had a cull on seagulls as they are a mannose to people eating there lunch in the open spaces and lets be honest they are becoming more like rats every day ripping open rubbish sacks for an easy meal why go catch it in the sea when all you got to do is spread the human rubbish all over the street for a fest there again why not catch them and eat the “F” er’s after all it paltry meat and seeing them on there backs with there feet in the ear on a plate will be a cackle of laths.
[quote][p][bold]tekniko[/bold] wrote: Are you in the area? Have you spotted any seagulls and their chicks? What do you think? Email letters@theargus.co. uk, visit theargus.co.uk/lette rs or write to us with your thoughts[/p][/quote]Yes it’s about time we had a cull on seagulls as they are a mannose to people eating there lunch in the open spaces and lets be honest they are becoming more like rats every day ripping open rubbish sacks for an easy meal why go catch it in the sea when all you got to do is spread the human rubbish all over the street for a fest there again why not catch them and eat the “F” er’s after all it paltry meat and seeing them on there backs with there feet in the ear on a plate will be a cackle of laths. wippasnapper
  • Score: -3

1:39am Wed 18 Jun 14

wippasnapper says...

Martha Gunn wrote:
My pair have four chicks this year.

Now that is news.

But the Magpies are trying to eat them.
a free meal for the Magpies lucky buggers
[quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: My pair have four chicks this year. Now that is news. But the Magpies are trying to eat them.[/p][/quote]a free meal for the Magpies lucky buggers wippasnapper
  • Score: 1

1:48am Wed 18 Jun 14

wippasnapper says...

Lady Smith wrote:
Emmin wrote:
Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.
If you don't like seagulls, then why live by the sea?
It was their home before it was inhabited by humans - who, of course, leave the rubbish out that they feed on. This wasn't a city, it was a fishing town. It's idiots like you who should leave.
Are but humans used to eat them ooooom maybe we ort to go back to eating them dame suit cheaper then the chickens you get in supermarkets these days and you never know they may well be tastier after rifle-ling through our rubbish on a daily basses and it will keep there numbers down lol
[quote][p][bold]Lady Smith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Emmin[/bold] wrote: Disease carrying trash spreading noisy virmin. Keeping decent people awake all night long squarking. They don't belong in cities, take them to the cliffs or else have them exterminated.[/p][/quote]If you don't like seagulls, then why live by the sea? It was their home before it was inhabited by humans - who, of course, leave the rubbish out that they feed on. This wasn't a city, it was a fishing town. It's idiots like you who should leave.[/p][/quote]Are but humans used to eat them ooooom maybe we ort to go back to eating them dame suit cheaper then the chickens you get in supermarkets these days and you never know they may well be tastier after rifle-ling through our rubbish on a daily basses and it will keep there numbers down lol wippasnapper
  • Score: 0

1:52am Wed 18 Jun 14

wippasnapper says...

tekniko wrote:
Preyrun wrote:
Brighton without the sound of seagulls would not be Brighton,I love them and there attitude,the sound of seagulls does not register with true Brightonians in the same way that people who live by a railway grow used to the sound of trains.
There is a lot I could say, but I can't be bothered.
eat the vermin haaaaaaaaaaaa
[quote][p][bold]tekniko[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Preyrun[/bold] wrote: Brighton without the sound of seagulls would not be Brighton,I love them and there attitude,the sound of seagulls does not register with true Brightonians in the same way that people who live by a railway grow used to the sound of trains.[/p][/quote]There is a lot I could say, but I can't be bothered.[/p][/quote]eat the vermin haaaaaaaaaaaa wippasnapper
  • Score: -1

2:22am Wed 18 Jun 14

Poem58 says...

Juleyanne wrote:
jugglingmoonfish wrote:
(From a decent hard working person).Herring Gulls are on the red endangered bird list. Numbers are falling and that's why they are a protective species. They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing, like so many other species on this planet. We've been looking after a 'Seagull' for over a year now, (someone had shot him through his wing) fascinating birds. They see everything in ultra violet light . Out of his natural environment he has never been aggressive,never squawked, but he chuckles, clucks and smiles a lot.. May be someone should take Emmin out of the city and to the cliffs or else be exterminated.....
Well said. Their numbers have reduced by 50% nationally and they are now in the endangered red list - FACT! The reason there appears to be many in B & H is because the highly reduced population is mostly concentrated in the south east coastal areas of the UK. So, we are lucky to have them on our shores as we have a species in serious decline. As for the odd splat on my car, big deal, wash it off, or a few bits of rubbish they pull out the bin, that is down to us to secure it with lids and not leave plastic bags on pavements.
Seagull noise concentrates around breeding season as parents get protective of their young and fledging is an anxious time all round. Dive bombing is only when people get too close to nests and is easily remedied
by holding for example an umbrella, stick above you. Gulls will always go for the highest point. After fledging everything calms down and people need to be a little patient and try and live with nature around them and enjoy natures spectacle.
You didn't address the noise, aggression and filth aspects of these charming creatures behaviour.

As for numbers dropping - where do you live? They're at epidemic levels in the south east, and as far inland as Gloucester and Manchester now.

In fact everywhere except the cliff tops and rugged coastal terrain they should be inhabiting.
[quote][p][bold]Juleyanne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jugglingmoonfish[/bold] wrote: (From a decent hard working person).Herring Gulls are on the red endangered bird list. Numbers are falling and that's why they are a protective species. They are in land more because their natural habitat conditions are disappearing, like so many other species on this planet. We've been looking after a 'Seagull' for over a year now, (someone had shot him through his wing) fascinating birds. They see everything in ultra violet light . Out of his natural environment he has never been aggressive,never squawked, but he chuckles, clucks and smiles a lot.. May be someone should take Emmin out of the city and to the cliffs or else be exterminated.....[/p][/quote]Well said. Their numbers have reduced by 50% nationally and they are now in the endangered red list - FACT! The reason there appears to be many in B & H is because the highly reduced population is mostly concentrated in the south east coastal areas of the UK. So, we are lucky to have them on our shores as we have a species in serious decline. As for the odd splat on my car, big deal, wash it off, or a few bits of rubbish they pull out the bin, that is down to us to secure it with lids and not leave plastic bags on pavements. Seagull noise concentrates around breeding season as parents get protective of their young and fledging is an anxious time all round. Dive bombing is only when people get too close to nests and is easily remedied by holding for example an umbrella, stick above you. Gulls will always go for the highest point. After fledging everything calms down and people need to be a little patient and try and live with nature around them and enjoy natures spectacle.[/p][/quote]You didn't address the noise, aggression and filth aspects of these charming creatures behaviour. As for numbers dropping - where do you live? They're at epidemic levels in the south east, and as far inland as Gloucester and Manchester now. In fact everywhere except the cliff tops and rugged coastal terrain they should be inhabiting. Poem58
  • Score: -1

9:10am Wed 18 Jun 14

Juleyanne says...

What a dingbat, perhaps you should re-read my comments, I did address all points! I explained why quite clearly there are a concentration in the south east but nationally their numbers have rapidly declined. I mentioned about what may appear to the intolerant as aggression is actually protection of their chicks and nests and I also pointed out that occasionally my car gets the odd splat and I simply wipe it off, no big deal. It is a myth that Herring Gulls should and in the past have nested on clifftops. They are indeed seabirds and nest in proximity to the sea as a general rule, be that rooftops or otherwise. Kittiwakes however tend to be cliff dwellers.
There are black back gulls, black headed gulls, herring gulls, fulmers
and some get them mixed up! The Herring Gull would not be on the 'red' list of endangered seabirds if it was not in trouble. What may appear to you as an over population problem is not at all true and statistics by the RSPB and other experts prove otherwise.
What a dingbat, perhaps you should re-read my comments, I did address all points! I explained why quite clearly there are a concentration in the south east but nationally their numbers have rapidly declined. I mentioned about what may appear to the intolerant as aggression is actually protection of their chicks and nests and I also pointed out that occasionally my car gets the odd splat and I simply wipe it off, no big deal. It is a myth that Herring Gulls should and in the past have nested on clifftops. They are indeed seabirds and nest in proximity to the sea as a general rule, be that rooftops or otherwise. Kittiwakes however tend to be cliff dwellers. There are black back gulls, black headed gulls, herring gulls, fulmers and some get them mixed up! The Herring Gull would not be on the 'red' list of endangered seabirds if it was not in trouble. What may appear to you as an over population problem is not at all true and statistics by the RSPB and other experts prove otherwise. Juleyanne
  • Score: 2

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