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Caroline Lucas gives backing to pro medicinal cannabis group

The Argus: Clark French of Brighton suffers from MS and  uses cannabis to relieve the pain Clark French of Brighton suffers from MS and uses cannabis to relieve the pain

A MEDICAL alliance supporting the use of medicinal cannabis has received the backing of a Brighton MP.

Caroline Lucas, MP for Brighton Pavilion, will be one of the guest speakers at the United Patients Alliance launch night in Brighton.

At the top of the agenda will be a discussion of cannabis as a medicine.

Organiser of the event, Clark French, was diagnosed with MS in 2010.

Mr French revealed that since he has been taking cannabis, his pain, tremors and spasms have been reduced and he no longer has bladder problems.

He said: “It’s been absolutely life changing, I’ve gone from being bed-bound to walking. I’m not cured but my life is considerably better.”

Mr French also stated that the main goal of the United Patients Alliance was to promote medical cannabis, and draw a line between medical and recreational use.

There are currently a lot of groups promoting cannabis use but the United Patients Alliance will be the first to promote it as purely a medicine.

Ms Lucas said: “It’s vital that drugs policy is driven by an evidence based approach and I look forward to hearing more about the evidence about the medicinal benefits of cannabis, which has looked at the experience of some states in the US, where there has been regulated supply to meet medical need under strict regulation.”

One of the guest speakers at the event will also be former government adviser, Professor David Nutt.

Prof Nutt has previously campaigned for the decriminalisation of all drugs and Dutch style cannabis cafés, which he believes would lower the nation’s alcohol problem.

The launch night will also feature testimonials from other medical cannabis patients on how the drug has improved their quality of life.

The event is being held at the Brighthelm Centre on North Road on July 17 at 7.30pm and anyone is welcome to attend.

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2:27pm Wed 25 Jun 14

rolivan says...

Would this have been reported if Dr Lucas wasn't Attending?
Would this have been reported if Dr Lucas wasn't Attending? rolivan
  • Score: 29

2:53pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Joshiman says...

"Ms Lucas said: “It’s vital that drugs policy is driven by an evidence based approach and I look forward to hearing more about the evidence about the medicinal benefits of cannabis,"

Synthetic cannabinoids Nabilone and Dronabinol are officially licensed for use in MS and other spastic disorders.
"Ms Lucas said: “It’s vital that drugs policy is driven by an evidence based approach and I look forward to hearing more about the evidence about the medicinal benefits of cannabis," Synthetic cannabinoids Nabilone and Dronabinol are officially licensed for use in MS and other spastic disorders. Joshiman
  • Score: -8

3:15pm Wed 25 Jun 14

NickBrt says...

Does this woman ever talk about anything other than cannabis, page 3 and fracking? Does she have even the slightest clue about her constituents are managing on ordinary mattery such as housing, pay, pensions, NHS etc?
Does this woman ever talk about anything other than cannabis, page 3 and fracking? Does she have even the slightest clue about her constituents are managing on ordinary mattery such as housing, pay, pensions, NHS etc? NickBrt
  • Score: -64

3:30pm Wed 25 Jun 14

ThinkBrighton says...

Has she moved on to crystal meth? or does it just seem that way.
Has she moved on to crystal meth? or does it just seem that way. ThinkBrighton
  • Score: -84

3:34pm Wed 25 Jun 14

her professional says...

NickBrt wrote:
Does this woman ever talk about anything other than cannabis, page 3 and fracking? Does she have even the slightest clue about her constituents are managing on ordinary mattery such as housing, pay, pensions, NHS etc?
People with MS, amongst other diseases, are her constituents as well as people who just go on and on about bus and cycle lanes and parking.
If you read her statement it it seems perfectly logical that as an MP she gets acquainted with the evidence and listens to the arguments from people who have benefitted from medicinal use of cannabis. If you want rent a gob knee-jerk statements on parking, travellers etc go to Mike Weatherly or Dawn Bartlett,, it's your choice.
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: Does this woman ever talk about anything other than cannabis, page 3 and fracking? Does she have even the slightest clue about her constituents are managing on ordinary mattery such as housing, pay, pensions, NHS etc?[/p][/quote]People with MS, amongst other diseases, are her constituents as well as people who just go on and on about bus and cycle lanes and parking. If you read her statement it it seems perfectly logical that as an MP she gets acquainted with the evidence and listens to the arguments from people who have benefitted from medicinal use of cannabis. If you want rent a gob knee-jerk statements on parking, travellers etc go to Mike Weatherly or Dawn Bartlett,, it's your choice. her professional
  • Score: 62

3:36pm Wed 25 Jun 14

her professional says...

rolivan wrote:
Would this have been reported if Dr Lucas wasn't Attending?
Possibly not, so for the sake of MS sufferers and others, it's a good thing that she is.
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: Would this have been reported if Dr Lucas wasn't Attending?[/p][/quote]Possibly not, so for the sake of MS sufferers and others, it's a good thing that she is. her professional
  • Score: 69

3:39pm Wed 25 Jun 14

NickBrt says...

Is there a drug that alleviates Lucas irritation syndrome?
Is there a drug that alleviates Lucas irritation syndrome? NickBrt
  • Score: -60

3:43pm Wed 25 Jun 14

her professional says...

NickBrt wrote:
Is there a drug that alleviates Lucas irritation syndrome?
Cannabis would probably fit the bill nicely, why not chill out.
BTW she has spoken out passionately about the stealthy privatisation of the NHS, as well as on education and public transport, just google her if you can be arsed and it's all there.
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: Is there a drug that alleviates Lucas irritation syndrome?[/p][/quote]Cannabis would probably fit the bill nicely, why not chill out. BTW she has spoken out passionately about the stealthy privatisation of the NHS, as well as on education and public transport, just google her if you can be arsed and it's all there. her professional
  • Score: 79

3:45pm Wed 25 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

NickBrt wrote:
Is there a drug that alleviates Lucas irritation syndrome?
Mr French might be able to offer guidance on that.
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: Is there a drug that alleviates Lucas irritation syndrome?[/p][/quote]Mr French might be able to offer guidance on that. stevo!!
  • Score: 0

4:19pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Goldenwight says...

Caroline Lucas is offering her support? Well that's the kiss of death for that campaign then...
Caroline Lucas is offering her support? Well that's the kiss of death for that campaign then... Goldenwight
  • Score: -67

4:28pm Wed 25 Jun 14

NickBrt says...

Dear goldenwright, her professional will be on you like a ton of bricks for criticising saint Caroline of Balcombe!
Dear goldenwright, her professional will be on you like a ton of bricks for criticising saint Caroline of Balcombe! NickBrt
  • Score: -18

5:08pm Wed 25 Jun 14

G Wiley says...

So according or Ms. Lucas "It’s vital that drugs policy is driven by an evidence based approach"! Is this same approach she uses to justify her belief in homeopathic quackery? Or her claims that fracking poisons water supplies?

If only she campaigned for a SCIENCE based approach, or even better for 'RANDOMISED TRIALS' with use of placebos, to ensure that a treatment really does in fact lead to the desired effect.

As it is an EVIDENCE based approach leads to just a plausible cause being used when none really exists - exactly the way quack science like homeopathy, water divining, astrology and crystal magic get's accepted by some.

Perhaps if Ms. Lucas had studied a scientific subject at university rather than writing a thesis on feminism for her English PhD, then perhaps she could talk on these subjects based upon some real knowledge and competence.
So according or Ms. Lucas "It’s vital that drugs policy is driven by an evidence based approach"! Is this same approach she uses to justify her belief in homeopathic quackery? Or her claims that fracking poisons water supplies? If only she campaigned for a SCIENCE based approach, or even better for 'RANDOMISED TRIALS' with use of placebos, to ensure that a treatment really does in fact lead to the desired effect. As it is an EVIDENCE based approach leads to just a plausible cause being used when none really exists - exactly the way quack science like homeopathy, water divining, astrology and crystal magic get's accepted by some. Perhaps if Ms. Lucas had studied a scientific subject at university rather than writing a thesis on feminism for her English PhD, then perhaps she could talk on these subjects based upon some real knowledge and competence. G Wiley
  • Score: -71

5:49pm Wed 25 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

So Lucas isn't really a doctor?

I wondered why she appeared so stupid.
So Lucas isn't really a doctor? I wondered why she appeared so stupid. stevo!!
  • Score: -72

5:55pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Plantpot says...

There is a drug available in the UK specifically for MS sufferers that is govt. licensed. It is derived from medicinal cannabis. It is not a spliff, but a liquid. All the pain relief benefits without any other side effects. Surprised this hasn't been mentioned. There are significant differences between cannabis grown for medical use and recreational use.
There is a drug available in the UK specifically for MS sufferers that is govt. licensed. It is derived from medicinal cannabis. It is not a spliff, but a liquid. All the pain relief benefits without any other side effects. Surprised this hasn't been mentioned. There are significant differences between cannabis grown for medical use and recreational use. Plantpot
  • Score: -3

6:08pm Wed 25 Jun 14

gozogull says...

I wonder if Dr Lucas will stand for Brighton MP next year. Probably not, she'll probably be joining JK.
Last green out please turn the lights off.
Hooray!
I wonder if Dr Lucas will stand for Brighton MP next year. Probably not, she'll probably be joining JK. Last green out please turn the lights off. Hooray! gozogull
  • Score: -65

6:09pm Wed 25 Jun 14

NickBrt says...

But Plant pot if our mp championed what you are describing it wouldn't get her sdomych press coverage.
But Plant pot if our mp championed what you are describing it wouldn't get her sdomych press coverage. NickBrt
  • Score: -44

6:27pm Wed 25 Jun 14

s1nnah says...

Joshiman wrote:
"Ms Lucas said: “It’s vital that drugs policy is driven by an evidence based approach and I look forward to hearing more about the evidence about the medicinal benefits of cannabis,"

Synthetic cannabinoids Nabilone and Dronabinol are officially licensed for use in MS and other spastic disorders.
oh so we need to have synthetic cannabis do we? god forbid people would actually prefer to put a plant in their bodies and not some crap made in a lab by companies that create customers not cures.

Cannabis as a medicine only works as a whole. not by extracting components and then synthesizing an 'alternative'. why do you think sativex works so well? because it is nothing more than a WHOLE PLANT tincture
[quote][p][bold]Joshiman[/bold] wrote: "Ms Lucas said: “It’s vital that drugs policy is driven by an evidence based approach and I look forward to hearing more about the evidence about the medicinal benefits of cannabis," Synthetic cannabinoids Nabilone and Dronabinol are officially licensed for use in MS and other spastic disorders.[/p][/quote]oh so we need to have synthetic cannabis do we? god forbid people would actually prefer to put a plant in their bodies and not some crap made in a lab by companies that create customers not cures. Cannabis as a medicine only works as a whole. not by extracting components and then synthesizing an 'alternative'. why do you think sativex works so well? because it is nothing more than a WHOLE PLANT tincture s1nnah
  • Score: 83

6:30pm Wed 25 Jun 14

We love Red Billy says...

One more nail in the Green coffin. Keep going chaps #politicalchamberpot
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One more nail in the Green coffin. Keep going chaps #politicalchamberpot s We love Red Billy
  • Score: -60

7:13pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Roundbill says...

Eugenius Kitcat and Hugh Jarrs-Littman are uncommonly quiet in these pages so far this week: maybe they've gone to Glastonbury to do some bonding...
Eugenius Kitcat and Hugh Jarrs-Littman are uncommonly quiet in these pages so far this week: maybe they've gone to Glastonbury to do some bonding... Roundbill
  • Score: -21

8:21pm Wed 25 Jun 14

G Wiley says...

s1nnah wrote:
Joshiman wrote:
"Ms Lucas said: “It’s vital that drugs policy is driven by an evidence based approach and I look forward to hearing more about the evidence about the medicinal benefits of cannabis,"

Synthetic cannabinoids Nabilone and Dronabinol are officially licensed for use in MS and other spastic disorders.
oh so we need to have synthetic cannabis do we? god forbid people would actually prefer to put a plant in their bodies and not some crap made in a lab by companies that create customers not cures.

Cannabis as a medicine only works as a whole. not by extracting components and then synthesizing an 'alternative'. why do you think sativex works so well? because it is nothing more than a WHOLE PLANT tincture
@s1nnah - "Cannabis as a medicine only works as a whole. not by extracting components" - this strikes me as even more of a reason why this treatment needs proper scientific analysis to identify the actual component(s) that provide the relief.

Otherwise we would still be chewing willow-bark instead of taking aspirin for headaches originally, and now for blood thinning..

Apparently 'Sativex' which is a trade name for 'Nabiximols' is a tincture of cannabis (not the whole plant) used as a mouth spray. There are two principal active cannabinoid components: tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabidiol (CBD). As such it looks like there is, potentially, a way to manufacture this 'crap' in a lab rather then extract it directly from plants.

And does putting a plant in your body without real analysis automatically mean it is safe? What about deadly nightshade (belladonna)? Lethal in large doses but regularly used for pupil dilation in eye examinations.
[quote][p][bold]s1nnah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joshiman[/bold] wrote: "Ms Lucas said: “It’s vital that drugs policy is driven by an evidence based approach and I look forward to hearing more about the evidence about the medicinal benefits of cannabis," Synthetic cannabinoids Nabilone and Dronabinol are officially licensed for use in MS and other spastic disorders.[/p][/quote]oh so we need to have synthetic cannabis do we? god forbid people would actually prefer to put a plant in their bodies and not some crap made in a lab by companies that create customers not cures. Cannabis as a medicine only works as a whole. not by extracting components and then synthesizing an 'alternative'. why do you think sativex works so well? because it is nothing more than a WHOLE PLANT tincture[/p][/quote]@s1nnah - "Cannabis as a medicine only works as a whole. not by extracting components" - this strikes me as even more of a reason why this treatment needs proper scientific analysis to identify the actual component(s) that provide the relief. Otherwise we would still be chewing willow-bark instead of taking aspirin for headaches originally, and now for blood thinning.. Apparently 'Sativex' which is a trade name for 'Nabiximols' is a tincture of cannabis (not the whole plant) used as a mouth spray. There are two principal active cannabinoid components: tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabidiol (CBD). As such it looks like there is, potentially, a way to manufacture this 'crap' in a lab rather then extract it directly from plants. And does putting a plant in your body without real analysis automatically mean it is safe? What about deadly nightshade (belladonna)? Lethal in large doses but regularly used for pupil dilation in eye examinations. G Wiley
  • Score: -68

8:45pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Fight_Back says...

Plantpot wrote:
There is a drug available in the UK specifically for MS sufferers that is govt. licensed. It is derived from medicinal cannabis. It is not a spliff, but a liquid. All the pain relief benefits without any other side effects. Surprised this hasn't been mentioned. There are significant differences between cannabis grown for medical use and recreational use.
My Aunt has had MS for nearly 15 years and she tried this drug - didn't do a thing for her. Cannabis does. Sadly her children - all high ranking professionals ( Army officer, vet and teacher ) risk prosecution to ensure she has an adequate supply. It's about time the British establishment and public stopped making people suffer due to some phobia over how bad cannabis is.
[quote][p][bold]Plantpot[/bold] wrote: There is a drug available in the UK specifically for MS sufferers that is govt. licensed. It is derived from medicinal cannabis. It is not a spliff, but a liquid. All the pain relief benefits without any other side effects. Surprised this hasn't been mentioned. There are significant differences between cannabis grown for medical use and recreational use.[/p][/quote]My Aunt has had MS for nearly 15 years and she tried this drug - didn't do a thing for her. Cannabis does. Sadly her children - all high ranking professionals ( Army officer, vet and teacher ) risk prosecution to ensure she has an adequate supply. It's about time the British establishment and public stopped making people suffer due to some phobia over how bad cannabis is. Fight_Back
  • Score: 84

8:54pm Wed 25 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

Ooooh! What's this? Moanerati split on cannabis use!

Personally, if people suffering from MS get some relief by use of cannabis, then I am not going to stop them.
Ooooh! What's this? Moanerati split on cannabis use! Personally, if people suffering from MS get some relief by use of cannabis, then I am not going to stop them. HJarrs
  • Score: 69

8:56pm Wed 25 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

NickBrt wrote:
Does this woman ever talk about anything other than cannabis, page 3 and fracking? Does she have even the slightest clue about her constituents are managing on ordinary mattery such as housing, pay, pensions, NHS etc?
Yes, and you have spent the last 4 years moaning on that she does. Does Weatherly do anything other than go on about squatting or Kirby jump on any bandwagon? Nope.
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: Does this woman ever talk about anything other than cannabis, page 3 and fracking? Does she have even the slightest clue about her constituents are managing on ordinary mattery such as housing, pay, pensions, NHS etc?[/p][/quote]Yes, and you have spent the last 4 years moaning on that she does. Does Weatherly do anything other than go on about squatting or Kirby jump on any bandwagon? Nope. HJarrs
  • Score: 52

9:08pm Wed 25 Jun 14

G Wiley says...

HJarrs wrote:
Ooooh! What's this? Moanerati split on cannabis use!

Personally, if people suffering from MS get some relief by use of cannabis, then I am not going to stop them.
No - actually a chance to discuss a subject without a green fanboy spreading misinformation and sycophantically supporting whatever a green councillor or MP says!

And as usual you are adding little value to the discussion and just returning to making juvenile insults, reducing the value of any 'personal' view you make to that one night expect from a naïve simpleton.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Ooooh! What's this? Moanerati split on cannabis use! Personally, if people suffering from MS get some relief by use of cannabis, then I am not going to stop them.[/p][/quote]No - actually a chance to discuss a subject without a green fanboy spreading misinformation and sycophantically supporting whatever a green councillor or MP says! And as usual you are adding little value to the discussion and just returning to making juvenile insults, reducing the value of any 'personal' view you make to that one night expect from a naïve simpleton. G Wiley
  • Score: -67

9:08pm Wed 25 Jun 14

G Wiley says...

HJarrs wrote:
Ooooh! What's this? Moanerati split on cannabis use!

Personally, if people suffering from MS get some relief by use of cannabis, then I am not going to stop them.
No - actually a chance to discuss a subject without a green fanboy spreading misinformation and sycophantically supporting whatever a green councillor or MP says!

And as usual you are adding little value to the discussion and just returning to making juvenile insults, reducing the value of any 'personal' view you make to that one night expect from a naïve simpleton.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Ooooh! What's this? Moanerati split on cannabis use! Personally, if people suffering from MS get some relief by use of cannabis, then I am not going to stop them.[/p][/quote]No - actually a chance to discuss a subject without a green fanboy spreading misinformation and sycophantically supporting whatever a green councillor or MP says! And as usual you are adding little value to the discussion and just returning to making juvenile insults, reducing the value of any 'personal' view you make to that one night expect from a naïve simpleton. G Wiley
  • Score: -65

9:08pm Wed 25 Jun 14

G Wiley says...

HJarrs wrote:
Ooooh! What's this? Moanerati split on cannabis use!

Personally, if people suffering from MS get some relief by use of cannabis, then I am not going to stop them.
No - actually a chance to discuss a subject without a green fanboy spreading misinformation and sycophantically supporting whatever a green councillor or MP says!

And as usual you are adding little value to the discussion and just returning to making juvenile insults, reducing the value of any 'personal' view you make to that one night expect from a naïve simpleton.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Ooooh! What's this? Moanerati split on cannabis use! Personally, if people suffering from MS get some relief by use of cannabis, then I am not going to stop them.[/p][/quote]No - actually a chance to discuss a subject without a green fanboy spreading misinformation and sycophantically supporting whatever a green councillor or MP says! And as usual you are adding little value to the discussion and just returning to making juvenile insults, reducing the value of any 'personal' view you make to that one night expect from a naïve simpleton. G Wiley
  • Score: -54

9:10pm Wed 25 Jun 14

G Wiley says...

Sorry for the triple posting!
Sorry for the triple posting! G Wiley
  • Score: -12

9:28pm Wed 25 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

G Wiley wrote:
Sorry for the triple posting!
You were obviously very excited about handing him his a*rse.
[quote][p][bold]G Wiley[/bold] wrote: Sorry for the triple posting![/p][/quote]You were obviously very excited about handing him his a*rse. stevo!!
  • Score: -37

9:32pm Wed 25 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

G Wiley wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Ooooh! What's this? Moanerati split on cannabis use!

Personally, if people suffering from MS get some relief by use of cannabis, then I am not going to stop them.
No - actually a chance to discuss a subject without a green fanboy spreading misinformation and sycophantically supporting whatever a green councillor or MP says!

And as usual you are adding little value to the discussion and just returning to making juvenile insults, reducing the value of any 'personal' view you make to that one night expect from a naïve simpleton.
Patchy, your idea of a discussion is that you make a comment and then expect everyone to agree and when someone does not, you have a hissy fit.

You may have a problem with people using an illegal drug for pain relief, I am more relaxed on this issue, if it improves their quality of life.
[quote][p][bold]G Wiley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Ooooh! What's this? Moanerati split on cannabis use! Personally, if people suffering from MS get some relief by use of cannabis, then I am not going to stop them.[/p][/quote]No - actually a chance to discuss a subject without a green fanboy spreading misinformation and sycophantically supporting whatever a green councillor or MP says! And as usual you are adding little value to the discussion and just returning to making juvenile insults, reducing the value of any 'personal' view you make to that one night expect from a naïve simpleton.[/p][/quote]Patchy, your idea of a discussion is that you make a comment and then expect everyone to agree and when someone does not, you have a hissy fit. You may have a problem with people using an illegal drug for pain relief, I am more relaxed on this issue, if it improves their quality of life. HJarrs
  • Score: 67

11:06pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Gribbet says...

G Wiley wrote:
Sorry for the triple posting!
That's ok, I don't think many people are likely to read past the first few words of your comment anyway. Nice use of your own juvenile insults btw.
[quote][p][bold]G Wiley[/bold] wrote: Sorry for the triple posting![/p][/quote]That's ok, I don't think many people are likely to read past the first few words of your comment anyway. Nice use of your own juvenile insults btw. Gribbet
  • Score: 69

12:04am Thu 26 Jun 14

brighton bluenose says...

NickBrt wrote:
Is there a drug that alleviates Lucas irritation syndrome?
You really are a sad little man!
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: Is there a drug that alleviates Lucas irritation syndrome?[/p][/quote]You really are a sad little man! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 55

12:05am Thu 26 Jun 14

brighton bluenose says...

stevo!! wrote:
So Lucas isn't really a doctor?

I wondered why she appeared so stupid.
POT! KETTLE! BLACK!
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: So Lucas isn't really a doctor? I wondered why she appeared so stupid.[/p][/quote]POT! KETTLE! BLACK! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 52

9:08am Thu 26 Jun 14

NathanAdler says...

I suggest Lucas goes and lives next to a drug den and smell the filth that omits from within. Whilst KItkat smells of urine and nicotine, druggies have their own nastier aroma.

Lucas is an evil hateful witch. She has no interest in politics other than her own twisted agenda. She has more hate and intolerance than the BNP, NF, EDL, Combat 18 and the English KKK put together.

And anybody who supports her regime of hate is equally as bad.
I suggest Lucas goes and lives next to a drug den and smell the filth that omits from within. Whilst KItkat smells of urine and nicotine, druggies have their own nastier aroma. Lucas is an evil hateful witch. She has no interest in politics other than her own twisted agenda. She has more hate and intolerance than the BNP, NF, EDL, Combat 18 and the English KKK put together. And anybody who supports her regime of hate is equally as bad. NathanAdler
  • Score: -67

9:37am Thu 26 Jun 14

UppityPrimate says...

The point of this whole argument isn't deciding whether it's suitable- the fact that the big pharma companies are bothering to go through the HUGELY- and we're talking millions of pounds and months, years of work- effort involved in getting a drug licensed for medical use and patented -the point is approving the use of the plant for personal medical relief. Sure, we can make it in a lab, big whoop. sure, there's ONE drug licensed here which IF- and this is a gargantuan IF- your GP or consultant is prepared to prescribe you it- will cost the NHS a small fortune per person, and line the pockets of big pharmaceutical concerns, when in fact, +/- some precision, something you can put in a tub of compost, water and leave in a greenhouse, then 4 months later cut up and dry for NO cost to the NHS and minimal cost to you will achieve the same effect- the lessening of suffering which we don't have a viable alternative for that isn't opiate based. Argue semantics all you want, this issue transcends the concerns of the right about pot-smoking college dropouts, this issue is one of human rights.
The point of this whole argument isn't deciding whether it's suitable- the fact that the big pharma companies are bothering to go through the HUGELY- and we're talking millions of pounds and months, years of work- effort involved in getting a drug licensed for medical use and patented -the point is approving the use of the plant for personal medical relief. Sure, we can make it in a lab, big whoop. sure, there's ONE drug licensed here which IF- and this is a gargantuan IF- your GP or consultant is prepared to prescribe you it- will cost the NHS a small fortune per person, and line the pockets of big pharmaceutical concerns, when in fact, +/- some precision, something you can put in a tub of compost, water and leave in a greenhouse, then 4 months later cut up and dry for NO cost to the NHS and minimal cost to you will achieve the same effect- the lessening of suffering which we don't have a viable alternative for that isn't opiate based. Argue semantics all you want, this issue transcends the concerns of the right about pot-smoking college dropouts, this issue is one of human rights. UppityPrimate
  • Score: 87

11:22am Thu 26 Jun 14

paul76 says...

Do you suppose if someone put a bandwagon (a wagon which carries the band in a parade, circus or other entertainment from 1800's USA) outside this meeting, Lucas would actually jump on it?
Do you suppose if someone put a bandwagon (a wagon which carries the band in a parade, circus or other entertainment from 1800's USA) outside this meeting, Lucas would actually jump on it? paul76
  • Score: -35

12:47pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Plantpot says...

UppityPrimate wrote:
The point of this whole argument isn't deciding whether it's suitable- the fact that the big pharma companies are bothering to go through the HUGELY- and we're talking millions of pounds and months, years of work- effort involved in getting a drug licensed for medical use and patented -the point is approving the use of the plant for personal medical relief. Sure, we can make it in a lab, big whoop. sure, there's ONE drug licensed here which IF- and this is a gargantuan IF- your GP or consultant is prepared to prescribe you it- will cost the NHS a small fortune per person, and line the pockets of big pharmaceutical concerns, when in fact, +/- some precision, something you can put in a tub of compost, water and leave in a greenhouse, then 4 months later cut up and dry for NO cost to the NHS and minimal cost to you will achieve the same effect- the lessening of suffering which we don't have a viable alternative for that isn't opiate based. Argue semantics all you want, this issue transcends the concerns of the right about pot-smoking college dropouts, this issue is one of human rights.
This post demonstrates why leaving the subject to popular opinion is a waste of time.
[quote][p][bold]UppityPrimate[/bold] wrote: The point of this whole argument isn't deciding whether it's suitable- the fact that the big pharma companies are bothering to go through the HUGELY- and we're talking millions of pounds and months, years of work- effort involved in getting a drug licensed for medical use and patented -the point is approving the use of the plant for personal medical relief. Sure, we can make it in a lab, big whoop. sure, there's ONE drug licensed here which IF- and this is a gargantuan IF- your GP or consultant is prepared to prescribe you it- will cost the NHS a small fortune per person, and line the pockets of big pharmaceutical concerns, when in fact, +/- some precision, something you can put in a tub of compost, water and leave in a greenhouse, then 4 months later cut up and dry for NO cost to the NHS and minimal cost to you will achieve the same effect- the lessening of suffering which we don't have a viable alternative for that isn't opiate based. Argue semantics all you want, this issue transcends the concerns of the right about pot-smoking college dropouts, this issue is one of human rights.[/p][/quote]This post demonstrates why leaving the subject to popular opinion is a waste of time. Plantpot
  • Score: -58

1:03pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Chris, Jersey says...

Joshiman wrote:
"Ms Lucas said: “It’s vital that drugs policy is driven by an evidence based approach and I look forward to hearing more about the evidence about the medicinal benefits of cannabis,"

Synthetic cannabinoids Nabilone and Dronabinol are officially licensed for use in MS and other spastic disorders.
Isolated synthetic cannabinoids aren't as effective as vaporised or smoked herbal cannabis. This is due to dose titration being different and the fact that synthetics lack the terpenes and flavonoids required for the entourage effect to take hold.
[quote][p][bold]Joshiman[/bold] wrote: "Ms Lucas said: “It’s vital that drugs policy is driven by an evidence based approach and I look forward to hearing more about the evidence about the medicinal benefits of cannabis," Synthetic cannabinoids Nabilone and Dronabinol are officially licensed for use in MS and other spastic disorders.[/p][/quote]Isolated synthetic cannabinoids aren't as effective as vaporised or smoked herbal cannabis. This is due to dose titration being different and the fact that synthetics lack the terpenes and flavonoids required for the entourage effect to take hold. Chris, Jersey
  • Score: 37

1:06pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Chris, Jersey says...

Plantpot wrote:
There is a drug available in the UK specifically for MS sufferers that is govt. licensed. It is derived from medicinal cannabis. It is not a spliff, but a liquid. All the pain relief benefits without any other side effects. Surprised this hasn't been mentioned. There are significant differences between cannabis grown for medical use and recreational use.
You're talking about GW's Sativex, a whole cannabis plant extract. It does indeed have some side effects, it gets users stoned and brings on the munchies. I'll say that again, Sativex IS cannabis, the law is an ****.
[quote][p][bold]Plantpot[/bold] wrote: There is a drug available in the UK specifically for MS sufferers that is govt. licensed. It is derived from medicinal cannabis. It is not a spliff, but a liquid. All the pain relief benefits without any other side effects. Surprised this hasn't been mentioned. There are significant differences between cannabis grown for medical use and recreational use.[/p][/quote]You're talking about GW's Sativex, a whole cannabis plant extract. It does indeed have some side effects, it gets users stoned and brings on the munchies. I'll say that again, Sativex IS cannabis, the law is an ****. Chris, Jersey
  • Score: 33

1:26pm Thu 26 Jun 14

N3TW0RK23 says...

All I know is I have Fibromyalgia, daily chronic muscle pain i wouldn't wish on anyone, like i've been run over by a truck, put on "legal" opiates tramadol that make me sick, and now addicted to, Cannabis Marijuana Sativa has saved my life, its not so much a pain releaver but a pain distractor, and proven anti inflammatory to muscle tissue, It's been hell dealing with Atos and Iain Duncan Smith has made life very tough researching the many disabled suicides, and with just one tiny vaporizer my severe muscle spasms and fibro flare ups cease , also IBS, chronic hickups, painful chest spasms gone in 5 seconds, i have video, and I love humanity, my community in Brighton and it seems Caroline Lucas is the only one who cares about the Disabled and our water tables from being fracked up, so TheGREENParty is my choice, and lastly I am not a CRiMINAL , let grandma grow her weed! You wouldn't want to know just how horrible Arthritis and chronic pain is everyday feeling sick with nausea, please research Rick Simpson - Run From the Cure, CLEAR UK on cannabis and Brighton Cannabis Club on Facebook, much love!
All I know is I have Fibromyalgia, daily chronic muscle pain i wouldn't wish on anyone, like i've been run over by a truck, put on "legal" opiates tramadol that make me sick, and now addicted to, Cannabis Marijuana Sativa has saved my life, its not so much a pain releaver but a pain distractor, and proven anti inflammatory to muscle tissue, It's been hell dealing with Atos and Iain Duncan Smith has made life very tough researching the many disabled suicides, and with just one tiny vaporizer my severe muscle spasms and fibro flare ups cease , also IBS, chronic hickups, painful chest spasms gone in 5 seconds, i have video, and I love humanity, my community in Brighton and it seems Caroline Lucas is the only one who cares about the Disabled and our water tables from being fracked up, so TheGREENParty is my choice, and lastly I am not a CRiMINAL , let grandma grow her weed! You wouldn't want to know just how horrible Arthritis and chronic pain is everyday feeling sick with nausea, please research Rick Simpson - Run From the Cure, CLEAR UK on cannabis and Brighton Cannabis Club on Facebook, much love! N3TW0RK23
  • Score: 36

1:29pm Thu 26 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
NickBrt wrote:
Is there a drug that alleviates Lucas irritation syndrome?
You really are a sad little man!
Ditto.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: Is there a drug that alleviates Lucas irritation syndrome?[/p][/quote]You really are a sad little man![/p][/quote]Ditto. stevo!!
  • Score: -23

1:49pm Thu 26 Jun 14

N3TW0RK23 says...

Sativex costs the Tax payer £530 a month! for one person! We must use the organic natural plant, and we MUST Decriminalize, think of the money the taxpayer would save and the millions that could be saved by police not to mention resources and time the police badly need for much more serious crimes like drunk violent zombies , pedophiles, and burglaries. Hopefully police will only be concentrating on huge grow ops using illegal immageants who are sometimes trapped by a gang. There are about 650 doors kicked off hindges a year across sussex mentally scarring many disabled people with small personal grows, who pay all their bills and dont deal to anyone or steal electricity , we are already fighting daily chronic pain, one of my ills is Compulsive Vomiting Syndrome the acids so strong its claimed many of my teeth, the severe vomiting with regular cluster migraines makes life hell, only cannabis works! We want to help police where we can against the really nasty things that happen in our community and many cant or have been frightened or had their door smashed in for a few plants where coffee comes much higher up on the toxicity and addiction scale.
Sativex costs the Tax payer £530 a month! for one person! We must use the organic natural plant, and we MUST Decriminalize, think of the money the taxpayer would save and the millions that could be saved by police not to mention resources and time the police badly need for much more serious crimes like drunk violent zombies , pedophiles, and burglaries. Hopefully police will only be concentrating on huge grow ops using illegal immageants who are sometimes trapped by a gang. There are about 650 doors kicked off hindges a year across sussex mentally scarring many disabled people with small personal grows, who pay all their bills and dont deal to anyone or steal electricity , we are already fighting daily chronic pain, one of my ills is Compulsive Vomiting Syndrome the acids so strong its claimed many of my teeth, the severe vomiting with regular cluster migraines makes life hell, only cannabis works! We want to help police where we can against the really nasty things that happen in our community and many cant or have been frightened or had their door smashed in for a few plants where coffee comes much higher up on the toxicity and addiction scale. N3TW0RK23
  • Score: 42

3:42pm Thu 26 Jun 14

protestlondon says...

protestlondon.co.uk was the first for medicinal use, where do the press get there facts? from our group a lot more stood up and started campaigning as there was no one fighting for medi use only, excetp us!

mp's supported medicinal use back then too. nothing has changed as there all to scared to stand up in parliament for medi users, as they are to scared of getting sacked for supporting cannabis users!
protestlondon.co.uk was the first for medicinal use, where do the press get there facts? from our group a lot more stood up and started campaigning as there was no one fighting for medi use only, excetp us! mp's supported medicinal use back then too. nothing has changed as there all to scared to stand up in parliament for medi users, as they are to scared of getting sacked for supporting cannabis users! protestlondon
  • Score: 35

11:25pm Fri 27 Jun 14

MasonStorm says...

Silly tart.
Silly tart. MasonStorm
  • Score: -18
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