Brighton and Hove City Council's Conservative group describe the number of people prosecuted for Fly-tipping in the city as 'feeble'

Anger as new figures show just two people prosecuted for Fly-tipping in Brighton and Hove in a year

Anger as new figures show just two people prosecuted for Fly-tipping in Brighton and Hove in a year

First published in News by

A council has prosecuted two people for fly-tipping in the past three years – and nobody in the past 12 months.

The Conservative group on Brighton and Hove City Council is calling on the local authority to take action against what they are describing as a “daily problem”.

Councillor Graham Cox has led the call for greater action after asking for a list of prosecutions at last week’s full council meeting.

Council officers responded by stating just one prosecution had been secured in 2011/12, one in 2012/13 and none in 2013/14.

The Argus asked the council how many reports had been received of fly tipping over the same period. However, they referred the request to the Freedom of Information officer, who has up to 20 working days to reply.

Coun Cox said: “It would be interesting to find out but I think it will be in the thousands. I personally must have reported 50.

“Councillors of all parties receive complaints about fly-tipping on an almost daily basis and it is pretty feeble that the current administration has been only able to mount two prosecutions in the last three years when the problem has been getting worse.”

Coun Cox, whose ward is Westbourne, added: “Some locations are subject to repeated fly-tips and it is therefore a relatively easy matter to mount observations and catch those responsible.

“They should be making examples of a few people and that would put others off doing the same. The punishments for fly tipping can be quite severe.

“They can be quite large fines so it would certainly put others off.”

A council spokesman said it was difficult to bring prosecutions as they rely on witnesses to come forward.

He said: “It’s usually not obvious who has carried out the fly tip. “By their nature fly tippers dump things in secret, typically after dark when there are few or no people about.”

He added that fly tipping next to bins or in alleyways was dealt with quickly and that staff were raising awareness of the issue.

He added: “If people put any items on the pavement for others to pick up and reuse – including electrical items, furniture etc – they are fly tipping.

“These items should be kept on your property and advertised through signs, newspapers or websites.”

Comments (19)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

12:09pm Tue 22 Jul 14

asterixobelix says...

I do wish people wouldn't leave their unwanted items on the pavement to see if anyone else wants them. It's just pure laziness...I personally don't want to live in a slum which is what people who do this create. Have some pride in your surroundings and just put a notice in your window.
I do wish people wouldn't leave their unwanted items on the pavement to see if anyone else wants them. It's just pure laziness...I personally don't want to live in a slum which is what people who do this create. Have some pride in your surroundings and just put a notice in your window. asterixobelix
  • Score: 16

12:30pm Tue 22 Jul 14

calro75 says...

So what's new with the Green administration in Brighton and Hove! Far more preoccupied with ridiculous road schemes, criminalising motorists for minor parking infringements and giving up our parks and green spaces to gypsies. I would think the problem is the Greens have barely noticed anything with the state of rubbish collections in the city. Yet again this is just another in a long list of examples of how inept and useless this party is!
So what's new with the Green administration in Brighton and Hove! Far more preoccupied with ridiculous road schemes, criminalising motorists for minor parking infringements and giving up our parks and green spaces to gypsies. I would think the problem is the Greens have barely noticed anything with the state of rubbish collections in the city. Yet again this is just another in a long list of examples of how inept and useless this party is! calro75
  • Score: 24

12:37pm Tue 22 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Why doesn't Coun Cox have access to the figures The Argus requested?
Why doesn't Coun Cox have access to the figures The Argus requested? stevo!!
  • Score: -6

12:39pm Tue 22 Jul 14

BiggerH says...

asterixobelix wrote:
I do wish people wouldn't leave their unwanted items on the pavement to see if anyone else wants them. It's just pure laziness...I personally don't want to live in a slum which is what people who do this create. Have some pride in your surroundings and just put a notice in your window.
exactly - they may think that putting a hand-written sign on them saying 'please take me home!' means they're some sort of Samaritan, but what it really means is 'I can't be bothered to go to the tip'
[quote][p][bold]asterixobelix[/bold] wrote: I do wish people wouldn't leave their unwanted items on the pavement to see if anyone else wants them. It's just pure laziness...I personally don't want to live in a slum which is what people who do this create. Have some pride in your surroundings and just put a notice in your window.[/p][/quote]exactly - they may think that putting a hand-written sign on them saying 'please take me home!' means they're some sort of Samaritan, but what it really means is 'I can't be bothered to go to the tip' BiggerH
  • Score: 8

1:28pm Tue 22 Jul 14

charlie smirke says...

They could start by prosecuting all the travellers for fly tipping every time they are evicted from their latest illegal encampment.
They could start by prosecuting all the travellers for fly tipping every time they are evicted from their latest illegal encampment. charlie smirke
  • Score: 31

1:52pm Tue 22 Jul 14

s&k says...

Speaks volumes! Disgusting really and sends out the wrong message.
Speaks volumes! Disgusting really and sends out the wrong message. s&k
  • Score: 10

2:20pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Martha Gunn says...

This is unbelievable - well of course it's not.

Caroline and her Council Chums are entirely responsible.

The Council statement is unadulterated Greenspeak intended solely to befuddle us and confuse the issue.

When challenged the Green voting fly-tipping oiks round here claim they are involved in what they call 'community re-cycling' to save the planet.

And now we know that nothing is done about it.
This is unbelievable - well of course it's not. Caroline and her Council Chums are entirely responsible. The Council statement is unadulterated Greenspeak intended solely to befuddle us and confuse the issue. When challenged the Green voting fly-tipping oiks round here claim they are involved in what they call 'community re-cycling' to save the planet. And now we know that nothing is done about it. Martha Gunn
  • Score: 17

3:02pm Tue 22 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

stevo!! wrote:
Why doesn't Coun Cox have access to the figures The Argus requested?
Have you not worked it out yet? Our dear Graham is a green mole set to undermine the Tory attempt to hold Hove and Portslade . Less than 300 days now. #politicalchamberpot
s
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Why doesn't Coun Cox have access to the figures The Argus requested?[/p][/quote]Have you not worked it out yet? Our dear Graham is a green mole set to undermine the Tory attempt to hold Hove and Portslade . Less than 300 days now. #politicalchamberpot s We love Red Billy
  • Score: -1

4:13pm Tue 22 Jul 14

mrs m ward says...

No wonder our council tax bills are so high, f they had the slightest bit
of interest in the tax payers of this area, then they would make sure
we were getting value for OUR money.
No wonder our council tax bills are so high, f they had the slightest bit of interest in the tax payers of this area, then they would make sure we were getting value for OUR money. mrs m ward
  • Score: 3

4:20pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Warren Morgan says...

Things were so much better when the Tories ran the council, 50% better in fact. In 2008 there were 3 prosecutions for fly tipping, and I'm sure they maintained that admirable record, although data for 2009 is "not available".

Conservatives - good at calling for action, bad at actually delivering it.
Things were so much better when the Tories ran the council, 50% better in fact. In 2008 there were 3 prosecutions for fly tipping, and I'm sure they maintained that admirable record, although data for 2009 is "not available". Conservatives - good at calling for action, bad at actually delivering it. Warren Morgan
  • Score: 4

6:40pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Bill in Hanover says...

asterixobelix wrote:
I do wish people wouldn't leave their unwanted items on the pavement to see if anyone else wants them. It's just pure laziness...I personally don't want to live in a slum which is what people who do this create. Have some pride in your surroundings and just put a notice in your window.
I live in an area where there are quite a few student houses and it is usual for them to put various items outside for anyone to take when they are about to leave at the end of term, anything from printers to TV's. You are simply being a little too 'precious' imagining a few items on the pavement coonstitutes ' a slum'
[quote][p][bold]asterixobelix[/bold] wrote: I do wish people wouldn't leave their unwanted items on the pavement to see if anyone else wants them. It's just pure laziness...I personally don't want to live in a slum which is what people who do this create. Have some pride in your surroundings and just put a notice in your window.[/p][/quote]I live in an area where there are quite a few student houses and it is usual for them to put various items outside for anyone to take when they are about to leave at the end of term, anything from printers to TV's. You are simply being a little too 'precious' imagining a few items on the pavement coonstitutes ' a slum' Bill in Hanover
  • Score: -15

6:43pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Bill in Hanover says...

charlie smirke wrote:
They could start by prosecuting all the travellers for fly tipping every time they are evicted from their latest illegal encampment.
You are surely joking, after Kitcat suggested turning our urban spaces into 'traveller friendly areas' where they could set up illegal camps without interference the Council is hardly likely to clamp dpwn on any of their anti-social behaviour.
[quote][p][bold]charlie smirke[/bold] wrote: They could start by prosecuting all the travellers for fly tipping every time they are evicted from their latest illegal encampment.[/p][/quote]You are surely joking, after Kitcat suggested turning our urban spaces into 'traveller friendly areas' where they could set up illegal camps without interference the Council is hardly likely to clamp dpwn on any of their anti-social behaviour. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 3

7:26pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

I beg to differ Bill, I walk through student areas where stuff has been put out and it has included all the food from kitchen cupboards lined up along the top of two old TVs, the cleaning products from a bathroom sat atop two broken kitchen chairs, bags of duvets and broken double beds.
As other posters have said, they are lazy. They could telephone Emmaus or then YMCA and have good items collected and donate the food to food banks but they are too lazy.
The council should take action against this practice as I don't want to live in a dump either and also landlords are now using this practice to dump the contents of their rented properties without having to go to the tip.
It's middle class fly tipping.
I beg to differ Bill, I walk through student areas where stuff has been put out and it has included all the food from kitchen cupboards lined up along the top of two old TVs, the cleaning products from a bathroom sat atop two broken kitchen chairs, bags of duvets and broken double beds. As other posters have said, they are lazy. They could telephone Emmaus or then YMCA and have good items collected and donate the food to food banks but they are too lazy. The council should take action against this practice as I don't want to live in a dump either and also landlords are now using this practice to dump the contents of their rented properties without having to go to the tip. It's middle class fly tipping. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 14

8:35pm Tue 22 Jul 14

NickBrt says...

Apart from the travellers who fly tip on a 247 basis, others who do the same are students, about whom the council will do nothing as they all vote green.
Apart from the travellers who fly tip on a 247 basis, others who do the same are students, about whom the council will do nothing as they all vote green. NickBrt
  • Score: 2

9:30pm Tue 22 Jul 14

NickBtn says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
I beg to differ Bill, I walk through student areas where stuff has been put out and it has included all the food from kitchen cupboards lined up along the top of two old TVs, the cleaning products from a bathroom sat atop two broken kitchen chairs, bags of duvets and broken double beds.
As other posters have said, they are lazy. They could telephone Emmaus or then YMCA and have good items collected and donate the food to food banks but they are too lazy.
The council should take action against this practice as I don't want to live in a dump either and also landlords are now using this practice to dump the contents of their rented properties without having to go to the tip.
It's middle class fly tipping.
I freecycle what I can and drive to the tip with the rest. I wonder now why I bother - there seems no chance of getting caught/prosecuted and explains the tips in alleys from shared houses near me. Contrary to this report the council refuses to remove this rubbish as it is on "private land" as a shared alley....

Students won't get deposit back if they leave items inside the house. Landlords can't take this to the tip for them (as it's not their own waste so would be trade waste/need a licence to carry). So council rules are making clearing near impossible for landlords to clean up after students (even if they wanted to!). Other councils are more pro-active and provide skips in student areas at change over time. Not ideal, but would be better....
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: I beg to differ Bill, I walk through student areas where stuff has been put out and it has included all the food from kitchen cupboards lined up along the top of two old TVs, the cleaning products from a bathroom sat atop two broken kitchen chairs, bags of duvets and broken double beds. As other posters have said, they are lazy. They could telephone Emmaus or then YMCA and have good items collected and donate the food to food banks but they are too lazy. The council should take action against this practice as I don't want to live in a dump either and also landlords are now using this practice to dump the contents of their rented properties without having to go to the tip. It's middle class fly tipping.[/p][/quote]I freecycle what I can and drive to the tip with the rest. I wonder now why I bother - there seems no chance of getting caught/prosecuted and explains the tips in alleys from shared houses near me. Contrary to this report the council refuses to remove this rubbish as it is on "private land" as a shared alley.... Students won't get deposit back if they leave items inside the house. Landlords can't take this to the tip for them (as it's not their own waste so would be trade waste/need a licence to carry). So council rules are making clearing near impossible for landlords to clean up after students (even if they wanted to!). Other councils are more pro-active and provide skips in student areas at change over time. Not ideal, but would be better.... NickBtn
  • Score: 3

10:10pm Tue 22 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Bill in Hanover wrote:
asterixobelix wrote:
I do wish people wouldn't leave their unwanted items on the pavement to see if anyone else wants them. It's just pure laziness...I personally don't want to live in a slum which is what people who do this create. Have some pride in your surroundings and just put a notice in your window.
I live in an area where there are quite a few student houses and it is usual for them to put various items outside for anyone to take when they are about to leave at the end of term, anything from printers to TV's. You are simply being a little too 'precious' imagining a few items on the pavement coonstitutes ' a slum'
Actually, it does.

Such acts bring down an entire area..
[quote][p][bold]Bill in Hanover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asterixobelix[/bold] wrote: I do wish people wouldn't leave their unwanted items on the pavement to see if anyone else wants them. It's just pure laziness...I personally don't want to live in a slum which is what people who do this create. Have some pride in your surroundings and just put a notice in your window.[/p][/quote]I live in an area where there are quite a few student houses and it is usual for them to put various items outside for anyone to take when they are about to leave at the end of term, anything from printers to TV's. You are simply being a little too 'precious' imagining a few items on the pavement coonstitutes ' a slum'[/p][/quote]Actually, it does. Such acts bring down an entire area.. stevo!!
  • Score: -4

11:14pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Levent says...

asterixobelix wrote:
I do wish people wouldn't leave their unwanted items on the pavement to see if anyone else wants them. It's just pure laziness...I personally don't want to live in a slum which is what people who do this create. Have some pride in your surroundings and just put a notice in your window.
Get real. I can't even use a toilet in Brighton without being harrassed by drug addicts or weirdos waiting for a pick up, nor sit in a park without walking through piles of dog sh1t and rubbish...and you want everyone to "put a sign in their windows" lest they advertise their unwanted goods on a pavement?...Tell me Bozo...how's the weather over there in Shangrila?
[quote][p][bold]asterixobelix[/bold] wrote: I do wish people wouldn't leave their unwanted items on the pavement to see if anyone else wants them. It's just pure laziness...I personally don't want to live in a slum which is what people who do this create. Have some pride in your surroundings and just put a notice in your window.[/p][/quote]Get real. I can't even use a toilet in Brighton without being harrassed by drug addicts or weirdos waiting for a pick up, nor sit in a park without walking through piles of dog sh1t and rubbish...and you want everyone to "put a sign in their windows" lest they advertise their unwanted goods on a pavement?...Tell me Bozo...how's the weather over there in Shangrila? Levent
  • Score: -6

7:11am Wed 23 Jul 14

asterixobelix says...

Levent wrote:
asterixobelix wrote:
I do wish people wouldn't leave their unwanted items on the pavement to see if anyone else wants them. It's just pure laziness...I personally don't want to live in a slum which is what people who do this create. Have some pride in your surroundings and just put a notice in your window.
Get real. I can't even use a toilet in Brighton without being harrassed by drug addicts or weirdos waiting for a pick up, nor sit in a park without walking through piles of dog sh1t and rubbish...and you want everyone to "put a sign in their windows" lest they advertise their unwanted goods on a pavement?...Tell me Bozo...how's the weather over there in Shangrila?
Congratulations on resorting to name calling. So what are you doing to help the problem of rubbish and dog excrement? I talk to my neighbours to ask them not put rubbish out on the wrong day and ask people to clean up after their dog. What do you do? Or do you just complain and insult?
[quote][p][bold]Levent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asterixobelix[/bold] wrote: I do wish people wouldn't leave their unwanted items on the pavement to see if anyone else wants them. It's just pure laziness...I personally don't want to live in a slum which is what people who do this create. Have some pride in your surroundings and just put a notice in your window.[/p][/quote]Get real. I can't even use a toilet in Brighton without being harrassed by drug addicts or weirdos waiting for a pick up, nor sit in a park without walking through piles of dog sh1t and rubbish...and you want everyone to "put a sign in their windows" lest they advertise their unwanted goods on a pavement?...Tell me Bozo...how's the weather over there in Shangrila?[/p][/quote]Congratulations on resorting to name calling. So what are you doing to help the problem of rubbish and dog excrement? I talk to my neighbours to ask them not put rubbish out on the wrong day and ask people to clean up after their dog. What do you do? Or do you just complain and insult? asterixobelix
  • Score: 5

10:11pm Wed 23 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

Warren Morgan wrote:
Things were so much better when the Tories ran the council, 50% better in fact. In 2008 there were 3 prosecutions for fly tipping, and I'm sure they maintained that admirable record, although data for 2009 is "not available".

Conservatives - good at calling for action, bad at actually delivering it.
What were the figures under Labour then Warren?!
I can't imagine they were much better but would be happy to see you provide the figures here?
[quote][p][bold]Warren Morgan[/bold] wrote: Things were so much better when the Tories ran the council, 50% better in fact. In 2008 there were 3 prosecutions for fly tipping, and I'm sure they maintained that admirable record, although data for 2009 is "not available". Conservatives - good at calling for action, bad at actually delivering it.[/p][/quote]What were the figures under Labour then Warren?! I can't imagine they were much better but would be happy to see you provide the figures here? brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

Comments are closed on this article.

Send us your news, pictures and videos

Most read stories

Local Info

Enter your postcode, town or place name

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree