Police and Crime Commissioner wants public to decide what punishments to give antisocial behaviour culprits

A vandalised seafront shelter on Seaford Beach

A vandalised seafront shelter on Seaford Beach

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Victims of anti-social behaviour will decide how their tormentors are punished.

Police chiefs are putting together a list of possible punishments for the victims of lower-level crime to choose from.

Louts had better watch out – the public is being asked what should be on the list.

Sussex Police and Crime Commissioner Katy Bourne wants the public to whittle down options including apologising, receiving counselling and litter picking.

People can make their own suggestion for the Community Remedy Document to be published in November.

Victims will be able to choose whether they want to decide the punishment and the police will make sure the punishments are enforced. Mrs Bourne said: “A recent poll on my website showed that anti-social behaviour is a big concern, with littering, drug and alcohol misuse, and inconsiderate driving and parking topping the list of issues local people experience most often.

“‘Community remedy’ is designed to introduce simpler and more effective powers for tackling these lower level crimes.

“It is also designed to provide victims, should they want it, with a say in how an offender will make amends for the matter if the crime warrants an out of court settlement.”

The practice will build on the idea of punishing lower-level offenders outside of the courts, with police often talking to victims about how offenders should be dealt with.

Conservative Councillor Dee Simpson thought it good to give victims a say if they wanted it.

She said: “Some victims possibly would like to be involved and some would not but it is good to be given the chance.

“Even lower-level anti-social behaviour can be quite harassing, especially for older people.”

She added payback remedies had been used for youngsters who damaged the Woodingdean youth centre six months ago.

She said: “We decided that rather than have them criminalised that they should do some community payback.

“So they did litter-picking and all sorts of things and I think that is far more effective.”

Visit sussexpolicesurveys.com/ospcc_scrc/.

You choose...

Options included in the Sussex Community Remedy Document include...

  • Written apology
  • Verbal apology
  • Face-to-face restorative justice conference
  • Shuttle conference (victim and offender talk but don’t meet face-to-face)
  • Repairing damage to property or cleaning graffiti
  • Paying an appropriate amount for repair
  • YOUR VIEWS:
  • Stephen Reeves, 50, of Hove, taxi driver, said: “I suppose it depends what they've done. If it's for anti-social stuff it might work but we could only do it a couple of times before they need to be banged up. I think they should take a couple of days to clean up what they've done.”
  •  John Jensen, 72, of Hove, retired, said: “I think it's a good idea. Realistically, I'd like to see people get a large fine and then be made to clean it all up. Only one in 1,000 people are caught and then they are let off with a warning.”
  • Nicola Driddle, 44, of Fiveways, shopkeeper, said: “I think it could be a good thing, then you've got some control over it. I would make them come and clean up or repair whatever damage they caused and I think they should have to answer to the community.”

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7:01am Wed 30 Jul 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

Can victims choose the needle as an option for the more unpleasant crims?
Can victims choose the needle as an option for the more unpleasant crims? Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: 14

7:03am Wed 30 Jul 14

rogerthefish says...

How about painting Brighton seafront railings all day without a break and no phone to text on.
How about painting Brighton seafront railings all day without a break and no phone to text on. rogerthefish
  • Score: 30

7:34am Wed 30 Jul 14

Douglas Hall says...

So, that's no punishment at all, then.
So, that's no punishment at all, then. Douglas Hall
  • Score: 13

8:13am Wed 30 Jul 14

ThinkBrighton says...

The rack situated outside the Palace Pier, a good punishment and a tourist attraction.
The rack situated outside the Palace Pier, a good punishment and a tourist attraction. ThinkBrighton
  • Score: 17

8:25am Wed 30 Jul 14

NickBrt says...

I can think of all sorts of punishments for noisy students but sadly I don't think all of them would be considered acceptable. Shame.
I can think of all sorts of punishments for noisy students but sadly I don't think all of them would be considered acceptable. Shame. NickBrt
  • Score: 13

9:08am Wed 30 Jul 14

monkeymoo says...

Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........

....That's enough punishment for anyone!
Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........ ....That's enough punishment for anyone! monkeymoo
  • Score: 8

9:22am Wed 30 Jul 14

hubby says...

Why are the "Travellers" who have broken into Carden Park not charged with anti social behaviour?
They have destroyed barriers put there to stop them from trespassing on the park and are occupying land that does not belong to them.
Why are the "Travellers" who have broken into Carden Park not charged with anti social behaviour? They have destroyed barriers put there to stop them from trespassing on the park and are occupying land that does not belong to them. hubby
  • Score: 40

9:24am Wed 30 Jul 14

SmallJamie says...

monkeymoo wrote:
Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........

....That's enough punishment for anyone!
Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle!
[quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........ ....That's enough punishment for anyone![/p][/quote]Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle! SmallJamie
  • Score: -11

9:24am Wed 30 Jul 14

SmallJamie says...

monkeymoo wrote:
Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........

....That's enough punishment for anyone!
Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle!
[quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........ ....That's enough punishment for anyone![/p][/quote]Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle! SmallJamie
  • Score: -10

9:27am Wed 30 Jul 14

SmallJamie says...

Maybe a poster with their name put on. Local name and shame.
Maybe some might take pride in that but family might think different and encourage better behaviour.
Maybe a poster with their name put on. Local name and shame. Maybe some might take pride in that but family might think different and encourage better behaviour. SmallJamie
  • Score: 12

9:28am Wed 30 Jul 14

Ambo Guy says...

SmallJamie wrote:
monkeymoo wrote:
Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........

....That's enough punishment for anyone!
Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle!
But maybe that's just part of the journey he's doing. How do you know the full journey isn't something like Rottingdean to Shoreham?
[quote][p][bold]SmallJamie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........ ....That's enough punishment for anyone![/p][/quote]Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle![/p][/quote]But maybe that's just part of the journey he's doing. How do you know the full journey isn't something like Rottingdean to Shoreham? Ambo Guy
  • Score: 9

9:31am Wed 30 Jul 14

Max Ripple says...

SmallJamie wrote:
monkeymoo wrote:
Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........

....That's enough punishment for anyone!
Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle!
Because he might be on his way from somewhere like Saltdean to Worthing. Ever thought of that?

Because he might be disabled. Ever thought of that?
[quote][p][bold]SmallJamie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........ ....That's enough punishment for anyone![/p][/quote]Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle![/p][/quote]Because he might be on his way from somewhere like Saltdean to Worthing. Ever thought of that? Because he might be disabled. Ever thought of that? Max Ripple
  • Score: 16

9:38am Wed 30 Jul 14

SmallJamie says...

Ambo Guy wrote:
SmallJamie wrote:
monkeymoo wrote:
Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........

....That's enough punishment for anyone!
Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle!
But maybe that's just part of the journey he's doing. How do you know the full journey isn't something like Rottingdean to Shoreham?
Ok... a 45 minute cycle, you lazy people. Better than the hour and a half that it would take.
[quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SmallJamie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........ ....That's enough punishment for anyone![/p][/quote]Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle![/p][/quote]But maybe that's just part of the journey he's doing. How do you know the full journey isn't something like Rottingdean to Shoreham?[/p][/quote]Ok... a 45 minute cycle, you lazy people. Better than the hour and a half that it would take. SmallJamie
  • Score: -15

9:57am Wed 30 Jul 14

ThinkBrighton says...

SmallJamie wrote:
Ambo Guy wrote:
SmallJamie wrote:
monkeymoo wrote:
Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........

....That's enough punishment for anyone!
Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle!
But maybe that's just part of the journey he's doing. How do you know the full journey isn't something like Rottingdean to Shoreham?
Ok... a 45 minute cycle, you lazy people. Better than the hour and a half that it would take.
45 mins is that carrying 160kg of tools and fixings, people still need their vehicles to carry on there daily work, dummy
[quote][p][bold]SmallJamie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SmallJamie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........ ....That's enough punishment for anyone![/p][/quote]Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle![/p][/quote]But maybe that's just part of the journey he's doing. How do you know the full journey isn't something like Rottingdean to Shoreham?[/p][/quote]Ok... a 45 minute cycle, you lazy people. Better than the hour and a half that it would take.[/p][/quote]45 mins is that carrying 160kg of tools and fixings, people still need their vehicles to carry on there daily work, dummy ThinkBrighton
  • Score: 16

10:00am Wed 30 Jul 14

Stoneham Park says...

Make them swim Newhaven-Dieppe.

Give them the choice of December or January.
Make them swim Newhaven-Dieppe. Give them the choice of December or January. Stoneham Park
  • Score: 9

10:16am Wed 30 Jul 14

s&k says...

I suggest they be punished with a night out on West Street or trying to find a parking space in Hanover.
I suggest they be punished with a night out on West Street or trying to find a parking space in Hanover. s&k
  • Score: 5

10:17am Wed 30 Jul 14

charlie smirke says...

hubby wrote:
Why are the "Travellers" who have broken into Carden Park not charged with anti social behaviour?
They have destroyed barriers put there to stop them from trespassing on the park and are occupying land that does not belong to them.
I have often wondered why Travellers are above the laws that apply to everyone else but who in authority, is prepared to provide answers? The issues always seem to be carefully avoided. Even here on the Argus website, we are not allowed to comment on Travellers.
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: Why are the "Travellers" who have broken into Carden Park not charged with anti social behaviour? They have destroyed barriers put there to stop them from trespassing on the park and are occupying land that does not belong to them.[/p][/quote]I have often wondered why Travellers are above the laws that apply to everyone else but who in authority, is prepared to provide answers? The issues always seem to be carefully avoided. Even here on the Argus website, we are not allowed to comment on Travellers. charlie smirke
  • Score: 19

10:51am Wed 30 Jul 14

s&k says...

charlie smirke wrote:
hubby wrote: Why are the "Travellers" who have broken into Carden Park not charged with anti social behaviour? They have destroyed barriers put there to stop them from trespassing on the park and are occupying land that does not belong to them.
I have often wondered why Travellers are above the laws that apply to everyone else but who in authority, is prepared to provide answers? The issues always seem to be carefully avoided. Even here on the Argus website, we are not allowed to comment on Travellers.
It's called Euro/UN legislation. Check out www.infowars.com and get the truth, brother.
[quote][p][bold]charlie smirke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: Why are the "Travellers" who have broken into Carden Park not charged with anti social behaviour? They have destroyed barriers put there to stop them from trespassing on the park and are occupying land that does not belong to them.[/p][/quote]I have often wondered why Travellers are above the laws that apply to everyone else but who in authority, is prepared to provide answers? The issues always seem to be carefully avoided. Even here on the Argus website, we are not allowed to comment on Travellers.[/p][/quote]It's called Euro/UN legislation. Check out www.infowars.com and get the truth, brother. s&k
  • Score: 1

10:59am Wed 30 Jul 14

charlie smirke says...

s&k wrote:
charlie smirke wrote:
hubby wrote: Why are the "Travellers" who have broken into Carden Park not charged with anti social behaviour? They have destroyed barriers put there to stop them from trespassing on the park and are occupying land that does not belong to them.
I have often wondered why Travellers are above the laws that apply to everyone else but who in authority, is prepared to provide answers? The issues always seem to be carefully avoided. Even here on the Argus website, we are not allowed to comment on Travellers.
It's called Euro/UN legislation. Check out www.infowars.com and get the truth, brother.
Thanks, I'll check that out.
[quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charlie smirke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: Why are the "Travellers" who have broken into Carden Park not charged with anti social behaviour? They have destroyed barriers put there to stop them from trespassing on the park and are occupying land that does not belong to them.[/p][/quote]I have often wondered why Travellers are above the laws that apply to everyone else but who in authority, is prepared to provide answers? The issues always seem to be carefully avoided. Even here on the Argus website, we are not allowed to comment on Travellers.[/p][/quote]It's called Euro/UN legislation. Check out www.infowars.com and get the truth, brother.[/p][/quote]Thanks, I'll check that out. charlie smirke
  • Score: 4

12:30pm Wed 30 Jul 14

monkeymoo says...

SmallJamie wrote:
Ambo Guy wrote:
SmallJamie wrote:
monkeymoo wrote:
Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........

....That's enough punishment for anyone!
Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle!
But maybe that's just part of the journey he's doing. How do you know the full journey isn't something like Rottingdean to Shoreham?
Ok... a 45 minute cycle, you lazy people. Better than the hour and a half that it would take.
I'm sure the cycle would be lovely.
But i'm pretty sure the topic of the article is about PUNISHMENT!!

P.s..... I was driving from Seaford to Hove!
[quote][p][bold]SmallJamie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SmallJamie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........ ....That's enough punishment for anyone![/p][/quote]Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle![/p][/quote]But maybe that's just part of the journey he's doing. How do you know the full journey isn't something like Rottingdean to Shoreham?[/p][/quote]Ok... a 45 minute cycle, you lazy people. Better than the hour and a half that it would take.[/p][/quote]I'm sure the cycle would be lovely. But i'm pretty sure the topic of the article is about PUNISHMENT!! P.s..... I was driving from Seaford to Hove! monkeymoo
  • Score: 2

12:41pm Wed 30 Jul 14

jioker says...

monkeymoo wrote:
SmallJamie wrote:
Ambo Guy wrote:
SmallJamie wrote:
monkeymoo wrote:
Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........

....That's enough punishment for anyone!
Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle!
But maybe that's just part of the journey he's doing. How do you know the full journey isn't something like Rottingdean to Shoreham?
Ok... a 45 minute cycle, you lazy people. Better than the hour and a half that it would take.
I'm sure the cycle would be lovely.
But i'm pretty sure the topic of the article is about PUNISHMENT!!

P.s..... I was driving from Seaford to Hove!
understand you monkeymoo.i drive from peacehaven to hove 20 times a week worst route ever.
[quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SmallJamie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SmallJamie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: Make them try to drive from Palace pier to the King Alfred leisure center along the seafront........ ....That's enough punishment for anyone![/p][/quote]Why do you need to drive that...? It's a 5 minute cycle![/p][/quote]But maybe that's just part of the journey he's doing. How do you know the full journey isn't something like Rottingdean to Shoreham?[/p][/quote]Ok... a 45 minute cycle, you lazy people. Better than the hour and a half that it would take.[/p][/quote]I'm sure the cycle would be lovely. But i'm pretty sure the topic of the article is about PUNISHMENT!! P.s..... I was driving from Seaford to Hove![/p][/quote]understand you monkeymoo.i drive from peacehaven to hove 20 times a week worst route ever. jioker
  • Score: 3

10:28pm Wed 30 Jul 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

I think putting them in stocks would be a good idea and people could pay to throw mouldy fruit and veg at them - the money could be used to house the homeless.

Or make them clean up West St - when people have finished puking up.
I think putting them in stocks would be a good idea and people could pay to throw mouldy fruit and veg at them - the money could be used to house the homeless. Or make them clean up West St - when people have finished puking up. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 2

12:35am Thu 31 Jul 14

KarenT says...

Why isn't hanging, drawing and quartering on the list?
Why isn't hanging, drawing and quartering on the list? KarenT
  • Score: 0

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