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Parking wasteland in Brighton

A seafront road that has been at the centre of a parking charges row remained empty yesterday morning (May 17).

Marine Drive at 9.45am on Thursday, May 17 Marine Drive at 9.45am on Thursday, May 17

The Argus photographers snapped Madeira Drive on two separate days.

The first picture was taken at about 1.30pm on a sunny Wednesday and the second was taken at about 9.30am yesterday.

Maderia Drive at 1.30pm on Wednesday, May 16
Madeira Drive at 1.30pm on Wednesday, May 16.

In both pictures the formerly busy bays were mainly empty.

Madeira Drive before the charges were implemented Madeira Drive before the charges were implemented

However Brighton and Hove City Council said the new higher parking tariffs are not putting people off from visiting the seafront.

The daily rate on the road was recently increased from £10 to £20.

But following anger from businesses and residents a new eight-hour tariff for £15 has been proposed in the seafront high zone.

Steve Percy, of the People’s Parking Protest, said not enough is being done to attract tourists to the seafront – although the local authority said during the May bank holiday the Pavilion and Museums saw a 17% increase in visitors.

Mr Percy said: “It just amazes me that the council don’t seem to have any common sense when it comes to the tourist industry.

Empty spaces along Hove Lawns Empty spaces along Hove Lawns

“Madeira Drive is tourist land. All along there are the parts of Brighton that everyone wants to see.”

Bad weather

Councillor Ian Davey, cabinet member for transport and the public realm, said there is “no evidence” that parking charges are putting people off from visiting the city.

He said: “The weather also plays a crucial part in visitor numbers.

“Over the spring period last year the average temperature was 20C, compared with about 11C this year – the average drop in temperature was 8.4C.

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“This has been accompanied by some wet and windy weather.

“Visitors travel to the city in a variety of ways, and as part of the process of introducing previously announced additional tariffs, the council is currently advertising additional seafront tariffs, which will give visitors an affordable day out by the sea.

“There will be a new eight-hour tariff for £15 in the seafront high zone (from west of Yellowave to the Peace Statue), where there is high congestion and pollution.

“Last Saturday Madeira Drive was very busy with people driving up and down looking for spaces.”

He said the council is also proposing a new medium tariff zone on Hove seafront from the Peace Statue to East of Fourth Street, which will be a maximum of £10.

There are also existing low tariff zones on the East and West of the seafront where all-day parking costs £5.

Coun Davey said: “We’ve listened – these adjustments will help us realise our transport vision for a city that will be cleaner and healthier and make it easier to get about for everyone – visitors and residents.”

The council said that where parking remains free it will be understandably busy.

Yesterday, cars were parked bumper to bumper in Clermont Road in Brighton as commuters travel from Preston Park Station.

The problem has got so bad in Springfield Road and Florence Road that residents in the area have asked the council to consult on an extension to the London Road (Area J) parking zone.

Residents in the two roads which are currently exempt from the zone have found their streets choc-a-bloc with cars left by commuters using London Road Station.

The request is due to be consulted on in October, with a scheme implemented for mid-2013, if approved.


Comments (25)

18/05/12

lorrie1 says...

HA,ha,ha. I knew this would happen! Totally backfired on the Council.
whoevers idea this was should be sacked!

18/05/12

mimseycal says...

Ideas are okay .. it is in electing to implement the ideas where the real danger is.

18/05/12

southwicker2 says...

You have to laugh don't you, I wonder how much this is costing the council in lost revenue. I expect the attitude / thinking was hey, those stupid motorists will pay whatever is asked for petrol,so they will obviously pay whatever they are asked for parking...the thing is, there is no alternative to petrol.
I am sure there are many people in positions of power who still believe we all have money to burn...sadly i many cases the opposite is true...just comes down to greed at the end of the day, whucb as lorrie1 has correctly pointed out, seems to have backfired on this occasion!

18/05/12

fred clause says...

Ah Jason and his green cronies doing there best ostrich impressions get your heads out of the sand and realise it needs fixing before its too late to repair the damage £15 is too much put it back to £10 and you might have a chance otherwise Brighton's tourist industry is doomed.

18/05/12

mimseycal says...

The damage will not affect Jason and his verdant chorus

They may well not get re-elected but businesses will have gone out for the count before that happens.

18/05/12

roughsea says...

How many of the council fools have ever had a proper job? Running your own business requires common sense and respect for the customer, rip them of and you loose them. Brighton residents and tourists are not fools and will not pay these charges, the town will suffer!

18/05/12

jamesbandenburg says...

I still can't get my head round why they haven't just totally reversed the charges. Everyone can see straight through putting them up from £10 to £20 then appeasing the complaints by putting it down to £15, still £5 more than it was originally - it's Del Boy economics.

18/05/12

Maxwell's Ghost says...

The bays near the Duke of York Picturehouse were always full but they too were all empty on Saturday, the same in New England Street.
Sadly, £7.00 to park in a filthy back street on a cold wet Wednesday night after 6pm is just silly.
Instead of my wife and I popping out for dinner and a film, we go to the marina or a nice country pub with parking provided.
Now Mr KitKat, we usually walk into Brighton, but on a rotten weekday winter night you need to stimulate trade in the city, but you have just finished it off.

18/05/12

s&k says...

Everyone's parking in the (free) residential streets and then bus/walking in. Hence we have a park and ride by default.

18/05/12

mimseycal says...

That suits the council because the more residents complain about not being able to park in their own streets, the more they can roll out the 'resident parking scheme' with all that lovely jubely money rolling in to their coffers ...

They'll need that to pay the premiums on the 14 mil loan they've taken out for that bloomin' tower won't they ;)

18/05/12

Hard times says...

Town seems busy as always. Perhaps people are (gasp) using public transport?

19/05/12

turtling. says...

this town..... is coming like a ghost town..... aaahhh..aahh.. ffs

19/05/12

greenhousedani says...

From the article: "during the May bank holiday the Pavilion and Museums saw a 17% increase in visitors."

So the effect of the parking charges has not been to decrease visitor numbers to the city, but just to clear parked cars from the beautiful seafront. Sounds OK to me.

19/05/12

mimseycal says...

Sure it sounds okay ... it is only relatively recent that the changes have been introduced.

19/05/12

Reflect on your post says...

You voted them in, you live with their sin
Suckers!

19/05/12

greenhousedani says...

mimseycal wrote:
Sure it sounds okay ... it is only relatively recent that the changes have been introduced.
What do you mean? The charges were introduced before the May bank holiday.

19/05/12

Maxwell's Ghost says...

The increase in visitors to indoor venues may have been due to the dreadful wet weather.
Its fairly clear to see if you go into town and watch what's is actually going on. Fewer people are in shops making transactions, you can always get a table in a city centre restaurant even on a Saturday lunchtime.
Weekday trade is dire and weekday evening restaurants are desolate.
Brighton has more chance of survival due to its popularity but traders will tell you they cannot rely on summer weekend trade for income.
You need to get local people to use parking bays and restaurants and venues out of tourism season.

19/05/12

NickBrt says...

Jason and his motley crew don't care anyway. After a while, or when we vote them out, they'll mosey on down to some other place and start their ruining tactics all over again.

19/05/12

vince m says...

I supported and voted Green at the last election. Friends warned me that the Greens had the political intelligence of the sixth form common room. I honestly wish I had listened. They are destroying the city. Anyone not noticed the time it has taken to build a cycle lane in the Old Shoreham Road? The cost must be colossal, and the disruption to the lives of local people unknowable. It'd be cheaper to give every cyclist a free bus pass. Not kidding.

19/05/12

davyboy says...

i wouldn't pay even £10 to park all day!! no one will pay £20. trouble is, if it is too cheap, then people will stay all day, with no turnover of spaces.a small amount for 2-3 hours, then a large jump to all day should see some spaces freed up on a regular basis. personally, when i visit, i park outside and use the bus.

19/05/12

mimseycal says...

greenhousedani wrote:
mimseycal wrote:
Sure it sounds okay ... it is only relatively recent that the changes have been introduced.
What do you mean? The charges were introduced before the May bank holiday.
Yes dear ... May 2012 ... we still are in May 2012 hence the terms relatively recently ;)

19/05/12

RickH says...

How about sme photos showing the same bays at a weekend or during the school holidays ie times when demand for parking is higher and people arenb't at school or work?

19/05/12

Wendywoodlandh says...

Oh dear mr kitkat you off all people that if you have family with 2-4 children ,you think were to park if at all ,or bus / walk to were you like to take them for an ,because it will all cost ££££ so to add your parking ticket is a NO

19/05/12

greenhousedani says...

I cycled past this spot today at 3pm. Every parking bay was full.

09/06/12

Ric Hanmer says...

Its not just the visitors that are suffering, it now affects all residents that want to go into town to shop. Just popping down to London Rd is too expensive now and the bus is no cheaper so what do you do, go to Asda etc.

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