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Are people nicer in Brighton?

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After having lived in London for so many years I would say that yes – generally people are nicer down here than in the capital. Could it be the sea air? OK maybe its not all sunshine and roses, there are always exceptions to the rule and am sure that I am seeing things through rose-tinted specs being new to the area, but let me give you some examples…

Bus drivers talk to you, some even let you travel for free if the sun is out. When you get off the bus you say thank you and they say it back, your travelling contract civilly at an end. In London you are lucky to get a grunt from the drivers let alone have them make eye contact with you. They never wait for an old, unstable chap to sit down before they set off again. Admittedly London buses are a more dangerous beast than the friendly, cream-coloured ones you get down here (I know - I’ve been mugged twice on them) but never once have I been delighted by politeness from a London bus driver in 15 years of living there. Believe me, I would have remembered if it had happened.

Coastal postmen stand on the doorstep and chat to you, I have trouble getting rid of mine sometimes. Delivery men are happy to wait for your signature while you put baby down and lock dog up, they’ll even discuss their own family with you! In London parcels get chucked at you or left in the street, once a delivery man threw a king-sized mattress down my basement stairs trapping me in the flat and breaking our door – he said it wasn’t his problem. I have never had to call up the post office to rearrange a package redelivery since I have moved here because my neighbours always take them in for me, I don’t think I knew more than one neighbour in London despite living in one of the most densely packed parts of it!

Even think of the most annoying thing you can – the traffic warden, parking attendant, whatever – here most of them are affable chaps who’ll explain what’s going on for you. In my first week I saw two of them chatting, they were off-season surfers making a bit of extra cash in the winter and rather charming. In London they hide in bushes and behind cars waiting for you to trip up and there is absolutely no remonstrating with them, in fact its rather scary trying to do so. People and places are a lot more tolerant and accepting of babies and dogs.

I can describe plenty of lovely, polite encounters with shop staff, waiters, passers-by, plenty of pleases and thanks yous and it pleases me greatly. Here I must mention the lovely lady who works at The Meadow in Palmeira Square who despite not taking public orders for Christmas turkeys decided to help me out when I asked if she knew anywhere that did, and ordered me one with hers (taking no profit whatsoever) and even keeping it in the restaurant fridge until Christmas Eve. She had only met me that day!

Now I am not stupid, I know why people can be more guarded or mean in London and I myself fitted into that too, I rowed with folks who got in my way on buses, I have tripped people up to get that cab and I would keep my head down during a shop transaction barely saying a word to the person serving. Sometimes it does feel a bit more intense, busy and worrying in London and everyone acts accordingly. I read the papers I know that Brighton also has crime, and problems with drink and drugs and I am sure that everyone will have an example of someone who has ruined their day, but on the whole, looking at the bigger picture, weighing it all up – we are lucky because I have found nearly everyone is nicer! And maybe I’m nicer too now I have moved to Brighton? I hope so!

Next time, I will tell you about the times I have come across those who did rub me up the wrong way – and me them….

Comments(12)

Beethoven says...
2:20pm Sat 8 Aug 09

Alice, you are a girl after my own heart. As a Brightonian exiled in the Midlands I agree that Brighton is a friendlier place than where I live now.

I plan to move back - when I can ..

emmalondon says...
3:14pm Sat 8 Aug 09

I do agree with you on bus drivers, cabbies etc. I have found people more helpful when I am out with my kids too. However, my West Indian postman in London was the nicest guy I have ever met and I still miss him! So I guess it depends where in London you live. My road in Herne Hill London was friendlier than my road here in Brighton by far. And less people read the daily mail up there too (I attribute reading the Daily Mail as a general sign of intolerance because my Dad reads it!). So I would say it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. If you expect friendliness, you will find it, wherever you are:(

HoveAlone says...
6:06pm Sat 8 Aug 09

Where does the writer of this article actually live? In Brighton, or Hove?

I find people in Hove extremely friendly, wheras in Brighton I find people a tad 'brash' and 'boozy'.

Hove is a much better place to live than London, or even Brighton for that matter!

Floreat Hova! (may Hove flourish)

Donkey OT says...
7:20pm Sat 8 Aug 09

In Ringmer,the natives scatter rose petals under your feet as you walk.

Arnie says...
7:47pm Sat 8 Aug 09

Donkey OT wrote:
In Ringmer,the natives scatter rose petals under your feet as you walk.
That's nothing. In Shoreham, you can go on holiday for 2 months and leave your front door open. In fact... I don't even have a front door..

Lil says...
10:47pm Sat 8 Aug 09

Arnie wrote:
Donkey OT wrote:
In Ringmer,the natives scatter rose petals under your feet as you walk.
That's nothing. In Shoreham, you can go on holiday for 2 months and leave your front door open. In fact... I don't even have a front door..
And that's nothing compared to Worthing.

Here if you play music or play a piano that is not to the liking of an elderly person they will if necessary physically break into your house or flat and batter you with their walking stick and write "Sausage-muncher" over your walls.

:)

emmalondon says...
11:31pm Sat 8 Aug 09

I meant to add that, as a mum of young kids, I have found Brighton and Hove really really friendly. The playgroups are a bit cliquey as they are anywhere but I posted an ad on netmums and have met loads of lovely people who I hope will continue to be my friends. In London, when I tried to do that no-one had time to meet up, and it did not feel nearly so friendly. I think people have a bit more time to be friendly down here.

smalltowngirl says...
6:44am Sun 9 Aug 09

When we moved to central Brighton we were stunned by the friendliness of the people in our street. On moving day several helped us carry boxes etc into the house. 3 turned up with things to eat or drink. A lovely girl gave our cat the run of her house as he was a bit upset at being confined to a basket. Everyone we met talked as though we were old friends, offering advice on parking, restaurants, pubs etc.
We lived there for 9 years and moved away 6 years ago but still get invited back for BBQs and parties ( even though there are now only 4 of the original households in that road).

n01d says...
10:28am Mon 10 Aug 09

This stuff never happens to me. Bus drivers never say thank you. I have never chatted to the postman. Maybe you are getting hotter in your old age... lol

Alice Wright says...
10:10am Thu 13 Aug 09

Hello and thanks for your comments!

Hove Alone - I live virtually on the Brighton/Hove border - but just on the Hove side. I work in Brighton. And have yet to differentiate the two (please no one shoot me down in flames) although I am sure the longer I live here I will soon discover the different quirks and qualities pertinent to Hove!

I don't really go out in the evenings (having a baby) so don't really see the brash and boozy side of Brighton although I am sure it exists!

For the purpose of this post consider Brighton and Hove combined.

Although judging by the other comments it seems life is better in Ringmer, Shoreham and Worthing anyway?

n01d! I would love to think the good reception I have had down here was based on my looks - I couldn't however possibly comment on that.

Until next time.... x

HoveAlone says...
6:40pm Tue 25 Aug 09

Hi Alice,

Just a little bit of history for you-Hove and Brighton used to be completely seperate towns with their own borough councils. They had nothing (administratively) to do with one another. This changed in 1997 when they merged the two borough councils together, against the wishes of Hove residents. When they abolished 'Hove Borough Council' we begged to be latched onto neighbouring 'Adur District Council' with Southwick and Shoreham! Anything was better than merging with Brighton Borough Council. Despite our protests, we became 'Brighton & Hove Borough Council' which was effectively a Brighton-biased council.

I have heard that there is a massive campaign about to be launched to call for Hove to seperate from 'Brighton & Hove' and to become an independent town and borough once again - even if it means merging with a neigbouring authority as a compromise!

In terms of differentiating between the two towns, I can't believe you don't see the distinction??? Walk through Palmeira Square, stroll down 'The Avenues', take the bus through Tongdean! Hove is architecturally different, with wider streets and grander buildings, leafier streets and 'Chigwell-esque' suburbs. The Hove boundary on Western Road is at 'Boundary Passage' and runs down Little Western Street to the side of 'Embassy Court' on the seafront road.

When you are on the seafront road, walk along past the peace statue and see the green lawns, the regency buildings, the different street lights, and the different style railings on the seafront esplanade, the beach huts etc etc. THIS is Hove! It completely changes when you pass the peace statue in both directions!

It is high time that 'incomers' realised that 'Brighton & Hove' is purely an administrative term. It's city status was only conferred on the council, which simply gives it the right to call itself a 'city council'. It does not apply the status to the two respective towns of Hove and Brighton in the geographic sense!

We have also been lobbying the council for years for them to return the signage to the boundary points marking 'Hove' and 'Brighton' as one enters and leaves the respective towns, but it seems that the council is dead set on absorbing Hove into one big 'City of Brighton' - aaarrggh!

One day we will seperate, and become the 'Borough of Hove' once again!

Long live our town of Hove!

Alice Wright says...
9:39am Thu 27 Aug 09

Hello HoveAlone
Thanks for your comment - a paean to Hove!
If you read the post again you'll see it isn't talking about the administration, architecture or geography, rather its about the the people.

I agree with you about the beauty and rarity of some areas of Hove and I have discussed this before:
http://www.theargus.
co.uk/blogs/blogs/43
52663.Putting_on_a_f
ront/

I am not an 'incomer' I am in fact a 'returner' having been born and brought up in the area and lived most of my formative years opposite Hove Lagoon.

I love both Hove and Brighton!
Until next time... RH


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