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A few weeks ago I started a philosophy course.

I asked my friend who is fourteen and my tutor who’s an adult if they wanted to come as it’s a course for all ages.

I was pleased that they could both make it.

My friend and I were the only young people who attended the course.

In the first session I noticed some adults talking to each other when someone was already speaking and their mobile phones going off now and again.

It reminded me of when I used to go to school (I home educate now).

The teachers at school were telling a lot of their pupils off for having mobile phones and for talking over other people.

It amused me that adults could behave the same as the average young person.

This made me think that perhaps a lot of people of all ages behave similarly in particular situations.

I wonder if some school teachers might be disruptive themselves if they were attending classes as students, like some of the adults in my philosophy class.

Now and again I felt like an outsider in the group. For example, someone new came into the class and he introduced himself to everyone in the room except me and my fourteen year old friend.

I also found that we got patronised now and again, it felt like some people didn’t take what we said seriously because of our age.

I can cope with that though, it will not put me off attending the class because I gain many things from the group discussions.

My mum and I both agree that there is a general lack of communication between adults and young people in our society.

I think it’s healthy for people of different age groups to interact.

If we are doing something we are interested in and are communicating at the same time we will get to know one another and find we have some things in common and perhaps learn valuable lessons from each other.

This is different to parents trying to behave like teenagers and trying to fit in with their sons or daughters friends.

Leave your comments below.


Comments(12)

anubis says...
10:34pm Mon 9 Feb 09

Interested to read your comments -- it would be MORE interesting if you gave some indication of exactly what "philosophy" course you are attending. If you are paying fees, I would hope you aren't paying as much as someone in full time employment might be charged .. etc., etc.

When I was your age (14 years) I also began attending open adult classes that interested me. In the early days, like you I found people more readily "mix with" people of their own age. Generally speaking, thirty year olds are at first 'uncomfortable' approaching elderly strangers or, at the other extreme, teenagers. I'm sure you will soon find, as I did, that as soon as you are better known AND ARE MAKING USEFUL AND INTELLIGENT CONTRIBUTIONS to the discussions, you'll be readily accepted "as an equal".

The odds are you two are possibly 'brighter' than many of the adults present -- and this is also something that might make those who feel less adequate unwilling to adjust themselves to talking with you ... Be sure you don't get "big headed" -- this won't help you make friends. Everybody goes to classes to learn -- AND THAT GOES FOR THE TEACHER AS WELL!

SirLancelot says...
8:07am Wed 11 Feb 09

Yes - you were saying about adults being "patronizing" Annie-Marie?

Txa says...
12:22pm Wed 11 Feb 09

Qualities that symbolize adulthood in most cultures:
Self-control, stability, independence, seriousness, responsibility, method/tact(patience
), endurance, experience, objectivity, decision making capability, priorities.

Nothing to relate with competitiveness and educational achievements.

literal security word: most-fear :)

NoWaySeriously says...
12:45pm Tue 17 Feb 09

Who the hell is this girl, anyways???

anubis says...
8:30pm Wed 18 Feb 09

Good question, NoWaySeriously! All the Annie-Marie postings appear to be just a little too mature and too well scripted to have come from a 13-year old. My 'best guess' is that she probably exists ... but her messages are well worked upon ... maybe by her mother/ or someone who is not a newcomer to commenting to press and/or forums. Having said that, they are ALL well worthy of addressing; unfortunate that there are never responses from 'Annie-Marie' !!

Quibble says...
7:00pm Sun 22 Feb 09

I hope this is a bona fide Philosophy course and not the bogus Practical Philosophy course run by the School of Economic Science. The 'School' is a cult, and you should keep your distance.

anubis says...
7:23pm Sun 22 Feb 09

The identical thought had occurred to me, Quibble! Mind you, if the students have been conned into joining one of these PP groups, they should be aware of it by now ...

Txa says...
9:52am Mon 23 Feb 09

Cult or not, I think it's good to have an open mind, and be able to trust your own judgement.

security word; wild-fear

Txa says...
9:54am Mon 23 Feb 09

Cult or not, I think it's good to have an open mind, and to trust your own judgment.

BBBrighton says...
2:22pm Mon 23 Feb 09

I think more 13year olds should be encouraged to take philosophy as it is a far more interesting area of thought than business studies or the like! - Of course you felt like an outsider, society sticks together in groups that it is familiar with. A 45 year old person does not interact the same with a 11year old person as they would with someone of the same age. It's just the way society is structured. I agree that the communication between younger generations & older hence the reason why 'youths' are always referred to when speaking about anyone under the age of 25. The trouble is how to rectify this? It is no longer permissable for middleaged men to speak to children outside of a school or familial setting and indeed many people will just walk by a lost child for fear of being labeled as something monstrous. Its an interesting topic.

Carl Bugenhagen says...
9:20am Tue 24 Feb 09

Quibble, I am not sure that school is really a cult, they have been accused of 'seeking to ‘penetrate the corridors of power’ via the Liberal Party'. This is clearly futile :O)

anubis says...
2:44pm Wed 25 Feb 09

Carl -- I assure you Quibble is 'bang on'. If you are interested, fully exposed in the heavily documented
300 page booklet "Secret Cult" by Hounam & Hogg, Lion Publishing (1985). A secular book, but with a cover endorsement by the Bishop of Woolwich (and many others). The 'courses' are advertised as 'Practical Philosophy'; the body is an international cult, especially active throughout the UK and Australia. I cannot speak too highly of the booklet!


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