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Murder theory that just won't go away
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| Norman Baker says lies have been told |
The greatest British conspiracy theory of the modern age was unveiled this week. Lewes MP Norman Baker set out in detail for the first time why he believes the secret service murdered the Government scientist Dr David Kelly.
MILES GODFREY and KATYA MIRA report on a one-man crusade for the truth which has catapulted an unassuming Parliamentarian into the international spotlight.
It was the start of 2006 and the
time was right to bring down the
British Government.
In March last year Norman Baker,
serial thorn in the side of the establishment
and by his own admission
"not the Prime Minister's favourite
person", resigned his role as a frontbench
MP for the Liberal Democrats.
It was a typically low-key
announcement, timed to coincide
with the anointment of the party's
new leader Sir Menzies Campbell.
The time had come, the MP said,
for a new man to take over.
But to those who knew Norman
Baker, the decision to resign was
made for another reason.
It would allow him more time to do
what he does best: investigate, challenge,
push, probe - specifically into
the death of weapons expert Dr David
Kelly. He was about to embark on an
amazing investigation into the
murky world of secret service agents,
national security and the death of the
man who very nearly halted the start
of the war in Iraq.
If he could prove conclusively
that members
of the Government
had
conspired to get
rid of Dr Kelly, it
would have been
- and still could be - the biggest single
scandal this country has ever known.
The official report into the death of
Dr David Kelly concluded he committed
suicide after a row between
the BBC and the Government over
the "sexed up" dossier on Iraq's supposed
weapons of mass destruction
thrust the normally private scientist
into the glare of the limelight.
But Mr Baker didn't believe a word
of it. He said at the time: "The public
out there can smell a rat and they
don't think it's finished business
either."
The scientist's death was, the MP
said, just too convenient, too riddled
with inconsistencies and so unlike a
man like Dr Kelly.
His year-long investigation
culminated on Wednesday
night at a meeting
at which he proclaimed
Dr Kelly had
been murdered and set
out his evidence.
Mr Baker told a
packed community
hall in Lewes: "I am
convinced beyond a
reasonable doubt that
this could not be
suicide.
"The medical evidence
does not support it
and David Kelly's state
of mind and personality
suggests otherwise.
It
was not an accident so I am left with
the conclusion that it is murder."
He told of how the world's leading
WMD expert had spent the morning
before his death sending "upbeat
emails" and even booking himself a
flight to Iraq from his rural home in
Southmoor, near Oxford.
Mr Baker questioned the cause of
death - a haemorrhage caused by
cuts to the ulnar artery in the wrist.
He said such wounds were "matchstick
thick" and hidden, difficult to
get to, as well as rarely leading to
death.
The knife said to have been used
was a gardening pruner Dr Kelly had
kept since childhood - an unlikely
and blunt choice.
Paramedics have said he had lost
little blood and was "incredibly
unlikely" to have died from the
wound they saw.
Police said 29 tablets of the
painkiller Coproxamol were missing
from his home but all that was found
in Dr Kelly's stomach was the equivalent
of one fifth of a tablet.
The MP told The Argus: "It has
taken more than a year to investigate
and it has been an incredible and fascinating
journey which has taken a
large number of twists and turns.
"I have met experts on weapons of
mass destruction in Brussels and
uncovered more evidence about the
lies the Government told about
weapons of mass destruction before
the war."
Along the way Mr Baker has had
personal run-ins with high-profile
Government figures, not least Tony
Blair.
He said: "I wouldn't say it has been
easy, certainly the Foreign Office has
done a lot to put obstacles in my way
and other people have too. It has been
hard work but at the same time it has
been extremely worthwhile."
He has also been hugely encouraged
by the public, who he claims can
see Dr Kelly's death for what he says
it was. Mr Baker said: "There is a
world in Westminster and the rest of
the world and I think most people in
the public world can see that Dr
Kelly was murdered.
"He was the world's foremost
expert on weapons of mass destruction
who could single-handedly
destroy the Government's case for
war so it was no wonder he was killed.
"It may have also been intended as
a message to other people out there
who speak to the press when the Government
doesn't want you to.
"I was appalled at his death and at
the Hutton Inquiry into it. It was a
procedural disaster from start to finish
and I felt compelled to look into it."
Mr Baker has signed a book deal to
explain in greater detail his findings
on Dr Kelly's death and he expects to
publish it later this year.
But the MP insists he will continue
to investigate.
He has nagging doubts about the
official line taken over the recent
Navy hostages taken in Iran and over
the death of Robin Cook, the MP who
resigned in protest at the Iraq war.
He said: "Robin Cook was on Ministry
of Defence land, I believe, when
he died and certainly I have doubts
over what happened."
There are those, of course, who
doubt Norman Baker's theories.
But for every person out there who
does there are an equal number for
whom the MP has become a beacon of
truth in an increasingly murky world.
11:39am Friday 13th April 2007
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CommentPosted by: roy on 2:31pm Fri 13 Apr 07
The greatest British conspiracy theory
The official report into the death of Dr David Kelly concluded he committed suicide – and yet Mr. Baker persists in trying to make money (Mr. Baker has signed a book deal) on the back of this sad story. There is no mention of the fact that the widow accepted the govt. report.
My father committed suicide in Lisbon in the 1960’s, following a property deal that when wrong. My mother never came to terms with it, convinced that he had been murdered by casino crooks and/or MI5 spies. Support services for the grieving relatives were not as available as they are now.
To describe Baker’s story as a” beacon of truth” is worse than nonsense: more like a wrecking light, trying to get electoral advantage, both locally and nationally. He should be ashamed.
[italic]“He had a broken heart. He had shrunk into himself”. Mrs Kelly told
the Hutton Inquiry.[/italic]
The greatest British conspiracy theory
The official report into the death of Dr David Kelly concluded he committed suicide – and yet Mr. Baker persists in trying to make money (Mr. Baker has signed a book deal) on the back of this sad story. There is no mention of the fact that the widow accepted the govt. report.
My father committed suicide in Lisbon in the 1960’s, following a property deal that when wrong. My mother never came to terms with it, convinced that he had been murdered by casino crooks and/or MI5 spies. Support services for the grieving relatives were not as available as they are now.
To describe Baker’s story as a” beacon of truth” is worse than nonsense: more like a wrecking light, trying to get electoral advantage, both locally and nationally. He should be ashamed.
“He had a broken heart. He had shrunk into himself”. Mrs Kelly told
the Hutton Inquiry. Posted by: BlairSupporter, UK on 7:59pm Fri 13 Apr 07
[quote]"It was the start of 2006 and the time was right to bring down the British Government."[/quote]
So THAT'S your motivation, is it, Mr Baker? Bringing down the PM & the government? Well, they've all tried - the SNP, half of the press, the police, and now the Tories over the navy lark. The public don't seem quite so moved to do this.
In the end Tony Blair has seen them all off apart from some in his own stupid party, who are after his blood for other reasons.
And if you think that Robin Cook has been knocked off by the government or secret services too, I'm seriously concerned about your sanity! More and more foolish. And your allegations were pretty silly already, questioning the integrity of Lord Hutton and his inquiry and the honesty of all those from whom he took evidence.
There is no date to this article, so I assume it was written some time ago before the recent TV programme on the "Kelly Conspiracy". If so this article is devalued and should be removed. The programme concluded that Mr Kelly died by his own hand, with a few conspiracy theories thrown into the melting pot, and then dismissed, about the Iraqi secret services.
If this 'truth-hunter' of an MP KNOWS that there was someone else behind Dr Kelly's death - presumably the PM - WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE? Come on now, Mr Baker. I'd like to know if my Prime Minister is out there murdering people, or encouraging others so to do.
Admit it, Mr Baker - people like you are motivated by your hatred of Tony Blair for Iraq, for his believing the WMD evidence, (or for being taken in by it), for his closeness to Bush, for still being listened to at home and around the world even in the dying days of his premiership. In fact you hate him for breathing.
For me, he is the best Prime Minister we have had for decades - honest, upright and with true leadership qualities. Pity it seems that envy and suspicion consumes such as yourself, and many in the press.
I have put my thoughts on Mr Blair on my own blog, just to try to counteract some of the unproven, defamatory junk he has to put up with. People like yourself should be ashamed.
Google - Keep Tony Blair For PM.
"It was the start of 2006 and the time was right to bring down the British Government."
So THAT'S your motivation, is it, Mr Baker? Bringing down the PM & the government? Well, they've all tried - the SNP, half of the press, the police, and now the Tories over the navy lark. The public don't seem quite so moved to do this.
In the end Tony Blair has seen them all off apart from some in his own stupid party, who are after his blood for other reasons.
And if you think that Robin Cook has been knocked off by the government or secret services too, I'm seriously concerned about your sanity! More and more foolish. And your allegations were pretty silly already, questioning the integrity of Lord Hutton and his inquiry and the honesty of all those from whom he took evidence.
There is no date to this article, so I assume it was written some time ago before the recent TV programme on the "Kelly Conspiracy". If so this article is devalued and should be removed. The programme concluded that Mr Kelly died by his own hand, with a few conspiracy theories thrown into the melting pot, and then dismissed, about the Iraqi secret services.
If this 'truth-hunter' of an MP KNOWS that there was someone else behind Dr Kelly's death - presumably the PM - WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE? Come on now, Mr Baker. I'd like to know if my Prime Minister is out there murdering people, or encouraging others so to do.
Admit it, Mr Baker - people like you are motivated by your hatred of Tony Blair for Iraq, for his believing the WMD evidence, (or for being taken in by it), for his closeness to Bush, for still being listened to at home and around the world even in the dying days of his premiership. In fact you hate him for breathing.
For me, he is the best Prime Minister we have had for decades - honest, upright and with true leadership qualities. Pity it seems that envy and suspicion consumes such as yourself, and many in the press.
I have put my thoughts on Mr Blair on my own blog, just to try to counteract some of the unproven, defamatory junk he has to put up with. People like yourself should be ashamed.
Google - Keep Tony Blair For PM.
Posted by: martin brighton on 11:44am Sat 14 Apr 07
Dr. David Kelly was not the first to have been targeted by nulabor, and will not be the last.
This nulabor government, as corrupt as it is, has a policy of inducing mental illness and suicide among those it has deemed to be a potential threat.
In effect, Dr. David Kelly, among others, was effectively killed because of what he knew about nulabor.
This sad saga, yet another in years of similar abuses by nulabor, demonstrates yet again that:
This nulabor government is corrupt. The corruption is absolute, lead from the top down, includes the government institutions, and is out of control. Being rotten to the core and from the core, everything it touches it taints. Having neither the ability nor inclination to sort itself, outside intervention is indicated.
Dr. David Kelly was not the first to have been targeted by nulabor, and will not be the last.
This nulabor government, as corrupt as it is, has a policy of inducing mental illness and suicide among those it has deemed to be a potential threat.
In effect, Dr. David Kelly, among others, was effectively killed because of what he knew about nulabor.
This sad saga, yet another in years of similar abuses by nulabor, demonstrates yet again that:
This nulabor government is corrupt. The corruption is absolute, lead from the top down, includes the government institutions, and is out of control. Being rotten to the core and from the core, everything it touches it taints. Having neither the ability nor inclination to sort itself, outside intervention is indicated.
Posted by: Ron Lambert, Geordieland on 3:51pm Sat 14 Apr 07
In answer to secret Blair supporter, or is it Tonyboy himself? The B.B.C.'s whitewash of Dr. Kelly's death was almost as transparent as their 911 farce and you've got no right to infer that public opinion is in favour of the so-called official line.
Conspiracies are only theories if there are no facts and in Dr. Kelly's case there are plenty. There are hundreds of suppressed facts and real witnesses relating to 911 that were blatantly, no criminally ignored. So please stop trying to tell us that what we see is reality, haven't you heard of smoke and mirrors? It's what governments do when they don't want to be found out, such as in taking the country to war for reasons no sane person would agree to,
i.e. oil and power. I am only a humble, disabled bricklayer with lots of time on my hands, to read freepress on the internet, to look beyond the matrix of the controlled mainstream media, and guess what. I can see through the phoney spin of your masters, whom you prefer to lie down with. But the scales are rapidly falling from the eyes of the masses, like with the cold war and the 911 pretext for this phoney war on terror.
And people like Norman Baker, George Galloway and the late courageous Robin Cook
are the only one's with balls enough to rebuff ridicule by their bosses and peers to say ENOUGH!.
Truth is like a little crack in a roof tile which lets in a trickle of rain-water, until it builds up in the felt and bursts through the ceiling, and it is building up in the populous my freind.
Go to New York and ask Joe Schmoe in the street if he thinks that the 911 commission was fairly conducted, and well over 50% will tell you that they know someone who heard, felt or saw dozens of explosions from the basements of the towers to the top, well before the collapses. If you think it's beyond a 'civilized' government to perpetrate terror against it's citizens, please google up 'The Northwoods document' where some inside Kennedy's admin. drew up a plan to sink ships, shoot down aircraft with make-believe passenger lists, and even kill patsies in Florida so that they could win public opinion in order to go to war with Cuba. Heck, it's like a script for 911 and this current bloodbath in Iraq, who like Afghanistan,
had nothing to do with 911. And you don't call the deaths of approx.1,000,000 civillians murder, not to mention the 500,000 Iraqi kids who died of starvation and no medicine through embargos after Gulf war 1? Boy you really need to swallow the red pill, or was it blue? Where's the evidence? you say, well there's an old latin saying, Cui Bono?...or who benefits? Iraq didn't benefit, nor Afghanistan, nor did the old C.I.A. agent
called Bin Laden who denied the gig, even though it would have rocketed his kudos.
Palestine, Syria and Iran didn't benefit too. Hmm, who did?
Bush, Blair, Cheney, especially Dick with his multi billion dollar, no tender Halliburton contracts.
Er..Larry Silverstein who took over the twin towers a year earlier and insured them for seven and a half billion and counting did o.k. The
unknown stock traders who made who knows what on put options on the decline of American Airlines, on the 9th. of Sept.and before. Everybody but the invaded got rich, and stayed alive. You want evidence pal? Try opening your eyes to the discrepancies, they far outweigh the official line. As to Norman Baker's book, I suspect it's more for reaching a brain-washed public than fiscal profit, but so what, plenty M.P.'s do books about their sordid lives and still get fat pay-offs, and pretendy jobs in the city for keeping their mouths shut. Wake up fool, unless you are..... already wide awake.
In answer to secret Blair supporter, or is it Tonyboy himself? The B.B.C.'s whitewash of Dr. Kelly's death was almost as transparent as their 911 farce and you've got no right to infer that public opinion is in favour of the so-called official line.
Conspiracies are only theories if there are no facts and in Dr. Kelly's case there are plenty. There are hundreds of suppressed facts and real witnesses relating to 911 that were blatantly, no criminally ignored. So please stop trying to tell us that what we see is reality, haven't you heard of smoke and mirrors? It's what governments do when they don't want to be found out, such as in taking the country to war for reasons no sane person would agree to,
i.e. oil and power. I am only a humble, disabled bricklayer with lots of time on my hands, to read freepress on the internet, to look beyond the matrix of the controlled mainstream media, and guess what. I can see through the phoney spin of your masters, whom you prefer to lie down with. But the scales are rapidly falling from the eyes of the masses, like with the cold war and the 911 pretext for this phoney war on terror.
And people like Norman Baker, George Galloway and the late courageous Robin Cook
are the only one's with balls enough to rebuff ridicule by their bosses and peers to say ENOUGH!.
Truth is like a little crack in a roof tile which lets in a trickle of rain-water, until it builds up in the felt and bursts through the ceiling, and it is building up in the populous my freind.
Go to New York and ask Joe Schmoe in the street if he thinks that the 911 commission was fairly conducted, and well over 50% will tell you that they know someone who heard, felt or saw dozens of explosions from the basements of the towers to the top, well before the collapses. If you think it's beyond a 'civilized' government to perpetrate terror against it's citizens, please google up 'The Northwoods document' where some inside Kennedy's admin. drew up a plan to sink ships, shoot down aircraft with make-believe passenger lists, and even kill patsies in Florida so that they could win public opinion in order to go to war with Cuba. Heck, it's like a script for 911 and this current bloodbath in Iraq, who like Afghanistan,
had nothing to do with 911. And you don't call the deaths of approx.1,000,000 civillians murder, not to mention the 500,000 Iraqi kids who died of starvation and no medicine through embargos after Gulf war 1? Boy you really need to swallow the red pill, or was it blue? Where's the evidence? you say, well there's an old latin saying, Cui Bono?...or who benefits? Iraq didn't benefit, nor Afghanistan, nor did the old C.I.A. agent
called Bin Laden who denied the gig, even though it would have rocketed his kudos.
Palestine, Syria and Iran didn't benefit too. Hmm, who did?
Bush, Blair, Cheney, especially Dick with his multi billion dollar, no tender Halliburton contracts.
Er..Larry Silverstein who took over the twin towers a year earlier and insured them for seven and a half billion and counting did o.k. The
unknown stock traders who made who knows what on put options on the decline of American Airlines, on the 9th. of Sept.and before. Everybody but the invaded got rich, and stayed alive. You want evidence pal? Try opening your eyes to the discrepancies, they far outweigh the official line. As to Norman Baker's book, I suspect it's more for reaching a brain-washed public than fiscal profit, but so what, plenty M.P.'s do books about their sordid lives and still get fat pay-offs, and pretendy jobs in the city for keeping their mouths shut. Wake up fool, unless you are..... already wide awake.
Posted by: viceroy on 5:04pm Sat 14 Apr 07
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1523838,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1523838,00.html
Posted by: Rob Meyerson, UK on 8:02pm Sat 14 Apr 07
A few less people like BlairSupporter above who fawningly and uncritically accept their idol's every utterance, and a few more like Norman Baker, and Ron Lambert above, the sooner we'll turn this world back from the terrible place our corrupt leaders are taking us.
There's an interview with Aaron Russo that tells where we're heading -
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/290107rockefellergoal.htm
"Hollywood director and documentary film maker Aaron Russo has gone in-depth on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, who personally told him that the elite's ultimate goal was to create a microchipped population and that the war on terror was a hoax, Rockefeller having predicted an "event" that would trigger the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan eleven months before 9/11."
A few less people like BlairSupporter above who fawningly and uncritically accept their idol's every utterance, and a few more like Norman Baker, and Ron Lambert above, the sooner we'll turn this world back from the terrible place our corrupt leaders are taking us.
There's an interview with Aaron Russo that tells where we're heading -
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/290107rockefellergoal.htm
"Hollywood director and documentary film maker Aaron Russo has gone in-depth on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, who personally told him that the elite's ultimate goal was to create a microchipped population and that the war on terror was a hoax, Rockefeller having predicted an "event" that would trigger the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan eleven months before 9/11."
Posted by: Stephen B Coulson, Canada on 1:48am Sun 15 Apr 07
A government willing to lie its way into a war killing 650,000 people or thereabout so far certainly wouldn't balk at killing a few people who stood in their way either.
If people are suspicious about this government, it's really the governments own fault. Neither Tony Blair, nor president Dick Cheney and his glove puppet for that matter, have given much indication that they should be trusted on matters of fact.
A government willing to lie its way into a war killing 650,000 people or thereabout so far certainly wouldn't balk at killing a few people who stood in their way either.
If people are suspicious about this government, it's really the governments own fault. Neither Tony Blair, nor president Dick Cheney and his glove puppet for that matter, have given much indication that they should be trusted on matters of fact.
Posted by: Dianne C. Foster, USA on 2:13am Sun 15 Apr 07
It may have been an allied foreign power, equally keen to be in Iraq, who killed him. I happened to have been in Ireland at the time of his disappearance. It seemed there was a note of skepticism when he first went missing, a tone of something like suspicion, and then his body was discovered. The absurd motives for suicide combined with the weak evidence for blood loss or drugs as having been the cause point to the sinister conclusion. But please think outside the box. There are others who wanted to be in Iraq, not just the British government, however corrupt. It's about huge amounts of control of the world's oil, at the most profitable well-head, with the complicity of the citizens of those invading states due to ill-founded fears of WMD. Don't forget, we had an incident with anthrax, which was traceable to an Army lab in the US, not to Saddam as it was hoped we would believe. To remove a few men who stand in the way is nothing for the professional killers who invaded a sovereign and unoffending (lately) Iraq with Shock and Awe. As an American, I have a blood spot in my eye which will not go away. Kelly's death must be understood for the murder it undoubtedly was. It is one of thousands, don't forget, and only the beginning. Keep a broad understanding of where the other allied nations are in this. To think that we, who once stood together against Hitler, in our finest hours, must live under tyranny is something we must scorn and fight against. Inevitably, an expensive instant and increasingly imaginary empire will cost us in blood, treasure and in our hard fought human rights. Those who brought us to it will steal from us until we stop them.
It may have been an allied foreign power, equally keen to be in Iraq, who killed him. I happened to have been in Ireland at the time of his disappearance. It seemed there was a note of skepticism when he first went missing, a tone of something like suspicion, and then his body was discovered. The absurd motives for suicide combined with the weak evidence for blood loss or drugs as having been the cause point to the sinister conclusion. But please think outside the box. There are others who wanted to be in Iraq, not just the British government, however corrupt. It's about huge amounts of control of the world's oil, at the most profitable well-head, with the complicity of the citizens of those invading states due to ill-founded fears of WMD. Don't forget, we had an incident with anthrax, which was traceable to an Army lab in the US, not to Saddam as it was hoped we would believe. To remove a few men who stand in the way is nothing for the professional killers who invaded a sovereign and unoffending (lately) Iraq with Shock and Awe. As an American, I have a blood spot in my eye which will not go away. Kelly's death must be understood for the murder it undoubtedly was. It is one of thousands, don't forget, and only the beginning. Keep a broad understanding of where the other allied nations are in this. To think that we, who once stood together against Hitler, in our finest hours, must live under tyranny is something we must scorn and fight against. Inevitably, an expensive instant and increasingly imaginary empire will cost us in blood, treasure and in our hard fought human rights. Those who brought us to it will steal from us until we stop them.
Posted by: Veloceraptor, U.K. on 9:35am Sun 15 Apr 07
Upon his resignation as BBC chairman Gavyn Davies commented on the irreconcilable contradictions between Hutton’s "bald conclusions" and the balance of evidence presented to the actual Inquiry.
Even BBC political editor Andrew Marr comments on Hutton's underlying assumptions and background, making him more likely to believe and trust certain social groups: "again and again, he comes down on the side of politicians and officials."
So who is Hutton, and what is in his background to come to these extraordinary conclusions? What has lead to the reports extraordinary absolution of Blair’s war lies and attack on journalistic freedom?
The 72 year old Baron Hutton of Bresagh, County of Down, North Ireland, is a classic representative of the British ruling establishment. A member of the Anglo-Irish elite, he was educated at Shewsbury all boys boarding school, and then Balliol, Oxford, before entering the exclusive club of the British Judiciary. Whilst British Judges are overwhelmingly conservative, upper class, white, male and biased, Hutton’s background is even more compromised.
His name will be familiar to residents of the Six counties of Ulster. During the bloody thirty years war Hutton was an instrument of British state repression, starting in the late 1960’s as junior counsel to the Northern Ireland attorney general, and by 1988 rising to the top job of Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland.
Hutton spent his career as Judge and Jury in the notorious northern Ireland kangaroo ‘Diplock Courts’. These were special non-Jury courts, condemned by human rights advocates for their miscarriages of justice. He was hated for this role by the families of the many innocent Catholics wrongly convicted here.
Hutton distinguished himself after the Bloody Sunday massacre of civil rights protesters in 1972. He played a key role in the ensuing judicial cover-up called the Widgery Inquiry which absolved British troops of Murder. This miscarriage of justice is only now being investigated by the current Saville inquiry.
Then in 1978 he represented the British Government before the European Court of Human Rights, defending it against a ruling that it abused and maltreated detainees from the conflict.
However, he will be remembered in the rest of the UK for his role in the 1999 Pinochet affair. Another senior Judge, Lord Hoffman had contributed to the decision to arrest and extradite the notorious former dicator of Chile and mass murderer General Pinochet during his visit to Britain.
As a law lord, Hutton led the rightwing attack on Lord Hoffman, on the excuse that Hoffman’s links to the human rights group amnesty international invalidated Pinochet's arrest! Lord Hutton said "public confidence in the integrity of the administration of justice would be shaken" if Lord Hoffman’s ruling was not overturned.
More recently, Hutton was also involved in the ruling that David Shayler, the former MI5 agent, could not argue he was acting in the public interest by revealing secrets.
This history of intimate links with, and knowledge of Britains secret military intelligence operations meant he could be a trusted pair of hands when it came to the Kelly affair.
Upon his resignation as BBC chairman Gavyn Davies commented on the irreconcilable contradictions between Hutton’s "bald conclusions" and the balance of evidence presented to the actual Inquiry.
Even BBC political editor Andrew Marr comments on Hutton's underlying assumptions and background, making him more likely to believe and trust certain social groups: "again and again, he comes down on the side of politicians and officials."
So who is Hutton, and what is in his background to come to these extraordinary conclusions? What has lead to the reports extraordinary absolution of Blair’s war lies and attack on journalistic freedom?
The 72 year old Baron Hutton of Bresagh, County of Down, North Ireland, is a classic representative of the British ruling establishment. A member of the Anglo-Irish elite, he was educated at Shewsbury all boys boarding school, and then Balliol, Oxford, before entering the exclusive club of the British Judiciary. Whilst British Judges are overwhelmingly conservative, upper class, white, male and biased, Hutton’s background is even more compromised.
His name will be familiar to residents of the Six counties of Ulster. During the bloody thirty years war Hutton was an instrument of British state repression, starting in the late 1960’s as junior counsel to the Northern Ireland attorney general, and by 1988 rising to the top job of Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland.
Hutton spent his career as Judge and Jury in the notorious northern Ireland kangaroo ‘Diplock Courts’. These were special non-Jury courts, condemned by human rights advocates for their miscarriages of justice. He was hated for this role by the families of the many innocent Catholics wrongly convicted here.
Hutton distinguished himself after the Bloody Sunday massacre of civil rights protesters in 1972. He played a key role in the ensuing judicial cover-up called the Widgery Inquiry which absolved British troops of Murder. This miscarriage of justice is only now being investigated by the current Saville inquiry.
Then in 1978 he represented the British Government before the European Court of Human Rights, defending it against a ruling that it abused and maltreated detainees from the conflict.
However, he will be remembered in the rest of the UK for his role in the 1999 Pinochet affair. Another senior Judge, Lord Hoffman had contributed to the decision to arrest and extradite the notorious former dicator of Chile and mass murderer General Pinochet during his visit to Britain.
As a law lord, Hutton led the rightwing attack on Lord Hoffman, on the excuse that Hoffman’s links to the human rights group amnesty international invalidated Pinochet's arrest! Lord Hutton said "public confidence in the integrity of the administration of justice would be shaken" if Lord Hoffman’s ruling was not overturned.
More recently, Hutton was also involved in the ruling that David Shayler, the former MI5 agent, could not argue he was acting in the public interest by revealing secrets.
This history of intimate links with, and knowledge of Britains secret military intelligence operations meant he could be a trusted pair of hands when it came to the Kelly affair.
Posted by: FedUpWithLies, Brighton on 11:43am Sun 15 Apr 07
Thank goodness someone is going to expose this mendacious and corrupt government for what it is, and going to ensure they don't get away with such an appalling and self-preserving act as the murder of David Kelly.
Thank goodness someone is going to expose this mendacious and corrupt government for what it is, and going to ensure they don't get away with such an appalling and self-preserving act as the murder of David Kelly.
Posted by: bigmouth, manchester on 4:58pm Sun 15 Apr 07
now that we know there were never any WMD's in iraq, kelly was right - the dossier was sexed up. why would he kill himself when he knew he was right all along and that he would eventually be vindicated? motive and blame lies with government and government only
now that we know there were never any WMD's in iraq, kelly was right - the dossier was sexed up. why would he kill himself when he knew he was right all along and that he would eventually be vindicated? motive and blame lies with government and government only
Posted by: Michael Smith, Germany on 1:10pm Mon 16 Apr 07
The problem is today that ordinary persons have an almost impossible task in getting exposure for stories that prove what we have for a Government. I have been trying to get coverage for a story I have researched,involving the MoD(UK), which is all backed by documentary evidence, so it can't be denied. The media does nothing but run from the story.
The problem is today that ordinary persons have an almost impossible task in getting exposure for stories that prove what we have for a Government. I have been trying to get coverage for a story I have researched,involving the MoD(UK), which is all backed by documentary evidence, so it can't be denied. The media does nothing but run from the story.
Posted by: Strategist, London on 1:32am Tue 17 Apr 07
Argus readers should check out what the dissident former British Ambassador Craig Murray is saying about this on his site www.craigmurray.org.uk: "I think it most likely this was [a] private [contract killing] by one of the US companies that were pushing the war on Iraq. I know some senior MI6 people privately think this, too."
This is an important contribution. It feels implausible that Blair would have ordered the murder (even in a "who will rid me of this turbulent weapons inspector" moment) - Blair & Campbell's No.10, constantly obsessed by how it was being reported, would have thought killing him in the midst of a total media furore way too risky to contemplate.
With the information I have seen to date I have for some time thought that the most plausible explanation of what the British security services were doing at the crime scene (standing down the local constabulary for however many hours and so on) was hurriedly finding out what had happened and removing evidence.
Can you imagine the scene in No 10 as the report came in that yes he was dead and that MI5 suspected an American agency had done it? They would be bricking it. A cover up would be of paramount importance. The idea of an inquiry announced quickly was a clever one – the govt that always resists inquiries into itself suddenly looked good at the time by announcing an inquiry quickly and appearing to come clean by releasing emails, for example – but all the time they knew that the inquiry would find nothing incriminating in No 10’s email accounts. Appointing Hutton – a man who could be relied on to give the right verdict at the end of the process without needing to be leaned on by the government – was clever, but the masterstroke was to say that the Inquiry superseded any need for a local coroner’s inquest – a local level process that would correspondingly be far more difficult to control. So, one way of understanding the Hutton Inquiry is to think of it as a means of distracting attention from the really damaging evidence (from the local medics etc) that this was no suicide.
I await “Stormin’ Norman” Baker’s book with great interest. I hope he has considered the possibility that it was neither suicide nor a British Govt-sponsored murder, but a third party sponsored murder obligingly covered up by the British secret services. The BBC's Conspiracy Files programme on 26 Feb, whilst airing ridiculous ideas, eg the Iraqi secret services did it (!), noticeably failed to give any time whatsoever to the possibility that the Americans had done it.
Finally, on a theme we must often return to, isn’t it funny that Norman Baker’s pronouncements last week, which one might have thought just slightly newsworthy, have been utterly blanked by the London media and are going totally unreported outside Sussex? Clearly the carrier pigeon hasn’t quite made it across the North Downs to Fleet Street yet!
Argus readers should check out what the dissident former British Ambassador Craig Murray is saying about this on his site www.craigmurray.org.uk: "I think it most likely this was private by one of the US companies that were pushing the war on Iraq. I know some senior MI6 people privately think this, too."
This is an important contribution. It feels implausible that Blair would have ordered the murder (even in a "who will rid me of this turbulent weapons inspector" moment) - Blair & Campbell's No.10, constantly obsessed by how it was being reported, would have thought killing him in the midst of a total media furore way too risky to contemplate.
With the information I have seen to date I have for some time thought that the most plausible explanation of what the British security services were doing at the crime scene (standing down the local constabulary for however many hours and so on) was hurriedly finding out what had happened and removing evidence.
Can you imagine the scene in No 10 as the report came in that yes he was dead and that MI5 suspected an American agency had done it? They would be bricking it. A cover up would be of paramount importance. The idea of an inquiry announced quickly was a clever one – the govt that always resists inquiries into itself suddenly looked good at the time by announcing an inquiry quickly and appearing to come clean by releasing emails, for example – but all the time they knew that the inquiry would find nothing incriminating in No 10’s email accounts. Appointing Hutton – a man who could be relied on to give the right verdict at the end of the process without needing to be leaned on by the government – was clever, but the masterstroke was to say that the Inquiry superseded any need for a local coroner’s inquest – a local level process that would correspondingly be far more difficult to control. So, one way of understanding the Hutton Inquiry is to think of it as a means of distracting attention from the really damaging evidence (from the local medics etc) that this was no suicide.
I await “Stormin’ Norman” Baker’s book with great interest. I hope he has considered the possibility that it was neither suicide nor a British Govt-sponsored murder, but a third party sponsored murder obligingly covered up by the British secret services. The BBC's Conspiracy Files programme on 26 Feb, whilst airing ridiculous ideas, eg the Iraqi secret services did it (!), noticeably failed to give any time whatsoever to the possibility that the Americans had done it.
Finally, on a theme we must often return to, isn’t it funny that Norman Baker’s pronouncements last week, which one might have thought just slightly newsworthy, have been utterly blanked by the London media and are going totally unreported outside Sussex? Clearly the carrier pigeon hasn’t quite made it across the North Downs to Fleet Street yet!
Posted by: Psynonymous, Sunderland on 5:29pm Tue 17 Apr 07
Strategist above is on the right track, indeed a third party, try Mossad. Someone said ' cui bono ', who benefits? well oil is pretty much too obvious but not enough reason to go to all that bother, however security and middle east supremacy are crucial to Israel's existence and they have more leverage in the White House than all of the opposition put together. Just look at the level of threat the invaded countries were regarded to have been to and by Israel. Then look at the countries now in line for attack i.e. Syria, Iran and Lebanon. With those out of the way, who is left as a threat? no-one. As the twin towers came down, five men dressed as Arabs were seen on an apartment roof in Manhattan with a mounted video camera, high-fiving each other and cheering. When neighbours called the cops, who arrested them fleeing the city in a van containing detonaters and explosives, it was discovered that they were of Israeli origin and all ex - army. Some demolition experts, and others surveillance technicians. You can Google the interview of them on Israeli t.v., where they claimed that they weren't the one's the U.S. should be going after, but that they were only there to ' document the events.'
SAY WHAT ? How did they know there would be any events, and at the time and place where their camera was pointing? I am no Sherlock Holmes but is this not a bit odd? Especially as they and another hundred were arrested, failed polygraphs and were spirited away to whence they came. Now who could have that kind of power in Washington on America's darkest day? Soon after, we heard on the news that Israel is the worst offender in spying on uncle Sam. Like I said, I am no Sherlock Holmes.
Strategist above is on the right track, indeed a third party, try Mossad. Someone said ' cui bono ', who benefits? well oil is pretty much too obvious but not enough reason to go to all that bother, however security and middle east supremacy are crucial to Israel's existence and they have more leverage in the White House than all of the opposition put together. Just look at the level of threat the invaded countries were regarded to have been to and by Israel. Then look at the countries now in line for attack i.e. Syria, Iran and Lebanon. With those out of the way, who is left as a threat? no-one. As the twin towers came down, five men dressed as Arabs were seen on an apartment roof in Manhattan with a mounted video camera, high-fiving each other and cheering. When neighbours called the cops, who arrested them fleeing the city in a van containing detonaters and explosives, it was discovered that they were of Israeli origin and all ex - army. Some demolition experts, and others surveillance technicians. You can Google the interview of them on Israeli t.v., where they claimed that they weren't the one's the U.S. should be going after, but that they were only there to ' document the events.'
SAY WHAT ? How did they know there would be any events, and at the time and place where their camera was pointing? I am no Sherlock Holmes but is this not a bit odd? Especially as they and another hundred were arrested, failed polygraphs and were spirited away to whence they came. Now who could have that kind of power in Washington on America's darkest day? Soon after, we heard on the news that Israel is the worst offender in spying on uncle Sam. Like I said, I am no Sherlock Holmes.
Posted by: nbw on 6:01pm Tue 17 Apr 07
Check out more blatherings and conspiracy theories from "the greatest man in politics??" as Baker likes to describe himself at [bold]Norman Baker Watch[/bold] :
http://normanbakerwatch.blogspot.com/
Check out more blatherings and conspiracy theories from "the greatest man in politics??" as Baker likes to describe himself at
Norman Baker Watch :
http://normanbakerwatch.blogspot.com/
Posted by: blogwatch, UK on 11:57am Wed 18 Apr 07
Hey, nbw, I checked out that site. What are you, a cyber-stalker? Is four crappy little posts the best you can do? Get a job with Rupert, he'll show you how to dig the dirt.
Here's a real blog - http://lataan.blogspot.com
Hey, nbw, I checked out that site. What are you, a cyber-stalker? Is four crappy little posts the best you can do? Get a job with Rupert, he'll show you how to dig the dirt.
Here's a real blog - http://lataan.blogspot.com
Posted by: Joe Craggs, Glasgow on 12:32pm Thu 19 Apr 07
Strategist,I think the same thing about a third party being American.Far and above everyone in the Whitehouse,Dick Cheney's company has profited from Iraq.He has an army of mercenaries called private security agents who may even rival or outnumber the U.S. forces in Iraq. A small force could easily have executed Kelly as these guys are ex-special forces.Cheney also has the lions share of building contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan.He is well known as Bushes boss on the hill and is pushing more than anyone,apart from his psycho-daughter Liz,for an attack on Iran.She is even fighting like a tigress with cubs to block peace talks between Israel and Syria .The Cheneys have definately made more from this tickityboo than any other individuals.
Strategist,I think the same thing about a third party being American.Far and above everyone in the Whitehouse,Dick Cheney's company has profited from Iraq.He has an army of mercenaries called private security agents who may even rival or outnumber the U.S. forces in Iraq. A small force could easily have executed Kelly as these guys are ex-special forces.Cheney also has the lions share of building contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan.He is well known as Bushes boss on the hill and is pushing more than anyone,apart from his psycho-daughter Liz,for an attack on Iran.She is even fighting like a tigress with cubs to block peace talks between Israel and Syria .The Cheneys have definately made more from this tickityboo than any other individuals.
Posted by: Rocky Rosebud, London on 12:41pm Sun 21 Oct 07
Norman Baker gave enough information about his "secret informants" to allow anyone who has ever looked at conspiracies theories to identify them as Walter Mitty characters who have been pestering the media for years. The man he met in Exeter after James Bond-style contacts through public phones is Rocky Cahill, who was involved in the Scott Inquiry into the Iraqi supergun. Real name Kevin James Cahill, he poses sometimes as a freelance journalist. Anyone looking at Baker's sources should check out Cahill and his fantasies about working for The Sunday Times while an undercover intelligence officer. He is an off-the-wall media groupie. The other "secret agent" who met Baker after walking into the Commons is Agent Rosebud, whose real name is Thomas Francis Doherty, now changed by deed-poll to Samuel Jay Rosenfeld. He lives in Forest Gate and was the "informant" who tipped off MI5 about a Muslim conspiracy in Forest Gate. The resulting raid in which one of two Islamic brothers was shot in his own house was a fiasco which embarrassed Tony Blair. Norman Baker is going to be really embarrassed, perhaps to the point where his opponents will make him such a laughing stock that he will lose his seat to the Tories next time around. Remember the names Norman, Rocky Kevin James Cahill and Tommy Agent Rosebud now using the name Samuel Jay Rosenthal.
Norman Baker gave enough information about his "secret informants" to allow anyone who has ever looked at conspiracies theories to identify them as Walter Mitty characters who have been pestering the media for years. The man he met in Exeter after James Bond-style contacts through public phones is Rocky Cahill, who was involved in the Scott Inquiry into the Iraqi supergun. Real name Kevin James Cahill, he poses sometimes as a freelance journalist. Anyone looking at Baker's sources should check out Cahill and his fantasies about working for The Sunday Times while an undercover intelligence officer. He is an off-the-wall media groupie. The other "secret agent" who met Baker after walking into the Commons is Agent Rosebud, whose real name is Thomas Francis Doherty, now changed by deed-poll to Samuel Jay Rosenfeld. He lives in Forest Gate and was the "informant" who tipped off MI5 about a Muslim conspiracy in Forest Gate. The resulting raid in which one of two Islamic brothers was shot in his own house was a fiasco which embarrassed Tony Blair. Norman Baker is going to be really embarrassed, perhaps to the point where his opponents will make him such a laughing stock that he will lose his seat to the Tories next time around. Remember the names Norman, Rocky Kevin James Cahill and Tommy Agent Rosebud now using the name Samuel Jay Rosenthal.
Posted by: Bella, London on 11:49pm Tue 23 Oct 07
honest, upright and with true leadership qualities.I really don't believe that I have ever read such pith about TB. Dr Kelly murdered? Yes more than likely, in my humble opinion. But then there are those that would say |Another conspiracy theory" We're British it just wouldn't happen here! Ok & Churchill didn't let Coventry burn.
honest, upright and with true leadership qualities.I really don't believe that I have ever read such pith about TB. Dr Kelly murdered? Yes more than likely, in my humble opinion. But then there are those that would say |Another conspiracy theory" We're British it just wouldn't happen here! Ok & Churchill didn't let Coventry burn.
Posted by: joe, Bristol on 11:15pm Sat 5 Apr 08
Sad people who say things like ' the government would never do something that' live in a complete la la land of naivety and innocence. Get real. Things that have to be done get done.
I'm sure most of the public realise some very unsavoury things happen from time to time. For the good or less good of the country. To go around thinking that because the government wants to reduce road deaths or heart disease levels that they wouldn't bump off dangerous or leaky people then that is total niavety and stupidity.
It's well known that Robin Cook had started to get a bit 'mouthy/leaky' where the official secrets act was concerned, just before he died. Thats fact.
Sad people who say things like ' the government would never do something that' live in a complete la la land of naivety and innocence. Get real. Things that have to be done get done.
I'm sure most of the public realise some very unsavoury things happen from time to time. For the good or less good of the country. To go around thinking that because the government wants to reduce road deaths or heart disease levels that they wouldn't bump off dangerous or leaky people then that is total niavety and stupidity.
It's well known that Robin Cook had started to get a bit 'mouthy/leaky' where the official secrets act was concerned, just before he died. Thats fact.
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