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Councillors' claims hit £800,000 for a year

10:05pm Thursday 9th August 2007

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By Lawrence Marzouk »

City councillors claimed £800,000 in allowances and expenses for the past year.

Campaigners fighting for a more prudent use of resources said that some councillors were earning too much as Brighton and Hove City Council's members published their annual allowances.

Opponents also branded the bill as a drain on struggling families.

The allowance bill is up £15,000 compared to the previous year mainly because all councillors' basic allowance increased by £230.

Top earner was Simon Burgess, former leader of the council and now parliamentary candidate for Kemptown, who earned £38,290 a year.

This included £10,681 for his basic allowance, £27,000 for his role as leader and £163 for travel and subsistence. Previous leader Ken Bodfish had taken home £33,622 the year before.

Other high earners include former deputy leader Sue John who was handed £27,000 and Coun Gill Mitchell, now leader of the council's Labour party, who took home £26,000.

The opposition leader at the time Brian Oxley, as well as the chairmen and women of the council's committees, all recouped around £23,000 from taxpayers.

The highest travel and subsistence allowance was claimed by former councillors Brian Fitch and Don Turner.

Mr Fitch, who lost his seat in Hangleton and Knoll at the last election, had been the city's representative on the International Association of Peace Messenger Cities.

This had guaranteed him £2,000 per year for his travels to destinations such as Venezuela and Poland. The city's membership has now been cancelled.

Next year's allowance has already been agreed and the bill to the taxpayer is set to rise by another £15,000.

Blair Gibbs, campaign director of the Tax Payers' Alliance, said: "The number of councillors and their expenses have increased enormously over the past few years.

"Some councils admit that there are too many.

"Along with city salaries for top town hall staff, expenses have become unaffordable and a drain on taxpayers, especially with families struggling with the demands of above-inflation council tax rises.

"Years ago it was considered a privilege to stand as a councillor, but now people can make a quite lucrative career for themselves out of local government."

But a recent report by the council's Independent Remuneration Panel found councillors were being worked very hard for their money.

It read: "Despite the time commitment involved and increasing demands placed upon them, we note that the concept of public service and civic duty continues to be clearly upheld by councillors.

"We accept that this concept of public service should remain and consider that a proportion of any time spent should be regarded as voluntary commitment.

"Notwithstanding the above, we believe that the council should provide a package of financial support which is reasonable, and will go some way towards addressing disincentives from serving in local politics.

"In the discussions with members it has become evident that councillors have difficulty in securing support from their employers for their council-related activities.

"It has also become clear that councillors find it difficult to maintain a work/life balance with council related duties having a significant impact on their lives."

Coun Brian Oxley, leader of the council, said that £38,000 was not an excessive allowance for the head of a large authority like Brighton and Hove. He said: "This is a city of 250,000 people and there are responsibilities from the huge amount of services needed. "The Government demands are a complicated business these days and it is more than a full-time job."

To see a full list of members' allowances and expenses click on the links below.

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Would you consider becoming a councillor after seeing some of the expense claims? Is being a councillor now more like a full-time job? Tell us what you think below.

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Rob, Hove says...
9:52am Wed 8 Aug 07

What do these people do to deserve milking this gravy train? There should be much more control over expenses, with money paid against receipts only, on previously agreed expenditure. In other words, every penny of our hard earned, hard taxed money paid over in Council tax should only be given to these people if there is a valid reason only, and there should be a ceiling per annum. And shouldn't Gill Mitchell in particular only be claiming minimal money as she should practice what she preaches unto others and go everywhere by bicycle, or on foot - no excuses! Quite frankly, I am fed up with year on year increases in council tax against reducing returns. I want value for money.

chas, 7 dials says...
10:20am Wed 8 Aug 07

worth every penny

bill, BN0 says...
10:36am Wed 8 Aug 07

rob: all expenses are backed up by receipts already.
Note that one councillor chose not to take her annual increase. All pay income tax on these earnings.
All have other sources of income or jobs, but the amount is not declared. Some even have partners to bolster their joint incomes.

Steve, Hove says...
10:37am Wed 8 Aug 07

Councillors should be paid for doing a responsible job - it's a salary, not expenses. Otherwise we'll end with a load of white middle class well off or retired people running our city (Tories!)

John, Brunswick says...
10:56am Wed 8 Aug 07

Yes, Argus gets it wrong, this is not expenses it is the whole figure including the basic allowance for the time spent in lieu of salary.
Also, "taxpayers alliance" rent-a-quote, the number of councillors has decreased over the years, not increased, not anywhere.

Louis, Brighton says...
11:36am Wed 8 Aug 07

All these moaners should put up or shut up. There has just been an Election. Where were they? Did they stand and offer to do it free?

bill, BN0 says...
12:32pm Wed 8 Aug 07

even the council's own website has not got these figures yet!!

Dave, Brighton says...
3:46pm Wed 8 Aug 07

Everyone of them is lying scum,they just con the taxpayers.The job should be done for free,part time,and by different people.

David Obugando, Brighton says...
4:02pm Wed 8 Aug 07

Steve wrote:
Councillors should be paid for doing a responsible job - it's a salary, not expenses. Otherwise we'll end with a load of white middle class well off or retired people running our city (Tories!)
Oh dear, resorting to Racists Slurs and class bigotry.There is no need for it. What has a persons race or colour got to do with their ability to do a job in an unbiased fashion. Who cares if people are white, black, yellow, pink or green. How can harmony be achieved when people have views like yours. I do not condemn you for your veiws, but would implore you to take the time to speak to other people and re-assess them, as I think you views are ill-concieved and miss-imformed. Regards.

ComradeK, Brighton says...
5:37pm Wed 8 Aug 07

While Steve was wrong to insult OUR city councillors in the way he did, David should have a look at who the majority of our councillors are: i.e. white, middle class well off mostly retired people. Not really a true reflection of the populace of OUR city is it?

And we're not going to acheive 'harmony' when city councillors can vote themselves such high expenses year on year while the rest of us struggle to pay the inflated bills.

The people of this city are receiving less public services every year and yet our councillors are getting more more and our local tax keeps going up.

We need people who live the same lifestyles as the average Brightonian/Hovite so that they know what it's like to live here and put up with the problems we have so we can solve them. How can these highly paid councillors know what it's like for us?

And yes Louis, we did stand in the elections offering people a cut to council tax, to build more council homes, to stop the waste transfer site at Hollingdean and for a workers' councillor on workers' wage.

But you lot are forced to vote for 'the lesser of the evils' becasue of the first past the post system of 'democracy' we have meaning true representatives for the people of this city could not be elected.

I know it's not a wage but when they get so much it sure does feel like it listening to my empty wallet!

PC Watch, The Nick says...
5:44pm Wed 8 Aug 07

David Obugando wrote:
Steve wrote: Councillors should be paid for doing a responsible job - it's a salary, not expenses. Otherwise we'll end with a load of white middle class well off or retired people running our city (Tories!)
Oh dear, resorting to Racists Slurs and class bigotry.There is no need for it. What has a persons race or colour got to do with their ability to do a job in an unbiased fashion. Who cares if people are white, black, yellow, pink or green. How can harmony be achieved when people have views like yours. I do not condemn you for your veiws, but would implore you to take the time to speak to other people and re-assess them, as I think you views are ill-concieved and miss-imformed. Regards.
I hardly think this is a racist slur even if you do put it in bold letters, Mr Obugando. Even less class bigotry. Perhaps Steve has used a bit of a generalisation to stress his point but why does a person have to become racist simply because they use a term relating to race?

I suggest that it is you who has a chip on your shoulder about race and perhaps you who should re-assess your overly PC views.

I hate Chav Scum, says...
8:11pm Wed 8 Aug 07

While Steve was wrong to insult OUR city councillors in the way he did, David should have a look at who the majority of our councillors are: i.e. white, middle class well off mostly retired people. Not really a true reflection of the populace of OUR city is it?

YAY ! Let's get a load of leather clad wearing poofters to run the council. That'd be a good idea.


NOT.

greyrun, Hove says...
11:29pm Wed 8 Aug 07

Steve wrote:
Councillors should be paid for doing a responsible job - it's a salary, not expenses. Otherwise we'll end with a load of white middle class well off or retired people running our city (Tories!)
White middle class, what like Tony Blair and Gordon Brown,beware patronising middle class socialists the curse of the working class.

Cllr Warren Morgan, East Brighton says...
11:59pm Wed 8 Aug 07

Steve's right, not being able to afford to give up 40+ hours a week should not be a bar to becoming a councillor. £11k basic is quite a lot of money compared to some on low wages but hardly "lucrative", however constituents do expect councillors to be on-call all of the time - there is a lot of evening and weekend work particularly in a ward like mine with around 20 community & residents groups. The hours and work involved are logged by the Independent Remuneration Panel and they decide what level allowances should be set at. In my four years on the council there has never been any move from councillors themselves to make the remuneration levels higher than those proposed by the IRP. Councillors do have to make some pretty important decisions - you only have to read The Argus to see how controversial and difficult they can be - so you want as representative a council as you can get in terms of age, ethnicity, gender and so on. It's true that a hundred years ago people were not paid - but then they were almost exclusively older, retired and wealthy men. I enjoy the role and the responsibility and I try to work hard for my constituents on a whole range of non-political stuff which never makes the pages of the Argus. I don't expect to get rich on it but like everyone else there are bills to pay. And of course every four years you have to persuade several thousand people that you are worth the money and should keep your job.

Brian, Brighton says...
1:45pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Dear Mr Obugando I think your comment Re; Racist Slur and Class Bigotry is wrong. I expect that you may have other motives to your comments and nothing to do with the subject in hand.

Louis, Brightn says...
9:01pm Thu 9 Aug 07

It is all very well for Comrade K to say that he stood for the Council and promised all that stuff (to fulfill it is another matter), but Comrade ducks the question of whether he would have done the work as a Councillor free.

I rather suspect that if Comrade had got in, he would have found that the job involves rather more than he envsaged - as Warren Morgan has suggested.

I cannot believe that Comrade's heart would have leapt with joy every time the phone rang!

I cannot quite picture Comrade sat round his table - all alone - and trying to get his head round a balance sheet with all those promises he made above. Rhetoric is easier than nuts and bolts.

Criticise councillors by all means, but to say that they are lavishly paid is no argument.

Plumbing is a better career move.

Beverley Weaver, Portslade says...
11:21pm Thu 9 Aug 07

As the previous leader of the council was well overpaid, what are his expenses going to be if he ever got to Parliament.
What have these councillors achieved to be paid so HIGH?
Could I be a councillor - NEVER.
I like being a hands on tenant rep helping not just my area but across the city - more than anything I do this FREE,

Bob, Brighton says...
11:40pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Send them a bill Beverley.

They only do what the Executive tell them to anyway, because the Executive is 'professional' and councillors part time amateurs. Councillors are excess.
Oh no, hang on, that would mean democracy isn't, like, erm , working.....totally agree with the 'scum' comments above.

Kit Napier, Hove says...
7:13am Fri 10 Aug 07

Snouts in troughs is the obvious comparison, what have the likes of Burgess and Mitchell contributed to improve anything within the city over the last couple of years ? answer nothing they have taken us backwards and been bloody well paid for doing it.

ComradeK, Brighton says...
2:26pm Fri 10 Aug 07

The group I campaign with in Brighton stood in the elections because all the other parties are told what to do from their bosses in London. And who else did you meet on your doorstep that was fighting to save hospitals for closure, fight against PFI contracts and against privatisation. Fighting against the waste site at Hollingdean, free public transport to help the environment, etc????? hey???? who else????

Why do you lot think that the council tried to privatise all 13,500 council homes earlier this year? Why is our council tax going up and up and up even though we're getting less and less and less in return????

And it would be foolish to do the job for free unless they'd let councillors sleep in the council chamber and the public donated food and drink. Read my first comment on electing and paying representatives an an average wage.

But we do need councillors that fight on behalf of the people of this city and do a much better job than the current batch so that they are deserving of such expenses. We know they need something for taking time out from their work to make decisions abourt OUR city.

But remember, people are struggling to pay to live here and pay the inflated council tax bills. Councillors are given our money to play with and yet we have no democratic right to recall them if a sufficient majority wants them out!

Where's our deomcratic right to recall?

And Louis: its a shame you immediately think the worst in people you haven't even met. What would you have been like if you'd met Jesus or Mother Teresa: laughed at them for being so giving and kind. These are positive aspects that we need to encourage in society so it becomes a better place to live. And I would have rather you came up with an intelligent criticism of what I said rather than simply being negative.

Oh well. Live and learn.

reg moores, Brighton says...
6:23pm Fri 10 Aug 07

I have for decades, done more work, than many of the MPs & Councillors, free at my own time & expense. Fullest details available. Cheers Reg Moores

reg moores, Brighton says...
6:24pm Fri 10 Aug 07

I have for decades, done more work, than many of the MPs & Councillors, free at my own time & expense. Fullest details available. Cheers Reg Moores

reg moores, Brighton says...
6:24pm Fri 10 Aug 07

I have for decades, done more work, than many of the MPs & Councillors, free at my own time & expense. Fullest details available. Cheers Reg Moores

arnold, hove says...
6:37pm Fri 10 Aug 07

Calm down reg, we heard you the first time!

Rob Whittle, Norwich says...
6:38pm Fri 10 Aug 07

Just so resideints of Brighton have a comparison of expenses with other City Council.

Norwich CC councillors are paid a yearly allowance of £7,500pa, it is slightly more for Cabinet leaders (add £1000-1500). It only recenty increased this year from under £5,000.

So this is 40 good quality councillors doing regular council business and representing ward constituents. So we are looking at a total bill of under £400,000 for 40 councillors.

The question Brighton and Howe must ask is are they getting quality or not, are they paying good value for money or is there a gravey train.

Here in Norwich the council helped get rid of our 150,000 tonnepa incinerator by WRG, acheived it and got an MBT/AD plant instead. B & H councillors, including Green Party councillors seem to have largely given up, or spend their time gagging party activists.

I think I'd be wanting more for each on £15,000, or ask a rebate for failing on the Veolia incinerator.

Rob Whittle, Norwich says...
7:28pm Fri 10 Aug 07

The following EEN article June 2006 makes interesting reading.

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The population of Norfolk is 830,000, with 330 district and county serving councillors, Total Bill (£2.6m) or average just under £8,000 each.

Norwich as I have mentioned is £7,500 for city ward councillor. Norwich has a population of 140,000. Councillors have the normal responsiblities such as planning, roads, licencing, budgets, scrutiny, waste collection and recycling, neighbourhoods and communities.

The problem with some councils is that they effectively pay themselves, rubber stamping internal reports when the process should be determined externally and independently.

Additionally there is a modern fashion by cabinet members to wish to equate their allowance levels with their professional local officers salaries, effectively assuming professional market place political status.

Mr G, Brighton says...
12:53am Sat 11 Aug 07

I've nothing particularly against councillors claiming expenses, especially in a large city like Brighton. However, this council was the worst that we have ever had. Self obsessed, non listening, loony liberal and anti-car amongst other things. What a complete waste of money. I've always voted labour for my entire adult life but could not bring myself to vote for this lot in May. Thank goodness most of them are gone. Hopefully I won't regard next years expenses as a waste of money now we have a new council.

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