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Newhaven incinerator plans in doubt
Controversial plans to build an incinerator have been thrown into doubt, it emerged today.
East Sussex County Council has been forced to reconsider its decision to grant planning permission for the Newhaven incinerator.
Changes in the Government's planning policies mean the authority's decision to build the plant in North Quay could be challenged.
On September 27 the Government's new local development framework came into effect and replaced the former local development plans.
The council granted planning permission to Veolia in February.
Now opponents to the scheme believe the decision might fall foul of the Government's requirements as laid out in the new framework.
East Sussex has announced it will hold a planning committee meeting, probably on November 7, to reconsider the planning application.
The council will reconsider the application ahead of the compulsory purchase inquiry which begins on November 13.
The authority has applied for the compulsory purchase order to facilitate the purchase of the land for incinerator by Veolia.
Alan Edgar, a planning consultant to various objectors to the scheme, said: "In the context of the huge amount of objections to the incinerator, which is some 16,000 people, it is obvious the county council is making sure that it doesn't fall foul of any of the regulations.
"It is obvious that they are concerned that the original planning permission decision could be challenged."
Campaigners insist the incinerator, which will process 210,000 tonnes of refuse annually, will be an eyesore and have a negative impact on the environment.
An East Sussex County Council spokesman said: "Since the meeting at which the (planning) committee approved the application in February, the Government has removed various policies from development plans.
"The county council and all other local authorities were told at the end of September which policies were being removed.
"As a result, the county council's planning committee will reconsider the planning application in the light of current development plan policies."
9:34pm Monday 22nd October 2007
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CommentPosted by: Spanish Gentleman, At Barcombe Mills waiting for our neighbour to go the same way on 10:00pm Mon 22 Oct 07
I got the wrong end of the stick on this one I thought the Newhaven Incinerator was some dastardly device designed by some super villian with a grudge against that fine port town and Gateway to Europe (tm). Perhaps the Tideway School fire was just a dry run for more evil deeds?
I got the wrong end of the stick on this one I thought the Newhaven Incinerator was some dastardly device designed by some super villian with a grudge against that fine port town and Gateway to Europe (tm). Perhaps the Tideway School fire was just a dry run for more evil deeds?
Posted by: Dave of Newhaven, newhaven on 10:02pm Mon 22 Oct 07
Could create an eyesore? In Newhaven? If you go to Newhaven you 'll realise its all we deserve here.
Could create an eyesore? In Newhaven? If you go to Newhaven you 'll realise its all we deserve here.
Posted by: Stephen, Hove on 11:13pm Mon 22 Oct 07
Oh good. Does that also mean the WTF at 5ways is illegal too?
Oh good. Does that also mean the WTF at 5ways is illegal too?
Posted by: Norman, Lewes on 12:08am Tue 23 Oct 07
First the Eastbourne Parking scheme is put on hold and now the incinerator.
Things not going too well in County Hall at the moment then?
First the Eastbourne Parking scheme is put on hold and now the incinerator.
Things not going too well in County Hall at the moment then?
Posted by: Jim Lahey, Sunnyvale on 10:13am Tue 23 Oct 07
Yet another body blow to Newhaven, more potential lost jobs. And Stephen from Hove, I agree, the depot in Hollingbury should be turned back to its original use as an abattoir with traditional as well as kosher and halal slaughter, this would lead to a lower carbon footprint for our food (we raise quality sheep & cattle locally) also visits could be arranged for local schools to give kids a better understanding of how meat is processed, you could even let some of the more adventurous kids 'have a go' who knows Brighton may then boast that it produces some of the best slaughter men in the UK. Oh but to dream!
Yet another body blow to Newhaven, more potential lost jobs. And Stephen from Hove, I agree, the depot in Hollingbury should be turned back to its original use as an abattoir with traditional as well as kosher and halal slaughter, this would lead to a lower carbon footprint for our food (we raise quality sheep & cattle locally) also visits could be arranged for local schools to give kids a better understanding of how meat is processed, you could even let some of the more adventurous kids 'have a go' who knows Brighton may then boast that it produces some of the best slaughter men in the UK. Oh but to dream!
Posted by: Derek, Brighton on 11:22am Tue 23 Oct 07
If democracy meant anything in this country, they'd have put these unpopular and unnecessary plans on hold and looked at how hundreds of millions of pounds could be better spent improving recycling rates and reducing packaging and food miles in the first place.
Our local political leaders should have asked ministers and civil servants in London to negotiate with the European Union over the deadline that we've missed to reduce landfill. It would be better to reduce landfill by sustainable means than to build an incinerator that will harm the environment and people's health.
East Sussex County Council should look at this forthcoming meeting as a vital opportunity to avoid leaving a lasting legacy of death and illness, particularly among some of the most vulnerable sections of society. If the individuals involved have any conscience, they should examine why the US - which favours unrestrained free trade - imposes much more rigid rules on incinerators than we do. They should do this quickly and act on it.
Perhaps then, fewer people might be cynical about politics, politicians and councils.
If democracy meant anything in this country, they'd have put these unpopular and unnecessary plans on hold and looked at how hundreds of millions of pounds could be better spent improving recycling rates and reducing packaging and food miles in the first place.
Our local political leaders should have asked ministers and civil servants in London to negotiate with the European Union over the deadline that we've missed to reduce landfill. It would be better to reduce landfill by sustainable means than to build an incinerator that will harm the environment and people's health.
East Sussex County Council should look at this forthcoming meeting as a vital opportunity to avoid leaving a lasting legacy of death and illness, particularly among some of the most vulnerable sections of society. If the individuals involved have any conscience, they should examine why the US - which favours unrestrained free trade - imposes much more rigid rules on incinerators than we do. They should do this quickly and act on it.
Perhaps then, fewer people might be cynical about politics, politicians and councils.
Posted by: Disco Inferno, Hades on 11:54am Tue 23 Oct 07
Sorry Derek you are wrong. The best way to get rid of rubbish is to burn it, that's obvious. Once it's burnt it cannot come back.
Recycling stuff just means loads of hassle and getting confused over which bin is which.
If people think that a bit of rubbish being burnt is going to kill us all then why not ban cars? Then we would not be able to get to the supermarket to buy all this stuff in the first place.
Its political correctness gone mad. I am going to live on the downs and catch rabbits.
Sorry Derek you are wrong. The best way to get rid of rubbish is to burn it, that's obvious. Once it's burnt it cannot come back.
Recycling stuff just means loads of hassle and getting confused over which bin is which.
If people think that a bit of rubbish being burnt is going to kill us all then why not ban cars? Then we would not be able to get to the supermarket to buy all this stuff in the first place.
Its political correctness gone mad. I am going to live on the downs and catch rabbits.
Posted by: Leonard, Hove on 1:31pm Tue 23 Oct 07
[quote]Sorry Derek you are wrong. The best way to get rid of rubbish is to burn it, that's obvious. Once it's burnt it cannot come back.[/quote]
Sounds as though someone's never tried composting or washed the plates after a meal, done the laundry or to re-use all those dirty clothes or recycled scrap paper by writing/printing on the reverse.
Oh and try visiting a mechanised recovery and recycling centre and learn what can be done with remarkably little effort and investment to make what we have go further without burning it.
We may have to burn some things in life, including most fuels to generate energy, but there are plenty of sensible alternatives involving hardly any hassle.
I'm sorry to learn Disco Inferno gets so confused and just hope it isn't a degenerative condition.
Sorry Derek you are wrong. The best way to get rid of rubbish is to burn it, that's obvious. Once it's burnt it cannot come back.
Sounds as though someone's never tried composting or washed the plates after a meal, done the laundry or to re-use all those dirty clothes or recycled scrap paper by writing/printing on the reverse.
Oh and try visiting a mechanised recovery and recycling centre and learn what can be done with remarkably little effort and investment to make what we have go further without burning it.
We may have to burn some things in life, including most fuels to generate energy, but there are plenty of sensible alternatives involving hardly any hassle.
I'm sorry to learn Disco Inferno gets so confused and just hope it isn't a degenerative condition.
Posted by: Robert, Brighton on 4:18pm Tue 23 Oct 07
One meeting the contract is extended and the next they want to consider terminating it.
Who is in charge of this?
One meeting the contract is extended and the next they want to consider terminating it.
Who is in charge of this?
Posted by: Stephen, Hove on 8:57pm Tue 23 Oct 07
Farce.
Posted by: graham, hove on 7:27am Wed 24 Oct 07
The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is reaching a point where the global changes to our planet will be out of control.
The oceans can accept no more, the land can absorb no more.
do we really think global warming will result in Brighton being just like the riviera? It won't stop there, well maybe for a period of 10 years, then it'll be a desert in 200 years forever.
So against that backdrop Mr council leaders, if we're sensible then the limits to CO2 emissions will be hard hitting and come sooner than we all thought. So are we really tied into this contract for 25 years, even after we have to stop burning rubbish?
By the way, if anyone wants to argue the archaic view that globaly warming is a myth, you may want to reflect on the fact that even George Bush's chief scientist has been finally allowed to state that there is 95% certainty humans are causing this warming. Plus we only have one planet, so do you really think it's worth taking a chance that is may be a myth?
The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is reaching a point where the global changes to our planet will be out of control.
The oceans can accept no more, the land can absorb no more.
do we really think global warming will result in Brighton being just like the riviera? It won't stop there, well maybe for a period of 10 years, then it'll be a desert in 200 years forever.
So against that backdrop Mr council leaders, if we're sensible then the limits to CO2 emissions will be hard hitting and come sooner than we all thought. So are we really tied into this contract for 25 years, even after we have to stop burning rubbish?
By the way, if anyone wants to argue the archaic view that globaly warming is a myth, you may want to reflect on the fact that even George Bush's chief scientist has been finally allowed to state that there is 95% certainty humans are causing this warming. Plus we only have one planet, so do you really think it's worth taking a chance that is may be a myth?
Posted by: Michael Ryan, Shrewsbury on 12:07pm Wed 24 Oct 07
Those who still think that incinerator emissions do not harm health should think about the location of each of the forty-three electoral wards in London where there have been zero infant deaths in each of the four years 2003-6, as these wards are all free from incinerator emissions.
If incinerators are linked with high infant mortality, then the electoral wards around such installations will be high.
Are you awake at the back there?
Good.
There are forty-two electoral wards in London with infant mortality rates in 2003-6 of 10.0 deaths per 1,000 live births and above.
Out of the twelve electoral wards with the highest infant mortality rates, seven were in close proximity to Edmonton incinerator.
The other five were close to, or within range of emissions from, one or more of the following incinerators:
1. St Mark's Hospital, Northwick Park
2. Hillingdon Hospital
3. Colnbrook
4. SELCHP
Those who advocate "Zero Waste" should be delighted that the City of Ottawa is going for plasma gasification to achieve "zero waste" without health damage.
Kind regards,
Michael Ryan
Campaign Co-ordinator
Safe Waste in Shropshire
Hillingdon
Those who still think that incinerator emissions do not harm health should think about the location of each of the forty-three electoral wards in London where there have been zero infant deaths in each of the four years 2003-6, as these wards are all free from incinerator emissions.
If incinerators are linked with high infant mortality, then the electoral wards around such installations will be high.
Are you awake at the back there?
Good.
There are forty-two electoral wards in London with infant mortality rates in 2003-6 of 10.0 deaths per 1,000 live births and above.
Out of the twelve electoral wards with the highest infant mortality rates, seven were in close proximity to Edmonton incinerator.
The other five were close to, or within range of emissions from, one or more of the following incinerators:
1. St Mark's Hospital, Northwick Park
2. Hillingdon Hospital
3. Colnbrook
4. SELCHP
Those who advocate "Zero Waste" should be delighted that the City of Ottawa is going for plasma gasification to achieve "zero waste" without health damage.
Kind regards,
Michael Ryan
Campaign Co-ordinator
Safe Waste in Shropshire
Hillingdon
Posted by: Tom, Brighton on 7:37pm Sat 27 Oct 07
Disco Infuriating couldn't recycle two brain cells rather than rub two PM2.5s together, or know about the several proven better alternatives. Recycling is common sense since the Romans, piggeries, WWII waste not campaign, not PC; its a recent "wasters" mentality that needs to change and wind its neck in.
Disco Infuriating couldn't recycle two brain cells rather than rub two PM2.5s together, or know about the several proven better alternatives. Recycling is common sense since the Romans, piggeries, WWII waste not campaign, not PC; its a recent "wasters" mentality that needs to change and wind its neck in.
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