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Whitehawk crash victim named
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| Matthew Sadler |
A teenager who died in a car being followed by police has been named by friends.
Matt Sadler, 17, was taken to the Royal Sussex County Hospital early on Saturday morning but died of his injuries.
A police patrol car saw a red Mazda containing three men and two women, all from Whitehawk, being driven erratically in Bevendean, Brighton, at 1am on Saturday, and signalled it to stop.
The driver did not respond and was followed by a police car to Whitehawk, Brighton. He crashed into a brick wall in Wilson Avenue and careered through two gardens.
All five were taken to the Royal Sussex County Hospital.
Matty died and a 16-year-old youth remains in critical condition.
A 15-year-old girl was discharged earlier today and the 15-year-old driver and another 15-year-old girl are recovering.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission(IPCC) has launched an investigation into the crash and has deployed two investigators to the scene.
IPCC commissioner Tom Davies said: "My condolences go to the family and
friends of the dead man.
"This must have been a traumatic incident for everybody involved, including the members of the emergency services who attended.
"The IPCC investigation will be independent and proportionate."
Some 14 police cars, a fire engine and police helicopter were called to the scene, according to a neighbour.
Sussex Police arrested the driver of the car who tried to flee but was located by the police helicopter.
Warren Morgan, Whitehawk councillor and chairman of the Whitehawk Crime Prevention Forum, said: "My thoughts are with the families of those people involved in the crash.
"If it is confirmed that they are from Whitehawk I am sure that the strong local community there will want to focus on supporting those families as they deal with what has happened.
"The Independent Police Complaints Commission are investigating what took place and everyone should await the outcome of that investigation before giving any further reaction."
Mary Mears, deputy leader of Brighton and Hove City Council, said: "It is very tragic and we will be working with the community to help them through."
A spokeswoman for the South East Ambulance Service said: "We did everything we could to save the patient.
"This was a dreadful incident and our thoughts are with the families."
IPCC said it could not comment on the identity of the dead teenager.
6:52pm Saturday 9th February 2008
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CommentPosted by: Numpty, Numpty on 7:10pm Sat 9 Feb 08
My condolences go out to the family of Matt, I don't know the family but anyone's life cut short is a tradgey, it's a shame that this could have been avoided.
My condolences go out to the family of Matt, I don't know the family but anyone's life cut short is a tradgey, it's a shame that this could have been avoided.
Posted by: jo, southwick on 7:23pm Sat 9 Feb 08
this is very sad, but what was a 15 year old doing driving!! lucky the didnt crash into another car maybe carrying a family!!
this is very sad, but what was a 15 year old doing driving!! lucky the didnt crash into another car maybe carrying a family!!
Posted by: a boy 4 white hawk, white hawk on 7:26pm Sat 9 Feb 08
what are u trying to say that whitehawk is a bad place and we dont deserve to get help a boy died so leave the place alone and give your respect
what are u trying to say that whitehawk is a bad place and we dont deserve to get help a boy died so leave the place alone and give your respect
Posted by: a boy in whitehawk, whitehawk on 7:33pm Sat 9 Feb 08
he is not the first 15 year old to do this and will not be the last as tragic as it is not what it is about a young lad lost his life so show your respect to a young noy named mat died in a crash so back down m8 think of his mum and dad what they are going through
R>I>P :(
mat
he is not the first 15 year old to do this and will not be the last as tragic as it is not what it is about a young lad lost his life so show your respect to a young noy named mat died in a crash so back down m8 think of his mum and dad what they are going through
R>I>P :(
mat
Posted by: Abiding Citizen, Brighton on 7:37pm Sat 9 Feb 08
[quote][bold]a boy 4 white hawk[/bold] wrote:
what are u trying to say that whitehawk is a bad place and we dont deserve to get help a boy died so leave the place alone and give your respect [/quote] Yes, I am saying that it is not the best place, and why should preferential treatment be given, just because the person who has died came from that part of town. If the boy who died came from Hove Park, would the council help he residents of that area 'deal' with their loss? I doubt it very much.
a boy 4 white hawk wrote:
what are u trying to say that whitehawk is a bad place and we dont deserve to get help a boy died so leave the place alone and give your respect
Yes, I am saying that it is not the best place, and why should preferential treatment be given, just because the person who has died came from that part of town. If the boy who died came from Hove Park, would the council help he residents of that area 'deal' with their loss? I doubt it very much.
Posted by: boy 4 white hawk, whitehawk on 7:43pm Sat 9 Feb 08
leave us alone he died so show your respect and if som1 in were ever u come from we would give are respect to them so show it plzz it aint worth fighting and the wall don t matter now its the life that was lost so show it plzz
leave us alone he died so show your respect and if som1 in were ever u come from we would give are respect to them so show it plzz it aint worth fighting and the wall don t matter now its the life that was lost so show it plzz
Posted by: TYSON, whitehawk on 8:03pm Sat 9 Feb 08
My daughter's 8 year old best friend lives in a bungalow in Wilson Avenue near these - her bedroom is the front room. There have been other crashes in this road where cars have gone into the house itself. If I owned one of those houses I'd put it on the market on Monday...
My daughter's 8 year old best friend lives in a bungalow in Wilson Avenue near these - her bedroom is the front room. There have been other crashes in this road where cars have gone into the house itself. If I owned one of those houses I'd put it on the market on Monday...
Posted by: matts sister, brighton on 8:06pm Sat 9 Feb 08
[bold]you small minded low lifes we dont need u writing pathetic messages just imagne if it was your kid and **** the wall[/bold] [bold]bold[/bold]
you small minded low lifes we dont need u writing pathetic messages just imagne if it was your kid and **** the wall Posted by: Tia, Brighton on 8:09pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Im Sorry To Her About Matty .. My Heart Is With His Friends & Family .. I Cant Begin To Imagine What They Must Be Going Through .. But There Was Also Another Girl Who Died This Morning So My Heart Goes To Her Family & Friends Aswell ..I Knew Chelsea & Wish That Things Had Turnt Out Better Between Us.. Didnt Know Matty But Wish I Did ... He Seems Like A Lovely Guy xx
R.I.P Matty
R.I.P Chelsea
Im Sorry To Her About Matty .. My Heart Is With His Friends & Family .. I Cant Begin To Imagine What They Must Be Going Through .. But There Was Also Another Girl Who Died This Morning So My Heart Goes To Her Family & Friends Aswell ..I Knew Chelsea & Wish That Things Had Turnt Out Better Between Us.. Didnt Know Matty But Wish I Did ... He Seems Like A Lovely Guy xx
R.I.P Matty
R.I.P Chelsea
Posted by: Tia, Brighton on 8:13pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Its Wall That Can Be Fixed.. But These Peoples Lives Cant..
Im Sorry To Hear About Your Wall Lol
xx
Its Wall That Can Be Fixed.. But These Peoples Lives Cant..
Im Sorry To Hear About Your Wall Lol
xx
Posted by: Anon, Bevendean, Brighton on 8:28pm Sat 9 Feb 08
This is such a tragic incident but like stated already if the person had of stopped then he'd still be alive today!
People seem to think they are invincible and I'm sorry but this is the reality.
My thoughts are with Matt' parents.
This is such a tragic incident but like stated already if the person had of stopped then he'd still be alive today!
People seem to think they are invincible and I'm sorry but this is the reality.
My thoughts are with Matt' parents.
Posted by: whitehawk friend, whitehawk on 8:30pm Sat 9 Feb 08
my heart goes out to the familys of all these kids at the end of the day a young life has been lost so i cant believe so many people are giving such horrible comments if you all think hard everyone f##ks up sometimes but this time a lovely boy has been taken r.i.p mattyxxxxxxxxxx
my heart goes out to the familys of all these kids at the end of the day a young life has been lost so i cant believe so many people are giving such horrible comments if you all think hard everyone f##ks up sometimes but this time a lovely boy has been taken r.i.p mattyxxxxxxxxxx
Posted by: i come from, whitehawk on 8:32pm Sat 9 Feb 08
sorry bout to hear about what happened...does anyone know what chelsae it was as i know quite a few R.I.P
sorry bout to hear about what happened...does anyone know what chelsae it was as i know quite a few R.I.P
Posted by: whitehawk friend, whitehawk on 8:39pm Sat 9 Feb 08
i cant beleive u people moaning about ur walls the'll get fixed what about the family of matty i just hope that u never have to go through what mattys parents are going through today so have some respect
i cant beleive u people moaning about ur walls the'll get fixed what about the family of matty i just hope that u never have to go through what mattys parents are going through today so have some respect
Posted by: david cameron-young, abingdon on 8:40pm Sat 9 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Peter[/bold] wrote:
What about the Girl Chelsea who also died today in that accident.[/quote] the police dont report a second death, although i noticed something about it on the previous article. whatever happened it is so sad for all involved, but why were these kids out at that time of night
Peter wrote:
What about the Girl Chelsea who also died today in that accident.
the police dont report a second death, although i noticed something about it on the previous article. whatever happened it is so sad for all involved, but why were these kids out at that time of night
Posted by: alex, serbia on 8:42pm Sat 9 Feb 08
human relationships seen to be a very distant concept to most of these scum commenting here, seeing that the internet is their lives. I honestly feel sorry for you, talking all big and smart from behind a screen. I never met Matt, but he seemed to have many friends, which is more than you lot have. A young man has died, RIP.
human relationships seen to be a very distant concept to most of these scum commenting here, seeing that the internet is their lives. I honestly feel sorry for you, talking all big and smart from behind a screen. I never met Matt, but he seemed to have many friends, which is more than you lot have. A young man has died, RIP.
Posted by: freddy, Brighton on 8:45pm Sat 9 Feb 08
I wish the lad was still with us, but it's all the people in the cars fault, including the lad that died. Not the police, not society, but them. And it's about time the powers that be stopped being whimpy and sorted them out before anyone else dies.
I wish the lad was still with us, but it's all the people in the cars fault, including the lad that died. Not the police, not society, but them. And it's about time the powers that be stopped being whimpy and sorted them out before anyone else dies.
Posted by: homer, springfield on 8:50pm Sat 9 Feb 08
as my posts keep getting removed i will say it again. it is tragic that someone got killed but why were these kids out at this time of night
as my posts keep getting removed i will say it again. it is tragic that someone got killed but why were these kids out at this time of night
Posted by: Tia, Brightn on 8:51pm Sat 9 Feb 08
I Still Cant Get Over The Fact Taht Pople Are Saying About The Wall That The Car Collided InTo.. Someone Has Lost His Life & All You Can Think About Is That Presious Wall Of Yours ... Your Bloody Pethetic xx
I Still Cant Get Over The Fact Taht Pople Are Saying About The Wall That The Car Collided InTo.. Someone Has Lost His Life & All You Can Think About Is That Presious Wall Of Yours ... Your Bloody Pethetic xx
Posted by: sad but curious on 8:56pm Sat 9 Feb 08
emotions are, naturally, running high
sadly no winners in this situation
sad for matt and his family and for all those children in that car whose lives will never be the same
and the police, just doing their job to keep us safe
and the householder whose wall can be repaired but will be marked by this
... but where does chelsea fit into this sad story?
emotions are, naturally, running high
sadly no winners in this situation
sad for matt and his family and for all those children in that car whose lives will never be the same
and the police, just doing their job to keep us safe
and the householder whose wall can be repaired but will be marked by this
... but where does chelsea fit into this sad story?
Posted by: gaz, whitehawk on 9:04pm Sat 9 Feb 08
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THE SURNAME OF THE GIRL CHELSEA WHO DIED IN THIS ACCIDENT???
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THE SURNAME OF THE GIRL CHELSEA WHO DIED IN THIS ACCIDENT???
Posted by: bob, whitehawk on 9:13pm Sat 9 Feb 08
[italic]italic[/italic] apprently it was chelsea barnes but i been told she is ok x [italic]italic[/italic]
apprently it was chelsea barnes but i been told she is ok x
Posted by: a boy 4 whitehawk, whitehawk on 9:13pm Sat 9 Feb 08
YH PLZZ WTS THE SURENAME OF THE GIRL THATS DIED PLZZ
YH PLZZ WTS THE SURENAME OF THE GIRL THATS DIED PLZZ
Posted by: Paul hubbard, Alicante province.Spain. on 9:13pm Sat 9 Feb 08
When I was growing up in Whitehawk in the mid seventies I quite often used to "borrow" a car to go out in.Usually to impress some girls.Sometimes just for a laugh with my mates.We didn't smash them up and were probably more careful than most drivers as we didn't want to get caught.I never drove drunk although many adults did at that time.We all make mistakes but most of us get away with them and live to fight another day.These two kids didn't so a little sympathy wouldn't hurt.Some of the posters on here have obviously never made a mistake or done anything wrong in their whole lives.All I can say is that means they have never lived.RIP and love and prayers for their families.RIP Tommy Louis too.A mate of mine who died yesterday.
When I was growing up in Whitehawk in the mid seventies I quite often used to "borrow" a car to go out in.Usually to impress some girls.Sometimes just for a laugh with my mates.We didn't smash them up and were probably more careful than most drivers as we didn't want to get caught.I never drove drunk although many adults did at that time.We all make mistakes but most of us get away with them and live to fight another day.These two kids didn't so a little sympathy wouldn't hurt.Some of the posters on here have obviously never made a mistake or done anything wrong in their whole lives.All I can say is that means they have never lived.RIP and love and prayers for their families.RIP Tommy Louis too.A mate of mine who died yesterday.
Posted by: Michael, bevendean on 9:17pm Sat 9 Feb 08
I am one of Matty's teachers. I have just been talking with several of the other teachers that have worked with Matty over the last few years. We all agree that he was someone very special. We loved him. There was always a massive struggle going on in him between doing the wild thing and doing the right thing. sometimes they were the same thing. Sometimes not. What will last forever are the good things he did, the help he gave to others who similarly struggled and the fun that came out of the struggle. His struggle is over. Ours carries on. Love to all who loved him.
I am one of Matty's teachers. I have just been talking with several of the other teachers that have worked with Matty over the last few years. We all agree that he was someone very special. We loved him. There was always a massive struggle going on in him between doing the wild thing and doing the right thing. sometimes they were the same thing. Sometimes not. What will last forever are the good things he did, the help he gave to others who similarly struggled and the fun that came out of the struggle. His struggle is over. Ours carries on. Love to all who loved him.
Posted by: anonomous, whitehawk on 9:20pm Sat 9 Feb 08
no girl died it woz only matty and 1 boy is still critical but the driver woz arrested and the girls were discharged because they were fine just cuts and bruises!!!
no girl died it woz only matty and 1 boy is still critical but the driver woz arrested and the girls were discharged because they were fine just cuts and bruises!!!
Posted by: anonomous, whitehawk on 9:27pm Sat 9 Feb 08
actually the car wasnt stolen and why dont u show sum respect sum people have had relitives in that crash u uncaring gits
actually the car wasnt stolen and why dont u show sum respect sum people have had relitives in that crash u uncaring gits
Posted by: anonomous, whitehawk on 9:28pm Sat 9 Feb 08
actually the car wasnt stolen and why dont u show sum respect sum people have had relitives in that crash u uncaring gits
actually the car wasnt stolen and why dont u show sum respect sum people have had relitives in that crash u uncaring gits
Posted by: Becky, Brighton on 9:29pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Matt was a lovely lad he was a good friend of mine and we did date a while ago i will always remember him. my heart goes out to his family he really loved life and was a lively and caring person and will always be in my thought's
And its a disgrace what people have wrote about the wall u didn't know him and quite frankly you wish u knew somebody and sweet and as caring as Matt Sadler.
R.I.P Matt xxx[/bold]
Matt was a lovely lad he was a good friend of mine and we did date a while ago i will always remember him. my heart goes out to his family he really loved life and was a lively and caring person and will always be in my thought's
And its a disgrace what people have wrote about the wall u didn't know him and quite frankly you wish u knew somebody and sweet and as caring as Matt Sadler.
R.I.P Matt xxx
Posted by: Sharnie and Tessa, Whitehawk on 9:29pm Sat 9 Feb 08
RIP Matty
Were Both Guna Miss You Loads And Loads
x x x x x x x x x x
RIP Matty
Were Both Guna Miss You Loads And Loads
x x x x x x x x x x
Posted by: Ben, Whitehawk on 9:32pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Why do people come on here and judge places matty died for F**K sake
RIP MATTY
Why do people come on here and judge places matty died for F**K sake
RIP MATTY
Posted by: sad but curious on 9:35pm Sat 9 Feb 08
thanks for that information anonymous...
let's hope the 2nd boy recovers soon...
thanks for that information anonymous...
let's hope the 2nd boy recovers soon...
Posted by: A friend, Brighton on 9:36pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Don't judge a book by its cover they say.
I had the priviledge of meeting Matty when he accompanied my granddaughter on a day out to Thorpe Park for her birthday. He was extremely well mannered and polite. He was very shy when he asked if it was alright if he called me "grandma" and was delighted when I said he could.
Matty may have come from Whitehawk, but there are lots of good kids on the estate who have hearts of gold deep down and Matty was one of them. He, like lots of kids, may have had his problem times - haven't we all, but no one deserves to die at 17 years of age.
If you haven't got anything good to say, then say nothing at all. It was a priviledge and a pleasure to have known Matty and my sympathies go to all his family.
Don't judge a book by its cover they say.
I had the priviledge of meeting Matty when he accompanied my granddaughter on a day out to Thorpe Park for her birthday. He was extremely well mannered and polite. He was very shy when he asked if it was alright if he called me "grandma" and was delighted when I said he could.
Matty may have come from Whitehawk, but there are lots of good kids on the estate who have hearts of gold deep down and Matty was one of them. He, like lots of kids, may have had his problem times - haven't we all, but no one deserves to die at 17 years of age.
If you haven't got anything good to say, then say nothing at all. It was a priviledge and a pleasure to have known Matty and my sympathies go to all his family.
Posted by: Eponymous, Sussex on 9:38pm Sat 9 Feb 08
[quote][bold]alex[/bold] wrote:
human relationships seen to be a very distant concept to most of these scum commenting here, seeing that the internet is their lives. I honestly feel sorry for you, talking all big and smart from behind a screen. I never met Matt, but he seemed to have many friends, which is more than you lot have. A young man has died, RIP.[/quote] One of his friends killed him. Some friend!
alex wrote:
human relationships seen to be a very distant concept to most of these scum commenting here, seeing that the internet is their lives. I honestly feel sorry for you, talking all big and smart from behind a screen. I never met Matt, but he seemed to have many friends, which is more than you lot have. A young man has died, RIP.
One of his friends killed him. Some friend!
Posted by: George, brighton on 9:43pm Sat 9 Feb 08
How lovely that people get the chance to write something about Matty. He was a definitely a character, very funny and hard not to love. Whatever crazy things he got up to his heart was big and he loved his Mum and family. My heart goes out to them and to all those who have lost a friend a friend today. Rest in Peace Matty x
How lovely that people get the chance to write something about Matty. He was a definitely a character, very funny and hard not to love. Whatever crazy things he got up to his heart was big and he loved his Mum and family. My heart goes out to them and to all those who have lost a friend a friend today. Rest in Peace Matty x
Posted by: Councillor Warren Morgan, East Brighton on 9:43pm Sat 9 Feb 08
I have met with police and community representatives tonight. I can confirm that the statements made about a female occupant of the vehicle having died as well are not true.
I have posted information from the police on my web pages www. brighton-hove-counci
llors. org.uk and will update there when I know more.
Please have some respect for those involved and for the independent investigation and avoid comments here which are provocative.
I have met with police and community representatives tonight. I can confirm that the statements made about a female occupant of the vehicle having died as well are not true.
I have posted information from the police on my web pages www. brighton-hove-counci
llors. org.uk and will update there when I know more.
Please have some respect for those involved and for the independent investigation and avoid comments here which are provocative.
Posted by: anonomous, whitehawk on 9:49pm Sat 9 Feb 08
jus 2 set the record straight no one in the car woz drunk the driver had been bought the car for his birthday which is tomorow by his moth and matty was not a mutant kid and there is still 1 boy in hospital in critical condition so lets all keeps him in our thoughts and prayers
thanks
jus 2 set the record straight no one in the car woz drunk the driver had been bought the car for his birthday which is tomorow by his moth and matty was not a mutant kid and there is still 1 boy in hospital in critical condition so lets all keeps him in our thoughts and prayers
thanks
Posted by: Not Again, Brighton on 9:53pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Once again, something like this has happened when it could have been avoided. It's shame someone has died (maybe two?) but that is the chance you take in this situation. It has some similarities to the incident in Hastings a while ago when some kids died after getting in a stolen car and speeding along country roads. There were enquiries and blame was being laid at the Police's door but when you take it back to the basic element, they shouldn't have been in the car in the first place and when asked to stop, they decided to carry on. What can the Police do? Do they give chase, or do they let them go on driving 'erraticly' just in case they crash and kill themselves?
It's a sad loss of life, so will these young people now learn a lesson? How many more need to die in needless crashes? Wait until you're old enough - by law - to drive and then do so responsibly. Hopefully his will end the sad loss of young lives and all the heartache their families must be going through.
Once again, something like this has happened when it could have been avoided. It's shame someone has died (maybe two?) but that is the chance you take in this situation. It has some similarities to the incident in Hastings a while ago when some kids died after getting in a stolen car and speeding along country roads. There were enquiries and blame was being laid at the Police's door but when you take it back to the basic element, they shouldn't have been in the car in the first place and when asked to stop, they decided to carry on. What can the Police do? Do they give chase, or do they let them go on driving 'erraticly' just in case they crash and kill themselves?
It's a sad loss of life, so will these young people now learn a lesson? How many more need to die in needless crashes? Wait until you're old enough - by law - to drive and then do so responsibly. Hopefully his will end the sad loss of young lives and all the heartache their families must be going through.
Posted by: W .W, brighton on 10:04pm Sat 9 Feb 08
well an absolute tragedy...... who ever and where ever he got the car keys from.........HOPE THEY DONT SLEEP TONIGHT
well an absolute tragedy...... who ever and where ever he got the car keys from.........HOPE THEY DONT SLEEP TONIGHT
Posted by: Stroller, Hove on 10:10pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Isn't it about time that such people as councillors stopped trotting out the cliche that "our thoughts are with the family"? It's twice in the article.
They are not thinking about the families all the time. No more than I or anybody else is doing so. I do so for perhaps a minute while reading and writng this, but then I do and think something else, other things. That's life.
The people whose thoughts really are on this all the time are the families themselves, and that must be agonising for them, whatever the circumstances of the fatal crash.
Isn't it about time that such people as councillors stopped trotting out the cliche that "our thoughts are with the family"? It's twice in the article.
They are not thinking about the families all the time. No more than I or anybody else is doing so. I do so for perhaps a minute while reading and writng this, but then I do and think something else, other things. That's life.
The people whose thoughts really are on this all the time are the families themselves, and that must be agonising for them, whatever the circumstances of the fatal crash.
Posted by: W.W, brighton on 10:10pm Sat 9 Feb 08
A YOUNG WASTE OF LIFE
Posted by: Lin, Hove on 10:14pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Lets face it they all got in the car, without insurance and did not care about any other person on the road..Why were they out so late?? and why were they allowed to have the car??
Yes it is very sad that someone died but it is not surprising that they crashed..15 year olds are not meant to drive !!What did they expect ??
Lets face it they all got in the car, without insurance and did not care about any other person on the road..Why were they out so late?? and why were they allowed to have the car??
Yes it is very sad that someone died but it is not surprising that they crashed..15 year olds are not meant to drive !!What did they expect ??
Posted by: TRACIE, BRIGHTON on 10:24pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Omg wtf is this world coming to?
A life is so very much more important than a stupid wall...Give the families chance to come to terms with the loss of their son Matty,Have a heart for god sake and allow his family to grieve in peace.
Omg wtf is this world coming to?
A life is so very much more important than a stupid wall...Give the families chance to come to terms with the loss of their son Matty,Have a heart for god sake and allow his family to grieve in peace.
Posted by: anonomous, whitehawk on 10:28pm Sat 9 Feb 08
**** u bozza waste off bricks wot about da kids u insensitive **** how wud u feel if it woz ur child huh
**** u bozza waste off bricks wot about da kids u insensitive **** how wud u feel if it woz ur child huh
Posted by: Ash, Somewhere That actually cares on 10:38pm Sat 9 Feb 08
[quote][bold]david cameron-young[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Peter[/bold] wrote: What about the Girl Chelsea who also died today in that accident.[/quote] the police dont report a second death, although i noticed something about it on the previous article. whatever happened it is so sad for all involved, but why were these kids out at that time of night[/quote] this man is right... chelsea DIDNT die. i wish people could just say stuff they actually KNOW instead of making stuff up to get attention.
R.I.P matty Forever in our hearts
david cameron-young wrote:
Peter wrote: What about the Girl Chelsea who also died today in that accident.
the police dont report a second death, although i noticed something about it on the previous article. whatever happened it is so sad for all involved, but why were these kids out at that time of night
this man is right... chelsea DIDNT die. i wish people could just say stuff they actually KNOW instead of making stuff up to get attention.
R.I.P matty Forever in our hearts
Posted by: Marc, Whitehawk on 10:42pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Matt is a Cool kid .. i feel sorry 4 him if the driver did stop he probs wouldnt be gone :([bold]bold[/bold] [quote]quote[/quote]
Matt is a Cool kid .. i feel sorry 4 him if the driver did stop he probs wouldnt be gone :(
quote
Posted by: anonomous, whitehawk on 10:43pm Sat 9 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Ash[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]david cameron-young[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Peter[/bold] wrote: What about the Girl Chelsea who also died today in that accident.[/quote] the police dont report a second death, although i noticed something about it on the previous article. whatever happened it is so sad for all involved, but why were these kids out at that time of night[/quote] this man is right... chelsea DIDNT die. i wish people could just say stuff they actually KNOW instead of making stuff up to get attention. R.I.P matty Forever in our hearts[/quote] 2 right its about time sum 1 else but me s sticking up the boys in the car no 1 cares about a wall and chelsea didnt die why do these people do it omg
Ash wrote:
david cameron-young wrote: Peter wrote: What about the Girl Chelsea who also died today in that accident.
the police dont report a second death, although i noticed something about it on the previous article. whatever happened it is so sad for all involved, but why were these kids out at that time of night
this man is right... chelsea DIDNT die. i wish people could just say stuff they actually KNOW instead of making stuff up to get attention. R.I.P matty Forever in our hearts
2 right its about time sum 1 else but me s sticking up the boys in the car no 1 cares about a wall and chelsea didnt die why do these people do it omg
Posted by: mel, hove on 10:45pm Sat 9 Feb 08
my heart goes to all the parents, whitehawk or not thats not the issue, i hope those with the bad comments are never allowerd to have kids, theyve no heart or love in them, i dont no any of the victims im just a mum[bold]bold[/bold]
my heart goes to all the parents, whitehawk or not thats not the issue, i hope those with the bad comments are never allowerd to have kids, theyve no heart or love in them, i dont no any of the victims im just a mum
Posted by: chelle, brighton on 10:47pm Sat 9 Feb 08
obviously some of you people on here clearly have no hearts and have nothing better to do apart from slate evry1 else,but it would be a different story if it was 1 of ur family members or even ur own child . have a heart and pay ur respects you would want the same it the table was turnt ur way,
ive been in this sort of situation b4 but my brother did survive which the ambulance/police/ didnt think he was going to..(think b4 you write stupid comments) ....
R.I.P MATTY never knew you but from some comments u seemed a lovely helpful kid .. sleep well .
obviously some of you people on here clearly have no hearts and have nothing better to do apart from slate evry1 else,but it would be a different story if it was 1 of ur family members or even ur own child . have a heart and pay ur respects you would want the same it the table was turnt ur way,
ive been in this sort of situation b4 but my brother did survive which the ambulance/police/ didnt think he was going to..(think b4 you write stupid comments) ....
R.I.P MATTY never knew you but from some comments u seemed a lovely helpful kid .. sleep well .
Posted by: mediator, brighton on 10:50pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Can the people who are not to do with this ,Butt out , this site is for friends and family who have lost someone , to talk and console -if you are acting like a fool and making comments that hurt -butt out -you will know how it feels one day ! This site is for some constructive help , comments and respect ! A love one has been lost so back off if you are gonna talk a load of crap go away - anyone who cares , under what ever situation has to give the family of Matt sometime to cope with their loss -
PLEASE SHOW SOME THOUGHT -IT IS A VERY HARD TIME FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can the people who are not to do with this ,Butt out , this site is for friends and family who have lost someone , to talk and console -if you are acting like a fool and making comments that hurt -butt out -you will know how it feels one day ! This site is for some constructive help , comments and respect ! A love one has been lost so back off if you are gonna talk a load of crap go away - anyone who cares , under what ever situation has to give the family of Matt sometime to cope with their loss -
PLEASE SHOW SOME THOUGHT -IT IS A VERY HARD TIME FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: kwebber, whitehawk on 10:52pm Sat 9 Feb 08
why dose every1 say chelsea knocked ova tha wall, she dident do it any way who cares about tha wall
i dont no any of the victems but im not a mum neither, respect to tha victems
why dose every1 say chelsea knocked ova tha wall, she dident do it any way who cares about tha wall
i dont no any of the victems but im not a mum neither, respect to tha victems
Posted by: East Brighton Blog, East Brighton on 10:54pm Sat 9 Feb 08
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For all the lastest facts on this tragic loss of life visit: http://eastbrighton.
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Posted by: haz, hove on 11:04pm Sat 9 Feb 08
hey kwebber, did you go to schhol hun, only spelling seems [bold]bold[/bold] bad
hey kwebber, did you go to schhol hun, only spelling seems bad
Posted by: ADI Brighton on 11:29pm Sat 9 Feb 08
I agree with the comments about the council spending money to help the whitehawk community get through this! I mean would any other part of the city get such support? ... Would they f**k! Help those that help themselves. Also maybe it's time that we routinely arm our police officers then maybe 15 year old kids behind the wheel of a potentially very dangerous weapon will think twice about trying to evade the police! At present I feel the police do not command enough respect.
I agree with the comments about the council spending money to help the whitehawk community get through this! I mean would any other part of the city get such support? ... Would they f**k! Help those that help themselves. Also maybe it's time that we routinely arm our police officers then maybe 15 year old kids behind the wheel of a potentially very dangerous weapon will think twice about trying to evade the police! At present I feel the police do not command enough respect.
Posted by: Acheron, Hove on 11:36pm Sat 9 Feb 08
mediator,
I hope this doesn't come across as harsh, but in all honesty I really hope that you aren't using the site/forum/whatever you want to call it, as a place for talking and consoling each other.
That sort of thing needs to be done one to one, cyberspace is not the place for that and sorry to say if you think that it is, then you need to have a re-think.
While I'm sure it's not a place for callous comments and stuff like that, please, if you want to grieve/console etc, here is not the place either. It's a human tragedy (irrespective of the wrongs that have clearly occurred) and as such needs to be dealt with on a human level. Anything less reduces us as human beings.
mediator,
I hope this doesn't come across as harsh, but in all honesty I really hope that you aren't using the site/forum/whatever you want to call it, as a place for talking and consoling each other.
That sort of thing needs to be done one to one, cyberspace is not the place for that and sorry to say if you think that it is, then you need to have a re-think.
While I'm sure it's not a place for callous comments and stuff like that, please, if you want to grieve/console etc, here is not the place either. It's a human tragedy (irrespective of the wrongs that have clearly occurred) and as such needs to be dealt with on a human level. Anything less reduces us as human beings.
Posted by: anonomous, whitehawk on 11:38pm Sat 9 Feb 08
[quote][bold]ADI Brighton[/bold] wrote:
I agree with the comments about the council spending money to help the whitehawk community get through this! I mean would any other part of the city get such support? ... Would they f**k! Help those that help themselves. Also maybe it's time that we routinely arm our police officers then maybe 15 year old kids behind the wheel of a potentially very dangerous weapon will think twice about trying to evade the police! At present I feel the police do not command enough respect. [/quote] so u think if the car doesnt stop then the police should just shoot thm do u adi huh ur a sick **** then arent u i hope u neva have any kids of ur own coz if u do then i feel so sorry for them!!!!!!!!!
ADI Brighton wrote:
I agree with the comments about the council spending money to help the whitehawk community get through this! I mean would any other part of the city get such support? ... Would they f**k! Help those that help themselves. Also maybe it's time that we routinely arm our police officers then maybe 15 year old kids behind the wheel of a potentially very dangerous weapon will think twice about trying to evade the police! At present I feel the police do not command enough respect.
so u think if the car doesnt stop then the police should just shoot thm do u adi huh ur a sick **** then arent u i hope u neva have any kids of ur own coz if u do then i feel so sorry for them!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: lucy, btn on 11:48pm Sat 9 Feb 08
who was driving the car then ?
who was driving the car then ?
Posted by: paul, brighton on 11:53pm Sat 9 Feb 08
such a loss of life.unfortunately kids do silly things with dyer consequences.this is going to be the worse lesson the fortunate survivers will ever learn.lets hope the family of the deceased and survivers have the support they will no doubt need.
such a loss of life.unfortunately kids do silly things with dyer consequences.this is going to be the worse lesson the fortunate survivers will ever learn.lets hope the family of the deceased and survivers have the support they will no doubt need.
Posted by: dan on 11:58pm Sat 9 Feb 08
dont u **** dare start slaggin off whitehawk m8 u dont no wot it like round ere we can be nice but when we get pople like you talkin about us like we r nasty bastards thats when we do get nasty show ur **** respect m8 that woz my m8 that has died in the crash u dont no nuffink **** to whitehawk and find out for urself we anit nasty till we get mugs like u talkin about us like this DO ONE U ****
dont u **** dare start slaggin off whitehawk m8 u dont no wot it like round ere we can be nice but when we get pople like you talkin about us like we r nasty bastards thats when we do get nasty show ur **** respect m8 that woz my m8 that has died in the crash u dont no nuffink **** to whitehawk and find out for urself we anit nasty till we get mugs like u talkin about us like this DO ONE U ****
Posted by: lucy, btn on 12:08am Sun 10 Feb 08
anyone gonna enlighten us as to who was driving the car please
anyone gonna enlighten us as to who was driving the car please
Posted by: Beth McCue, WHITEHAWK on 12:13am Sun 10 Feb 08
what is the world coming to how dare u say stuff like that about the family of a dead boy u didnt even know so he made one silly mistake and was just having a laugh with his friends it was the wrong way to do it but thats life and the mattys life4s gone he was a nice boy and the world willl miss him and as for the boy driving the car i know him to and hes a sweetheart he now has to live with the fact that he killed his best friend!!!!!! so y dont u stick ur bad comments where the sun dont shine and get a life this dont concern u ur not in pain ur all arogant idiots who where fortunat enough to live some where theres a lil more money but other things are more important AND **** UR **** WALLLLLLL
what is the world coming to how dare u say stuff like that about the family of a dead boy u didnt even know so he made one silly mistake and was just having a laugh with his friends it was the wrong way to do it but thats life and the mattys life4s gone he was a nice boy and the world willl miss him and as for the boy driving the car i know him to and hes a sweetheart he now has to live with the fact that he killed his best friend!!!!!! so y dont u stick ur bad comments where the sun dont shine and get a life this dont concern u ur not in pain ur all arogant idiots who where fortunat enough to live some where theres a lil more money but other things are more important AND **** UR **** WALLLLLLL
Posted by: angie, whitehawk on 12:15am Sun 10 Feb 08
micheal or simon ,, to the family and friends my heart goes out to them , matt r.i.p x
micheal or simon ,, to the family and friends my heart goes out to them , matt r.i.p x
Posted by: SAH, Brighton on 12:37am Sun 10 Feb 08
To loose a 17yr old son is heartbreaking my condolances to his family.
To loose a 17yr old son is heartbreaking my condolances to his family.
Posted by: Ben Knight, Whitehawk on 12:41am Sun 10 Feb 08
i cant believe these comments i rele cant someone has died and all you care about is ur selfs your not the ones who have to live after your son or cuzin or uncle or whatevaer has died you make me sick
i cant believe these comments i rele cant someone has died and all you care about is ur selfs your not the ones who have to live after your son or cuzin or uncle or whatevaer has died you make me sick
Posted by: Beth McCue, WHITEHAWK on 12:45am Sun 10 Feb 08
UR MAY THINK WE'RE SCUM OR WHAT EVER BUT AT LEAST WE GOT RESPECT AND LOYALTY TO THOSE WE LOVE AND THOSE WE'VE LOST
R.I.P MATTY X ¢¾ X ¢¾ X ¢¾ X ¢¾ X
UR MAY THINK WE'RE SCUM OR WHAT EVER BUT AT LEAST WE GOT RESPECT AND LOYALTY TO THOSE WE LOVE AND THOSE WE'VE LOST
R.I.P MATTY X ¢¾ X ¢¾ X ¢¾ X ¢¾ X
Posted by: Ben Knight, Whitehawk on 12:59am Sun 10 Feb 08
Well Said Beth
you all make me sick (ppl who have left horrible comments)
R,I,P MATTY
Well Said Beth
you all make me sick (ppl who have left horrible comments)
R,I,P MATTY
Posted by: cn, whitehawk on 1:16am Sun 10 Feb 08
Firstly can I just give my heart felt condolences to this childs family and friends. Secondly would like once again thank people for slateing Whitehawk and straight away making the assumption that this child was a hooligan and not looked after by his parents. Do any of the people which have wrote negative, spiteful, evil, messages know this this child his family or even Whitehawk. Yes the area may have it's problems but which area has not. You don't find people on this estate walking around making disgusting comments about a child dying and others being crtically injured. These kids may have made a mistake but I would like to see one person that has not. We all have, especially at that age, and tragically all people involved will pay for this greatly. I would also like to say that people are quick enough to pick up on the councillors comments about sympathy for the family, and the support for the local community but failed to pick up on the part where the councillor says about the strong community spirit which exists to this day unike in many other areas of Brighton. I am proud to live on the estate. God bless all involved
Firstly can I just give my heart felt condolences to this childs family and friends. Secondly would like once again thank people for slateing Whitehawk and straight away making the assumption that this child was a hooligan and not looked after by his parents. Do any of the people which have wrote negative, spiteful, evil, messages know this this child his family or even Whitehawk. Yes the area may have it's problems but which area has not. You don't find people on this estate walking around making disgusting comments about a child dying and others being crtically injured. These kids may have made a mistake but I would like to see one person that has not. We all have, especially at that age, and tragically all people involved will pay for this greatly. I would also like to say that people are quick enough to pick up on the councillors comments about sympathy for the family, and the support for the local community but failed to pick up on the part where the councillor says about the strong community spirit which exists to this day unike in many other areas of Brighton. I am proud to live on the estate. God bless all involved
Posted by: Distant Frient, Brighton on 1:29am Sun 10 Feb 08
[quote][bold]lucy[/bold] wrote:
anyone gonna enlighten us as to who was driving the car please[/quote] Lucy - Does it really matter. They will have enough to deal with without your nasty bitter mind!!!!
lucy wrote:
anyone gonna enlighten us as to who was driving the car please
Lucy - Does it really matter. They will have enough to deal with without your nasty bitter mind!!!!
Posted by: Distant Friend, Brighton on 1:32am Sun 10 Feb 08
[quote][bold]cn[/bold] wrote:
Firstly can I just give my heart felt condolences to this childs family and friends. Secondly would like once again thank people for slateing Whitehawk and straight away making the assumption that this child was a hooligan and not looked after by his parents. Do any of the people which have wrote negative, spiteful, evil, messages know this this child his family or even Whitehawk. Yes the area may have it's problems but which area has not. You don't find people on this estate walking around making disgusting comments about a child dying and others being crtically injured. These kids may have made a mistake but I would like to see one person that has not. We all have, especially at that age, and tragically all people involved will pay for this greatly. I would also like to say that people are quick enough to pick up on the councillors comments about sympathy for the family, and the support for the local community but failed to pick up on the part where the councillor says about the strong community spirit which exists to this day unike in many other areas of Brighton. I am proud to live on the estate. God bless all involved [/quote] Here here. Why can't everyone leave their negative comments behind and realise there's a family who have lost a lovely son probably reading this
cn wrote:
Firstly can I just give my heart felt condolences to this childs family and friends. Secondly would like once again thank people for slateing Whitehawk and straight away making the assumption that this child was a hooligan and not looked after by his parents. Do any of the people which have wrote negative, spiteful, evil, messages know this this child his family or even Whitehawk. Yes the area may have it's problems but which area has not. You don't find people on this estate walking around making disgusting comments about a child dying and others being crtically injured. These kids may have made a mistake but I would like to see one person that has not. We all have, especially at that age, and tragically all people involved will pay for this greatly. I would also like to say that people are quick enough to pick up on the councillors comments about sympathy for the family, and the support for the local community but failed to pick up on the part where the councillor says about the strong community spirit which exists to this day unike in many other areas of Brighton. I am proud to live on the estate. God bless all involved
Here here. Why can't everyone leave their negative comments behind and realise there's a family who have lost a lovely son probably reading this
Posted by: Pastor Tim, DC on 2:45am Sun 10 Feb 08
It doesn't matter where the deceased came from.
A life has been tragically lost which is always possible when somebody breaks the law - let's be realistic about this
It doesn't matter where the deceased came from.
A life has been tragically lost which is always possible when somebody breaks the law - let's be realistic about this
Posted by: Hove Resident, Hove on 8:29am Sun 10 Feb 08
Now 8.30am on a Sunday and no comments from Whitehawk for some 5/6 hours. What are you all doing? Sleeping after a late night reflecting on "if only"???
Now 8.30am on a Sunday and no comments from Whitehawk for some 5/6 hours. What are you all doing? Sleeping after a late night reflecting on "if only"???
Posted by: Allen, shoreham on 8:44am Sun 10 Feb 08
to hove resident
leave Whitehawk people alone their grief is big enough!!
to hove resident
leave Whitehawk people alone their grief is big enough!!
Posted by: taz_devil, Whitehawk on 8:50am Sun 10 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Jonty St John[/bold] wrote:
White hawk such a awful place, perhaps we could contain it with a rather large wall.[/quote] Oh right so whitehawk is so bad so the killing at palmeria sq by albanians and hove street shooting is is whitehawk is it you loser...... RIP matty god will look after you and your family
Jonty St John wrote:
White hawk such a awful place, perhaps we could contain it with a rather large wall.
Oh right so whitehawk is so bad so the killing at palmeria sq by albanians and hove street shooting is is whitehawk is it you loser...... RIP matty god will look after you and your family
Posted by: david cameron-young, abingdon on 9:03am Sun 10 Feb 08
it doesnt matter if you come from whitehawk or the posh side of hove, your grief is the same. i used to live in brighton, but to me people are people, whatever their colour,race or gender. leave these families to grieve alone now, and do not diss where they come from. it is a tragic thing that happened and where you live has no bearing on it.
it doesnt matter if you come from whitehawk or the posh side of hove, your grief is the same. i used to live in brighton, but to me people are people, whatever their colour,race or gender. leave these families to grieve alone now, and do not diss where they come from. it is a tragic thing that happened and where you live has no bearing on it.
Posted by: Mr Hove, Hove on 9:18am Sun 10 Feb 08
In central Hove, there were 67 burglaries but just 12 detections.
The Argus 26th Sep 2006
In central Hove, there were 67 burglaries but just 12 detections.
The Argus 26th Sep 2006
Posted by: Mr Hove, Hove on 9:23am Sun 10 Feb 08
The number of reported hate crimes in Hove has rocketed in the last six months.
Homophobic attacks reported to the police have risen by 42 per cent, with 167 incidents between April and November. Racist attacks were also up by seven per cent to 408 over the same period.
Gay rights campaigners claim the official statistics are proof homophobic violence is on the increase in the city while police say the figures show victims feel more comfortable reporting hate crime.
The number of reported hate crimes in Hove has rocketed in the last six months.
Homophobic attacks reported to the police have risen by 42 per cent, with 167 incidents between April and November. Racist attacks were also up by seven per cent to 408 over the same period.
Gay rights campaigners claim the official statistics are proof homophobic violence is on the increase in the city while police say the figures show victims feel more comfortable reporting hate crime.
Posted by: Mr Hove, Hove on 9:34am Sun 10 Feb 08
I am a delivery driver for a Hove chemist. Last Saturday, I found myself chasing a female shoplifter. Unfortunately, as I am pushing 60, I am long past the age when I should be chasing young women, and I lost her in First Avenue.
The police could not have got to me any quicker if they had tried, and they did everything that could be expected of them.
The question is, what would have happened if we had caught the thief?
FROM HOVE!
I am a delivery driver for a Hove chemist. Last Saturday, I found myself chasing a female shoplifter. Unfortunately, as I am pushing 60, I am long past the age when I should be chasing young women, and I lost her in First Avenue.
The police could not have got to me any quicker if they had tried, and they did everything that could be expected of them.
The question is, what would have happened if we had caught the thief?
FROM HOVE!
Posted by: Mr Hove, Hove on 9:38am Sun 10 Feb 08
A car crashed through a wall into the side of a house in Holland Road, Hove at around 3.20pm today.
The accident happened just opposite The Brunswick pub and is causing traffic chaos on the area.
Police said there were a number of walking wounded.
26th Sept 2007
A car crashed through a wall into the side of a house in Holland Road, Hove at around 3.20pm today.
The accident happened just opposite The Brunswick pub and is causing traffic chaos on the area.
Police said there were a number of walking wounded.
26th Sept 2007
Posted by: Mr Hove, Hove on 9:45am Sun 10 Feb 08
A man was taken to hospital with serious injuries after a city centre road accident.
At about 4.50pm the man, believed to be elderly, was hit by a car in Church Road, Hove.
He was taken to the Royal Sussex County Hospital in Brighton.
HOVE AGAIN!
A man was taken to hospital with serious injuries after a city centre road accident.
At about 4.50pm the man, believed to be elderly, was hit by a car in Church Road, Hove.
He was taken to the Royal Sussex County Hospital in Brighton.
HOVE AGAIN!
Posted by: Mr Hove, Hove on 9:49am Sun 10 Feb 08
Crime has fallen in parts of a city but work still needs to be done to curb youth crime and disorder, according to police.
In the east Brighton division of Sussex crime fell by 573 incidents between April and November in 2007 compared with the same period the previous year.
There were more than 220 fewer incidents of criminal damage, about 100 fewer violent crimes and more than 80 fewer vehicle crimes.
Crime has fallen in parts of a city but work still needs to be done to curb youth crime and disorder, according to police.
In the east Brighton division of Sussex crime fell by 573 incidents between April and November in 2007 compared with the same period the previous year.
There were more than 220 fewer incidents of criminal damage, about 100 fewer violent crimes and more than 80 fewer vehicle crimes.
Posted by: Lauren, Brighotn. on 9:57am Sun 10 Feb 08
[italic]Ben & Beth Are Right. Matt Was A Lovley Boy, And I Might Not Have Known Him for That Long. but what I Knew Everyone That Knew him Will Miss Him. Just Leave him & Hes Family Alone, It Dosent Matter Where Hes Come from, Its Still Sad. [bold]Your Be Missed Matty [/italic]
Ben & Beth Are Right. Matt Was A Lovley Boy, And I Might Not Have Known Him for That Long. but what I Knew Everyone That Knew him Will Miss Him. Just Leave him & Hes Family Alone, It Dosent Matter Where Hes Come from, Its Still Sad. Your Be Missed Matty Posted by: steve, brighton on 10:05am Sun 10 Feb 08
A very tragic story with everyone blaming everyone.The kids are the only one`s to blame here.I grew up on a rough council estate, but didn`t turn to any sort of crime.My two younger brothers did though.They had the same parents as me, so why did they go wrong ?You can`t blame the parents or the surroundings, kids just get mixed up with the wrong crowd sometimes.If , however, all the kids in all the families involved, are all trouble makers, then blame the parents.As for all the slagging off of Whitehawk, grow up, you`re like playground bullies.There are a lot of very good people live in Whitehawk, but they are all being tarred with the same brush because of a minority who get the headlines.I was once subject to a load of homophobic abuse by a couple on St Jamess St, and was helped out by a group of people from Whitehawk who walked me to my home, and made sure I was safely inside before going on their way.My sympathy to all the people involved, including the emergency services, who had to deal with this tragedy.
A very tragic story with everyone blaming everyone.The kids are the only one`s to blame here.I grew up on a rough council estate, but didn`t turn to any sort of crime.My two younger brothers did though.They had the same parents as me, so why did they go wrong ?You can`t blame the parents or the surroundings, kids just get mixed up with the wrong crowd sometimes.If , however, all the kids in all the families involved, are all trouble makers, then blame the parents.As for all the slagging off of Whitehawk, grow up, you`re like playground bullies.There are a lot of very good people live in Whitehawk, but they are all being tarred with the same brush because of a minority who get the headlines.I was once subject to a load of homophobic abuse by a couple on St Jamess St, and was helped out by a group of people from Whitehawk who walked me to my home, and made sure I was safely inside before going on their way.My sympathy to all the people involved, including the emergency services, who had to deal with this tragedy.
Posted by: A reader, Peacehaven on 10:15am Sun 10 Feb 08
This is indeed very tragic and my heart goes out to Matty's family. It is irelavant where he comes from, he made the mistake of getting into a stolen car with an underage driver knowing the law had been broken however this does not mean he deserved to die. The 15 year old driver will have to live with the fact he killed his friend for the rest of his life. A very sad case indeed.
This is indeed very tragic and my heart goes out to Matty's family. It is irelavant where he comes from, he made the mistake of getting into a stolen car with an underage driver knowing the law had been broken however this does not mean he deserved to die. The 15 year old driver will have to live with the fact he killed his friend for the rest of his life. A very sad case indeed.
Posted by: parent - shoreham by sea, shoreham on 10:22am Sun 10 Feb 08
So very sorry to hear of the tragic news and being a parent myself, my heart goes out to all the families involved. life is so cruel to take such young lives from us and it is the families left behind to try to carry on and it must be the hardest thing for any parent,brother of sister to have to try and do. Once again I send my deepest condolences to all affected.
So very sorry to hear of the tragic news and being a parent myself, my heart goes out to all the families involved. life is so cruel to take such young lives from us and it is the families left behind to try to carry on and it must be the hardest thing for any parent,brother of sister to have to try and do. Once again I send my deepest condolences to all affected.
Posted by: Joanna Edge, Brighton on 10:49am Sun 10 Feb 08
I am a teacher of Matty's. He was a lovely lad with a good heart. He had a fantastic sense of humour and will ne greatly missed by all who knew him. I am shocked and appalled by some of these disrepectful comments. Leave everyone who knew him to grieve. Yes he made a mistake - most people do at some point in their lives and live to tell the tale. This is a tragic loss of a lovely lad, just turned seventeen. My thoughts are with his famlily and close friends. Rest in peace Matty. You will e forever in our hearts.
I am a teacher of Matty's. He was a lovely lad with a good heart. He had a fantastic sense of humour and will ne greatly missed by all who knew him. I am shocked and appalled by some of these disrepectful comments. Leave everyone who knew him to grieve. Yes he made a mistake - most people do at some point in their lives and live to tell the tale. This is a tragic loss of a lovely lad, just turned seventeen. My thoughts are with his famlily and close friends. Rest in peace Matty. You will e forever in our hearts.
Posted by: HG-MO on 10:57am Sun 10 Feb 08
Myself and my friend were driving up wilson ave on the morning of this incedent. The car involved sped past us at well over 50mph and came close to losing control and crashing into us. we then saw the police car which was quite a distance behind, obviously so they would not force the driver to have an accident. I just wanted to leave this comment incase anybody is trying to blame the police.
Myself and my friend were driving up wilson ave on the morning of this incedent. The car involved sped past us at well over 50mph and came close to losing control and crashing into us. we then saw the police car which was quite a distance behind, obviously so they would not force the driver to have an accident. I just wanted to leave this comment incase anybody is trying to blame the police.
Posted by: a muvver, cardiff on 11:13am Sun 10 Feb 08
I cannot believe the nastiness of some of the comments on this board. A young life have been tragically ended and some people seem fit to 'joke' about it. For those of you having a pop at parents and the Whitehawk estate, from my own experience I can tell you, it isn't easy. If kids don't want to come home on time, they don't. Nothing you can say or do will make them. And because they came from Whitehawk, it makes no difference. My kids grown up in Patcham and believe me, the same things happend there. My heart goes out to all the famlies involved as it could have so easily been one of mine a few years ago. Let's hope out of this sad incident, the police will learn a lesson and not think they can behave like american cops and chase anything that moves. Surely the better thing to do is to follow at a safe distance and let them go? If they were near to home, chances are they would have bailed sooner than later? They must have had some idea how old the occupants were.
I cannot believe the nastiness of some of the comments on this board. A young life have been tragically ended and some people seem fit to 'joke' about it. For those of you having a pop at parents and the Whitehawk estate, from my own experience I can tell you, it isn't easy. If kids don't want to come home on time, they don't. Nothing you can
