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12:49am Thursday 15th May 2008
Micky Adams has two good reasons to hope Leeds United get to Wembley tonight.
The Albion manager would like to see his old club climb back towards what many consider their rightful place in the top flight.
But he would also be happy to see them eliminated from the push for League One honours next season, when they would be free of the points deduction which hindered them this time.
Leeds go to Carlisle for the second leg of their play-off semi-final looking to pull back a 2-1 deficit.
Adams said: "For Leeds United to be in this division is criminal. I played there in better times and I'll be looking for their results.
"With the spending power they have, in an ideal world they would go up to the next division."
never wrong dave, Brighton says...
1:14am Thu 15 May 08
ACTONIT, Australia says...
3:57am Thu 15 May 08
InterestedParty, Nearby says...
6:01am Thu 15 May 08
Benny Dorm, Spain says...
7:29am Thu 15 May 08
InterestedParty wrote:You might want to edit that last sentence because you've clearly posted before engaging your brain.
Oh dear, Adams talking tripe already. Leeds broke the rules and have been punished for it. What's criminal is that he is manager of a club he clearly feels are inferior. If he lives up to expectations no doubt he'll want to be their next manager. If he fails as he has done everywhere he's been since 'bettering' himself we'll be the losers.
Don't tell 'em Pike!, Lancing says...
8:05am Thu 15 May 08
Drew, Burgess Hill says...
8:46am Thu 15 May 08
ACTONIT wrote:Totally crap. The club are owned by shareholders and they appoint the board so they are all culpable. Yes, the fans suffer but I don't recall any of you complaining when you were in the semi-final of the champions league. I think the phrase is 'Rough with the smooth'!
I agree with Micky..it is CRIMINAl that Leeds Utd are in this division...they should have been expelled altogether ! Just remember its not the Club, but the Chairman who was at fault so the Club itself should not have to pay any penalty, only the guys running the club. God forbid if the same thing happens to your club Georgie Worst. Shoe will be on the other foot then! MOT
Neo, The Matrix says...
9:18am Thu 15 May 08
kk, Hove says...
9:30am Thu 15 May 08
Phil, in the middle says...
9:54am Thu 15 May 08
KK, Hove says...
10:00am Thu 15 May 08
Phil, i says...
10:05am Thu 15 May 08
KK wrote:Ha, ha feeling bitter because Leeds are not a big club anymore?
Same old Seagulls always moaning ... why don't you moan at your fairweather supporters who never put their money where their mouths are and actually turn up and support the side ...
Jules, brighton says...
10:09am Thu 15 May 08
Jules, brighton says...
10:10am Thu 15 May 08
kk, hove says...
10:20am Thu 15 May 08
Phil wrote:Surely you are getting me confused with all the Brightonians who could manage to find their way to the play off final but are still trying to find withdean. I've never said we didn't deserve to be in League 1. We were awful last season and deserved to go down. Yes Bates is a crook and he does bend the rules and unfortunately it has backfired this season as purely on playing terms we were the 2nd team in the league. But c'est la vie ... if we don't go up at least we can look forward to outplaying you at Withdean next season like we did in Oct :-)
KK wrote: Same old Seagulls always moaning ... why don\'t you moan at your fairweather supporters who never put their money where their mouths are and actually turn up and support the side ...Ha, ha feeling bitter because Leeds are not a big club anymore? You had better go and support Chelsea now you glory hunter! Leeds will never get back to being a big club.
kk, hove says...
10:21am Thu 15 May 08
Phil wrote:Surely you are getting me confused with all the Brightonians who could manage to find their way to the play off final but are still trying to find withdean. I've never said we didn't deserve to be in League 1. We were awful last season and deserved to go down. Yes Bates is a crook and he does bend the rules and unfortunately it has backfired this season as purely on playing terms we were the 2nd team in the league. But c'est la vie ... if we don't go up at least we can look forward to outplaying you at Withdean next season like we did in Oct :-)
KK wrote: Same old Seagulls always moaning ... why don\'t you moan at your fairweather supporters who never put their money where their mouths are and actually turn up and support the side ...Ha, ha feeling bitter because Leeds are not a big club anymore? You had better go and support Chelsea now you glory hunter! Leeds will never get back to being a big club.
J, Hove says...
11:07am Thu 15 May 08
kk, hove says...
11:13am Thu 15 May 08
kk, hove says...
11:13am Thu 15 May 08
kk, hove says...
11:15am Thu 15 May 08
The Wombat, Zog says...
11:19am Thu 15 May 08
kk, hove says...
11:51am Thu 15 May 08
The Wombat wrote:Wombat you are totally incorrect. Yes Leeds did probably go into admin to receive the 10pts when they were virtually down last season. The 15pts deduction was implemented for this season as Leeds not being able to get out of admin with a CVA. Most Leeds fans are happy with the outcome as we know Bates is a shady character is trying to pull a fast one but it's no different to most chairman. Unfortunately we had a bad chairman in Risdale who lived life on credit and now we have a crook who everyone hates. But a football club belongs to its' fans so that's why we still are supporting Leeds. If you listen to a lot of media crap, they are the people saying a big club like Leeds should be in the Premiership, most Leeds fans just want to concentrate on the future, getting our club back on a steady course in whatever division that may be. People like Sky do want Leeds to be back in the premiership as there is a bigger global market for say Leeds compared with Wigan. But Sky is not interested in football for the average fan so this is where a lot of the rubbish comes from. For most Leeds fans, the situation is that we have accepted what's happened and by no means think we are too good for League 1. Hopefully we have 2 more games to prove we are .... but that is no means definite. For my penny's worth, this is a very strange comment from Adams. Concentrate on Seagulls.....
It is always a source of amazement when there is talk of clubs \'deserving\' to be in a higher division etc etc.. Clubs are virtually always where they deserve to be. Financial profligacy (as in Leeds case), a poor team, poor management (of club and team) contribute. By the same token, whichever of Bristol City or Hull City makes the Premiership, they, too, deserve to be there. It should not be forgotten that Leeds tried to pull a fast one by going insolvent during the last match of the 2006-2007 season as relegation looked certain. Their hope was that the fifteen point deduction would be implemented as they were relegated, therefore making no difference to the situation. In the event, the FA, for once, saw sense, and imposed the penalty for the season now reaching its conclusion.
chris Bloom, Brighouse says...
11:52am Thu 15 May 08
Georgie Worst wrote:Reply to Georgie Worst.I think probably you would be best to stick to barbecuing and egg chasing as you will be more familiar with that than football.Leeds will probably be missed by the other teams within the league if we go up as well because of the extra revenue we have created for them with the rise in Gate receipts they have all enjoyed this season with Leeds being there.
I agree with Micky..it is CRIMINAl that Leeds Utd are in this division...they should have been expelled altogether ! With their spending power its a pity they dont pay their debts off first !
roland-roy, Denmark says...
12:52pm Thu 15 May 08
chris Bloom wrote:Pherhaps Mr Bloom should stick to Flipping Burgers in MacDonalds than posting his dillusional comments on this site. Iam a big football fan and have been for 60 years man and boy. I know a man who is beaten and will not admit that promotion is a no go for them lads.
Georgie Worst wrote: I agree with Micky..it is CRIMINAl that Leeds Utd are in this division...they should have been expelled altogether ! With their spending power its a pity they dont pay their debts off first !Reply to Georgie Worst.I think probably you would be best to stick to barbecuing and egg chasing as you will be more familiar with that than football.Leeds will probably be missed by the other teams within the league if we go up as well because of the extra revenue we have created for them with the rise in Gate receipts they have all enjoyed this season with Leeds being there.
Phil, in the middle says...
1:07pm Thu 15 May 08
chris Bloom wrote:Bigger gates yes, but at what price?
Georgie Worst wrote:Reply to Georgie Worst.I think probably you would be best to stick to barbecuing and egg chasing as you will be more familiar with that than football.Leeds will probably be missed by the other teams within the league if we go up as well because of the extra revenue we have created for them with the rise in Gate receipts they have all enjoyed this season with Leeds being there.
I agree with Micky..it is CRIMINAl that Leeds Utd are in this division...they should have been expelled altogether ! With their spending power its a pity they dont pay their debts off first !
Georgie Worst, Australia says...
1:08pm Thu 15 May 08
Mr Bloom, Brighouse says...
1:37pm Thu 15 May 08
roland roy, says...
1:45pm Thu 15 May 08
Mr Bloom wrote:Maybe Mr Bloom should stick to Goat hearding or whatever it he does through the day.Sound like he has nothing better to do than sit at his pc and post daft comments. maybe he is sat in his chair with his cheap shirt and fake trainers.Leave the football talk to the main players
Reply to Georgie and your new pal Phil in Middle who dare not mention were he is from! Oh and that Bear hurder from Denmark,Well Georgie as your knowledge of sport is so great you will know that egg chasing is actually Rugby, and hopefully I will laughing on the other side of my Big Mac tonight when we march on into the Championship were we belong....Oh Ps,,,,,Dont forget to put the food out for the bears Denmark Dave or whatever your name is!!!!Oh pps,Phil in Middle I am sure you would never of let it enter your mind in appealing if it was your own team ,well I hope you feel the same about Luton who it is about to happen to as well!
Georgie Worst, Australia says...
2:03pm Thu 15 May 08
Mr Bloom, Brighouse says...
2:09pm Thu 15 May 08
Georgie Worst, Australia says...
2:11pm Thu 15 May 08
kk, hove says...
2:32pm Thu 15 May 08
Georgie Worst wrote:Worst .. your name says it all .. you should learn to read. How I wait for the day Albion go into admin and then see where your holier than thou attitude gets you. Also I never said we are second best to Carlisle. I said on footballing terms we were second in the League. Good to see you are wasting your time moaning at Leeds fans rather than finding out why it's all gone quiet over Falmer ...it will never get built..... I'd love to see someone tell me where you are getting the money from ! IKEA ?
Mr Bloom - It sounds like you might have originated from the same egg as kk ! No idea what egg chasing means but I probably know more about international football and futsal than you know about yourself !kk has a fixation about the albion going up and the lack of support...never mentions how Leeds could do the right thing and pay their creditors the money they stole from them ? C\'mon kk how about something constructive ? I see you\'re already taking it for granted that Leeds are 2nd best to Carlisle !
Georgie Worst, Australia says...
2:40pm Thu 15 May 08
kk, hove says...
2:44pm Thu 15 May 08
Georgie Worst, Australia says...
2:52pm Thu 15 May 08
matthew, wales says...
3:07pm Thu 15 May 08
kk, Hove says...
3:09pm Thu 15 May 08
Georgie Worst, Australia says...
3:17pm Thu 15 May 08
Brett, Brighton says...
3:24pm Thu 15 May 08
J, Hove says...
3:36pm Thu 15 May 08
kk wrote:KK I don't agree Leeds were 2nd best in Division 1 on footballing terms. The 15 point deduction meant that it was easy for the manager to create a sense of victimhood amongst the players, that would have been easy to galvanize them into playing far better than would otherwise have been the case. I actually believe that Leeds were let off extrememly lightly by the authorities and that justice will only be served if Carlisle prevail tonight. I also resent the comments here that insuate that Dick Knight would ever copy the lying, underhand tactics that Ken Bates seems to have no difficulty undertaking.
Georgie Worst wrote: Mr Bloom - It sounds like you might have originated from the same egg as kk ! No idea what egg chasing means but I probably know more about international football and futsal than you know about yourself !kk has a fixation about the albion going up and the lack of support...never mentions how Leeds could do the right thing and pay their creditors the money they stole from them ? C\\\'mon kk how about something constructive ? I see you\\\'re already taking it for granted that Leeds are 2nd best to Carlisle !Worst .. your name says it all .. you should learn to read. How I wait for the day Albion go into admin and then see where your holier than thou attitude gets you. Also I never said we are second best to Carlisle. I said on footballing terms we were second in the League. Good to see you are wasting your time moaning at Leeds fans rather than finding out why it\'s all gone quiet over Falmer ...it will never get built..... I\'d love to see someone tell me where you are getting the money from ! IKEA ?
J, Hove says...
3:36pm Thu 15 May 08
kk wrote:KK I don't agree Leeds were 2nd best in Division 1 on footballing terms. The 15 point deduction meant that it was easy for the manager to create a sense of victimhood amongst the players, that would have been easy to galvanize them into playing far better than would otherwise have been the case. I actually believe that Leeds were let off extrememly lightly by the authorities and that justice will only be served if Carlisle prevail tonight. I also resent the comments here that insuate that Dick Knight would ever copy the lying, underhand tactics that Ken Bates seems to have no difficulty undertaking.
Georgie Worst wrote: Mr Bloom - It sounds like you might have originated from the same egg as kk ! No idea what egg chasing means but I probably know more about international football and futsal than you know about yourself !kk has a fixation about the albion going up and the lack of support...never mentions how Leeds could do the right thing and pay their creditors the money they stole from them ? C\\\'mon kk how about something constructive ? I see you\\\'re already taking it for granted that Leeds are 2nd best to Carlisle !Worst .. your name says it all .. you should learn to read. How I wait for the day Albion go into admin and then see where your holier than thou attitude gets you. Also I never said we are second best to Carlisle. I said on footballing terms we were second in the League. Good to see you are wasting your time moaning at Leeds fans rather than finding out why it\'s all gone quiet over Falmer ...it will never get built..... I\'d love to see someone tell me where you are getting the money from ! IKEA ?
McKenzie, Llangenny says...
4:50pm Thu 15 May 08
kk, hove says...
5:12pm Thu 15 May 08
J wrote:it's laughable to say Leeds had an unfair advantage because they were docked 15pts .. typical Brighton victim mentality. Oh every thing Brighton does is so squeaky clean ... watch and learn ... also McKenzie might realise if he could read that Brighton fans attacked Leeds fans simply having a beer after the game a couple of years ago ... hmmm where did all the people who get jailed come from ? Brigthon ... enough said ...
kk wrote:KK I don\'t agree Leeds were 2nd best in Division 1 on footballing terms. The 15 point deduction meant that it was easy for the manager to create a sense of victimhood amongst the players, that would have been easy to galvanize them into playing far better than would otherwise have been the case. I actually believe that Leeds were let off extrememly lightly by the authorities and that justice will only be served if Carlisle prevail tonight. I also resent the comments here that insuate that Dick Knight would ever copy the lying, underhand tactics that Ken Bates seems to have no difficulty undertaking.Georgie Worst wrote: Mr Bloom - It sounds like you might have originated from the same egg as kk ! No idea what egg chasing means but I probably know more about international football and futsal than you know about yourself !kk has a fixation about the albion going up and the lack of support...never mentions how Leeds could do the right thing and pay their creditors the money they stole from them ? C\\\\\\\'mon kk how about something constructive ? I see you\\\\\\\'re already taking it for granted that Leeds are 2nd best to Carlisle !Worst .. your name says it all .. you should learn to read. How I wait for the day Albion go into admin and then see where your holier than thou attitude gets you. Also I never said we are second best to Carlisle. I said on footballing terms we were second in the League. Good to see you are wasting your time moaning at Leeds fans rather than finding out why it\\\'s all gone quiet over Falmer ...it will never get built..... I\\\'d love to see someone tell me where you are getting the money from ! IKEA ?
Peter Palace, portslade says...
5:17pm Thu 15 May 08
J, Hove says...
5:26pm Thu 15 May 08
kk wrote:KK You are seeing things that I did not write. I did not say that the 15 point deduction was an advantage. I merely pointed out that I do not consider them to be the second best in Div one. Carlisle will prove that tonight.
J wrote:it\'s laughable to say Leeds had an unfair advantage because they were docked 15pts .. typical Brighton victim mentality. Oh every thing Brighton does is so squeaky clean ... watch and learn ... also McKenzie might realise if he could read that Brighton fans attacked Leeds fans simply having a beer after the game a couple of years ago ... hmmm where did all the people who get jailed come from ? Brigthon ... enough said ...kk wrote:KK I don\\\'t agree Leeds were 2nd best in Division 1 on footballing terms. The 15 point deduction meant that it was easy for the manager to create a sense of victimhood amongst the players, that would have been easy to galvanize them into playing far better than would otherwise have been the case. I actually believe that Leeds were let off extrememly lightly by the authorities and that justice will only be served if Carlisle prevail tonight. I also resent the comments here that insuate that Dick Knight would ever copy the lying, underhand tactics that Ken Bates seems to have no difficulty undertaking.Georgie Worst wrote: Mr Bloom - It sounds like you might have originated from the same egg as kk ! No idea what egg chasing means but I probably know more about international football and futsal than you know about yourself !kk has a fixation about the albion going up and the lack of support...never mentions how Leeds could do the right thing and pay their creditors the money they stole from them ? C\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'mon kk how about something constructive ? I see you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re already taking it for granted that Leeds are 2nd best to Carlisle !Worst .. your name says it all .. you should learn to read. How I wait for the day Albion go into admin and then see where your holier than thou attitude gets you. Also I never said we are second best to Carlisle. I said on footballing terms we were second in the League. Good to see you are wasting your time moaning at Leeds fans rather than finding out why it\\\\\\\'s all gone quiet over Falmer ...it will never get built..... I\\\\\\\'d love to see someone tell me where you are getting the money from ! IKEA ?
kk, hove says...
5:33pm Thu 15 May 08
Bored, says...
8:59pm Thu 15 May 08
Roy Roland, Denmark says...
10:39pm Thu 15 May 08
Mr Bloom wrote:Balm,Ball,Balloon whatever your name is. My yaks fleece is prada baby and is real gear,You see in Denmark we wear the real stuff.With reference to your comments Yeah leeds are there but not for long my little Burger Flipper. You have some built up anger within i take it your small and bald?? thought so..im off to feed my bears then tend to my wifes poorley feet.
Roy Ralph Ray or whatever, If you would like to talk about football then talk about football not all the politics that goes on behind the scenes that has nothing to do with what goes on on the football pitch! As for my attire it does not consist of sheepskin and Yak fleece something that you would be more probably accustomed to.
Vincent, says...
5:11am Fri 16 May 08
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8:57am Fri 16 May 08
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1:48pm Fri 16 May 08
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Georgie Worst, Australia says...
12:56am Thu 15 May 08
With their spending power its a pity they dont pay their debts off first !