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2:56pm Wednesday 4th June 2008
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Hundreds of protesters rioted in Brighton this afternoon.
Demonstrators descended on arms factory EDO MBM Technology in Moulsecoomb after a lunchtime rally at The Level.
By 3pm they had reportedly broken through the factory gates and damaged cars inside.
Police struggled to contain the crowds using dogs and batons.
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sm, says...
3:18pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Sniffy, The dials says...
3:32pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Dave, Wivelsfield says...
3:32pm Wed 4 Jun 08
sm wrote:BST and GMT? Would the Argus know the difference?
By 3pm they had reportedly broken through the factory gates story posted: 2:56pm today go figure.
Thomas, Brighton says...
3:33pm Wed 4 Jun 08
concerned parent, brighton says...
3:47pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Julian, Moulsecoomb says...
3:53pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Paul, Peacehaven says...
3:57pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Wilftop, brighton says...
3:59pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Julian wrote:Yep they are mainly jobless parasites trying to convince themselves they have purpose and significance.
If the so called protesters really believed in what they're meant to stand for they'd realise you don't fight fire with fire - unless, as appears to be the case - they're just jobless parasites trying to convince themselves they have purpose and significance. Well, of course they do have purpose and significance but here's a lesson for the clueless ... be constructive not just destructive - there's enough of that in our world. All your doing is disrupting Moulsecoomb residents lives, intimidating the 300 odd young children at the Primary school and costing hard working tax payers thousands and in the end, doing nothing to change anything in a positive way at all - well done, great achievement - not!
lee, Mouslecoombe says...
4:00pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Les, Coombe road says...
4:06pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Thomas wrote:Not correct!!! At 1.40 they had only got to the bottom of Coombe Road! Nothing was moving along Lewes Road apart from them and police with camcorders.
I saw the protesters march past my university (Mouslecoombe campus) a little before 1 this afternoon followed by atleast seven police vans. So you\'re saying they hung around for two hours and then decided to break through the gates?
censored, Brighton says...
4:08pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Wilftop wrote:In the Gulf War of 1990/91, 70% of the so-called "smart" bombs missed their targets completely. The figure for the current Iraq War hasn't been fully investigated as figures aren't available, but it won't be significantly different - especially given that "shock and awe" dropped more bombs on Baghdad than ever before.
Julian wrote:Yep they are mainly jobless parasites trying to convince themselves they have purpose and significance.
If the so called protesters really believed in what they're meant to stand for they'd realise you don't fight fire with fire - unless, as appears to be the case - they're just jobless parasites trying to convince themselves they have purpose and significance. Well, of course they do have purpose and significance but here's a lesson for the clueless ... be constructive not just destructive - there's enough of that in our world. All your doing is disrupting Moulsecoomb residents lives, intimidating the 300 odd young children at the Primary school and costing hard working tax payers thousands and in the end, doing nothing to change anything in a positive way at all - well done, great achievement - not!
Have you seen the state of some of them, they wouldn't be allowed to work in the the state they are in.
They posted on the forum and resorted to insults calling most residents murderers (sp) because we understand EDO produce parts for commercial air liners too and that we understand smart bombs are more reliable these days and do thankfully no injure as many inocent people this day and age.
Paul, Brighton Seafront says...
4:16pm Wed 4 Jun 08
concerned parent wrote:Perhaps they will learn something along the lines of standing up for your beliefs instead of scuttling home to attach themselves to the PS3 or X-Box and then scoff lots of e-numbers.
what a lovely sight for the children to see on their way home from school. god knows how many riot police running down the hill being goaded by protesters. alot of frightened children and parents. good planning by the protestors!!!!!!!!!
Colin, Cardiff says...
4:22pm Wed 4 Jun 08
S Hame, btn says...
4:26pm Wed 4 Jun 08
concerned parent wrote:Those children should be grateful that they are not on the receiving end of one of the bombs that we help manafacture.
what a lovely sight for the children to see on their way home from school. god knows how many riot police running down the hill being goaded by protesters. alot of frightened children and parents. good planning by the protestors!!!!!!!!!
Octavia, Hove says...
4:27pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Eric Cartman, Lewes Road says...
4:29pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Dave, Brighton says...
4:33pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Simon, Newhaven says...
4:36pm Wed 4 Jun 08
CON, btn says...
4:36pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Andrew, Patcham says...
4:40pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Julian wrote:Sound advice. You should never fight fire with fire.
If the so called protesters really believed in what they're meant to stand for they'd realise you don't fight fire with fire - unless, as appears to be the case - they're just jobless parasites trying to convince themselves they have purpose and significance. Well, of course they do have purpose and significance but here's a lesson for the clueless ... be constructive not just destructive - there's enough of that in our world. All your doing is disrupting Moulsecoomb residents lives, intimidating the 300 odd young children at the Primary school and costing hard working tax payers thousands and in the end, doing nothing to change anything in a positive way at all - well done, great achievement - not!
Dave, hove says...
4:44pm Wed 4 Jun 08
you know, Brighton says...
4:52pm Wed 4 Jun 08
FRED, brighton says...
4:54pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Edo Protestor, Brighton says...
4:55pm Wed 4 Jun 08
chris, brighton(resident) says...
4:57pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Jo H, Rottingdean says...
4:58pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Tim, Lewes Rd says...
5:09pm Wed 4 Jun 08
sm, says...
5:11pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Andy, coldean says...
5:16pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Boss Hogg, says...
5:20pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Tony B. Liar, Downing St. says...
5:22pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Simon wrote:defend themselves against whom exactly? frightened citizens of a country illegally invaded to secure a constant oil flow to the west perchance?
EDO should have turned their weapons on the do-gooders.
If it weren't for the sterling work of companies like EDO, our good lads in the middle-east wouldn't be able to defend themselves.
EDO should electrify the gates next time.
Monkey, Brighton says...
5:22pm Wed 4 Jun 08
lee, Mouslecoombe says...
5:28pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Boss Hogg wrote:I'd take their side! at least if it was a choice between them and the arms industry in our community! however as I said earlier, how come they protest about something so important when the majority of people are working? next time do it on the weekend!!! so real brightonians can join in!
I wonder if every single one of these protestors were taken to one side and asked in detail as to what they were actually protesting about - I doubt if half of them would know any great detail at all. Go home. Get a job. Stop going to Galstonbury - it is too mainstream for you all now. Protest with your vote as all other adults do. Tax your cars. Wash your hair. Simple - people may start taking your side then.
jo, haywards heath says...
5:38pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Arthur Brainleft, Eastern Front Alobotamy says...
5:41pm Wed 4 Jun 08
sm wrote:This is true . However the more intelligent members of society will be able to separate any ill feelings they have towards the so called demonstrators/rioter
posted by: some tree hugging hippy Some people who posted here may not value the civil liberties that have been destroyed over the past 10 years or so, but the day may come when they feel strongly enough by all means demonstrate. However when you go around maliciously committing criminal damage, you lose what small sympathy some people may have for your cause. Scummer.
Arthur Brainleft, Eastern Front Alobotamy says...
5:45pm Wed 4 Jun 08
jo wrote:'Dear Adolf, please stop rounding my friends up and putting them on a train - Thank you'
Just write a letter next time you don't like something a company does, it's so less disruptive to the rest of the community and gets your point across far better. Most people view protestors as just people who enjoy causing trouble and they're not taken seriously anymore. Stop wasting police time and get a life. By the way protestors, I hope your homes all got burgled while the cops were out policing your pointless protest!
Rosusa Mansuran, Brighton says...
6:00pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Arthur Brainleft wrote:Hmmmm, I don't think the above would have worked somehow! I am all for freedom of speech but I think somewhere along the way something has got lost, like common sense on all sides!
jo wrote: Just write a letter next time you don't like something a company does, it's so less disruptive to the rest of the community and gets your point across far better. Most people view protestors as just people who enjoy causing trouble and they're not taken seriously anymore. Stop wasting police time and get a life. By the way protestors, I hope your homes all got burgled while the cops were out policing your pointless protest!'Dear Adolf, please stop rounding my friends up and putting them on a train - Thank you'
OMG, Keeping my head down says...
6:15pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Nichola, Brighton says...
6:20pm Wed 4 Jun 08
jo, brighton says...
6:29pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Oli, Worthing says...
6:40pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Boss Hogg, says...
6:41pm Wed 4 Jun 08
lee wrote:I am a 'REAL BRIGHTONIAN' born and bred.
Boss Hogg wrote: I wonder if every single one of these protestors were taken to one side and asked in detail as to what they were actually protesting about - I doubt if half of them would know any great detail at all. Go home. Get a job. Stop going to Galstonbury - it is too mainstream for you all now. Protest with your vote as all other adults do. Tax your cars. Wash your hair. Simple - people may start taking your side then.I'd take their side! at least if it was a choice between them and the arms industry in our community! however as I said earlier, how come they protest about something so important when the majority of people are working? next time do it on the weekend!!! so real brightonians can join in!
Bill, Brighton says...
6:42pm Wed 4 Jun 08
jo wrote:jo, there are plenty of jobs around for people, just that the benefits system doesn't help people to work if they get more in benefits than taking a proper job and paying tax!
jobs are very far &few between these days,do the protesters not realise that edo provide jobs for our local community,its not all about making bombs.
Peter, Brighton says...
6:43pm Wed 4 Jun 08
concerned parent wrote:Having driven around Moulsescum ,,i'm sure it would be a nice change from what greets them at home..
what a lovely sight for the children to see on their way home from school. god knows how many riot police running down the hill being goaded by protesters. alot of frightened children and parents. good planning by the protestors!!!!!!!!!
lee, Mouslecoombe says...
6:56pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Boss Hogg wrote:Alright! just said I agreed with them on principle! sheesh...didn't realsie so many of my fellow residents had such respect for Arms dealers and the rich.
lee wrote:I am a \'REAL BRIGHTONIAN\' born and bred. I would not protest with them if they paid me. They protest during the week because they have concerts to go to over the weekend or have to travel to other planetary important protests around the UK. You know to protest against a company that produces wax that is used on cars that are driven on roads which is shared by the military. Therefore it is the wax company\'s fault about war. \'Majority of people working\' is a very apt comment though. I wonder if any of them ever have.Boss Hogg wrote: I wonder if every single one of these protestors were taken to one side and asked in detail as to what they were actually protesting about - I doubt if half of them would know any great detail at all. Go home. Get a job. Stop going to Galstonbury - it is too mainstream for you all now. Protest with your vote as all other adults do. Tax your cars. Wash your hair. Simple - people may start taking your side then.I\'d take their side! at least if it was a choice between them and the arms industry in our community! however as I said earlier, how come they protest about something so important when the majority of people are working? next time do it on the weekend!!! so real brightonians can join in!
homer, says...
6:59pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Dave wrote:exactly, they are the jobless oiks that we have to pay for. if that is what my taxes pay for, the i want to withdraw from the tax system. edo doesn't just make parts for bombs, this is a small part of the business. if edo are forced to close, where are the employees going to go? on the dole queue with the oiks
Protesting at 3pm? shouldn't they be in work at that time of the day?!..
Oh..
Boss Hogg, says...
7:04pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Peter, Scotland says...
7:18pm Wed 4 Jun 08
anonymous, brighton says...
7:19pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Sgriff, Brighton resident says...
7:20pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Sherman McCoy, Brighton says...
7:20pm Wed 4 Jun 08
jo, brighton says...
7:22pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Bill wrote:bill i was made redundant after 23yrs of working last march,i am doing something very worthwhile now & training to be a nurse,but after looking at the terrible jobs available no wonder these lazy protesters don't want to work!!!!
jo wrote: jobs are very far &few between these days,do the protesters not realise that edo provide jobs for our local community,its not all about making bombs.jo, there are plenty of jobs around for people, just that the benefits system doesn\'t help people to work if they get more in benefits than taking a proper job and paying tax! As for the protestors, do they really think it will make ANY difference to EDO? Write to the government, don\'t hassle ordinary people who can\'t afford to not work at places like that! And good on the police for preventing them from protesting outside the gates, everybody who works there has the right to free access without intimidation which is exactly what they would have had to face if the so called \"protestors\" had been outside! Perhaps these protestors ought to do charity work, or join VSO and help the people in the countries affected, rather than their trendy \"oh we\'re so much better than you cos we care so much\" protestations!
normal.resident, says...
7:29pm Wed 4 Jun 08
anonymous wrote:What results? Has the factory closed? Will it close? Will wars stop? Has your plight gained any support? The answer is no. All the protesters have achieved is alienating themselves further, increasing the stereotypes held by the majority, making children scared and sending police home who never wanted to be there injured and costing the tax payer huge ammounts of unnecessary expense... well done!
'jobless parasites' is unfair, most people making these comments are making judgements about people they've never met. protestors were viciously attacked by police, not the other way around. students dressed in red isn't intimidating, riot cops are, without the cops, nothing would have been at all violent. this was a peaceful demo that was attacked. and yes, we have tried alternatives andf there are all useless. direct action gets results.
anon, sussex says...
7:35pm Wed 4 Jun 08
anon, sussex says...
7:42pm Wed 4 Jun 08
uppety jobsweth, says...
7:43pm Wed 4 Jun 08
concerned parent wrote:I feel sorry for your kids if youve taught them to be afraid of police and protesters standing up for what they believe in.
what a lovely sight for the children to see on their way home from school. god knows how many riot police running down the hill being goaded by protesters. alot of frightened children and parents. good planning by the protestors!!!!!!!!!
goodone, brighton says...
3:08pm Wed 4 Jun 08