Sussex streetlight blunder costs £100k

Sussex streetlight blunder costs £100k Sussex streetlight blunder costs £100k

Thousands of residents have been left in the dark because of a council blunder that could cost taxpayers £100,000.

Town hall bosses at East Sussex County Council spent months installing new sensors on more than 3,000 streetlights as a way to save cash.

But officials have been left red-faced after they discovered their hi-tech devices were not turning on at the correct time, and failed to recognise the clocks going forward and back.

Now 3,300 sensors installed over the summer in Newhaven, Seaford, Peacehaven and Telscombe will need to be replaced at a cost of around £30 each.

Peacehaven resident Vicci Baker, 58, said her husband, 62, fell from the front step of their home in Fox Hill after stepping out into pitch blackness at around 6am.

But when she complained to the council she was told to “use a torch”.

Councillor Carl Maynard, the council cabinet member responsible for streetlights, admitted the blunder was “disappointing”.

He said: “Unfortunately all the sensors will need to be taken out and new ones put in. We’d like to apologise to residents for this mistake. We don’t know where the fault lies yet but we are in amicable discussions with our contractor.

“We will be replacing all affected units and resolving the problem within the next six months.”

When asked whether the contractor, Crawley-based company Colas, would be forced to shoulder the cost of the replacement sensors, Coun Maynard said: “We don’t yet know whether the contract was written in that way.”

In order to save money, the council installed the sensors to automatically switch off streetlights in residential areas from 12.30am to 5.30am.

But as the days shortened, people began to complain they were going to work in the dark.

Council employees then realised the sensors would only work on Greenwich Mean Time and were turning on the lights an hour late.

When the clocks go back on Sunday, the sensors will work correctly – but all 3,300 will need to be replaced before British Summer Time returns in March.

Mrs Baker said her husband took a tumble on Monday morning as he stepped out into the darkness.

She said: “I rang the council but they told me nothing was wrong. One person even told me it was fine and I should use a torch.

“Another officer told me people don’t get up for work that early so it didn’t matter – but firemen, milkmen and postmen do.

“People could be murdered or raped in the darkness because of this stupidity. It’s completely ridiculous and the buck stops at the council.”

Councillor David Tutt, leader of the Liberal Democrat group on the county council, said there appeared to have been “a major error”.

He said: “It would be funny if it wasn’t so expensive. Someone has got to be held accountable for this.

“I will be asking serious questions of Carl Maynard and I just hope the contract was written in a way that protected the taxpayer from these costs.”

Comments(25)

saveHOVE says...
9:48am Wed 24 Oct 12

What is specified in the contract, hmmmmm?

Fight_Back says...
9:51am Wed 24 Oct 12

This story has a funny smell !!!! Firstly, if SENSORS were installed then by their very name they SENSE something - I'd suggest that would be light levels ( you can't sense time ! ) ? If that is the case then the time is irrelevant as is the change in BST to GMT. If on the other hand the council have ordered timers then the council should be making the supplier fix the problem for free. Any timer by its very definition should know the correct time. This yet again shows councils employ the dregs that private employers refuse and it's the taxpayer that suffers.

Joshiman says...
9:52am Wed 24 Oct 12

The contract should have been water tight.Dont we have solicitors to check these things out?Why should the taxpayer always pay for the incompetents.There are no excuses acceptable.If it was a private company someone responsible would be sacked.

Tailgaters Anonymous says...
10:31am Wed 24 Oct 12

ESCC needs a brain check. Parking meters sprawled across several towns, street lights that are mis-timed, roads that are poorly maintained!
What do they provide for the extortionate charge contained in our Council Tax?
Time the Government did something to eliminate this unnecessary layer of mindless bureaucracy!

Mr_Tom says...
10:41am Wed 24 Oct 12

people could be murdered or raped in the dark? someone's husband took a tumble purely because of a lack of streetlights for an hour? who are these morons and why are they allowed out on their own! :) get over it.. what are you going to do if there's a power cut! aaaah ha ha ha....

Crystal Ball says...
11:42am Wed 24 Oct 12

Have any lights at the end of any tunnels been turned off?

mimseycal says...
12:04pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Fight_Back wrote:
This story has a funny smell !!!! Firstly, if SENSORS were installed then by their very name they SENSE something - I'd suggest that would be light levels ( you can't sense time ! ) ? If that is the case then the time is irrelevant as is the change in BST to GMT. If on the other hand the council have ordered timers then the council should be making the supplier fix the problem for free. Any timer by its very definition should know the correct time. This yet again shows councils employ the dregs that private employers refuse and it's the taxpayer that suffers.
Good points!

Rocco10 says...
12:21pm Wed 24 Oct 12

"Use a torch". Lol! I'm sure it wasn't as cheeky a comment as the Argus make it out to be. If you can't see if it's clear, don't assume. The lights where I live go off at 11:30pm anyway.

JoeBlow says...
1:27pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Fight_Back wrote:
This story has a funny smell !!!! Firstly, if SENSORS were installed then by their very name they SENSE something - I'd suggest that would be light levels ( you can't sense time ! ) ? If that is the case then the time is irrelevant as is the change in BST to GMT. If on the other hand the council have ordered timers then the council should be making the supplier fix the problem for free. Any timer by its very definition should know the correct time. This yet again shows councils employ the dregs that private employers refuse and it's the taxpayer that suffers.
Not completely good points. It is quite possible to combine timers and sensors so that the sensors only work between certain times. As the whole point was to have the lights off between certain hours, sensors alone wouldn't have done the job. As for timers, I'd agree that they should tell the correct time. But I can also quite easily believe that someone on the council said "We'll have that model" without checking its capabilities properly, in which case it wouldn't only be the supplier's fault.

Tis I says...
1:36pm Wed 24 Oct 12

I'm sure the sensors will adjust in the end just like we do when the clocks change for the Scottish farmers!

made up says...
3:14pm Wed 24 Oct 12

So he fell from the first step of their home. Maybe she should consider fitting a light to her property like most others do.
Murdered or raped in the dark? Maybe a bit of an extreme statement there.

lillylou says...
3:45pm Wed 24 Oct 12

This is Cameron's medieval Britain go out with torches and candles how embarrassing is this goverment!!

censored says...
4:58pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Someone must have specified which timers to use.

If it was the council, then they're at fault.

If it was the contractor who recommended them, then the recommendation does not fit the brief which is to turn the lights on at a specific time every day, so the contractor is at fault.


I suspect, however, the contractor only installed what they were told to.

funkyyoyo says...
5:44pm Wed 24 Oct 12

has anyone noticed the led streetlights along montpelier road and denmark terrace!!! great idea as cheaper to run,shame there not as bright as normal street lights,perhaps 6 led panels instead of 4 would make the road a little brighter And safer

BenUk says...
6:09pm Wed 24 Oct 12

I wonder if Brighton & Hove Council will take that " we don't care use a torch" attertude to people who don't pay there council tax!! suddenly they care alot!!

ShorehamBeachcomber says...
6:24pm Wed 24 Oct 12

If they only work under GMT there is no problem just switch them all to come on when you want for one period & an hour too early for the other period still saving 5 hours a day for half the year & 4 for the other half, far less than £100k relacement costs & much better than the past

Unbias says...
7:58pm Wed 24 Oct 12

I hope these 'bosses' will be reprimanded
for their actions...I very much doubt it though?......

Sweep it aside, the tax payer will rectify it and they will continue to earn their fat-packs.

Thatsjustyummy says...
8:02pm Wed 24 Oct 12

I'm glad we don't have streetlights where I live. Even on the many walks back from the pub 'slightly inebriated' in the pitch black won't make me want streetlights.

Strangely I've never fallen over on any of the walks back, or even there.

tonybee says...
1:38am Thu 25 Oct 12

Yet another example of council morons
They should all retire & have their overpriced pensions revoked & finally
experience how most people live

IM35461 says...
6:34am Thu 25 Oct 12

When I first complained to the Council they told me it was not dark enough but eventually they came clean and admitted they were stuck on GMT so should work as advertised during wintertime and then turn off late and turn on late again.

We will see next week...

Of course the figure of £100K does not include the labour costs to change the 3300 PECU devices. I would guess it would cost £70.00 per lamp post for the electrician and his access platform which would make the cost £330K

They also told me the "energy saving project" would not make any financial savings for several years...

Made In Sussex says...
9:14am Thu 25 Oct 12

If the council are paying for this then that implies they ordered something with a specification that did not match their requirements. That is not the fault of the supplier\manufacture
r of the lamps but incompetence on the part of the council for not properly considering what they needed and checking the spec of what they werer buying agsinst this... before they commited to buying!

One View says...
4:06pm Thu 25 Oct 12

funkyyoyo wrote:
has anyone noticed the led streetlights along montpelier road and denmark terrace!!! great idea as cheaper to run,shame there not as bright as normal street lights,perhaps 6 led panels instead of 4 would make the road a little brighter And safer
Yes they are brilliant and energy saving. Brighton & Hove is currently undergoing a major revamp in lighting. Hopefully those horrible motorway style yellow sodium lights will all be gone soon.Good riddance! Welcome to the new white lights :o)

Bill in Hanover says...
6:09pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Didn't this article come up a few weeks ago and the Council blamed it on seagulls c**pping on the sensors

disappointedGill says...
1:53pm Fri 26 Oct 12

One View wrote:
funkyyoyo wrote:
has anyone noticed the led streetlights along montpelier road and denmark terrace!!! great idea as cheaper to run,shame there not as bright as normal street lights,perhaps 6 led panels instead of 4 would make the road a little brighter And safer
Yes they are brilliant and energy saving. Brighton & Hove is currently undergoing a major revamp in lighting. Hopefully those horrible motorway style yellow sodium lights will all be gone soon.Good riddance! Welcome to the new white lights :o)
Agreed - good for Brighton and Hove making the effort of those yellow lights. Goodbye skyglow and hello to lighting where it's meant to be.

disappointedGill says...
2:09pm Fri 26 Oct 12

Bill in Hanover wrote:
Didn't this article come up a few weeks ago and the Council blamed it on seagulls c**pping on the sensors
Think you misunderstood maybe you could call them up and clarify with them?

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