Brighton and Hove's homeless population set to rise (From The Argus)

"The number of rough sleepers has massively increased over the last two years and that is only going to get bigger over the next two years as the welfare reforms bite".
Priority needs to be given to locals.Most of the people that ask me for money do not have a local Dialect.
Brighton is a soft touch for these people find out where they have come from and give them a oneway ticket back.

"Mr Winter said there was excellent provision for homeless people in Brighton, Eastbourne and Hastings..."

Don't bleedin' well make an announcement like that FFS! It can only serve to act as an open invitation for even more people turn up with a one-way ticket to the land of easy handouts! If there are indeed concerns that the problem is escalating then WHY would you want to make it even worse with a statement like that?

though there has been a sizeable homeless community for years in brighton, much of it transient therefore normally increasing/decreasin
g at various times of the year but i have certainly noticed the more permenant increase in the number of homeless bods around town in the last year or so they seem to everywhere.

Just back in from an excellent day out with friends - thank you.

Without exception our day was ruined by these people; drunk and obnoxious beggars, in your face, smelly with dogs (in some cases).

If you came downstairs tomorrow am and found smelly, nasty and very drunk people in your kitchen, you'd call the police and expect them to be removed, why doesn't the same principle apply to the scum on our streets?

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ng wrote:
Just back in from an excellent day out with friends - thank you.

Without exception our day was ruined by these people; drunk and obnoxious beggars, in your face, smelly with dogs (in some cases).

If you came downstairs tomorrow am and found smelly, nasty and very drunk people in your kitchen, you'd call the police and expect them to be removed, why doesn't the same principle apply to the scum on our streets?

I will ask my mum and dad not to hang around your place, I can only apologise on their behalf.

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ng wrote:
Just back in from an excellent day out with friends - thank you.

Without exception our day was ruined by these people; drunk and obnoxious beggars, in your face, smelly with dogs (in some cases).

If you came downstairs tomorrow am and found smelly, nasty and very drunk people in your kitchen, you'd call the police and expect them to be removed, why doesn't the same principle apply to the scum on our streets?

I will ask my mum and dad not to hang around your place, I can only apologise on their behalf.

Accepted, as is the concept that there will always be one or two exceptions.

Can you spare me......90p, a cigarette, a few pounds etc?

Response.. No get a job, stop claiming benefits etc

A lot of these are foreign so send um back but for Brits this is sick and it's Cameron's vile reshime he is saddam and should be got rid of , the man is not all there and I can't believe this nutter is running our country ! Get crazy Cameron out !!!

Good to see from the above posts that the tradition of Christian charity lives on the the poorest in society.

If you want to put off people coming to B&H then lets make other areas more attractive not B&H worse!

The cuts so far are only the beginning. Tomorrows website will make interesting reading with £25million in cuts likely in the councul's budget. These cuts are happening all over the country and when combined with benefit cuts will see families, many hardworking who find themselves out of work, in desperate straits and homeless.

Tax cuts for the wealthy meanwhile. We are all in it together.

rolivan wrote:
"The number of rough sleepers has massively increased over the last two years and that is only going to get bigger over the next two years as the welfare reforms bite".
Priority needs to be given to locals.Most of the people that ask me for money do not have a local Dialect.
Brighton is a soft touch for these people find out where they have come from and give them a oneway ticket back.

Local dialect? Have I missed something? The Brighton and Sussex accents are sadly on their way out if not dead and buried already. In their places is a "Southern English" accent.

A sad situation and dialects are dying all over the country.

Soylent Green is people--homeless people.

Your day was ruined..... You are a sensitive petal. Can't your boyfriend protect you from these nuisance people.

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Your day was ruined..... You are a sensitive petal. Can't your boyfriend protect you from these nuisance people.

Why does there have to be compromise, we all know its wrong, we all want it resolved, yet the weaker among us become accepting of it. Fortunately there are stronger people in the population who are prepared to address the 'elephant in the room', which will ultimately benefit all of us.

The sooner we clear the streets of these eyesores the better for everyone.

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Your day was ruined..... You are a sensitive petal. Can't your boyfriend protect you from these nuisance people.

Why does there have to be compromise, we all know its wrong, we all want it resolved, yet the weaker among us become accepting of it. Fortunately there are stronger people in the population who are prepared to address the 'elephant in the room', which will ultimately benefit all of us.

The sooner we clear the streets of these eyesores the better for everyone.

Those 'eyesores' are people. And I know you are probably just trolling, but it is still a horrible thing to say. I really hope you are just a teenager having a laugh because I would hate to know adults have such disregard to other human beings. Why don't you try sleeping on the streets for a month, in the winter, and see how you like it? Tell me how many jobs you find. Tell me how you don't need help.

This country shouldn't get rid of migrants of 'freeloaders', it should get rid of people like you, with no conscience or morals. Starting for those in the government.

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ng wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Your day was ruined..... You are a sensitive petal. Can't your boyfriend protect you from these nuisance people.

Why does there have to be compromise, we all know its wrong, we all want it resolved, yet the weaker among us become accepting of it. Fortunately there are stronger people in the population who are prepared to address the 'elephant in the room', which will ultimately benefit all of us.

The sooner we clear the streets of these eyesores the better for everyone.

Those 'eyesores' are people. And I know you are probably just trolling, but it is still a horrible thing to say. I really hope you are just a teenager having a laugh because I would hate to know adults have such disregard to other human beings. Why don't you try sleeping on the streets for a month, in the winter, and see how you like it? Tell me how many jobs you find. Tell me how you don't need help.

This country shouldn't get rid of migrants of 'freeloaders', it should get rid of people like you, with no conscience or morals. Starting for those in the government.

More than happy for people to support others, however not through the use of the hard working's taxes. If you want to buy someone a can of special brew then go ahead, just don't include them in my round.

HJarrs wrote:
Good to see from the above posts that the tradition of Christian charity lives on the the poorest in society.

If you want to put off people coming to B&H then lets make other areas more attractive not B&H worse!

The cuts so far are only the beginning. Tomorrows website will make interesting reading with £25million in cuts likely in the councul's budget. These cuts are happening all over the country and when combined with benefit cuts will see families, many hardworking who find themselves out of work, in desperate straits and homeless.

Tax cuts for the wealthy meanwhile. We are all in it together.

Its probably escaped your notice being Green, but your council buddies are actually doing their very best to trash B&H and are defnitely making it worse - have word will you please

HJarrs wrote:

rolivan wrote:
"The number of rough sleepers has massively increased over the last two years and that is only going to get bigger over the next two years as the welfare reforms bite".
Priority needs to be given to locals.Most of the people that ask me for money do not have a local Dialect.
Brighton is a soft touch for these people find out where they have come from and give them a oneway ticket back.

Local dialect? Have I missed something? The Brighton and Sussex accents are sadly on their way out if not dead and buried already. In their places is a "Southern English" accent.

A sad situation and dialects are dying all over the country.

Seeing that you seem to be so well informed,how much property does Brighton and Hove City Council own that is not being fully utilised? I don't mean just Houses either.

rolivan wrote:

HJarrs wrote:

rolivan wrote:
"The number of rough sleepers has massively increased over the last two years and that is only going to get bigger over the next two years as the welfare reforms bite".
Priority needs to be given to locals.Most of the people that ask me for money do not have a local Dialect.
Brighton is a soft touch for these people find out where they have come from and give them a oneway ticket back.

Local dialect? Have I missed something? The Brighton and Sussex accents are sadly on their way out if not dead and buried already. In their places is a "Southern English" accent.

A sad situation and dialects are dying all over the country.

Seeing that you seem to be so well informed,how much property does Brighton and Hove City Council own that is not being fully utilised? I don't mean just Houses either.

So you accept my point about dialect?

As for your other point, ask the council.

HJarrs wrote:

rolivan wrote:

HJarrs wrote:

rolivan wrote:
"The number of rough sleepers has massively increased over the last two years and that is only going to get bigger over the next two years as the welfare reforms bite".
Priority needs to be given to locals.Most of the people that ask me for money do not have a local Dialect.
Brighton is a soft touch for these people find out where they have come from and give them a oneway ticket back.

Local dialect? Have I missed something? The Brighton and Sussex accents are sadly on their way out if not dead and buried already. In their places is a "Southern English" accent.

A sad situation and dialects are dying all over the country.

Seeing that you seem to be so well informed,how much property does Brighton and Hove City Council own that is not being fully utilised? I don't mean just Houses either.

So you accept my point about dialect?

As for your other point, ask the council.

I can't think of anythink at the moment however given time I will think of somethink.I'll get on the blower in the morning,

I personally don't find them terrifying. I find them sad. Terrifying is a council spending money on cycle lanes and unused electric car charging points while their leader tells us the council hasn't got any money.
Shocking, stupid, incredulous and irresponsible.
Go back to your home towns Greens and let the locals look after the town because we know what we need and want.

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
I personally don't find them terrifying. I find them sad. Terrifying is a council spending money on cycle lanes and unused electric car charging points while their leader tells us the council hasn't got any money.
Shocking, stupid, incredulous and irresponsible.
Go back to your home towns Greens and let the locals look after the town because we know what we need and want.

Maxwell, I think you are correct, but not sure who you are referring to when you say you don't find them terrifying. If its the vagrants, I don't either, just unpleasant to look at and its time to get rid of them.

First of all we should ban charities for the homeless and could withdraw all funding for this charity (BHT) and instead invest monies in introducing a new anti vagrant team, designed to seek out and repatriate the vagrants.

Probably only need a couple of people supported by local volunteers (I am in, are you?). Not hard to spot them and then just need a police van.

Process could be a simple as placing under arrest for one night, or until last permanent residence of 3 years or longer identified and then get them to do some work to earn the price of a train ticket and then repatriate under a shared order with the police to receive at the far end. Notify the benefits agency that benefits can only be claimed in that location for the next 6 months - job done!

Additionally introduce a 3 strikes and you get ten years in jail policy to ensure repeat offenders are dealt with fairly.

Thoughts welcomed

Can we round up students partying in homes keeping tax paying redidents awake first.
Scum are scum and just because you are here under the pretence of study does not exempt one from being categorised as scum.

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Can we round up students partying in homes keeping tax paying redidents awake first.
Scum are scum and just because you are here under the pretence of study does not exempt one from being categorised as scum.

Fully support that principle, having enjoyed several months of noise abuse myself.

What's really irritating is that these people know what they are doing and understand the impacts, however seemingly simply don't care.

I'd lock them up 10 to a cell for a couple of months when they first do it and see whether it does the trick.

HJarrs wrote:
Good to see from the above posts that the tradition of Christian charity lives on the the poorest in society.

If you want to put off people coming to B&H then lets make other areas more attractive not B&H worse!

The cuts so far are only the beginning. Tomorrows website will make interesting reading with £25million in cuts likely in the councul's budget. These cuts are happening all over the country and when combined with benefit cuts will see families, many hardworking who find themselves out of work, in desperate straits and homeless.

Tax cuts for the wealthy meanwhile. We are all in it together.

You clearly don't understand that 45% of income tax comes from 10% or less of the wealthiest earners. The 50p rate was raising little money, so pointless and disincentivising.

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
I personally don't find them terrifying. I find them sad. Terrifying is a council spending money on cycle lanes and unused electric car charging points while their leader tells us the council hasn't got any money.
Shocking, stupid, incredulous and irresponsible.
Go back to your home towns Greens and let the locals look after the town because we know what we need and want.

Maxwell, I think you are correct, but not sure who you are referring to when you say you don't find them terrifying. If its the vagrants, I don't either, just unpleasant to look at and its time to get rid of them.

First of all we should ban charities for the homeless and could withdraw all funding for this charity (BHT) and instead invest monies in introducing a new anti vagrant team, designed to seek out and repatriate the vagrants.

Probably only need a couple of people supported by local volunteers (I am in, are you?). Not hard to spot them and then just need a police van.

Process could be a simple as placing under arrest for one night, or until last permanent residence of 3 years or longer identified and then get them to do some work to earn the price of a train ticket and then repatriate under a shared order with the police to receive at the far end. Notify the benefits agency that benefits can only be claimed in that location for the next 6 months - job done!

Additionally introduce a 3 strikes and you get ten years in jail policy to ensure repeat offenders are dealt with fairly.

Thoughts welcomed

The comments on this forum are truly heartless, although fully expected-automatical
ly categorising any and all homeless as inferior, evil, a drain on society. Those that have no compassion for others, or anything outside their narrow minded and ignorant viewpoint.
So what if they are drunk or smell, no one is saying that’s good but does that mean they deserve to freeze to death? Try being kind just for once in your life, give and don’t expect to receive back, do a good deed for the sake of it.

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ng wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
I personally don't find them terrifying. I find them sad. Terrifying is a council spending money on cycle lanes and unused electric car charging points while their leader tells us the council hasn't got any money.
Shocking, stupid, incredulous and irresponsible.
Go back to your home towns Greens and let the locals look after the town because we know what we need and want.

Maxwell, I think you are correct, but not sure who you are referring to when you say you don't find them terrifying. If its the vagrants, I don't either, just unpleasant to look at and its time to get rid of them.

First of all we should ban charities for the homeless and could withdraw all funding for this charity (BHT) and instead invest monies in introducing a new anti vagrant team, designed to seek out and repatriate the vagrants.

Probably only need a couple of people supported by local volunteers (I am in, are you?). Not hard to spot them and then just need a police van.

Process could be a simple as placing under arrest for one night, or until last permanent residence of 3 years or longer identified and then get them to do some work to earn the price of a train ticket and then repatriate under a shared order with the police to receive at the far end. Notify the benefits agency that benefits can only be claimed in that location for the next 6 months - job done!

Additionally introduce a 3 strikes and you get ten years in jail policy to ensure repeat offenders are dealt with fairly.

Thoughts welcomed

The comments on this forum are truly heartless, although fully expected-automatical

ly categorising any and all homeless as inferior, evil, a drain on society. Those that have no compassion for others, or anything outside their narrow minded and ignorant viewpoint.
So what if they are drunk or smell, no one is saying that’s good but does that mean they deserve to freeze to death? Try being kind just for once in your life, give and don’t expect to receive back, do a good deed for the sake of it.

I do several times a year when huge tax deductions are made and I see nothing back from it.

Lets drive them off the streets once and for all.