From bad to worse: Council facing even tougher cuts (From The Argus)

fubsy wrote:
The greens are not and never will be capable of running a council. They are incompetent in the extreme and have myopic vision of what is and isn't important to the community. They are at best a pressure group, and do not possess the necessary skills to do the job for which they were misguidedly elected.

gusset snatcher wrote:
It's like he's just visited his Doctor and been told to stop smoking cannabis, then pacing about outside paranoid with bleary snake-like eyes, telling passers by that the Doctor will tell him to stop interfering with himself as well when he next sees him. I saw him on tv earlier talking about boundary changes in his ward, he needn't worry about that the pillock, if the Greens get in again after the next election I can see a mass exodus and there will only be deluded marxists, smash edo demonstrators, benefit scroungers and travellers left in Brighton

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Jason please stop spending money on vanity projects such as the Lewes road cycle lane and spend the money on front line services. I honestly don't know how anyone can live with their conscience knowing that they put such an unnecessary project before people.

rolivan wrote:
Hopefully this will put an end to the i360 loan or have they put themselves right in it?

Martha Gunn wrote:
Is there any legislative provision for the removal of an incompetent local authority? Would a mass public petition calling for an end to Green Party misrule be a way to start the ball rolling?

HJarrs wrote:
Usual suspects posting the usual rubbish. Of course non of you can post a condemnation of the government that is forcing the cuts upon B&H and the rest orf the country because I suspect a large number of you are conservative supporters (how embarrasing) who post nonsense. I had the opportunity to see a council in trouble in the 90's- tory run Brent - I can tell you I have seen no council like that since and certainly not B&H. What are you all going to do about government cuts? Nothing. What are the parties you support going to do? Nothing.

george smith wrote:

HJarrs wrote:
Usual suspects posting the usual rubbish. Of course non of you can post a condemnation of the government that is forcing the cuts upon B&H and the rest orf the country because I suspect a large number of you are conservative supporters (how embarrasing) who post nonsense. I had the opportunity to see a council in trouble in the 90's- tory run Brent - I can tell you I have seen no council like that since and certainly not B&H. What are you all going to do about government cuts? Nothing. What are the parties you support going to do? Nothing.

Hi
if you could just remove your head from up the green party backside for a second. How can you justify the amount of money this council spends on sheep and moving sheep. Let alone felling of trees in wild park. Did they make any money from the sale of timber or logs, if not what happened to it, a builders bag of logs is £50+ to buy? They felled hundreds of trees

inadaptado wrote:

Martha Gunn wrote:
Is there any legislative provision for the removal of an incompetent local authority? Would a mass public petition calling for an end to Green Party misrule be a way to start the ball rolling?

And who says it will actually achieve anything? I think you forget they actually won the election, they didn't get the council in a raffle. Some of their voters may have changed their minds since, but it is quite likely they still have plenty of support. Sure, it may not look like it here, but you can't honestly take the comments of a conservative newspaper as an accurate depiction of what the majority of residents think. It's called confirmation bias, dear.

You could always camp in front of the council until they left. Now, that would be ironic.

george smith wrote:

HJarrs wrote:
Usual suspects posting the usual rubbish. Of course non of you can post a condemnation of the government that is forcing the cuts upon B&H and the rest orf the country because I suspect a large number of you are conservative supporters (how embarrasing) who post nonsense. I had the opportunity to see a council in trouble in the 90's- tory run Brent - I can tell you I have seen no council like that since and certainly not B&H. What are you all going to do about government cuts? Nothing. What are the parties you support going to do? Nothing.

Hi
if you could just remove your head from up the green party backside for a second. How can you justify the amount of money this council spends on sheep and moving sheep. Let alone felling of trees in wild park. Did they make any money from the sale of timber or logs, if not what happened to it, a builders bag of logs is £50+ to buy? They felled hundreds of trees

Martha Gunn wrote:
Is there any legislative provision for the removal of an incompetent local authority? Would a mass public petition calling for an end to Green Party misrule be a way to start the ball rolling?

easyrider wrote:
Interesting to note that there is NOT ONE SINGLE COMMENT here (so far) in support of KitiKat and Co.

Proof that even his own cronies are too embarrassed to come out of the woodwork and pat the poor lad on the back.

Anyone who saw this prat on TV this morning would have wept with embarrassment.

On yer bike, Jase!

inadaptado wrote:

Martha Gunn wrote:
Is there any legislative provision for the removal of an incompetent local authority? Would a mass public petition calling for an end to Green Party misrule be a way to start the ball rolling?

And who says it will actually achieve anything? I think you forget they actually won the election, they didn't get the council in a raffle. Some of their voters may have changed their minds since, but it is quite likely they still have plenty of support. Sure, it may not look like it here, but you can't honestly take the comments of a conservative newspaper as an accurate depiction of what the majority of residents think. It's called confirmation bias, dear.

You could always camp in front of the council until they left. Now, that would be ironic.

Phani Tikkala wrote:
Millions and millions are going to be/have already been blown by the Greens on:

7 Dials "improvement" for cycles
Old Shoreham Road cycle lane
Lewes Road cycle lane
£2.2m on the Level "revamp"
A Brighton travel website
Free street wifi
£1.5m on solar panels for the Volks Railway
£250,000 on the Ann Street/Providence community garden
Half a million cleaning up after travellers
The i360...

Just to mention a few of the Green's spendthrift ego plans. Anyone see a pattern here?

That's a lot of money that could be spent on frontline services....

Priorities, priorities. This council has its priorities all wrong. Time to get rid of them before it's too late

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
The spending is that of a council in the wealthy Shires or Surrey not that of a city with vast areas of deprivation which relies upon the service trade and tourism for an income. That suggests the people running the city are completely out of touch with what local people want but if you look at the personal profiles of each Green almost all of them come from middle-class wealthy backgrounds who perhaps think they are in the Shires because they just don't understand the pulse of the city and its people.

Martha Gunn wrote:
Much as I sympathise with the general sentiments of the unattractively named "PorkBoat", the Boat must get a grip on the difference between capital and revenue spending.
The grotesquely mistaken and faddish decisions the Green Party makes about spending on big projects(capital) only magnifies and accentuates the amateurism with which it deals with the daily round of regular spending(revenue). So PB you mustn't mix them up but by all means continue to expose the idiocy of their separate works in both realms.
The Green Party on BHCC are on the financial highroad to hell. Their incompetence is breathtaking and unparalleled in the history of modern local government. Alas we can only watch them career on in their madness until the next opportunity arises to consign them to the dustbin of history. Let's all hope this comes sooner rather than later.

Ilyich wrote:
Last election has been called 'good one to lose' with the winners forced to spend 4 years destroying so many good things because of Conservative assault on councils and public service. Same in other places as here.
Other parties in Brighton just sit on hands hoping to watch Green fail and hoping there will still by local councils to run after Osborne and Cameron have ended assault.
Any party running town at moment would be in exact same position as Greens - worse maybe, as Greens are not really bad at running council.
From Conservatives, expect no more, but from Labour, nationally and locally to have no plan at all except for to support cons and cuts and death of accountable local govt, is terrible letdown and shaming

Tring wrote:
Many unintentionally hilarious comments above. I wonder how many of the right-wing toads promising to 'get rid' of an elected council actually voted Green in the first place? Cos you're going to have to get a few switchers to do that, dur, given that you forelock-tugging numbskulls voted Tory in the first place! Of course the Greens only got 33% of the vote, and shouldn't really get to be in power on their own on that, true enough. But this is on the first-past-the-post system that you Tories all love so much, so suck it up, suckers!

funkyyoyo wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Jason please stop spending money on vanity projects such as the Lewes road cycle lane and spend the money on front line services. I honestly don't know how anyone can live with their conscience knowing that they put such an unnecessary project before people.

lets not forget that old chestnut 'the cycle counter' dotted by the side of roads in this town,who cares how many cycles use the pavement/road,the cost of that could of rectified all the illegally marked parking bays/residents bays throughout the entire town!!! imagine a judge ordering the council to refund all parking tickets in above mentioned bays for the last 8years at least!!! sort it out kitkat u numpty,or take a break,permantley!!!!

fubsy wrote:
The greens are not and never will be capable of running a council. They are incompetent in the extreme and have myopic vision of what is and isn't important to the community.
They are at best a pressure group, and do not possess the necessary skills to do the job for which they were misguidedly elected.

Ilyich wrote:
Last election has been called 'good one to lose' with the winners forced to spend 4 years destroying so many good things because of Conservative assault on councils and public service. Same in other places as here.
Other parties in Brighton just sit on hands hoping to watch Green fail and hoping there will still by local councils to run after Osborne and Cameron have ended assault.
Any party running town at moment would be in exact same position as Greens - worse maybe, as Greens are not really bad at running council.
From Conservatives, expect no more, but from Labour, nationally and locally to have no plan at all except for to support cons and cuts and death of accountable local govt, is terrible letdown and shaming

funkyyoyo wrote:

Phani Tikkala wrote:
Millions and millions are going to be/have already been blown by the Greens on:

7 Dials "improvement" for cycles
Old Shoreham Road cycle lane
Lewes Road cycle lane
£2.2m on the Level "revamp"
A Brighton travel website
Free street wifi
£1.5m on solar panels for the Volks Railway
£250,000 on the Ann Street/Providence community garden
Half a million cleaning up after travellers
The i360...

Just to mention a few of the Green's spendthrift ego plans. Anyone see a pattern here?

That's a lot of money that could be spent on frontline services....

Priorities, priorities. This council has its priorities all wrong. Time to get rid of them before it's too late

time to take the parking division and those numpty wardens to court and get a judge to force the council to suspend all parking bays in town until they conform to current law..not to mention paying back all the illegally gained money by deception (torte of malsfeasance is growing here)

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
The spending is that of a council in the wealthy Shires or Surrey not that of a city with vast areas of deprivation which relies upon the service trade and tourism for an income.
That suggests the people running the city are completely out of touch with what local people want but if you look at the personal profiles of each Green almost all of them come from middle-class wealthy backgrounds who perhaps think they are in the Shires because they just don't understand the pulse of the city and its people.

george smith wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
The spending is that of a council in the wealthy Shires or Surrey not that of a city with vast areas of deprivation which relies upon the service trade and tourism for an income. That suggests the people running the city are completely out of touch with what local people want but if you look at the personal profiles of each Green almost all of them come from middle-class wealthy backgrounds who perhaps think they are in the Shires because they just don't understand the pulse of the city and its people.

mmm it has been said that Jas was educated at Worth, I wonder if he has kids and they go to a state primary in a deprived area?

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Oh no dave you are wrong....the Greens are very right wing.
They are Tories with eco tagged on the end of some very right wing policies which is why they are getting such a kick back now they are in power. They are all posh, middle class luvvies from out of town who have come into what is a working class city with low wages. They thought they could roll out a blanket set of so called palatable right wing policies which allow only the rich to drive in the city, park and buy homes, etc
If you have a 4x4 and a half million home in Preston Park you are catered for. Everyone else can go to hell.
The front line services of those who have to rely on State help are under fire which is why the unions are now stepping up action.
Beware of the Blues in Green clothing. This lot really are Tories, take a close look at their decisions and the way the party operates.

PJW Brighton wrote:
This is a news item about Central Government cuts in Local Government funding. We will see the same news from other Local Authorities in coming weeks. The Greens in last year's budget votes warned of more to come in future years. It amazes me that so many commentators here are trying to blame the Green local administration for Central Government decisions.

Phani Tikkala wrote:
Millions and millions are going to be/have already been blown by the Greens on:

7 Dials "improvement" for cycles
Old Shoreham Road cycle lane
Lewes Road cycle lane
£2.2m on the Level "revamp"
A Brighton travel website
Free street wifi
£1.5m on solar panels for the Volks Railway
£250,000 on the Ann Street/Providence community garden
Half a million cleaning up after travellers
The i360...

Just to mention a few of the Green's spendthrift ego plans. Anyone see a pattern here?

That's a lot of money that could be spent on frontline services....

Priorities, priorities. This council has its priorities all wrong. Time to get rid of them before it's too late

Tring wrote:
Many unintentionally hilarious comments above. I wonder how many of the right-wing toads promising to 'get rid' of an elected council actually voted Green in the first place? Cos you're going to have to get a few switchers to do that, dur, given that you forelock-tugging numbskulls voted Tory in the first place!

Of course the Greens only got 33% of the vote, and shouldn't really get to be in power on their own on that, true enough. But this is on the first-past-the-post system that you Tories all love so much, so suck it up, suckers!

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Jason please stop spending money on vanity projects such as the Lewes road cycle lane and spend the money on front line services. I honestly don't know how anyone can live with their conscience knowing that they put such an unnecessary project before people.

GovindaTim wrote:
And still no one can say why the parking bays are illegal. Let us know and we can all start not paying parking fees or fines. If not, then shut up about it.

Phani Tikkala wrote:
Millions and millions are going to be/have already been blown by the Greens on: 7 Dials "improvement" for cycles Old Shoreham Road cycle lane Lewes Road cycle lane £2.2m on the Level "revamp" A Brighton travel website Free street wifi £1.5m on solar panels for the Volks Railway £250,000 on the Ann Street/Providence community garden Half a million cleaning up after travellers The i360... Just to mention a few of the Green's spendthrift ego plans. Anyone see a pattern here? That's a lot of money that could be spent on frontline services.... Priorities, priorities. This council has its priorities all wrong. Time to get rid of them before it's too late

Lewesroadresident wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Jason please stop spending money on vanity projects such as the Lewes road cycle lane and spend the money on front line services. I honestly don't know how anyone can live with their conscience knowing that they put such an unnecessary project before people.

It's not being funded locally, the money has come from central grants and the EU I believe. Other than the fact that your entire statement is false, good post.

Lewesroadresident wrote:

Phani Tikkala wrote:
Millions and millions are going to be/have already been blown by the Greens on: 7 Dials "improvement" for cycles Old Shoreham Road cycle lane Lewes Road cycle lane £2.2m on the Level "revamp" A Brighton travel website Free street wifi £1.5m on solar panels for the Volks Railway £250,000 on the Ann Street/Providence community garden Half a million cleaning up after travellers The i360... Just to mention a few of the Green's spendthrift ego plans. Anyone see a pattern here? That's a lot of money that could be spent on frontline services.... Priorities, priorities. This council has its priorities all wrong. Time to get rid of them before it's too late

You, like most of the people posting here, are completely uninformed to the extent your opinion is pretty much invalid. I don't care who anybody votes for, but if you are going to attack a specific party, why don't you try using facts to do it? The Greens have been accused on this one post alone of being hard left marxists, and hard right tories in disguise.

Your list of 'spendthrift ego plans' is almost entirely not funded by local tax payers. Lewes road for example- grants from central government, supported by multiple local businesses.
The Level- a lottery grant. This money was not available for frontline services.
Seven Dials- an accident blackspot. Do you have any idea how expensive accidents are? The costs to Police, NHS, local authorities, businesses through lost time are huge.

I'm not an apologist for any party, but screaming and ranting about things that are totally made up or misunderstood makes you look deranged! You're in good company here though I suppose. 'Facts? What are they?'

cookie_brighton wrote:
Cut backs on bin collections.
The council, 4 months ago placed 4 communal black bins, 30 foot outside the small block of flats I live in, visible from my kitchen/lounge windows. (we do not use the said bins, we have our own).
These bins are constantly overflowing,people place beds,wardrobes,chair

s,settees, carpets, at least 20 black refuse bags and builders rubbish next to the bins when full (eyesore) I contacted the council, had a visit from the area manager, also contacted my M.P. who also visited me.
I was TOLD that the bins would be staying, the area manager and the M.P.said that it needs to be emptied more frequently. For 2 weeks this was put into operation, now it is back to as before, rubbish overflowing.........

.AND THE COUNCIL TALK ABOUT FURTHER CUTBACKS. we pay our council tax and the council are not providing a healthy service,I understand that the government have ceased the rise in council tax for next year, yet this council is informing us it will be going up by 3%
The proceedure of leaving rubbish in bins for several days is a health hazard, but who do I contact regarding this, yes you got it right.......the council.

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:

cookie_brighton wrote:
Cut backs on bin collections.
The council, 4 months ago placed 4 communal black bins, 30 foot outside the small block of flats I live in, visible from my kitchen/lounge windows. (we do not use the said bins, we have our own).
These bins are constantly overflowing,people place beds,wardrobes,chair


s,settees, carpets, at least 20 black refuse bags and builders rubbish next to the bins when full (eyesore) I contacted the council, had a visit from the area manager, also contacted my M.P. who also visited me.
I was TOLD that the bins would be staying, the area manager and the M.P.said that it needs to be emptied more frequently. For 2 weeks this was put into operation, now it is back to as before, rubbish overflowing.........


.AND THE COUNCIL TALK ABOUT FURTHER CUTBACKS. we pay our council tax and the council are not providing a healthy service,I understand that the government have ceased the rise in council tax for next year, yet this council is informing us it will be going up by 3%
The proceedure of leaving rubbish in bins for several days is a health hazard, but who do I contact regarding this, yes you got it right.......the council.

Greens are introducing once-a-month refuse collection from next year, according to Cllr. Ben Duncan...

Plantpot wrote:

funkyyoyo wrote:

Phani Tikkala wrote: Millions and millions are going to be/have already been blown by the Greens on: 7 Dials "improvement" for cycles Old Shoreham Road cycle lane Lewes Road cycle lane £2.2m on the Level "revamp" A Brighton travel website Free street wifi £1.5m on solar panels for the Volks Railway £250,000 on the Ann Street/Providence community garden Half a million cleaning up after travellers The i360... Just to mention a few of the Green's spendthrift ego plans. Anyone see a pattern here? That's a lot of money that could be spent on frontline services.... Priorities, priorities. This council has its priorities all wrong. Time to get rid of them before it's too late

time to take the parking division and those numpty wardens to court and get a judge to force the council to suspend all parking bays in town until they conform to current law..not to mention paying back all the illegally gained money by deception (torte of malsfeasance is growing here)

Your posts must be the most boring of all time. If parking markings are illegal, then let us know why. Or write about something else.

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Oh no dave you are wrong....the Greens are very right wing.
They are Tories with eco tagged on the end of some very right wing policies which is why they are getting such a kick back now they are in power. They are all posh, middle class luvvies from out of town who have come into what is a working class city with low wages. They thought they could roll out a blanket set of so called palatable right wing policies which allow only the rich to drive in the city, park and buy homes, etc
If you have a 4x4 and a half million home in Preston Park you are catered for. Everyone else can go to hell.
The front line services of those who have to rely on State help are under fire which is why the unions are now stepping up action.
Beware of the Blues in Green clothing. This lot really are Tories, take a close look at their decisions and the way the party operates.

ruberducker wrote:

funkyyoyo wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote: Jason please stop spending money on vanity projects such as the Lewes road cycle lane and spend the money on front line services. I honestly don't know how anyone can live with their conscience knowing that they put such an unnecessary project before people.

lets not forget that old chestnut 'the cycle counter' dotted by the side of roads in this town,who cares how many cycles use the pavement/road,the cost of that could of rectified all the illegally marked parking bays/residents bays throughout the entire town!!! imagine a judge ordering the council to refund all parking tickets in above mentioned bays for the last 8years at least!!! sort it out kitkat u numpty,or take a break,permantley!!!!

why are the parking bays illegal?

cookie_brighton wrote:
lewesroadresident. I read your post, re broken yellow lines and people parking on them......There was a guy who did exactly this, he received a parking ticket, he appealed and WON. He challenged it on the grounds that the yellow lines were not as STATED in the HIGHWAY CODE, continuos from one T bar to the other.

bevweav wrote:
before any one decides to give wise crack answers to my post, I do not work for the council, I used to a be a tenant representative, I care about where I live and my city. for the record, I have been banned for the last year from contacting council officers for asking too many questions and was once threatened by the council for asking questions they were going to take me to court, I was banned last year for 6 months from communicating with the council or officers for sending an email 18 months earlier which they referred to as unacceptable tone. Considering when the council banned me the person I sent it too had left the council and was working for the NHS. The person I sent it to did not complain at the time and after I sent it I apologised (it stated I do not feel well so please do not press my buttons and annoy me) The ban was then carried on again this year a couple of months ago, a letter came out the blue in July stating the ban stood for another 6 months, as the council forget to review it earlier in February, although I had kept to the ban, in May thinking it was lifted I contacted a council officer. Still the way this council is going there wont be any officers to contact. there all fighting for there jobs?

funkyyoyo wrote:

bevweav wrote: before any one decides to give wise crack answers to my post, I do not work for the council, I used to a be a tenant representative, I care about where I live and my city. for the record, I have been banned for the last year from contacting council officers for asking too many questions and was once threatened by the council for asking questions they were going to take me to court, I was banned last year for 6 months from communicating with the council or officers for sending an email 18 months earlier which they referred to as unacceptable tone. Considering when the council banned me the person I sent it too had left the council and was working for the NHS. The person I sent it to did not complain at the time and after I sent it I apologised (it stated I do not feel well so please do not press my buttons and annoy me) The ban was then carried on again this year a couple of months ago, a letter came out the blue in July stating the ban stood for another 6 months, as the council forget to review it earlier in February, although I had kept to the ban, in May thinking it was lifted I contacted a council officer. Still the way this council is going there wont be any officers to contact. there all fighting for there jobs?

what a load of rubbish,seek judicial review in the courts and mention the council have a duty to its residents,banning you possibly is breeching human rights,considering we live in a democratic society (thats a joke in itself)

Fairfax Sakes wrote:
What are all you lot on about? This is not a local government issue, it is a national and global one. Fiscal policies combined with the flows on international capital markets are beyond the influence of this city, despite what you may be told.
I’m sick and tired of the nominally right wing, pig ignorant, parrot-like comments on this website, generally seeking a simple scapegoat to vent the frustrations of their failed and petty lives. Get an education, broaden your horizons and take responsibility. Maybe that way you’d have a molecule of legitimacy to the incessant and incoherent drivel spewing forth on these comment pages.

saraman wrote:
Get rid of benefit scroungers. Then there will be plenty of money for essential sevices and a reduction in our council taxes.

PJW Brighton wrote:
This is a news item about Central Government cuts in Local Government funding. We will see the same news from other Local Authorities in coming weeks. The Greens in last year's budget votes warned of more to come in future years. It amazes me that so many commentators here are trying to blame the Green local administration for Central Government decisions.

Lewesroadresident wrote:

Phani Tikkala wrote:
Millions and millions are going to be/have already been blown by the Greens on: 7 Dials "improvement" for cycles Old Shoreham Road cycle lane Lewes Road cycle lane £2.2m on the Level "revamp" A Brighton travel website Free street wifi £1.5m on solar panels for the Volks Railway £250,000 on the Ann Street/Providence community garden Half a million cleaning up after travellers The i360... Just to mention a few of the Green's spendthrift ego plans. Anyone see a pattern here? That's a lot of money that could be spent on frontline services.... Priorities, priorities. This council has its priorities all wrong. Time to get rid of them before it's too late

You, like most of the people posting here, are completely uninformed to the extent your opinion is pretty much invalid. I don't care who anybody votes for, but if you are going to attack a specific party, why don't you try using facts to do it? The Greens have been accused on this one post alone of being hard left marxists, and hard right tories in disguise.

Your list of 'spendthrift ego plans' is almost entirely not funded by local tax payers. Lewes road for example- grants from central government, supported by multiple local businesses.
The Level- a lottery grant. This money was not available for frontline services.
Seven Dials- an accident blackspot. Do you have any idea how expensive accidents are? The costs to Police, NHS, local authorities, businesses through lost time are huge.

I'm not an apologist for any party, but screaming and ranting about things that are totally made up or misunderstood makes you look deranged! You're in good company here though I suppose. 'Facts? What are they?'

Phani Tikkala wrote:

Lewesroadresident wrote:

Phani Tikkala wrote:
Millions and millions are going to be/have already been blown by the Greens on: 7 Dials "improvement" for cycles Old Shoreham Road cycle lane Lewes Road cycle lane £2.2m on the Level "revamp" A Brighton travel website Free street wifi £1.5m on solar panels for the Volks Railway £250,000 on the Ann Street/Providence community garden Half a million cleaning up after travellers The i360... Just to mention a few of the Green's spendthrift ego plans. Anyone see a pattern here? That's a lot of money that could be spent on frontline services.... Priorities, priorities. This council has its priorities all wrong. Time to get rid of them before it's too late

You, like most of the people posting here, are completely uninformed to the extent your opinion is pretty much invalid. I don't care who anybody votes for, but if you are going to attack a specific party, why don't you try using facts to do it? The Greens have been accused on this one post alone of being hard left marxists, and hard right tories in disguise.

Your list of 'spendthrift ego plans' is almost entirely not funded by local tax payers. Lewes road for example- grants from central government, supported by multiple local businesses.
The Level- a lottery grant. This money was not available for frontline services.
Seven Dials- an accident blackspot. Do you have any idea how expensive accidents are? The costs to Police, NHS, local authorities, businesses through lost time are huge.

I'm not an apologist for any party, but screaming and ranting about things that are totally made up or misunderstood makes you look deranged! You're in good company here though I suppose. 'Facts? What are they?'

Oooh my opinion is "invalid" and you accuse me of being deranged? Sounds like you should do well in the Greens!

You can try and spin it that the list is "almost entirely not funded by local tax payers" but quite a chunk of money IS coming from the council according to their own papers.

You say The Level is funded by Lottery Grant. Well that's partly true. except in the Council's own words "This will be match funded by a combination of S106 developer’s contributions and council budget." They've also put another £53,000 of Council money in for a skate park, but still need more funding, and the Council still hasn't found funding for all the paths round the outside and "artwork".

As for Lewes Road, the Council's own documents show that £475k of Council funds was earmarked from LTP3 (an amazing read, by the way).

And yes I do appreciate how expensive accidents are. But there are other ways to make the Dials safer than what is proposed. And do you have any idea of the cost to business from customers and employees stuck in traffic jams, or the cost to small businesses whose customers have deserted them because of high parking charges etc. etc. ad nauseam?

Fight_Back wrote:
I work in the private sector and we've had four years of pay cuts and compulsory redundancies. Why do the unions think council sector workers should be exempt from the pain of compulsory redundancy ? Are we not all in this together or do public sector workers deserve better protection that private sector workers ?

I see Kitcat isn't so keen on above 2% council tax increases now - I wonder why ? Maybe because he knows his pathetic party would get slaughtered at the referendum polls ( which they will at the next local elections anyway ).

bevweav wrote:
before any one decides to give wise crack answers to my post, I do not work for the council, I used to a be a tenant representative,
I care about where I live and my city.

for the record, I have been banned for the last year from contacting council officers for asking too many questions and was once threatened by the council for asking questions they were going to take me to court,

I was banned last year for 6 months from communicating with the council or officers for sending an email 18 months earlier which they referred to as unacceptable tone.
Considering when the council banned me the person I sent it too had left the council and was working for the NHS.
The person I sent it to did not complain at the time and after I sent it I apologised (it stated I do not feel well so please do not press my buttons and annoy me)

The ban was then carried on again this year a couple of months ago, a letter came out the blue in July stating the ban stood for another 6 months, as the council forget to review it earlier in February, although I had kept to the ban, in May thinking it was lifted I contacted a council officer.
Still the way this council is going there wont be any officers to contact. there all fighting for there jobs?

Cash Bull wrote:

bevweav wrote:
before any one decides to give wise crack answers to my post, I do not work for the council, I used to a be a tenant representative,
I care about where I live and my city.

for the record, I have been banned for the last year from contacting council officers for asking too many questions and was once threatened by the council for asking questions they were going to take me to court,

I was banned last year for 6 months from communicating with the council or officers for sending an email 18 months earlier which they referred to as unacceptable tone.
Considering when the council banned me the person I sent it too had left the council and was working for the NHS.
The person I sent it to did not complain at the time and after I sent it I apologised (it stated I do not feel well so please do not press my buttons and annoy me)

The ban was then carried on again this year a couple of months ago, a letter came out the blue in July stating the ban stood for another 6 months, as the council forget to review it earlier in February, although I had kept to the ban, in May thinking it was lifted I contacted a council officer.
Still the way this council is going there wont be any officers to contact. there all fighting for there jobs?

You sound demented

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
JHarrs came from London and moved into Hanover had a kiddy and then started bleating about how local people should live while actually being part of the cause of the towns problems with rocketing house prices, too many children for the schools to cope with and like his Green cronies he thinks its ok to ignore front line services to drive through an Eco ideology because they have a dream that Brighton and Hove is like York or Bath. The city had one of the South Easts biggest areas of recognised government deprivation in East Brighton with other areas of the city sitting just below those levels of deprivation and you bang on about solar panels and cycle lanes. You are so out of touch with local people and real Brighton you can't even begin to understand the issues. Please move to Dulwich it's more your scene.

Phani Tikkala wrote:

Lewesroadresident wrote:

Phani Tikkala wrote: Millions and millions are going to be/have already been blown by the Greens on: 7 Dials "improvement" for cycles Old Shoreham Road cycle lane Lewes Road cycle lane £2.2m on the Level "revamp" A Brighton travel website Free street wifi £1.5m on solar panels for the Volks Railway £250,000 on the Ann Street/Providence community garden Half a million cleaning up after travellers The i360... Just to mention a few of the Green's spendthrift ego plans. Anyone see a pattern here? That's a lot of money that could be spent on frontline services.... Priorities, priorities. This council has its priorities all wrong. Time to get rid of them before it's too late

You, like most of the people posting here, are completely uninformed to the extent your opinion is pretty much invalid. I don't care who anybody votes for, but if you are going to attack a specific party, why don't you try using facts to do it? The Greens have been accused on this one post alone of being hard left marxists, and hard right tories in disguise. Your list of 'spendthrift ego plans' is almost entirely not funded by local tax payers. Lewes road for example- grants from central government, supported by multiple local businesses. The Level- a lottery grant. This money was not available for frontline services. Seven Dials- an accident blackspot. Do you have any idea how expensive accidents are? The costs to Police, NHS, local authorities, businesses through lost time are huge. I'm not an apologist for any party, but screaming and ranting about things that are totally made up or misunderstood makes you look deranged! You're in good company here though I suppose. 'Facts? What are they?'

Oooh my opinion is "invalid" and you accuse me of being deranged? Sounds like you should do well in the Greens! You can try and spin it that the list is "almost entirely not funded by local tax payers" but quite a chunk of money IS coming from the council according to their own papers. You say The Level is funded by Lottery Grant. Well that's partly true. except in the Council's own words "This will be match funded by a combination of S106 developer’s contributions and council budget." They've also put another £53,000 of Council money in for a skate park, but still need more funding, and the Council still hasn't found funding for all the paths round the outside and "artwork". As for Lewes Road, the Council's own documents show that £475k of Council funds was earmarked from LTP3 (an amazing read, by the way). And yes I do appreciate how expensive accidents are. But there are other ways to make the Dials safer than what is proposed. And do you have any idea of the cost to business from customers and employees stuck in traffic jams, or the cost to small businesses whose customers have deserted them because of high parking charges etc. etc. ad nauseam?

Lewesroadresident wrote:

Phani Tikkala wrote:

Lewesroadresident wrote:

Phani Tikkala wrote: Millions and millions are going to be/have already been blown by the Greens on: 7 Dials "improvement" for cycles Old Shoreham Road cycle lane Lewes Road cycle lane £2.2m on the Level "revamp" A Brighton travel website Free street wifi £1.5m on solar panels for the Volks Railway £250,000 on the Ann Street/Providence community garden Half a million cleaning up after travellers The i360... Just to mention a few of the Green's spendthrift ego plans. Anyone see a pattern here? That's a lot of money that could be spent on frontline services.... Priorities, priorities. This council has its priorities all wrong. Time to get rid of them before it's too late

You, like most of the people posting here, are completely uninformed to the extent your opinion is pretty much invalid. I don't care who anybody votes for, but if you are going to attack a specific party, why don't you try using facts to do it? The Greens have been accused on this one post alone of being hard left marxists, and hard right tories in disguise. Your list of 'spendthrift ego plans' is almost entirely not funded by local tax payers. Lewes road for example- grants from central government, supported by multiple local businesses. The Level- a lottery grant. This money was not available for frontline services. Seven Dials- an accident blackspot. Do you have any idea how expensive accidents are? The costs to Police, NHS, local authorities, businesses through lost time are huge. I'm not an apologist for any party, but screaming and ranting about things that are totally made up or misunderstood makes you look deranged! You're in good company here though I suppose. 'Facts? What are they?'

Oooh my opinion is "invalid" and you accuse me of being deranged? Sounds like you should do well in the Greens! You can try and spin it that the list is "almost entirely not funded by local tax payers" but quite a chunk of money IS coming from the council according to their own papers. You say The Level is funded by Lottery Grant. Well that's partly true. except in the Council's own words "This will be match funded by a combination of S106 developer’s contributions and council budget." They've also put another £53,000 of Council money in for a skate park, but still need more funding, and the Council still hasn't found funding for all the paths round the outside and "artwork". As for Lewes Road, the Council's own documents show that £475k of Council funds was earmarked from LTP3 (an amazing read, by the way). And yes I do appreciate how expensive accidents are. But there are other ways to make the Dials safer than what is proposed. And do you have any idea of the cost to business from customers and employees stuck in traffic jams, or the cost to small businesses whose customers have deserted them because of high parking charges etc. etc. ad nauseam?

You know quite well what I mean- an opinion based on false or made up information is not worth having or stating.

You stated that millions of pounds were being blown by the greens. I called you on this, and your reply admits that you were talking rubbish!

Highest figure involved based on your info? Less than £1 million from council coffers. Less than £1 million of local money to achieve spending in the region of closer to £10 million.

£53k for a skatepark that will be used just as heavily as the old one? Sounds like a bargain to keep thousands of kids occupied and out of trouble.

I'm not commenting on whether the greens are right in their plans for Seven Dials, and yes I am aware of the cost to the economy of traffic delays. I'm pointing out that you, like many many other posters on this site, make up facts to suit their purposes, which depresses the level of debate to a ranting match. Why didn't you use the real figures the first time round? I can only conclude it was because you're not interested in actual debate, just vitriol.

GovindaTim wrote:
And still no one can say why the parking bays are illegal. Let us know and we can all start not paying parking fees or fines. If not, then shut up about it.