Parking policy drives bikers away from Brighton and Hove

Stephan Heenan and his Harley

Stephan Heenan and his Harley

First published in News

A biker has accused a council’s parking policy of driving petrolhead Harley Davidson riders away.

Stephan Heenan, 58, has had numerous run-ins over the past few years with traffic wardens because his Harley Davidson doesn’t fit in the bike parking bays.

However, Brighton and Hove City Council does not allow bikes in car spaces and Mr Heenan has been issued a ticket for parking his Harley in space intended for a car.

He said: “It’s ridiculous. I’ve done a fair bit of travelling on my bike and I’ve got friends all over the country and no other council I’ve come across stop bikers parking in car spaces.

“We have nowhere to go. They’re shooting themselves in the foot because a lot of bikers from around Europe come to Brighton in the summer and if they can’t park then they will go elsewhere.”

The parking restrictions led Mr Heenan to move out of the city to the Marina where he had an allocated off-road parking space.

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However, after losing his job he moved in with a friend in South Chailey.

He said: “I still like to go to Brighton to see friends and do shopping but it is near impossible to go on the bike.

“When I want to go to the butchers in London Road, instead of a ten minute ride I have to catch two buses each way at a cost of £8. A round trip will take me three to four hours. It will stop people going into Brighton. The city is also a popular destination and I think it is particularly damaging for tourism.

“In summer you will see Germans on their Goldwings riding round and round looking for somewhere to park. In the end they will stop coming.”

A council spokeswoman said that they provide dedicated motorcycle bays in an attempt to minimise damage to the vehicles.

She added: “Brighton & Hove has a track record of welcoming motorcyclists to the city, hosting regular annual events such as the Pioneer Motorcycle Run, the Ace Café Reunion and Brightona.

“Motorcycle parking provision throughout the city has been steadily increasing over the years, and whenever we implement new controlled parking zones motorcycle bays are proposed in the majority of roads.”

However, she added that motorcycle parking would be reviewed as part of the Citywide Parking Review next year.

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1:58pm Thu 1 Nov 12

gusset snatcher says...

I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks
I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks gusset snatcher
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1:59pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Slightly inaccurate, the council is actuall driving all forms of transport out except the 150 cyclists in town (I am one of them) and the monopoly private, profit making bus company owned by private shareholders.
Therefore, soon residentswill only have one option and that is to use the monopoly bus service which is also being granted huge parts of raods which are actually State owned.
It's similar to the great Tory sell-off of nationalised industries and council homes.
The Greens are right wing.
Slightly inaccurate, the council is actuall driving all forms of transport out except the 150 cyclists in town (I am one of them) and the monopoly private, profit making bus company owned by private shareholders. Therefore, soon residentswill only have one option and that is to use the monopoly bus service which is also being granted huge parts of raods which are actually State owned. It's similar to the great Tory sell-off of nationalised industries and council homes. The Greens are right wing. Maxwell's Ghost
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2:23pm Thu 1 Nov 12

juleshove says...

Good news if true, who wants those noisy motorbikes here !
Good news if true, who wants those noisy motorbikes here ! juleshove
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2:41pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Crystal Ball says...

gusset snatcher wrote:
I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks
That behaviour is not conducive to a true "biker". That said, Harleys are for poseurs and people who know little about actual motorcycles.
[quote][p][bold]gusset snatcher[/bold] wrote: I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks[/p][/quote]That behaviour is not conducive to a true "biker". That said, Harleys are for poseurs and people who know little about actual motorcycles. Crystal Ball
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5:04pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Steve Heenan says...

gusset snatcher you poor sad individual, you are reffering to racing bikes who I quite agree SOME are idiots.
Crystal Ball I've been riding bikes since I was 16. I suggest both of you go to the Caroline of Brunswick pub on a Thursday evening or 6 Bells at Chidingly on a Sunday and voice your opinions about Harley riders, but I'm sure you won't as you're obviously both cowards coz you use fake names.
gusset snatcher you poor sad individual, you are reffering to racing bikes who I quite agree SOME are idiots. Crystal Ball I've been riding bikes since I was 16. I suggest both of you go to the Caroline of Brunswick pub on a Thursday evening or 6 Bells at Chidingly on a Sunday and voice your opinions about Harley riders, but I'm sure you won't as you're obviously both cowards coz you use fake names. Steve Heenan
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5:43pm Thu 1 Nov 12

BrightonHoveboy says...

juleshove wrote:
Good news if true, who wants those noisy motorbikes here !
well, personally, I would think the small businesses of the area are gratefil for the bikers, to say nothing of The Sussex Heart Charity who are the beneficiaries of Brightona(Brightona Charity Riders), who, through BIKERS have raised almost £200,000 at their events over the last nine years.
So, juleshove, do you know anyone who has had heart trauma? No? Yes? WEll, thats BIKERS for you, always digging in their pockets for others.
So, to answer your question, I WANT MOTORBIKES HERE
[quote][p][bold]juleshove[/bold] wrote: Good news if true, who wants those noisy motorbikes here ![/p][/quote]well, personally, I would think the small businesses of the area are gratefil for the bikers, to say nothing of The Sussex Heart Charity who are the beneficiaries of Brightona(Brightona Charity Riders), who, through BIKERS have raised almost £200,000 at their events over the last nine years. So, juleshove, do you know anyone who has had heart trauma? No? Yes? WEll, thats BIKERS for you, always digging in their pockets for others. So, to answer your question, I WANT MOTORBIKES HERE BrightonHoveboy
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7:23pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Lex-Angel says...

I don't ride a Harley, and my bike is not as big as the one featured, but I too cannot park in the small bays, unless I do it diagonally and take up two or three spaces. I've ridden bikes and scooters for 25 years and watched the bays disappear while the number of two wheeled vehicles rises. How about removing a few car parking spaces, putting in bays and encouraging people to use smaller, more economical, less polluting vehicles?
I don't ride a Harley, and my bike is not as big as the one featured, but I too cannot park in the small bays, unless I do it diagonally and take up two or three spaces. I've ridden bikes and scooters for 25 years and watched the bays disappear while the number of two wheeled vehicles rises. How about removing a few car parking spaces, putting in bays and encouraging people to use smaller, more economical, less polluting vehicles? Lex-Angel
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7:31pm Thu 1 Nov 12

birthofanorange says...

'tis the lizard people deliberately making the bays too small that appears to drive Mr.Heenan crazy. That and living in the wilderness that is Chailey, of course.
'tis the lizard people deliberately making the bays too small that appears to drive Mr.Heenan crazy. That and living in the wilderness that is Chailey, of course. birthofanorange
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10:37pm Thu 1 Nov 12

GixerNick says...

gusset snatcher wrote:
I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks
Maybe I went past you on the A259 tonight - will make sure that I give the bike an extra rev tomorrow - just for you x
[quote][p][bold]gusset snatcher[/bold] wrote: I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks[/p][/quote]Maybe I went past you on the A259 tonight - will make sure that I give the bike an extra rev tomorrow - just for you x GixerNick
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10:41pm Thu 1 Nov 12

lorrie1 says...

Brighton and Hove council wont be happy until there are NO cars or motorbikes allowed in the city.
I do though agree that these bikes make FAR to much noise. If my car was that loud id be getting pulled over every five mins.
Brighton and Hove council wont be happy until there are NO cars or motorbikes allowed in the city. I do though agree that these bikes make FAR to much noise. If my car was that loud id be getting pulled over every five mins. lorrie1
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12:32am Fri 2 Nov 12

funkyyoyo says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Slightly inaccurate, the council is actuall driving all forms of transport out except the 150 cyclists in town (I am one of them) and the monopoly private, profit making bus company owned by private shareholders. Therefore, soon residentswill only have one option and that is to use the monopoly bus service which is also being granted huge parts of raods which are actually State owned. It's similar to the great Tory sell-off of nationalised industries and council homes. The Greens are right wing.
the greens are a waste of tax payers money too!!
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Slightly inaccurate, the council is actuall driving all forms of transport out except the 150 cyclists in town (I am one of them) and the monopoly private, profit making bus company owned by private shareholders. Therefore, soon residentswill only have one option and that is to use the monopoly bus service which is also being granted huge parts of raods which are actually State owned. It's similar to the great Tory sell-off of nationalised industries and council homes. The Greens are right wing.[/p][/quote]the greens are a waste of tax payers money too!! funkyyoyo
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9:32am Fri 2 Nov 12

nocando says...

lorrie1 wrote:
Brighton and Hove council wont be happy until there are NO cars or motorbikes allowed in the city.
I do though agree that these bikes make FAR to much noise. If my car was that loud id be getting pulled over every five mins.
loud pipes save lives. Motorists and pedestrians don't look out for bikes and accidents happen. If they can't see us then we help them out by making sure they can hear us.
If your car was as noisy as my bike then you'd probably have a hole in your exhaust and should consider replacing it at the earliest opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]lorrie1[/bold] wrote: Brighton and Hove council wont be happy until there are NO cars or motorbikes allowed in the city. I do though agree that these bikes make FAR to much noise. If my car was that loud id be getting pulled over every five mins.[/p][/quote]loud pipes save lives. Motorists and pedestrians don't look out for bikes and accidents happen. If they can't see us then we help them out by making sure they can hear us. If your car was as noisy as my bike then you'd probably have a hole in your exhaust and should consider replacing it at the earliest opportunity. nocando
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10:38am Fri 2 Nov 12

_Mitch_ says...

gusset snatcher wrote:
I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks
The only reason why some of us use full beam when filtering (or rev the engines) is because most people in cars have no clue what the drivers' side mirror is for – the amount I see that are folded up while the car is being driven is astonishing – It is so we can be seen and heard.

I've lost count of the amount of times I've seen cars pulling across in front of me – while filtering – without looking.

That's why I always ride a bike with twin (bright) headlights. Much better than so-called hi-viz, which isn't.

If car drivers learned to use the wing mirrors instead of just their rear view, we wouldn't have the problem.

Better still, motorcyclists are taught to use a 'lifesaver' check over their right shoulder before overtaking – may
be car drivers ought to try it... might save a few lives.
[quote][p][bold]gusset snatcher[/bold] wrote: I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks[/p][/quote]The only reason why some of us use full beam when filtering (or rev the engines) is because most people in cars have no clue what the drivers' side mirror is for – the amount I see that are folded up while the car is being driven is astonishing – It is so we can be seen and heard. I've lost count of the amount of times I've seen cars pulling across in front of me – while filtering – without looking. That's why I always ride a bike with twin (bright) headlights. Much better than so-called hi-viz, which isn't. If car drivers learned to use the wing mirrors instead of just their rear view, we wouldn't have the problem. Better still, motorcyclists are taught to use a 'lifesaver' check over their right shoulder before overtaking – may be car drivers ought to try it... might save a few lives. _Mitch_
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10:42am Fri 2 Nov 12

_Mitch_ says...

One thing I would like to see is car drivers who park in bike bays – like a certain '59' plate Black Audi that was spotted in Brighton this morning – be prosecuted the same way (if the wardens want his number, we have photographic evidence). Traffic Wardens seem to turn a blind eye to this.
One thing I would like to see is car drivers who park in bike bays – like a certain '59' plate Black Audi that was spotted in Brighton this morning – be prosecuted the same way (if the wardens want his number, we have photographic evidence). Traffic Wardens seem to turn a blind eye to this. _Mitch_
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11:26am Fri 2 Nov 12

Btnbiker says...

All new bikes come with fixed headlamps on as will new cars in the future.where are the new parking bays? The one that was opposite the Theatre Royal was never replaced. Bays have been made smaller by the introduction of large street bins. Cars who badly park and take up half a bike space are never ticketed.
All new bikes come with fixed headlamps on as will new cars in the future.where are the new parking bays? The one that was opposite the Theatre Royal was never replaced. Bays have been made smaller by the introduction of large street bins. Cars who badly park and take up half a bike space are never ticketed. Btnbiker
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11:27am Fri 2 Nov 12

Crystal Ball says...

Steve Heenan wrote:
gusset snatcher you poor sad individual, you are reffering to racing bikes who I quite agree SOME are idiots.
Crystal Ball I've been riding bikes since I was 16. I suggest both of you go to the Caroline of Brunswick pub on a Thursday evening or 6 Bells at Chidingly on a Sunday and voice your opinions about Harley riders, but I'm sure you won't as you're obviously both cowards coz you use fake names.
What an amazing assessment made via the medium of an online public forum. Tool.
[quote][p][bold]Steve Heenan[/bold] wrote: gusset snatcher you poor sad individual, you are reffering to racing bikes who I quite agree SOME are idiots. Crystal Ball I've been riding bikes since I was 16. I suggest both of you go to the Caroline of Brunswick pub on a Thursday evening or 6 Bells at Chidingly on a Sunday and voice your opinions about Harley riders, but I'm sure you won't as you're obviously both cowards coz you use fake names.[/p][/quote]What an amazing assessment made via the medium of an online public forum. Tool. Crystal Ball
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11:34am Fri 2 Nov 12

Martha Gunn says...

My goodness! I am in clear and present danger of actually agreeing with something this loony Green Party is doing. Whatever next?
My goodness! I am in clear and present danger of actually agreeing with something this loony Green Party is doing. Whatever next? Martha Gunn
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1:20pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Number Six says...

_Mitch_ wrote:
gusset snatcher wrote:
I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks
The only reason why some of us use full beam when filtering (or rev the engines) is because most people in cars have no clue what the drivers' side mirror is for – the amount I see that are folded up while the car is being driven is astonishing – It is so we can be seen and heard.

I've lost count of the amount of times I've seen cars pulling across in front of me – while filtering – without looking.

That's why I always ride a bike with twin (bright) headlights. Much better than so-called hi-viz, which isn't.

If car drivers learned to use the wing mirrors instead of just their rear view, we wouldn't have the problem.

Better still, motorcyclists are taught to use a 'lifesaver' check over their right shoulder before overtaking –&
nbsp;may
be car drivers ought to try it... might save a few lives.
My first cars didn't actually have wing mirrors. They were an accessory I fitted myself. Mind you, I don't remember bikes passing on the inside.
I'm not sure that side mirrors are compulsory and they might be folded in because we don't want a motor bike flashing past and whacking them. Just a thought!

Speaking personally, I'm usually a bit busy looking where I'm actually going
[quote][p][bold]_Mitch_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gusset snatcher[/bold] wrote: I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks[/p][/quote]The only reason why some of us use full beam when filtering (or rev the engines) is because most people in cars have no clue what the drivers' side mirror is for – the amount I see that are folded up while the car is being driven is astonishing – It is so we can be seen and heard. I've lost count of the amount of times I've seen cars pulling across in front of me – while filtering – without looking. That's why I always ride a bike with twin (bright) headlights. Much better than so-called hi-viz, which isn't. If car drivers learned to use the wing mirrors instead of just their rear view, we wouldn't have the problem. Better still, motorcyclists are taught to use a 'lifesaver' check over their right shoulder before overtaking –& nbsp;may be car drivers ought to try it... might save a few lives.[/p][/quote]My first cars didn't actually have wing mirrors. They were an accessory I fitted myself. Mind you, I don't remember bikes passing on the inside. I'm not sure that side mirrors are compulsory and they might be folded in because we don't want a motor bike flashing past and whacking them. Just a thought! Speaking personally, I'm usually a bit busy looking where I'm actually going Number Six
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1:39pm Fri 2 Nov 12

_Mitch_ says...

Number Six wrote:
_Mitch_ wrote:
gusset snatcher wrote:
I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks
The only reason why some of us use full beam when filtering (or rev the engines) is because most people in cars have no clue what the drivers' side mirror is for – the amount I see that are folded up while the car is being driven is astonishing – It is so we can be seen and heard.

I've lost count of the amount of times I've seen cars pulling across in front of me – while filtering – without looking.

That's why I always ride a bike with twin (bright) headlights. Much better than so-called hi-viz, which isn't.

If car drivers learned to use the wing mirrors instead of just their rear view, we wouldn't have the problem.

Better still, motorcyclists are taught to use a 'lifesaver' check over their right shoulder before overtaking –&
amp;
nbsp;may
be car drivers ought to try it... might save a few lives.
My first cars didn't actually have wing mirrors. They were an accessory I fitted myself. Mind you, I don't remember bikes passing on the inside.
I'm not sure that side mirrors are compulsory and they might be folded in because we don't want a motor bike flashing past and whacking them. Just a thought!

Speaking personally, I'm usually a bit busy looking where I'm actually going
So does that mean you don't check to see anything's coming alongside you when you're driving down the road before you overtake?

Who said anything about bikes passing on the inside? Maybe when the bus lanes are open to bikes...
[quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]_Mitch_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gusset snatcher[/bold] wrote: I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks[/p][/quote]The only reason why some of us use full beam when filtering (or rev the engines) is because most people in cars have no clue what the drivers' side mirror is for – the amount I see that are folded up while the car is being driven is astonishing – It is so we can be seen and heard. I've lost count of the amount of times I've seen cars pulling across in front of me – while filtering – without looking. That's why I always ride a bike with twin (bright) headlights. Much better than so-called hi-viz, which isn't. If car drivers learned to use the wing mirrors instead of just their rear view, we wouldn't have the problem. Better still, motorcyclists are taught to use a 'lifesaver' check over their right shoulder before overtaking –& amp; nbsp;may be car drivers ought to try it... might save a few lives.[/p][/quote]My first cars didn't actually have wing mirrors. They were an accessory I fitted myself. Mind you, I don't remember bikes passing on the inside. I'm not sure that side mirrors are compulsory and they might be folded in because we don't want a motor bike flashing past and whacking them. Just a thought! Speaking personally, I'm usually a bit busy looking where I'm actually going[/p][/quote]So does that mean you don't check to see anything's coming alongside you when you're driving down the road before you overtake? Who said anything about bikes passing on the inside? Maybe when the bus lanes are open to bikes... _Mitch_
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5:13pm Fri 2 Nov 12

nocando says...

Number Six wrote:
_Mitch_ wrote:
gusset snatcher wrote:
I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks
The only reason why some of us use full beam when filtering (or rev the engines) is because most people in cars have no clue what the drivers' side mirror is for – the amount I see that are folded up while the car is being driven is astonishing – It is so we can be seen and heard.

I've lost count of the amount of times I've seen cars pulling across in front of me – while filtering – without looking.

That's why I always ride a bike with twin (bright) headlights. Much better than so-called hi-viz, which isn't.

If car drivers learned to use the wing mirrors instead of just their rear view, we wouldn't have the problem.

Better still, motorcyclists are taught to use a 'lifesaver' check over their right shoulder before overtaking –&
amp;
nbsp;may
be car drivers ought to try it... might save a few lives.
My first cars didn't actually have wing mirrors. They were an accessory I fitted myself. Mind you, I don't remember bikes passing on the inside.
I'm not sure that side mirrors are compulsory and they might be folded in because we don't want a motor bike flashing past and whacking them. Just a thought!

Speaking personally, I'm usually a bit busy looking where I'm actually going
Well, if you're too busy looking in front of you to bother checking your mirrors then you shouldn't really be in charge of a car. You're an idiot and an accident waiting to happen.
[quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]_Mitch_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gusset snatcher[/bold] wrote: I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks[/p][/quote]The only reason why some of us use full beam when filtering (or rev the engines) is because most people in cars have no clue what the drivers' side mirror is for – the amount I see that are folded up while the car is being driven is astonishing – It is so we can be seen and heard. I've lost count of the amount of times I've seen cars pulling across in front of me – while filtering – without looking. That's why I always ride a bike with twin (bright) headlights. Much better than so-called hi-viz, which isn't. If car drivers learned to use the wing mirrors instead of just their rear view, we wouldn't have the problem. Better still, motorcyclists are taught to use a 'lifesaver' check over their right shoulder before overtaking –& amp; nbsp;may be car drivers ought to try it... might save a few lives.[/p][/quote]My first cars didn't actually have wing mirrors. They were an accessory I fitted myself. Mind you, I don't remember bikes passing on the inside. I'm not sure that side mirrors are compulsory and they might be folded in because we don't want a motor bike flashing past and whacking them. Just a thought! Speaking personally, I'm usually a bit busy looking where I'm actually going[/p][/quote]Well, if you're too busy looking in front of you to bother checking your mirrors then you shouldn't really be in charge of a car. You're an idiot and an accident waiting to happen. nocando
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6:56pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Nick_H_is_the_one says...

As always the replies have got away from the subject. I'm sure that The Argus and B&H council will be glad of that.

However to get us back on stream the parking is appalling in Brighton and Hove.

I have a suggestion, based on what I have done whilst driving a minibus for disabled youngsters, do away with disabled parking bays, turn them over to motorcycle parking.

The reason? You can park anywhere with a blue badge. Remember I was driving a dirty great Iveco minibus with tail access so I needed clear access something that is rarely available in a disabled bay. It would free up a lot of extra parking for motorcycles. Wouldn't impinge on cage drivers' parking spots and is easy to implement as the City has so few decent bike sized bays.

The other choice is to get rid of the buses and make the bus-lanes into parking for everyone :D
As always the replies have got away from the subject. I'm sure that The Argus and B&H council will be glad of that. However to get us back on stream the parking is appalling in Brighton and Hove. I have a suggestion, based on what I have done whilst driving a minibus for disabled youngsters, do away with disabled parking bays, turn them over to motorcycle parking. The reason? You can park anywhere with a blue badge. Remember I was driving a dirty great Iveco minibus with tail access so I needed clear access something that is rarely available in a disabled bay. It would free up a lot of extra parking for motorcycles. Wouldn't impinge on cage drivers' parking spots and is easy to implement as the City has so few decent bike sized bays. The other choice is to get rid of the buses and make the bus-lanes into parking for everyone :D Nick_H_is_the_one
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2:55pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Number Six says...

nocando wrote:
Number Six wrote:
_Mitch_ wrote:
gusset snatcher wrote:
I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks
The only reason why some of us use full beam when filtering (or rev the engines) is because most people in cars have no clue what the drivers' side mirror is for – the amount I see that are folded up while the car is being driven is astonishing – It is so we can be seen and heard.

I've lost count of the amount of times I've seen cars pulling across in front of me – while filtering – without looking.

That's why I always ride a bike with twin (bright) headlights. Much better than so-called hi-viz, which isn't.

If car drivers learned to use the wing mirrors instead of just their rear view, we wouldn't have the problem.

Better still, motorcyclists are taught to use a 'lifesaver' check over their right shoulder before overtaking –&
amp;
amp;
nbsp;may
be car drivers ought to try it... might save a few lives.
My first cars didn't actually have wing mirrors. They were an accessory I fitted myself. Mind you, I don't remember bikes passing on the inside.
I'm not sure that side mirrors are compulsory and they might be folded in because we don't want a motor bike flashing past and whacking them. Just a thought!

Speaking personally, I'm usually a bit busy looking where I'm actually going
Well, if you're too busy looking in front of you to bother checking your mirrors then you shouldn't really be in charge of a car. You're an idiot and an accident waiting to happen.
You're calling me an idiot? Oh, delicious irony.

I tend to concern myself with what's happening in front of me because I'm going forwards and I don't actually want to hit anything. I'm funny about that sort of thing. I'm not usually concerned with people who think that they are far to important to wait in a queue of traffic.
As for your fatuous comment about accident waiting to happen perhaps you may want think before opening your mouth. After all, forty years is a long wait, don't you think
[quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]_Mitch_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gusset snatcher[/bold] wrote: I have to say.... GOOOOOOOODDDDD.... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.. idiots that drive down the middle of the road with headlights on full beam revving the sh*t out of their engines.... utter load of pr*cks[/p][/quote]The only reason why some of us use full beam when filtering (or rev the engines) is because most people in cars have no clue what the drivers' side mirror is for – the amount I see that are folded up while the car is being driven is astonishing – It is so we can be seen and heard. I've lost count of the amount of times I've seen cars pulling across in front of me – while filtering – without looking. That's why I always ride a bike with twin (bright) headlights. Much better than so-called hi-viz, which isn't. If car drivers learned to use the wing mirrors instead of just their rear view, we wouldn't have the problem. Better still, motorcyclists are taught to use a 'lifesaver' check over their right shoulder before overtaking –& amp; amp; nbsp;may be car drivers ought to try it... might save a few lives.[/p][/quote]My first cars didn't actually have wing mirrors. They were an accessory I fitted myself. Mind you, I don't remember bikes passing on the inside. I'm not sure that side mirrors are compulsory and they might be folded in because we don't want a motor bike flashing past and whacking them. Just a thought! Speaking personally, I'm usually a bit busy looking where I'm actually going[/p][/quote]Well, if you're too busy looking in front of you to bother checking your mirrors then you shouldn't really be in charge of a car. You're an idiot and an accident waiting to happen.[/p][/quote]You're calling me an idiot? Oh, delicious irony. I tend to concern myself with what's happening in front of me because I'm going forwards and I don't actually want to hit anything. I'm funny about that sort of thing. I'm not usually concerned with people who think that they are far to important to wait in a queue of traffic. As for your fatuous comment about accident waiting to happen perhaps you may want think before opening your mouth. After all, forty years is a long wait, don't you think Number Six
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3:48pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Steve Heenan says...

Holy cr*p ! What a bag of worms I've opened. Still doesn't escape the fact there's nowhere to park big bikes. The events the council refers to parking restrictions are relaxed and bikes are parked all over the place coz there's NOWHERE FOR THEM TO PARK LEGALLY.
Holy cr*p ! What a bag of worms I've opened. Still doesn't escape the fact there's nowhere to park big bikes. The events the council refers to parking restrictions are relaxed and bikes are parked all over the place coz there's NOWHERE FOR THEM TO PARK LEGALLY. Steve Heenan
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