Water meter for every home in Brighton and Hove (From The Argus)

Well, this was inevitable from the moment they privatised the water companies. I'll keep resisting till the end but I still accept that it is inevitable.

It's the perfect business model...

Get everyone to use less of a 'product' and continue to increase the unit cost...

Charge more for less!

Once the meters are rolled out watch the price soar to counteract the loss of profits because people use less. Don't think it will happen ? Look at what has happened to gas an electricity !

The position Southern Water need to install my meter at is on my drive - I'll be ensuring a car is parked over it at all times !

of course it is fair to pay for what you use and not be subsidised by others. with water shortage worldwide this is a precious resource that needs using sensibly. residents do not need to water gardens excessively or kids play with the hose pipe or wash a car every week, or stay in the shower for 20 mins etc. you do not need to flush the loo evertime or run 4 separate baths a day. If large families use water properly they will not be out of pocket. it is about personal responsibility.

"Southern Water has announced the biggest ever change to water charging in the city, which will produce almost as many winners as losers."

So they're incurring the extra cost in order to make the same amount of money? What a load of rubbish. It'll cost us all more.

Fight_Back wrote:
Once the meters are rolled out watch the price soar to counteract the loss of profits because people use less. Don't think it will happen ? Look at what has happened to gas an electricity ! The position Southern Water need to install my meter at is on my drive - I'll be ensuring a car is parked over it at all times !

You don't need to be on a meter for them to increase charges. A meter might be your best defence actually, and those that stay on a flat rate for whatever reason will find that flat rate becomes very high, very quickly. Then I suspect your car might move.

Fight_Back wrote:
Once the meters are rolled out watch the price soar to counteract the loss of profits because people use less. Don't think it will happen ? Look at what has happened to gas an electricity ! The position Southern Water need to install my meter at is on my drive - I'll be ensuring a car is parked over it at all times !

At which point did the price of gas and electricity rise because of the introduction of metering - I suspect that you may be conflating two very different issues :)

Yet another con. Just like every other company providing an essential service, they will always be able to shaft people and there is nothing anyone can do about. Just bend over people!

...another notch on Maggies Bed post...

"...customers are charged for the water they use...".

Where's the problem?

I don't understand why this hasn't happened sooner. Flat rates are a scam, you should only pay for what you use. And please don't come to me with the "it will mean prices will rise". Prices will rise no matter what due to the greed of the companies, that's a completely different story.

I agree that when every household has a meter the price may well rocket, which is exactly why I have had a meter put in now. It is saving me £144 a year. So yes it will eventually go up, but at least I’ve saved money before it does.

We have abundance of water we are surounded by sea which can be purified,people use a lot less water now as tap water is usually unfit to drink.So its all down to making more profit.Its will hit families with children worse.It is a fundamental right to have clean water for health and hygene.We used to pay for water in with our council tax but they separated it and gradually made it more expensive ,a seperate tax,as is sewerage charge now seperated.We need water gas and electric and water re-nationalised.

those thinking water meters are a good idea better hope they don't get an undetected leak that they're responsible for.

Could run into hundreds of pounds more to pay

It should be done national. It is ridiculous that some people are not charged for what they use.

Funnily enough if you use no water at all you still get charged...

And SW charge almost double the amount to 'remove' the water they have supplied...

Btw, those lucky enough to have a home where SW need access to install a meter...read up on 'removal of implied right of access', and get anyone arrested for harrasment/trespass if they try and install one!

If water is so scarce how do you account for this?

"Southern Water had a target of limiting leaks to 83million litres – 18.26million gallons – per day in 2010-2011 and the actual leakage was 16 per cent higher at 96million litres, 21.12million gallons."

Mr P Brown wrote:
I agree that when every household has a meter the price may well rocket, which is exactly why I have had a meter put in now. It is saving me £144 a year. So yes it will eventually go up, but at least I’ve saved money before it does.

I did exactly the same Mr P. As soon as my meter was installed I phoned SW and was metered instantly. I'm now paying £32/month for 12 months instead of £58/month for 10 months for a band D property. A saving of £206 on a full year. I want to make savings now for I agree that as soon as we are all on meters the shaeholders will kick up as their dividends will suffer. They can't have that can they and the price will rise to make up the shortfall. Like all utilities they have us by the short and curlies.

Typical moaners and groaners on the Arsegas website again. Getting a free meter with the possibility of reducing your bills and they all moan. I found when I had one put in my bills were less than half what they were before.

BiggerH wrote:
those thinking water meters are a good idea better hope they don't get an undetected leak that they're responsible for.

Could run into hundreds of pounds more to pay

In fact if you have a leak you can claim back the excess water charge. I had a pipe burst in my garage and using the past readings they refunded the amour that appeared to be above the normal use for that period. From Southern Waters Code of Practice 'Will my metered bill be corrected?
This depends on the circumstances.
If you are paying metered charges, we will correct both water supply and wastewater charges to reflect the extra amount of water recorded because of the leak once it has been repaired. We normally re-calculate your metered charges based on past usage. Where there is no record of past consumption, the adjustment shall be based upon typical usage for a property of a similar type.

They are installing meters in the Adur area at the moment. We have ours and as there are only two in our household, we should notice the difference.
People should pay for what they use, especially those who fill up their rather large plunge pools every summer and then let the water run down the road when they empty it!! The example I'm making is someone living in North Lancing - it takes two or three days to empty it - very wasteful indeed.

Crystal Ball says...
2:51pm Wed 14 Nov 12

"...customers are charged for the water they use...".

Where's the problem?”


customers are charged for the gas thet use...

Whats the problem ?

BiggerH wrote:
those thinking water meters are a good idea better hope they don't get an undetected leak that they're responsible for. Could run into hundreds of pounds more to pay

Well yes, that would be true if you don't keep an eye on the meter, but if do you will spot the leak more quickly

A key commodity such as water should not be provided on the ability to pay - everyone needs water. It should never have been privatised in the first place.

Mr P Brown wrote:

BiggerH wrote:
those thinking water meters are a good idea better hope they don't get an undetected leak that they're responsible for. Could run into hundreds of pounds more to pay

Well yes, that would be true if you don't keep an eye on the meter, but if do you will spot the leak more quickly

I guess then that you are the idiot constantly prying open the access panel in the street to check whether you have a leak...

Blame Thatcher, selling off all the essential services to muppets who made a quick £100. It's mainly wealthy shareholders, who didn't have to sell up to make ends meet after Thatcher and Lawson f###Ed the economy up, who rake in share dividends. this is what keeps prices rising.

Living in a house, one of five flats, I asked for a meter a few years back and was told they could do one for the whole house (ie 5 flats together) but not each individual flat.

Hope they've upgraded their system now or it won't be fair.

And another thing... as a private company there's no such thing as "free", who will be paying for all these new meters and their installation??? I'm guessing we will.... Hope they sort out their own leaks before they start punishing us

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

BiggerH wrote: those thinking water meters are a good idea better hope they don't get an undetected leak that they're responsible for. Could run into hundreds of pounds more to pay

Well yes, that would be true if you don't keep an eye on the meter, but if do you will spot the leak more quickly

I guess then that you are the idiot constantly prying open the access panel in the street to check whether you have a leak...

I don't. I just said you could.

Mr P Brown wrote:

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

BiggerH wrote: those thinking water meters are a good idea better hope they don't get an undetected leak that they're responsible for. Could run into hundreds of pounds more to pay

Well yes, that would be true if you don't keep an eye on the meter, but if do you will spot the leak more quickly

I guess then that you are the idiot constantly prying open the access panel in the street to check whether you have a leak...

I don't. I just said you could.

The trouble is that it will be you and your ilk that will bleat the loudest when you believe you have been treated unfairly...

In the meantime you don't gine a fcuk for anyone else...

'divide and rule' works brilliantly doesn't it!

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

BiggerH wrote: those thinking water meters are a good idea better hope they don't get an undetected leak that they're responsible for. Could run into hundreds of pounds more to pay

Well yes, that would be true if you don't keep an eye on the meter, but if do you will spot the leak more quickly

I guess then that you are the idiot constantly prying open the access panel in the street to check whether you have a leak...

I don't. I just said you could.

The trouble is that it will be you and your ilk that will bleat the loudest when you believe you have been treated unfairly... In the meantime you don't gine a fcuk for anyone else... 'divide and rule' works brilliantly doesn't it!

Me and my ilk whoever the (quote 'fcuk') they are, are just making hay while the sun shines. When the water companies put the price up, as they will for sure. At least me, and my ilk, will have had a bit of cheaper water before it happens As far as I can see at the minute you are bleating louder then any other cnut (see I can do it too) on here. Power to the people. Wnaker, there I did it again

Fight_Back wrote:
A key commodity such as water should not be provided on the ability to pay - everyone needs water. It should never have been privatised in the first place.

Agree 100%, but we are where we are. Glen Murray should never had gone to C Palace but he did.

Bring on the meter! I asked my private landlord if my partner and I could get one fitted in our two bedroom flat to save on our near £600 bill. He replied `no` as he and his family might want to move back in one day !! . Previous flat had a meter ( similar property) and our bill was £350 . Pay for what you use. No meter also gives me no incentive to save water either ( selfish , but hey, sue me) ;-)

Mr P Brown wrote:

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

BiggerH wrote: those thinking water meters are a good idea better hope they don't get an undetected leak that they're responsible for. Could run into hundreds of pounds more to pay

Well yes, that would be true if you don't keep an eye on the meter, but if do you will spot the leak more quickly

I guess then that you are the idiot constantly prying open the access panel in the street to check whether you have a leak...

I don't. I just said you could.

The trouble is that it will be you and your ilk that will bleat the loudest when you believe you have been treated unfairly... In the meantime you don't gine a fcuk for anyone else... 'divide and rule' works brilliantly doesn't it!

Me and my ilk whoever the (quote 'fcuk') they are, are just making hay while the sun shines. When the water companies put the price up, as they will for sure. At least me, and my ilk, will have had a bit of cheaper water before it happens As far as I can see at the minute you are bleating louder then any other cnut (see I can do it too) on here. Power to the people. Wnaker, there I did it again

As ever some people just don't get it...

I bet you are one of those who would be happily led to the 'showers' without question!

Mr P Brown wrote:

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

BiggerH wrote: those thinking water meters are a good idea better hope they don't get an undetected leak that they're responsible for. Could run into hundreds of pounds more to pay

Well yes, that would be true if you don't keep an eye on the meter, but if do you will spot the leak more quickly

I guess then that you are the idiot constantly prying open the access panel in the street to check whether you have a leak...

I don't. I just said you could.

The trouble is that it will be you and your ilk that will bleat the loudest when you believe you have been treated unfairly... In the meantime you don't gine a fcuk for anyone else... 'divide and rule' works brilliantly doesn't it!

Me and my ilk whoever the (quote 'fcuk') they are, are just making hay while the sun shines. When the water companies put the price up, as they will for sure. At least me, and my ilk, will have had a bit of cheaper water before it happens As far as I can see at the minute you are bleating louder then any other cnut (see I can do it too) on here. Power to the people. Wnaker, there I did it again

As ever some people just don't get it...

I bet you are one of those who would be happily led to the 'showers' without question!"

I hope those "showers" are on a meter, it should be quite a saving. Nutjob.

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

BiggerH wrote: those thinking water meters are a good idea better hope they don't get an undetected leak that they're responsible for. Could run into hundreds of pounds more to pay

Well yes, that would be true if you don't keep an eye on the meter, but if do you will spot the leak more quickly

I guess then that you are the idiot constantly prying open the access panel in the street to check whether you have a leak...

I don't. I just said you could.

The trouble is that it will be you and your ilk that will bleat the loudest when you believe you have been treated unfairly... In the meantime you don't gine a fcuk for anyone else... 'divide and rule' works brilliantly doesn't it!

Me and my ilk whoever the (quote 'fcuk') they are, are just making hay while the sun shines. When the water companies put the price up, as they will for sure. At least me, and my ilk, will have had a bit of cheaper water before it happens As far as I can see at the minute you are bleating louder then any other cnut (see I can do it too) on here. Power to the people. Wnaker, there I did it again

As ever some people just don't get it...

I bet you are one of those who would be happily led to the 'showers' without question!

To sbiscorrupt;-

I hope you live alone because you seem a right cynic and would probably drive anyone living with you to suicide.

lighten up you misery

mimseycal wrote:
Well, this was inevitable from the moment they privatised the water companies. I'll keep resisting till the end but I still accept that it is inevitable.

You pay for the petrol you use in your car.
You pay for the electric you use.
You pay for the gas you use.
Why shouldn't you pay for the water you use?

Why should an elderly lady living on her own pay the same as a family with two adults and four kids?

water meters are good...but make sure Southern water are reading the right meter! When you move into a metered flat/house call then out to do a reading. They got all our flats mixed up...and had to write off and start again...i was paying £86 pm now £25 pm

hubby wrote:

mimseycal wrote:
Well, this was inevitable from the moment they privatised the water companies. I'll keep resisting till the end but I still accept that it is inevitable.

You pay for the petrol you use in your car.
You pay for the electric you use.
You pay for the gas you use.
Why shouldn't you pay for the water you use?

Why should an elderly lady living on her own pay the same as a family with two adults and four kids?

Indeed, but careful what you wish for because those kids having paid £9000 a year tuition fees at Uni, then expected to pay through the nose for housing and with little chance of an occupational pension may resent paying for the little old lady's pension, bus pass, TV licence etc when her generation made such a mess of it!

According to some of the research reports on the internet, the majority of water savings are down to the water company being to better identify leaks on their side of the meter.

I would be quite happy to have a meter as we have already put in a number of water saving measures. However, for the majority I would have preffered to have seen the cost of water meters (which are just added to the water bill) being spent on replacing 9 litre flush toilets with low water use models and fitting tap aerators and low consumption shower heads. These devices save a lot of water, whilst a water meter itself saves none.

Idontbelieveit1948 wrote:

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

BiggerH wrote: those thinking water meters are a good idea better hope they don't get an undetected leak that they're responsible for. Could run into hundreds of pounds more to pay

Well yes, that would be true if you don't keep an eye on the meter, but if do you will spot the leak more quickly

I guess then that you are the idiot constantly prying open the access panel in the street to check whether you have a leak...

I don't. I just said you could.

The trouble is that it will be you and your ilk that will bleat the loudest when you believe you have been treated unfairly... In the meantime you don't gine a fcuk for anyone else... 'divide and rule' works brilliantly doesn't it!

Me and my ilk whoever the (quote 'fcuk') they are, are just making hay while the sun shines. When the water companies put the price up, as they will for sure. At least me, and my ilk, will have had a bit of cheaper water before it happens As far as I can see at the minute you are bleating louder then any other cnut (see I can do it too) on here. Power to the people. Wnaker, there I did it again

As ever some people just don't get it...

I bet you are one of those who would be happily led to the 'showers' without question!

To sbiscorrupt;-

I hope you live alone because you seem a right cynic and would probably drive anyone living with you to suicide.

lighten up you misery

There's an apt word for you...

It's called a mushroom...

Happy to be kept in the dark and fed on sh*t!

HJarrs wrote:

hubby wrote:

mimseycal wrote:
Well, this was inevitable from the moment they privatised the water companies. I'll keep resisting till the end but I still accept that it is inevitable.

You pay for the petrol you use in your car.
You pay for the electric you use.
You pay for the gas you use.
Why shouldn't you pay for the water you use?

Why should an elderly lady living on her own pay the same as a family with two adults and four kids?

Indeed, but careful what you wish for because those kids having paid £9000 a year tuition fees at Uni, then expected to pay through the nose for housing and with little chance of an occupational pension may resent paying for the little old lady's pension, bus pass, TV licence etc when her generation made such a mess of it!

Then again the two adults on benefits could have spawned another four who don't work.Who then have sprogs of their own who drain the system.
Hang on .....isn't that what has been happening?

hubby wrote:

HJarrs wrote:

hubby wrote:

mimseycal wrote:
Well, this was inevitable from the moment they privatised the water companies. I'll keep resisting till the end but I still accept that it is inevitable.

You pay for the petrol you use in your car.
You pay for the electric you use.
You pay for the gas you use.
Why shouldn't you pay for the water you use?

Why should an elderly lady living on her own pay the same as a family with two adults and four kids?

Indeed, but careful what you wish for because those kids having paid £9000 a year tuition fees at Uni, then expected to pay through the nose for housing and with little chance of an occupational pension may resent paying for the little old lady's pension, bus pass, TV licence etc when her generation made such a mess of it!

Then again the two adults on benefits could have spawned another four who don't work.Who then have sprogs of their own who drain the system.
Hang on .....isn't that what has been happening?

And the sprogs could be the ones wiping your backside when you are even older and decrepit and their taxes paying for your old folks home.

Next.

hubby wrote:

mimseycal wrote:
Well, this was inevitable from the moment they privatised the water companies. I'll keep resisting till the end but I still accept that it is inevitable.

You pay for the petrol you use in your car.
You pay for the electric you use.
You pay for the gas you use.
Why shouldn't you pay for the water you use?

Why should an elderly lady living on her own pay the same as a family with two adults and four kids?

I can live without petrol.
I can live without electricity
I can live without gas

I can't live without water

Don't be fooled, if there's one or two of you, you may well benefit but in general households will see their bills soar through the roof! I've been unlucky enough to have lived in 2 houses with already installed water meters. With 3 kids and a husband my bill is near on £900 per annum. It's not easy to regulate water with todays power showers, frequent washing machine use and toilet flushing - basic hygiene necessities. Forget power washing your patio and hosing down the car. Sales of dishwashers and hot tubs will fall, more redundancies - keep being compliant guys, they're fleecing us all the way to the bank!

VanessaW wrote:
Don't be fooled, if there's one or two of you, you may well benefit but in general households will see their bills soar through the roof! I've been unlucky enough to have lived in 2 houses with already installed water meters. With 3 kids and a husband my bill is near on £900 per annum. It's not easy to regulate water with todays power showers, frequent washing machine use and toilet flushing - basic hygiene necessities. Forget power washing your patio and hosing down the car. Sales of dishwashers and hot tubs will fall, more redundancies - keep being compliant guys, they're fleecing us all the way to the bank!

Indeed. It's just to hide the lack of investment from SW in leak repair and new water collection facilities !

Paying for what you use in water is nonsensical. The water itself is free.

What you're paying for are the fixed costs of treatment and infrastructure, which are basically the same for everyone and certainly not double if you use twice as much.

Indeed and in that case those of us with more in our households are paying for those with less - put that in your pipe!

Water meters are not a good thing. The toilet bowls in our house were stained brown when we moved in, i realise now it was because they were scared to flush them - I call upon Health & Safety to investigate the possible health hazards if meters are to be for all??

hubby wrote:

mimseycal wrote:
Well, this was inevitable from the moment they privatised the water companies. I'll keep resisting till the end but I still accept that it is inevitable.

You pay for the petrol you use in your car.
You pay for the electric you use.
You pay for the gas you use.
Why shouldn't you pay for the water you use?

Why should an elderly lady living on her own pay the same as a family with two adults and four kids?

Why not extend this logic - I dont have kids, why should I pay for schools. I haven't been to the doctors, why should I contribute towards the NHS. I am not on benefits of any kind, why should my tax go towards benefits etc etc etc... in fact you could perhaps say that often those that contribute the least get the most back (a lot of the biggest households don't have anyone working in them) Council Tax?.. Hmmm, it doesn't seem you always pay for what you use, its often the complete reverse.

censored wrote:
Paying for what you use in water is nonsensical. The water itself is free.

What you're paying for are the fixed costs of treatment and infrastructure, which are basically the same for everyone and certainly not double if you use twice as much.

Absolutely spot on.

Man With No Name wrote:

hubby wrote:

mimseycal wrote: Well, this was inevitable from the moment they privatised the water companies. I'll keep resisting till the end but I still accept that it is inevitable.

You pay for the petrol you use in your car. You pay for the electric you use. You pay for the gas you use. Why shouldn't you pay for the water you use? Why should an elderly lady living on her own pay the same as a family with two adults and four kids?

Why not extend this logic - I dont have kids, why should I pay for schools. I haven't been to the doctors, why should I contribute towards the NHS. I am not on benefits of any kind, why should my tax go towards benefits etc etc etc... in fact you could perhaps say that often those that contribute the least get the most back (a lot of the biggest households don't have anyone working in them) Council Tax?.. Hmmm, it doesn't seem you always pay for what you use, its often the complete reverse.

You don't pay for schools, they've always been metered, as any other commercial premises or large buildings are. The meters being rolled out are residential only.

sbiscorrupt wrote:

Mr P Brown wrote:

BiggerH wrote:
those thinking water meters are a good idea better hope they don't get an undetected leak that they're responsible for. Could run into hundreds of pounds more to pay

Well yes, that would be true if you don't keep an eye on the meter, but if do you will spot the leak more quickly

I guess then that you are the idiot constantly prying open the access panel in the street to check whether you have a leak...

You don't have to be underhand about it, we check ours every month - every house has their own access to their meter - well they do where I live anyway.

Gary Manilow wrote:

censored wrote: Paying for what you use in water is nonsensical. The water itself is free. What you're paying for are the fixed costs of treatment and infrastructure, which are basically the same for everyone and certainly not double if you use twice as much.

Absolutely spot on.

If you were only paying for the water you get, your argument would be right, but as logically the more water you use, the more you have to have treated, and treatment obviously isn’t a fixed cost, it’s wrong. Unless of course you think it costs the same to treat 1 cubic meter of waste, as it costs to treat a thousand cubic meters of waste. Therefore with a meter the more water you use, the more you pay for treatment of waste.

Its actually illegal to cut off someone's water supply, so they get around it by reducing it to a trickle. The company hates this and has lobbied MP's for years to change this.

This is obviously just an excuse to put more pressure on people and politicians. "Oh but look how much water Mr x used, but didn't yet pay...and we only made £40 million profit last year boo hoo".

Oh, and watch the idiots swallow the rubbish about this being "Green" or "good for the environment."

HJarrs wrote:
hubby wrote:
mimseycal wrote:
WMay I remind HJarrs that people of the little old ladies generation did a lot that he is obviously too young to care about, such as fighting the terror and tyranny that threatened this country, may I also remind him of a speech by Margaret Thatcher, as most seem to have forgotten the good she did, but as Mark Anthony said "The evil that men do lives after them, the good is oft interred with their bones"
Quote "May I point out to him that he would not have been able to enjoy the freedom of speech that he puts to such excellent use, unless people had been prepared to fight for it"

Southern Water, One of the TOP 5 Polluters in the UK...Who lose more than the contents of Bewl Water through leaks EVERY DAY!... What a monopoly

Rocco10 wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

hubby wrote:

mimseycal wrote: Well, this was inevitable from the moment they privatised the water companies. I'll keep resisting till the end but I still accept that it is inevitable.

You pay for the petrol you use in your car. You pay for the electric you use. You pay for the gas you use. Why shouldn't you pay for the water you use? Why should an elderly lady living on her own pay the same as a family with two adults and four kids?

Why not extend this logic - I dont have kids, why should I pay for schools. I haven't been to the doctors, why should I contribute towards the NHS. I am not on benefits of any kind, why should my tax go towards benefits etc etc etc... in fact you could perhaps say that often those that contribute the least get the most back (a lot of the biggest households don't have anyone working in them) Council Tax?.. Hmmm, it doesn't seem you always pay for what you use, its often the complete reverse.

You don't pay for schools, they've always been metered, as any other commercial premises or large buildings are. The meters being rolled out are residential only.

I wasn't talking about just their water, I meant the entire service they provide.

Man With No Name wrote:

Rocco10 wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

hubby wrote:

mimseycal wrote: Well, this was inevitable from the moment they privatised the water companies. I'll keep resisting till the end but I still accept that it is inevitable.

You pay for the petrol you use in your car. You pay for the electric you use. You pay for the gas you use. Why shouldn't you pay for the water you use? Why should an elderly lady living on her own pay the same as a family with two adults and four kids?

Why not extend this logic - I dont have kids, why should I pay for schools. I haven't been to the doctors, why should I contribute towards the NHS. I am not on benefits of any kind, why should my tax go towards benefits etc etc etc... in fact you could perhaps say that often those that contribute the least get the most back (a lot of the biggest households don't have anyone working in them) Council Tax?.. Hmmm, it doesn't seem you always pay for what you use, its often the complete reverse.

You don't pay for schools, they've always been metered, as any other commercial premises or large buildings are. The meters being rolled out are residential only.

I wasn't talking about just their water, I meant the entire service they provide.

So you would be prepared to foot the bill if you got a virus, that caused you to need a heart transplant, when you have opted out of the NHS? No I thought not

Sorry but the headline is wrong not all properties will have water metres, I live in a listed building and southern water have been round and say it is not possible to fit a metre. I wouldn't mind, I have no garden to water and no where near to park my car to wash it.

brightonian57 wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

Rocco10 wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

hubby wrote:

mimseycal wrote: Well, this was inevitable from the moment they privatised the water companies. I'll keep resisting till the end but I still accept that it is inevitable.

You pay for the petrol you use in your car. You pay for the electric you use. You pay for the gas you use. Why shouldn't you pay for the water you use? Why should an elderly lady living on her own pay the same as a family with two adults and four kids?

Why not extend this logic - I dont have kids, why should I pay for schools. I haven't been to the doctors, why should I contribute towards the NHS. I am not on benefits of any kind, why should my tax go towards benefits etc etc etc... in fact you could perhaps say that often those that contribute the least get the most back (a lot of the biggest households don't have anyone working in them) Council Tax?.. Hmmm, it doesn't seem you always pay for what you use, its often the complete reverse.

You don't pay for schools, they've always been metered, as any other commercial premises or large buildings are. The meters being rolled out are residential only.

I wasn't talking about just their water, I meant the entire service they provide.

So you would be prepared to foot the bill if you got a virus, that caused you to need a heart transplant, when you have opted out of the NHS? No I thought not

I didn't say I would opt out of the NHS?

just an excuse to charge more money in the long run, right now there making your water bills cheapier ( i know i got one installed ) but they only sucking you in so get meny people as possible then start wacking up the price and coming up with some excuse why.
all people care about is money, everything going up in price apart from our wages there just going down.