Caroline Lucas set to see if Brighton currency idea is sound as a pound

Caroline Lucas set to see if Brighton currency idea is sound as a pound Caroline Lucas set to see if Brighton currency idea is sound as a pound

Caroline Lucas is to set up a working group to investigate the feasibility of giving Brighton and Hove its own currency.

The Brighton Pavilion MP met with business leaders yesterday to discuss plans for a Brighton pound.

Representatives from Wired Sussex, Brighton and Hove Economic Partnership and the Tourism Alliance heard Tony Greenham of the New Economics Foundation outline the possible benefits of the scheme.

Mr Greenham said the complementary currency would be purchased with sterling at a one to one exchange rate. The sterling received would be held by the East Sussex Credit Union, a licensed deposit taker with assets of more than £1.3 million.

Once converted the currency could not be converted back into sterling or any other currency. It is not expected that national chains would take part in the scheme.

Dr Lucas said: “It could work in a similar way to the new Bristol pound, which involves an electronic payment system and strong participation by the local credit union and the council.

“Other proposals could include ‘time banking’, an initiative which promotes social inclusion by enabling people to ‘trade’ their time rather than their money so someone who does an hour’s painting and decorating, for example, can use the credits earned to buy an hour’s gardening from someone else.

“There’ll now be much more consultation and discussion, with a small working group looking into how best to take the process forward.”

Claire Ottewell, the chairman of the city’s tourism alliance, said a possible stumbling block for her members is that most of them belong to multiple chains.

She said: “The jury is out on the idea. I will askmymembers if they want to take it further.”

Brighton and Hove City Council leader Jason Kitcat said that a complementary currency scheme could give businesses access to finance through the East Sussex Credit Union.

He said: “I think the idea has potential. Whether it is as a business- to-business currency or for shoppers needs to be looked at. If it can work anywhere it can work here because there is such a strong sense of place and we have the technological expertise to make it happen.”

See The Argus's recent feature about the Lewes pound four years on.

Comments(115)

McCartney says...
3:47pm Sat 17 Nov 12

what a load of ****

therat says...
3:55pm Sat 17 Nov 12

These greens are MAD ! ! !
WHO IS PAYING FOR THIS ? ? ?

Algeria Touchshriek says...
3:59pm Sat 17 Nov 12

I understand nothing about local economics but with Lucas's face beaming down on the story like the demented and downright foul politician she is, this is a stupid idea.

A local currency will mean more her beloved travelers and squatters can steal from normal hard working people.

AmboGuy says...
4:03pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Oh Caroline get lost you useless useless woman. This'll last about as long as the Lewes pound.

Nitrous_McBread says...
4:08pm Sat 17 Nov 12

I see the negative loudmouths are getting agitated already. One even admits above that they know nothing about local economies. So what are you doing commenting on a story about the local economy, you blithering idiot?

Regional currencies are designed to stimulate local economies, and have done. It's a good idea. If you want to have a hissy fit at the Greens, this isn't the place to do it.

Now bore off down to Stanmer Park and uproot some dandelions or something.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
4:08pm Sat 17 Nov 12

What a completely pointless and ridiculous initiative - given this woman seems to wish to support it, it immediately suggests failure.

Lewesradical says...
4:14pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Obviously Lewes is too far from Brighton for Ms.Lucas to call in and ask how the Lewes Pound has worked.

rubberflipper says...
4:17pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Is such a scheme really top priority for the people of B&H when so many are out of work or finding it difficult to make ends meet.

Of course, in the case of Lucas, it's a case of how much public money can I skim from the trough while I'm a sitting MP.

Idontbelieveit1948 says...
4:24pm Sat 17 Nov 12

A nursery rhyme for our times :-

Traders takings just keep going down,
Green Caroline says “Brighton Pound”,
But the feeling at large is
Bring down parking charges,
To get visitors back into town

Martha Gunn says...
4:27pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Another mad and bad Green Party folly. Another nail in the coffin of our city.

theleftygiraffe says...
4:33pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Algeria Touchshriek wrote:
I understand nothing about local economics but with Lucas's face beaming down on the story like the demented and downright foul politician she is, this is a stupid idea.

A local currency will mean more her beloved travelers and squatters can steal from normal hard working people.
"I admit I don't know what I'm talking about but I'm going to say words anyway." Nicely done.

ruberducker says...
4:36pm Sat 17 Nov 12

can you use it in the parking meters,busses,taxis,
train station...no!
can you use it in tesco,asda,etc...no!

and when you changed your hard earned cash fo the pink pound--your stuck with it.
"please turn the lights off when you leave"

Idontbelieveit1948 says...
4:41pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Nitrous_McBread wrote:
I see the negative loudmouths are getting agitated already. One even admits above that they know nothing about local economies. So what are you doing commenting on a story about the local economy, you blithering idiot?

Regional currencies are designed to stimulate local economies, and have done. It's a good idea. If you want to have a hissy fit at the Greens, this isn't the place to do it.

Now bore off down to Stanmer Park and uproot some dandelions or something.
"Now bore off down to Stanmer Park and uproot some dandelions or something."

But that would hardly be Green either would it ?

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
4:42pm Sat 17 Nov 12

ruberducker wrote:
can you use it in the parking meters,busses,taxis,

train station...no!
can you use it in tesco,asda,etc...no!


and when you changed your hard earned cash fo the pink pound--your stuck with it.
"please turn the lights off when you leave"
Not sure this mob would manage to find the light switch

sbiscorrupt says...
4:57pm Sat 17 Nov 12

One day you brainwashed lot will realise that when it comes down to it we'll inevitably have to find a different system...

After all, globalisation has been such a success hasn't it!

This may not be a perfect solution, but localisation is certainly preferable to a continued worship of the corporate elite...

Brightonlad86 says...
5:13pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Ridiculous idea!! We have all seen what happened when the European Parliament decided to invent a currency!!

Ouseler says...
5:30pm Sat 17 Nov 12

You are a grumpy lot!! It's a great idea, not a pound though..It could be a Brighton Mince with a queens head on it naturally. We could have coins for meters etc: Pixies!..yep that'll do Pixies, five Pixies equals one Mince...
Tourists would love it, they could boast "I've been to Brighton and I've got a Mince to prove it".......* v *
--

HJarrs says...
5:32pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Did the Lewes pound provide a positive stimulus to the Lewes economy? Is it still going? What lessons cn be learned to make a Brighton pound successful? Does the Bristol scheme working or are there other working examples? I would like to know, perhaps the Argus could do some investigative journalism on what could be a significant economic evelopment.

I can see that if you shop at local traders and sufficient numbers of local businesses take this up then there could be a significant economic boost and a benefit of keeping money in the community. Those that only shop and trade with corporations and multinationals do not seem to be the people who this scheme is initially aimed at.

It is easy to take a pop at this as it is an example of lateral thinking and change to the othordox, which frightens some people as demonstrated above.

wole says...
5:35pm Sat 17 Nov 12

What a load of utter crap!! This woman has finally gone as mad as her sidekick Kitcat.
Why on earth would this Town want a currency of it's own when half the people are visitors. Why do these idiots continue to make up stupid plans and waste our money.
Please can we see the back of these IDIOT Green party &%$)^

juleshove says...
5:49pm Sat 17 Nov 12

The usual utter nonsense from the greens and that silly Lucas woman.

grumblegoat says...
5:52pm Sat 17 Nov 12

What a lot of unbelievably unhappy and boring people you are! Introducing an optional local currency is about making people THINK about what money is and how it works - particularly in the local/global sense. It has been tried successfully in Bristol and Lewes - it's not a Green party idea at all. Yawn.

grumblegoat says...
5:59pm Sat 17 Nov 12

What a lot of unbelievably unhappy and boring people you are! Introducing an optional local currency is about making people THINK about what money is and how it works - particularly in the local/global sense. It has been tried successfully in Bristol and Lewes - it's not a Green party idea at all. Yawn.

pwlr1966 says...
6:13pm Sat 17 Nov 12

stupid woman, just look at the Lewes Pound, why cant she get the hint and Feckoff

menowhere says...
7:05pm Sat 17 Nov 12

pink pound yes, brighton pound no :D

funkyyoyo says...
7:16pm Sat 17 Nov 12

no thanks i prefer to have a picture of her majesty on my notes and coins,not the loony lucas green muppets,how bout paint all the drain covers pink!!!

Maxwell's Ghost says...
7:24pm Sat 17 Nov 12

The Lewes pound people were interviewed on the radio a few months back stating that it had little benefit and actually a PR campaign promoting the businesses in offer would have been more successful.
However, the increase in parking charges in the city has gained national coverage and been a PR disaster for the city particularly as our local radio stations are advertising rail trips into London at a price cheaper than a day bus ticket.

wole says...
7:32pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Grumblegoat is obviously another scumbag tree hugger!

grumblegoat says...
7:40pm Sat 17 Nov 12

and wole defines himself

grumblegoat says...
7:42pm Sat 17 Nov 12

and wole defines him/herself.

SicklySeagull says...
7:54pm Sat 17 Nov 12

When so little is being done to fix the many problems in Brighton you begin to wonder what the Council are doing,now we know.
In time no doubt it will be described as the Green Pound and will be worth ?

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
8:19pm Sat 17 Nov 12

sbiscorrupt wrote:
One day you brainwashed lot will realise that when it comes down to it we'll inevitably have to find a different system...

After all, globalisation has been such a success hasn't it!

This may not be a perfect solution, but localisation is certainly preferable to a continued worship of the corporate elite...
Just so long as we keep doing / start doing / stop doing, exactly the opposite of what you recommend I do believe we will all be fine. Your comments act as a reminder of all that is wrong with our current society anfd some of the morons who have inexplicably managed to influence it!

Morpheus says...
8:37pm Sat 17 Nov 12

What a crazy idea. If it cannot be converted into any other currency who is going to sell Brighton anything if all they get is the Brighton pound that can only be spent here? Have we got anything the Chinese will want, because they certainly provide a lot of the goods sold here?

Maxwell's Ghost says...
8:42pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Also will the Greens dictate which shops we are allowed to trade with. Will shops run by Christians or meat eaters be banned by Ben Duncan, and shops which sell non Fair Trade or energy heavy goods also be banned.
This lot have become such mini dictators about our llifestyles, we will probably have to pay a Green pound to spend a penny.
Even then they will probably want to check that we are using recycled toilet paper.
They seem to be getting crazier. Whatever happened to Imelda Marcos.

HJarrs says...
8:49pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.

General Dreedle says...
8:51pm Sat 17 Nov 12

sbiscorrupt wrote:
One day you brainwashed lot will realise that when it comes down to it we'll inevitably have to find a different system...

After all, globalisation has been such a success hasn't it!

This may not be a perfect solution, but localisation is certainly preferable to a continued worship of the corporate elite...
Au contraire. Globalisation has been a fantastic success for developing countries with plentiful supplies of cheap labour. It is the developed West that has suffered with its increasing advances as it is increasingly unable to compete with the lower costs of production.
This scheme is nonsense. As with any form of currency it relies on people accepting it and no-one who is visiting the city is going to accept Brighton pounds as change from sterling as they will not be able to spend it when they return to their own town. Likewise big businesses will not acept it and have their hands tied as to where they can utilise it. Neither will workers accept it in their pay packets and have their spending choices restricted. So we will be left with a few hippie traders in the North Laines using it between each other as they do currently. Funny how the Greens are against international borders but want to batten down the hatches when it comes to economics. Maybe they should just join UKIP.

Kate234 says...
8:52pm Sat 17 Nov 12

What a joke. The Greens hate local shops. Look how much business they have driven out of the city by their ridiculous (and nationally recognised in the media) high parking charges. Caroline Lucas and her party are a disgrace.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
9:01pm Sat 17 Nov 12

HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.

General Dreedle says...
9:14pm Sat 17 Nov 12

HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?

AmboGuy says...
9:14pm Sat 17 Nov 12

sbiscorrupt wrote:
One day you brainwashed lot will realise that when it comes down to it we'll inevitably have to find a different system...

After all, globalisation has been such a success hasn't it!

This may not be a perfect solution, but localisation is certainly preferable to a continued worship of the corporate elite...
Oh save it for the Cowley Club mate. Most people here don't agree with this but we don't need the 'corporate elite' lecture again.

HJarrs says...
9:21pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?

KingofthePaupers says...
10:10pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Jct: Though inferior to LETS time-based community currencies, a cash-based one can still still help a little via the Sparta Effect (substituting local for federal money gets the interest) though it can't help people who have no cash and only time to pledge as collateral for their tokens. Helping them takes a LETS Local Employment-Trading System timebank model.

DONTvotegreen says...
1:26am Sun 18 Nov 12

And then she wonders why people call it the " Gullible Party "

sbiscorrupt says...
3:29am Sun 18 Nov 12

AmboGuy wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
One day you brainwashed lot will realise that when it comes down to it we'll inevitably have to find a different system...

After all, globalisation has been such a success hasn't it!

This may not be a perfect solution, but localisation is certainly preferable to a continued worship of the corporate elite...
Oh save it for the Cowley Club mate. Most people here don't agree with this but we don't need the 'corporate elite' lecture again.
Usual brainless comment eh Ambo...

What you probably meant to say is that most people here would disagree with anything that Lucas says regardless of it's merit!

Anything that could help local businesses should at least be looked at rather than dismissed out of hand...

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
6:12am Sun 18 Nov 12

HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned.

Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.

Dealing with idiots says...
7:27am Sun 18 Nov 12

Lets concentrate on getting real pounds into the tills of local shops. This is a smokescreen to try and cover up the total failure of the Greens to attract business into the city. Best that the dear Dr focus on dealing with the thugs like tiny tony aiming to close down a business on Western Rd.

Hove Actually says...
8:08am Sun 18 Nov 12

General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote: Usual troll squad responses. Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder? Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do. It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far... 1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday. 2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly. 3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas. 4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim. 5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it. 6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016). 7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous. 8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads. Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
9. Thoushalt await the coming of the beings from space and greet them with a parking enforcement notice if their craft be not within a visitor bay

george smith says...
8:12am Sun 18 Nov 12

Daft idea, essentially we are or were a tourist destination. What are tourists going to do with unused pounds. I have a Lewes pound. Useless

Plantpot says...
8:39am Sun 18 Nov 12

Any money this costs would be better spent on PR and discounting. HMRC won't take the Brighton ££, utilities won't take it, most people won't want it as it restricts their ability to spend where they want to. Any chain stores won't take it. Shops won't want to see their existing customer base go from sterling to the BP as there is nowhere for businesses to spend it. Sterling margins will erode etc. etc. The biggest lose for any business is that people go wholesale for the BP. The receiving business will go bust as the article says there is no way to convert BP's back to sterling.

Commercial organisations offer barter services that haven't worked to any degree here in the UK. The issue is that people want to buy but not sell the artificial trade ££.

rfairweather@tiscali.co.uk says...
10:19am Sun 18 Nov 12

What will it be called? 'The Brighton KitKat'? It might as well be 'cos it will be about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

Andy R says...
10:41am Sun 18 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro


ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned.

Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks.

One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
11:14am Sun 18 Nov 12

Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro



ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned.

Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks.

One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?

HJarrs says...
12:20pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro


ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro




ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned.

Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks.

One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
Somethingsarejustwro
ng your posts are definately becoming more articulate, the comments page is obviously doing you some good.

However, as you obviously have superior "critical thinking and problem solving skills" than myself I am a little confused as to your view of my point, which is; if a B&H pound can be introduced in such a way that it benefits local people and traders should it be introduced? I think it should. What is your view? Being a bit thick I will settle for a simple yes or no.

HJarrs says...
12:25pm Sun 18 Nov 12

General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
Yawn, yawn.

How laughable that you and others seek to misrepresent a scheme that could aid local Brighton and Hove businesses. I also note how few of the nagative posters say a peep about the forthcoming £50 million of cuts over the next two years forced upon the council by the Tories. What have your Weatherley and Kirby done to defend the council's budget...deafening silence. It seems to me that many of you actually want to do down the city.

Andy R says...
12:26pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro


ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro




ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned.

Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks.

One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
That's the verdict from the Wingnut-in-Chief!

fredflintstone1 says...
12:53pm Sun 18 Nov 12

General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
Yes, I think so:-


Thou shalt chop down ash, oak and other trees at Wild Park, and so create a paradise for sheep and the shepherd, having driven out the people with thy fencing and destroyed the habitat of some 90 species, at a cost of £120,000.

(That’s real money by the way, not made-up Brighton pounds).

Thumper Hove says...
1:20pm Sun 18 Nov 12

This just shows how far removed from reality this stupid moo is. She should be helping her constituents who have real problems, not dreaming up loony schemes. Ask every Brighton & Hove resident what their priority is, only Lucas and Kitekat would say we need our own currency!

You couldnt' make this stuff up!

No doubt it would have madam on the front wearing a crown.

High Wire says...
1:39pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Bolus of bankers...

george smith says...
3:53pm Sun 18 Nov 12

I warm to Tony G more than I Clueless, I admire that he works with the Brighton unemployed, and he always seems to have a bit of Citizen Smith about him. I am sure if he had wanted he could have sold out and also owned five homes and commuted around europe. However always seems to stay true to his causes, what you see seems to be what you get, I am sure when the greens have been and gone greenstein will still be around telling us what utopia would be like

Idontbelieveit1948 says...
4:57pm Sun 18 Nov 12

fredflintstone1 wrote:
General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
Yes, I think so:-


Thou shalt chop down ash, oak and other trees at Wild Park, and so create a paradise for sheep and the shepherd, having driven out the people with thy fencing and destroyed the habitat of some 90 species, at a cost of £120,000.

(That’s real money by the way, not made-up Brighton pounds).
Thou shalt bow down to travellers, squatters and verily shalt thou welcome protesters as thine own brothers !

martyt says...
5:05pm Sun 18 Nov 12

therat wrote:
These greens are MAD ! ! !
WHO IS PAYING FOR THIS ? ? ?
have you not worked that out yet ? the council/paye tax payer

george smith says...
5:09pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Idontbelieveit1948 wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote: Usual troll squad responses. Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder? Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do. It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far... 1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday. 2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly. 3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas. 4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim. 5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it. 6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016). 7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous. 8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads. Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
Yes, I think so:- Thou shalt chop down ash, oak and other trees at Wild Park, and so create a paradise for sheep and the shepherd, having driven out the people with thy fencing and destroyed the habitat of some 90 species, at a cost of £120,000. (That’s real money by the way, not made-up Brighton pounds).
Thou shalt bow down to travellers, squatters and verily shalt thou welcome protesters as thine own brothers !
They shall not vilify landlords that rent properties to students for not paying council tax, students are the life blood of the greens

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
5:19pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro



ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro





ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned.

Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks.

One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
That's the verdict from the Wingnut-in-Chief!
How are your benefits flowing?

Just remember, you are owed a living by people like me who get up at 4am to ensure that we get the job done, that triggers the pay and in turn the tax to be passed to people like you.

If you need more, let me know and I'll consider writing you a personal cheque.

Alternatively you could join society and maybe get some work instead of relying on others!

mimseycal says...
6:01pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Lets put one urban myth to bed shall we? Landlords of HMO are responsible for ensuring the appropriate Council Tax is paid for their property. It is just that the Council Tax department doesn't hold individual tenants as responsible for paying the bill. The department has arranged it like this to save itself from having to chase all these HMO tenants for their 1/6th (or whatever the divide is) of the overall rate chargeable against a given property.

As for the Brighton pound, I agree that it is a ludicrous suggestion considering we are a (ahem) city by and large dependant on tourism. Local currency is a gimmick that would do little towards ensuring and encouraging local growth.

HJarrs says...
6:19pm Sun 18 Nov 12

fredflintstone1 wrote:
General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
Yes, I think so:-


Thou shalt chop down ash, oak and other trees at Wild Park, and so create a paradise for sheep and the shepherd, having driven out the people with thy fencing and destroyed the habitat of some 90 species, at a cost of £120,000.

(That’s real money by the way, not made-up Brighton pounds).
Labour and Conservative policy is different is it?

If I am not wrong, the change of habitat to calcareous grass land has been progressing for a number of years over several administrations.

Kate234 says...
6:28pm Sun 18 Nov 12

HJarrs wrote:
General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
Yawn, yawn.

How laughable that you and others seek to misrepresent a scheme that could aid local Brighton and Hove businesses. I also note how few of the nagative posters say a peep about the forthcoming £50 million of cuts over the next two years forced upon the council by the Tories. What have your Weatherley and Kirby done to defend the council's budget...deafening silence. It seems to me that many of you actually want to do down the city.
The fact that supposedly such high cuts took place this year and no one I know has noticed any difference in public services makes me wonder how much money must have been wasted over the the years. Thank goodness the council is being forced at last to be careful with our money.

HJarrs says...
6:30pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro


ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro




ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro






ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned.

Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks.

One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
That's the verdict from the Wingnut-in-Chief!
How are your benefits flowing?

Just remember, you are owed a living by people like me who get up at 4am to ensure that we get the job done, that triggers the pay and in turn the tax to be passed to people like you.

If you need more, let me know and I'll consider writing you a personal cheque.

Alternatively you could join society and maybe get some work instead of relying on others!
Ah! The argument lost, the stereotyping begins.

Funny, Andy R was supposed to be a shop steward in other posts, so would clearly have a job. If he is on benefits or has a job is irrelevant to the subject, which is that here is an idea that could benefit the local economy - you continuously do not answer whether you agree with local money if it could be shown to benefit the local economy.

Personally I work and pay a significant amount of tax and need no condescending lessons from you. I owe you nothing. If you don't like getting up at 4am, then get off your lazy backside and get another job!

martyt says...
6:34pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Kate234 wrote:
What a joke. The Greens hate local shops. Look how much business they have driven out of the city by their ridiculous (and nationally recognised in the media) high parking charges. Caroline Lucas and her party are a disgrace.
one wonders will the greens allow us to pay for parking with it ,or may we can force a few carrots or so in to a parking meter instead

Kate234 says...
6:34pm Sun 18 Nov 12

General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
7. Thou shall waste millions of pounds by building bicycle lanes that no one uses.
8. Thou shall build ridiculous bicycle parks that no one with a bike worth £30 or over would use (for fear of being nicked).
9. Thou shall have ridiculous facial hair and a name that sounds made up and like a chocolate bar.

HJarrs says...
6:38pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Kate234 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
Yawn, yawn.

How laughable that you and others seek to misrepresent a scheme that could aid local Brighton and Hove businesses. I also note how few of the nagative posters say a peep about the forthcoming £50 million of cuts over the next two years forced upon the council by the Tories. What have your Weatherley and Kirby done to defend the council's budget...deafening silence. It seems to me that many of you actually want to do down the city.
The fact that supposedly such high cuts took place this year and no one I know has noticed any difference in public services makes me wonder how much money must have been wasted over the the years. Thank goodness the council is being forced at last to be careful with our money.
It might just be that the council is being better run under a Green adminsistration.

The Tories were useless and Labour, while they made some notable achievements, fritted away an opportunity to transform B&H at a time when money was plentiful.

The council has been very successful recently in levering additional funding for a number of infrastructure schemes, which get the trolls frothing at the mouth.

HJarrs says...
6:43pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Kate234 wrote:
General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
7. Thou shall waste millions of pounds by building bicycle lanes that no one uses.
8. Thou shall build ridiculous bicycle parks that no one with a bike worth £30 or over would use (for fear of being nicked).
9. Thou shall have ridiculous facial hair and a name that sounds made up and like a chocolate bar.
Amazing how a party called Green "sneaked in" cyclepaths. Nobody could ever have imagined that they would have built them from their manifesto commitments!

If you can't get out of your car, then so be it, but let the rest of us have the choice to safely use a healthy and cheap form of transport.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
7:10pm Sun 18 Nov 12

HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
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Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro



ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro





ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro







ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned.

Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks.

One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
That's the verdict from the Wingnut-in-Chief!
How are your benefits flowing?

Just remember, you are owed a living by people like me who get up at 4am to ensure that we get the job done, that triggers the pay and in turn the tax to be passed to people like you.

If you need more, let me know and I'll consider writing you a personal cheque.

Alternatively you could join society and maybe get some work instead of relying on others!
Ah! The argument lost, the stereotyping begins.

Funny, Andy R was supposed to be a shop steward in other posts, so would clearly have a job. If he is on benefits or has a job is irrelevant to the subject, which is that here is an idea that could benefit the local economy - you continuously do not answer whether you agree with local money if it could be shown to benefit the local economy.

Personally I work and pay a significant amount of tax and need no condescending lessons from you. I owe you nothing. If you don't like getting up at 4am, then get off your lazy backside and get another job!
Always interesting to hear from the green parties very own 'village idiot', especially when she is clearly a tad annoyed at being found out.

In the most basic language I can muster, the Brighton pound is a nonsense, if you had more than a couple of effective brain cells you could work that out for yourself. As you seemingly don't then have a good read of all the comments above, where there are many cues and also some real-life evaluation.

It's never easy for people like you Hjarrs and your view of what significant tax is, is I am sure somewhat short of mine.

Accordingly,whilst you claim what you claim, in reality you are I suspect just another benefit grabber.

Kate234 says...
8:01pm Sun 18 Nov 12

HJarrs wrote:
Kate234 wrote:
General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
7. Thou shall waste millions of pounds by building bicycle lanes that no one uses.
8. Thou shall build ridiculous bicycle parks that no one with a bike worth £30 or over would use (for fear of being nicked).
9. Thou shall have ridiculous facial hair and a name that sounds made up and like a chocolate bar.
Amazing how a party called Green "sneaked in" cyclepaths. Nobody could ever have imagined that they would have built them from their manifesto commitments!

If you can't get out of your car, then so be it, but let the rest of us have the choice to safely use a healthy and cheap form of transport.
Yep just a shame we spent all that money on cycle lanes for only you as the lanes are empty.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
8:03pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Kate234 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Kate234 wrote:
General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
7. Thou shall waste millions of pounds by building bicycle lanes that no one uses.
8. Thou shall build ridiculous bicycle parks that no one with a bike worth £30 or over would use (for fear of being nicked).
9. Thou shall have ridiculous facial hair and a name that sounds made up and like a chocolate bar.
Amazing how a party called Green "sneaked in" cyclepaths. Nobody could ever have imagined that they would have built them from their manifesto commitments!

If you can't get out of your car, then so be it, but let the rest of us have the choice to safely use a healthy and cheap form of transport.
Yep just a shame we spent all that money on cycle lanes for only you as the lanes are empty.
Its OK as Hjarrs pays significant taxes!

Kate234 says...
8:10pm Sun 18 Nov 12

HJarrs wrote:
Kate234 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
Yawn, yawn.

How laughable that you and others seek to misrepresent a scheme that could aid local Brighton and Hove businesses. I also note how few of the nagative posters say a peep about the forthcoming £50 million of cuts over the next two years forced upon the council by the Tories. What have your Weatherley and Kirby done to defend the council's budget...deafening silence. It seems to me that many of you actually want to do down the city.
The fact that supposedly such high cuts took place this year and no one I know has noticed any difference in public services makes me wonder how much money must have been wasted over the the years. Thank goodness the council is being forced at last to be careful with our money.
It might just be that the council is being better run under a Green adminsistration.

The Tories were useless and Labour, while they made some notable achievements, fritted away an opportunity to transform B&H at a time when money was plentiful.

The council has been very successful recently in levering additional funding for a number of infrastructure schemes, which get the trolls frothing at the mouth.
Do you reckon. Why do they keep on trying to get through massive council tax rises if they are so responsible.

The Green Party is a disgrace. It cost £3.50 to park for 5 minutes to collect something from a HiFi shop today in London Road. What do you think I did - had lunch there and looked in other shops or collected my stuff and drove off. If I need to go back I will get somebody to wait in the car so I don't need to pay for parking. Not everyone is rich like Caroline Lucas and the Green people. Shops no doubt in this area and the North Lanes and Brighton generally have seen a drop in trade. Initially they can cut their costs by reducing people's hours or not replacing staff. After a while they can't carry on and the city, tourists and residents will lose out. Get rid of the Greens please and quickly.

The Real Phil says...
8:27pm Sun 18 Nov 12

HJarrs wrote:
Did the Lewes pound provide a positive stimulus to the Lewes economy? Is it still going? What lessons cn be learned to make a Brighton pound successful? Does the Bristol scheme working or are there other working examples? I would like to know, perhaps the Argus could do some investigative journalism on what could be a significant economic evelopment.

I can see that if you shop at local traders and sufficient numbers of local businesses take this up then there could be a significant economic boost and a benefit of keeping money in the community. Those that only shop and trade with corporations and multinationals do not seem to be the people who this scheme is initially aimed at.

It is easy to take a pop at this as it is an example of lateral thinking and change to the othordox, which frightens some people as demonstrated above.
The Lewes pound did stimulate local spending and does still exist. However, the Lewes pound has become a collector's item amongst the red hand defenders of King Willy's men due to the Lewes connection to anti popery.
It is quite probable that a Brighton pound would attract interest from outside the town for some negative reasons.

Andy R says...
9:51pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro


ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro




ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro






ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned.

Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks.

One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
That's the verdict from the Wingnut-in-Chief!
How are your benefits flowing?

Just remember, you are owed a living by people like me who get up at 4am to ensure that we get the job done, that triggers the pay and in turn the tax to be passed to people like you.

If you need more, let me know and I'll consider writing you a personal cheque.

Alternatively you could join society and maybe get some work instead of relying on others!
Well....that'll have lots of people scurrying back to the drawing board rethinking who they thought I was.....

You really are quite dim aren't you?

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
10:17pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro



ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro





ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro







ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned.

Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks.

One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
That's the verdict from the Wingnut-in-Chief!
How are your benefits flowing?

Just remember, you are owed a living by people like me who get up at 4am to ensure that we get the job done, that triggers the pay and in turn the tax to be passed to people like you.

If you need more, let me know and I'll consider writing you a personal cheque.

Alternatively you could join society and maybe get some work instead of relying on others!
Well....that'll have lots of people scurrying back to the drawing board rethinking who they thought I was.....

You really are quite dim aren't you?
In comparison to you, I suspect not. As to people scurrying back to drawing boards then recent publicity on the effectiveness of job centre plus suggested a fairly low energy response to benefit claimants, so make your own mind up and in the interim please do continue enlightening us as to why anyone may give two hoots as to who you are and what you do?

Andy R says...
11:33pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro


ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro




ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro






ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro








ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned.

Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks.

One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
That's the verdict from the Wingnut-in-Chief!
How are your benefits flowing?

Just remember, you are owed a living by people like me who get up at 4am to ensure that we get the job done, that triggers the pay and in turn the tax to be passed to people like you.

If you need more, let me know and I'll consider writing you a personal cheque.

Alternatively you could join society and maybe get some work instead of relying on others!
Well....that'll have lots of people scurrying back to the drawing board rethinking who they thought I was.....

You really are quite dim aren't you?
In comparison to you, I suspect not. As to people scurrying back to drawing boards then recent publicity on the effectiveness of job centre plus suggested a fairly low energy response to benefit claimants, so make your own mind up and in the interim please do continue enlightening us as to why anyone may give two hoots as to who you are and what you do?
Well it's obviously a matter of huge importance to you isn't it? You keep going on about it......or have you not managed to keep a consistent train of thought running from one post to the next, and forgotten?

Thing is, you can only speculate about me, but there's very little room for any doubt about you, and it gets less every time you commit your pudgy little fingers to the keyboard.

AmboGuy says...
10:40am Mon 19 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro


ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro




ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro






ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro








ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned.

Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks.

One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
That's the verdict from the Wingnut-in-Chief!
How are your benefits flowing?

Just remember, you are owed a living by people like me who get up at 4am to ensure that we get the job done, that triggers the pay and in turn the tax to be passed to people like you.

If you need more, let me know and I'll consider writing you a personal cheque.

Alternatively you could join society and maybe get some work instead of relying on others!
Well....that'll have lots of people scurrying back to the drawing board rethinking who they thought I was.....

You really are quite dim aren't you?
In comparison to you, I suspect not. As to people scurrying back to drawing boards then recent publicity on the effectiveness of job centre plus suggested a fairly low energy response to benefit claimants, so make your own mind up and in the interim please do continue enlightening us as to why anyone may give two hoots as to who you are and what you do?
He's a union man. He supported the Labour candidate in the recent elections and lied about being told no rocks were thrown at Mike Wetherley. He's a nasty piece of work.

Cass says...
10:51am Mon 19 Nov 12

Seems there are far too many problems within local housing, business, tourism, jobs, or lack of them to deal with so lets spend tax payers money, without consultation, on a scheme that we can highlight to take the heat off the other worrying issues. Ms Lucas and her followers seem out of touch with the real issues that matter to real people. Shouldn't she be working on issues that real people care about instead.

Andy R says...
12:05pm Mon 19 Nov 12

AmboGuy wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
HJarrs wrote: Usual troll squad responses. Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder? Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do. It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned. Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks. One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
That's the verdict from the Wingnut-in-Chief!
How are your benefits flowing? Just remember, you are owed a living by people like me who get up at 4am to ensure that we get the job done, that triggers the pay and in turn the tax to be passed to people like you. If you need more, let me know and I'll consider writing you a personal cheque. Alternatively you could join society and maybe get some work instead of relying on others!
Well....that'll have lots of people scurrying back to the drawing board rethinking who they thought I was..... You really are quite dim aren't you?
In comparison to you, I suspect not. As to people scurrying back to drawing boards then recent publicity on the effectiveness of job centre plus suggested a fairly low energy response to benefit claimants, so make your own mind up and in the interim please do continue enlightening us as to why anyone may give two hoots as to who you are and what you do?
He's a union man. He supported the Labour candidate in the recent elections and lied about being told no rocks were thrown at Mike Wetherley. He's a nasty piece of work.
Hilarious...utterly hilarious....

It's almost Pavlovian how you can always be relied upon to come trolling into a discussion. I could almost set my watch by it.

Any abuse from you can of course only be treated as high praise.

I suppose that, for as long as you are here, your own planet is getting a rest at least.

Fairfax Sakes says...
12:31pm Mon 19 Nov 12

The usual brilliant headline from the Argus, keep up the good work. Lets get this one going national folks!

TheDrive says...
1:19pm Mon 19 Nov 12

How about London Road Pound, so all the addicts can exchange stolen iphones for heroin more readily?

Beethoven says...
2:41pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Before rubbishing the idea, look at the info on the Bristol Pound which apparently is doing rather well and helping local businesses . I am not saying that this is automatically a good or a bad idea, but just consider it before dismissing it.

fredflintstone1 says...
3:59pm Mon 19 Nov 12

HJarrs wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
Yes, I think so:-


Thou shalt chop down ash, oak and other trees at Wild Park, and so create a paradise for sheep and the shepherd, having driven out the people with thy fencing and destroyed the habitat of some 90 species, at a cost of £120,000.

(That’s real money by the way, not made-up Brighton pounds).
Labour and Conservative policy is different is it?

If I am not wrong, the change of habitat to calcareous grass land has been progressing for a number of years over several administrations.
I'm afraid you're wrong - it's not calcareous chalk grassland that's there, but woodland. Ask the Forestry Commission.That's why the Council had to replant trees in Stanmer Park to make up for those they'd cut down without obtaining permission.

Also, it's worth pointing out that the landscape there has been managed for a number of years, rather than being wiped out on a whim, as is now happening.

As the party in power, the Greens are overseeing the eradication of habitat where their own council survey discovered more than 90 new species previously unrecorded in the area.

This clearance will allow an ever-expanding portion of the park to be fenced off so it can be grazed by sheep, with the administration taking funding that was really intended for farmers as a consequence.

This means that money that would have gone to helping conservation of nature elsewhere has therefore been diverted to destroying much-loved green space in a public park on the urban fringe.

Please do explain how felling trees to make money in this way fits in with Green Party philosophy? Perhaps our MP would like to comment? Surely it's basically the same as clearing the Amazon rainforest for grazing - except the Greens obviously prefer sheep to cattle?

george smith says...
4:32pm Mon 19 Nov 12

fredflintstone1 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote: Usual troll squad responses. Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder? Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do. It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far... 1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday. 2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly. 3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas. 4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim. 5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it. 6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016). 7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous. 8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads. Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
Yes, I think so:- Thou shalt chop down ash, oak and other trees at Wild Park, and so create a paradise for sheep and the shepherd, having driven out the people with thy fencing and destroyed the habitat of some 90 species, at a cost of £120,000. (That’s real money by the way, not made-up Brighton pounds).
Labour and Conservative policy is different is it? If I am not wrong, the change of habitat to calcareous grass land has been progressing for a number of years over several administrations.
I'm afraid you're wrong - it's not calcareous chalk grassland that's there, but woodland. Ask the Forestry Commission.That's why the Council had to replant trees in Stanmer Park to make up for those they'd cut down without obtaining permission. Also, it's worth pointing out that the landscape there has been managed for a number of years, rather than being wiped out on a whim, as is now happening. As the party in power, the Greens are overseeing the eradication of habitat where their own council survey discovered more than 90 new species previously unrecorded in the area. This clearance will allow an ever-expanding portion of the park to be fenced off so it can be grazed by sheep, with the administration taking funding that was really intended for farmers as a consequence. This means that money that would have gone to helping conservation of nature elsewhere has therefore been diverted to destroying much-loved green space in a public park on the urban fringe. Please do explain how felling trees to make money in this way fits in with Green Party philosophy? Perhaps our MP would like to comment? Surely it's basically the same as clearing the Amazon rainforest for grazing - except the Greens obviously prefer sheep to cattle?
I am amazed that the national press who seem to pick up on most daft green policies haven't investigated the outrageous amount of money that is spent on sheep here and the way the trees are being destoyed, especially now there is the ash disease

Maxwell's Ghost says...
5:58pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Thou shalt not send children to a faith school.
Thou shalt not oppose gay marriage.
A few other dictats these Greens are imposing on us.
I haven't felt so dictated to since the bloody Tories were in power under Thatcher.

AmboGuy says...
6:51pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Andy R wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
HJarrs wrote: Usual troll squad responses. Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder? Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do. It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned. Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks. One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
That's the verdict from the Wingnut-in-Chief!
How are your benefits flowing? Just remember, you are owed a living by people like me who get up at 4am to ensure that we get the job done, that triggers the pay and in turn the tax to be passed to people like you. If you need more, let me know and I'll consider writing you a personal cheque. Alternatively you could join society and maybe get some work instead of relying on others!
Well....that'll have lots of people scurrying back to the drawing board rethinking who they thought I was..... You really are quite dim aren't you?
In comparison to you, I suspect not. As to people scurrying back to drawing boards then recent publicity on the effectiveness of job centre plus suggested a fairly low energy response to benefit claimants, so make your own mind up and in the interim please do continue enlightening us as to why anyone may give two hoots as to who you are and what you do?
He's a union man. He supported the Labour candidate in the recent elections and lied about being told no rocks were thrown at Mike Wetherley. He's a nasty piece of work.
Hilarious...utterly hilarious....

It's almost Pavlovian how you can always be relied upon to come trolling into a discussion. I could almost set my watch by it.

Any abuse from you can of course only be treated as high praise.

I suppose that, for as long as you are here, your own planet is getting a rest at least.
Yes and as always we can rely on you to not actually confirm nor deny any of the less savoury facts made about you.

You never did say what you were doing at the university the day Mike Wetherley got attacked.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
7:43pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Andy R wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
HJarrs wrote: Usual troll squad responses. Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder? Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do. It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned. Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks. One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
That's the verdict from the Wingnut-in-Chief!
How are your benefits flowing? Just remember, you are owed a living by people like me who get up at 4am to ensure that we get the job done, that triggers the pay and in turn the tax to be passed to people like you. If you need more, let me know and I'll consider writing you a personal cheque. Alternatively you could join society and maybe get some work instead of relying on others!
Well....that'll have lots of people scurrying back to the drawing board rethinking who they thought I was..... You really are quite dim aren't you?
In comparison to you, I suspect not. As to people scurrying back to drawing boards then recent publicity on the effectiveness of job centre plus suggested a fairly low energy response to benefit claimants, so make your own mind up and in the interim please do continue enlightening us as to why anyone may give two hoots as to who you are and what you do?
He's a union man. He supported the Labour candidate in the recent elections and lied about being told no rocks were thrown at Mike Wetherley. He's a nasty piece of work.
Hilarious...utterly hilarious....

It's almost Pavlovian how you can always be relied upon to come trolling into a discussion. I could almost set my watch by it.

Any abuse from you can of course only be treated as high praise.

I suppose that, for as long as you are here, your own planet is getting a rest at least.
Amboguy - your comments suggest he's a nasty piece of work and suffering from delusions. Its people like him that cost the country hundreds of £millions every year by blocking much needed progress.

His contribution (or lack of) now makes sense.

Jog along Andy R and find some third world country that may in the short term value your narrow minded and inadequate views.

mictrix says...
7:55pm Mon 19 Nov 12

hahahahahahaha lol i can't believe that some people are actually arguing that this might work lol gullible fools you could sell them anything.unbelievabl
e mwaah hahahahaha

Andy R says...
8:52pm Mon 19 Nov 12

AmboGuy wrote:
Andy R wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
HJarrs wrote: Usual troll squad responses. Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder? Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do. It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Your comments make those made by sbiscorrupt seem well thought through and relevant. You would do well to stop posting until you improve your critical thinking and problem solving skills.and can produce even the most basic argument. To be frank your comments are at best ridiculous.
Hmmm... so you are saying that if there are schemes that work to provide a benefit for local people and businesses we shouldn't introduce them? Is that correct?
Hjarrs - For clarity, your assertion was completely incorrect and highlights the weakness in your ability to use two basic skills as mentioned. Your comments consistently portray you as the green parties 'village idiot' of this site and you should consider either stopping posting, or throttling your urge to spout nonsense. If you don't believe the scale of your problem then read a few of your posts.
What an absolute joke. No real argument of any substance so just indulge in (not even very witty) ad hominem attacks. One of the joys of reading this article is to read the succession of witless missives from the usual dinosaurs, sociopaths and wingnuts at the bottom.
Exactly the sort of ridiculous post we should have expected from you. No views beyond getting something for nothing and the world owes you a living, keen for others to provide for you in exactly the way / shape you want it. I am surprised you even bother to post, or does someone in social services do it for you?
That's the verdict from the Wingnut-in-Chief!
How are your benefits flowing? Just remember, you are owed a living by people like me who get up at 4am to ensure that we get the job done, that triggers the pay and in turn the tax to be passed to people like you. If you need more, let me know and I'll consider writing you a personal cheque. Alternatively you could join society and maybe get some work instead of relying on others!
Well....that'll have lots of people scurrying back to the drawing board rethinking who they thought I was..... You really are quite dim aren't you?
In comparison to you, I suspect not. As to people scurrying back to drawing boards then recent publicity on the effectiveness of job centre plus suggested a fairly low energy response to benefit claimants, so make your own mind up and in the interim please do continue enlightening us as to why anyone may give two hoots as to who you are and what you do?
He's a union man. He supported the Labour candidate in the recent elections and lied about being told no rocks were thrown at Mike Wetherley. He's a nasty piece of work.
Hilarious...utterly hilarious....

It's almost Pavlovian how you can always be relied upon to come trolling into a discussion. I could almost set my watch by it.

Any abuse from you can of course only be treated as high praise.

I suppose that, for as long as you are here, your own planet is getting a rest at least.
Yes and as always we can rely on you to not actually confirm nor deny any of the less savoury facts made about you.

You never did say what you were doing at the university the day Mike Wetherley got attacked.
These "less savoury" facts apparently being....that I voted in an election, and I challenged the accuracy of a report in a local paper.....

What a laugh you are...

AmboGuy says...
9:03pm Mon 19 Nov 12

If only that was it, sorry your Labour crony didn't get in. So what were you doing at the university again? You seem to be avoiding the question.

Andy R says...
9:13pm Mon 19 Nov 12

AmboGuy wrote:
If only that was it, sorry your Labour crony didn't get in. So what were you doing at the university again? You seem to be avoiding the question.
The "question" you only just dreamt up.

I'm not under any obligation to answer any questions from some multiple-personality freak on a public website. Try trolling somewhere else.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
9:34pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Andy R wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
If only that was it, sorry your Labour crony didn't get in. So what were you doing at the university again? You seem to be avoiding the question.
The "question" you only just dreamt up.

I'm not under any obligation to answer any questions from some multiple-personality freak on a public website. Try trolling somewhere else.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks

AmboGuy says...
10:50pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Andy R wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
If only that was it, sorry your Labour crony didn't get in. So what were you doing at the university again? You seem to be avoiding the question.
The "question" you only just dreamt up.

I'm not under any obligation to answer any questions from some multiple-personality freak on a public website. Try trolling somewhere else.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks
Of course you're not 'under any obligation' you weirdo, what do you think this is? an interrogation? an episode of The Bill? You know you've been caught lying, we know you've been caught lying. Now if you'll excuse me I think I'll say no more on here without my lawyer present.

Plantpot says...
6:33am Tue 20 Nov 12

Getting back to the topic, I'd be interested to understand why people think a Brighton pound might work? I haven't seen any arguments in favour so far explaining why it would work.....

It's a great shame The Argus doesn't have an ignore function.....

Andy R says...
9:02am Tue 20 Nov 12

AmboGuy wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
AmboGuy wrote: If only that was it, sorry your Labour crony didn't get in. So what were you doing at the university again? You seem to be avoiding the question.
The "question" you only just dreamt up. I'm not under any obligation to answer any questions from some multiple-personality freak on a public website. Try trolling somewhere else.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks
Of course you're not 'under any obligation' you weirdo, what do you think this is? an interrogation? an episode of The Bill? You know you've been caught lying, we know you've been caught lying. Now if you'll excuse me I think I'll say no more on here without my lawyer present.
You "know" I've been lying but suddenly you need a lawyer present? Says it all really.....

Calling someone a liar in a public forum is of course highly actionable, but then I'd have to give a ****.

sbiscorrupt says...
9:32am Tue 20 Nov 12

Plantpot wrote:
Getting back to the topic, I'd be interested to understand why people think a Brighton pound might work? I haven't seen any arguments in favour so far explaining why it would work.....

It's a great shame The Argus doesn't have an ignore function.....
You may find this interesting...

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/uk/2012/nov/20
/mayor-salary-bristo
l-pounds

"Of his (mayor's) salary – currently £51,000, though the figure could change – Ferguson said he would take it in Bristol pounds, a currency introduced this year and proving a success".

Someone seems to believe in the Bristol project...maybe if it becomes a runner here, politicians might like to demonstrate their faith in a Brighton pound similarly?

AmboGuy says...
9:42am Tue 20 Nov 12

Andy R wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
AmboGuy wrote: If only that was it, sorry your Labour crony didn't get in. So what were you doing at the university again? You seem to be avoiding the question.
The "question" you only just dreamt up. I'm not under any obligation to answer any questions from some multiple-personality freak on a public website. Try trolling somewhere else.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks
Of course you're not 'under any obligation' you weirdo, what do you think this is? an interrogation? an episode of The Bill? You know you've been caught lying, we know you've been caught lying. Now if you'll excuse me I think I'll say no more on here without my lawyer present.
You "know" I've been lying but suddenly you need a lawyer present? Says it all really.....

Calling someone a liar in a public forum is of course highly actionable, but then I'd have to give a ****.
Oh dear. My lawyer comment was sarcasm Andy, you're really not getting this are you?

Well I look forward to the repercussions of my 'highly actionable' comments and I'll be waiting for my arrest warrant to be issued and the knock on the door.

Now maybe you should invoke your right to silence and respond 'No comment' as you're just making a fool of yourself now.

ruberducker says...
1:39pm Tue 20 Nov 12

the btn pound seems to have about as much value as our elected idiots that thought of it.

ARealBessie says...
3:31pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Well, thanks to the Argus's sensational front page spread on the delights of buying drugs off Silkroad, I suspect the Brighton Pound will face stiff competition from Bitcoin.

Joshiman says...
7:08pm Tue 20 Nov 12

What a stupid idea.Waste of taxpayers monies.Why dont you just adopt the Euro.It will go the same way.I really cannot comprehend this ludicrous idea.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
7:22pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Andy R wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Andy R wrote:
AmboGuy wrote: If only that was it, sorry your Labour crony didn't get in. So what were you doing at the university again? You seem to be avoiding the question.
The "question" you only just dreamt up. I'm not under any obligation to answer any questions from some multiple-personality freak on a public website. Try trolling somewhere else.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks
Of course you're not 'under any obligation' you weirdo, what do you think this is? an interrogation? an episode of The Bill? You know you've been caught lying, we know you've been caught lying. Now if you'll excuse me I think I'll say no more on here without my lawyer present.
You "know" I've been lying but suddenly you need a lawyer present? Says it all really.....

Calling someone a liar in a public forum is of course highly actionable, but then I'd have to give a ****.
What a strange response

BornInBrighton1968 says...
9:08am Wed 21 Nov 12

Surely there must be some legal mechanism in which the Greens can be removed from power (due to their sheer incompetence), and government administrators take over the running of Brighton until a by-election can be called?

sbiscorrupt says...
10:41am Wed 21 Nov 12

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
Surely there must be some legal mechanism in which the Greens can be removed from power (due to their sheer incompetence), and government administrators take over the running of Brighton until a by-election can be called?
That'll be a dictatorship you're after then...lol

BornInBrighton1968 says...
12:08pm Wed 21 Nov 12

How would it be a dictatorship if a by-election is called?

Do try and keep up....

BornInBrighton1968 says...
12:09pm Wed 21 Nov 12

sbiscorrupt wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
Surely there must be some legal mechanism in which the Greens can be removed from power (due to their sheer incompetence), and government administrators take over the running of Brighton until a by-election can be called?
That'll be a dictatorship you're after then...lol
How would it be a dictatorship if a by-election is called?

Do try and keep up....

sbiscorrupt says...
12:15pm Wed 21 Nov 12

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
Surely there must be some legal mechanism in which the Greens can be removed from power (due to their sheer incompetence), and government administrators take over the running of Brighton until a by-election can be called?
That'll be a dictatorship you're after then...lol
How would it be a dictatorship if a by-election is called?

Do try and keep up....
How would it be a dictatorship?

How about arbitrary removal of powers given to an elected body without due process...

And what would be the 'legal' definition of incompetence perchance?

Mind you - you may have just displayed the perfect example of 'sheer incompetence'...lol

AmboGuy says...
12:55pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Well it looks like Andy actually has invoked his right to silence. Let's just hope he makes this a permanent thing!

BornInBrighton1968 says...
4:34pm Wed 21 Nov 12

sbiscorrupt wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
Surely there must be some legal mechanism in which the Greens can be removed from power (due to their sheer incompetence), and government administrators take over the running of Brighton until a by-election can be called?
That'll be a dictatorship you're after then...lol
How would it be a dictatorship if a by-election is called?

Do try and keep up....
How would it be a dictatorship?

How about arbitrary removal of powers given to an elected body without due process...

And what would be the 'legal' definition of incompetence perchance?

Mind you - you may have just displayed the perfect example of 'sheer incompetence'...lol
Good Lord, you're just not very bright, are you?

trystero says...
11:12pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Also will the Greens dictate which shops we are allowed to trade with. Will shops run by Christians or meat eaters be banned by Ben Duncan, and shops which sell non Fair Trade or energy heavy goods also be banned.
This lot have become such mini dictators about our llifestyles, we will probably have to pay a Green pound to spend a penny.
Even then they will probably want to check that we are using recycled toilet paper.
They seem to be getting crazier. Whatever happened to Imelda Marcos.
The shoes.... They rotted.... (It must be true - it was in the 'Daily Mail'):

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2207353/Imelda-Marco
s-legendary-3-000-pl
us-shoe-collection-d
estroyed-termites-fl
oods-neglect.html

trystero says...
11:19pm Wed 21 Nov 12

General Dreedle wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Usual troll squad responses.

Had this been Kirby or Weatherley then there would not been a peep. Is it an organised campaign I wonder?

Are there schemes that work? If the answer is yes, then can they be applied to B&H successfully? If yes then we should explore doing so. If no is the answer to the above then we should not proceed. That is the grown up thing to do.

It is clear that most of the above will not join in, that is not a problem as there are many that will support a scheme if it can be demonstrated to work, particularly if it supports our local shops and suppliers.
Kirby and Weatherly would not propose such nonsense. Its another example of the Greens fiddling whilst Rome burns. They are getting close to finalising their ten commandments for how we should live our lives. Let's see what have we had so far...
1. Thou shalt not eat meet on Monday.
2. Thou shall not play the National lottery for tis bad for the working class who cannot be trusted to spend their money responsibly.
3. Thou shalt not burn yuletide logs at the time formally known as Christmas.
4. Thou shalt not refer to each other as Mr or Mrs for thou art gender neutral and it is an abomination to two citizens and the Lord Phelim.
5. Thou shalt not use thy car unless thou is rich and can afford to park it.
6. Thou shalt not attend Farmer's Markets for they are the crucibles of speciesism a discrimination akin to racism and homophobia (this commandment to be phased in by 2016).
7. Thou shalt not use money save for the Brighton Pound and otherwise return to the barter system for Caroline delights in clean exchanges amongst the self-rightous.
8. Thou shalt ride thy bike the wrong way down one-way streets for the laws of the road do not apply to thou and Jason shall rise up and apply his laws to his people and smite the petrolheads.

Two more to go. Or have I missed anything?
1. "meet on Monday";
2. "thou shall";
3. "formally";
6. "farmer's".

Personally, I blame the teachers. Especially the Latin teachers. At the public (sic.) school wot General Dreedle went to.

sbiscorrupt says...
5:51am Thu 22 Nov 12

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
Surely there must be some legal mechanism in which the Greens can be removed from power (due to their sheer incompetence), and government administrators take over the running of Brighton until a by-election can be called?
That'll be a dictatorship you're after then...lol
How would it be a dictatorship if a by-election is called?

Do try and keep up....
How would it be a dictatorship?

How about arbitrary removal of powers given to an elected body without due process...

And what would be the 'legal' definition of incompetence perchance?

Mind you - you may have just displayed the perfect example of 'sheer incompetence'...lol
Good Lord, you're just not very bright, are you?
Are you sure you shouldn't have called yourself BorninBrightonyester
day?

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
8:21pm Thu 22 Nov 12

sbiscorrupt wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
Surely there must be some legal mechanism in which the Greens can be removed from power (due to their sheer incompetence), and government administrators take over the running of Brighton until a by-election can be called?
That'll be a dictatorship you're after then...lol
How would it be a dictatorship if a by-election is called?

Do try and keep up....
How would it be a dictatorship?

How about arbitrary removal of powers given to an elected body without due process...

And what would be the 'legal' definition of incompetence perchance?

Mind you - you may have just displayed the perfect example of 'sheer incompetence'...lol
Good Lord, you're just not very bright, are you?
Are you sure you shouldn't have called yourself BorninBrightonyester

day?
What a waste...............


Letting people like you ruin the thinking on threads like this.

Palace of Wisdom says...
12:21pm Fri 23 Nov 12

What an absolutely absurd idea. The green's showing once again how clueless they are. Since when did Brighton become a communist state?

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