Greens accused of ‘rowing back’ on Albion agreement (From The Argus)

The greens have their own agenda, they are not capable of "running", Brighton and Hove and they will be thrown out by the real parties, when the "novelty" factor where's even thinner. They are damaging Brightons economy and ruining lives.

No surprises, the Greens have been anti-Albion from the start (witness the anti-stadium posts from their supporters on here). They're certainly not going to miss an opportunity to put the boot in.

As a Labour supporter I find it interesting that Mr Kitkat is hiding behind the old 'let market forces decide the price' argument. More proof that,despite what some say, the Greens are more right-wing than the Tories, and scratch the surface of any Green supporter and you'll find a reactionary nasty, anti-working class Tory underneath.

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit wrote:
No surprises, the Greens have been anti-Albion from the start (witness the anti-stadium posts from their supporters on here). They're certainly not going to miss an opportunity to put the boot in.

As a Labour supporter I find it interesting that Mr Kitkat is hiding behind the old 'let market forces decide the price' argument. More proof that,despite what some say, the Greens are more right-wing than the Tories, and scratch the surface of any Green supporter and you'll find a reactionary nasty, anti-working class Tory underneath.

Hmm. No wild generalisations here eh?

Of course Blairite Labour are well known for their hostility to market forces, aren't they?

You should be attacking the hopelessness of the last Tory admin of the city, which couldn't (or wouldn't) minute decisions properly. Not indulging in this kind of sectarian rubbish. I write not as a Green partisan but someone who wouldn't mind having a real Labour party back. There are some signs that might be happening, but not in your post.

time for caroline lucas to sort them out!

So Kitkat WAS lying in his tweets a few months ago !!!!!!! So not only is he useless, he's a liar to boot.

Its strange that the Greens want the land to go for the best price yet are handing over a whole stretch of the Lewes Road to the bus company, which is a monopoly, privately owned, profit making company which also receives subsidies from the council.
Where is the equality in that?

Sad but probably legally correct, the council would need to get the most it can, it is up to B&HA to come up with the goods and therefore repay every council tax payer and not just benefit those who support the club.

Was the bridge replaced anywhere else, since when has it been PC to replace a community centre with a car park

Hopefully the citizens of B&H can make plenty of cash out of this. Of course, who will decide which scheme is best placed to go on this land? My guess would be that even if it turned out there was the equivalent of the North Sea oil reserves under the land, the Albion will still be given the nod, even if the cheapest bid.

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Its strange that the Greens want the land to go for the best price yet are handing over a whole stretch of the Lewes Road to the bus company, which is a monopoly, privately owned, profit making company which also receives subsidies from the council.
Where is the equality in that?

Even stranger they didn't fight to stop the stadium being built in the first place.

I think Mr Kitcat needs to take a long break! :)

''Rowed back'' ?!?
I presume this is more corporate b/s speak from the U.S. - or maybe just councillors (wrongly) trying to make themselves sound more business-like ''going forward''.

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Its strange that the Greens want the land to go for the best price yet are handing over a whole stretch of the Lewes Road to the bus company, which is a monopoly, privately owned, profit making company which also receives subsidies from the council.
Where is the equality in that?

Indeed good sir. Good post.

Plantpot wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Its strange that the Greens want the land to go for the best price yet are handing over a whole stretch of the Lewes Road to the bus company, which is a monopoly, privately owned, profit making company which also receives subsidies from the council.
Where is the equality in that?

Even stranger they didn't fight to stop the stadium being built in the first place.

That will be because they supported the development ! You and your conspiracy theories !!!!

Why don't you swallow your pride and go to a match. You'll see 25k people enjoying themselves, you'll see how a muddy unused field can be turned into something useful for the city, you'll see the hundreds of jobs that have been created, you'll see how much income the club are pulling into the city during these depressed times. You'll need to remove that massive chip from your shoulder first though as chips aren't allowed at the Amex !

Surprise surprise. The Greens don’t want the Albion to have this piece of land. Even though there was a firm gentleman’s agreement with the previous city council. Who the heck voted for these tree hugging, sandal wearing idiots in the first place? Oh yes I forgot, all those crusty squatters and other down and outs who could do with a wash and who are not originally from Brighton and Hove in any case. Typical Greens. Typical killjoys.

Don't worry football fans Jason Kitekat is on the case.

Oh, in other words bye-bye football in Brighton.

Football represents EVERYTHING The snot Greens hate.

1. Excitement
2. Freedoms
3. Meat pies
4. Competition
5. Fun
6. Male dominance
7. Community Collectivism

They want us all to hand our money to Albanian goat herders and sell our cars so Red Indians in Arizona can reclaim their land.

The sooner we get these foul clowns out of office, the better.

I would guess around 50,000 different brighton fans from the area have visited the stadium to support the Albion over the past 18 months so the Greens are very likely to guarantee significant seat losses at future elections by pursuing an anti Albion agenda....turkeys voting for Xmas

Suppose they could build a travellers site on the land for all the non tax paying people to use... absolutely useless they couldnt run a **** up in a brewery!

chrisso wrote:
''Rowed back'' ?!?
I presume this is more corporate b/s speak from the U.S. - or maybe just councillors (wrongly) trying to make themselves sound more business-like ''going forward''.

Just a rowers alternative to the cyclists back pedalling.

chrisso wrote:
''Rowed back'' ?!?
I presume this is more corporate b/s speak from the U.S. - or maybe just councillors (wrongly) trying to make themselves sound more business-like ''going forward''.

Just a rowers alternative to the cyclists back pedalling.

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit wrote:
No surprises, the Greens have been anti-Albion from the start (witness the anti-stadium posts from their supporters on here). They're certainly not going to miss an opportunity to put the boot in.

As a Labour supporter I find it interesting that Mr Kitkat is hiding behind the old 'let market forces decide the price' argument. More proof that,despite what some say, the Greens are more right-wing than the Tories, and scratch the surface of any Green supporter and you'll find a reactionary nasty, anti-working class Tory underneath.

This sounds like the vacuous bore that is Warren Morgan talking total ****.

Still no need for a good lie to get in the way of the truth.

Good old Maxwell's Ghost.

The Argus Comment's Section most tedious bore creating his own fantasies.

Brilliant.

Smartbloke wrote:
Good old Maxwell's Ghost.

The Argus Comment's Section most tedious bore creating his own fantasies.

Brilliant.

Sorry, but Maxwell's Ghost is quite right. It's not just the Lewes Road though, it's London Road, Western Road, the A259 coast road etc - right through the city.

Car-drivers are denied access to vast swathes of these roads in order to subsidise a private company, without any attempt to get this reflected commercially in the fare pricing.

The bus company made an operating profit of £5,878,000 in 2010 and enjoys a virtual monopoly on bus services in the city.

It's time that the council reviewed this situation and the huge subsidy it provides by creating bus lanes, when it comes to developing a more sustainable transport policy.

B&H Buses should be forced to lower their fares on routes where they use bus lanes, thereby encouraging more people to use buses.

fredflintstone1 wrote:

Smartbloke wrote:
Good old Maxwell's Ghost.

The Argus Comment's Section most tedious bore creating his own fantasies.

Brilliant.

Sorry, but Maxwell's Ghost is quite right. It's not just the Lewes Road though, it's London Road, Western Road, the A259 coast road etc - right through the city.

Car-drivers are denied access to vast swathes of these roads in order to subsidise a private company, without any attempt to get this reflected commercially in the fare pricing.

The bus company made an operating profit of £5,878,000 in 2010 and enjoys a virtual monopoly on bus services in the city.

It's time that the council reviewed this situation and the huge subsidy it provides by creating bus lanes, when it comes to developing a more sustainable transport policy.

B&H Buses should be forced to lower their fares on routes where they use bus lanes, thereby encouraging more people to use buses.

That's a great idea. Then people would be able to afford them. They save on fuel due to bus lanes. Lets cut their subsidies or force them to reduce prices.

Fight_Back wrote:

Plantpot wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Its strange that the Greens want the land to go for the best price yet are handing over a whole stretch of the Lewes Road to the bus company, which is a monopoly, privately owned, profit making company which also receives subsidies from the council.
Where is the equality in that?

Even stranger they didn't fight to stop the stadium being built in the first place.

That will be because they supported the development ! You and your conspiracy theories !!!!

Why don't you swallow your pride and go to a match. You'll see 25k people enjoying themselves, you'll see how a muddy unused field can be turned into something useful for the city, you'll see the hundreds of jobs that have been created, you'll see how much income the club are pulling into the city during these depressed times. You'll need to remove that massive chip from your shoulder first though as chips aren't allowed at the Amex !

The Greens were conspicuous by their keeping quiet about the whole thing. I certainly don't remember them being in favour at all.

I will never set foot in the stadium, not even for the rugby. I also find some of your claims rather far fetched. In controversial planning decisions such as this, it would be helpful if the claims made by the applicant in order to get the thing built were subject to independent scrutiny some time after the event. Of course, this won't happen.

Algeria Touchshriek wrote:
Don't worry football fans Jason Kitekat is on the case.

Oh, in other words bye-bye football in Brighton.

Football represents EVERYTHING The snot Greens hate.

1. Excitement
2. Freedoms
3. Meat pies
4. Competition
5. Fun
6. Male dominance
7. Community Collectivism

They want us all to hand our money to Albanian goat herders and sell our cars so Red Indians in Arizona can reclaim their land.

The sooner we get these foul clowns out of office, the better.

I think much of that is true except points 1 & 7. Soccer is unbearably repetitive and tedious, especially as the whistle seems to blow at the slightest contact, which given the nature of the game is unavoidable. I don't know about community collectivism either. Still, when Crystal Palace come to town we'll see just how much collectivism is in evidence I suppose, especially if last year is anything to go by.

Algeria Touchshriek wrote:
Don't worry football fans Jason Kitekat is on the case.

Oh, in other words bye-bye football in Brighton.

Football represents EVERYTHING The snot Greens hate.

1. Excitement
2. Freedoms
3. Meat pies
4. Competition
5. Fun
6. Male dominance
7. Community Collectivism

They want us all to hand our money to Albanian goat herders and sell our cars so Red Indians in Arizona can reclaim their land.

The sooner we get these foul clowns out of office, the better.

It's quite possible to like football and be broadly supportive of the Greens. And I don't recognise your killjoy description from the Greens I know.

As for 'male dominance', is that really what you mean? Women in kitchen only? Which century are you living in?

The party that has done the most damage to football are the Tories. It was they who insisted on all-seater stadiums after Hillsborough, rather than have a proper enquiry into what happened. The result has been to drive ticket prices through the roof, so that it's now actually cheaper to go to more Tory-friendly events like opera than it is to see your local football team. I go about once a year these days.

As for the planning application, these things shouldn't be done by 'gentleman's agreements' - it should be out the open. That's democracy - stuff done behind closed doors smacks of municipal corruption.

Sounds like great news. Anything that stops even more cars clogging up the road on match days is a good thing. Wonder where I can enter my bid for the land?