No action after St George's Day violence in Brighton

Violence broke out at the March for England in April

Violence broke out at the March for England in April

First published in News by , Crime reporter

No one has been prosecuted over the violent St George’s Day protest clashes in Brighton.

Sussex Police identified a series of suspects following witness appeals in The Argus after trouble flared on April 22 when March for England protestors met with Unite Against Fascism counter-demonstrators.

Bottles and other missiles were thrown at police and marchers in Queen’s Road and Church Street.

Now the force has admitted while officers managed to identify some of those they believed had committed offences, there was not enough evidence to prosecute them.

One man who was arrested on suspicion of using threatening behaviour on the day of the protests has now had the case against him dropped.

Alexander Weir, of Gratwicke Road, Worthing, had the charge against him discontinued at Brighton Magistrates’ Court on November 8 after the Crown Prosecution Service abandoned the prosecution.

A Sussex Police spokesman said: “Several of the five people whose photographs were published in May have been traced but there was insufficient evidence to enable them to be prosecuted.”

March for England earlier this month revealed it was planning a repeat event in the city for St George’s Day next year.

A spokesman for Unite Against Fascism said: “We firmly believe that the wider public in Brighton oppose the presence of a racist march in our city, and wish to demonstrate against it.

“It is our commitment to do all we can to ensure Brightonians can protest safely without threat of violence or arrest from the far-right or the police, which was the case for the majority of people on April 22.

“We hope that the police will now join us in this commitment.”

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3:53pm Mon 19 Nov 12

outsidethewhale says...

'Now the force has admitted while officers managed to identify some of those they believed had committed offences, there was not enough evidence to prosecute them.'
As these individuals were identified with photographs, issued by the police and re-published by the Argus at the time, to use this phrase which implies guilt is potentially libellous. hundreds of police were present at the event, and many police cameras were constantly aimed at protesters, so lack of evidence very much points to lack of guilt, as does UK law - innocent until proven guilty.
Anyone wishing to see real evidence of violence needs to look ay youtube, where there is plentiful footage of police attacking peaceful protesters at this event. It was to distract from it own violence that the force hyped up its own accusations of violence against protesters. Perhaps the argus should be taking the side of Brightonians, rather than the police?
'Now the force has admitted while officers managed to identify some of those they believed had committed offences, there was not enough evidence to prosecute them.' As these individuals were identified with photographs, issued by the police and re-published by the Argus at the time, to use this phrase which implies guilt is potentially libellous. hundreds of police were present at the event, and many police cameras were constantly aimed at protesters, so lack of evidence very much points to lack of guilt, as does UK law - innocent until proven guilty. Anyone wishing to see real evidence of violence needs to look ay youtube, where there is plentiful footage of police attacking peaceful protesters at this event. It was to distract from it own violence that the force hyped up its own accusations of violence against protesters. Perhaps the argus should be taking the side of Brightonians, rather than the police? outsidethewhale
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5:26pm Mon 19 Nov 12

inadaptado says...

I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.
I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle. inadaptado
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5:28pm Mon 19 Nov 12

sbiscorrupt says...

Usual plod tactic...charge whoever happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, then let them sweat until the last minute before the charges are dropped...

Of course its taxpayers money that is being wasted, but hey ho - they don't care!
Usual plod tactic...charge whoever happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, then let them sweat until the last minute before the charges are dropped... Of course its taxpayers money that is being wasted, but hey ho - they don't care! sbiscorrupt
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5:52pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Andy R says...

inadaptado wrote:
I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.
It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition.

Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled.

This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.
[quote][p][bold]inadaptado[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.[/p][/quote]It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition. Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled. This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce. Andy R
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6:37pm Mon 19 Nov 12

JHunty says...

Andy R wrote:
inadaptado wrote:
I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.
It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition.

Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled.

This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.
Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism.

The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest.

You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them.

We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime.

Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inadaptado[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.[/p][/quote]It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition. Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled. This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.[/p][/quote]Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism. The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest. You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them. We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime. Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument. JHunty
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6:53pm Mon 19 Nov 12

PorkBoat says...

"It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton,...."

Totally agree. Whenever the UAF turn up anywhere, they spark off trouble.
"It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton,...." Totally agree. Whenever the UAF turn up anywhere, they spark off trouble. PorkBoat
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6:57pm Mon 19 Nov 12

mimseycal says...

All extremists are a blot on the landscape.
All extremists are a blot on the landscape. mimseycal
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7:24pm Mon 19 Nov 12

theleftygiraffe says...

The only ones who should be charged are the police officers who baton-charged a group of protesters who were simply standing in the road, followed by throwing people, including an elderly man that I saw myself, to the floor to arrest them for also standing there.

The whole day was a bit of a fail for SusPo, seeing as they didn't manage to stop any of the violence that occurred from any of the parties involved.

Either let the EDL/MfE rabble march and contain them the whole way or ban their ridiculous group, just don't attack/kettle people in the street who are simply trying to oppose fascism.
The only ones who should be charged are the police officers who baton-charged a group of protesters who were simply standing in the road, followed by throwing people, including an elderly man that I saw myself, to the floor to arrest them for also standing there. The whole day was a bit of a fail for SusPo, seeing as they didn't manage to stop any of the violence that occurred from any of the parties involved. Either let the EDL/MfE rabble march and contain them the whole way or ban their ridiculous group, just don't attack/kettle people in the street who are simply trying to oppose fascism. theleftygiraffe
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8:08pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

JHunty wrote:
Andy R wrote:
inadaptado wrote:
I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.
It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition.

Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled.

This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.
Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism.

The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest.

You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them.

We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime.

Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.
Why is it that this Andy R character is seemingly the person that everyone singles out on this site.

My guess is that its based on his obvious lack of intellect and coherence, that manifests itself in obnoxious and ludicrous comments, probably triggered by a massive chip on his shoulder.

How we all laugh at people like Andy R!
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inadaptado[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.[/p][/quote]It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition. Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled. This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.[/p][/quote]Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism. The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest. You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them. We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime. Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.[/p][/quote]Why is it that this Andy R character is seemingly the person that everyone singles out on this site. My guess is that its based on his obvious lack of intellect and coherence, that manifests itself in obnoxious and ludicrous comments, probably triggered by a massive chip on his shoulder. How we all laugh at people like Andy R! Somethingsarejustwrong
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8:12pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Terry K says...

It's the left who are facists, trying to deny freedom of movement and freedom of speech, soap no hope continue to indoctrinate young students into English hating ways, it's a disgrace to those that fell in the war's, if only they had known!.
It's the left who are facists, trying to deny freedom of movement and freedom of speech, soap no hope continue to indoctrinate young students into English hating ways, it's a disgrace to those that fell in the war's, if only they had known!. Terry K
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8:29pm Mon 19 Nov 12

inadaptado says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
JHunty wrote:
Andy R wrote:
inadaptado wrote:
I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.
It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition.

Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled.

This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.
Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism.

The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest.

You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them.

We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime.

Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.
Why is it that this Andy R character is seemingly the person that everyone singles out on this site.

My guess is that its based on his obvious lack of intellect and coherence, that manifests itself in obnoxious and ludicrous comments, probably triggered by a massive chip on his shoulder.

How we all laugh at people like Andy R!
Now I'm even more confused than before. Perhaps the Argus is as well, hence the ambiguous article. I think they should stop fighting their yellow nature once and for all and embrace what they are destined to become: the southern Daily Mail.
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inadaptado[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.[/p][/quote]It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition. Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled. This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.[/p][/quote]Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism. The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest. You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them. We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime. Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.[/p][/quote]Why is it that this Andy R character is seemingly the person that everyone singles out on this site. My guess is that its based on his obvious lack of intellect and coherence, that manifests itself in obnoxious and ludicrous comments, probably triggered by a massive chip on his shoulder. How we all laugh at people like Andy R![/p][/quote]Now I'm even more confused than before. Perhaps the Argus is as well, hence the ambiguous article. I think they should stop fighting their yellow nature once and for all and embrace what they are destined to become: the southern Daily Mail. inadaptado
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8:38pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Andy R says...

JHunty wrote:
Andy R wrote:
inadaptado wrote:
I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.
It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition.

Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled.

This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.
Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism.

The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest.

You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them.

We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime.

Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.
Whatever....Sussex Police are the ones who have decided that they don't have any evidence, despite there being literally thousands of witnesses on the day.

But hey, if you've got some evidence I'm sure that they'd love to have someone really reliable like you to put on the stand.



Then again...........
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inadaptado[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.[/p][/quote]It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition. Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled. This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.[/p][/quote]Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism. The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest. You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them. We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime. Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.[/p][/quote]Whatever....Sussex Police are the ones who have decided that they don't have any evidence, despite there being literally thousands of witnesses on the day. But hey, if you've got some evidence I'm sure that they'd love to have someone really reliable like you to put on the stand. Then again........... Andy R
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9:18pm Mon 19 Nov 12

AmboGuy says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
JHunty wrote:
Andy R wrote:
inadaptado wrote:
I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.
It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition.

Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled.

This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.
Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism.

The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest.

You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them.

We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime.

Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.
Why is it that this Andy R character is seemingly the person that everyone singles out on this site.

My guess is that its based on his obvious lack of intellect and coherence, that manifests itself in obnoxious and ludicrous comments, probably triggered by a massive chip on his shoulder.

How we all laugh at people like Andy R!
Correct. He generally doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the box and so has become something of a figure of fun! He's been caught out telling porkies in the past which hasn't exactly endeared him to a lot of other people on this forum.
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inadaptado[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.[/p][/quote]It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition. Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled. This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.[/p][/quote]Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism. The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest. You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them. We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime. Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.[/p][/quote]Why is it that this Andy R character is seemingly the person that everyone singles out on this site. My guess is that its based on his obvious lack of intellect and coherence, that manifests itself in obnoxious and ludicrous comments, probably triggered by a massive chip on his shoulder. How we all laugh at people like Andy R![/p][/quote]Correct. He generally doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the box and so has become something of a figure of fun! He's been caught out telling porkies in the past which hasn't exactly endeared him to a lot of other people on this forum. AmboGuy
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9:23pm Mon 19 Nov 12

HJarrs says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
JHunty wrote:
Andy R wrote:
inadaptado wrote:
I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.
It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition.

Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled.

This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.
Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism.

The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest.

You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them.

We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime.

Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.
Why is it that this Andy R character is seemingly the person that everyone singles out on this site.

My guess is that its based on his obvious lack of intellect and coherence, that manifests itself in obnoxious and ludicrous comments, probably triggered by a massive chip on his shoulder.

How we all laugh at people like Andy R!
Well, shows what you know, yesterday you had him on benefits!
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inadaptado[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.[/p][/quote]It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition. Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled. This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.[/p][/quote]Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism. The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest. You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them. We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime. Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.[/p][/quote]Why is it that this Andy R character is seemingly the person that everyone singles out on this site. My guess is that its based on his obvious lack of intellect and coherence, that manifests itself in obnoxious and ludicrous comments, probably triggered by a massive chip on his shoulder. How we all laugh at people like Andy R![/p][/quote]Well, shows what you know, yesterday you had him on benefits! HJarrs
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9:38pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
JHunty wrote:
Andy R wrote:
inadaptado wrote:
I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.
It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition.

Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled.

This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.
Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism.

The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest.

You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them.

We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime.

Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.
Why is it that this Andy R character is seemingly the person that everyone singles out on this site.

My guess is that its based on his obvious lack of intellect and coherence, that manifests itself in obnoxious and ludicrous comments, probably triggered by a massive chip on his shoulder.

How we all laugh at people like Andy R!
Well, shows what you know, yesterday you had him on benefits!
We also laugh out loud and very often at people like Hjarrs, the green parties very own 'village idiot' and defender of all things wrong in the city.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inadaptado[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry, I don't get it. What's the point of this article? You said it, there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone. Do you want to jail people at random just to set an example? Or are you saying the police did a lousy job gathering evidence? And if this was yet another attack to the council (you know, because the Greens seem to be the only party in the world that allows protests), then I'm afraid you were way too subtle.[/p][/quote]It's quite simple really. Sussex Police made a horrendous error of judgement in allowing an unwanted fascist rabble march through Brighton, handled the whole situation incredibly poorly on the day, and then tried to blame and smear the local opposition. Now, months later, after a load of hype involving photos of "suspects" being melodramatically published in the Argus, the whole thing has unravelled. This is all too typical of how Sussex Police deal with political protest in Brighton and there needs to be a serious enquiry into this latest farce.[/p][/quote]Total fantasy as usual from the public sector union worker who hates other public sector workers and who is trying to reintroduce a totalitarian regime responsible for more deaths than facism. The UAF and Smashedo used violence to try and prevent people from exercising their democratic right to protest. You can try and rewrite history but it just shows you are too ashamed of the tactics used to take ownership of them. We live in a democracy where people have rights, it's not up to tiny groups of extremists to decide who has rights and who doesn't, the fact that Andy R thinks it is, gives you a glimpse of the horrors that would unfold were he to get his way and to over throw our democracy with his communist regime. Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to beat them up. If that's your best response to their views, you automatically lose the argument.[/p][/quote]Why is it that this Andy R character is seemingly the person that everyone singles out on this site. My guess is that its based on his obvious lack of intellect and coherence, that manifests itself in obnoxious and ludicrous comments, probably triggered by a massive chip on his shoulder. How we all laugh at people like Andy R![/p][/quote]Well, shows what you know, yesterday you had him on benefits![/p][/quote]We also laugh out loud and very often at people like Hjarrs, the green parties very own 'village idiot' and defender of all things wrong in the city. Somethingsarejustwrong
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