Councils send bailiffs in every 15 minutes

First published in News by

A bailiff bangs on a door to recover council debts at least once every 15 minutes in Sussex.

Councils across Sussex used bailiffs on 35,000 occasions in the last financial year as they chased up unpaid council tax, car parking fines and other unpaid bills.

Figures obtained by The Argus show that councils used bailiffs to chase at least £7.5 million in unpaid fines and taxes.

Charities working with people on low incomes say they fear that the use of bailiffs could increase even more in April next year when Government cuts to benefits take effect.

The responses from ten county, city and borough councils across the county show that bailiffs were used to pursue unpaid business rates of more than £20,000 and for unpaid parking tickets of just £5.

Councils made use of bailiffs on more than 500 more occasions than the previous financial year and pursued debts totalling almost £1 million more.

Brighton and Hove City Council used bailiffs almost 15,000 times in 2011/12 – an average of 40 a day.

Two thirds of these were used to pursue unpaid parking tickets compared to just 23 parking fines chased up by Chichester District Council over the same period.

Unpaid bills

Lewes District Council sent bailiffs to businesses owing more than £20,000 in business rates on five occasions since 2008, but failed to recover a single penny.

Eastbourne Borough Council used bailiffs to recover a range of unpaid bills including the boarding fees of stray dogs and unpaid hire fees for sports pitches and halls.

Tony Greenstein from the Brighton Unemployed Centre said: “I think councils are sending in the bailiffs first and asking questions later which causes considerable distress for people.

“It’s going to get much, much worse come April.

“In many cases it’s uneconomical for the council because if it sends bailiffs in to people who can’t pay, then it’s the council that have to pay and bailiffs don’t come cheap.”

He added that he advised visitors to the centre not to allow bailiffs into their home as they had no legal right of entry.

Anne Duggan, money adviser at the Citizens Advice Bureau in Hove, said she was also concerned that there could be a lot more who will be liable in April, but added: “I don’t know what else the council can do because our services have to be paid for.”

A Brighton and Hove City Council spokesman said if a resident failed to pay their council tax, officials would send a bill, then a reminder, a summons and finally a Liability Order notification letter.

He added sending bailiffs was a “last resort” but the council has “a duty to residents who pay their council tax and parking fines to pursue residents who do not”.

A Chichester District Council spokeswoman said: “The use of bailiffs is one of a number of enforcement options we use.”

See the latest news headlines from The Argus:

More news from The Argus

Follow @brightonargus

The Argus: Daily Echo on Facebook - facebook.com/southerndailyecho Like us on Facebook

The Argus: Google+ Add us to your circles on Google+

Comments (34)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

2:06pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Algeria Touchshriek says...

If they knocked on my door every 15 minutes I'll take the bloomer knocker off. Ruddy cheek.
If they knocked on my door every 15 minutes I'll take the bloomer knocker off. Ruddy cheek. Algeria Touchshriek
  • Score: 0

2:21pm Thu 22 Nov 12

worthingite says...

How much does it cost to send the bailiff in each time,they must be on a good screw then,the fee should be in the report to give us an idea of the way the council spend our money surely?
How much does it cost to send the bailiff in each time,they must be on a good screw then,the fee should be in the report to give us an idea of the way the council spend our money surely? worthingite
  • Score: 0

3:29pm Thu 22 Nov 12

pjwilk says...

Its OK for the Council they just pay their bills with taxpayers money,a permanant source of income and expenses.(unearned non productive income)
Its OK for the Council they just pay their bills with taxpayers money,a permanant source of income and expenses.(unearned non productive income) pjwilk
  • Score: 1

3:33pm Thu 22 Nov 12

funkyyoyo says...

the council has a duty bla bla bla,the council also has a duty to paint legally enforceable parking bays throughout the entire bn postcode area,so i wonder how many of these unpaid tickets are because of that,time to get the spade out and dig deaper!!!!
the council has a duty bla bla bla,the council also has a duty to paint legally enforceable parking bays throughout the entire bn postcode area,so i wonder how many of these unpaid tickets are because of that,time to get the spade out and dig deaper!!!! funkyyoyo
  • Score: 1

4:08pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Southamptoncandoone says...

Amusing considering baillifs called on the council's own building, King's House, about a month ago.
Amusing considering baillifs called on the council's own building, King's House, about a month ago. Southamptoncandoone
  • Score: 0

4:09pm Thu 22 Nov 12

sbiscorrupt says...

removal of implied right of access...

simples...
removal of implied right of access... simples... sbiscorrupt
  • Score: 1

4:37pm Thu 22 Nov 12

davyboy says...

funkyyoyo wrote:
the council has a duty bla bla bla,the council also has a duty to paint legally enforceable parking bays throughout the entire bn postcode area,so i wonder how many of these unpaid tickets are because of that,time to get the spade out and dig deaper!!!!
what is the correct size then? have you measured EVERY bay? i must say it is no surprise about the bailliffs, but councils need to use more tact and diplomacy. that way, people would be more forthcoming with their payments. i would get less money, but have guaranteed payments.
[quote][p][bold]funkyyoyo[/bold] wrote: the council has a duty bla bla bla,the council also has a duty to paint legally enforceable parking bays throughout the entire bn postcode area,so i wonder how many of these unpaid tickets are because of that,time to get the spade out and dig deaper!!!![/p][/quote]what is the correct size then? have you measured EVERY bay? i must say it is no surprise about the bailliffs, but councils need to use more tact and diplomacy. that way, people would be more forthcoming with their payments. i would get less money, but have guaranteed payments. davyboy
  • Score: -1

5:14pm Thu 22 Nov 12

rubberflipper says...

The system of using a Bailiff is a medieval practice that should be scrapped. That it is allowed to continue is a measure of government "Orwellian control".

All debt should be settled in a claims court whether large or small. These Bailiff thugs who can enter a home have no place in a modern society. This practice must end.
The system of using a Bailiff is a medieval practice that should be scrapped. That it is allowed to continue is a measure of government "Orwellian control". All debt should be settled in a claims court whether large or small. These Bailiff thugs who can enter a home have no place in a modern society. This practice must end. rubberflipper
  • Score: 1

6:04pm Thu 22 Nov 12

VoxUnpopuli says...

rubberflipper wrote:
The system of using a Bailiff is a medieval practice that should be scrapped. That it is allowed to continue is a measure of government "Orwellian control".

All debt should be settled in a claims court whether large or small. These Bailiff thugs who can enter a home have no place in a modern society. This practice must end.
So having got an award in the claims court, what do you do if the debt is still not paid? Um......er......send the bailiffs round of course! Why do I get the felling that if The Argus said that the Council Tax wasn't being collected you'd all be moaning that the bailiffs WEREN'T being sent round?
[quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: The system of using a Bailiff is a medieval practice that should be scrapped. That it is allowed to continue is a measure of government "Orwellian control". All debt should be settled in a claims court whether large or small. These Bailiff thugs who can enter a home have no place in a modern society. This practice must end.[/p][/quote]So having got an award in the claims court, what do you do if the debt is still not paid? Um......er......send the bailiffs round of course! Why do I get the felling that if The Argus said that the Council Tax wasn't being collected you'd all be moaning that the bailiffs WEREN'T being sent round? VoxUnpopuli
  • Score: 0

6:09pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Serf says...

The bailiffs can only seize your goods if they have been granted access to your home. The distress warrant does not give them automatic right of access.

If a bailiff arrives at your doorstep, refuse them access. Some bailiffs will try to trick you into granting them access. The favourite cons being 1) Can I come in and discuss this in private, you don't want your neighbours to hear your business. 2) It is raining/cold/windy, can I step into your hallway. 3) If you don't let me in, I will call the police.

If you grant them access, they can come back at a later date and because they have previously had access, they can then force entry.

Do not let bailiffs bully you. Refuse them access. However do not ignore the debt. Contact the creditor and tell them that you will never give bailiffs access. Then try and reach a payment plan that you can afford. The Citizens Advice Bureau will also give you advice and negotiate on your behalf.
The bailiffs can only seize your goods if they have been granted access to your home. The distress warrant does not give them automatic right of access. If a bailiff arrives at your doorstep, refuse them access. Some bailiffs will try to trick you into granting them access. The favourite cons being 1) Can I come in and discuss this in private, you don't want your neighbours to hear your business. 2) It is raining/cold/windy, can I step into your hallway. 3) If you don't let me in, I will call the police. If you grant them access, they can come back at a later date and because they have previously had access, they can then force entry. Do not let bailiffs bully you. Refuse them access. However do not ignore the debt. Contact the creditor and tell them that you will never give bailiffs access. Then try and reach a payment plan that you can afford. The Citizens Advice Bureau will also give you advice and negotiate on your behalf. Serf
  • Score: 0

6:17pm Thu 22 Nov 12

stoner1690 says...

Don't get into debt then. Simple.
Don't get into debt then. Simple. stoner1690
  • Score: 0

6:47pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Corn Hill says...

Serf wrote:
The bailiffs can only seize your goods if they have been granted access to your home. The distress warrant does not give them automatic right of access.

If a bailiff arrives at your doorstep, refuse them access. Some bailiffs will try to trick you into granting them access. The favourite cons being 1) Can I come in and discuss this in private, you don't want your neighbours to hear your business. 2) It is raining/cold/windy, can I step into your hallway. 3) If you don't let me in, I will call the police.

If you grant them access, they can come back at a later date and because they have previously had access, they can then force entry.

Do not let bailiffs bully you. Refuse them access. However do not ignore the debt. Contact the creditor and tell them that you will never give bailiffs access. Then try and reach a payment plan that you can afford. The Citizens Advice Bureau will also give you advice and negotiate on your behalf.
Sound advice *thumbs up*
[quote][p][bold]Serf[/bold] wrote: The bailiffs can only seize your goods if they have been granted access to your home. The distress warrant does not give them automatic right of access. If a bailiff arrives at your doorstep, refuse them access. Some bailiffs will try to trick you into granting them access. The favourite cons being 1) Can I come in and discuss this in private, you don't want your neighbours to hear your business. 2) It is raining/cold/windy, can I step into your hallway. 3) If you don't let me in, I will call the police. If you grant them access, they can come back at a later date and because they have previously had access, they can then force entry. Do not let bailiffs bully you. Refuse them access. However do not ignore the debt. Contact the creditor and tell them that you will never give bailiffs access. Then try and reach a payment plan that you can afford. The Citizens Advice Bureau will also give you advice and negotiate on your behalf.[/p][/quote]Sound advice *thumbs up* Corn Hill
  • Score: 0

7:18pm Thu 22 Nov 12

rubberflipper says...

VoxUnpopuli wrote:
rubberflipper wrote:
The system of using a Bailiff is a medieval practice that should be scrapped. That it is allowed to continue is a measure of government "Orwellian control".

All debt should be settled in a claims court whether large or small. These Bailiff thugs who can enter a home have no place in a modern society. This practice must end.
So having got an award in the claims court, what do you do if the debt is still not paid? Um......er......send the bailiffs round of course! Why do I get the felling that if The Argus said that the Council Tax wasn't being collected you'd all be moaning that the bailiffs WEREN'T being sent round?
If a court orders the debtor to pay, then a payment plan should be organised depending on the person's income.

If the debtor refuses to pay or misses payments then a forced bankruptcy order could be applied.

It is very simple really!
[quote][p][bold]VoxUnpopuli[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: The system of using a Bailiff is a medieval practice that should be scrapped. That it is allowed to continue is a measure of government "Orwellian control". All debt should be settled in a claims court whether large or small. These Bailiff thugs who can enter a home have no place in a modern society. This practice must end.[/p][/quote]So having got an award in the claims court, what do you do if the debt is still not paid? Um......er......send the bailiffs round of course! Why do I get the felling that if The Argus said that the Council Tax wasn't being collected you'd all be moaning that the bailiffs WEREN'T being sent round?[/p][/quote]If a court orders the debtor to pay, then a payment plan should be organised depending on the person's income. If the debtor refuses to pay or misses payments then a forced bankruptcy order could be applied. It is very simple really! rubberflipper
  • Score: 0

7:20pm Thu 22 Nov 12

rubberflipper says...

VoxUnpopuli wrote:
rubberflipper wrote:
The system of using a Bailiff is a medieval practice that should be scrapped. That it is allowed to continue is a measure of government "Orwellian control".

All debt should be settled in a claims court whether large or small. These Bailiff thugs who can enter a home have no place in a modern society. This practice must end.
So having got an award in the claims court, what do you do if the debt is still not paid? Um......er......send the bailiffs round of course! Why do I get the felling that if The Argus said that the Council Tax wasn't being collected you'd all be moaning that the bailiffs WEREN'T being sent round?
If any person refuses to pay Council Tax then they should be jailed - depending on their circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]VoxUnpopuli[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: The system of using a Bailiff is a medieval practice that should be scrapped. That it is allowed to continue is a measure of government "Orwellian control". All debt should be settled in a claims court whether large or small. These Bailiff thugs who can enter a home have no place in a modern society. This practice must end.[/p][/quote]So having got an award in the claims court, what do you do if the debt is still not paid? Um......er......send the bailiffs round of course! Why do I get the felling that if The Argus said that the Council Tax wasn't being collected you'd all be moaning that the bailiffs WEREN'T being sent round?[/p][/quote]If any person refuses to pay Council Tax then they should be jailed - depending on their circumstances. rubberflipper
  • Score: 0

7:46pm Thu 22 Nov 12

leobrighton says...

The council just doesn't care about the economics because it is us that pays. Jason Kitkat goes on about how the existence of local councils is being threatened by government cuts as if its a bad thing. Getting rid of the hated local councils would be the best thing that could ever happen to this country the waste and ineffiency on an epic scale is breathtaking yet most people are totally oblivious to it. Get rid of all of them.
The council just doesn't care about the economics because it is us that pays. Jason Kitkat goes on about how the existence of local councils is being threatened by government cuts as if its a bad thing. Getting rid of the hated local councils would be the best thing that could ever happen to this country the waste and ineffiency on an epic scale is breathtaking yet most people are totally oblivious to it. Get rid of all of them. leobrighton
  • Score: 0

8:38pm Thu 22 Nov 12

AmboGuy says...

sbiscorrupt wrote:
removal of implied right of access...

simples...
Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.
[quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: removal of implied right of access... simples...[/p][/quote]Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input. AmboGuy
  • Score: 0

8:48pm Thu 22 Nov 12

John Steed says...

worthing council use baliffs for rate recovery of any amount and for recovery of parking fines, they charge up to £200 a visit and always claim to have arrived with a van,
a couple of well known but disabled car dealers never pay rates but never get harrased, they both have a long history of not paying rent, domestic or commercial, the word is now that houses of ill repute are more profitable than cars. .
worthing council use baliffs for rate recovery of any amount and for recovery of parking fines, they charge up to £200 a visit and always claim to have arrived with a van, a couple of well known but disabled car dealers never pay rates but never get harrased, they both have a long history of not paying rent, domestic or commercial, the word is now that houses of ill repute are more profitable than cars. . John Steed
  • Score: 0

10:10pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

AmboGuy wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
removal of implied right of access...

simples...
Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.
Frankly, I have only read one semi-sensible post from this xxxxxx, relating to car parking
[quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: removal of implied right of access... simples...[/p][/quote]Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.[/p][/quote]Frankly, I have only read one semi-sensible post from this xxxxxx, relating to car parking Somethingsarejustwrong
  • Score: 0

10:13pm Thu 22 Nov 12

greeg2 says...

No sympathy I'm afraid.My advice to anyone with baillifs at their door,pay your bills and it won't happen.
No sympathy I'm afraid.My advice to anyone with baillifs at their door,pay your bills and it won't happen. greeg2
  • Score: 0

10:31pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Ballroom Blitz says...

Do they ever send bailiffs in to recover all the expense that us council tax payers have to fork out to a: evict travellers, and b: tidy up all the mess left behind by travellers?
I'd love to know. Maybe the Argus can submit a FOI on our behalf.
Do they ever send bailiffs in to recover all the expense that us council tax payers have to fork out to a: evict travellers, and b: tidy up all the mess left behind by travellers? I'd love to know. Maybe the Argus can submit a FOI on our behalf. Ballroom Blitz
  • Score: 0

10:33pm Thu 22 Nov 12

pjwilk says...

greeg2 wrote:
No sympathy I'm afraid.My advice to anyone with baillifs at their door,pay your bills and it won't happen.
Easy if you have the money.
[quote][p][bold]greeg2[/bold] wrote: No sympathy I'm afraid.My advice to anyone with baillifs at their door,pay your bills and it won't happen.[/p][/quote]Easy if you have the money. pjwilk
  • Score: 0

10:44pm Thu 22 Nov 12

greeg2 says...

pjwilk wrote:
greeg2 wrote: No sympathy I'm afraid.My advice to anyone with baillifs at their door,pay your bills and it won't happen.
Easy if you have the money.
Get it is the answer,I do.Listen,it's the rest of us who pay for the ones that don't,so refrain from sticking up for them.
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greeg2[/bold] wrote: No sympathy I'm afraid.My advice to anyone with baillifs at their door,pay your bills and it won't happen.[/p][/quote]Easy if you have the money.[/p][/quote]Get it is the answer,I do.Listen,it's the rest of us who pay for the ones that don't,so refrain from sticking up for them. greeg2
  • Score: 0

12:50am Fri 23 Nov 12

meaty loaf says...

greeg2 wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
greeg2 wrote: No sympathy I'm afraid.My advice to anyone with baillifs at their door,pay your bills and it won't happen.
Easy if you have the money.
Get it is the answer,I do.Listen,it's the rest of us who pay for the ones that don't,so refrain from sticking up for them.
greeg2, you're a half wit who knows nothing about the wider world and only about your own safe little cocoon in which you live. What would you do if someone who owed you a significant amount of money legally bankrupted themselves or went into liquidation leaving you in debt as a result of their actions? I doubt very much if you can answer this question as you seem to give very little thought to your comments. Your silence on this matter will speak volumes.
[quote][p][bold]greeg2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greeg2[/bold] wrote: No sympathy I'm afraid.My advice to anyone with baillifs at their door,pay your bills and it won't happen.[/p][/quote]Easy if you have the money.[/p][/quote]Get it is the answer,I do.Listen,it's the rest of us who pay for the ones that don't,so refrain from sticking up for them.[/p][/quote]greeg2, you're a half wit who knows nothing about the wider world and only about your own safe little cocoon in which you live. What would you do if someone who owed you a significant amount of money legally bankrupted themselves or went into liquidation leaving you in debt as a result of their actions? I doubt very much if you can answer this question as you seem to give very little thought to your comments. Your silence on this matter will speak volumes. meaty loaf
  • Score: 0

1:39am Fri 23 Nov 12

nosolution says...

So,we know that the councils chased debts of 7.5 mill. What I would like to know is how much they actually recovered and how much did they spend doing it.Plus,was it worth it?
So,we know that the councils chased debts of 7.5 mill. What I would like to know is how much they actually recovered and how much did they spend doing it.Plus,was it worth it? nosolution
  • Score: 0

4:27am Fri 23 Nov 12

sbiscorrupt says...

AmboGuy wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
removal of implied right of access...

simples...
Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.
How did you become so thick?...

Did it take a lot of practice?

If you have the ability, I suggest you google it - who knows, you might even learn something!
[quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: removal of implied right of access... simples...[/p][/quote]Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.[/p][/quote]How did you become so thick?... Did it take a lot of practice? If you have the ability, I suggest you google it - who knows, you might even learn something! sbiscorrupt
  • Score: 0

9:16am Fri 23 Nov 12

HJarrs says...

leobrighton wrote:
The council just doesn't care about the economics because it is us that pays. Jason Kitkat goes on about how the existence of local councils is being threatened by government cuts as if its a bad thing. Getting rid of the hated local councils would be the best thing that could ever happen to this country the waste and ineffiency on an epic scale is breathtaking yet most people are totally oblivious to it. Get rid of all of them.
And replace it with what? Perhaps you would like to provide a solution as I would still like the bins emptied, the street lights on and a say in what is done in my city. I certainly wouldn't trust utility companies, look at what they have done with the price of gas, water and electricity!
[quote][p][bold]leobrighton[/bold] wrote: The council just doesn't care about the economics because it is us that pays. Jason Kitkat goes on about how the existence of local councils is being threatened by government cuts as if its a bad thing. Getting rid of the hated local councils would be the best thing that could ever happen to this country the waste and ineffiency on an epic scale is breathtaking yet most people are totally oblivious to it. Get rid of all of them.[/p][/quote]And replace it with what? Perhaps you would like to provide a solution as I would still like the bins emptied, the street lights on and a say in what is done in my city. I certainly wouldn't trust utility companies, look at what they have done with the price of gas, water and electricity! HJarrs
  • Score: 0

1:46pm Fri 23 Nov 12

AmboGuy says...

sbiscorrupt wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
removal of implied right of access...

simples...
Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.
How did you become so thick?...

Did it take a lot of practice?

If you have the ability, I suggest you google it - who knows, you might even learn something!
Hush lad. Calm down and get back to your Cowley Club meeting you drain on society.

Maybe when you grow up you'll look back at this period of your life and wonder how you could have been so misguided and naive.
[quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: removal of implied right of access... simples...[/p][/quote]Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.[/p][/quote]How did you become so thick?... Did it take a lot of practice? If you have the ability, I suggest you google it - who knows, you might even learn something![/p][/quote]Hush lad. Calm down and get back to your Cowley Club meeting you drain on society. Maybe when you grow up you'll look back at this period of your life and wonder how you could have been so misguided and naive. AmboGuy
  • Score: 0

1:51pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Palace of Wisdom says...

So ballifs were employed to chase 10,000 parking fines last year. From bitter experience this roughly equates to £2.25m less the balif charges. Thats insane!
So ballifs were employed to chase 10,000 parking fines last year. From bitter experience this roughly equates to £2.25m less the balif charges. Thats insane! Palace of Wisdom
  • Score: 0

4:16pm Fri 23 Nov 12

greeg2 says...

meaty loaf wrote:
greeg2 wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
greeg2 wrote: No sympathy I'm afraid.My advice to anyone with baillifs at their door,pay your bills and it won't happen.
Easy if you have the money.
Get it is the answer,I do.Listen,it's the rest of us who pay for the ones that don't,so refrain from sticking up for them.
greeg2, you're a half wit who knows nothing about the wider world and only about your own safe little cocoon in which you live. What would you do if someone who owed you a significant amount of money legally bankrupted themselves or went into liquidation leaving you in debt as a result of their actions? I doubt very much if you can answer this question as you seem to give very little thought to your comments. Your silence on this matter will speak volumes.
"What would you do if someone who owed you a significant amount of money legally bankrupted themselves or went into liquidation leaving you in debt as a result of their actions?"If I was stupid enough to get myself in that position,I'd live with it.But I'm not and don't have to.Voila,that's my answer.
[quote][p][bold]meaty loaf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greeg2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greeg2[/bold] wrote: No sympathy I'm afraid.My advice to anyone with baillifs at their door,pay your bills and it won't happen.[/p][/quote]Easy if you have the money.[/p][/quote]Get it is the answer,I do.Listen,it's the rest of us who pay for the ones that don't,so refrain from sticking up for them.[/p][/quote]greeg2, you're a half wit who knows nothing about the wider world and only about your own safe little cocoon in which you live. What would you do if someone who owed you a significant amount of money legally bankrupted themselves or went into liquidation leaving you in debt as a result of their actions? I doubt very much if you can answer this question as you seem to give very little thought to your comments. Your silence on this matter will speak volumes.[/p][/quote]"What would you do if someone who owed you a significant amount of money legally bankrupted themselves or went into liquidation leaving you in debt as a result of their actions?"If I was stupid enough to get myself in that position,I'd live with it.But I'm not and don't have to.Voila,that's my answer. greeg2
  • Score: 0

4:29pm Fri 23 Nov 12

VoxUnpopuli says...

rubberflipper wrote:
VoxUnpopuli wrote:
rubberflipper wrote:
The system of using a Bailiff is a medieval practice that should be scrapped. That it is allowed to continue is a measure of government "Orwellian control".

All debt should be settled in a claims court whether large or small. These Bailiff thugs who can enter a home have no place in a modern society. This practice must end.
So having got an award in the claims court, what do you do if the debt is still not paid? Um......er......send the bailiffs round of course! Why do I get the felling that if The Argus said that the Council Tax wasn't being collected you'd all be moaning that the bailiffs WEREN'T being sent round?
If a court orders the debtor to pay, then a payment plan should be organised depending on the person's income.

If the debtor refuses to pay or misses payments then a forced bankruptcy order could be applied.

It is very simple really!
And who will enforce the bankruptcy order? Bailiffs. Who will arrest non-payers and take them to prison? Bailiffs.
[quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VoxUnpopuli[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: The system of using a Bailiff is a medieval practice that should be scrapped. That it is allowed to continue is a measure of government "Orwellian control". All debt should be settled in a claims court whether large or small. These Bailiff thugs who can enter a home have no place in a modern society. This practice must end.[/p][/quote]So having got an award in the claims court, what do you do if the debt is still not paid? Um......er......send the bailiffs round of course! Why do I get the felling that if The Argus said that the Council Tax wasn't being collected you'd all be moaning that the bailiffs WEREN'T being sent round?[/p][/quote]If a court orders the debtor to pay, then a payment plan should be organised depending on the person's income. If the debtor refuses to pay or misses payments then a forced bankruptcy order could be applied. It is very simple really![/p][/quote]And who will enforce the bankruptcy order? Bailiffs. Who will arrest non-payers and take them to prison? Bailiffs. VoxUnpopuli
  • Score: 0

4:29pm Fri 23 Nov 12

VoxUnpopuli says...

rubberflipper wrote:
VoxUnpopuli wrote:
rubberflipper wrote:
The system of using a Bailiff is a medieval practice that should be scrapped. That it is allowed to continue is a measure of government "Orwellian control".

All debt should be settled in a claims court whether large or small. These Bailiff thugs who can enter a home have no place in a modern society. This practice must end.
So having got an award in the claims court, what do you do if the debt is still not paid? Um......er......send the bailiffs round of course! Why do I get the felling that if The Argus said that the Council Tax wasn't being collected you'd all be moaning that the bailiffs WEREN'T being sent round?
If a court orders the debtor to pay, then a payment plan should be organised depending on the person's income.

If the debtor refuses to pay or misses payments then a forced bankruptcy order could be applied.

It is very simple really!
And who will enforce the bankruptcy order? Bailiffs. Who will arrest non-payers and take them to prison? Bailiffs.
[quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VoxUnpopuli[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: The system of using a Bailiff is a medieval practice that should be scrapped. That it is allowed to continue is a measure of government "Orwellian control". All debt should be settled in a claims court whether large or small. These Bailiff thugs who can enter a home have no place in a modern society. This practice must end.[/p][/quote]So having got an award in the claims court, what do you do if the debt is still not paid? Um......er......send the bailiffs round of course! Why do I get the felling that if The Argus said that the Council Tax wasn't being collected you'd all be moaning that the bailiffs WEREN'T being sent round?[/p][/quote]If a court orders the debtor to pay, then a payment plan should be organised depending on the person's income. If the debtor refuses to pay or misses payments then a forced bankruptcy order could be applied. It is very simple really![/p][/quote]And who will enforce the bankruptcy order? Bailiffs. Who will arrest non-payers and take them to prison? Bailiffs. VoxUnpopuli
  • Score: 0

6:12pm Fri 23 Nov 12

sbiscorrupt says...

AmboGuy wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
removal of implied right of access...

simples...
Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.
How did you become so thick?...

Did it take a lot of practice?

If you have the ability, I suggest you google it - who knows, you might even learn something!
Hush lad. Calm down and get back to your Cowley Club meeting you drain on society.

Maybe when you grow up you'll look back at this period of your life and wonder how you could have been so misguided and naive.
As I've said before Ambo...

Your assumptions are so far off the mark, but they give me agood laugh...

If you want to know a few things about common law, then I'd be happy to help out a whippersnapper like you...

If not, then you can just carry on being an ignorant little ****!
[quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: removal of implied right of access... simples...[/p][/quote]Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.[/p][/quote]How did you become so thick?... Did it take a lot of practice? If you have the ability, I suggest you google it - who knows, you might even learn something![/p][/quote]Hush lad. Calm down and get back to your Cowley Club meeting you drain on society. Maybe when you grow up you'll look back at this period of your life and wonder how you could have been so misguided and naive.[/p][/quote]As I've said before Ambo... Your assumptions are so far off the mark, but they give me agood laugh... If you want to know a few things about common law, then I'd be happy to help out a whippersnapper like you... If not, then you can just carry on being an ignorant little ****! sbiscorrupt
  • Score: 0

9:42pm Fri 23 Nov 12

AmboGuy says...

sbiscorrupt wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
removal of implied right of access...

simples...
Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.
How did you become so thick?...

Did it take a lot of practice?

If you have the ability, I suggest you google it - who knows, you might even learn something!
Hush lad. Calm down and get back to your Cowley Club meeting you drain on society.

Maybe when you grow up you'll look back at this period of your life and wonder how you could have been so misguided and naive.
As I've said before Ambo...

Your assumptions are so far off the mark, but they give me agood laugh...

If you want to know a few things about common law, then I'd be happy to help out a whippersnapper like you...

If not, then you can just carry on being an ignorant little ****!
So you're changing your story now? You've said in the past you were a university student yet now you're calling me a 'whippersnapper'.

If you're going to lie then at least remember which lies you've said in the past on this forum.

Still, you have given us all a good laugh.
[quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: removal of implied right of access... simples...[/p][/quote]Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.[/p][/quote]How did you become so thick?... Did it take a lot of practice? If you have the ability, I suggest you google it - who knows, you might even learn something![/p][/quote]Hush lad. Calm down and get back to your Cowley Club meeting you drain on society. Maybe when you grow up you'll look back at this period of your life and wonder how you could have been so misguided and naive.[/p][/quote]As I've said before Ambo... Your assumptions are so far off the mark, but they give me agood laugh... If you want to know a few things about common law, then I'd be happy to help out a whippersnapper like you... If not, then you can just carry on being an ignorant little ****![/p][/quote]So you're changing your story now? You've said in the past you were a university student yet now you're calling me a 'whippersnapper'. If you're going to lie then at least remember which lies you've said in the past on this forum. Still, you have given us all a good laugh. AmboGuy
  • Score: 0

9:26pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

AmboGuy wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
sbiscorrupt wrote:
removal of implied right of access...

simples...
Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.
How did you become so thick?...

Did it take a lot of practice?

If you have the ability, I suggest you google it - who knows, you might even learn something!
Hush lad. Calm down and get back to your Cowley Club meeting you drain on society.

Maybe when you grow up you'll look back at this period of your life and wonder how you could have been so misguided and naive.
As I've said before Ambo...

Your assumptions are so far off the mark, but they give me agood laugh...

If you want to know a few things about common law, then I'd be happy to help out a whippersnapper like you...

If not, then you can just carry on being an ignorant little ****!
So you're changing your story now? You've said in the past you were a university student yet now you're calling me a 'whippersnapper'.

If you're going to lie then at least remember which lies you've said in the past on this forum.

Still, you have given us all a good laugh.
Pathetic, sbiscorrupt is pathetic!
[quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sbiscorrupt[/bold] wrote: removal of implied right of access... simples...[/p][/quote]Another pearl of wisdom by Comrade sbiscorrupt. Thanks for your input.[/p][/quote]How did you become so thick?... Did it take a lot of practice? If you have the ability, I suggest you google it - who knows, you might even learn something![/p][/quote]Hush lad. Calm down and get back to your Cowley Club meeting you drain on society. Maybe when you grow up you'll look back at this period of your life and wonder how you could have been so misguided and naive.[/p][/quote]As I've said before Ambo... Your assumptions are so far off the mark, but they give me agood laugh... If you want to know a few things about common law, then I'd be happy to help out a whippersnapper like you... If not, then you can just carry on being an ignorant little ****![/p][/quote]So you're changing your story now? You've said in the past you were a university student yet now you're calling me a 'whippersnapper'. If you're going to lie then at least remember which lies you've said in the past on this forum. Still, you have given us all a good laugh.[/p][/quote]Pathetic, sbiscorrupt is pathetic! Somethingsarejustwrong
  • Score: 0

Comments are closed on this article.

Send us your news, pictures and videos

Most read stories

Local Info

Enter your postcode, town or place name

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree