Crisis at Beachy Head

The Argus: Volunteers patroling the cliffs at Beachy Head Volunteers patroling the cliffs at Beachy Head

Extra volunteers have been recruited to patrol a notorious suicide spot after a record number of people had to be persuaded not to kill themselves.

Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team has added six new volunteers to its existing team of 19 lifesavers patrolling Europe’s most infamous suicide spot.

The service said it had seen the number of rescues at the cliffs, near Eastbourne, rise 9% in 2012 – as the team prepares for its busiest time of the year.

The number of distressed people visiting the beauty spot has reached such worrying highs that Sussex Police has donated money to fund extra help to try to prevent more deaths.

The news emerged on the day that an inquest will be held into the deaths of a mother and son who travelled to Beachy Head to kill themselves.

'Strain on service'

Ross Hardy, the director at the chaplaincy team, said: “We are expanding our team.

“There has been a lot of strain on the service as we have been seeing such high demand. We have rescued something like 290 people this year.

"That would be a record. It is hard to say exactly why there has been such a rise but we do tend to see a peak in times of recession.

“People always have different reasons for their own personal circumstances, but financial troubles do tend to have an impact on other aspects on people’s lives.

“At Christmas it can be a time that some people find particularly hard. For us as a team it does tend to be busier nearer Christmas.

“We are on patrol 365 days a year but this can be one of the busiest times.”

Increased rescues

By the end of October the chaplaincy service had attended more than 266 rescues, the total number of rescues in the whole of last year.

The number of people being coaxed back from the edge has more than doubled since 2006.

So far this year the volunteers have assisted in more than 700 searches at the cliffs.

The chaplaincy was launched in August 2004 with just six volunteers.

Team members are trained in negotiation techniques similar to those used by law enforcement agencies around the world to try to establish connections with despondent people at the cliff top and try to diffuse high levels of stress.

As well as talking to people who appear distressed and who look like they intend to jump, they also work with the Coastguard and emergency services to try to save lives.

The service has been able to pay for equipment and uniforms for its new team members thanks to a donation of £400 from the Sussex Police Christian Fellowship.

Volunteer support

Mr Hardy added: “This donation is a fantastic thing for us, helping to equip our volunteers to be out there every day of the year.

"We provide a listening service and an offer of support but the weather conditions can be pretty unforgiving on the top of the cliffs.”

Beachy Head is widely considered to be Europe’s most prevalent suicide spot, resulting in around 20 deaths a year.

An inquest will today (December 18) be held into the deaths of mother and son Christopher and Elizabeth Gosling who jumped from the cliffs in an apparent suicide pact in March.

The pair travelled from their home in Cardiff the day before their deaths and took a grim final trip to Eastbourne, spending the night in the area, before driving their car to the cliff top the next morning.

Two days earlier Mr Gosling, 58, had been arrested on suspicion of possessing child abuse pictures and questioned before being released on bail.

An inquest is due to be heard at Eastbourne Magistrates’ Court this afternoon.

Anyone considering suicide can call the Samaritans for help and support 24 hours and day on 08457 909090.

To make a donation send cheques payable to the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team, 80 Wish Hill Eastbourne BN20 9HA or visit bhct.org.uk.

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4:14pm Tue 18 Dec 12

BenUk says...

and yet they still wonder why! people are so thick.
and yet they still wonder why! people are so thick. BenUk

4:37pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Algeria Touchshriek says...

I think the police and courts should fund them. How much does one life saved save the local constabulary, life boat team, coast guard, undertakers, post-mortem, coroners enquirey and court.

Every person they save the plod should donate a few grand.
I think the police and courts should fund them. How much does one life saved save the local constabulary, life boat team, coast guard, undertakers, post-mortem, coroners enquirey and court. Every person they save the plod should donate a few grand. Algeria Touchshriek

5:52pm Tue 18 Dec 12

minnie&teddy says...

this world is a very hard place now i am not surprised the suicide rate has increased
this world is a very hard place now i am not surprised the suicide rate has increased minnie&teddy

6:21pm Tue 18 Dec 12

nosolution says...

Nor am I surprised.Most of us are under intense pressure just to live,far less money,everything is dearer and we are all crammed into such a tiny island with little respite.If a major problem in our lives occurs then because a lot us live so close to the edge...well.Of course if we think back to when we were small our lives were intensely precious to our parents and loved ones as indeed we are now...
Nor am I surprised.Most of us are under intense pressure just to live,far less money,everything is dearer and we are all crammed into such a tiny island with little respite.If a major problem in our lives occurs then because a lot us live so close to the edge...well.Of course if we think back to when we were small our lives were intensely precious to our parents and loved ones as indeed we are now... nosolution

6:51pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Roundbill says...

Algeria Touchshriek wrote:
I think the police and courts should fund them. How much does one life saved save the local constabulary, life boat team, coast guard, undertakers, post-mortem, coroners enquirey and court.

Every person they save the plod should donate a few grand.
Oh good grief, don't go suggesting it should be run by the State! The first thing it would do would be to set up a "best value" analysis in order to generate some targets, before putting the whole service out to tender.
[quote][p][bold]Algeria Touchshriek[/bold] wrote: I think the police and courts should fund them. How much does one life saved save the local constabulary, life boat team, coast guard, undertakers, post-mortem, coroners enquirey and court. Every person they save the plod should donate a few grand.[/p][/quote]Oh good grief, don't go suggesting it should be run by the State! The first thing it would do would be to set up a "best value" analysis in order to generate some targets, before putting the whole service out to tender. Roundbill

8:06pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Roundbill wrote:
Algeria Touchshriek wrote:
I think the police and courts should fund them. How much does one life saved save the local constabulary, life boat team, coast guard, undertakers, post-mortem, coroners enquirey and court.

Every person they save the plod should donate a few grand.
Oh good grief, don't go suggesting it should be run by the State! The first thing it would do would be to set up a "best value" analysis in order to generate some targets, before putting the whole service out to tender.
Better still, build a Crown Court up at the edge and have 2 doors for defendants.

The first for innocent people would lead back to the road. The second for people found guilty..............
........ ?
[quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algeria Touchshriek[/bold] wrote: I think the police and courts should fund them. How much does one life saved save the local constabulary, life boat team, coast guard, undertakers, post-mortem, coroners enquirey and court. Every person they save the plod should donate a few grand.[/p][/quote]Oh good grief, don't go suggesting it should be run by the State! The first thing it would do would be to set up a "best value" analysis in order to generate some targets, before putting the whole service out to tender.[/p][/quote]Better still, build a Crown Court up at the edge and have 2 doors for defendants. The first for innocent people would lead back to the road. The second for people found guilty.............. ........ ? Somethingsarejustwrong

1:56am Wed 19 Dec 12

Thoushillnotjudge says...

An organization that discriminates!


I have no time for organizations that discriminate against non Christians wanting to be members. Wanting to get involved in volunteering to save peoples lives was something that I wished to do. I applied to the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team to be told unless I was a devoted christian I was not welcome to join and was otherwise excluded.
I have since in my own time on one occasion so far managed to save someone who has been on the edge from ending up another statistic. Thats what frustrates me that this organization Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team is funded and allowed to stop people being involved unless they are devoted Christians and the fact the organization is partly funded by Sussex Police is surely promoting discrimination?

For now I will continue to work by myself as I believe in a fair world and everyone deserves to be treated the same. I am not the only individual that has been turned away for not believing in Christianity.

It frustrates me that we still live in a local society that is so divided by religion preventing individuals from being able to join and work as a team to save lives. I am some what saddened by the world we live where discrimination is suppose to be disposed of yet here we are having it promoted.

That is not to take anything away from the individuals that do volunteer in the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team as I’m sure the work they carry out is excellent and saves many lives . It is simply the frustration of being unable to get involved because of my religion or belief which I think is simply wrong.

Maybe if the opportunity was available for all to get involved regardless of religion or belief then there would be more funds and more individuals involved leading to a more successful service?
An organization that discriminates! I have no time for organizations that discriminate against non Christians wanting to be members. Wanting to get involved in volunteering to save peoples lives was something that I wished to do. I applied to the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team to be told unless I was a devoted christian I was not welcome to join and was otherwise excluded. I have since in my own time on one occasion so far managed to save someone who has been on the edge from ending up another statistic. Thats what frustrates me that this organization Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team is funded and allowed to stop people being involved unless they are devoted Christians and the fact the organization is partly funded by Sussex Police is surely promoting discrimination? For now I will continue to work by myself as I believe in a fair world and everyone deserves to be treated the same. I am not the only individual that has been turned away for not believing in Christianity. It frustrates me that we still live in a local society that is so divided by religion preventing individuals from being able to join and work as a team to save lives. I am some what saddened by the world we live where discrimination is suppose to be disposed of yet here we are having it promoted. That is not to take anything away from the individuals that do volunteer in the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team as I’m sure the work they carry out is excellent and saves many lives . It is simply the frustration of being unable to get involved because of my religion or belief which I think is simply wrong. Maybe if the opportunity was available for all to get involved regardless of religion or belief then there would be more funds and more individuals involved leading to a more successful service? Thoushillnotjudge

8:13am Wed 19 Dec 12

Telscombe Cliffy says...

Thoushillnotjudge wrote:
An organization that discriminates!


I have no time for organizations that discriminate against non Christians wanting to be members. Wanting to get involved in volunteering to save peoples lives was something that I wished to do. I applied to the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team to be told unless I was a devoted christian I was not welcome to join and was otherwise excluded.
I have since in my own time on one occasion so far managed to save someone who has been on the edge from ending up another statistic. Thats what frustrates me that this organization Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team is funded and allowed to stop people being involved unless they are devoted Christians and the fact the organization is partly funded by Sussex Police is surely promoting discrimination?

For now I will continue to work by myself as I believe in a fair world and everyone deserves to be treated the same. I am not the only individual that has been turned away for not believing in Christianity.

It frustrates me that we still live in a local society that is so divided by religion preventing individuals from being able to join and work as a team to save lives. I am some what saddened by the world we live where discrimination is suppose to be disposed of yet here we are having it promoted.

That is not to take anything away from the individuals that do volunteer in the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team as I’m sure the work they carry out is excellent and saves many lives . It is simply the frustration of being unable to get involved because of my religion or belief which I think is simply wrong.

Maybe if the opportunity was available for all to get involved regardless of religion or belief then there would be more funds and more individuals involved leading to a more successful service?
Good post but don't let them put you off. Start your own non-religious or multi-religious group and perhaps you would eventually absorb the Christian Chaplaincy ones. The Christians don't own Beachy Head and can't bully or stop others doing good work there.
[quote][p][bold]Thoushillnotjudge[/bold] wrote: An organization that discriminates! I have no time for organizations that discriminate against non Christians wanting to be members. Wanting to get involved in volunteering to save peoples lives was something that I wished to do. I applied to the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team to be told unless I was a devoted christian I was not welcome to join and was otherwise excluded. I have since in my own time on one occasion so far managed to save someone who has been on the edge from ending up another statistic. Thats what frustrates me that this organization Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team is funded and allowed to stop people being involved unless they are devoted Christians and the fact the organization is partly funded by Sussex Police is surely promoting discrimination? For now I will continue to work by myself as I believe in a fair world and everyone deserves to be treated the same. I am not the only individual that has been turned away for not believing in Christianity. It frustrates me that we still live in a local society that is so divided by religion preventing individuals from being able to join and work as a team to save lives. I am some what saddened by the world we live where discrimination is suppose to be disposed of yet here we are having it promoted. That is not to take anything away from the individuals that do volunteer in the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team as I’m sure the work they carry out is excellent and saves many lives . It is simply the frustration of being unable to get involved because of my religion or belief which I think is simply wrong. Maybe if the opportunity was available for all to get involved regardless of religion or belief then there would be more funds and more individuals involved leading to a more successful service?[/p][/quote]Good post but don't let them put you off. Start your own non-religious or multi-religious group and perhaps you would eventually absorb the Christian Chaplaincy ones. The Christians don't own Beachy Head and can't bully or stop others doing good work there. Telscombe Cliffy

8:52am Wed 19 Dec 12

Tis I says...

If i was on the edge and approached by a hi viz do-gooder spouting the bible! I know which way i would go!
If i was on the edge and approached by a hi viz do-gooder spouting the bible! I know which way i would go! Tis I

9:22am Wed 19 Dec 12

Crystal Ball says...

Hi-visibility jackets. The route to (usually falsely) thinking you are important...
Hi-visibility jackets. The route to (usually falsely) thinking you are important... Crystal Ball

12:31pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Tailgaters Anonymous says...

Amazing contributions for what is a devilishly serious matter!
Do wonder what planet some of the above come from! not planet Earth, clearly.
Amazing contributions for what is a devilishly serious matter! Do wonder what planet some of the above come from! not planet Earth, clearly. Tailgaters Anonymous

12:41pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Thoushillnotjudge says...

Tailgaters Anonymous wrote:
Amazing contributions for what is a devilishly serious matter!
Do wonder what planet some of the above come from! not planet Earth, clearly.
Which is why such a sensitive matter should b dealt with in the most effective way. Excluding potential members because they do not have the same belief or follow the same religion is preventing this. It is also otherwise known as discrimination.
[quote][p][bold]Tailgaters Anonymous[/bold] wrote: Amazing contributions for what is a devilishly serious matter! Do wonder what planet some of the above come from! not planet Earth, clearly.[/p][/quote]Which is why such a sensitive matter should b dealt with in the most effective way. Excluding potential members because they do not have the same belief or follow the same religion is preventing this. It is also otherwise known as discrimination. Thoushillnotjudge

1:30pm Wed 19 Dec 12

mimseycal says...

"It is also otherwise known as discrimination"

And runs contrary to the Equality Act 2010
"It is also otherwise known as discrimination" And runs contrary to the Equality Act 2010 mimseycal

2:19pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Thoushillnotjudge says...

Now your just getting boring and off the point. Go and use your front door you might find something you have never seen before!
Now your just getting boring and off the point. Go and use your front door you might find something you have never seen before! Thoushillnotjudge

6:16pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Patsyr says...

Thoushillnotjudge wrote:
An organization that discriminates!


I have no time for organizations that discriminate against non Christians wanting to be members. Wanting to get involved in volunteering to save peoples lives was something that I wished to do. I applied to the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team to be told unless I was a devoted christian I was not welcome to join and was otherwise excluded.
I have since in my own time on one occasion so far managed to save someone who has been on the edge from ending up another statistic. Thats what frustrates me that this organization Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team is funded and allowed to stop people being involved unless they are devoted Christians and the fact the organization is partly funded by Sussex Police is surely promoting discrimination?

For now I will continue to work by myself as I believe in a fair world and everyone deserves to be treated the same. I am not the only individual that has been turned away for not believing in Christianity.

It frustrates me that we still live in a local society that is so divided by religion preventing individuals from being able to join and work as a team to save lives. I am some what saddened by the world we live where discrimination is suppose to be disposed of yet here we are having it promoted.

That is not to take anything away from the individuals that do volunteer in the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team as I’m sure the work they carry out is excellent and saves many lives . It is simply the frustration of being unable to get involved because of my religion or belief which I think is simply wrong.

Maybe if the opportunity was available for all to get involved regardless of religion or belief then there would be more funds and more individuals involved leading to a more successful service?
You have such a lot to say, would you really be able to stop talking to listen to a distressed person, perhaps for a long time? I don't think so!
[quote][p][bold]Thoushillnotjudge[/bold] wrote: An organization that discriminates! I have no time for organizations that discriminate against non Christians wanting to be members. Wanting to get involved in volunteering to save peoples lives was something that I wished to do. I applied to the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team to be told unless I was a devoted christian I was not welcome to join and was otherwise excluded. I have since in my own time on one occasion so far managed to save someone who has been on the edge from ending up another statistic. Thats what frustrates me that this organization Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team is funded and allowed to stop people being involved unless they are devoted Christians and the fact the organization is partly funded by Sussex Police is surely promoting discrimination? For now I will continue to work by myself as I believe in a fair world and everyone deserves to be treated the same. I am not the only individual that has been turned away for not believing in Christianity. It frustrates me that we still live in a local society that is so divided by religion preventing individuals from being able to join and work as a team to save lives. I am some what saddened by the world we live where discrimination is suppose to be disposed of yet here we are having it promoted. That is not to take anything away from the individuals that do volunteer in the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team as I’m sure the work they carry out is excellent and saves many lives . It is simply the frustration of being unable to get involved because of my religion or belief which I think is simply wrong. Maybe if the opportunity was available for all to get involved regardless of religion or belief then there would be more funds and more individuals involved leading to a more successful service?[/p][/quote]You have such a lot to say, would you really be able to stop talking to listen to a distressed person, perhaps for a long time? I don't think so! Patsyr

6:16pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Patsyr says...

Thoushillnotjudge wrote:
An organization that discriminates!


I have no time for organizations that discriminate against non Christians wanting to be members. Wanting to get involved in volunteering to save peoples lives was something that I wished to do. I applied to the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team to be told unless I was a devoted christian I was not welcome to join and was otherwise excluded.
I have since in my own time on one occasion so far managed to save someone who has been on the edge from ending up another statistic. Thats what frustrates me that this organization Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team is funded and allowed to stop people being involved unless they are devoted Christians and the fact the organization is partly funded by Sussex Police is surely promoting discrimination?

For now I will continue to work by myself as I believe in a fair world and everyone deserves to be treated the same. I am not the only individual that has been turned away for not believing in Christianity.

It frustrates me that we still live in a local society that is so divided by religion preventing individuals from being able to join and work as a team to save lives. I am some what saddened by the world we live where discrimination is suppose to be disposed of yet here we are having it promoted.

That is not to take anything away from the individuals that do volunteer in the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team as I’m sure the work they carry out is excellent and saves many lives . It is simply the frustration of being unable to get involved because of my religion or belief which I think is simply wrong.

Maybe if the opportunity was available for all to get involved regardless of religion or belief then there would be more funds and more individuals involved leading to a more successful service?
You have such a lot to say, would you really be able to stop talking to listen to a distressed person, perhaps for a long time? I don't think so!
[quote][p][bold]Thoushillnotjudge[/bold] wrote: An organization that discriminates! I have no time for organizations that discriminate against non Christians wanting to be members. Wanting to get involved in volunteering to save peoples lives was something that I wished to do. I applied to the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team to be told unless I was a devoted christian I was not welcome to join and was otherwise excluded. I have since in my own time on one occasion so far managed to save someone who has been on the edge from ending up another statistic. Thats what frustrates me that this organization Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team is funded and allowed to stop people being involved unless they are devoted Christians and the fact the organization is partly funded by Sussex Police is surely promoting discrimination? For now I will continue to work by myself as I believe in a fair world and everyone deserves to be treated the same. I am not the only individual that has been turned away for not believing in Christianity. It frustrates me that we still live in a local society that is so divided by religion preventing individuals from being able to join and work as a team to save lives. I am some what saddened by the world we live where discrimination is suppose to be disposed of yet here we are having it promoted. That is not to take anything away from the individuals that do volunteer in the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team as I’m sure the work they carry out is excellent and saves many lives . It is simply the frustration of being unable to get involved because of my religion or belief which I think is simply wrong. Maybe if the opportunity was available for all to get involved regardless of religion or belief then there would be more funds and more individuals involved leading to a more successful service?[/p][/quote]You have such a lot to say, would you really be able to stop talking to listen to a distressed person, perhaps for a long time? I don't think so! Patsyr

6:54pm Wed 19 Dec 12

mimseycal says...

Can only those with Jesus in their hearts talk to distressed people?
Can only those with Jesus in their hearts talk to distressed people? mimseycal

7:25pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Rev Enge says...

Build a dirty great big housing estate on Beach Head, no where near enough houses in that area.
Build a dirty great big housing estate on Beach Head, no where near enough houses in that area. Rev Enge

7:04am Thu 20 Dec 12

whereisthe...? says...

Record number of people saved, along with the facts in the story mean the headline should be - RECORD NUMBERS OF PEOPLE SUICIDAL. But of course that would show that the Tories are responsible for the death and dismay of thousands in this country, let alone abroad.


And the Argus would never admit such things about its masters now, would it?
Record number of people saved, along with the facts in the story mean the headline should be - RECORD NUMBERS OF PEOPLE SUICIDAL. But of course that would show that the Tories are responsible for the death and dismay of thousands in this country, let alone abroad. And the Argus would never admit such things about its masters now, would it? whereisthe...?

9:54am Thu 20 Dec 12

Juleyanne says...

Tragically, the overwhelming and crushing financial downturn is literally killing people!
Faced with vicious cuts and what seems like weekly price rises in commodities and dwindling resources in an overcrowded country, the outcome is sadly predictable.
Those responsible for bringing much of the world to it's knees have blood on their hands yet languish in enormous wealth made off the back of untold misery and despair!
Tragically, the overwhelming and crushing financial downturn is literally killing people! Faced with vicious cuts and what seems like weekly price rises in commodities and dwindling resources in an overcrowded country, the outcome is sadly predictable. Those responsible for bringing much of the world to it's knees have blood on their hands yet languish in enormous wealth made off the back of untold misery and despair! Juleyanne

5:24am Fri 21 Dec 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Juleyanne wrote:
Tragically, the overwhelming and crushing financial downturn is literally killing people!
Faced with vicious cuts and what seems like weekly price rises in commodities and dwindling resources in an overcrowded country, the outcome is sadly predictable.
Those responsible for bringing much of the world to it's knees have blood on their hands yet languish in enormous wealth made off the back of untold misery and despair!
Far too much money going on benefits to workshy malingerers and to support the unwanted dogs and cats that this population fail to look after.

Beach Head should be where this population have to visit to register a claim.and maybe we might just reduce the number of claimants on this basis.
[quote][p][bold]Juleyanne[/bold] wrote: Tragically, the overwhelming and crushing financial downturn is literally killing people! Faced with vicious cuts and what seems like weekly price rises in commodities and dwindling resources in an overcrowded country, the outcome is sadly predictable. Those responsible for bringing much of the world to it's knees have blood on their hands yet languish in enormous wealth made off the back of untold misery and despair![/p][/quote]Far too much money going on benefits to workshy malingerers and to support the unwanted dogs and cats that this population fail to look after. Beach Head should be where this population have to visit to register a claim.and maybe we might just reduce the number of claimants on this basis. Somethingsarejustwrong

10:29pm Sun 23 Dec 12

KevtheWitch says...

I can only agree that any Chaplaincy team on Beachy Head should be non religious. I talked a lady down from there by phone after she shouted at one of the team 'Don't give be your religious bulls***. It's f****** Gods fault that I'm up here in the first place'.

Quote Patrick Stewart 'You have no say in whether you want to be born but you sure as hell have the right to decide when to die'

See www.beachy-head.co.u
k
I can only agree that any Chaplaincy team on Beachy Head should be non religious. I talked a lady down from there by phone after she shouted at one of the team 'Don't give be your religious bulls***. It's f****** Gods fault that I'm up here in the first place'. Quote Patrick Stewart 'You have no say in whether you want to be born but you sure as hell have the right to decide when to die' See www.beachy-head.co.u k KevtheWitch

2:08am Wed 26 Dec 12

Thoushillnotjudge says...

Patsyr wrote:
Thoushillnotjudge wrote:
An organization that discriminates!


I have no time for organizations that discriminate against non Christians wanting to be members. Wanting to get involved in volunteering to save peoples lives was something that I wished to do. I applied to the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team to be told unless I was a devoted christian I was not welcome to join and was otherwise excluded.
I have since in my own time on one occasion so far managed to save someone who has been on the edge from ending up another statistic. Thats what frustrates me that this organization Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team is funded and allowed to stop people being involved unless they are devoted Christians and the fact the organization is partly funded by Sussex Police is surely promoting discrimination?

For now I will continue to work by myself as I believe in a fair world and everyone deserves to be treated the same. I am not the only individual that has been turned away for not believing in Christianity.

It frustrates me that we still live in a local society that is so divided by religion preventing individuals from being able to join and work as a team to save lives. I am some what saddened by the world we live where discrimination is suppose to be disposed of yet here we are having it promoted.

That is not to take anything away from the individuals that do volunteer in the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team as I’m sure the work they carry out is excellent and saves many lives . It is simply the frustration of being unable to get involved because of my religion or belief which I think is simply wrong.

Maybe if the opportunity was available for all to get involved regardless of religion or belief then there would be more funds and more individuals involved leading to a more successful service?
You have such a lot to say, would you really be able to stop talking to listen to a distressed person, perhaps for a long time? I don't think so!
You have such a lot to say, would you really be able to stop talking to listen to a distressed person, perhaps for a long time? I don't think so! @patsyr

It just demonstrates how narrow minded you are. When you have actually been in a situation that is so serious I would not be making jokes about it.

It actually just shows how sick minded and judgmental some users on here are!
[quote][p][bold]Patsyr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thoushillnotjudge[/bold] wrote: An organization that discriminates! I have no time for organizations that discriminate against non Christians wanting to be members. Wanting to get involved in volunteering to save peoples lives was something that I wished to do. I applied to the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team to be told unless I was a devoted christian I was not welcome to join and was otherwise excluded. I have since in my own time on one occasion so far managed to save someone who has been on the edge from ending up another statistic. Thats what frustrates me that this organization Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team is funded and allowed to stop people being involved unless they are devoted Christians and the fact the organization is partly funded by Sussex Police is surely promoting discrimination? For now I will continue to work by myself as I believe in a fair world and everyone deserves to be treated the same. I am not the only individual that has been turned away for not believing in Christianity. It frustrates me that we still live in a local society that is so divided by religion preventing individuals from being able to join and work as a team to save lives. I am some what saddened by the world we live where discrimination is suppose to be disposed of yet here we are having it promoted. That is not to take anything away from the individuals that do volunteer in the Beachy Head Chaplaincy Team as I’m sure the work they carry out is excellent and saves many lives . It is simply the frustration of being unable to get involved because of my religion or belief which I think is simply wrong. Maybe if the opportunity was available for all to get involved regardless of religion or belief then there would be more funds and more individuals involved leading to a more successful service?[/p][/quote]You have such a lot to say, would you really be able to stop talking to listen to a distressed person, perhaps for a long time? I don't think so![/p][/quote]You have such a lot to say, would you really be able to stop talking to listen to a distressed person, perhaps for a long time? I don't think so! @patsyr It just demonstrates how narrow minded you are. When you have actually been in a situation that is so serious I would not be making jokes about it. It actually just shows how sick minded and judgmental some users on here are! Thoushillnotjudge

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