Afghan man's journey a real toy story (From The Argus)

How the hell does an Afghan and a Russian citizen get the right to settle in Britain? Since when was Afghanistan and Russia part of the EU?

This kind of immigration must be put a stop to because it certainly isn't in the interests of the British people who are finding it hard to make ends meet.

Disgusting.

Well, lordengland, don't expect your post to last too long here. Anyone who attacks immigration are usually silenced.

I have to agree with you. This open door policy on immigration into Britain has gone too far and some day it is going to backfire.

I really feel that most Britons are fed up to the back teeth with immigrants flooding in because there are just too many and our country is full up.

We must slam the door shut.

Oh dear ! Someone coming to our country, working hard and making a living for themselves. .... rather than sponging off the state ....

I knew that this would be a target for the right wing blinkered ones among us who love to criticize the success of others.

This guy appears to be the epitome of hard work and entrepreneurship. Perhaps we should look and learn from him rather than put him down

Try reading the article M'Lud or is it beyond you? It's called an entrepreneurial visa and it's given to people who can invest or show evidence of business ability. Think football, think horseracing, or car manufacturing or a host of other economic activity that would have disappeared from the UK without foreign investment.

Not a big fan of immigration, but he seems like a nice, hard working chap and I wish him and his wife all the very best in 2013.

My only issue is why didn't they settle in Russia?

Perhaps some of these posters should do a little bit of elementary research into how, and to whom, and entrepreneur visa is granted.

Then they should perhaps bear in mind the old saying "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
How the hell does an Afghan and a Russian citizen get the right to settle in Britain? Since when was Afghanistan and Russia part of the EU?

This kind of immigration must be put a stop to because it certainly isn't in the interests of the British people who are finding it hard to make ends meet.

Disgusting.

I suspect that the people that this entrepreneur has created jobs for may disagree that it is not in their interests.......

I see quite a few negative comments which no doubt will be removed when the argus notices them,most people on street level agree we have a problem with immigration,but in this case they are self supporting,adding to our economy,and most important of all intergrating with us.I wish them every sucess .

Beethoven wrote:
I knew that this would be a target for the right wing blinkered ones among us who love to criticize the success of others.

This guy appears to be the epitome of hard work and entrepreneurship. Perhaps we should look and learn from him rather than put him down

Well, I thought about it too, but:

Where did he get the finance from, coming from such an impoverished country?

Don't forget that once they are given social security numbers they will be able to claim Tax Credits etc. They will also be using the NHS, schools and so on.

So, I agree with those who say, No. We must sponsor our own people for work because there are so many who are just scratching a living.

He is without doubt hard working and entreprenurial but lets look behind the headlines:
We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China.
All good employment for the workers exporting those toys. Not many from UK it would seem.

Two full time jobs have been created.
That will be Mr and Mrs Qiam then ?

Why did he choose the UK to settle and not India his original first destination. Surely India has much more growth potential and stronger entreprenurial ethos than the UK ?

"Brighton reminds me of Afghanistan..." but without the sand, war, goats, kidnappings, British Army etc, etc, etc.

Kiddon72 wrote:
He is without doubt hard working and entreprenurial but lets look behind the headlines:
We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China.
All good employment for the workers exporting those toys. Not many from UK it would seem.

Two full time jobs have been created.
That will be Mr and Mrs Qiam then ?

Why did he choose the UK to settle and not India his original first destination. Surely India has much more growth potential and stronger entreprenurial ethos than the UK ?

Look at it this way:

We have a population at over 60 million now and still rising - all caused by immigration. We have millions unemployed and further millions only able to find part-time work. We have businesses struggling and many find the business rates high and struggle to pay it.

Now, where is there room for people to come here when our own people are struggling?

Did he have he's own finances to open a shop in Brighton and pay the business rates from day 1? If he was given this special visa is that because he had thousands of pounds of his own money?

Anyone know the details?

maxiboy_ wrote:

Kiddon72 wrote:
He is without doubt hard working and entreprenurial but lets look behind the headlines:
We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China.
All good employment for the workers exporting those toys. Not many from UK it would seem.

Two full time jobs have been created.
That will be Mr and Mrs Qiam then ?

Why did he choose the UK to settle and not India his original first destination. Surely India has much more growth potential and stronger entreprenurial ethos than the UK ?

Look at it this way:

We have a population at over 60 million now and still rising - all caused by immigration. We have millions unemployed and further millions only able to find part-time work. We have businesses struggling and many find the business rates high and struggle to pay it.

Now, where is there room for people to come here when our own people are struggling?

Did he have he's own finances to open a shop in Brighton and pay the business rates from day 1? If he was given this special visa is that because he had thousands of pounds of his own money?

Anyone know the details?

Nope. But as an Englishman born and bred I don't like the sound of you. Get out of my country please!

I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Surely not! wrote:

maxiboy_ wrote:

Kiddon72 wrote:
He is without doubt hard working and entreprenurial but lets look behind the headlines:
We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China.
All good employment for the workers exporting those toys. Not many from UK it would seem.

Two full time jobs have been created.
That will be Mr and Mrs Qiam then ?

Why did he choose the UK to settle and not India his original first destination. Surely India has much more growth potential and stronger entreprenurial ethos than the UK ?

Look at it this way:

We have a population at over 60 million now and still rising - all caused by immigration. We have millions unemployed and further millions only able to find part-time work. We have businesses struggling and many find the business rates high and struggle to pay it.

Now, where is there room for people to come here when our own people are struggling?

Did he have he's own finances to open a shop in Brighton and pay the business rates from day 1? If he was given this special visa is that because he had thousands of pounds of his own money?

Anyone know the details?

Nope. But as an Englishman born and bred I don't like the sound of you. Get out of my country please!

I bet you weren't born in B&H though was you. Just another drifting punk from the North I expect.

SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Good for you and welcome! I'll be stopping by next time I'm in town. Brighton is proud to be a multi-cultural and welcoming city. Unfortunately, internet forums like this always attract the crazy right-wingers - but their views are not shared for most of us.

SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

ILoveSussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Good for you and welcome! I'll be stopping by next time I'm in town. Brighton is proud to be a multi-cultural and welcoming city. Unfortunately, internet forums like this always attract the crazy right-wingers - but their views are not shared for most of us.

Thank you very much! Feel better already. I was shocked at first, however, I do understand how these things work - I know it's not representative as we've met so many great and supportive people along the way. Britain is a great country and Brighton is very welcoming and inspiring. Thank you again and welcome anytime.

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure!

Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese!

Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

ILoveSussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Good for you and welcome! I'll be stopping by next time I'm in town. Brighton is proud to be a multi-cultural and welcoming city. Unfortunately, internet forums like this always attract the crazy right-wingers - but their views are not shared for most of us.

You have it wrong.

This forum attracts crazy left-wingers who spout rubbish, create multiple identities, post en-mass complete propaganda about Brighton being multicultural when it is an English city and generate fictional postings like those above to try and warp the truth.

Reminds me of the Marxist Party.

lordenglandofsussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure!

Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese!

Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

I know I shouldn't but sometimes the temptation's too much.

For the sake of clarity, this intended primarily, but not necessarily exclusively, for lordenglandofsussex.


I refer you my post of 11:47, mostly to the second paragraph.

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

If all you were to do is read Argus comments, you would think Brighton has gone to hell in a handbag.

Well, it hasn't. The trolls that comment here represent nothing about the real Brighton.

Argus commentators are usually xenophobic, racist, homophobic, ugly trolls and bigots who have never ventured outside their dark closets to see the sun.

lordenglandofsussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure!

Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese!

Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

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lordenglandofsussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure!

Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese!

Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

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lordenglandofsussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......

Andy R wrote:

lordenglandofsussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......

Didn't take long for you to come out of your coffin did it?

What happened, Labour haven't delivered your supply of blood lately?

Andy R wrote:

lordenglandofsussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......

I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.

SoniaP wrote:

Andy R wrote:

lordenglandofsussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......

I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.

There really isn't that much anger directed towards you. What there is, is quite a bit of trolling, designed to stir a reaction.

The people doing this are, generally speaking, pretty inadequate individuals. The vast majority of the population of Brighton, Hove, Sussex and the UK, and actually supportive of anyone, from wherever, who shows a bit of gumption and gets of their backsides and actually does something worthwhile.

I'd wager that the most productive thing most of these haters who post on here can manage is to get their shoes on the right feet.

SoniaP wrote:

Andy R wrote:

lordenglandofsussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......

I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.

I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.

ecw wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

Andy R wrote:

lordenglandofsussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......

I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.

I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.

And then the moderator (who is probably a Labour supporter) then deletes all those who are anti-immigration.

To put it plainly the majority who are against immigration are so because they see the destruction of our native people, culture and heritage handed to us by our forefathers.

The irony is that the very same left-wing fascists who attack the English patriots openly support Palestinian patriots who are after all only interested in saving their people and heritage. Imagine the day when the Palestinians do get their own statehood but millions of immigrants flooded in from across the globe. Would they be happy?

ecw wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

Andy R wrote:

lordenglandofsussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......

I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.

I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.

I understand and agree that immigration is an important issue and needs to be debated. However, I believe, that we are not that negative example of how immigration policies don't work. We came here on entrepreneur visa - we invest, we create jobs (not only for ourselves) - we don't claim anything and never will and it's just sad to see comments (which feel very personal) like" get out of my country, disgusting" etc.

SoniaP wrote:

ecw wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

Andy R wrote:

lordenglandofsussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......

I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.

I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.

I understand and agree that immigration is an important issue and needs to be debated. However, I believe, that we are not that negative example of how immigration policies don't work. We came here on entrepreneur visa - we invest, we create jobs (not only for ourselves) - we don't claim anything and never will and it's just sad to see comments (which feel very personal) like" get out of my country, disgusting" etc.

Now let me see....I can choose to side with lordenglishofBNP and a few other small minded cretins....OR ....the likes of AndyR and SoniaP who both sound like rational likeable progressive individuals with whom I might enjoy a cup of tea...
em....Tough Choice !

lordenglandofsussex wrote:

ecw wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

Andy R wrote:

lordenglandofsussex wrote:

SoniaP wrote:

DC78 wrote:

SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.

Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!

Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)

Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!

You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......

I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.

I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.

And then the moderator (who is probably a Labour supporter) then deletes all those who are anti-immigration.

To put it plainly the majority who are against immigration are so because they see the destruction of our native people, culture and heritage handed to us by our forefathers.

The irony is that the very same left-wing fascists who attack the English patriots openly support Palestinian patriots who are after all only interested in saving their people and heritage. Imagine the day when the Palestinians do get their own statehood but millions of immigrants flooded in from across the globe. Would they be happy?

lordeofs - The 'destruction of our native people' happened centuries back when the Angles and Saxons arrived from mainland Europe.

More recently, 'our culture and heritage' has been shaped by immigrants, for example, (the German) Prince Albert given us the many of the trappings of our traditional 'English' Christmas.

You have access to the internet - why not use it to do a bit of research before spouting off?

Some of the comments on here are awful. I welcome you both to Brighton and hope your toy shop is a huge success. I shall definitely pop in next time I'm in town. Ignore the bigots who are just jealous because they have no ambition themselves and could never learn another language fluently and set up a business in a different country. That's why they can spend all day commenting on the Argus. Wishing you all the best!

20 years ago 99% of people would wish the 2 Afgans the best of success as I do,however the disastrous open door policy of the last labour government saw the population increase by a million a year,most in the south east.Schools are rammed,hospitals in crisis,roads cannot cope,housing in dire straits although the countryside has been built on at the rate of a town the size of Eastbourne year on year.People feel that their hospitality has been spat on by a failed far left/big business policy and it,s notable that even long term immigrants who have been here for 20plus years feel the same way.This country is turning into a metropolitan leech-like parisitic state that feeds off over countrys to survive.Adults that come here were brought up and educated in their own countries at some expense only for them not to repay their home countries but to clear off to England in search of their fortune...

I look forward to visiting your shop Sanjar and Sonia, we have a small expert that would be very interested in your stock. What a nice change it is to have Afganistan in a positive story and I hope that you make a success of your business in B&H and enjoy living here.

I am afraid that you have to forgive some of the posters, they like to believe that they do not live in an interconnected world where all countries interlinked. Britain is in relative decline at the moment and these same posters will look for easy targets to blame such as immigrants, travellers, squatters etc. The funny thing is the biggest culprets for our current predicament would seem to be a group of middle aged white English men who went to the "best" schools and universities.

HJarrs wrote:
I look forward to visiting your shop Sanjar and Sonia, we have a small expert that would be very interested in your stock. What a nice change it is to have Afganistan in a positive story and I hope that you make a success of your business in B&H and enjoy living here.

I am afraid that you have to forgive some of the posters, they like to believe that they do not live in an interconnected world where all countries interlinked. Britain is in relative decline at the moment and these same posters will look for easy targets to blame such as immigrants, travellers, squatters etc. The funny thing is the biggest culprets for our current predicament would seem to be a group of middle aged white English men who went to the "best" schools and universities.

Ah the voice of the green party's village idiot speaks!

I have read the story and re-read it and considered the plethora of comments and must say its a very interesting scenario.

My conclusion is that I fully support these people and everything they stand for and how refreshing it is to learn that we have people who instead of grabbing benefits, seek to add value and dare I say it, opportunity for others.

My concern is that people like HJarrs, Andy R and other wasters also support the position, albeit on the basis I suspect of ignorance and sheer bloody mindedness.

That said, I wish this couple every success in the same way I hope sodastream goes on to achieve great things.

The reason so many people are unhappy with so many foreign people coming to the UK to settle is because they get benefits like child benefit, tax credits, etc - many of these benefits are sent abroad - not even spent in this country often because the wife and children are still abroad, that is wrong IMO.

There's also the problem of our NHS being stretched to it's limits. This evening I took my son to our GP surgery in Eastbourne for an emergency appointment - normally we're seen fairly quickly. Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad. It is annoying - the situation is getting worse, especially now we've got a government in power that are trying to sell off our NHS to their "friends" and themselves who have their hands in the sticky pot of private health care companies.

If you go into any A&E it has so many foreign people waiting to be seen, many can hardly speak any English - so the NHS staff are spending longer trying to sort that problem out and diagnose what's wrong with them.

I used to welcome people to the UK from abroad but now I don't - because of seeing that it having a detrimental effect on the UK. Schools are having enormous problems with children who cannot speak English - this slows everything down.

The homeless from the UK, in Eastbourne are being treated abysmally in comparison to foreigners. They have accommodation that is disgusting, carpets threadbare and filthy - the foreigners have new carpets. The UK people have foul food the foreigners get very good food.

This is all wrong - this is why many of us are not happy to see any more foreigners coming into the UK and settling here.

Fabulous comments, especially from DC78. i want some of what he/she is on, the level of derangement is immeasurable. It is pointless having any form of debate with these Euro socialist zealots. I say, put the continuing EU membership to the vote. Cameron, as the previous imbeciles, Blair, Brown, Major, etc all knew. The majority of british people want out of the EU. We will then have some control as to who visits Britain.

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
The reason so many people are unhappy with so many foreign people coming to the UK to settle is because they get benefits like child benefit, tax credits, etc - many of these benefits are sent abroad - not even spent in this country often because the wife and children are still abroad, that is wrong IMO.

There's also the problem of our NHS being stretched to it's limits. This evening I took my son to our GP surgery in Eastbourne for an emergency appointment - normally we're seen fairly quickly. Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad. It is annoying - the situation is getting worse, especially now we've got a government in power that are trying to sell off our NHS to their "friends" and themselves who have their hands in the sticky pot of private health care companies.

If you go into any A&E it has so many foreign people waiting to be seen, many can hardly speak any English - so the NHS staff are spending longer trying to sort that problem out and diagnose what's wrong with them.

I used to welcome people to the UK from abroad but now I don't - because of seeing that it having a detrimental effect on the UK. Schools are having enormous problems with children who cannot speak English - this slows everything down.

The homeless from the UK, in Eastbourne are being treated abysmally in comparison to foreigners. They have accommodation that is disgusting, carpets threadbare and filthy - the foreigners have new carpets. The UK people have foul food the foreigners get very good food.

This is all wrong - this is why many of us are not happy to see any more foreigners coming into the UK and settling here.

The homeless should be removed from the streets and ideally placed in 'poor houses', or incarcerated.

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

HJarrs wrote:
I look forward to visiting your shop Sanjar and Sonia, we have a small expert that would be very interested in your stock. What a nice change it is to have Afganistan in a positive story and I hope that you make a success of your business in B&H and enjoy living here.

I am afraid that you have to forgive some of the posters, they like to believe that they do not live in an interconnected world where all countries interlinked. Britain is in relative decline at the moment and these same posters will look for easy targets to blame such as immigrants, travellers, squatters etc. The funny thing is the biggest culprets for our current predicament would seem to be a group of middle aged white English men who went to the "best" schools and universities.

Ah the voice of the green party's village idiot speaks!

I have read the story and re-read it and considered the plethora of comments and must say its a very interesting scenario.

My conclusion is that I fully support these people and everything they stand for and how refreshing it is to learn that we have people who instead of grabbing benefits, seek to add value and dare I say it, opportunity for others.

My concern is that people like HJarrs, Andy R and other wasters also support the position, albeit on the basis I suspect of ignorance and sheer bloody mindedness.

That said, I wish this couple every success in the same way I hope sodastream goes on to achieve great things.

Ah! Happy New Year to you!

I don't understand your wandering post. What was the point exactly?

I shall continue to be a waster going back to work tomorrow; earning money, paying tax and spending my money in local shops like the one above.

I had to laugh at your "bring back the poor house" comment, if they did, you would be complaining that the gruel was too thick or the rocks were not being broken small enough! We have been there, it didn't work, most of society moved on, but obviously not everyone.

HJarrs wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:

HJarrs wrote:
I look forward to visiting your shop Sanjar and Sonia, we have a small expert that would be very interested in your stock. What a nice change it is to have Afganistan in a positive story and I hope that you make a success of your business in B&H and enjoy living here.

I am afraid that you have to forgive some of the posters, they like to believe that they do not live in an interconnected world where all countries interlinked. Britain is in relative decline at the moment and these same posters will look for easy targets to blame such as immigrants, travellers, squatters etc. The funny thing is the biggest culprets for our current predicament would seem to be a group of middle aged white English men who went to the "best" schools and universities.

Ah the voice of the green party's village idiot speaks!

I have read the story and re-read it and considered the plethora of comments and must say its a very interesting scenario.

My conclusion is that I fully support these people and everything they stand for and how refreshing it is to learn that we have people who instead of grabbing benefits, seek to add value and dare I say it, opportunity for others.

My concern is that people like HJarrs, Andy R and other wasters also support the position, albeit on the basis I suspect of ignorance and sheer bloody mindedness.

That said, I wish this couple every success in the same way I hope sodastream goes on to achieve great things.

Ah! Happy New Year to you!

I don't understand your wandering post. What was the point exactly?

I shall continue to be a waster going back to work tomorrow; earning money, paying tax and spending my money in local shops like the one above.

I had to laugh at your "bring back the poor house" comment, if they did, you would be complaining that the gruel was too thick or the rocks were not being broken small enough! We have been there, it didn't work, most of society moved on, but obviously not everyone.

Ah Happy New Year to you too.

Pleasantries aside, as you struggled to comprehend the most basic comment I dare say that any extended explanation may only serve to perplex you further. Hence I will allow you to re-read at your leisure when hopefully you will grasp the basic content.

Best of luck

Shops all over this country are shutting, subsequently everyone whinges about the empty shop fronts and loss of jobs.

2 people save up (for 10 years), borrow NO money from the government, pay taxes, create work AND provide activities for children that don't involve sitting in front of a TV and they get hammered for it?!

Ridiculous...

I can think of some 438+ reasons why any afghan should not be allowed in this country.

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
The reason so many people are unhappy with so many foreign people coming to the UK to settle is because they get benefits like child benefit, tax credits, etc - many of these benefits are sent abroad - not even spent in this country often because the wife and children are still abroad, that is wrong IMO.

There's also the problem of our NHS being stretched to it's limits. This evening I took my son to our GP surgery in Eastbourne for an emergency appointment - normally we're seen fairly quickly. Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad. It is annoying - the situation is getting worse, especially now we've got a government in power that are trying to sell off our NHS to their "friends" and themselves who have their hands in the sticky pot of private health care companies.

If you go into any A&E it has so many foreign people waiting to be seen, many can hardly speak any English - so the NHS staff are spending longer trying to sort that problem out and diagnose what's wrong with them.

I used to welcome people to the UK from abroad but now I don't - because of seeing that it having a detrimental effect on the UK. Schools are having enormous problems with children who cannot speak English - this slows everything down.

The homeless from the UK, in Eastbourne are being treated abysmally in comparison to foreigners. They have accommodation that is disgusting, carpets threadbare and filthy - the foreigners have new carpets. The UK people have foul food the foreigners get very good food.

This is all wrong - this is why many of us are not happy to see any more foreigners coming into the UK and settling here.

"Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad."

How do you know? Did you ask them? Did you see their passports? Or did they just.... you know.... LOOK like "foreigners" to you?

Or perhaps it was because they looked so well-fed (on "very good food") and were showing the visible benefits of having "new carpets" - unlike the deprived native (?) population of Eastbourne?

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
The reason so many people are unhappy with so many foreign people coming to the UK to settle is because they get benefits like child benefit, tax credits, etc - many of these benefits are sent abroad - not even spent in this country often because the wife and children are still abroad, that is wrong IMO.

There's also the problem of our NHS being stretched to it's limits. This evening I took my son to our GP surgery in Eastbourne for an emergency appointment - normally we're seen fairly quickly. Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad. It is annoying - the situation is getting worse, especially now we've got a government in power that are trying to sell off our NHS to their "friends" and themselves who have their hands in the sticky pot of private health care companies.

If you go into any A&E it has so many foreign people waiting to be seen, many can hardly speak any English - so the NHS staff are spending longer trying to sort that problem out and diagnose what's wrong with them.

I used to welcome people to the UK from abroad but now I don't - because of seeing that it having a detrimental effect on the UK. Schools are having enormous problems with children who cannot speak English - this slows everything down.

The homeless from the UK, in Eastbourne are being treated abysmally in comparison to foreigners. They have accommodation that is disgusting, carpets threadbare and filthy - the foreigners have new carpets. The UK people have foul food the foreigners get very good food.

This is all wrong - this is why many of us are not happy to see any more foreigners coming into the UK and settling here.

It's people like you that are the drain on society as regular users of the NHS and I suspect additionally of the benefit system.

Rather than complaining, why don't you take yourself off and move to live in another country?