Afghan man's journey a real toy story

Afghan man's journey a real toy story

Afghan man's journey a real toy story

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An entrepreneur from Afghanistan has swapped the bullets and bombs of his homeland for a life in Brighton as a toyshop owner.

Family man Sanjar Qiam’s dreams of a safer life for his wife and newborn son, away from the war-riddled streets of Kabul, became reality when he packed up shop and moved to Sussex in July 2011.

His feat is even more impressive as he is thought to be one of the only Afghan residents to have come to Britain on a prestigious entrepreneurial visa.

A successful businessman in Kabul, Sanjar moved to the Sussex coast with his Russian wife Sonia, 29 and son Ivan, who is now two.

He ran a management consultancy company and ventured into technology and management training.
He had done well for himself in the difficult conditions of a warzone.

But success mattered little when he fell under scrutiny for starting a family with a non-Muslim, white, Russian girl.

His homely set-up, though perfect to him, was very much frowned upon by some areas of his community.

Sanjar said: “Kidnap is an active trade and you have to be wary. I had a friend who was kidnapped and it’s something the state cannot control.

“I ran a successful business so there was the financial aspect of kidnap and also having a non-Muslim wife singled us out.

“The Taliban and criminal groups are all interlinked so there was never a shortage of criminals about.”

Sanjar and his family packed their belongings and headed for India where they caught a flight to London Heathrow. He had visions of a better life in Brighton, a world away from his native Afghanistan.

He said: “It wasn’t fun growing up in Kabul, not good.

“I was living in constant fear as there was always conflict going on.

“The worst time was the early 1990s – there was no formal school system so I had to educate myself and I didn’t have electricity for five years.

After arriving in the UK, Sanjar found it difficult to find the kind of work he was used to back home.

Turning his back on what he knew, this summer he and Sonia set up a toy shop and cafe called Rocket Science in Trafalgar Street.

He said: “I tried my old profession from Afghanistan but it is really hard to get anywhere with it without an extensive network of professionals and connection with businesses.”

As well as being well-stocked in clay, coloured sands and origami sets, Rocket Science has everything you need to make a traditional Afghani kite.

The shop’s Afghan kite fighting parties are a particular highlight for Sanjar, as well as the regular craft workshops and story reading sessions in different languages.

“The business concept is simple: we are bringing innovative toys as a medium for socialisation, combining family time with positive activities and stories.

“We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China.

“The business has so far created the equivalent of two full-time jobs and we are planning to hire a third person within the next few months.

“We’re already thinking of expansion plans and are very proud to contribute to the local economy and create jobs in the current economic climate.”

And despite the obvious differences, Sanjar finds similarities between his homeland and Brighton.

He said: “Around 500 bombs dropped a day in the city. Here in Brighton, dying is generally associated with older people and old age but in Kabul, it’s children, women and families who were dying.

“We are so very happy now in Brighton. It’s a city full of positive life, creative people and really friendly faces. Since we opened up the shop we have made new friends and have got to know so many people.

“Right now we are looking forward the future, which includes moving to Hanover next year.

“Brighton reminds me of Afghanistan in that it has a lot of hills which can be a comforting reminder of my friends and family back home. But I’m happy to say now that Brighton is my home.”

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10:43am Wed 2 Jan 13

lordenglandofsussex says...

How the hell does an Afghan and a Russian citizen get the right to settle in Britain? Since when was Afghanistan and Russia part of the EU?

This kind of immigration must be put a stop to because it certainly isn't in the interests of the British people who are finding it hard to make ends meet.

Disgusting.
How the hell does an Afghan and a Russian citizen get the right to settle in Britain? Since when was Afghanistan and Russia part of the EU? This kind of immigration must be put a stop to because it certainly isn't in the interests of the British people who are finding it hard to make ends meet. Disgusting. lordenglandofsussex
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10:50am Wed 2 Jan 13

rubberflipper says...

Well, lordengland, don't expect your post to last too long here. Anyone who attacks immigration are usually silenced.

I have to agree with you. This open door policy on immigration into Britain has gone too far and some day it is going to backfire.

I really feel that most Britons are fed up to the back teeth with immigrants flooding in because there are just too many and our country is full up.

We must slam the door shut.
Well, lordengland, don't expect your post to last too long here. Anyone who attacks immigration are usually silenced. I have to agree with you. This open door policy on immigration into Britain has gone too far and some day it is going to backfire. I really feel that most Britons are fed up to the back teeth with immigrants flooding in because there are just too many and our country is full up. We must slam the door shut. rubberflipper
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11:22am Wed 2 Jan 13

aat99 says...

Oh dear ! Someone coming to our country, working hard and making a living for themselves. .... rather than sponging off the state ....
Oh dear ! Someone coming to our country, working hard and making a living for themselves. .... rather than sponging off the state .... aat99
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11:25am Wed 2 Jan 13

Beethoven says...

I knew that this would be a target for the right wing blinkered ones among us who love to criticize the success of others.

This guy appears to be the epitome of hard work and entrepreneurship. Perhaps we should look and learn from him rather than put him down
I knew that this would be a target for the right wing blinkered ones among us who love to criticize the success of others. This guy appears to be the epitome of hard work and entrepreneurship. Perhaps we should look and learn from him rather than put him down Beethoven
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11:32am Wed 2 Jan 13

Martha Gunn says...

Try reading the article M'Lud or is it beyond you? It's called an entrepreneurial visa and it's given to people who can invest or show evidence of business ability. Think football, think horseracing, or car manufacturing or a host of other economic activity that would have disappeared from the UK without foreign investment.
Try reading the article M'Lud or is it beyond you? It's called an entrepreneurial visa and it's given to people who can invest or show evidence of business ability. Think football, think horseracing, or car manufacturing or a host of other economic activity that would have disappeared from the UK without foreign investment. Martha Gunn
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11:40am Wed 2 Jan 13

Algeria Touchshriek says...

Not a big fan of immigration, but he seems like a nice, hard working chap and I wish him and his wife all the very best in 2013.

My only issue is why didn't they settle in Russia?
Not a big fan of immigration, but he seems like a nice, hard working chap and I wish him and his wife all the very best in 2013. My only issue is why didn't they settle in Russia? Algeria Touchshriek
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11:47am Wed 2 Jan 13

kkj says...

Perhaps some of these posters should do a little bit of elementary research into how, and to whom, and entrepreneur visa is granted.

Then they should perhaps bear in mind the old saying "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
Perhaps some of these posters should do a little bit of elementary research into how, and to whom, and entrepreneur visa is granted. Then they should perhaps bear in mind the old saying "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." kkj
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11:52am Wed 2 Jan 13

Charismatic Andrew says...

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
How the hell does an Afghan and a Russian citizen get the right to settle in Britain? Since when was Afghanistan and Russia part of the EU?

This kind of immigration must be put a stop to because it certainly isn't in the interests of the British people who are finding it hard to make ends meet.

Disgusting.
I suspect that the people that this entrepreneur has created jobs for may disagree that it is not in their interests.......
[quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: How the hell does an Afghan and a Russian citizen get the right to settle in Britain? Since when was Afghanistan and Russia part of the EU? This kind of immigration must be put a stop to because it certainly isn't in the interests of the British people who are finding it hard to make ends meet. Disgusting.[/p][/quote]I suspect that the people that this entrepreneur has created jobs for may disagree that it is not in their interests....... Charismatic Andrew
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11:55am Wed 2 Jan 13

clubrob6 says...

I see quite a few negative comments which no doubt will be removed when the argus notices them,most people on street level agree we have a problem with immigration,but in this case they are self supporting,adding to our economy,and most important of all intergrating with us.I wish them every sucess .
I see quite a few negative comments which no doubt will be removed when the argus notices them,most people on street level agree we have a problem with immigration,but in this case they are self supporting,adding to our economy,and most important of all intergrating with us.I wish them every sucess . clubrob6
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12:22pm Wed 2 Jan 13

maxiboy_ says...

Beethoven wrote:
I knew that this would be a target for the right wing blinkered ones among us who love to criticize the success of others.

This guy appears to be the epitome of hard work and entrepreneurship. Perhaps we should look and learn from him rather than put him down
Well, I thought about it too, but:

Where did he get the finance from, coming from such an impoverished country?

Don't forget that once they are given social security numbers they will be able to claim Tax Credits etc. They will also be using the NHS, schools and so on.

So, I agree with those who say, No. We must sponsor our own people for work because there are so many who are just scratching a living.
[quote][p][bold]Beethoven[/bold] wrote: I knew that this would be a target for the right wing blinkered ones among us who love to criticize the success of others. This guy appears to be the epitome of hard work and entrepreneurship. Perhaps we should look and learn from him rather than put him down[/p][/quote]Well, I thought about it too, but: Where did he get the finance from, coming from such an impoverished country? Don't forget that once they are given social security numbers they will be able to claim Tax Credits etc. They will also be using the NHS, schools and so on. So, I agree with those who say, No. We must sponsor our own people for work because there are so many who are just scratching a living. maxiboy_
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12:43pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Kiddon72 says...

He is without doubt hard working and entreprenurial but lets look behind the headlines:
We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China.
All good employment for the workers exporting those toys. Not many from UK it would seem.

Two full time jobs have been created.
That will be Mr and Mrs Qiam then ?

Why did he choose the UK to settle and not India his original first destination. Surely India has much more growth potential and stronger entreprenurial ethos than the UK ?
He is without doubt hard working and entreprenurial but lets look behind the headlines: We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China. All good employment for the workers exporting those toys. Not many from UK it would seem. Two full time jobs have been created. That will be Mr and Mrs Qiam then ? Why did he choose the UK to settle and not India his original first destination. Surely India has much more growth potential and stronger entreprenurial ethos than the UK ? Kiddon72
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12:48pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Crystal Ball says...

"Brighton reminds me of Afghanistan..." but without the sand, war, goats, kidnappings, British Army etc, etc, etc.
"Brighton reminds me of Afghanistan..." but without the sand, war, goats, kidnappings, British Army etc, etc, etc. Crystal Ball
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12:52pm Wed 2 Jan 13

maxiboy_ says...

Kiddon72 wrote:
He is without doubt hard working and entreprenurial but lets look behind the headlines:
We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China.
All good employment for the workers exporting those toys. Not many from UK it would seem.

Two full time jobs have been created.
That will be Mr and Mrs Qiam then ?

Why did he choose the UK to settle and not India his original first destination. Surely India has much more growth potential and stronger entreprenurial ethos than the UK ?
Look at it this way:

We have a population at over 60 million now and still rising - all caused by immigration. We have millions unemployed and further millions only able to find part-time work. We have businesses struggling and many find the business rates high and struggle to pay it.

Now, where is there room for people to come here when our own people are struggling?

Did he have he's own finances to open a shop in Brighton and pay the business rates from day 1? If he was given this special visa is that because he had thousands of pounds of his own money?

Anyone know the details?
[quote][p][bold]Kiddon72[/bold] wrote: He is without doubt hard working and entreprenurial but lets look behind the headlines: We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China. All good employment for the workers exporting those toys. Not many from UK it would seem. Two full time jobs have been created. That will be Mr and Mrs Qiam then ? Why did he choose the UK to settle and not India his original first destination. Surely India has much more growth potential and stronger entreprenurial ethos than the UK ?[/p][/quote]Look at it this way: We have a population at over 60 million now and still rising - all caused by immigration. We have millions unemployed and further millions only able to find part-time work. We have businesses struggling and many find the business rates high and struggle to pay it. Now, where is there room for people to come here when our own people are struggling? Did he have he's own finances to open a shop in Brighton and pay the business rates from day 1? If he was given this special visa is that because he had thousands of pounds of his own money? Anyone know the details? maxiboy_
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1:26pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Surely not! says...

maxiboy_ wrote:
Kiddon72 wrote:
He is without doubt hard working and entreprenurial but lets look behind the headlines:
We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China.
All good employment for the workers exporting those toys. Not many from UK it would seem.

Two full time jobs have been created.
That will be Mr and Mrs Qiam then ?

Why did he choose the UK to settle and not India his original first destination. Surely India has much more growth potential and stronger entreprenurial ethos than the UK ?
Look at it this way:

We have a population at over 60 million now and still rising - all caused by immigration. We have millions unemployed and further millions only able to find part-time work. We have businesses struggling and many find the business rates high and struggle to pay it.

Now, where is there room for people to come here when our own people are struggling?

Did he have he's own finances to open a shop in Brighton and pay the business rates from day 1? If he was given this special visa is that because he had thousands of pounds of his own money?

Anyone know the details?
Nope. But as an Englishman born and bred I don't like the sound of you. Get out of my country please!
[quote][p][bold]maxiboy_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kiddon72[/bold] wrote: He is without doubt hard working and entreprenurial but lets look behind the headlines: We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China. All good employment for the workers exporting those toys. Not many from UK it would seem. Two full time jobs have been created. That will be Mr and Mrs Qiam then ? Why did he choose the UK to settle and not India his original first destination. Surely India has much more growth potential and stronger entreprenurial ethos than the UK ?[/p][/quote]Look at it this way: We have a population at over 60 million now and still rising - all caused by immigration. We have millions unemployed and further millions only able to find part-time work. We have businesses struggling and many find the business rates high and struggle to pay it. Now, where is there room for people to come here when our own people are struggling? Did he have he's own finances to open a shop in Brighton and pay the business rates from day 1? If he was given this special visa is that because he had thousands of pounds of his own money? Anyone know the details?[/p][/quote]Nope. But as an Englishman born and bred I don't like the sound of you. Get out of my country please! Surely not!
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1:38pm Wed 2 Jan 13

SoniaP says...

I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place. SoniaP
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1:42pm Wed 2 Jan 13

maxiboy_ says...

Surely not! wrote:
maxiboy_ wrote:
Kiddon72 wrote:
He is without doubt hard working and entreprenurial but lets look behind the headlines:
We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China.
All good employment for the workers exporting those toys. Not many from UK it would seem.

Two full time jobs have been created.
That will be Mr and Mrs Qiam then ?

Why did he choose the UK to settle and not India his original first destination. Surely India has much more growth potential and stronger entreprenurial ethos than the UK ?
Look at it this way:

We have a population at over 60 million now and still rising - all caused by immigration. We have millions unemployed and further millions only able to find part-time work. We have businesses struggling and many find the business rates high and struggle to pay it.

Now, where is there room for people to come here when our own people are struggling?

Did he have he's own finances to open a shop in Brighton and pay the business rates from day 1? If he was given this special visa is that because he had thousands of pounds of his own money?

Anyone know the details?
Nope. But as an Englishman born and bred I don't like the sound of you. Get out of my country please!
I bet you weren't born in B&H though was you. Just another drifting punk from the North I expect.
[quote][p][bold]Surely not![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maxiboy_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kiddon72[/bold] wrote: He is without doubt hard working and entreprenurial but lets look behind the headlines: We are very proud of our toys selection. They come from all over the world. France, Australia, Russia, USA, Netherlands, Afghanistan and of course China. All good employment for the workers exporting those toys. Not many from UK it would seem. Two full time jobs have been created. That will be Mr and Mrs Qiam then ? Why did he choose the UK to settle and not India his original first destination. Surely India has much more growth potential and stronger entreprenurial ethos than the UK ?[/p][/quote]Look at it this way: We have a population at over 60 million now and still rising - all caused by immigration. We have millions unemployed and further millions only able to find part-time work. We have businesses struggling and many find the business rates high and struggle to pay it. Now, where is there room for people to come here when our own people are struggling? Did he have he's own finances to open a shop in Brighton and pay the business rates from day 1? If he was given this special visa is that because he had thousands of pounds of his own money? Anyone know the details?[/p][/quote]Nope. But as an Englishman born and bred I don't like the sound of you. Get out of my country please![/p][/quote]I bet you weren't born in B&H though was you. Just another drifting punk from the North I expect. maxiboy_
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2:09pm Wed 2 Jan 13

ILoveSussex says...

SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Good for you and welcome! I'll be stopping by next time I'm in town. Brighton is proud to be a multi-cultural and welcoming city. Unfortunately, internet forums like this always attract the crazy right-wingers - but their views are not shared for most of us.
[quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Good for you and welcome! I'll be stopping by next time I'm in town. Brighton is proud to be a multi-cultural and welcoming city. Unfortunately, internet forums like this always attract the crazy right-wingers - but their views are not shared for most of us. ILoveSussex
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2:17pm Wed 2 Jan 13

DC78 says...

SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
[quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments! DC78
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2:21pm Wed 2 Jan 13

SoniaP says...

ILoveSussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Good for you and welcome! I'll be stopping by next time I'm in town. Brighton is proud to be a multi-cultural and welcoming city. Unfortunately, internet forums like this always attract the crazy right-wingers - but their views are not shared for most of us.
Thank you very much! Feel better already. I was shocked at first, however, I do understand how these things work - I know it's not representative as we've met so many great and supportive people along the way. Britain is a great country and Brighton is very welcoming and inspiring. Thank you again and welcome anytime.
[quote][p][bold]ILoveSussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Good for you and welcome! I'll be stopping by next time I'm in town. Brighton is proud to be a multi-cultural and welcoming city. Unfortunately, internet forums like this always attract the crazy right-wingers - but their views are not shared for most of us.[/p][/quote]Thank you very much! Feel better already. I was shocked at first, however, I do understand how these things work - I know it's not representative as we've met so many great and supportive people along the way. Britain is a great country and Brighton is very welcoming and inspiring. Thank you again and welcome anytime. SoniaP
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2:25pm Wed 2 Jan 13

SoniaP says...

DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
[quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:) SoniaP
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2:31pm Wed 2 Jan 13

lordenglandofsussex says...

SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure!

Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese!

Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
[quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha! lordenglandofsussex
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2:39pm Wed 2 Jan 13

lordenglandofsussex says...

ILoveSussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Good for you and welcome! I'll be stopping by next time I'm in town. Brighton is proud to be a multi-cultural and welcoming city. Unfortunately, internet forums like this always attract the crazy right-wingers - but their views are not shared for most of us.
You have it wrong.

This forum attracts crazy left-wingers who spout rubbish, create multiple identities, post en-mass complete propaganda about Brighton being multicultural when it is an English city and generate fictional postings like those above to try and warp the truth.

Reminds me of the Marxist Party.
[quote][p][bold]ILoveSussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Good for you and welcome! I'll be stopping by next time I'm in town. Brighton is proud to be a multi-cultural and welcoming city. Unfortunately, internet forums like this always attract the crazy right-wingers - but their views are not shared for most of us.[/p][/quote]You have it wrong. This forum attracts crazy left-wingers who spout rubbish, create multiple identities, post en-mass complete propaganda about Brighton being multicultural when it is an English city and generate fictional postings like those above to try and warp the truth. Reminds me of the Marxist Party. lordenglandofsussex
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2:40pm Wed 2 Jan 13

kkj says...

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure!

Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese!

Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
I know I shouldn't but sometimes the temptation's too much.

For the sake of clarity, this intended primarily, but not necessarily exclusively, for lordenglandofsussex.


I refer you my post of 11:47, mostly to the second paragraph.
[quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha![/p][/quote]I know I shouldn't but sometimes the temptation's too much. For the sake of clarity, this intended primarily, but not necessarily exclusively, for lordenglandofsussex. I refer you my post of 11:47, mostly to the second paragraph. kkj
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2:41pm Wed 2 Jan 13

DC78 says...

SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
If all you were to do is read Argus comments, you would think Brighton has gone to hell in a handbag.

Well, it hasn't. The trolls that comment here represent nothing about the real Brighton.

Argus commentators are usually xenophobic, racist, homophobic, ugly trolls and bigots who have never ventured outside their dark closets to see the sun.
[quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]If all you were to do is read Argus comments, you would think Brighton has gone to hell in a handbag. Well, it hasn't. The trolls that comment here represent nothing about the real Brighton. Argus commentators are usually xenophobic, racist, homophobic, ugly trolls and bigots who have never ventured outside their dark closets to see the sun. DC78
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2:45pm Wed 2 Jan 13

DC78 says...

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure!

Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese!

Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
你好
[quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha![/p][/quote]你好 DC78
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2:51pm Wed 2 Jan 13

DC78 says...

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia,

Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays.

Think Daily Mail on speed.

You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise.

PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure!

Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese!

Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
肏你祖宗十八
[quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha![/p][/quote]肏你祖宗十八 DC78
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2:51pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Andy R says...

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......
[quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha![/p][/quote]You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk? I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid...... Andy R
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2:56pm Wed 2 Jan 13

lordenglandofsussex says...

Andy R wrote:
lordenglandofsussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......
Didn't take long for you to come out of your coffin did it?

What happened, Labour haven't delivered your supply of blood lately?
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha![/p][/quote]You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk? I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......[/p][/quote]Didn't take long for you to come out of your coffin did it? What happened, Labour haven't delivered your supply of blood lately? lordenglandofsussex
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3:03pm Wed 2 Jan 13

SoniaP says...

Andy R wrote:
lordenglandofsussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......
I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha![/p][/quote]You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk? I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......[/p][/quote]I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us. SoniaP
  • Score: 0

3:13pm Wed 2 Jan 13

kkj says...

SoniaP wrote:
Andy R wrote:
lordenglandofsussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......
I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.
There really isn't that much anger directed towards you. What there is, is quite a bit of trolling, designed to stir a reaction.

The people doing this are, generally speaking, pretty inadequate individuals. The vast majority of the population of Brighton, Hove, Sussex and the UK, and actually supportive of anyone, from wherever, who shows a bit of gumption and gets of their backsides and actually does something worthwhile.

I'd wager that the most productive thing most of these haters who post on here can manage is to get their shoes on the right feet.
[quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha![/p][/quote]You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk? I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......[/p][/quote]I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.[/p][/quote]There really isn't that much anger directed towards you. What there is, is quite a bit of trolling, designed to stir a reaction. The people doing this are, generally speaking, pretty inadequate individuals. The vast majority of the population of Brighton, Hove, Sussex and the UK, and actually supportive of anyone, from wherever, who shows a bit of gumption and gets of their backsides and actually does something worthwhile. I'd wager that the most productive thing most of these haters who post on here can manage is to get their shoes on the right feet. kkj
  • Score: 0

3:15pm Wed 2 Jan 13

ecw says...

SoniaP wrote:
Andy R wrote:
lordenglandofsussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......
I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.
I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.
[quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha![/p][/quote]You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk? I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......[/p][/quote]I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.[/p][/quote]I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration. ecw
  • Score: 0

3:30pm Wed 2 Jan 13

lordenglandofsussex says...

ecw wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
Andy R wrote:
lordenglandofsussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......
I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.
I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.
And then the moderator (who is probably a Labour supporter) then deletes all those who are anti-immigration.

To put it plainly the majority who are against immigration are so because they see the destruction of our native people, culture and heritage handed to us by our forefathers.

The irony is that the very same left-wing fascists who attack the English patriots openly support Palestinian patriots who are after all only interested in saving their people and heritage. Imagine the day when the Palestinians do get their own statehood but millions of immigrants flooded in from across the globe. Would they be happy?
[quote][p][bold]ecw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha![/p][/quote]You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk? I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......[/p][/quote]I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.[/p][/quote]I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.[/p][/quote]And then the moderator (who is probably a Labour supporter) then deletes all those who are anti-immigration. To put it plainly the majority who are against immigration are so because they see the destruction of our native people, culture and heritage handed to us by our forefathers. The irony is that the very same left-wing fascists who attack the English patriots openly support Palestinian patriots who are after all only interested in saving their people and heritage. Imagine the day when the Palestinians do get their own statehood but millions of immigrants flooded in from across the globe. Would they be happy? lordenglandofsussex
  • Score: 0

3:33pm Wed 2 Jan 13

SoniaP says...

ecw wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
Andy R wrote:
lordenglandofsussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......
I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.
I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.
I understand and agree that immigration is an important issue and needs to be debated. However, I believe, that we are not that negative example of how immigration policies don't work. We came here on entrepreneur visa - we invest, we create jobs (not only for ourselves) - we don't claim anything and never will and it's just sad to see comments (which feel very personal) like" get out of my country, disgusting" etc.
[quote][p][bold]ecw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha![/p][/quote]You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk? I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......[/p][/quote]I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.[/p][/quote]I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.[/p][/quote]I understand and agree that immigration is an important issue and needs to be debated. However, I believe, that we are not that negative example of how immigration policies don't work. We came here on entrepreneur visa - we invest, we create jobs (not only for ourselves) - we don't claim anything and never will and it's just sad to see comments (which feel very personal) like" get out of my country, disgusting" etc. SoniaP
  • Score: 0

4:14pm Wed 2 Jan 13

dawind says...

SoniaP wrote:
ecw wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
Andy R wrote:
lordenglandofsussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......
I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.
I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.
I understand and agree that immigration is an important issue and needs to be debated. However, I believe, that we are not that negative example of how immigration policies don't work. We came here on entrepreneur visa - we invest, we create jobs (not only for ourselves) - we don't claim anything and never will and it's just sad to see comments (which feel very personal) like" get out of my country, disgusting" etc.
Now let me see....I can choose to side with lordenglishofBNP and a few other small minded cretins....OR ....the likes of AndyR and SoniaP who both sound like rational likeable progressive individuals with whom I might enjoy a cup of tea...
em....Tough Choice !
[quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ecw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha![/p][/quote]You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk? I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......[/p][/quote]I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.[/p][/quote]I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.[/p][/quote]I understand and agree that immigration is an important issue and needs to be debated. However, I believe, that we are not that negative example of how immigration policies don't work. We came here on entrepreneur visa - we invest, we create jobs (not only for ourselves) - we don't claim anything and never will and it's just sad to see comments (which feel very personal) like" get out of my country, disgusting" etc.[/p][/quote]Now let me see....I can choose to side with lordenglishofBNP and a few other small minded cretins....OR ....the likes of AndyR and SoniaP who both sound like rational likeable progressive individuals with whom I might enjoy a cup of tea... em....Tough Choice ! dawind
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4:44pm Wed 2 Jan 13

kkj says...

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
ecw wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
Andy R wrote:
lordenglandofsussex wrote:
SoniaP wrote:
DC78 wrote:
SoniaP wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.
Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments!
Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)
Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha!
You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk?

I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......
I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.
I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.
And then the moderator (who is probably a Labour supporter) then deletes all those who are anti-immigration.

To put it plainly the majority who are against immigration are so because they see the destruction of our native people, culture and heritage handed to us by our forefathers.

The irony is that the very same left-wing fascists who attack the English patriots openly support Palestinian patriots who are after all only interested in saving their people and heritage. Imagine the day when the Palestinians do get their own statehood but millions of immigrants flooded in from across the globe. Would they be happy?
lordeofs - The 'destruction of our native people' happened centuries back when the Angles and Saxons arrived from mainland Europe.

More recently, 'our culture and heritage' has been shaped by immigrants, for example, (the German) Prince Albert given us the many of the trappings of our traditional 'English' Christmas.

You have access to the internet - why not use it to do a bit of research before spouting off?
[quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ecw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SoniaP[/bold] wrote: I was surprised and honestly very saddened to see quite a lot of negative comments about such a positive place as a toy store, family cafe and children's workshop place we set up in Brighton (Thank you for the positive ones, though - it really matters to us). I can't help not to take it personally and I can see it is personal. I know we don't owe anyone's an explanation but I just wanted to be clear - we haven't borrowed a single penny from British government, we pay taxes, we pay business rates, we set up the whole thing with our own money which we've been saving for the last 10 years. We've got plenty of toys from the UK, we stock art work of local artists and art students, we employ not only Mr and Mrs QIam, but several local artists and language teachers, who run children's workshops at Rocket Science. We feel privileged to live in this country and be law abiding and contributing to the society citizens. We work very hard and it pays off - literally everyone, who comes to our store says it's a great place.[/p][/quote]Hi Sonia, Please don't take the negative comments personally. The usual Argus commentators hate anything to do with fornurs, greens, travelers, benefit scroungers and gays. Think Daily Mail on speed. You are obviously a huge asset to this country and I wish you the very best in your enterprise. PS. Stop reading The Argus comments![/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I guess, it's time to stop reading the comments and do something constructive instead:)[/p][/quote]Oh sure! Do you think the readers here were born yesterday? If those posts are genuine I'm Chinese! Utter clap trap. Two people from Afghanistan and Russia just in and reading the Argus online. Ha ha ha ha![/p][/quote]You're really quite a bitter person aren't you? What happened to you to make you such a jerk? I'm guessing most people would not find it that far-fetched that people who knew that they were the subject of a newspaper story would be checking online to see how it was being received. Plenty of easily-checked info given by Sonia in her post - if you're really that desperately paranoid......[/p][/quote]I feel very sad that our story, which ment to be positive (as we don't take anything from anyone as several commentators here implied, doing something creative in a city we came to love) turned into this... We are real people and we do read Argus comments. We didn't even know the article was out until one of the the customers said she just read a story about us - so naturally, I checked if it was online. I just don't understand why there is so much anger towards us.[/p][/quote]I don't think the anger is directed against you personally - it's just that you represent a real problem that we have in this country which has immigration policies at the heart of it. It's a shame it triggers such angry sounding posts and it's an even greater shame that the people who see we have a problem get dismissed as rightwing etc - it is an important debate that needs to be had without fear of being accused of racism, bigotry etc etc. The Argus don;t help matters by writing articles which are obviously intended to be inflammatory - any chance to spark a debate they grab it - it's usually designed to fuel angry exchanges between cyclists and car users. This time it's immigration.[/p][/quote]And then the moderator (who is probably a Labour supporter) then deletes all those who are anti-immigration. To put it plainly the majority who are against immigration are so because they see the destruction of our native people, culture and heritage handed to us by our forefathers. The irony is that the very same left-wing fascists who attack the English patriots openly support Palestinian patriots who are after all only interested in saving their people and heritage. Imagine the day when the Palestinians do get their own statehood but millions of immigrants flooded in from across the globe. Would they be happy?[/p][/quote]lordeofs - The 'destruction of our native people' happened centuries back when the Angles and Saxons arrived from mainland Europe. More recently, 'our culture and heritage' has been shaped by immigrants, for example, (the German) Prince Albert given us the many of the trappings of our traditional 'English' Christmas. You have access to the internet - why not use it to do a bit of research before spouting off? kkj
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6:20pm Wed 2 Jan 13

thevoiceoftruth says...

Some of the comments on here are awful. I welcome you both to Brighton and hope your toy shop is a huge success. I shall definitely pop in next time I'm in town. Ignore the bigots who are just jealous because they have no ambition themselves and could never learn another language fluently and set up a business in a different country. That's why they can spend all day commenting on the Argus. Wishing you all the best!
Some of the comments on here are awful. I welcome you both to Brighton and hope your toy shop is a huge success. I shall definitely pop in next time I'm in town. Ignore the bigots who are just jealous because they have no ambition themselves and could never learn another language fluently and set up a business in a different country. That's why they can spend all day commenting on the Argus. Wishing you all the best! thevoiceoftruth
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7:07pm Wed 2 Jan 13

nosolution says...

20 years ago 99% of people would wish the 2 Afgans the best of success as I do,however the disastrous open door policy of the last labour government saw the population increase by a million a year,most in the south east.Schools are rammed,hospitals in crisis,roads cannot cope,housing in dire straits although the countryside has been built on at the rate of a town the size of Eastbourne year on year.People feel that their hospitality has been spat on by a failed far left/big business policy and it,s notable that even long term immigrants who have been here for 20plus years feel the same way.This country is turning into a metropolitan leech-like parisitic state that feeds off over countrys to survive.Adults that come here were brought up and educated in their own countries at some expense only for them not to repay their home countries but to clear off to England in search of their fortune...
20 years ago 99% of people would wish the 2 Afgans the best of success as I do,however the disastrous open door policy of the last labour government saw the population increase by a million a year,most in the south east.Schools are rammed,hospitals in crisis,roads cannot cope,housing in dire straits although the countryside has been built on at the rate of a town the size of Eastbourne year on year.People feel that their hospitality has been spat on by a failed far left/big business policy and it,s notable that even long term immigrants who have been here for 20plus years feel the same way.This country is turning into a metropolitan leech-like parisitic state that feeds off over countrys to survive.Adults that come here were brought up and educated in their own countries at some expense only for them not to repay their home countries but to clear off to England in search of their fortune... nosolution
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8:42pm Wed 2 Jan 13

HJarrs says...

I look forward to visiting your shop Sanjar and Sonia, we have a small expert that would be very interested in your stock. What a nice change it is to have Afganistan in a positive story and I hope that you make a success of your business in B&H and enjoy living here.

I am afraid that you have to forgive some of the posters, they like to believe that they do not live in an interconnected world where all countries interlinked. Britain is in relative decline at the moment and these same posters will look for easy targets to blame such as immigrants, travellers, squatters etc. The funny thing is the biggest culprets for our current predicament would seem to be a group of middle aged white English men who went to the "best" schools and universities.
I look forward to visiting your shop Sanjar and Sonia, we have a small expert that would be very interested in your stock. What a nice change it is to have Afganistan in a positive story and I hope that you make a success of your business in B&H and enjoy living here. I am afraid that you have to forgive some of the posters, they like to believe that they do not live in an interconnected world where all countries interlinked. Britain is in relative decline at the moment and these same posters will look for easy targets to blame such as immigrants, travellers, squatters etc. The funny thing is the biggest culprets for our current predicament would seem to be a group of middle aged white English men who went to the "best" schools and universities. HJarrs
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9:08pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

HJarrs wrote:
I look forward to visiting your shop Sanjar and Sonia, we have a small expert that would be very interested in your stock. What a nice change it is to have Afganistan in a positive story and I hope that you make a success of your business in B&H and enjoy living here.

I am afraid that you have to forgive some of the posters, they like to believe that they do not live in an interconnected world where all countries interlinked. Britain is in relative decline at the moment and these same posters will look for easy targets to blame such as immigrants, travellers, squatters etc. The funny thing is the biggest culprets for our current predicament would seem to be a group of middle aged white English men who went to the "best" schools and universities.
Ah the voice of the green party's village idiot speaks!

I have read the story and re-read it and considered the plethora of comments and must say its a very interesting scenario.

My conclusion is that I fully support these people and everything they stand for and how refreshing it is to learn that we have people who instead of grabbing benefits, seek to add value and dare I say it, opportunity for others.

My concern is that people like HJarrs, Andy R and other wasters also support the position, albeit on the basis I suspect of ignorance and sheer bloody mindedness.

That said, I wish this couple every success in the same way I hope sodastream goes on to achieve great things.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: I look forward to visiting your shop Sanjar and Sonia, we have a small expert that would be very interested in your stock. What a nice change it is to have Afganistan in a positive story and I hope that you make a success of your business in B&H and enjoy living here. I am afraid that you have to forgive some of the posters, they like to believe that they do not live in an interconnected world where all countries interlinked. Britain is in relative decline at the moment and these same posters will look for easy targets to blame such as immigrants, travellers, squatters etc. The funny thing is the biggest culprets for our current predicament would seem to be a group of middle aged white English men who went to the "best" schools and universities.[/p][/quote]Ah the voice of the green party's village idiot speaks! I have read the story and re-read it and considered the plethora of comments and must say its a very interesting scenario. My conclusion is that I fully support these people and everything they stand for and how refreshing it is to learn that we have people who instead of grabbing benefits, seek to add value and dare I say it, opportunity for others. My concern is that people like HJarrs, Andy R and other wasters also support the position, albeit on the basis I suspect of ignorance and sheer bloody mindedness. That said, I wish this couple every success in the same way I hope sodastream goes on to achieve great things. Somethingsarejustwrong
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9:08pm Wed 2 Jan 13

getThisCoalitionOut says...

The reason so many people are unhappy with so many foreign people coming to the UK to settle is because they get benefits like child benefit, tax credits, etc - many of these benefits are sent abroad - not even spent in this country often because the wife and children are still abroad, that is wrong IMO.

There's also the problem of our NHS being stretched to it's limits. This evening I took my son to our GP surgery in Eastbourne for an emergency appointment - normally we're seen fairly quickly. Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad. It is annoying - the situation is getting worse, especially now we've got a government in power that are trying to sell off our NHS to their "friends" and themselves who have their hands in the sticky pot of private health care companies.

If you go into any A&E it has so many foreign people waiting to be seen, many can hardly speak any English - so the NHS staff are spending longer trying to sort that problem out and diagnose what's wrong with them.

I used to welcome people to the UK from abroad but now I don't - because of seeing that it having a detrimental effect on the UK. Schools are having enormous problems with children who cannot speak English - this slows everything down.

The homeless from the UK, in Eastbourne are being treated abysmally in comparison to foreigners. They have accommodation that is disgusting, carpets threadbare and filthy - the foreigners have new carpets. The UK people have foul food the foreigners get very good food.

This is all wrong - this is why many of us are not happy to see any more foreigners coming into the UK and settling here.
The reason so many people are unhappy with so many foreign people coming to the UK to settle is because they get benefits like child benefit, tax credits, etc - many of these benefits are sent abroad - not even spent in this country often because the wife and children are still abroad, that is wrong IMO. There's also the problem of our NHS being stretched to it's limits. This evening I took my son to our GP surgery in Eastbourne for an emergency appointment - normally we're seen fairly quickly. Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad. It is annoying - the situation is getting worse, especially now we've got a government in power that are trying to sell off our NHS to their "friends" and themselves who have their hands in the sticky pot of private health care companies. If you go into any A&E it has so many foreign people waiting to be seen, many can hardly speak any English - so the NHS staff are spending longer trying to sort that problem out and diagnose what's wrong with them. I used to welcome people to the UK from abroad but now I don't - because of seeing that it having a detrimental effect on the UK. Schools are having enormous problems with children who cannot speak English - this slows everything down. The homeless from the UK, in Eastbourne are being treated abysmally in comparison to foreigners. They have accommodation that is disgusting, carpets threadbare and filthy - the foreigners have new carpets. The UK people have foul food the foreigners get very good food. This is all wrong - this is why many of us are not happy to see any more foreigners coming into the UK and settling here. getThisCoalitionOut
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9:15pm Wed 2 Jan 13

thommy says...

Fabulous comments, especially from DC78. i want some of what he/she is on, the level of derangement is immeasurable. It is pointless having any form of debate with these Euro socialist zealots. I say, put the continuing EU membership to the vote. Cameron, as the previous imbeciles, Blair, Brown, Major, etc all knew. The majority of british people want out of the EU. We will then have some control as to who visits Britain.
Fabulous comments, especially from DC78. i want some of what he/she is on, the level of derangement is immeasurable. It is pointless having any form of debate with these Euro socialist zealots. I say, put the continuing EU membership to the vote. Cameron, as the previous imbeciles, Blair, Brown, Major, etc all knew. The majority of british people want out of the EU. We will then have some control as to who visits Britain. thommy
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9:19pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
The reason so many people are unhappy with so many foreign people coming to the UK to settle is because they get benefits like child benefit, tax credits, etc - many of these benefits are sent abroad - not even spent in this country often because the wife and children are still abroad, that is wrong IMO.

There's also the problem of our NHS being stretched to it's limits. This evening I took my son to our GP surgery in Eastbourne for an emergency appointment - normally we're seen fairly quickly. Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad. It is annoying - the situation is getting worse, especially now we've got a government in power that are trying to sell off our NHS to their "friends" and themselves who have their hands in the sticky pot of private health care companies.

If you go into any A&E it has so many foreign people waiting to be seen, many can hardly speak any English - so the NHS staff are spending longer trying to sort that problem out and diagnose what's wrong with them.

I used to welcome people to the UK from abroad but now I don't - because of seeing that it having a detrimental effect on the UK. Schools are having enormous problems with children who cannot speak English - this slows everything down.

The homeless from the UK, in Eastbourne are being treated abysmally in comparison to foreigners. They have accommodation that is disgusting, carpets threadbare and filthy - the foreigners have new carpets. The UK people have foul food the foreigners get very good food.

This is all wrong - this is why many of us are not happy to see any more foreigners coming into the UK and settling here.
The homeless should be removed from the streets and ideally placed in 'poor houses', or incarcerated.
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: The reason so many people are unhappy with so many foreign people coming to the UK to settle is because they get benefits like child benefit, tax credits, etc - many of these benefits are sent abroad - not even spent in this country often because the wife and children are still abroad, that is wrong IMO. There's also the problem of our NHS being stretched to it's limits. This evening I took my son to our GP surgery in Eastbourne for an emergency appointment - normally we're seen fairly quickly. Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad. It is annoying - the situation is getting worse, especially now we've got a government in power that are trying to sell off our NHS to their "friends" and themselves who have their hands in the sticky pot of private health care companies. If you go into any A&E it has so many foreign people waiting to be seen, many can hardly speak any English - so the NHS staff are spending longer trying to sort that problem out and diagnose what's wrong with them. I used to welcome people to the UK from abroad but now I don't - because of seeing that it having a detrimental effect on the UK. Schools are having enormous problems with children who cannot speak English - this slows everything down. The homeless from the UK, in Eastbourne are being treated abysmally in comparison to foreigners. They have accommodation that is disgusting, carpets threadbare and filthy - the foreigners have new carpets. The UK people have foul food the foreigners get very good food. This is all wrong - this is why many of us are not happy to see any more foreigners coming into the UK and settling here.[/p][/quote]The homeless should be removed from the streets and ideally placed in 'poor houses', or incarcerated. Somethingsarejustwrong
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9:52pm Wed 2 Jan 13

HJarrs says...

Somethingsarejustwro
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wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
I look forward to visiting your shop Sanjar and Sonia, we have a small expert that would be very interested in your stock. What a nice change it is to have Afganistan in a positive story and I hope that you make a success of your business in B&H and enjoy living here.

I am afraid that you have to forgive some of the posters, they like to believe that they do not live in an interconnected world where all countries interlinked. Britain is in relative decline at the moment and these same posters will look for easy targets to blame such as immigrants, travellers, squatters etc. The funny thing is the biggest culprets for our current predicament would seem to be a group of middle aged white English men who went to the "best" schools and universities.
Ah the voice of the green party's village idiot speaks!

I have read the story and re-read it and considered the plethora of comments and must say its a very interesting scenario.

My conclusion is that I fully support these people and everything they stand for and how refreshing it is to learn that we have people who instead of grabbing benefits, seek to add value and dare I say it, opportunity for others.

My concern is that people like HJarrs, Andy R and other wasters also support the position, albeit on the basis I suspect of ignorance and sheer bloody mindedness.

That said, I wish this couple every success in the same way I hope sodastream goes on to achieve great things.
Ah! Happy New Year to you!

I don't understand your wandering post. What was the point exactly?

I shall continue to be a waster going back to work tomorrow; earning money, paying tax and spending my money in local shops like the one above.

I had to laugh at your "bring back the poor house" comment, if they did, you would be complaining that the gruel was too thick or the rocks were not being broken small enough! We have been there, it didn't work, most of society moved on, but obviously not everyone.
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: I look forward to visiting your shop Sanjar and Sonia, we have a small expert that would be very interested in your stock. What a nice change it is to have Afganistan in a positive story and I hope that you make a success of your business in B&H and enjoy living here. I am afraid that you have to forgive some of the posters, they like to believe that they do not live in an interconnected world where all countries interlinked. Britain is in relative decline at the moment and these same posters will look for easy targets to blame such as immigrants, travellers, squatters etc. The funny thing is the biggest culprets for our current predicament would seem to be a group of middle aged white English men who went to the "best" schools and universities.[/p][/quote]Ah the voice of the green party's village idiot speaks! I have read the story and re-read it and considered the plethora of comments and must say its a very interesting scenario. My conclusion is that I fully support these people and everything they stand for and how refreshing it is to learn that we have people who instead of grabbing benefits, seek to add value and dare I say it, opportunity for others. My concern is that people like HJarrs, Andy R and other wasters also support the position, albeit on the basis I suspect of ignorance and sheer bloody mindedness. That said, I wish this couple every success in the same way I hope sodastream goes on to achieve great things.[/p][/quote]Ah! Happy New Year to you! I don't understand your wandering post. What was the point exactly? I shall continue to be a waster going back to work tomorrow; earning money, paying tax and spending my money in local shops like the one above. I had to laugh at your "bring back the poor house" comment, if they did, you would be complaining that the gruel was too thick or the rocks were not being broken small enough! We have been there, it didn't work, most of society moved on, but obviously not everyone. HJarrs
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10:10pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

HJarrs wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
I look forward to visiting your shop Sanjar and Sonia, we have a small expert that would be very interested in your stock. What a nice change it is to have Afganistan in a positive story and I hope that you make a success of your business in B&H and enjoy living here.

I am afraid that you have to forgive some of the posters, they like to believe that they do not live in an interconnected world where all countries interlinked. Britain is in relative decline at the moment and these same posters will look for easy targets to blame such as immigrants, travellers, squatters etc. The funny thing is the biggest culprets for our current predicament would seem to be a group of middle aged white English men who went to the "best" schools and universities.
Ah the voice of the green party's village idiot speaks!

I have read the story and re-read it and considered the plethora of comments and must say its a very interesting scenario.

My conclusion is that I fully support these people and everything they stand for and how refreshing it is to learn that we have people who instead of grabbing benefits, seek to add value and dare I say it, opportunity for others.

My concern is that people like HJarrs, Andy R and other wasters also support the position, albeit on the basis I suspect of ignorance and sheer bloody mindedness.

That said, I wish this couple every success in the same way I hope sodastream goes on to achieve great things.
Ah! Happy New Year to you!

I don't understand your wandering post. What was the point exactly?

I shall continue to be a waster going back to work tomorrow; earning money, paying tax and spending my money in local shops like the one above.

I had to laugh at your "bring back the poor house" comment, if they did, you would be complaining that the gruel was too thick or the rocks were not being broken small enough! We have been there, it didn't work, most of society moved on, but obviously not everyone.
Ah Happy New Year to you too.

Pleasantries aside, as you struggled to comprehend the most basic comment I dare say that any extended explanation may only serve to perplex you further. Hence I will allow you to re-read at your leisure when hopefully you will grasp the basic content.

Best of luck
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: I look forward to visiting your shop Sanjar and Sonia, we have a small expert that would be very interested in your stock. What a nice change it is to have Afganistan in a positive story and I hope that you make a success of your business in B&H and enjoy living here. I am afraid that you have to forgive some of the posters, they like to believe that they do not live in an interconnected world where all countries interlinked. Britain is in relative decline at the moment and these same posters will look for easy targets to blame such as immigrants, travellers, squatters etc. The funny thing is the biggest culprets for our current predicament would seem to be a group of middle aged white English men who went to the "best" schools and universities.[/p][/quote]Ah the voice of the green party's village idiot speaks! I have read the story and re-read it and considered the plethora of comments and must say its a very interesting scenario. My conclusion is that I fully support these people and everything they stand for and how refreshing it is to learn that we have people who instead of grabbing benefits, seek to add value and dare I say it, opportunity for others. My concern is that people like HJarrs, Andy R and other wasters also support the position, albeit on the basis I suspect of ignorance and sheer bloody mindedness. That said, I wish this couple every success in the same way I hope sodastream goes on to achieve great things.[/p][/quote]Ah! Happy New Year to you! I don't understand your wandering post. What was the point exactly? I shall continue to be a waster going back to work tomorrow; earning money, paying tax and spending my money in local shops like the one above. I had to laugh at your "bring back the poor house" comment, if they did, you would be complaining that the gruel was too thick or the rocks were not being broken small enough! We have been there, it didn't work, most of society moved on, but obviously not everyone.[/p][/quote]Ah Happy New Year to you too. Pleasantries aside, as you struggled to comprehend the most basic comment I dare say that any extended explanation may only serve to perplex you further. Hence I will allow you to re-read at your leisure when hopefully you will grasp the basic content. Best of luck Somethingsarejustwrong
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2:33pm Thu 3 Jan 13

mhaiti says...

Shops all over this country are shutting, subsequently everyone whinges about the empty shop fronts and loss of jobs.

2 people save up (for 10 years), borrow NO money from the government, pay taxes, create work AND provide activities for children that don't involve sitting in front of a TV and they get hammered for it?!

Ridiculous...
Shops all over this country are shutting, subsequently everyone whinges about the empty shop fronts and loss of jobs. 2 people save up (for 10 years), borrow NO money from the government, pay taxes, create work AND provide activities for children that don't involve sitting in front of a TV and they get hammered for it?! Ridiculous... mhaiti
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5:48pm Thu 3 Jan 13

John Steed says...

I can think of some 438+ reasons why any afghan should not be allowed in this country.
I can think of some 438+ reasons why any afghan should not be allowed in this country. John Steed
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1:43am Sun 6 Jan 13

trystero says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
The reason so many people are unhappy with so many foreign people coming to the UK to settle is because they get benefits like child benefit, tax credits, etc - many of these benefits are sent abroad - not even spent in this country often because the wife and children are still abroad, that is wrong IMO.

There's also the problem of our NHS being stretched to it's limits. This evening I took my son to our GP surgery in Eastbourne for an emergency appointment - normally we're seen fairly quickly. Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad. It is annoying - the situation is getting worse, especially now we've got a government in power that are trying to sell off our NHS to their "friends" and themselves who have their hands in the sticky pot of private health care companies.

If you go into any A&E it has so many foreign people waiting to be seen, many can hardly speak any English - so the NHS staff are spending longer trying to sort that problem out and diagnose what's wrong with them.

I used to welcome people to the UK from abroad but now I don't - because of seeing that it having a detrimental effect on the UK. Schools are having enormous problems with children who cannot speak English - this slows everything down.

The homeless from the UK, in Eastbourne are being treated abysmally in comparison to foreigners. They have accommodation that is disgusting, carpets threadbare and filthy - the foreigners have new carpets. The UK people have foul food the foreigners get very good food.

This is all wrong - this is why many of us are not happy to see any more foreigners coming into the UK and settling here.
"Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad."

How do you know? Did you ask them? Did you see their passports? Or did they just.... you know.... LOOK like "foreigners" to you?

Or perhaps it was because they looked so well-fed (on "very good food") and were showing the visible benefits of having "new carpets" - unlike the deprived native (?) population of Eastbourne?
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: The reason so many people are unhappy with so many foreign people coming to the UK to settle is because they get benefits like child benefit, tax credits, etc - many of these benefits are sent abroad - not even spent in this country often because the wife and children are still abroad, that is wrong IMO. There's also the problem of our NHS being stretched to it's limits. This evening I took my son to our GP surgery in Eastbourne for an emergency appointment - normally we're seen fairly quickly. Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad. It is annoying - the situation is getting worse, especially now we've got a government in power that are trying to sell off our NHS to their "friends" and themselves who have their hands in the sticky pot of private health care companies. If you go into any A&E it has so many foreign people waiting to be seen, many can hardly speak any English - so the NHS staff are spending longer trying to sort that problem out and diagnose what's wrong with them. I used to welcome people to the UK from abroad but now I don't - because of seeing that it having a detrimental effect on the UK. Schools are having enormous problems with children who cannot speak English - this slows everything down. The homeless from the UK, in Eastbourne are being treated abysmally in comparison to foreigners. They have accommodation that is disgusting, carpets threadbare and filthy - the foreigners have new carpets. The UK people have foul food the foreigners get very good food. This is all wrong - this is why many of us are not happy to see any more foreigners coming into the UK and settling here.[/p][/quote]"Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad." How do you know? Did you ask them? Did you see their passports? Or did they just.... you know.... LOOK like "foreigners" to you? Or perhaps it was because they looked so well-fed (on "very good food") and were showing the visible benefits of having "new carpets" - unlike the deprived native (?) population of Eastbourne? trystero
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6:20am Sun 6 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
The reason so many people are unhappy with so many foreign people coming to the UK to settle is because they get benefits like child benefit, tax credits, etc - many of these benefits are sent abroad - not even spent in this country often because the wife and children are still abroad, that is wrong IMO.

There's also the problem of our NHS being stretched to it's limits. This evening I took my son to our GP surgery in Eastbourne for an emergency appointment - normally we're seen fairly quickly. Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad. It is annoying - the situation is getting worse, especially now we've got a government in power that are trying to sell off our NHS to their "friends" and themselves who have their hands in the sticky pot of private health care companies.

If you go into any A&E it has so many foreign people waiting to be seen, many can hardly speak any English - so the NHS staff are spending longer trying to sort that problem out and diagnose what's wrong with them.

I used to welcome people to the UK from abroad but now I don't - because of seeing that it having a detrimental effect on the UK. Schools are having enormous problems with children who cannot speak English - this slows everything down.

The homeless from the UK, in Eastbourne are being treated abysmally in comparison to foreigners. They have accommodation that is disgusting, carpets threadbare and filthy - the foreigners have new carpets. The UK people have foul food the foreigners get very good food.

This is all wrong - this is why many of us are not happy to see any more foreigners coming into the UK and settling here.
It's people like you that are the drain on society as regular users of the NHS and I suspect additionally of the benefit system.

Rather than complaining, why don't you take yourself off and move to live in another country?
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: The reason so many people are unhappy with so many foreign people coming to the UK to settle is because they get benefits like child benefit, tax credits, etc - many of these benefits are sent abroad - not even spent in this country often because the wife and children are still abroad, that is wrong IMO. There's also the problem of our NHS being stretched to it's limits. This evening I took my son to our GP surgery in Eastbourne for an emergency appointment - normally we're seen fairly quickly. Tonight we had to wait 40 minutes for 4 lots of people going in before us - 3 of them were from abroad. It is annoying - the situation is getting worse, especially now we've got a government in power that are trying to sell off our NHS to their "friends" and themselves who have their hands in the sticky pot of private health care companies. If you go into any A&E it has so many foreign people waiting to be seen, many can hardly speak any English - so the NHS staff are spending longer trying to sort that problem out and diagnose what's wrong with them. I used to welcome people to the UK from abroad but now I don't - because of seeing that it having a detrimental effect on the UK. Schools are having enormous problems with children who cannot speak English - this slows everything down. The homeless from the UK, in Eastbourne are being treated abysmally in comparison to foreigners. They have accommodation that is disgusting, carpets threadbare and filthy - the foreigners have new carpets. The UK people have foul food the foreigners get very good food. This is all wrong - this is why many of us are not happy to see any more foreigners coming into the UK and settling here.[/p][/quote]It's people like you that are the drain on society as regular users of the NHS and I suspect additionally of the benefit system. Rather than complaining, why don't you take yourself off and move to live in another country? Somethingsarejustwrong
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