Plans for controversial wind farm withdrawn (From The Argus)
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Plans for controversial wind farm withdrawn
8:40am Monday 7th January 2013 in News By Peter Truman
An artist's impression of how the Rampion wind farm could look
PLANS for a huge offshore wind farm have been withdrawn over fears surrounding consultations.
E.ON had submitted an application to build the Rampion wind farm eight miles out to sea from Worthing to Newhaven.
The huge project would have seen 185 turbines generating 665 megawatts of power off the Sussex coast.
But a letter sent to the planning inspectorate on January 2 said it wanted to temporarily withdraw the application.
The letter said that following the submission it had emerged that there were “certain omissions in respect of the Section 42 Consultation element of the application”.
Section 42 of the Planning Act 2008 places a duty on the promoter of major infrastructure projects to consult interested parties.
The letter added: “Having reviewed the situation and taken advice on the materiality of these omissions in conjunction with discussions the project team has had with (the Planning Inspectorate), E.ON has fully committed to address these points prior to the secretary of state making his decision on whether to accept the application for examination”.
'Committed to project'
A spokeswoman for E.ON said: “We want the application to be complete before the Planning Inspectorate decides whether to accept it and the only way to do this is to withdraw it and resubmit again as soon as we are ready.
“We remain completely committed to the project, but wish to take extra time now to maintain our comprehensive approach to consultation.”
In December, E.ON announced it was reducing the number of turbines at the site after concerns raised by the public consultation.
This included a change to the project’s layout following talks with surfing group Surfers against Sewage.
The proposal has received mixed views on the coast.
It is due to create up to 85 jobs after Newhaven Port won the contract to become the operations and maintenance base.
The energy firm said the move could create full-time permanent jobs with the majority of workers being recruited locally.
But there are fears the wind farm would have an adverse affect on nature, as a draft environmental report in July suggested marine mammals, fish and other large marine organisms could be affected during the construction.
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Comments(17)
Mayan Turkey
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9:12am Mon 7 Jan 13
Wind farms at sea are an embarrassing step in a journey towards more environmentally responsible energy solutions. They don't appear to have any sensible place in future sea installations.
The UK coastline should not be a dumping-ground for redundant technology.
Morpheus
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9:29am Mon 7 Jan 13
Mayan Turkey wrote:What proven tidal energy system?
This outdated and inefficient technology being used at sea seems crazy. The UK can lead the way with cutting-edge tidal energy systems - not this outdated, hard to maintain, junk.
Wind farms at sea are an embarrassing step in a journey towards more environmentally responsible energy solutions. They don't appear to have any sensible place in future sea installations.
The UK coastline should not be a dumping-ground for redundant technology.
Joshiman
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9:56am Mon 7 Jan 13
Tailgaters Anonymous
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11:25am Mon 7 Jan 13
MuammarQaddafi
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1:12pm Mon 7 Jan 13
Morpheus wrote:La Rance in Brittany, just across the Channel, going since 1966; Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia, Canada, going since 1984; Jingxia, China, since 1985; Sihwa Lake, South Koria, opened in 2011; and a SeaGen system at Strangford Lough since 2008. You don't hear much about them because they just work.
Mayan Turkey wrote:What proven tidal energy system?
This outdated and inefficient technology being used at sea seems crazy. The UK can lead the way with cutting-edge tidal energy systems - not this outdated, hard to maintain, junk.
Wind farms at sea are an embarrassing step in a journey towards more environmentally responsible energy solutions. They don't appear to have any sensible place in future sea installations.
The UK coastline should not be a dumping-ground for redundant technology.
MuammarQaddafi
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1:12pm Mon 7 Jan 13
Morpheus wrote:La Rance in Brittany, just across the Channel, going since 1966; Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia, Canada, going since 1984; Jingxia, China, since 1985; Sihwa Lake, South Korea, opened in 2011; and a SeaGen system operating at Strangford Lough since 2008. You don't hear much about them because they just work.
Mayan Turkey wrote:What proven tidal energy system?
This outdated and inefficient technology being used at sea seems crazy. The UK can lead the way with cutting-edge tidal energy systems - not this outdated, hard to maintain, junk.
Wind farms at sea are an embarrassing step in a journey towards more environmentally responsible energy solutions. They don't appear to have any sensible place in future sea installations.
The UK coastline should not be a dumping-ground for redundant technology.
Hovite
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1:38pm Mon 7 Jan 13
The marina is the most obvious place to start a research on sustainable energy in the city and it would just be an unseen add-on rather than a standalone project.
Morpheus
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2:09pm Mon 7 Jan 13
MuammarQaddafi wrote:They just work at sites that have a high tidal range and these are limited. We have not seen more because they are expensive and also have environmental implications, the Severn Barrage being a typical example. The latest thinking on tidal energy is for using devices at sea that generate energy from the tidal range. None are proven.
Morpheus wrote:La Rance in Brittany, just across the Channel, going since 1966; Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia, Canada, going since 1984; Jingxia, China, since 1985; Sihwa Lake, South Korea, opened in 2011; and a SeaGen system operating at Strangford Lough since 2008. You don't hear much about them because they just work.
Mayan Turkey wrote:What proven tidal energy system?
This outdated and inefficient technology being used at sea seems crazy. The UK can lead the way with cutting-edge tidal energy systems - not this outdated, hard to maintain, junk.
Wind farms at sea are an embarrassing step in a journey towards more environmentally responsible energy solutions. They don't appear to have any sensible place in future sea installations.
The UK coastline should not be a dumping-ground for redundant technology.
Tis I
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2:11pm Mon 7 Jan 13
Hovite wrote:Lol
You would have thought the amount of energy bashed against the marina arms would provide something if channeled correctly using turbines and tidal technology along them.
The marina is the most obvious place to start a research on sustainable energy in the city and it would just be an unseen add-on rather than a standalone project.
martyt
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6:23pm Mon 7 Jan 13
Morpheus wrote:NONE ARE PROVEN ???? SO WHAT ARE YOU JOGGING ON ABOUT CUTTING EDGE TIDAL ENERGY SYSTEMS ,OR DO YOU OWN SHARES IN SOME HAIR BRAIN SCHEME ,YOUR NOT TELLING US ABOUT
MuammarQaddafi wrote:They just work at sites that have a high tidal range and these are limited. We have not seen more because they are expensive and also have environmental implications, the Severn Barrage being a typical example. The latest thinking on tidal energy is for using devices at sea that generate energy from the tidal range. None are proven.
Morpheus wrote:La Rance in Brittany, just across the Channel, going since 1966; Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia, Canada, going since 1984; Jingxia, China, since 1985; Sihwa Lake, South Korea, opened in 2011; and a SeaGen system operating at Strangford Lough since 2008. You don't hear much about them because they just work.
Mayan Turkey wrote:What proven tidal energy system?
This outdated and inefficient technology being used at sea seems crazy. The UK can lead the way with cutting-edge tidal energy systems - not this outdated, hard to maintain, junk.
Wind farms at sea are an embarrassing step in a journey towards more environmentally responsible energy solutions. They don't appear to have any sensible place in future sea installations.
The UK coastline should not be a dumping-ground for redundant technology.
Idontbelieveit1948
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7:28pm Mon 7 Jan 13
Morpheus wrote:I suppose bl**dy great windmills that rarely turn are proven in your mind are they ?
MuammarQaddafi wrote:They just work at sites that have a high tidal range and these are limited. We have not seen more because they are expensive and also have environmental implications, the Severn Barrage being a typical example. The latest thinking on tidal energy is for using devices at sea that generate energy from the tidal range. None are proven.
Morpheus wrote:La Rance in Brittany, just across the Channel, going since 1966; Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia, Canada, going since 1984; Jingxia, China, since 1985; Sihwa Lake, South Korea, opened in 2011; and a SeaGen system operating at Strangford Lough since 2008. You don't hear much about them because they just work.
Mayan Turkey wrote:What proven tidal energy system?
This outdated and inefficient technology being used at sea seems crazy. The UK can lead the way with cutting-edge tidal energy systems - not this outdated, hard to maintain, junk.
Wind farms at sea are an embarrassing step in a journey towards more environmentally responsible energy solutions. They don't appear to have any sensible place in future sea installations.
The UK coastline should not be a dumping-ground for redundant technology.
MuammarQaddafi
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10:16pm Mon 7 Jan 13
Morpheus wrote:So, technology which has been producing power since the 1960s is "not proven," while 'the latest thinking' for seaborne devices meets with your approbation. You wouldn't happen to be a mate of Al Gore, would you?
MuammarQaddafi wrote:They just work at sites that have a high tidal range and these are limited. We have not seen more because they are expensive and also have environmental implications, the Severn Barrage being a typical example. The latest thinking on tidal energy is for using devices at sea that generate energy from the tidal range. None are proven.
Morpheus wrote:La Rance in Brittany, just across the Channel, going since 1966; Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia, Canada, going since 1984; Jingxia, China, since 1985; Sihwa Lake, South Korea, opened in 2011; and a SeaGen system operating at Strangford Lough since 2008. You don't hear much about them because they just work.
Mayan Turkey wrote:What proven tidal energy system?
This outdated and inefficient technology being used at sea seems crazy. The UK can lead the way with cutting-edge tidal energy systems - not this outdated, hard to maintain, junk.
Wind farms at sea are an embarrassing step in a journey towards more environmentally responsible energy solutions. They don't appear to have any sensible place in future sea installations.
The UK coastline should not be a dumping-ground for redundant technology.
emordnilap
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9:34am Tue 8 Jan 13
MuammarQaddafi wrote:I don't think wind turbines have a places in energy supply either but tidal systems are not the answer either. If you look at the ones mentioned they only supply a tiny fraction of the nation's energy demands. To supply a meaningful amount would take vast constructions around the coast of areas with large tidal ranges. The damage to the environment would be to high a price to pay- imho!
Morpheus wrote:So, technology which has been producing power since the 1960s is "not proven," while 'the latest thinking' for seaborne devices meets with your approbation. You wouldn't happen to be a mate of Al Gore, would you?
MuammarQaddafi wrote:They just work at sites that have a high tidal range and these are limited. We have not seen more because they are expensive and also have environmental implications, the Severn Barrage being a typical example. The latest thinking on tidal energy is for using devices at sea that generate energy from the tidal range. None are proven.
Morpheus wrote:La Rance in Brittany, just across the Channel, going since 1966; Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia, Canada, going since 1984; Jingxia, China, since 1985; Sihwa Lake, South Korea, opened in 2011; and a SeaGen system operating at Strangford Lough since 2008. You don't hear much about them because they just work.
Mayan Turkey wrote:What proven tidal energy system?
This outdated and inefficient technology being used at sea seems crazy. The UK can lead the way with cutting-edge tidal energy systems - not this outdated, hard to maintain, junk.
Wind farms at sea are an embarrassing step in a journey towards more environmentally responsible energy solutions. They don't appear to have any sensible place in future sea installations.
The UK coastline should not be a dumping-ground for redundant technology.
One of the things I never see mentioned in these offshore wind farms is the loss of energy due to the transmission back to land-let alone the whole life environmental costs of building/maintenance
.
If renewables are to feature then we should be have solar collectors- photovoltaics and heat collectors incorporated in all new housing. Adding a couple of thousand pounds to the price of each new house maybe but more than likely saving more than the cost over time. Also the more of these systems produced the more investment into development, and cheaper they would become. They would also produce the power where it would be used.
What is really needed of course is a proper look at the whole area of power supply, storage and usage.
Eg as internet usage increases around the world data storage centers are being built where the biggest problem is getting rid of the heat, all so a lot of pointless data can be stored.... mmmm seems I'm part of that problem!
May be putting the cat amongst the pigeons but for me nuclear is the only answer and the sooner we realise that the better- yes even with Chernobyl and the rest.
Kiddon72
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12:25pm Tue 8 Jan 13
Thumper Hove
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2:46pm Tue 8 Jan 13
martyt wrote:No need for anyone to 'shout' to other posters simply because they have a different viewpoint to you.
Morpheus wrote:NONE ARE PROVEN ???? SO WHAT ARE YOU JOGGING ON ABOUT CUTTING EDGE TIDAL ENERGY SYSTEMS ,OR DO YOU OWN SHARES IN SOME HAIR BRAIN SCHEME ,YOUR NOT TELLING US ABOUT
MuammarQaddafi wrote:They just work at sites that have a high tidal range and these are limited. We have not seen more because they are expensive and also have environmental implications, the Severn Barrage being a typical example. The latest thinking on tidal energy is for using devices at sea that generate energy from the tidal range. None are proven.
Morpheus wrote:La Rance in Brittany, just across the Channel, going since 1966; Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia, Canada, going since 1984; Jingxia, China, since 1985; Sihwa Lake, South Korea, opened in 2011; and a SeaGen system operating at Strangford Lough since 2008. You don't hear much about them because they just work.
Mayan Turkey wrote:What proven tidal energy system?
This outdated and inefficient technology being used at sea seems crazy. The UK can lead the way with cutting-edge tidal energy systems - not this outdated, hard to maintain, junk.
Wind farms at sea are an embarrassing step in a journey towards more environmentally responsible energy solutions. They don't appear to have any sensible place in future sea installations.
The UK coastline should not be a dumping-ground for redundant technology.
Additionally, you might want to learn how to punctuate and learn the difference between "your" & "you're".
Kiddon72
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3:11pm Tue 8 Jan 13
martyt wrote:Ah. The good old eco arguement.
Morpheus wrote:NONE ARE PROVEN ???? SO WHAT ARE YOU JOGGING ON ABOUT CUTTING EDGE TIDAL ENERGY SYSTEMS ,OR DO YOU OWN SHARES IN SOME HAIR BRAIN SCHEME ,YOUR NOT TELLING US ABOUTMuammarQaddafi wrote:They just work at sites that have a high tidal range and these are limited. We have not seen more because they are expensive and also have environmental implications, the Severn Barrage being a typical example. The latest thinking on tidal energy is for using devices at sea that generate energy from the tidal range. None are proven.Morpheus wrote:La Rance in Brittany, just across the Channel, going since 1966; Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia, Canada, going since 1984; Jingxia, China, since 1985; Sihwa Lake, South Korea, opened in 2011; and a SeaGen system operating at Strangford Lough since 2008. You don't hear much about them because they just work.Mayan Turkey wrote: This outdated and inefficient technology being used at sea seems crazy. The UK can lead the way with cutting-edge tidal energy systems - not this outdated, hard to maintain, junk. Wind farms at sea are an embarrassing step in a journey towards more environmentally responsible energy solutions. They don't appear to have any sensible place in future sea installations. The UK coastline should not be a dumping-ground for redundant technology.What proven tidal energy system?
If you don't agree with my green point of view I will not listen to you and shout you down.
john5001 says...
8:47am Mon 7 Jan 13