Tourism tax ‘a mistake’ Brighton and Hove councillor admits

A councillor has admitted that an online survey to gather views on council finances mistakenly included a proposal to impose a tourism tax.

The online survey from Brighton and Hove City Council asks residents to give their priorities for how the local authority should fund services.

It says the views will be taken into account when councillors are making decisions about the budget.

But councillor Geoffrey Bowden said the inclusion of an option to vote for a tourism tax was a mistake.

Pressed by The Argus to explain the reason for the proposal he replied via Twitter: “I didn't see it and have no idea how it crept in under the radar. Mea culpa for not spotting it and killing it at birth.”

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10:28am Wed 9 Jan 13

Martha Gunn says...

For something that was supposed to be killed at birth this proposal seems to be enjoying a remarkable and continued logevity on the Council website.

But I suppose that is what you get from this bunch of Green Party bungling clowns who regard running the Council as a bit of a lark.
For something that was supposed to be killed at birth this proposal seems to be enjoying a remarkable and continued logevity on the Council website. But I suppose that is what you get from this bunch of Green Party bungling clowns who regard running the Council as a bit of a lark. Martha Gunn

10:46am Wed 9 Jan 13

Phani Tikkala says...

Well as my first comment was deleted I'll say it again...

Time for the opposition to grow some cojones
Well as my first comment was deleted I'll say it again... Time for the opposition to grow some cojones Phani Tikkala

10:47am Wed 9 Jan 13

GIVE UP says...

We've already got tourism tax, it's collected by parking fees
We've already got tourism tax, it's collected by parking fees GIVE UP

10:52am Wed 9 Jan 13

Mylex58 says...

It's somewhat misleading for Cllr Bowden to claim the tourism tax is a mistake and to act as if this is the first he's heard about it. This story was covered by the Argus in June 2011 - when it quoted a man called Roger Rolfe, an advisor to Brighton & Hove City Council. Mr Rolfe claimed: "A tourist tax could do an enormous amount of good and really wouldn't be a problem to implement."
He added: "As long as it's is less than the price of a pint."
When asked to comment on the proposal, Cllr Bowden's response was somewhat ambivalent. "The impact of tourists is a fine balance," he is quoted as saying. But interestingly, he didn't rule out imposing a tourist tax.
It's somewhat misleading for Cllr Bowden to claim the tourism tax is a mistake and to act as if this is the first he's heard about it. This story was covered by the Argus in June 2011 - when it quoted a man called Roger Rolfe, an advisor to Brighton & Hove City Council. Mr Rolfe claimed: "A tourist tax could do an enormous amount of good and really wouldn't be a problem to implement." He added: "As long as it's [the tax] is less than the price of a pint." When asked to comment on the proposal, Cllr Bowden's response was somewhat ambivalent. "The impact of tourists is a fine balance," he is quoted as saying. But interestingly, he didn't rule out imposing a tourist tax. Mylex58

10:56am Wed 9 Jan 13

NickBrt says...

greens will never sanction tourism tax, think how much travellers would be liable for! Heaps!
greens will never sanction tourism tax, think how much travellers would be liable for! Heaps! NickBrt

11:03am Wed 9 Jan 13

Sarah Booker Lewis says...

Phani Tikkala wrote:
Well as my first comment was deleted I'll say it again...

Time for the opposition to grow some cojones
No comments were deleted from this story. Your other comment appears on an article highlighting the issue.
[quote][p][bold]Phani Tikkala[/bold] wrote: Well as my first comment was deleted I'll say it again... Time for the opposition to grow some cojones[/p][/quote]No comments were deleted from this story. Your other comment appears on an article highlighting the issue. Sarah Booker Lewis

11:29am Wed 9 Jan 13

minnie&teddy says...

well we british have to pay tourism tax when we go abroad its often added in the package so its not seen, also we have to pay toll money on foriegn roads too but visitors don't pay on our roads!!
well we british have to pay tourism tax when we go abroad its often added in the package so its not seen, also we have to pay toll money on foriegn roads too but visitors don't pay on our roads!! minnie&teddy

11:29am Wed 9 Jan 13

minnie&teddy says...

well we british have to pay tourism tax when we go abroad its often added in the package so its not seen, also we have to pay toll money on foriegn roads too but visitors don't pay on our roads!!
well we british have to pay tourism tax when we go abroad its often added in the package so its not seen, also we have to pay toll money on foriegn roads too but visitors don't pay on our roads!! minnie&teddy

1:36pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Thumper Hove says...

The only 'mistake' is that it was published.

It is obviously being discussed & considered - how else could such a question be added to a survey unless the greenies were thinking about it??
The only 'mistake' is that it was published. It is obviously being discussed & considered - how else could such a question be added to a survey unless the greenies were thinking about it?? Thumper Hove

2:07pm Wed 9 Jan 13

BornInBrighton1968 says...

Mistake my ar*e; I'd wager that the Greens would love to impose this tax. The only 'mistake' is that they have now made the public aware of this.

Now is the time for all Briton men and women of good charachter to work towards kicking-out the incompetent Green's from office
Mistake my ar*e; I'd wager that the Greens would love to impose this tax. The only 'mistake' is that they have now made the public aware of this. Now is the time for all Briton men and women of good charachter to work towards kicking-out the incompetent Green's from office BornInBrighton1968

3:48pm Wed 9 Jan 13

BornInBrighton1968 says...

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
Mistake my ar*e; I'd wager that the Greens would love to impose this tax. The only 'mistake' is that they have now made the public aware of this.

Now is the time for all Briton men and women of good charachter to work towards kicking-out the incompetent Green's from office
Sorry, that should have been 'Brighton men and women, not 'Briton'...
[quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: Mistake my ar*e; I'd wager that the Greens would love to impose this tax. The only 'mistake' is that they have now made the public aware of this. Now is the time for all Briton men and women of good charachter to work towards kicking-out the incompetent Green's from office[/p][/quote]Sorry, that should have been 'Brighton men and women, not 'Briton'... BornInBrighton1968

7:56pm Wed 9 Jan 13

AngelicDevil says...

minnie&teddy wrote:
well we british have to pay tourism tax when we go abroad its often added in the package so its not seen, also we have to pay toll money on foriegn roads too but visitors don't pay on our roads!!
Precisely!

In Canada you get hit with tourism taxes and local taxes and room taxes and and and the list goes on!

I think it would be a good thing for the UK to bring in. We shouldn't be shying away from discussing such policies.
[quote][p][bold]minnie&teddy[/bold] wrote: well we british have to pay tourism tax when we go abroad its often added in the package so its not seen, also we have to pay toll money on foriegn roads too but visitors don't pay on our roads!![/p][/quote]Precisely! In Canada you get hit with tourism taxes and local taxes and room taxes and and and the list goes on! I think it would be a good thing for the UK to bring in. We shouldn't be shying away from discussing such policies. AngelicDevil

3:09pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Mylex58 says...

AngelicDevil wrote:
minnie&teddy wrote:
well we british have to pay tourism tax when we go abroad its often added in the package so its not seen, also we have to pay toll money on foriegn roads too but visitors don't pay on our roads!!
Precisely!

In Canada you get hit with tourism taxes and local taxes and room taxes and and and the list goes on!

I think it would be a good thing for the UK to bring in. We shouldn't be shying away from discussing such policies.
Angelic Devil is making a broader point about national taxes on tourists and we already have that to a large extent with our Air Passenger Duty which is now extortionate for flights to the Far East & Australia (and this affects inbound tourists as well as UK holidaymakers.) As far as Brighton is concerned, I don't see any harm in having a proper discussion about imposing a tourist tax. My view though is that it would be a crazy decision for a city whose economy revolves so much around tourism. It's never a good idea to bite the hand that feeds you.
[quote][p][bold]AngelicDevil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]minnie&teddy[/bold] wrote: well we british have to pay tourism tax when we go abroad its often added in the package so its not seen, also we have to pay toll money on foriegn roads too but visitors don't pay on our roads!![/p][/quote]Precisely! In Canada you get hit with tourism taxes and local taxes and room taxes and and and the list goes on! I think it would be a good thing for the UK to bring in. We shouldn't be shying away from discussing such policies.[/p][/quote]Angelic Devil is making a broader point about national taxes on tourists and we already have that to a large extent with our Air Passenger Duty which is now extortionate for flights to the Far East & Australia (and this affects inbound tourists as well as UK holidaymakers.) As far as Brighton is concerned, I don't see any harm in having a proper discussion about imposing a tourist tax. My view though is that it would be a crazy decision for a city whose economy revolves so much around tourism. It's never a good idea to bite the hand that feeds you. Mylex58

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