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Drivers could use mobiles to pay for their parking in Brighton and Hove

The Argus: Brighton and Hove City Council is considering introducing mobile phone parking payment Brighton and Hove City Council is considering introducing mobile phone parking payment

Motorists could soon pay for parking by mobile phone as part of radical plans.

Brighton and Hove City Council believe the move, which could see people pay by making a call, sending a text or using an app, would make it quicker for motorists when leaving their vehicles in its 25,000 spaces.

However it would see drivers paying up to an extra 20p a time to cover the cost of providing the service.

Ian Davey, the chairman of the council’s transport committee, said: “Paying by phone can be simple and quick and the system is already established in many parts of the country.

“Following requests from residents, visitors and local traders we hope to be able to roll this out in the city by early summer.”

Similar schemes already operate in areas of London, Manchester and Birmingham, as well as Brighton Station.

Drivers have to register their vehicle and card payment details with the service provider.

When parking, the driver sends the location code displayed on a sign and the length of time they wish to stay.

Extend time

This information is logged on the system and checked remotely by civil enforcement officers on patrol.

Drivers using the scheme can also extend their parking time remotely without having to return to their car.

Other services such as reminder texts sent ten minutes before their ticket expires will also be available for a small fee.

Currently, only 61 of the council’s 1,119 Pay and Display machines can accept both card payments and cash.

Councillors will agree next week if they want to join the four year scheme being set up by the London Borough of Lambeth and also including the City of Westminster, Transport for London and the City of London Corporation.

'Convienent'

It comes after 45 per cent of motorists canvassed in the local authority’s parking review said they would probably pay by phone.

Conservative councillor Graham Cox said he fully supported the plan, adding: “It will make parking much more convenient for residents and visitors and should also reduce operational costs.

“I hope that some of these cost savings will be used to reduce parking charges rather than going straight into the council’s coffers.

“I’m also glad to see that the administration is embracing Eric Pickles’ vision of working with other councils to reduce overheads and back office costs.

“I would like to see this happen much more regularly on a whole range of other services in the future.”

Talking point: How likely are you to pay for parking using a mobile phone? Would you rather pay cash?

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2:08pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Bubs says...

Wonderful, and an extra 20per transaction?
How is it possible that the cost will be higher to collect the parking fee by text or app when you take into account not having to supply or maintain any parking meters, nobody needs to collect or bank the cash from meters any more and the money goes straight to the council immediately? There may well be a fee for using a text, but surely the saving will be significant.
Wonderful, and an extra 20per transaction? How is it possible that the cost will be higher to collect the parking fee by text or app when you take into account not having to supply or maintain any parking meters, nobody needs to collect or bank the cash from meters any more and the money goes straight to the council immediately? There may well be a fee for using a text, but surely the saving will be significant. Bubs
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2:16pm Wed 9 Jan 13

BagelCat says...

Bubs wrote:
Wonderful, and an extra 20per transaction?
How is it possible that the cost will be higher to collect the parking fee by text or app when you take into account not having to supply or maintain any parking meters, nobody needs to collect or bank the cash from meters any more and the money goes straight to the council immediately? There may well be a fee for using a text, but surely the saving will be significant.
The cost of having the system operating. The cost of developing the software. The cost of the card transaction (they aren't free).

It even costs money having the app approved on the apple store. Not 100% sure for the Android version.
[quote][p][bold]Bubs[/bold] wrote: Wonderful, and an extra 20per transaction? How is it possible that the cost will be higher to collect the parking fee by text or app when you take into account not having to supply or maintain any parking meters, nobody needs to collect or bank the cash from meters any more and the money goes straight to the council immediately? There may well be a fee for using a text, but surely the saving will be significant.[/p][/quote]The cost of having the system operating. The cost of developing the software. The cost of the card transaction (they aren't free). It even costs money having the app approved on the apple store. Not 100% sure for the Android version. BagelCat
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2:20pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Surely not! says...

I recently parked in Oxford city centre. It cost me £16.90 plus 20p charge for using my phone to pay for 4-6 hours.
I recently parked in Oxford city centre. It cost me £16.90 plus 20p charge for using my phone to pay for 4-6 hours. Surely not!
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2:21pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Fight_Back says...

Wow - B&H council catching up with technology that has been around for YEARS !!!!! Now that's a novelty !
Wow - B&H council catching up with technology that has been around for YEARS !!!!! Now that's a novelty ! Fight_Back
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2:45pm Wed 9 Jan 13

bug eye says...

Brighton and Hove was recorded as collecting the most revenue from parking outside of London last year it was announced today, yet our road surfaces and pavements are shocking. Both councillor Cox and MP Eric Pickles says it should reduce costs, yet this council is already increasing the parking charge by 20p to cover costs. That does not make sense, will it be cheaper or not. If the extra costs are for installation of the system then it is not worth it. Also only 45% said it was a good idea, so 65% said it was not. What happens to people that do not have a mobile phone such as the elderly or poor, or those who just choose not to have one or want a phone free day. It is only a good idea if the parking meter offers cash card and phone payments otherwise no thanks big brother.
Brighton and Hove was recorded as collecting the most revenue from parking outside of London last year it was announced today, yet our road surfaces and pavements are shocking. Both councillor Cox and MP Eric Pickles says it should reduce costs, yet this council is already increasing the parking charge by 20p to cover costs. That does not make sense, will it be cheaper or not. If the extra costs are for installation of the system then it is not worth it. Also only 45% said it was a good idea, so 65% said it was not. What happens to people that do not have a mobile phone such as the elderly or poor, or those who just choose not to have one or want a phone free day. It is only a good idea if the parking meter offers cash card and phone payments otherwise no thanks big brother. bug eye
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3:44pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Frank28 says...

Paying for parking in this way has been successful in other parts of the country. Also, it means that there is less cash in the ticket machine for the criminal gangs who like to steal from them.
Paying for parking in this way has been successful in other parts of the country. Also, it means that there is less cash in the ticket machine for the criminal gangs who like to steal from them. Frank28
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4:24pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Mark63 says...

Ah look, more council money grabbing from motorists... the downright criminal cheek! I saw the TV show last night about parking revenue raising by councils - including our own - disgusting. I'm sure the council will splash out on the latest technology just to raise more ill-gotten gains into their coffers... Shameful, sickening and very disappointing....
Ah look, more council money grabbing from motorists... the downright criminal cheek! I saw the TV show last night about parking revenue raising by councils - including our own - disgusting. I'm sure the council will splash out on the latest technology just to raise more ill-gotten gains into their coffers... Shameful, sickening and very disappointing.... Mark63
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4:26pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Mark63 says...

I recently parked free in Chichester, for £2 in Eastbourne and just £1.50 an hour in Cardiff - and every one of those towns/ cities was more welcoming than the one I live in....
I recently parked free in Chichester, for £2 in Eastbourne and just £1.50 an hour in Cardiff - and every one of those towns/ cities was more welcoming than the one I live in.... Mark63
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4:57pm Wed 9 Jan 13

menowhere says...

this has been rolled out for motorbikes in westminster. doesnt go down well with people there so dont see why it would be so popular here
this has been rolled out for motorbikes in westminster. doesnt go down well with people there so dont see why it would be so popular here menowhere
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10:49pm Wed 9 Jan 13

upsidedowntuctuc says...

Cash Cow full stop!
If it didn't pay more they would not be thinking of introducing it.
How about charging for bicycles?
Cash Cow full stop! If it didn't pay more they would not be thinking of introducing it. How about charging for bicycles? upsidedowntuctuc
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7:40am Thu 10 Jan 13

StyleCop says...

upsidedowntuctuc wrote:
Cash Cow full stop! If it didn't pay more they would not be thinking of introducing it. How about charging for bicycles?
Yeah, adding an extra way to pay for parking in case you haven't got change... sounds like a stupid idea...

And as for bikes... yeah... let's charge them, and all the pedestrians... they just clog up everything - have you tried walking down western road on a Saturday? It's full of them, like they've got nothing better to do than get in my way.
[quote][p][bold]upsidedowntuctuc[/bold] wrote: Cash Cow full stop! If it didn't pay more they would not be thinking of introducing it. How about charging for bicycles?[/p][/quote]Yeah, adding an extra way to pay for parking in case you haven't got change... sounds like a stupid idea... And as for bikes... yeah... let's charge them, and all the pedestrians... they just clog up everything - have you tried walking down western road on a Saturday? It's full of them, like they've got nothing better to do than get in my way. StyleCop
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7:59am Thu 10 Jan 13

StyleCop says...

I was one of the 45%.

It's crazy to think that in the 21st century I can't use a bank card or cellphone to pay for parking in a supposed 'digital' city.

As for the amount that's charged, is there not an element of basic rules of economics? I parked in my parents village in a municipal carpark for 30p (for the day) recently - granted it was the middle of nowhere and empty... and a Sunday.

But transpose that to a Brighton street, where we find ourselves victims of our own attraction - therefore more cars (consumers) looking for limited spaces (product) - supply, demand.

Simple, economics.

Add into that a Green led agenda and voila... one heady mix of controversy.

It's a no brainer the costs will be higher than average. Striking the right balance though is the problem and clearly last years charges were a bridge too far.

Providing options to pay however, for those who are willing and not deterred by the fees, is, on the whole, a good thing.

I just wish they'd take steps to provide the flexibility so that each denomination of coin, added time to the clock relevant to its value. Rather than have this inflexible £3 1hr - £6 2hrs etc... what if I could put in 50p and get 1/2hr? Or £1.05p and get 1hr 3mins... or something like that... I've often found myself 10p shy of the amount required for 2hrs and then.forced to just take 1hr - which is a ball-ache.
I was one of the 45%. It's crazy to think that in the 21st century I can't use a bank card or cellphone to pay for parking in a supposed 'digital' city. As for the amount that's charged, is there not an element of basic rules of economics? I parked in my parents village in a municipal carpark for 30p (for the day) recently - granted it was the middle of nowhere and empty... and a Sunday. But transpose that to a Brighton street, where we find ourselves victims of our own attraction - therefore more cars (consumers) looking for limited spaces (product) - supply, demand. Simple, economics. Add into that a Green led agenda and voila... one heady mix of controversy. It's a no brainer the costs will be higher than average. Striking the right balance though is the problem and clearly last years charges were a bridge too far. Providing options to pay however, for those who are willing and not deterred by the fees, is, on the whole, a good thing. I just wish they'd take steps to provide the flexibility so that each denomination of coin, added time to the clock relevant to its value. Rather than have this inflexible £3 1hr - £6 2hrs etc... what if I could put in 50p and get 1/2hr? Or £1.05p and get 1hr 3mins... or something like that... I've often found myself 10p shy of the amount required for 2hrs and then.forced to just take 1hr - which is a ball-ache. StyleCop
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