25 suspended by new hardline headteacher at Portslade Aldridge Community Academy

The Argus: Portslade Aldridge Community Academy (PACA) where 25 pupils were suspended by the new headteacher Portslade Aldridge Community Academy (PACA) where 25 pupils were suspended by the new headteacher

The new head of a city academy is at the centre of a row after a discipline blitz saw dozens of pupils suspended in less than a week.

The crackdown has seen more than 25 pupils disciplined at Portslade Aldridge Community Academy (PACA) for offences since term began on Monday.

The Argus understands scores more pupils have been sent home to smarten up.

The move coincides with the appointment of controversial interim principal James Fox, who replaced Stuart McLaughlin.

It came as the academy’s first Ofsted report, released this week, highlighted some staff struggled to deal with the “most challenging” PACA students.

Mr Fox’s disciplinarian approach has led to several parents and teachers contacting The Argus with concerns over the tough measures.

One man who said he was a teacher at the academy stated: “The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick.

“We are not happy about it. He’s an ex-military man so he thinks he can run the school like the army.”

Parents' anger

One parent said: “He has gone over the top.

“We’ve spoken to other parents and they are up in arms over this.

“The students being taken out of their classrooms while the principal deals with them and it is affecting their education.”

The academy’s chairman of governors, Honor Wilson-Fletcher, said the blitz was simply an “emphatic implementation” of the rules.

Uniform policy

She added: “It is not about not wearing the right uniform but for refusing to do anything about it.

“It will settle down now as everyone knows about it.”

A spokesman for PACA added: “The uniform policy is not new in any way, and is the one that has been in force since the academy opened in September 2011.

“Any students who came in on Tuesday not in correct uniform were spoken to by teaching staff and most issues were easily resolved.

“However, six students refused to take action, having been given the chance to, and were subsequently suspended for two days because of that refusal.”

Abusive language

The spokesman confirmed that more than a dozen other pupils had also been suspended since then over their behaviour, including using abusive language towards teachers.

Mrs Wilson-Fletcher said she had received praise from some parents about the appearance of students since the start of term.

She also said the governing body and sponsors had confidence in Mr Fox.

Controversy

The headteacher left his last post in a cloud of controversy after introducing a new uniform and restructuring the senior management team at Abbeyfield School in Wiltshire.

At Abbeyfield he announced a swathe of redundancies but after concerns were raised by the unions, Mr Fox was put on gardening leave while council officials investigated.

He resigned shortly afterwards but a legal agreement means the exact reasons behind his departure remain secret.

The governors at PACA were aware of this but said they were “struck by the quality of Mr Fox’s references and by endorsements from both students and parents at his former schools” when they decided to appoint him.

Ofsted highlights problems with behaviour

The Ofsted report released this week suggested staff were struggling to manage the behaviour of the “most challenging students” at PACA.

Inspectors also said pupils had performed worse than they should have, especially in maths, as a result of the poor standards in the classroom.

The sixth form was criticised for not giving students the best advice about their choice of courses.

But the academy’s rating of “requires improvement” was better than the “inadequate” description handed to the school it replaced, Portslade Community College.

Inspectors praised the governors for identifying strengths and weaknesses and working hard to improve the situation quickly.

They also said teaching in maths had improved significantly and progress in English was highlighted.

Chairman of governors Honor Wilson-Fletcher said: “We are pleased that the report states that the quality of teaching is improving and that it shows the real progress that has been made.

“The report has reinforced the challenges we face in ensuring that we continue to improve faster, but PACA’s staff and governors are determined to do that and to take on board all of the inspectors’ comments.”

Talking point: To what extent should headteachers crackdown on uniform and other rule breaking by pupils? What do you think should be done to improve pupil behaviour?

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12:44pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Indigatio says...

Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.
Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him. Indigatio

12:50pm Fri 11 Jan 13

poppet says...

Before everyone says a bit of discipline is great whats the problem this story had been dampened down, there is no mention of the loads of detentions being given out too.
Ive heard from other parents that 'offences' in the new heads eyes range from being caught wearing a hairband on a wrist, having a bobble on your hairband wearing a coat in school.
Some of the children being punished have NEVER been in any trouble in their school life and have exams this week, its not trouble makers by any means.
And when it comes to enforcing the uniform, well what that means is that any boy who cant do his top button up under his tie is being sent home.
The school does need a shake up but the first step is to sort out the teachers, not bully the kids and rule them with fear!!
Before everyone says a bit of discipline is great whats the problem this story had been dampened down, there is no mention of the loads of detentions being given out too. Ive heard from other parents that 'offences' in the new heads eyes range from being caught wearing a hairband on a wrist, having a bobble on your hairband wearing a coat in school. Some of the children being punished have NEVER been in any trouble in their school life and have exams this week, its not trouble makers by any means. And when it comes to enforcing the uniform, well what that means is that any boy who cant do his top button up under his tie is being sent home. The school does need a shake up but the first step is to sort out the teachers, not bully the kids and rule them with fear!! poppet

12:51pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Cave Johnson says...

Good for him. And to the pupils and parents complaining, aww diddums.

Shame on you Argus for the negative tone in this report.
Good for him. And to the pupils and parents complaining, aww diddums. Shame on you Argus for the negative tone in this report. Cave Johnson

12:57pm Fri 11 Jan 13

fascinator says...

Sounds like the guy is missing his time in the army.

I'm just waiting for the 'bring back the cane' brigade.

Time will tell though - it will be interesting to see if the school can better exam results, or if the headmaster has another term of gardening leave.

Surley Honor W-F is either the chair of guvs or the chairwoman of guvs.
Sounds like the guy is missing his time in the army. I'm just waiting for the 'bring back the cane' brigade. Time will tell though - it will be interesting to see if the school can better exam results, or if the headmaster has another term of gardening leave. Surley Honor W-F is either the chair of guvs or the chairwoman of guvs. fascinator

1:13pm Fri 11 Jan 13

ThinkBrighton says...

To quote the prophet "Rules is Rules"
You go to school to LEARN not to abuse the staff, have a smoke with your mates or get laid.
Conform, Listen, and Learn, it will set you up for the rest of your life.
It would be an interesting point to find out what qualifications the complaining
parents left school with.
To quote the prophet "Rules is Rules" You go to school to LEARN not to abuse the staff, have a smoke with your mates or get laid. Conform, Listen, and Learn, it will set you up for the rest of your life. It would be an interesting point to find out what qualifications the complaining parents left school with. ThinkBrighton

1:18pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Patsyr says...

What is the matter with parents complaining about a new headteacher trying to get some discipline into the school system ?

All concerned should be grateful that the head cares enough to try to inprove the school and maybe help the students realise that throughout life if you want to do well you need to conform. Not a bad lesson to learn so well done Mr Fox, maybe some other shool heads could do more for their pupils.
What is the matter with parents complaining about a new headteacher trying to get some discipline into the school system ? All concerned should be grateful that the head cares enough to try to inprove the school and maybe help the students realise that throughout life if you want to do well you need to conform. Not a bad lesson to learn so well done Mr Fox, maybe some other shool heads could do more for their pupils. Patsyr

1:25pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Fight_Back says...

The thing that worries me is the secrecy of his previous dismissal ! That and the fact that the school is run by an ex-Capita man - slash, burn and make a profit are Capita missions.
The thing that worries me is the secrecy of his previous dismissal ! That and the fact that the school is run by an ex-Capita man - slash, burn and make a profit are Capita missions. Fight_Back

1:27pm Fri 11 Jan 13

BiggerH says...

excellent stuff.
I remember being at school where one's jacket pockets were sewn up by the headmistress if you had your hands in them, and made to wear pink ribbons if your hair was too long.
Made me the man I am today - although I do have a bit of a nervous twitch, can't look at anyone in the eye, and am scared of all women
excellent stuff. I remember being at school where one's jacket pockets were sewn up by the headmistress if you had your hands in them, and made to wear pink ribbons if your hair was too long. Made me the man I am today - although I do have a bit of a nervous twitch, can't look at anyone in the eye, and am scared of all women BiggerH

1:32pm Fri 11 Jan 13

clearlyapenalty says...

Hmmmm, reminds me of the modus operandi of a certain Mr Dennis Mulkerrin at Longhill School, circa 1988
Hmmmm, reminds me of the modus operandi of a certain Mr Dennis Mulkerrin at Longhill School, circa 1988 clearlyapenalty

1:42pm Fri 11 Jan 13

wexler53 says...

Mr Fox’s disciplinarian approach has led to several parents and teachers contacting The Argus with concerns over the tough measures.

One man who said he was a teacher at the academy stated: “The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick.

Here's one teacher who should be dismissed. If you are not happy, there are systems in place for dealing with it, and these don't include running to the local paper.

His team - all staff - should get behind him, be professional and get on with making the school better for everyone.

If staff don't like it, then quit and try to find an easy spot somewhere else.

Children deserve the best education, which deserves good professional staff. Stop moaning and work together to do what you are employed for - teach.
Mr Fox’s disciplinarian approach has led to several parents and teachers contacting The Argus with concerns over the tough measures. One man who said he was a teacher at the academy stated: “The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick. Here's one teacher who should be dismissed. If you are not happy, there are systems in place for dealing with it, and these don't include running to the local paper. His team - all staff - should get behind him, be professional and get on with making the school better for everyone. If staff don't like it, then quit and try to find an easy spot somewhere else. Children deserve the best education, which deserves good professional staff. Stop moaning and work together to do what you are employed for - teach. wexler53

1:42pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Ballroom Blitz says...

We need more heads like him. The article clearly states that all pupils in question were given the option to conform to his standards. Some refused. They are children. They need to learn to do as they are told. He did the right thing.
Who is running the school, after all.
We need more heads like him. The article clearly states that all pupils in question were given the option to conform to his standards. Some refused. They are children. They need to learn to do as they are told. He did the right thing. Who is running the school, after all. Ballroom Blitz

1:43pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

I would advise any parent who is unhappy with their child being suspended from this school should make a written complaint about the head teacher to the chair of governors. .
I would advise any parent who is unhappy with their child being suspended from this school should make a written complaint about the head teacher to the chair of governors. . Mrs Newcastle

1:50pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Fudge001 says...

Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week.

Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view.

These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams!

Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:-
Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!).

There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply.

Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying.

I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.
Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself. Fudge001

1:55pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

I remember Patcham High school having problems a few years ago.I would advise the head teacher to seek some help and support from their head teacher Paula Sargent who seems to use a far more positive approach.
I remember Patcham High school having problems a few years ago.I would advise the head teacher to seek some help and support from their head teacher Paula Sargent who seems to use a far more positive approach. Mrs Newcastle

1:55pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

I remember Patcham High school having problems a few years ago.I would advise the head teacher to seek some help and support from their head teacher Paula Sargent who seems to use a far more positive approach.
I remember Patcham High school having problems a few years ago.I would advise the head teacher to seek some help and support from their head teacher Paula Sargent who seems to use a far more positive approach. Mrs Newcastle

1:55pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

I remember Patcham High school having problems a few years ago.I would advise the head teacher to seek some help and support from their head teacher Paula Sargent who seems to use a far more positive approach.
I remember Patcham High school having problems a few years ago.I would advise the head teacher to seek some help and support from their head teacher Paula Sargent who seems to use a far more positive approach. Mrs Newcastle

2:02pm Fri 11 Jan 13

alice1 says...

well done Mr fox about time too some one has to put their foot down just please don't back down
well done Mr fox about time too some one has to put their foot down just please don't back down alice1

2:04pm Fri 11 Jan 13

getThisCoalitionOut says...

Good for him and how disgraceful of the parents to complain. Time to realise that in the real world you need to obey rules, they are there for a reason. I wish him well.
Good for him and how disgraceful of the parents to complain. Time to realise that in the real world you need to obey rules, they are there for a reason. I wish him well. getThisCoalitionOut

2:16pm Fri 11 Jan 13

darkasnight1 says...

I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr
ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !!
I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !! darkasnight1

2:17pm Fri 11 Jan 13

poppet says...

ThinkBrighton wrote:
To quote the prophet "Rules is Rules"
You go to school to LEARN not to abuse the staff, have a smoke with your mates or get laid.
Conform, Listen, and Learn, it will set you up for the rest of your life.
It would be an interesting point to find out what qualifications the complaining
parents left school with.
What on earth has the qualifications of the parents go to do with anything. Ridiculous statement!
[quote][p][bold]ThinkBrighton[/bold] wrote: To quote the prophet "Rules is Rules" You go to school to LEARN not to abuse the staff, have a smoke with your mates or get laid. Conform, Listen, and Learn, it will set you up for the rest of your life. It would be an interesting point to find out what qualifications the complaining parents left school with.[/p][/quote]What on earth has the qualifications of the parents go to do with anything. Ridiculous statement! poppet

2:22pm Fri 11 Jan 13

poppet says...

Fudge001 wrote:
Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week.

Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view.

These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams!

Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:-
Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!).

There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply.

Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying.

I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.
Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.
[quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.[/p][/quote]Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever. poppet

2:25pm Fri 11 Jan 13

funkyyoyo says...

well done mr new headteacher, 0% tollerance and if the parents dont like it...TOUGH !! its called school,where you learn manners discipline (an unknown word to some parents) and an education!!!
well done mr new headteacher, 0% tollerance and if the parents dont like it...TOUGH !! its called school,where you learn manners discipline (an unknown word to some parents) and an education!!! funkyyoyo

2:27pm Fri 11 Jan 13

hovian says...

I bet this head will be forced to back down - or quietly be replaced......Bright
on is a place where almost any kind of discipline or enforcement is virtually impossible due to this laid-back, relaxed, cool culture we all live in...
I bet this head will be forced to back down - or quietly be replaced......Bright on is a place where almost any kind of discipline or enforcement is virtually impossible due to this laid-back, relaxed, cool culture we all live in... hovian

2:27pm Fri 11 Jan 13

hovian says...

I bet this head will be forced to back down - or quietly be replaced......Bright
on is a place where almost any kind of discipline or enforcement is virtually impossible due to this laid-back, relaxed, cool culture we all live in...
I bet this head will be forced to back down - or quietly be replaced......Bright on is a place where almost any kind of discipline or enforcement is virtually impossible due to this laid-back, relaxed, cool culture we all live in... hovian

2:27pm Fri 11 Jan 13

JuliaM says...

"The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick.

We are not happy about it."

Well, stop your little darlings leaving the house inappropriately dressed for school then!
"The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick. We are not happy about it." Well, stop your little darlings leaving the house inappropriately dressed for school then! JuliaM

2:27pm Fri 11 Jan 13

poppet says...

Can people please remember before they comment that this is a normal school we are talking about, its not a Young Offenders Institute, but that is how most parents see their children being treated. There are scores of kids that have never been in trouble and are what would be seen as "good kids" not terrified to go into school incase they inadvertently break a newly made up rule and get excluded. The fear really is that bad and its not a way to install confidence into kids and its certainly not a way to gain respect
Can people please remember before they comment that this is a normal school we are talking about, its not a Young Offenders Institute, but that is how most parents see their children being treated. There are scores of kids that have never been in trouble and are what would be seen as "good kids" not terrified to go into school incase they inadvertently break a newly made up rule and get excluded. The fear really is that bad and its not a way to install confidence into kids and its certainly not a way to gain respect poppet

2:29pm Fri 11 Jan 13

JustagirlinHove says...

Discipline is important, but I think being sent home on minor uniform issues is too much.
Children need to have boundaries, but they also need to learn in an environment where they feel safe and comfortable.
I wonder how quickly they will see pupils bunking off because the school has become such a negative environment that they don't want to attend.
I'm all for people being sent home or suspended for disrupting classes, being unnecessarily rude, violent or for bullying, but I think sending people home for wearing nail varnish is ridiculous. When I was at school they would remove it and give us a detention for not complying.
Discipline is important, but I think being sent home on minor uniform issues is too much. Children need to have boundaries, but they also need to learn in an environment where they feel safe and comfortable. I wonder how quickly they will see pupils bunking off because the school has become such a negative environment that they don't want to attend. I'm all for people being sent home or suspended for disrupting classes, being unnecessarily rude, violent or for bullying, but I think sending people home for wearing nail varnish is ridiculous. When I was at school they would remove it and give us a detention for not complying. JustagirlinHove

2:30pm Fri 11 Jan 13

poppet says...

JuliaM wrote:
"The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick.

We are not happy about it."

Well, stop your little darlings leaving the house inappropriately dressed for school then!
This was actually a quote from a teacher not a parent. And barely scratches the surface of whats actually going on.
[quote][p][bold]JuliaM[/bold] wrote: "The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick. We are not happy about it." Well, stop your little darlings leaving the house inappropriately dressed for school then![/p][/quote]This was actually a quote from a teacher not a parent. And barely scratches the surface of whats actually going on. poppet

2:30pm Fri 11 Jan 13

lynettea says...

Good man Mr Fox. Keep up the good work. Parents should be grateful for his clear and firm line on maintaining adherence to the regulations. No misunderstandings, no giving in to pester power and disobedience. No special treatment for some, when others are being co-operative and playing by the rules. Other than gaining knowledge for personal development, one of the main purposes of education is to prepare an individual for paid employment, which leads to a future that is richer in all senses of the word. Education at PACA is free, and students are able to be as greedy as they wish, and grab as much knowledge as possible, for their own benefit when they leave and hopefully become ready to know how to behave in a workplace. Ideally they will be keen to be self-motivated, and understand that there is no anarchy allowed in a place of work if they wish to continue having that much looked forward to, and essential, payment for their work.
Good man Mr Fox. Keep up the good work. Parents should be grateful for his clear and firm line on maintaining adherence to the regulations. No misunderstandings, no giving in to pester power and disobedience. No special treatment for some, when others are being co-operative and playing by the rules. Other than gaining knowledge for personal development, one of the main purposes of education is to prepare an individual for paid employment, which leads to a future that is richer in all senses of the word. Education at PACA is free, and students are able to be as greedy as they wish, and grab as much knowledge as possible, for their own benefit when they leave and hopefully become ready to know how to behave in a workplace. Ideally they will be keen to be self-motivated, and understand that there is no anarchy allowed in a place of work if they wish to continue having that much looked forward to, and essential, payment for their work. lynettea

2:38pm Fri 11 Jan 13

darkasnight1 says...

If the skirts are too short then its the schools fault as we have to buy the uniform from PACA,and just for the record my child leaves the house smart at all times "No flesh on show,No make up,and a very understated hairstyle" she was still stopped on the gate and accused of having false nails."NO" just clean and nicely shaped,and accused of having extreme hair,a eyebrow length straight fringe,Extreme is it ?? Well that must make me a social outcast !!!! This is just a ordinary secondary school and most of the children are being stopped even ones with a hole in their tights or trousers,we cannot afford the school uniform riddiculous prices to replace as often as liked as ALL uniform is bought through PACA...
If the skirts are too short then its the schools fault as we have to buy the uniform from PACA,and just for the record my child leaves the house smart at all times "No flesh on show,No make up,and a very understated hairstyle" she was still stopped on the gate and accused of having false nails."NO" just clean and nicely shaped,and accused of having extreme hair,a eyebrow length straight fringe,Extreme is it ?? Well that must make me a social outcast !!!! This is just a ordinary secondary school and most of the children are being stopped even ones with a hole in their tights or trousers,we cannot afford the school uniform riddiculous prices to replace as often as liked as ALL uniform is bought through PACA... darkasnight1

2:47pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

darkasnight1 wrote:
I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr

ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !!
If you Google Mr Fox , you find quite similar comments about his style on other newspapers web sites from a previous school. Some parents liked his style and some did not. So if you not happy with it then change schools because i don't think this checking at the school gates will change. I think it the ways he thinks will teach your children respect. Personally its not my style, in my view it does not work. Respect has to given both ways!
[quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !![/p][/quote]If you Google Mr Fox , you find quite similar comments about his style on other newspapers web sites from a previous school. Some parents liked his style and some did not. So if you not happy with it then change schools because i don't think this checking at the school gates will change. I think it the ways he thinks will teach your children respect. Personally its not my style, in my view it does not work. Respect has to given both ways! Mrs Newcastle

2:47pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Fudge001 says...

Why does everyone assume that anyone who comments on the heavy handed approach has rude and ill behaved children, this certainly isn't the case. I take my children's education very seriously as do they and we abide by the rules set.

But the teachers at this school should be leading by example, how can you send a pupil to have nail varnish removed by a women who is sporting chipped red nail varnish herself!!

Clearly all of Mr Fox's supporters have no compassion for anyone and think its ok to pick on children who are ill and cannot help the size they are!!

Disgusting.
Why does everyone assume that anyone who comments on the heavy handed approach has rude and ill behaved children, this certainly isn't the case. I take my children's education very seriously as do they and we abide by the rules set. But the teachers at this school should be leading by example, how can you send a pupil to have nail varnish removed by a women who is sporting chipped red nail varnish herself!! Clearly all of Mr Fox's supporters have no compassion for anyone and think its ok to pick on children who are ill and cannot help the size they are!! Disgusting. Fudge001

3:09pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Vigilia says...

One man who said he was a teacher at the academy stated: “The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick.
We are not happy about it. He’s an ex-military man so he thinks he can run the school like the army.”

And in your opinion these things are perfectly acceptable? Perhaps it is you who should be seeking a less demanding career path.
One man who said he was a teacher at the academy stated: “The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick. We are not happy about it. He’s an ex-military man so he thinks he can run the school like the army.” And in your opinion these things are perfectly acceptable? Perhaps it is you who should be seeking a less demanding career path. Vigilia

3:11pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Alan G Skinner says...

This is the way a School should be run, rules, discipline and a quality education. We have all seen standards eroded over the years and children who are all but feral. Good. Perhaps the parents who are complaining, should have a good look at themselves and their children’s infractions, repent and improve.
This is the way a School should be run, rules, discipline and a quality education. We have all seen standards eroded over the years and children who are all but feral. Good. Perhaps the parents who are complaining, should have a good look at themselves and their children’s infractions, repent and improve. Alan G Skinner

3:11pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Nooney says...

Reading these comments the amount of grammatical and spelling errors made by supposedly "educated" people makes me feel physically ill. Don't mind me not being able to take any of your comments seriously until you are able to spell. Go and get yourselves educated before you spew your ridiculous opinions, someone may be more willing to listen to your complaints then.
Reading these comments the amount of grammatical and spelling errors made by supposedly "educated" people makes me feel physically ill. Don't mind me not being able to take any of your comments seriously until you are able to spell. Go and get yourselves [re-]educated before you spew your ridiculous opinions, someone may be more willing to listen to your complaints then. Nooney

3:14pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Mulligan67 says...

How refreshing. More tittle-tattle from The Argus. I am beginning to wonder why I read this odious rag.

Shock horror...'Headteache
r enforces school policies'. Get over it.

What is it with The Argus? Is this even a story? So what?? They are exactly the same with their stories about BACA.
How refreshing. More tittle-tattle from The Argus. I am beginning to wonder why I read this odious rag. Shock horror...'Headteache r enforces school policies'. Get over it. What is it with The Argus? Is this even a story? So what?? They are exactly the same with their stories about BACA. Mulligan67

3:18pm Fri 11 Jan 13

darkasnight1 says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
darkasnight1 wrote:
I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr


ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !!
If you Google Mr Fox , you find quite similar comments about his style on other newspapers web sites from a previous school. Some parents liked his style and some did not. So if you not happy with it then change schools because i don't think this checking at the school gates will change. I think it the ways he thinks will teach your children respect. Personally its not my style, in my view it does not work. Respect has to given both ways!
I agree that some things cannot be changed and i am not suggesting that disciplinary should necesarily be relaxed but its the way this is being done,its infringing on their education,and some children want to learn,my child would be unable to attend another school due to health issues but if this does carry on would have to be home schooled as these situations affect a childs health,I am a responsible mother who has brought up 3 children one at university currently so i have a interest in my childs education i want her to succeed but at the moment is so scared she just wants to leave...
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !![/p][/quote]If you Google Mr Fox , you find quite similar comments about his style on other newspapers web sites from a previous school. Some parents liked his style and some did not. So if you not happy with it then change schools because i don't think this checking at the school gates will change. I think it the ways he thinks will teach your children respect. Personally its not my style, in my view it does not work. Respect has to given both ways![/p][/quote]I agree that some things cannot be changed and i am not suggesting that disciplinary should necesarily be relaxed but its the way this is being done,its infringing on their education,and some children want to learn,my child would be unable to attend another school due to health issues but if this does carry on would have to be home schooled as these situations affect a childs health,I am a responsible mother who has brought up 3 children one at university currently so i have a interest in my childs education i want her to succeed but at the moment is so scared she just wants to leave... darkasnight1

3:19pm Fri 11 Jan 13

graham_Seagull says...

There should be no ambiguity in the rules- no opportunity for the kids to bend the rules, or the parents for that matter.

Kids should be there to learn full stop.

Whining parents should take the opportunity to get behind this head whilst he creates the right environment for respect, then kids learn with min disruption.

If you're a whining parent then ask yourself what is your objective? Have you given your kids too much control?

Well played the head teacher.
There should be no ambiguity in the rules- no opportunity for the kids to bend the rules, or the parents for that matter. Kids should be there to learn full stop. Whining parents should take the opportunity to get behind this head whilst he creates the right environment for respect, then kids learn with min disruption. If you're a whining parent then ask yourself what is your objective? Have you given your kids too much control? Well played the head teacher. graham_Seagull

3:23pm Fri 11 Jan 13

darkasnight1 says...

darkasnight1 wrote:
Mrs Newcastle wrote:
darkasnight1 wrote:
I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr



ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !!
If you Google Mr Fox , you find quite similar comments about his style on other newspapers web sites from a previous school. Some parents liked his style and some did not. So if you not happy with it then change schools because i don't think this checking at the school gates will change. I think it the ways he thinks will teach your children respect. Personally its not my style, in my view it does not work. Respect has to given both ways!
I agree that some things cannot be changed and i am not suggesting that disciplinary should necesarily be relaxed but its the way this is being done,its infringing on their education,and some children want to learn,my child would be unable to attend another school due to health issues but if this does carry on would have to be home schooled as these situations affect a childs health,I am a responsible mother who has brought up 3 children one at university currently so i have a interest in my childs education i want her to succeed but at the moment is so scared she just wants to leave...
*oops that was supposed to say discipline !! Thats what happens when you type while talking on the phone oops.
[quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !![/p][/quote]If you Google Mr Fox , you find quite similar comments about his style on other newspapers web sites from a previous school. Some parents liked his style and some did not. So if you not happy with it then change schools because i don't think this checking at the school gates will change. I think it the ways he thinks will teach your children respect. Personally its not my style, in my view it does not work. Respect has to given both ways![/p][/quote]I agree that some things cannot be changed and i am not suggesting that disciplinary should necesarily be relaxed but its the way this is being done,its infringing on their education,and some children want to learn,my child would be unable to attend another school due to health issues but if this does carry on would have to be home schooled as these situations affect a childs health,I am a responsible mother who has brought up 3 children one at university currently so i have a interest in my childs education i want her to succeed but at the moment is so scared she just wants to leave...[/p][/quote]*oops that was supposed to say discipline !! Thats what happens when you type while talking on the phone oops. darkasnight1

3:29pm Fri 11 Jan 13

brightonmike2011 says...

Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox?

Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.
Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude. brightonmike2011

3:51pm Fri 11 Jan 13

tengri says...

brightonmike2011 wrote:
Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox?

Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.
How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers.

I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous.

Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.
[quote][p][bold]brightonmike2011[/bold] wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.[/p][/quote]How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work. tengri

3:54pm Fri 11 Jan 13

graham_Seagull says...

tengri wrote:
brightonmike2011 wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.
How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.
Parents knew the rules since 2011, so have been ignoring them too and now blame the head for sticking to the rules.

You, the parents, have abdicated responsibility for applying the rules that you knew about, turned a blind eye too.

Now you whinge. Could make it up, incredible side stepping of parental responsibility!!!!
[quote][p][bold]tengri[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonmike2011[/bold] wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.[/p][/quote]How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.[/p][/quote]Parents knew the rules since 2011, so have been ignoring them too and now blame the head for sticking to the rules. You, the parents, have abdicated responsibility for applying the rules that you knew about, turned a blind eye too. Now you whinge. Could make it up, incredible side stepping of parental responsibility!!!! graham_Seagull

3:57pm Fri 11 Jan 13

darkasnight1 says...

poppet wrote:
Fudge001 wrote:
Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week.

Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view.

These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams!

Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:-
Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!).

There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply.

Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying.

I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.
Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.
One of the most sensible comments on here.
A time to comply should of been issued as they were told they were able to do some things by the old principle,then Mr Fox pops along with the new rules these should of been stated Mr M,sent letters out when he relaxed some rules,Mr Fox just charged in like a bull in a china shop,He would maybe of been given more support if parents had been made aware of the school gate inspections in advance and for some of the other issues that have been mentioned.
As parents we are obligated to support our children,especially when some of the issues are so unfair,and with so many complaints their is obviously more to this story than many of the people commenting know.
Wonder if you would be so keen to defend Mr Fox if it was your child who was upset,punish the wrongdoers,by all means but think before you judge every child,all children are not delinquents or liars,some are just trying to get through a day of school with as little grief as possible and dont need to be made late for classes unnecessarily.
[quote][p][bold]poppet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.[/p][/quote]Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.[/p][/quote]One of the most sensible comments on here. A time to comply should of been issued as they were told they were able to do some things by the old principle,then Mr Fox pops along with the new rules these should of been stated Mr M,sent letters out when he relaxed some rules,Mr Fox just charged in like a bull in a china shop,He would maybe of been given more support if parents had been made aware of the school gate inspections in advance and for some of the other issues that have been mentioned. As parents we are obligated to support our children,especially when some of the issues are so unfair,and with so many complaints their is obviously more to this story than many of the people commenting know. Wonder if you would be so keen to defend Mr Fox if it was your child who was upset,punish the wrongdoers,by all means but think before you judge every child,all children are not delinquents or liars,some are just trying to get through a day of school with as little grief as possible and dont need to be made late for classes unnecessarily. darkasnight1

3:57pm Fri 11 Jan 13

graham_Seagull says...

poppet wrote:
Fudge001 wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.
Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.
All guns blazing...you mean applying the existing rules that patents knew about.

Take responsibility!!!!!!
!
[quote][p][bold]poppet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.[/p][/quote]Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.[/p][/quote]All guns blazing...you mean applying the existing rules that patents knew about. Take responsibility!!!!!! ! graham_Seagull

3:59pm Fri 11 Jan 13

graham_Seagull says...

darkasnight1 wrote:
poppet wrote:
Fudge001 wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.
Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.
One of the most sensible comments on here. A time to comply should of been issued as they were told they were able to do some things by the old principle,then Mr Fox pops along with the new rules these should of been stated Mr M,sent letters out when he relaxed some rules,Mr Fox just charged in like a bull in a china shop,He would maybe of been given more support if parents had been made aware of the school gate inspections in advance and for some of the other issues that have been mentioned. As parents we are obligated to support our children,especially when some of the issues are so unfair,and with so many complaints their is obviously more to this story than many of the people commenting know. Wonder if you would be so keen to defend Mr Fox if it was your child who was upset,punish the wrongdoers,by all means but think before you judge every child,all children are not delinquents or liars,some are just trying to get through a day of school with as little grief as possible and dont need to be made late for classes unnecessarily.
Another parent prepared to blame others and not simply get on with applying the rules.

Stop whining and start being a parent!!!
[quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poppet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.[/p][/quote]Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.[/p][/quote]One of the most sensible comments on here. A time to comply should of been issued as they were told they were able to do some things by the old principle,then Mr Fox pops along with the new rules these should of been stated Mr M,sent letters out when he relaxed some rules,Mr Fox just charged in like a bull in a china shop,He would maybe of been given more support if parents had been made aware of the school gate inspections in advance and for some of the other issues that have been mentioned. As parents we are obligated to support our children,especially when some of the issues are so unfair,and with so many complaints their is obviously more to this story than many of the people commenting know. Wonder if you would be so keen to defend Mr Fox if it was your child who was upset,punish the wrongdoers,by all means but think before you judge every child,all children are not delinquents or liars,some are just trying to get through a day of school with as little grief as possible and dont need to be made late for classes unnecessarily.[/p][/quote]Another parent prepared to blame others and not simply get on with applying the rules. Stop whining and start being a parent!!! graham_Seagull

4:03pm Fri 11 Jan 13

jordancox says...

This academy is 30 seconds from my house. I am a former student 3 years ago.

The school was terrible when I was there before it turned into an academy, from what i had been hearing it had been getting better with the building of a new 6th form and thousands spent on new equipment and classrooms. Now this has come along...

Don't get me wrong, the school needs an authority figure, someone to teach the students to play by the rules whether they like it or not, however this is something else, excluding students because of nail varnish? My friend was excluded two days ago for wearing bracelets! This is all totally bonkers.

The school spends its whole attention and time on what the students wear and do instead of focusing on their main problem, the learning and exam results. Excluding students in the beginning of EXAM SEASON is WRONG! This needs to be done, but not now, not when Year 11s are revising and learning for the biggest month of their life. I can't imagine any of the excluded students learning from their sofas.

*Also it's 36 students that have been excluded, not 25.
This academy is 30 seconds from my house. I am a former student 3 years ago. The school was terrible when I was there before it turned into an academy, from what i had been hearing it had been getting better with the building of a new 6th form and thousands spent on new equipment and classrooms. Now this has come along... Don't get me wrong, the school needs an authority figure, someone to teach the students to play by the rules whether they like it or not, however this is something else, excluding students because of nail varnish? My friend was excluded two days ago for wearing bracelets! This is all totally bonkers. The school spends its whole attention and time on what the students wear and do instead of focusing on their main problem, the learning and exam results. Excluding students in the beginning of EXAM SEASON is WRONG! This needs to be done, but not now, not when Year 11s are revising and learning for the biggest month of their life. I can't imagine any of the excluded students learning from their sofas. *Also it's 36 students that have been excluded, not 25. jordancox

4:04pm Fri 11 Jan 13

hectic666 says...

My children attends this school and have been brought up to respect everyone,they all wear the correct uniform have no outrageous hairdo's etc,1 of my children has a medical condition that requires him to wear a medical bracelet at all times but he is now required to have a pass to enable him to carry on wearing his bracelet,if he cant find his pass when asked the bracelet will be removed these are the type of things that cause me great concern about the new head teacher and some of his new rules
My children attends this school and have been brought up to respect everyone,they all wear the correct uniform have no outrageous hairdo's etc,1 of my children has a medical condition that requires him to wear a medical bracelet at all times but he is now required to have a pass to enable him to carry on wearing his bracelet,if he cant find his pass when asked the bracelet will be removed these are the type of things that cause me great concern about the new head teacher and some of his new rules hectic666

4:10pm Fri 11 Jan 13

1o1o1o1 says...

well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform. 1o1o1o1

4:16pm Fri 11 Jan 13

poppet says...

brightonmike2011 wrote:
Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox?

Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.
Just so you know the parents are informed of an exclusion and the reasoning behind it.
[quote][p][bold]brightonmike2011[/bold] wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.[/p][/quote]Just so you know the parents are informed of an exclusion and the reasoning behind it. poppet

4:19pm Fri 11 Jan 13

george smith says...

graham_Seagull wrote:
tengri wrote:
brightonmike2011 wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.
How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.
Parents knew the rules since 2011, so have been ignoring them too and now blame the head for sticking to the rules.

You, the parents, have abdicated responsibility for applying the rules that you knew about, turned a blind eye too.

Now you whinge. Could make it up, incredible side stepping of parental responsibility!!!!
No wonder the kids don't follow the rules, if the parents have been ignoring them for over a year. What sort of parents are they?
[quote][p][bold]graham_Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tengri[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonmike2011[/bold] wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.[/p][/quote]How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.[/p][/quote]Parents knew the rules since 2011, so have been ignoring them too and now blame the head for sticking to the rules. You, the parents, have abdicated responsibility for applying the rules that you knew about, turned a blind eye too. Now you whinge. Could make it up, incredible side stepping of parental responsibility!!!![/p][/quote]No wonder the kids don't follow the rules, if the parents have been ignoring them for over a year. What sort of parents are they? george smith

4:23pm Fri 11 Jan 13

sarahjp says...

I echo FightBack's concern - the real issue here is the way in which a popular and respected headteacher has suddenly left and been replaced by someone who previously worked with a member of staff of the Aldridge Foundation.
I echo FightBack's concern - the real issue here is the way in which a popular and respected headteacher has suddenly left and been replaced by someone who previously worked with a member of staff of the Aldridge Foundation. sarahjp

4:24pm Fri 11 Jan 13

poppet says...

graham_Seagull wrote:
poppet wrote:
Fudge001 wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.
Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.
All guns blazing...you mean applying the existing rules that patents knew about.

Take responsibility!!!!!!

!
Sorry I didnt realise you had children at this school!! You obviously dont as you would know that the previous head had decided to relax certain rules previously. So please get your facts right before commenting! If you arent actually involved how on earth can you form an opinion from a newspaper story, which to be fair has down played what is actually going on.
[quote][p][bold]graham_Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poppet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.[/p][/quote]Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.[/p][/quote]All guns blazing...you mean applying the existing rules that patents knew about. Take responsibility!!!!!! ![/p][/quote]Sorry I didnt realise you had children at this school!! You obviously dont as you would know that the previous head had decided to relax certain rules previously. So please get your facts right before commenting! If you arent actually involved how on earth can you form an opinion from a newspaper story, which to be fair has down played what is actually going on. poppet

4:26pm Fri 11 Jan 13

graham w says...

Welll done mr Fox kep it up, a little bit of discipline never hurt any one, hooray,. a good head teacher and a strong board of govners.. well done ...
Welll done mr Fox kep it up, a little bit of discipline never hurt any one, hooray,. a good head teacher and a strong board of govners.. well done ... graham w

4:27pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Fudge001 says...

graham_Seagull wrote:
tengri wrote:
brightonmike2011 wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.
How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.
Parents knew the rules since 2011, so have been ignoring them too and now blame the head for sticking to the rules.

You, the parents, have abdicated responsibility for applying the rules that you knew about, turned a blind eye too.

Now you whinge. Could make it up, incredible side stepping of parental responsibility!!!!
Parents knew the rules set by Mr M in 2011 not the new ones added by Mr Fox and please don't question my integrity or ability as a parent its insulting.
[quote][p][bold]graham_Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tengri[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonmike2011[/bold] wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.[/p][/quote]How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.[/p][/quote]Parents knew the rules since 2011, so have been ignoring them too and now blame the head for sticking to the rules. You, the parents, have abdicated responsibility for applying the rules that you knew about, turned a blind eye too. Now you whinge. Could make it up, incredible side stepping of parental responsibility!!!![/p][/quote]Parents knew the rules set by Mr M in 2011 not the new ones added by Mr Fox and please don't question my integrity or ability as a parent its insulting. Fudge001

4:27pm Fri 11 Jan 13

daz0601 says...

The person who is a current student has just backed up why this needs doing,we dont listen and we dont like ppl telling us how to look,thats whats wrong with kids now they need the discipline,if ur child knew how to behave then the rules wouldnt effect them
The person who is a current student has just backed up why this needs doing,we dont listen and we dont like ppl telling us how to look,thats whats wrong with kids now they need the discipline,if ur child knew how to behave then the rules wouldnt effect them daz0601

4:33pm Fri 11 Jan 13

HJarrs says...

Good on you Mr Fox, keep up the good work. What we need is an increase in petty rules. We need to crush creativity, as the children from this accademy should be prepared to be worker drones uncondtionally accepting the petty rules of future employers.

I hope that you extend this to the families; fathers should where ties at all times and mothers should not wear skirts that are too short. They should be checked for cleanliness and tidyness. Slovenly parenting is just simply unacceptable.
Good on you Mr Fox, keep up the good work. What we need is an increase in petty rules. We need to crush creativity, as the children from this accademy should be prepared to be worker drones uncondtionally accepting the petty rules of future employers. I hope that you extend this to the families; fathers should where ties at all times and mothers should not wear skirts that are too short. They should be checked for cleanliness and tidyness. Slovenly parenting is just simply unacceptable. HJarrs

4:34pm Fri 11 Jan 13

platelet says...

1o1o1o1 wrote:
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.
Was it English Language that you had to unfortunately miss ?
[quote][p][bold]1o1o1o1[/bold] wrote: well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.[/p][/quote]Was it English Language that you had to unfortunately miss ? platelet

4:37pm Fri 11 Jan 13

poppet says...

Fudge001 wrote:
graham_Seagull wrote:
tengri wrote:
brightonmike2011 wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.
How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.
Parents knew the rules since 2011, so have been ignoring them too and now blame the head for sticking to the rules.

You, the parents, have abdicated responsibility for applying the rules that you knew about, turned a blind eye too.

Now you whinge. Could make it up, incredible side stepping of parental responsibility!!!!
Parents knew the rules set by Mr M in 2011 not the new ones added by Mr Fox and please don't question my integrity or ability as a parent its insulting.
I wouldnt take his comments too seriously Fudge as he is known to comment on virtually every argus story going. Sad that people have nothing better to do with their lives than argue with strangers about things they have no knowledge of. Secondly I thought the Argus was cracking down on Trolls?
[quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]graham_Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tengri[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonmike2011[/bold] wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.[/p][/quote]How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.[/p][/quote]Parents knew the rules since 2011, so have been ignoring them too and now blame the head for sticking to the rules. You, the parents, have abdicated responsibility for applying the rules that you knew about, turned a blind eye too. Now you whinge. Could make it up, incredible side stepping of parental responsibility!!!![/p][/quote]Parents knew the rules set by Mr M in 2011 not the new ones added by Mr Fox and please don't question my integrity or ability as a parent its insulting.[/p][/quote]I wouldnt take his comments too seriously Fudge as he is known to comment on virtually every argus story going. Sad that people have nothing better to do with their lives than argue with strangers about things they have no knowledge of. Secondly I thought the Argus was cracking down on Trolls? poppet

4:43pm Fri 11 Jan 13

BagelCat says...

Why is the Argus trying to make this man look like a fool?

Schools need more people like him. I wish I had a headteacher like that at my old school.
Why is the Argus trying to make this man look like a fool? Schools need more people like him. I wish I had a headteacher like that at my old school. BagelCat

4:50pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Horse55 says...

I am a Year 11 student at PACA and my year had our English Language GCSE exam this week. However, it appeared that the new headmaster was more concerned about the school's dress code than encouraging us to do our best, unlike the very much missed Mr McLaughlin. Whether the new enforced rules are too strict or not, I think that GCSE results, that the school will be overall judged on, should take priority. His assemblies, which he held consecutively to each year group throughout his first day, barely scratched the subject of exams. He was more concerned about concentrating where we eat into one hall, which does not have the capacity to hold a school of hungry students (we're commanded to sit down despite a significant lack of seating). On the first day of the new rules, a perfectly innocent student in my year was excluded, without warning, from the school for consuming a cheese sandwich outdoors. Yes, he was excluded over a "cheese sandwich"! This caused him to miss his final English lesson before Thursday's exam. With Mr McLaughlin, he had a passion to motivate students to do their best. Just by walking around the school with a smile on his face, he created a positive atmosphere. Fox hasn't even grinned; he wants to appear as a superior figure, rather than cooperate with students (and staff) on an equal wavelength. I'd love to express my opinions to the school but, of course, I'd be excluded! It's just too threatening to say anything encourging "anti-Foxism"!!
I am a Year 11 student at PACA and my year had our English Language GCSE exam this week. However, it appeared that the new headmaster was more concerned about the school's dress code than encouraging us to do our best, unlike the very much missed Mr McLaughlin. Whether the new enforced rules are too strict or not, I think that GCSE results, that the school will be overall judged on, should take priority. His assemblies, which he held consecutively to each year group throughout his first day, barely scratched the subject of exams. He was more concerned about concentrating where we eat into one hall, which does not have the capacity to hold a school of hungry students (we're commanded to sit down despite a significant lack of seating). On the first day of the new rules, a perfectly innocent student in my year was excluded, without warning, from the school for consuming a cheese sandwich outdoors. Yes, he was excluded over a "cheese sandwich"! This caused him to miss his final English lesson before Thursday's exam. With Mr McLaughlin, he had a passion to motivate students to do their best. Just by walking around the school with a smile on his face, he created a positive atmosphere. Fox hasn't even grinned; he wants to appear as a superior figure, rather than cooperate with students (and staff) on an equal wavelength. I'd love to express my opinions to the school but, of course, I'd be excluded! It's just too threatening to say anything encourging "anti-Foxism"!! Horse55

5:03pm Fri 11 Jan 13

mother_of_3 says...

In regards to the report on the new head teacher of PACA, I can honestly say it's about bloody time something was done. 25 suspended by Mr Fox, the new head. BRAVO!!!! My daughter attended that school from October 2010,in year 7 up until the end of last school year. She was constantly bullied at that school, and no matter how hard myself and her father tried to make contact with the previous head teacher, we were unable to. The previous head did nothing about the bullying at PACA. My daughter was beaten up several times at the school, more than once, in front of staff - WHO DID NOTHING. The bullies to this day, remain at that school, and my daughter was forced to leave and start afresh this year at a new school, on the other side of town DUE TO PACA DOING NOTHING ABOUT THE BULLYING. Maybe now the students who bully at PACA will now see that the new head means business and what he will do to trouble makers. Well Done Mr Fox, pity you weren't head when my daughter attended the school. Oh and the man who is a teacher there, who does not want to be named, I bet that's Mr Robinson - just one of the teachers who witnessed my daughter being beaten up in the Oasis one day and DID NOTHING.
In regards to the report on the new head teacher of PACA, I can honestly say it's about bloody time something was done. 25 suspended by Mr Fox, the new head. BRAVO!!!! My daughter attended that school from October 2010,in year 7 up until the end of last school year. She was constantly bullied at that school, and no matter how hard myself and her father tried to make contact with the previous head teacher, we were unable to. The previous head did nothing about the bullying at PACA. My daughter was beaten up several times at the school, more than once, in front of staff - WHO DID NOTHING. The bullies to this day, remain at that school, and my daughter was forced to leave and start afresh this year at a new school, on the other side of town DUE TO PACA DOING NOTHING ABOUT THE BULLYING. Maybe now the students who bully at PACA will now see that the new head means business and what he will do to trouble makers. Well Done Mr Fox, pity you weren't head when my daughter attended the school. Oh and the man who is a teacher there, who does not want to be named, I bet that's Mr Robinson - just one of the teachers who witnessed my daughter being beaten up in the Oasis one day and DID NOTHING. mother_of_3

5:09pm Fri 11 Jan 13

darkasnight1 says...

Dear Graham_Seagull aka the resident troll you really should stop insulting our parental responsibilities Get your facts right The rules were changed since Mr M left in December Mr Fox just charged in with new reinforcements,How were the children or parents to know ?? Are we as parents meant to be psychic ?? Maybe the pupils should be taught to read minds ??
and as a side note I also thought the Argus would be less tolerant of trolls,Comment on what you know about,Or go and get a life.
Dear Graham_Seagull aka the resident troll you really should stop insulting our parental responsibilities Get your facts right The rules were changed since Mr M left in December Mr Fox just charged in with new reinforcements,How were the children or parents to know ?? Are we as parents meant to be psychic ?? Maybe the pupils should be taught to read minds ?? and as a side note I also thought the Argus would be less tolerant of trolls,Comment on what you know about,Or go and get a life. darkasnight1

5:14pm Fri 11 Jan 13

KIS says says...

I am reading these comments with interest. My child attends this school, and my first reaction is that I am pleased that someone is prepared to enforce the school rules.

My child is wary about the new appointment of Mr Fox, but really has no need as he is very well behaved and motivated. I would be unhappy if he was excluded without a reasonable reason. If he behaved inappropriately I would expect him to have a suitable / FAIR consequence for his actions. I think Mr Fox is going to need to find a balance between enforcing rules and also being motivating and encouraging.

The first half term is bound to be tough as he has to make a stand. I have read the recent Ofsted report and behaviour is still a major issue at this school. My child tells me that classes are often disrupted by bad behaviour.

I just hope that all this settles down soon, so that Mr Fox can concentrate on raising the standard of education and working on the improvements already started by Mr McLaughlin.

I'm sure that most other parents like myself just want their child to leave this school with the aspirations to carry on in education and get on in life. We should support Mr Fox - like it or not...
I am reading these comments with interest. My child attends this school, and my first reaction is that I am pleased that someone is prepared to enforce the school rules. My child is wary about the new appointment of Mr Fox, but really has no need as he is very well behaved and motivated. I would be unhappy if he was excluded without a reasonable reason. If he behaved inappropriately I would expect him to have a suitable / FAIR consequence for his actions. I think Mr Fox is going to need to find a balance between enforcing rules and also being motivating and encouraging. The first half term is bound to be tough as he has to make a stand. I have read the recent Ofsted report and behaviour is still a major issue at this school. My child tells me that classes are often disrupted by bad behaviour. I just hope that all this settles down soon, so that Mr Fox can concentrate on raising the standard of education and working on the improvements already started by Mr McLaughlin. I'm sure that most other parents like myself just want their child to leave this school with the aspirations to carry on in education and get on in life. We should support Mr Fox - like it or not... KIS says

5:15pm Fri 11 Jan 13

daz0601 says...

HJarrs wrote:
Good on you Mr Fox, keep up the good work. What we need is an increase in petty rules. We need to crush creativity, as the children from this accademy should be prepared to be worker drones uncondtionally accepting the petty rules of future employers.

I hope that you extend this to the families; fathers should where ties at all times and mothers should not wear skirts that are too short. They should be checked for cleanliness and tidyness. Slovenly parenting is just simply unacceptable.
These rules are nothing to do with employing petty rules its about teaching kids right from wrong,children in this country on a whole at that age are unruley and have no respect for elders or rules,when i grew up u was scared of ur local bobbie on the beat or ur head master now the kids just tell them to f off and we as adults are to scared to punish for worry about reprisal,its about time someone got a grip
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Good on you Mr Fox, keep up the good work. What we need is an increase in petty rules. We need to crush creativity, as the children from this accademy should be prepared to be worker drones uncondtionally accepting the petty rules of future employers. I hope that you extend this to the families; fathers should where ties at all times and mothers should not wear skirts that are too short. They should be checked for cleanliness and tidyness. Slovenly parenting is just simply unacceptable.[/p][/quote]These rules are nothing to do with employing petty rules its about teaching kids right from wrong,children in this country on a whole at that age are unruley and have no respect for elders or rules,when i grew up u was scared of ur local bobbie on the beat or ur head master now the kids just tell them to f off and we as adults are to scared to punish for worry about reprisal,its about time someone got a grip daz0601

5:16pm Fri 11 Jan 13

mother_of_3 says...

darkasnight1 wrote:
Dear Graham_Seagull aka the resident troll you really should stop insulting our parental responsibilities Get your facts right The rules were changed since Mr M left in December Mr Fox just charged in with new reinforcements,How were the children or parents to know ?? Are we as parents meant to be psychic ?? Maybe the pupils should be taught to read minds ??
and as a side note I also thought the Argus would be less tolerant of trolls,Comment on what you know about,Or go and get a life.
darkasnight1 - don't waste your time, replying to the troll. it's what they get off on! but can you honestly say that the school was "OUTSTANDING" prior MR M's sacking? of course you can't - why else would the school be changed to an accadmy? it's a terrible school and Mr Fox obviously seems the sort who can do the job right and deal with the problems at that school. My daughter put up with so much at that school for 2 years, cos the staff nor Mr M could be arsed to act and deal with those who made my daughter's life a misery there. Mr Fox is the best thing for that school.
[quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: Dear Graham_Seagull aka the resident troll you really should stop insulting our parental responsibilities Get your facts right The rules were changed since Mr M left in December Mr Fox just charged in with new reinforcements,How were the children or parents to know ?? Are we as parents meant to be psychic ?? Maybe the pupils should be taught to read minds ?? and as a side note I also thought the Argus would be less tolerant of trolls,Comment on what you know about,Or go and get a life.[/p][/quote]darkasnight1 - don't waste your time, replying to the troll. it's what they get off on! but can you honestly say that the school was "OUTSTANDING" prior MR M's sacking? of course you can't - why else would the school be changed to an accadmy? it's a terrible school and Mr Fox obviously seems the sort who can do the job right and deal with the problems at that school. My daughter put up with so much at that school for 2 years, cos the staff nor Mr M could be arsed to act and deal with those who made my daughter's life a misery there. Mr Fox is the best thing for that school. mother_of_3

5:17pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Brightonian1966 says...

Well done Foxy old love.Let the parents deal with problem
Well done Foxy old love.Let the parents deal with problem Brightonian1966

5:28pm Fri 11 Jan 13

darkshadows says...

Right, I'm a year 11 student at PACA and I'm not going to lie, these rules are ridiculous! I've been sent out of lessons for wearing nail varnish. i also gained a principals detention for drinking water during a lesson. i strongly suggest the school sort out its problems of discipline and rats before judging every student on their appearance! Ever since Fox has joined, there has been no support for us Year 11's who took an English Language exam yesterday. We've had no encouragement from Fox at all whereas Mr Mclaughlin was so supportive, friendly and always smiled. One of the rules is that all students must eat in the Canteen. There are nearly 800 pupils in the school with only about 100-200 seats in the canteen. Utterly ridiculous. PACA, sort out the rats and discipline rule before taking away our individuality without any justification for these reasons. All Mr. Fox cares about is making himself look good by enforcing rules rather then supporting us Year 11's on our current journey through exams. Excluding people doesn't solve anything; its what they want! i agree, disciplining students is important, but for him to come into our school and simply take over is wrong. Ive spoken to many teachers and they've all told me how they feel. They said they're only abiding by these rules to keep their jobs!
Right, I'm a year 11 student at PACA and I'm not going to lie, these rules are ridiculous! I've been sent out of lessons for wearing nail varnish. i also gained a principals detention for drinking water during a lesson. i strongly suggest the school sort out its problems of discipline and rats before judging every student on their appearance! Ever since Fox has joined, there has been no support for us Year 11's who took an English Language exam yesterday. We've had no encouragement from Fox at all whereas Mr Mclaughlin was so supportive, friendly and always smiled. One of the rules is that all students must eat in the Canteen. There are nearly 800 pupils in the school with only about 100-200 seats in the canteen. Utterly ridiculous. PACA, sort out the rats and discipline rule before taking away our individuality without any justification for these reasons. All Mr. Fox cares about is making himself look good by enforcing rules rather then supporting us Year 11's on our current journey through exams. Excluding people doesn't solve anything; its what they want! i agree, disciplining students is important, but for him to come into our school and simply take over is wrong. Ive spoken to many teachers and they've all told me how they feel. They said they're only abiding by these rules to keep their jobs! darkshadows

5:49pm Fri 11 Jan 13

mother_of_3 says...

darkshadows wrote:
Right, I'm a year 11 student at PACA and I'm not going to lie, these rules are ridiculous! I've been sent out of lessons for wearing nail varnish. i also gained a principals detention for drinking water during a lesson. i strongly suggest the school sort out its problems of discipline and rats before judging every student on their appearance! Ever since Fox has joined, there has been no support for us Year 11's who took an English Language exam yesterday. We've had no encouragement from Fox at all whereas Mr Mclaughlin was so supportive, friendly and always smiled. One of the rules is that all students must eat in the Canteen. There are nearly 800 pupils in the school with only about 100-200 seats in the canteen. Utterly ridiculous. PACA, sort out the rats and discipline rule before taking away our individuality without any justification for these reasons. All Mr. Fox cares about is making himself look good by enforcing rules rather then supporting us Year 11's on our current journey through exams. Excluding people doesn't solve anything; its what they want! i agree, disciplining students is important, but for him to come into our school and simply take over is wrong. Ive spoken to many teachers and they've all told me how they feel. They said they're only abiding by these rules to keep their jobs!
Mr Mclaughlin was so supportive, friendly and always smiled. -- I'd like to know when this had ever been, darkshadows. myself, husband and daughter NEVER had his "support" when the bullying began to my daughter. We could NEVER get an appointment with him, let alone get him on the phone to complain about what was happening to my daughter. We were always passed onto Mr Robinson - NEVER MR M.
[quote][p][bold]darkshadows[/bold] wrote: Right, I'm a year 11 student at PACA and I'm not going to lie, these rules are ridiculous! I've been sent out of lessons for wearing nail varnish. i also gained a principals detention for drinking water during a lesson. i strongly suggest the school sort out its problems of discipline and rats before judging every student on their appearance! Ever since Fox has joined, there has been no support for us Year 11's who took an English Language exam yesterday. We've had no encouragement from Fox at all whereas Mr Mclaughlin was so supportive, friendly and always smiled. One of the rules is that all students must eat in the Canteen. There are nearly 800 pupils in the school with only about 100-200 seats in the canteen. Utterly ridiculous. PACA, sort out the rats and discipline rule before taking away our individuality without any justification for these reasons. All Mr. Fox cares about is making himself look good by enforcing rules rather then supporting us Year 11's on our current journey through exams. Excluding people doesn't solve anything; its what they want! i agree, disciplining students is important, but for him to come into our school and simply take over is wrong. Ive spoken to many teachers and they've all told me how they feel. They said they're only abiding by these rules to keep their jobs![/p][/quote]Mr Mclaughlin was so supportive, friendly and always smiled. -- I'd like to know when this had ever been, darkshadows. myself, husband and daughter NEVER had his "support" when the bullying began to my daughter. We could NEVER get an appointment with him, let alone get him on the phone to complain about what was happening to my daughter. We were always passed onto Mr Robinson - NEVER MR M. mother_of_3

5:56pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

mother_of_3 wrote:
In regards to the report on the new head teacher of PACA, I can honestly say it's about bloody time something was done. 25 suspended by Mr Fox, the new head. BRAVO!!!! My daughter attended that school from October 2010,in year 7 up until the end of last school year. She was constantly bullied at that school, and no matter how hard myself and her father tried to make contact with the previous head teacher, we were unable to. The previous head did nothing about the bullying at PACA. My daughter was beaten up several times at the school, more than once, in front of staff - WHO DID NOTHING. The bullies to this day, remain at that school, and my daughter was forced to leave and start afresh this year at a new school, on the other side of town DUE TO PACA DOING NOTHING ABOUT THE BULLYING. Maybe now the students who bully at PACA will now see that the new head means business and what he will do to trouble makers. Well Done Mr Fox, pity you weren't head when my daughter attended the school. Oh and the man who is a teacher there, who does not want to be named, I bet that's Mr Robinson - just one of the teachers who witnessed my daughter being beaten up in the Oasis one day and DID NOTHING.
I would advise you to report any kind of physical attacks to the police. Assault is a crime.
[quote][p][bold]mother_of_3[/bold] wrote: In regards to the report on the new head teacher of PACA, I can honestly say it's about bloody time something was done. 25 suspended by Mr Fox, the new head. BRAVO!!!! My daughter attended that school from October 2010,in year 7 up until the end of last school year. She was constantly bullied at that school, and no matter how hard myself and her father tried to make contact with the previous head teacher, we were unable to. The previous head did nothing about the bullying at PACA. My daughter was beaten up several times at the school, more than once, in front of staff - WHO DID NOTHING. The bullies to this day, remain at that school, and my daughter was forced to leave and start afresh this year at a new school, on the other side of town DUE TO PACA DOING NOTHING ABOUT THE BULLYING. Maybe now the students who bully at PACA will now see that the new head means business and what he will do to trouble makers. Well Done Mr Fox, pity you weren't head when my daughter attended the school. Oh and the man who is a teacher there, who does not want to be named, I bet that's Mr Robinson - just one of the teachers who witnessed my daughter being beaten up in the Oasis one day and DID NOTHING.[/p][/quote]I would advise you to report any kind of physical attacks to the police. Assault is a crime. Mrs Newcastle

6:03pm Fri 11 Jan 13

teacher3456 says...

PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year. teacher3456

6:11pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Thetruth666 says...

It sounds to me like the parents of these children need a boot up their back sides also.If the children are that out of control that they are abusing the teachers then they need someone with the balls to tackle the problem.I just hope he is allowed to continue and not removed by the PC brigade.As for the tone of this article i thought the point of a news paper was to report the news in a fair manner.This article is so one sided it stinks.Mr Fox should be commended for taking this stance.
It sounds to me like the parents of these children need a boot up their back sides also.If the children are that out of control that they are abusing the teachers then they need someone with the balls to tackle the problem.I just hope he is allowed to continue and not removed by the PC brigade.As for the tone of this article i thought the point of a news paper was to report the news in a fair manner.This article is so one sided it stinks.Mr Fox should be commended for taking this stance. Thetruth666

6:19pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Thetruth666 says...

Also i think the comment by the pupil shows what has happened here."Excluding people doesn't solve anything; its what they want! i agree, disciplining students is important, but for him to come into our school and simply take over is wrong".Do what?Of course he will take over,he's the head!It's his job.Now shut up moaning,behave yourself and grow up.
Also i think the comment by the pupil shows what has happened here."Excluding people doesn't solve anything; its what they want! i agree, disciplining students is important, but for him to come into our school and simply take over is wrong".Do what?Of course he will take over,he's the head!It's his job.Now shut up moaning,behave yourself and grow up. Thetruth666

6:21pm Fri 11 Jan 13

jw9202 says...

As a parent of a child from his last school I can only offer my condolences, this man should not be allowed to teach, he is a bully in a position of authority which is a dangerous thing. My son has Asperges but that didn't stop Fox for excluding him for 3 days, in his first weeks at the school, for a playground accident that ended in a broken collar bone for one of his friends, something that he felt bad enough about. Fox thought it was perfectly ok for him to tell my son that he was going to get rid of him (without speaking to us) to another school because he felt he didn't fit in with his plan for the school, it got to the point he was so scared of Fox that he didn't want to go to school, & this was all in his first term at a secondary school & the last few months Fox was there. All I'll say is that if your child is in need of special education then change schools as he'll brand them as problems to be removed & before you know it they'll excluded, getting detentions & it's not them but him. Good luck.
As a parent of a child from his last school I can only offer my condolences, this man should not be allowed to teach, he is a bully in a position of authority which is a dangerous thing. My son has Asperges but that didn't stop Fox for excluding him for 3 days, in his first weeks at the school, for a playground accident that ended in a broken collar bone for one of his friends, something that he felt bad enough about. Fox thought it was perfectly ok for him to tell my son that he was going to get rid of him (without speaking to us) to another school because he felt he didn't fit in with his plan for the school, it got to the point he was so scared of Fox that he didn't want to go to school, & this was all in his first term at a secondary school & the last few months Fox was there. All I'll say is that if your child is in need of special education then change schools as he'll brand them as problems to be removed & before you know it they'll excluded, getting detentions & it's not them but him. Good luck. jw9202

6:25pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Thetruth666 says...

And you display a total lack of respect again.Fox?Do you mean Mr Fox?
And you display a total lack of respect again.Fox?Do you mean Mr Fox? Thetruth666

6:27pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Roundbill says...

Oh come on people, WAKE UP - it's obvious what he's up to.
When he was being interviewed by the governors, he guaranteed them he could rescue the school from "needs improvement" status by increasing the GCSE pass-rate by X per cent. Now he's realised he's wa-a-ay short of that target, and so he's hand-picked and excluded anybody he doesn't think will pass their exams. That way they don't show up as "entered and failed", so he can bump up the school's overall pass-rate.
Oh come on people, WAKE UP - it's obvious what he's up to. When he was being interviewed by the governors, he guaranteed them he could rescue the school from "needs improvement" status by increasing the GCSE pass-rate by X per cent. Now he's realised he's wa-a-ay short of that target, and so he's hand-picked and excluded anybody he doesn't think will pass their exams. That way they don't show up as "entered and failed", so he can bump up the school's overall pass-rate. Roundbill

6:28pm Fri 11 Jan 13

mother_of_3 says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
mother_of_3 wrote:
In regards to the report on the new head teacher of PACA, I can honestly say it's about bloody time something was done. 25 suspended by Mr Fox, the new head. BRAVO!!!! My daughter attended that school from October 2010,in year 7 up until the end of last school year. She was constantly bullied at that school, and no matter how hard myself and her father tried to make contact with the previous head teacher, we were unable to. The previous head did nothing about the bullying at PACA. My daughter was beaten up several times at the school, more than once, in front of staff - WHO DID NOTHING. The bullies to this day, remain at that school, and my daughter was forced to leave and start afresh this year at a new school, on the other side of town DUE TO PACA DOING NOTHING ABOUT THE BULLYING. Maybe now the students who bully at PACA will now see that the new head means business and what he will do to trouble makers. Well Done Mr Fox, pity you weren't head when my daughter attended the school. Oh and the man who is a teacher there, who does not want to be named, I bet that's Mr Robinson - just one of the teachers who witnessed my daughter being beaten up in the Oasis one day and DID NOTHING.
I would advise you to report any kind of physical attacks to the police. Assault is a crime.
it ALL happened IN that school - the police could not and would not get involved, seeing as it was PACA's problem, a SCHOOL problem.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mother_of_3[/bold] wrote: In regards to the report on the new head teacher of PACA, I can honestly say it's about bloody time something was done. 25 suspended by Mr Fox, the new head. BRAVO!!!! My daughter attended that school from October 2010,in year 7 up until the end of last school year. She was constantly bullied at that school, and no matter how hard myself and her father tried to make contact with the previous head teacher, we were unable to. The previous head did nothing about the bullying at PACA. My daughter was beaten up several times at the school, more than once, in front of staff - WHO DID NOTHING. The bullies to this day, remain at that school, and my daughter was forced to leave and start afresh this year at a new school, on the other side of town DUE TO PACA DOING NOTHING ABOUT THE BULLYING. Maybe now the students who bully at PACA will now see that the new head means business and what he will do to trouble makers. Well Done Mr Fox, pity you weren't head when my daughter attended the school. Oh and the man who is a teacher there, who does not want to be named, I bet that's Mr Robinson - just one of the teachers who witnessed my daughter being beaten up in the Oasis one day and DID NOTHING.[/p][/quote]I would advise you to report any kind of physical attacks to the police. Assault is a crime.[/p][/quote]it ALL happened IN that school - the police could not and would not get involved, seeing as it was PACA's problem, a SCHOOL problem. mother_of_3

6:30pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

The goals at this school seems not to promote a sense of accomplishment for a job well done or for good behaviour the goal is not to foster independent thought about ones actions and how they affect others. The goal is not to develop effective communication skills nor is it develop positive accountability for ones actions. The goal of using this style of discipline on on children is simple "control"
.
"I can control you. I control your body. If you do something that does not conform to my ideals I can force you ."
This is in essence on a deep level, on a psychic level saying "you are no longer a separate entity. You will obey me. I own you."
The whole premise being to destroy the sense of self, of individualism. This is necessary in the military to ensure a very strong sense of reliance on your fellow recruits.So I see it has a place. But not on developing minds, not on children who are only learning how to handle social and emotional issues. It is dangerous to to the mental and well being of children,
The goals at this school seems not to promote a sense of accomplishment for a job well done or for good behaviour the goal is not to foster independent thought about ones actions and how they affect others. The goal is not to develop effective communication skills nor is it develop positive accountability for ones actions. The goal of using this style of discipline on on children is simple "control" . "I can control you. I control your body. If you do something that does not conform to my ideals I can force you ." This is in essence on a deep level, on a psychic level saying "you are no longer a separate entity. You will obey me. I own you." The whole premise being to destroy the sense of self, of individualism. This is necessary in the military to ensure a very strong sense of reliance on your fellow recruits.So I see it has a place. But not on developing minds, not on children who are only learning how to handle social and emotional issues. It is dangerous to to the mental and well being of children, Mrs Newcastle

6:39pm Fri 11 Jan 13

jw9202 says...

Thetruth666 wrote:
And you display a total lack of respect again.Fox?Do you mean Mr Fox?
'Lack of respect again', when was the first instance? but you're right I have no respect for a man that acts like a bully on children, also I was taught respect is something you earn not given so he's a long way short of that with me.
[quote][p][bold]Thetruth666[/bold] wrote: And you display a total lack of respect again.Fox?Do you mean Mr Fox?[/p][/quote]'Lack of respect again', when was the first instance? but you're right I have no respect for a man that acts like a bully on children, also I was taught respect is something you earn not given so he's a long way short of that with me. jw9202

6:42pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Thetruth666 says...

I was referring to your continued use of "Fox".If respect is earn't then you won't have earn't it calling him "Fox" would you?Does your little darling have the same attitude as you?If so i think MR Fox has some more important work to be doing...
I was referring to your continued use of "Fox".If respect is earn't then you won't have earn't it calling him "Fox" would you?Does your little darling have the same attitude as you?If so i think MR Fox has some more important work to be doing... Thetruth666

6:43pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Ballroom Blitz says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
The goals at this school seems not to promote a sense of accomplishment for a job well done or for good behaviour the goal is not to foster independent thought about ones actions and how they affect others. The goal is not to develop effective communication skills nor is it develop positive accountability for ones actions. The goal of using this style of discipline on on children is simple "control"
.
"I can control you. I control your body. If you do something that does not conform to my ideals I can force you ."
This is in essence on a deep level, on a psychic level saying "you are no longer a separate entity. You will obey me. I own you."
The whole premise being to destroy the sense of self, of individualism. This is necessary in the military to ensure a very strong sense of reliance on your fellow recruits.So I see it has a place. But not on developing minds, not on children who are only learning how to handle social and emotional issues. It is dangerous to to the mental and well being of children,
Wrong. It's exactly what we had in the 50s and 60s, and it's the right approach.
It's NOT dangerous to pupils mental health. Get real.
They don't like it because they aren't used to real discipline.
Carry on Mr Fox.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: The goals at this school seems not to promote a sense of accomplishment for a job well done or for good behaviour the goal is not to foster independent thought about ones actions and how they affect others. The goal is not to develop effective communication skills nor is it develop positive accountability for ones actions. The goal of using this style of discipline on on children is simple "control" . "I can control you. I control your body. If you do something that does not conform to my ideals I can force you ." This is in essence on a deep level, on a psychic level saying "you are no longer a separate entity. You will obey me. I own you." The whole premise being to destroy the sense of self, of individualism. This is necessary in the military to ensure a very strong sense of reliance on your fellow recruits.So I see it has a place. But not on developing minds, not on children who are only learning how to handle social and emotional issues. It is dangerous to to the mental and well being of children,[/p][/quote]Wrong. It's exactly what we had in the 50s and 60s, and it's the right approach. It's NOT dangerous to pupils mental health. Get real. They don't like it because they aren't used to real discipline. Carry on Mr Fox. Ballroom Blitz

6:51pm Fri 11 Jan 13

wiltshire99 says...

sarahjp wrote:
I echo FightBack's concern - the real issue here is the way in which a popular and respected headteacher has suddenly left and been replaced by someone who previously worked with a member of staff of the Aldridge Foundation.
Oh yes... This is just the beginning!

Reading the article feels like history repeating itself. Exactly the same happened at his previous school. The uniform blitz (an easy win with parents - page 1 of the new Headteacher handbook) happened initially, but then scratch the surface and he had no other ideas.

I am astonished that he has been allowed into a school to work with children again after the numerous serious allegations which led to his suspension and 'removal' from his previous school. However, considering who is the Director of Education at the Aldridge Foundation, it comes as no surprise.

Good luck everyone there. You're going to need it!
[quote][p][bold]sarahjp[/bold] wrote: I echo FightBack's concern - the real issue here is the way in which a popular and respected headteacher has suddenly left and been replaced by someone who previously worked with a member of staff of the Aldridge Foundation.[/p][/quote]Oh yes... This is just the beginning! Reading the article feels like history repeating itself. Exactly the same happened at his previous school. The uniform blitz (an easy win with parents - page 1 of the new Headteacher handbook) happened initially, but then scratch the surface and he had no other ideas. I am astonished that he has been allowed into a school to work with children again after the numerous serious allegations which led to his suspension and 'removal' from his previous school. However, considering who is the Director of Education at the Aldridge Foundation, it comes as no surprise. Good luck everyone there. You're going to need it! wiltshire99

6:57pm Fri 11 Jan 13

jw9202 says...

Thetruth666 wrote:
I was referring to your continued use of "Fox".If respect is earn't then you won't have earn't it calling him "Fox" would you?Does your little darling have the same attitude as you?If so i think MR Fox has some more important work to be doing...
No my son has Asperges, if you had bothered to read all of my comment you would of seen that & the fact that he was in the last school he was headmaster so there's no work to be done by him on my son anymore thankfully, but that just goes to show your IGNORANCE & I like I said I have no respect for him so don't really care if he had none for me, fortunately for him I never came face to face with him as I work away.
[quote][p][bold]Thetruth666[/bold] wrote: I was referring to your continued use of "Fox".If respect is earn't then you won't have earn't it calling him "Fox" would you?Does your little darling have the same attitude as you?If so i think MR Fox has some more important work to be doing...[/p][/quote]No my son has Asperges, if you had bothered to read all of my comment you would of seen that & the fact that he was in the last school he was headmaster so there's no work to be done by him on my son anymore thankfully, but that just goes to show your IGNORANCE & I like I said I have no respect for him so don't really care if he had none for me, fortunately for him I never came face to face with him as I work away. jw9202

6:59pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

Ballroom Blitz wrote:
Mrs Newcastle wrote:
The goals at this school seems not to promote a sense of accomplishment for a job well done or for good behaviour the goal is not to foster independent thought about ones actions and how they affect others. The goal is not to develop effective communication skills nor is it develop positive accountability for ones actions. The goal of using this style of discipline on on children is simple "control"
.
"I can control you. I control your body. If you do something that does not conform to my ideals I can force you ."
This is in essence on a deep level, on a psychic level saying "you are no longer a separate entity. You will obey me. I own you."
The whole premise being to destroy the sense of self, of individualism. This is necessary in the military to ensure a very strong sense of reliance on your fellow recruits.So I see it has a place. But not on developing minds, not on children who are only learning how to handle social and emotional issues. It is dangerous to to the mental and well being of children,
Wrong. It's exactly what we had in the 50s and 60s, and it's the right approach.
It's NOT dangerous to pupils mental health. Get real.
They don't like it because they aren't used to real discipline.
Carry on Mr Fox.
There is no right or wrong just different views. You don't get to say my view is wrong, so i will take it you don't agree with my view.You ignorance its your problem not mine.Please show some respect for my view even if you don't agree with it.
[quote][p][bold]Ballroom Blitz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: The goals at this school seems not to promote a sense of accomplishment for a job well done or for good behaviour the goal is not to foster independent thought about ones actions and how they affect others. The goal is not to develop effective communication skills nor is it develop positive accountability for ones actions. The goal of using this style of discipline on on children is simple "control" . "I can control you. I control your body. If you do something that does not conform to my ideals I can force you ." This is in essence on a deep level, on a psychic level saying "you are no longer a separate entity. You will obey me. I own you." The whole premise being to destroy the sense of self, of individualism. This is necessary in the military to ensure a very strong sense of reliance on your fellow recruits.So I see it has a place. But not on developing minds, not on children who are only learning how to handle social and emotional issues. It is dangerous to to the mental and well being of children,[/p][/quote]Wrong. It's exactly what we had in the 50s and 60s, and it's the right approach. It's NOT dangerous to pupils mental health. Get real. They don't like it because they aren't used to real discipline. Carry on Mr Fox.[/p][/quote]There is no right or wrong just different views. You don't get to say my view is wrong, so i will take it you don't agree with my view.You ignorance its your problem not mine.Please show some respect for my view even if you don't agree with it. Mrs Newcastle

7:03pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Thetruth666 says...

I am aware that you said your son has Aspergers (not Asperges) as per your comment.The only ignorance here is you assuming i hadn't read that.To assume your son has no responsibility for his behaviour due to this is wrong on every level.I speak from the perspective of someone who lives around the condition on a daily basis before you through your toys out the pram.To say " fortunately for him I never came face to face with him as I work away" tells me all i need to know about you.
I am aware that you said your son has Aspergers (not Asperges) as per your comment.The only ignorance here is you assuming i hadn't read that.To assume your son has no responsibility for his behaviour due to this is wrong on every level.I speak from the perspective of someone who lives around the condition on a daily basis before you through your toys out the pram.To say " fortunately for him I never came face to face with him as I work away" tells me all i need to know about you. Thetruth666

7:16pm Fri 11 Jan 13

concernedmother1 says...

Should we be worried that he has a legal agreement to stop anyone knowing the reason he had to leave his previous school? If he wishes to cntinue to be a teacher then I think the parents have a right to know why he was suspended, before he is allowed to teach their children.

I totally agree that the school needs a good shake up, but he has gone about this in totally the wrong way.

He should not stop children wearing coats and jackets, especially with the cold weather being forecast this week. I would like to see him walk to school every morning in his school uniform!

Speaking of which, why are the teachers allowed to have coloured hair (and i dont mean blondes or browns) at a parent consultation evening one of my daughter's teachers had purple hair!
Should we be worried that he has a legal agreement to stop anyone knowing the reason he had to leave his previous school? If he wishes to cntinue to be a teacher then I think the parents have a right to know why he was suspended, before he is allowed to teach their children. I totally agree that the school needs a good shake up, but he has gone about this in totally the wrong way. He should not stop children wearing coats and jackets, especially with the cold weather being forecast this week. I would like to see him walk to school every morning in his school uniform! Speaking of which, why are the teachers allowed to have coloured hair (and i dont mean blondes or browns) at a parent consultation evening one of my daughter's teachers had purple hair! concernedmother1

7:28pm Fri 11 Jan 13

jw9202 says...

Thetruth666 wrote:
I am aware that you said your son has Aspergers (not Asperges) as per your comment.The only ignorance here is you assuming i hadn't read that.To assume your son has no responsibility for his behaviour due to this is wrong on every level.I speak from the perspective of someone who lives around the condition on a daily basis before you through your toys out the pram.To say " fortunately for him I never came face to face with him as I work away" tells me all i need to know about you.
As does yours me & no I doubt very much I'd like you either. There is no excuse for bullying, plain & simple. There was never any assuming that my son wasn't taking responsibility, in fact it was the other kids abusing the fact of his Aspergers, as my son has been brought up with rules because of if, it's part of his condition like an ocd type effect, so when he sees other misbehaving in class he speaks out & they'd do it deliberately to get him trouble & it was that which Fox was using against him rather than helping with, so I don't care what you say I've had 1st hand experience of the affect that man can have on kids & it's not good. Unless your a straight A student, because that's all he's interested in, everybody else needs to keep a low profile & hope you don't pop up on his radar.
[quote][p][bold]Thetruth666[/bold] wrote: I am aware that you said your son has Aspergers (not Asperges) as per your comment.The only ignorance here is you assuming i hadn't read that.To assume your son has no responsibility for his behaviour due to this is wrong on every level.I speak from the perspective of someone who lives around the condition on a daily basis before you through your toys out the pram.To say " fortunately for him I never came face to face with him as I work away" tells me all i need to know about you.[/p][/quote]As does yours me & no I doubt very much I'd like you either. There is no excuse for bullying, plain & simple. There was never any assuming that my son wasn't taking responsibility, in fact it was the other kids abusing the fact of his Aspergers, as my son has been brought up with rules because of if, it's part of his condition like an ocd type effect, so when he sees other misbehaving in class he speaks out & they'd do it deliberately to get him trouble & it was that which Fox was using against him rather than helping with, so I don't care what you say I've had 1st hand experience of the affect that man can have on kids & it's not good. Unless your a straight A student, because that's all he's interested in, everybody else needs to keep a low profile & hope you don't pop up on his radar. jw9202

7:41pm Fri 11 Jan 13

darkshadows says...

Telling me to shut up, grow up and behave isn't very respectful is it? I'm entitled to my own opinion. I suggest someone goes back to school and learns some PROPER manners.
Telling me to shut up, grow up and behave isn't very respectful is it? I'm entitled to my own opinion. I suggest someone goes back to school and learns some PROPER manners. darkshadows

7:44pm Fri 11 Jan 13

jw9202 says...

concernedmother1 wrote:
Should we be worried that he has a legal agreement to stop anyone knowing the reason he had to leave his previous school? If he wishes to cntinue to be a teacher then I think the parents have a right to know why he was suspended, before he is allowed to teach their children.

I totally agree that the school needs a good shake up, but he has gone about this in totally the wrong way.

He should not stop children wearing coats and jackets, especially with the cold weather being forecast this week. I would like to see him walk to school every morning in his school uniform!

Speaking of which, why are the teachers allowed to have coloured hair (and i dont mean blondes or browns) at a parent consultation evening one of my daughter's teachers had purple hair!
We weren't told why he was suspended, but when he turned up he took a lot of new staff on, then in about October/November he started giving out redundancy notices & that ended up in the papers & we don't think the council were in the loop about it as that's when he was suddenly put on gardening leave, but don't quote me on that, I don't think the board of governors even know why, just him & the council. He was as bad with the teaching staff as he was with the kids so don't be surprised if some of them some of them start leaving soon.
[quote][p][bold]concernedmother1[/bold] wrote: Should we be worried that he has a legal agreement to stop anyone knowing the reason he had to leave his previous school? If he wishes to cntinue to be a teacher then I think the parents have a right to know why he was suspended, before he is allowed to teach their children. I totally agree that the school needs a good shake up, but he has gone about this in totally the wrong way. He should not stop children wearing coats and jackets, especially with the cold weather being forecast this week. I would like to see him walk to school every morning in his school uniform! Speaking of which, why are the teachers allowed to have coloured hair (and i dont mean blondes or browns) at a parent consultation evening one of my daughter's teachers had purple hair![/p][/quote]We weren't told why he was suspended, but when he turned up he took a lot of new staff on, then in about October/November he started giving out redundancy notices & that ended up in the papers & we don't think the council were in the loop about it as that's when he was suddenly put on gardening leave, but don't quote me on that, I don't think the board of governors even know why, just him & the council. He was as bad with the teaching staff as he was with the kids so don't be surprised if some of them some of them start leaving soon. jw9202

7:45pm Fri 11 Jan 13

hubby says...

I went to Varndean Grammer school in the 1970's.
I was given the cane and the strap as well as Heaven knows how many detentions for such heinous crimes as my hair touching my collar,having my top button undone in the middle of summer (under my tie) and coughing in assembly.
It gave me a hatred of authority that I carry with me to this day.
Surprisingly,I became a teacher.I have tried over the years to be the complete opposite of what I encountered in my formative years.
I have never felt or been threatened.I have never been sworn at and I have never given a detention.
Every child is an individual and has an individual story to tell.
Respect them and you will get respect back.
You will never bully a child into submission.Epseciall
y not a teenager.You will just make them angry.
This person will not last long.We haved moved on from the days when children should be seen and not heard.
We do not want to go back to those times!
In the extreme,think about what Jimmy Saville was up to with children back then.
I went to Varndean Grammer school in the 1970's. I was given the cane and the strap as well as Heaven knows how many detentions for such heinous crimes as my hair touching my collar,having my top button undone in the middle of summer (under my tie) and coughing in assembly. It gave me a hatred of authority that I carry with me to this day. Surprisingly,I became a teacher.I have tried over the years to be the complete opposite of what I encountered in my formative years. I have never felt or been threatened.I have never been sworn at and I have never given a detention. Every child is an individual and has an individual story to tell. Respect them and you will get respect back. You will never bully a child into submission.Epseciall y not a teenager.You will just make them angry. This person will not last long.We haved moved on from the days when children should be seen and not heard. We do not want to go back to those times! In the extreme,think about what Jimmy Saville was up to with children back then. hubby

7:48pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Thetruth666 says...

I recon you would like me jw9202!Anyway i respect your view on this but have to respectfully disagree.I wish you and your child well and hope he's getting the support and understanding he deserves.Have a good evening :-)
I recon you would like me jw9202!Anyway i respect your view on this but have to respectfully disagree.I wish you and your child well and hope he's getting the support and understanding he deserves.Have a good evening :-) Thetruth666

7:51pm Fri 11 Jan 13

harveyxo says...

I am a student at PACA.
Yes kids do need to learn to respect people,and do as they are told.
But my personal experinces are I have been removed from a lesson to remove nailvarnish I therefore missed 10-15 mins of my lesson. I have been told if I do not remove a hairband yes a hairband from my wrist I shall face a detention. I have choosen not to eat on some occasions as the eating area is just to full,if your lessons on the other side of the school your lucky if you can get a seat at lunch.
The way the students are spoken to I personally feel is with no respect, don't just asume things about as. You don't know us you don't know what kind of people we are. Creativy is somthing I aspire my job to have when im older. Were individuals yes we are being prepared for the world of work with theese strict uniform policies but don't make us grow up to fast. At this age its the chance to find yourself not have all your individuality crushed out of you. Were kids let us be that for a while cause soon enough we will be adults.
Grades are important not just uniform yes some of the rules need to stay and some have not changed but I feel this article is rather fair on both behalfs. Don't brand us all us lazy and this and that because some us are nice hard working kids who just don't appreciate the way were being spoken to. Yes the rules are good but some are a little extreme.
Focus on what we are learning not what we look like, because at the end of it all thats what really matters.
I am a student at PACA. Yes kids do need to learn to respect people,and do as they are told. But my personal experinces are I have been removed from a lesson to remove nailvarnish I therefore missed 10-15 mins of my lesson. I have been told if I do not remove a hairband yes a hairband from my wrist I shall face a detention. I have choosen not to eat on some occasions as the eating area is just to full,if your lessons on the other side of the school your lucky if you can get a seat at lunch. The way the students are spoken to I personally feel is with no respect, don't just asume things about as. You don't know us you don't know what kind of people we are. Creativy is somthing I aspire my job to have when im older. Were individuals yes we are being prepared for the world of work with theese strict uniform policies but don't make us grow up to fast. At this age its the chance to find yourself not have all your individuality crushed out of you. Were kids let us be that for a while cause soon enough we will be adults. Grades are important not just uniform yes some of the rules need to stay and some have not changed but I feel this article is rather fair on both behalfs. Don't brand us all us lazy and this and that because some us are nice hard working kids who just don't appreciate the way were being spoken to. Yes the rules are good but some are a little extreme. Focus on what we are learning not what we look like, because at the end of it all thats what really matters. harveyxo

7:55pm Fri 11 Jan 13

nocando says...

Fair play Mr Fox, keep up the good work. Judging the comments above it would appear that half the parents of these unruly and unemployable brats could do with your boot up their backsides as well. Never heard anything so pathetic, poor little darlings can't turn up and do as they please? Well that's just the way the world is and the younger they are when they get that drummed into them then the more useful they'll be as adults.
They're lucky to have you Mr Fox but they're too dim to appreciate that.
Fair play Mr Fox, keep up the good work. Judging the comments above it would appear that half the parents of these unruly and unemployable brats could do with your boot up their backsides as well. Never heard anything so pathetic, poor little darlings can't turn up and do as they please? Well that's just the way the world is and the younger they are when they get that drummed into them then the more useful they'll be as adults. They're lucky to have you Mr Fox but they're too dim to appreciate that. nocando

7:56pm Fri 11 Jan 13

bringbackthecane says...

I think it is about time discipline is brought back into schools.
My nephew was bullied relentlessly at this school for most of year 7, let's hope Mr Fox can do some good for the school in the time he is there.
I believe the number of excluded pupils is nearer 60 if you include the last couple of days!
I think it is about time discipline is brought back into schools. My nephew was bullied relentlessly at this school for most of year 7, let's hope Mr Fox can do some good for the school in the time he is there. I believe the number of excluded pupils is nearer 60 if you include the last couple of days! bringbackthecane

7:56pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Roundbill wrote:
Oh come on people, WAKE UP - it's obvious what he's up to. When he was being interviewed by the governors, he guaranteed them he could rescue the school from "needs improvement" status by increasing the GCSE pass-rate by X per cent. Now he's realised he's wa-a-ay short of that target, and so he's hand-picked and excluded anybody he doesn't think will pass their exams. That way they don't show up as "entered and failed", so he can bump up the school's overall pass-rate.
I completely agree.

I would like to say, for all those who have commented on this story and who don’t have children at this school – go away and get a life. You know nothing of what has gone on over this past week by this power hungry Hitler-wannabe.

My daughter is in year 11 at PACA. She is a well behaved, well presented and polite. She has always taken her education seriously, as have I, and is currently on track to obtain mostly As. She is not a delinquent (and neither are the majority of pupils) and I am not a wayward and uneducated parent who refuses to take responsibility.

Whilst I fully support the school uniform policy, I also support education for all and fair and reasonable discipline. Pupils currently taking exams do not need the further stress and disruption to classes and education for petty things such as nail varnish, lipstick, bracelets and not having a top button done up. Fox has actually been tugging at pupils’ shirt necks. Last time I checked, teachers are not allowed to touch pupils, only to restrain them if needed to ensure theirs and others’ safety. Bracelets have been cut off which is criminal damage. Maybe Fox should learn discipline himself by way of the English criminal law system?

Discipline is hugely important but so is respect. Fox needs to learn to lead by example - you will only ever be respected in life if you earn it (and I refuse to call him ‘Mr’ because I have no respect for him nor want any from him). He should take tips from Mr McLaughlin who was well liked and respected by pupils, teachers and parents alike. Thanks to Fox’s attitude and, frankly, unacceptable behaviour, he is truly hated by all.

The rule that all pupils must eat in the inadequate canteen is totally wrong. 900 pupils to 150 seats (if that) within a lunchtime of 40 minutes is ridiculous. Fox is obviously so far up his own ar*e that he has no knowledge of, or the prevalence of, eating disorders. Very caring and compassionate, Fox.

As for Fox being appointed by the governors because they were “struck by the quality of references and by endorsements…” that is absolute rubbish. Fox was appointed because he is chummy with Marie Getheridge, Director of Education at the Aldridge Foundation. She was head of Writhlington School during his post as deputy head. Both Fox and the Aldridge Foundation are well aware of the ‘payment by results’ system which is all they are interested in and here is where I completely agree with the post quoted. Talking of which, the Wiltshire Gazette mentioned a possible misappropriation of funds by Fox during his time at Abbeyfield School but because he obviously signed a Compromise Agreement, nothing can be reported further. No smoke without fire.

Fox is not interested in every individual pupil’s education, only himself and the results he can garner by excluding those who he doesn't think will pass. A truly odious, bullying man who, together with Marie Getheridge, should be sacked as soon as possible.
[quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: Oh come on people, WAKE UP - it's obvious what he's up to. When he was being interviewed by the governors, he guaranteed them he could rescue the school from "needs improvement" status by increasing the GCSE pass-rate by X per cent. Now he's realised he's wa-a-ay short of that target, and so he's hand-picked and excluded anybody he doesn't think will pass their exams. That way they don't show up as "entered and failed", so he can bump up the school's overall pass-rate.[/p][/quote]I completely agree. I would like to say, for all those who have commented on this story and who don’t have children at this school – go away and get a life. You know nothing of what has gone on over this past week by this power hungry Hitler-wannabe. My daughter is in year 11 at PACA. She is a well behaved, well presented and polite. She has always taken her education seriously, as have I, and is currently on track to obtain mostly As. She is not a delinquent (and neither are the majority of pupils) and I am not a wayward and uneducated parent who refuses to take responsibility. Whilst I fully support the school uniform policy, I also support education for all and fair and reasonable discipline. Pupils currently taking exams do not need the further stress and disruption to classes and education for petty things such as nail varnish, lipstick, bracelets and not having a top button done up. Fox has actually been tugging at pupils’ shirt necks. Last time I checked, teachers are not allowed to touch pupils, only to restrain them if needed to ensure theirs and others’ safety. Bracelets have been cut off which is criminal damage. Maybe Fox should learn discipline himself by way of the English criminal law system? Discipline is hugely important but so is respect. Fox needs to learn to lead by example - you will only ever be respected in life if you earn it (and I refuse to call him ‘Mr’ because I have no respect for him nor want any from him). He should take tips from Mr McLaughlin who was well liked and respected by pupils, teachers and parents alike. Thanks to Fox’s attitude and, frankly, unacceptable behaviour, he is truly hated by all. The rule that all pupils must eat in the inadequate canteen is totally wrong. 900 pupils to 150 seats (if that) within a lunchtime of 40 minutes is ridiculous. Fox is obviously so far up his own ar*e that he has no knowledge of, or the prevalence of, eating disorders. Very caring and compassionate, Fox. As for Fox being appointed by the governors because they were “struck by the quality of [his] references and by endorsements…” that is absolute rubbish. Fox was appointed because he is chummy with Marie Getheridge, Director of Education at the Aldridge Foundation. She was head of Writhlington School during his post as deputy head. Both Fox and the Aldridge Foundation are well aware of the ‘payment by results’ system which is all they are interested in and here is where I completely agree with the post quoted. Talking of which, the Wiltshire Gazette mentioned a possible misappropriation of funds by Fox during his time at Abbeyfield School but because he obviously signed a Compromise Agreement, nothing can be reported further. No smoke without fire. Fox is not interested in every individual pupil’s education, only himself and the results he can garner by excluding those who he doesn't think will pass. A truly odious, bullying man who, together with Marie Getheridge, should be sacked as soon as possible. Legal1974

8:05pm Fri 11 Jan 13

KIS says says...

Thetruth666 wrote:
I am aware that you said your son has Aspergers (not Asperges) as per your comment.The only ignorance here is you assuming i hadn't read that.To assume your son has no responsibility for his behaviour due to this is wrong on every level.I speak from the perspective of someone who lives around the condition on a daily basis before you through your toys out the pram.To say " fortunately for him I never came face to face with him as I work away" tells me all i need to know about you.
Pot kettle black - throw or through! Priceless
[quote][p][bold]Thetruth666[/bold] wrote: I am aware that you said your son has Aspergers (not Asperges) as per your comment.The only ignorance here is you assuming i hadn't read that.To assume your son has no responsibility for his behaviour due to this is wrong on every level.I speak from the perspective of someone who lives around the condition on a daily basis before you through your toys out the pram.To say " fortunately for him I never came face to face with him as I work away" tells me all i need to know about you.[/p][/quote]Pot kettle black - throw or through! Priceless KIS says

8:09pm Fri 11 Jan 13

wexler53 says...

The attitudes displayed on here by parents, students and staff explain everything about why this is such an awful school.

You get what you ask for in this life, and the above seems to suggest everyone is aiming very low.
The attitudes displayed on here by parents, students and staff explain everything about why this is such an awful school. You get what you ask for in this life, and the above seems to suggest everyone is aiming very low. wexler53

8:09pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Thetruth666 says...

Priceless indeed.I left that one there for you so you can point it out and get on with your evening.Job done.Run along now...
Priceless indeed.I left that one there for you so you can point it out and get on with your evening.Job done.Run along now... Thetruth666

8:09pm Fri 11 Jan 13

harveyxo says...

Don't brand us all as one.
I go into school well presented, with all stationary needed and I obtain good grades for the present moment.
Yet I may be in detention for A HAIRBAND on my wrist?
Discipline is needed but not to this extent.
One of PACA's entrepreneurial attributes is ' Be Prepared' I merely had the hair band for athletic purposes and it was almost confiscated from me.

If you do not have a child who attends the school or are not a child at the school, think do you really know whats going on? Because its not really any of your buissness.
Don't brand us all as one. I go into school well presented, with all stationary needed and I obtain good grades for the present moment. Yet I may be in detention for A HAIRBAND on my wrist? Discipline is needed but not to this extent. One of PACA's entrepreneurial attributes is ' Be Prepared' I merely had the hair band for athletic purposes and it was almost confiscated from me. If you do not have a child who attends the school or are not a child at the school, think do you really know whats going on? Because its not really any of your buissness. harveyxo

8:13pm Fri 11 Jan 13

harris11 says...

The comments on here are really quite depressing. This article is very sloppy journalism indeed. But it is only what we have come to expect of the Argus. Next week it will be some other piece of sensationalist drivel.
I went to an open evening last night and met Mr Fox. He is quite clearly a genuine man and knows what he is talking about. Some of the comments on here are quite pitiful. I want someone who is going to push my son to be the very best he can be and it that means strict adherence to school policies then I'm all for it. I'm fully supportive, otherwise what happens when he gets a job? Get real folks- we live in the real world. Exam results matter. Attitude matters. Appearance matters. Respect for yourselves and others. If students aren't following PACA policies there needs to be a consequence or what is the point of having the policy in the first place. If my son came home moaning that he had been told off for breaking the rules...my response would be- good! I couldn't care less if that ruffles a few staff feathers. If they don't like it move on. Good on you Mr Fox, it's about time that school was whipped into shape. I felt compelled to come on here and support you. The negative comments are misguided...and there are quite clearly a few staff members pretending to be students or whatever. Get a life!
The comments on here are really quite depressing. This article is very sloppy journalism indeed. But it is only what we have come to expect of the Argus. Next week it will be some other piece of sensationalist drivel. I went to an open evening last night and met Mr Fox. He is quite clearly a genuine man and knows what he is talking about. Some of the comments on here are quite pitiful. I want someone who is going to push my son to be the very best he can be and it that means strict adherence to school policies then I'm all for it. I'm fully supportive, otherwise what happens when he gets a job? Get real folks- we live in the real world. Exam results matter. Attitude matters. Appearance matters. Respect for yourselves and others. If students aren't following PACA policies there needs to be a consequence or what is the point of having the policy in the first place. If my son came home moaning that he had been told off for breaking the rules...my response would be- good! I couldn't care less if that ruffles a few staff feathers. If they don't like it move on. Good on you Mr Fox, it's about time that school was whipped into shape. I felt compelled to come on here and support you. The negative comments are misguided...and there are quite clearly a few staff members pretending to be students or whatever. Get a life! harris11

8:17pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Thetruth666 says...

^ Totally agree.Spot on.
^ Totally agree.Spot on. Thetruth666

8:20pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Manarlie says...

As a teacher myself, and an aunt of a current pupil and parent of two ex pupils, I feel I can comment with some validity.
This school has been in need of a shakeup for quite some time. I also live in close proximity of the school and and so see pupils come and go frequently. I am confident that the negative behaviour from some pupils is in the large minority. Discipline, or rather behaviour management, is quite a skill. It comes naturally to very few and requires a great deal of training, patience and understanding whilst being carefully monitored. My feeling is that this is what is lacking. Good role models are essential both for the pupils and for the staff. A balance must be struck between this and clear, consistent sanctions is vital. In my opinion it will be shocking and drastic to begin but will soon be followed. However, getting the balance wrong only leads to loss of respect. Careful analysis is needed to see if this is what has happened!.
As a teacher myself, and an aunt of a current pupil and parent of two ex pupils, I feel I can comment with some validity. This school has been in need of a shakeup for quite some time. I also live in close proximity of the school and and so see pupils come and go frequently. I am confident that the negative behaviour from some pupils is in the large minority. Discipline, or rather behaviour management, is quite a skill. It comes naturally to very few and requires a great deal of training, patience and understanding whilst being carefully monitored. My feeling is that this is what is lacking. Good role models are essential both for the pupils and for the staff. A balance must be struck between this and clear, consistent sanctions is vital. In my opinion it will be shocking and drastic to begin but will soon be followed. However, getting the balance wrong only leads to loss of respect. Careful analysis is needed to see if this is what has happened!. Manarlie

8:22pm Fri 11 Jan 13

nocando says...

1o1o1o1 wrote:
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.
Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days.
This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is.
I blame the parents.
[quote][p][bold]1o1o1o1[/bold] wrote: well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.[/p][/quote]Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days. This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is. I blame the parents. nocando

8:23pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Fudge001 says...

harris11 wrote:
The comments on here are really quite depressing. This article is very sloppy journalism indeed. But it is only what we have come to expect of the Argus. Next week it will be some other piece of sensationalist drivel.
I went to an open evening last night and met Mr Fox. He is quite clearly a genuine man and knows what he is talking about. Some of the comments on here are quite pitiful. I want someone who is going to push my son to be the very best he can be and it that means strict adherence to school policies then I'm all for it. I'm fully supportive, otherwise what happens when he gets a job? Get real folks- we live in the real world. Exam results matter. Attitude matters. Appearance matters. Respect for yourselves and others. If students aren't following PACA policies there needs to be a consequence or what is the point of having the policy in the first place. If my son came home moaning that he had been told off for breaking the rules...my response would be- good! I couldn't care less if that ruffles a few staff feathers. If they don't like it move on. Good on you Mr Fox, it's about time that school was whipped into shape. I felt compelled to come on here and support you. The negative comments are misguided...and there are quite clearly a few staff members pretending to be students or whatever. Get a life!
First impressions can be deceiving I'm glad you had a good experience with Mr Fox at the open evening, but do you think all the paca parents posting on here have badly behaved and delinquent children? My children go to paca and are doing very well I also make sure they are respectful and adhere to the rules, however I take exception when the rules are changed without prior notice and my children dont get the opportunity to eat as the oasis is too small to fit all the students in!

I hope your son does well and good luck, I believe Mr Fox is a sheep in wolves clothing or should I say Fox's clothing.
[quote][p][bold]harris11[/bold] wrote: The comments on here are really quite depressing. This article is very sloppy journalism indeed. But it is only what we have come to expect of the Argus. Next week it will be some other piece of sensationalist drivel. I went to an open evening last night and met Mr Fox. He is quite clearly a genuine man and knows what he is talking about. Some of the comments on here are quite pitiful. I want someone who is going to push my son to be the very best he can be and it that means strict adherence to school policies then I'm all for it. I'm fully supportive, otherwise what happens when he gets a job? Get real folks- we live in the real world. Exam results matter. Attitude matters. Appearance matters. Respect for yourselves and others. If students aren't following PACA policies there needs to be a consequence or what is the point of having the policy in the first place. If my son came home moaning that he had been told off for breaking the rules...my response would be- good! I couldn't care less if that ruffles a few staff feathers. If they don't like it move on. Good on you Mr Fox, it's about time that school was whipped into shape. I felt compelled to come on here and support you. The negative comments are misguided...and there are quite clearly a few staff members pretending to be students or whatever. Get a life![/p][/quote]First impressions can be deceiving I'm glad you had a good experience with Mr Fox at the open evening, but do you think all the paca parents posting on here have badly behaved and delinquent children? My children go to paca and are doing very well I also make sure they are respectful and adhere to the rules, however I take exception when the rules are changed without prior notice and my children dont get the opportunity to eat as the oasis is too small to fit all the students in! I hope your son does well and good luck, I believe Mr Fox is a sheep in wolves clothing or should I say Fox's clothing. Fudge001

8:26pm Fri 11 Jan 13

jackdaniels46 says...

Well said legal 74 - I also have a daughter in year 11 who is hard working smart and polite - under the lovely Mr McLoughlin who DID raise the standards at the school and was always approachable and fair, my daughter's grades have continued to increase - gaining As in most subjects and is now working towards A*s. I agree that discipline is required however the way the uniform problem has been handled is totally unnecessary. Who cares whether their buttons are done up, or they have a bracelet on, all we as parents want is for our children to be in a happy learning environment so they can achieve the best results they can. I have met and spent time with many of my daughter's friends and they are far from the delinquents the comments above are making them out to be. We are talking a small minority who have issues with authority who are unlikely to have any more respect for someone treating them the way Mr Fox has. I think the Governors need to re-think this one and hopefully not appoint Mr Fox as a permanent headmaster. His track record having researched on the internet does not bode well - we have heard nothing about his teaching methods or how is going to improve the school just the uniform! The new rules for the eating area would seem to be totally unworkable, the children are not happy with the changes and I as a responsible parent do not want my daughter coming home stressing about all the new rules when she is studying for her GCSE's. I understand that some students had been exluded on the run up to the English exam on thursday so missed the opportunity of having vital schooling beforehand - how on earth is that supposed to help raise the grades? A quote from my daughter " Mr McLoughlin always taught us to be who we are, don't be afraid to stand up for what you believe in and Mr Fox is taking away our individuality" - that just about sums it up really - what a shame that we let such a lovely headmaster go to be replaced by an ex-army/business man. My daughter was very sad that Mr McLoughlin left - she put in his leaving card "thank you for all you have done for us and the community, you have made this school so much better and we could never have done it without you" - Governors take note.
Well said legal 74 - I also have a daughter in year 11 who is hard working smart and polite - under the lovely Mr McLoughlin who DID raise the standards at the school and was always approachable and fair, my daughter's grades have continued to increase - gaining As in most subjects and is now working towards A*s. I agree that discipline is required however the way the uniform problem has been handled is totally unnecessary. Who cares whether their buttons are done up, or they have a bracelet on, all we as parents want is for our children to be in a happy learning environment so they can achieve the best results they can. I have met and spent time with many of my daughter's friends and they are far from the delinquents the comments above are making them out to be. We are talking a small minority who have issues with authority who are unlikely to have any more respect for someone treating them the way Mr Fox has. I think the Governors need to re-think this one and hopefully not appoint Mr Fox as a permanent headmaster. His track record having researched on the internet does not bode well - we have heard nothing about his teaching methods or how is going to improve the school just the uniform! The new rules for the eating area would seem to be totally unworkable, the children are not happy with the changes and I as a responsible parent do not want my daughter coming home stressing about all the new rules when she is studying for her GCSE's. I understand that some students had been exluded on the run up to the English exam on thursday so missed the opportunity of having vital schooling beforehand - how on earth is that supposed to help raise the grades? A quote from my daughter " Mr McLoughlin always taught us to be who we are, don't be afraid to stand up for what you believe in and Mr Fox is taking away our individuality" - that just about sums it up really - what a shame that we let such a lovely headmaster go to be replaced by an ex-army/business man. My daughter was very sad that Mr McLoughlin left - she put in his leaving card "thank you for all you have done for us and the community, you have made this school so much better and we could never have done it without you" - Governors take note. jackdaniels46

8:32pm Fri 11 Jan 13

harveyxo says...

Just out of curiosity who is pretending to be a member of staff as accusing someone falsely is rather unhelpful to the matter.
Just out of curiosity who is pretending to be a member of staff as accusing someone falsely is rather unhelpful to the matter. harveyxo

8:50pm Fri 11 Jan 13

SimonPetrikov457 says...

Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too. SimonPetrikov457

9:06pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.
is that your real name?
[quote][p][bold]SimonPetrikov457[/bold] wrote: Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.[/p][/quote]is that your real name? Legal1974

9:08pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Levent says...

fascinator wrote:
Sounds like the guy is missing his time in the army.

I'm just waiting for the 'bring back the cane' brigade.

Time will tell though - it will be interesting to see if the school can better exam results, or if the headmaster has another term of gardening leave.

Surley Honor W-F is either the chair of guvs or the chairwoman of guvs.
Yes, God forbid we should have some control in schools, just when you free thinkers have got the UK as lawless as you always wanted. All your hard work being undone by common sense and something as nasty as respect and discipline must be a bitter pill for you to swallow!
[quote][p][bold]fascinator[/bold] wrote: Sounds like the guy is missing his time in the army. I'm just waiting for the 'bring back the cane' brigade. Time will tell though - it will be interesting to see if the school can better exam results, or if the headmaster has another term of gardening leave. Surley Honor W-F is either the chair of guvs or the chairwoman of guvs.[/p][/quote]Yes, God forbid we should have some control in schools, just when you free thinkers have got the UK as lawless as you always wanted. All your hard work being undone by common sense and something as nasty as respect and discipline must be a bitter pill for you to swallow! Levent

9:08pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly.

From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.
My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame. Somethingsarejustwrong

9:08pm Fri 11 Jan 13

jane2912 says...

My daughter goes to PACA and I am pleased with the new headmaster and give him my full support.I think he has a hard job to do as some of the children have done what they want for too long.It is a shame all the kids must pay for the few but it must be done to get the school back on track and give those who wish to learn a chance to do so.
My daughter goes to PACA and I am pleased with the new headmaster and give him my full support.I think he has a hard job to do as some of the children have done what they want for too long.It is a shame all the kids must pay for the few but it must be done to get the school back on track and give those who wish to learn a chance to do so. jane2912

9:15pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Fight_Back says...

Lets not fool ourselves here - our council are working hand in hand with Rod Aldridge who built one of the worst companies in the country for treatment of staff. It's horrendous that the council can hand over schools to such a man who then goes and sacks very good head teachers. Mr Fox has a questionable history but no doubt he's working hand in hand with Mr Aldridge to make the next million. These academies are nothing to do with education of our children and everything to do with lining the pockets of businessmen such as Aldridge and Fox as well as local politicians who no doubt have accepted some sort of back hander.
Lets not fool ourselves here - our council are working hand in hand with Rod Aldridge who built one of the worst companies in the country for treatment of staff. It's horrendous that the council can hand over schools to such a man who then goes and sacks very good head teachers. Mr Fox has a questionable history but no doubt he's working hand in hand with Mr Aldridge to make the next million. These academies are nothing to do with education of our children and everything to do with lining the pockets of businessmen such as Aldridge and Fox as well as local politicians who no doubt have accepted some sort of back hander. Fight_Back

9:18pm Fri 11 Jan 13

jackdaniels46 says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly.

From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.
Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.[/p][/quote]Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ? jackdaniels46

9:22pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Poccypoc says...

Well done, headteacher! I suppose the parents will want him before a tribunal! Get lost... Hope the teacher brings back the cane. That's what some of this hoodlums need. A good thrashing.
Well done, headteacher! I suppose the parents will want him before a tribunal! Get lost... Hope the teacher brings back the cane. That's what some of this hoodlums need. A good thrashing. Poccypoc

9:26pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Fudge001 says...

jackdaniels46 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly.

From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.
Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?
I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong"
You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.
[quote][p][bold]jackdaniels46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.[/p][/quote]Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?[/p][/quote]I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush. Fudge001

9:31pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Morpheus says...

I really cannot see the point of suspending children from school. It is where they must be and they probably enjoy being suspended. Detention is the only answer.
I really cannot see the point of suspending children from school. It is where they must be and they probably enjoy being suspended. Detention is the only answer. Morpheus

9:32pm Fri 11 Jan 13

hubby says...

Bad children are not born,they are created.
Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.
Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this. hubby

9:33pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Algeria Touchshriek says...

I think the new David Bowie single is actually quite good.
I think the new David Bowie single is actually quite good. Algeria Touchshriek

9:37pm Fri 11 Jan 13

SimonPetrikov457 says...

Legal1974 wrote:
SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.
is that your real name?
No, but did you get the reference?
[quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimonPetrikov457[/bold] wrote: Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.[/p][/quote]is that your real name?[/p][/quote]No, but did you get the reference? SimonPetrikov457

9:39pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Fudge001 wrote:
jackdaniels46 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro


ng
wrote:
My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly.

From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.
Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?
I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong"
You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.
I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct.

I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon.

With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.
[quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackdaniels46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.[/p][/quote]Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?[/p][/quote]I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'. Somethingsarejustwrong

9:41pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

hubby wrote:
Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.
The majority of the pupils we are talking about are not bad children, nor are the parents or teachers. This is about unreasonable disciplinary measures interrupting the pupils' education during important GCSE studies and exams by a bully who has gone about this in an entirely incorrect manner and is not leading by example. You have obviously not been keeping up with the comments on here. Your comment is completely irrelevant to the issues so I suggest you just keep your pointless opinions to yourself.
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.[/p][/quote]The majority of the pupils we are talking about are not bad children, nor are the parents or teachers. This is about unreasonable disciplinary measures interrupting the pupils' education during important GCSE studies and exams by a bully who has gone about this in an entirely incorrect manner and is not leading by example. You have obviously not been keeping up with the comments on here. Your comment is completely irrelevant to the issues so I suggest you just keep your pointless opinions to yourself. Legal1974

9:41pm Fri 11 Jan 13

MIstified says...

I am flabbergasted at some of the comments that have appeared, especially by people whose children don't go to this school. We are not upset about the rules that are in place and majority of us parents agree with them and teach our children to be responsible in all areas. However when children who have never been in trouble and knuckle down and get on with their work are being bunched with a small minority of trouble makers it is hard to take. The most interesting word in the article was the use of 'emphatic' by the chair of governors, I personally feel you could substitute any of the following to get a truer picture of what is occurring: harsh, unnecessary, inappropriate. With out knowing the full grounds of his suspension at his previous post of course I am
concerned. I like to know who is in charge of my children all day. This school has made fantastic improvements over the last few years and the parents were all very happy with work of the previous head and fully supportive of all he was doing. Now it is being implied that the school was fulling apart and that is completely wrong. There are many outstanding teachers at PACA and my biggest fear is that they will now all leave and where does that leave our children. Discipline them by all means but for actually doing something wrong that has a direct impact on theirs and their peers learning, not just to make yourself look big. For the people that said we should have contacted the school to complain, some of us did try and Mr Fox was conveniently always in meetings or unavailable. The few who did speak to him were told, If they didn't like his rules take their children out of the school. Mr Fox if you what the parents support in these areas do the decent thing and hold a parents forum where we can tell you directly of our concerns.
I am flabbergasted at some of the comments that have appeared, especially by people whose children don't go to this school. We are not upset about the rules that are in place and majority of us parents agree with them and teach our children to be responsible in all areas. However when children who have never been in trouble and knuckle down and get on with their work are being bunched with a small minority of trouble makers it is hard to take. The most interesting word in the article was the use of 'emphatic' by the chair of governors, I personally feel you could substitute any of the following to get a truer picture of what is occurring: harsh, unnecessary, inappropriate. With out knowing the full grounds of his suspension at his previous post of course I am concerned. I like to know who is in charge of my children all day. This school has made fantastic improvements over the last few years and the parents were all very happy with work of the previous head and fully supportive of all he was doing. Now it is being implied that the school was fulling apart and that is completely wrong. There are many outstanding teachers at PACA and my biggest fear is that they will now all leave and where does that leave our children. Discipline them by all means but for actually doing something wrong that has a direct impact on theirs and their peers learning, not just to make yourself look big. For the people that said we should have contacted the school to complain, some of us did try and Mr Fox was conveniently always in meetings or unavailable. The few who did speak to him were told, If they didn't like his rules take their children out of the school. Mr Fox if you what the parents support in these areas do the decent thing and hold a parents forum where we can tell you directly of our concerns. MIstified

9:45pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Fudge001 wrote:
jackdaniels46 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.
Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?
I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.
I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.
With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackdaniels46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.[/p][/quote]Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?[/p][/quote]I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.[/p][/quote]With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation Legal1974

9:47pm Fri 11 Jan 13

martyt says...

wexler53 wrote:
Mr Fox’s disciplinarian approach has led to several parents and teachers contacting The Argus with concerns over the tough measures.

One man who said he was a teacher at the academy stated: “The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick.

Here's one teacher who should be dismissed. If you are not happy, there are systems in place for dealing with it, and these don't include running to the local paper.

His team - all staff - should get behind him, be professional and get on with making the school better for everyone.

If staff don't like it, then quit and try to find an easy spot somewhere else.

Children deserve the best education, which deserves good professional staff. Stop moaning and work together to do what you are employed for - teach.
may be the staff members have been told to shape up or ship out and they know the dead weigh in there ranks are up for the chop next ,if you dont like the rules then get another job
[quote][p][bold]wexler53[/bold] wrote: Mr Fox’s disciplinarian approach has led to several parents and teachers contacting The Argus with concerns over the tough measures. One man who said he was a teacher at the academy stated: “The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick. Here's one teacher who should be dismissed. If you are not happy, there are systems in place for dealing with it, and these don't include running to the local paper. His team - all staff - should get behind him, be professional and get on with making the school better for everyone. If staff don't like it, then quit and try to find an easy spot somewhere else. Children deserve the best education, which deserves good professional staff. Stop moaning and work together to do what you are employed for - teach.[/p][/quote]may be the staff members have been told to shape up or ship out and they know the dead weigh in there ranks are up for the chop next ,if you dont like the rules then get another job martyt

9:51pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Legal1974 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
Fudge001 wrote:
jackdaniels46 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.
Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?
I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.
I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.
With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation
I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment and whilst I appreciate you are entitled to an opinion, do believe that sometimes people caught up with the emotion, do miss the bigger picture.

Accordingly, I reject your views.
[quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackdaniels46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.[/p][/quote]Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?[/p][/quote]I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.[/p][/quote]With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation[/p][/quote]I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment and whilst I appreciate you are entitled to an opinion, do believe that sometimes people caught up with the emotion, do miss the bigger picture. Accordingly, I reject your views. Somethingsarejustwrong

9:55pm Fri 11 Jan 13

HJarrs says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Lets not fool ourselves here - our council are working hand in hand with Rod Aldridge who built one of the worst companies in the country for treatment of staff. It's horrendous that the council can hand over schools to such a man who then goes and sacks very good head teachers. Mr Fox has a questionable history but no doubt he's working hand in hand with Mr Aldridge to make the next million. These academies are nothing to do with education of our children and everything to do with lining the pockets of businessmen such as Aldridge and Fox as well as local politicians who no doubt have accepted some sort of back hander.
Point of correction, I think you will find that only Labour and Conservative politicians locally supported Academies. I very much doubt the current administration want to see an extension of this policy, which is a prelude to further education privitisation.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Lets not fool ourselves here - our council are working hand in hand with Rod Aldridge who built one of the worst companies in the country for treatment of staff. It's horrendous that the council can hand over schools to such a man who then goes and sacks very good head teachers. Mr Fox has a questionable history but no doubt he's working hand in hand with Mr Aldridge to make the next million. These academies are nothing to do with education of our children and everything to do with lining the pockets of businessmen such as Aldridge and Fox as well as local politicians who no doubt have accepted some sort of back hander.[/p][/quote]Point of correction, I think you will find that only Labour and Conservative politicians locally supported Academies. I very much doubt the current administration want to see an extension of this policy, which is a prelude to further education privitisation. HJarrs

9:56pm Fri 11 Jan 13

MIstified says...

teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.
My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox
[quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.[/p][/quote]My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox MIstified

10:02pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Fudge001 says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Fudge001 wrote:
jackdaniels46 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro



ng
wrote:
My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly.

From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.
Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?
I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong"
You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.
I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct.

I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon.

With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.
I wonder how you have enough knowledge to make this statement and believe it to be accurate.

I am a senior manager in a blue chip company n often have to deal with disciplinaries, my point here is that the badly behaved children are in the minority and are probably the quota every school has because they have previously been excluded from other schools.

I take offence to the intimation that I am on the benefits gravy train and would ask do you think its fair for people with medical conditions to be humiliated because they cannot do up their top button, be excluded because they have a hole in their trousers and are too poor to replace them or not eat because they cannot get a seat in an overcrowded canteen!!
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackdaniels46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.[/p][/quote]Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?[/p][/quote]I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.[/p][/quote]I wonder how you have enough knowledge to make this statement and believe it to be accurate. I am a senior manager in a blue chip company n often have to deal with disciplinaries, my point here is that the badly behaved children are in the minority and are probably the quota every school has because they have previously been excluded from other schools. I take offence to the intimation that I am on the benefits gravy train and would ask do you think its fair for people with medical conditions to be humiliated because they cannot do up their top button, be excluded because they have a hole in their trousers and are too poor to replace them or not eat because they cannot get a seat in an overcrowded canteen!! Fudge001

10:10pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Fudge001 says...

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.
is that your real name?
No, but did you get the reference?
Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection!
[quote][p][bold]SimonPetrikov457[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimonPetrikov457[/bold] wrote: Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.[/p][/quote]is that your real name?[/p][/quote]No, but did you get the reference?[/p][/quote]Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection! Fudge001

10:19pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Fudge001 wrote:
jackdaniels46 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.
Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?
I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.
I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.
With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation
I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment and whilst I appreciate you are entitled to an opinion, do believe that sometimes people caught up with the emotion, do miss the bigger picture. Accordingly, I reject your views.
Reading back at all your comments, I think it's pretty obvious you are a governor so obviously your views are biased and you just want to line your pockets a bit more. Accordingly, I reject your views
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackdaniels46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.[/p][/quote]Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?[/p][/quote]I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.[/p][/quote]With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation[/p][/quote]I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment and whilst I appreciate you are entitled to an opinion, do believe that sometimes people caught up with the emotion, do miss the bigger picture. Accordingly, I reject your views.[/p][/quote]Reading back at all your comments, I think it's pretty obvious you are a governor so obviously your views are biased and you just want to line your pockets a bit more. Accordingly, I reject your views Legal1974

10:20pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Dirk Von Roden says...

a teacher is there to teach ! not run a military academy! having said that Kids today need discipline ! but Mr Fox does have to remember these are kids ! School is supposed to be a place of learning and of enjoying mixing with your peers and showing individuality! It is where a persons uniqueness forms its what makes us individual not a bunch of Drones as Mr Fox seems to be trying to do Or should I even say clones??
a teacher is there to teach ! not run a military academy! having said that Kids today need discipline ! but Mr Fox does have to remember these are kids ! School is supposed to be a place of learning and of enjoying mixing with your peers and showing individuality! It is where a persons uniqueness forms its what makes us individual not a bunch of Drones as Mr Fox seems to be trying to do Or should I even say clones?? Dirk Von Roden

10:24pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Legal1974 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Fudge001 wrote:
jackdaniels46 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.
Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?
I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.
I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.
With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation
I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment and whilst I appreciate you are entitled to an opinion, do believe that sometimes people caught up with the emotion, do miss the bigger picture. Accordingly, I reject your views.
Reading back at all your comments, I think it's pretty obvious you are a governor so obviously your views are biased and you just want to line your pockets a bit more. Accordingly, I reject your views
I should have said "governor or Rod Aldridge"
[quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackdaniels46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.[/p][/quote]Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?[/p][/quote]I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.[/p][/quote]With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation[/p][/quote]I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment and whilst I appreciate you are entitled to an opinion, do believe that sometimes people caught up with the emotion, do miss the bigger picture. Accordingly, I reject your views.[/p][/quote]Reading back at all your comments, I think it's pretty obvious you are a governor so obviously your views are biased and you just want to line your pockets a bit more. Accordingly, I reject your views[/p][/quote]I should have said "governor or Rod Aldridge" Legal1974

10:29pm Fri 11 Jan 13

bikerjimbo says...

It seems to me that the parents need to get behind the head and the governors to ensure their children achieve the standards that the head requires. I am quessing that the negative comments are from people whose standards fall below that of the head so perhaps they should also heed his approach themselves. If the students are told to alter their dress or avoid make-up etc. then this should be done and not argued about. The interesting thing will be if the school improves both on Ofsted inspections and exam results. Mr Fox please do not adopt a softer approach until you see an improvment within your academy.
It seems to me that the parents need to get behind the head and the governors to ensure their children achieve the standards that the head requires. I am quessing that the negative comments are from people whose standards fall below that of the head so perhaps they should also heed his approach themselves. If the students are told to alter their dress or avoid make-up etc. then this should be done and not argued about. The interesting thing will be if the school improves both on Ofsted inspections and exam results. Mr Fox please do not adopt a softer approach until you see an improvment within your academy. bikerjimbo

10:33pm Fri 11 Jan 13

cobby67 says...

I am all for rules and disipline, but this new head does seem to be taking things to extreme. He needs to also remember that not all pupils are the same, and some will react badly to some of these issues. My daughter suffers with mental health issues and bullying tactics would just knock her straight back! I am not talking about blatent disrespect or rudeness as I myself consider myself to be a fairly strict parent.
I am all for rules and disipline, but this new head does seem to be taking things to extreme. He needs to also remember that not all pupils are the same, and some will react badly to some of these issues. My daughter suffers with mental health issues and bullying tactics would just knock her straight back! I am not talking about blatent disrespect or rudeness as I myself consider myself to be a fairly strict parent. cobby67

10:36pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Fudge001 says...

I was actually inspired by Rod Aldridge's address to the children at an awards ceremony at the school, talking about how his father had inspired him when he was made redundant and then formed his own company which inspired him to succeed.

Never once in that address did he refer to nazi style management or the suffocation of individuality I am really disappointed with the recent appointment, my children are good students and do not need to dread going to school in case a new rule has been introduced without them knowing!

I didn't want PCC (PACA) in the first place but BCC gave me no choice because of the catchment area.

PACA show some common sense in your decisions please and some respect not all children are bad!
I was actually inspired by Rod Aldridge's address to the children at an awards ceremony at the school, talking about how his father had inspired him when he was made redundant and then formed his own company which inspired him to succeed. Never once in that address did he refer to nazi style management or the suffocation of individuality I am really disappointed with the recent appointment, my children are good students and do not need to dread going to school in case a new rule has been introduced without them knowing! I didn't want PCC (PACA) in the first place but BCC gave me no choice because of the catchment area. PACA show some common sense in your decisions please and some respect not all children are bad! Fudge001

10:36pm Fri 11 Jan 13

matlock says...

I used to visit most of the schools in Sussex as part of my work, and I have always maintained that PCC was one of the most vile institutions I have ever been in. The behaviour of the kids was verging on anarchistic, and all staff had lost control. I remember waiting outside a classroom, listening to the teacher screaming over and over again for the kids to shut up, but he was fighting against a classroom full of kids retaliating by shouting and swearing at him. It transpired that it was the deputy head in that room. That cemented my view that the only solution was to close the school.

I commend the management style that Mr Fox has adopted. In this instance it is entirely necessary and is precisely what the kids, staff and parents need even if they don't yet realise it.
I used to visit most of the schools in Sussex as part of my work, and I have always maintained that PCC was one of the most vile institutions I have ever been in. The behaviour of the kids was verging on anarchistic, and all staff had lost control. I remember waiting outside a classroom, listening to the teacher screaming over and over again for the kids to shut up, but he was fighting against a classroom full of kids retaliating by shouting and swearing at him. It transpired that it was the deputy head in that room. That cemented my view that the only solution was to close the school. I commend the management style that Mr Fox has adopted. In this instance it is entirely necessary and is precisely what the kids, staff and parents need even if they don't yet realise it. matlock

10:46pm Fri 11 Jan 13

S18..... says...

darkasnight1 wrote:
If the skirts are too short then its the schools fault as we have to buy the uniform from PACA,and just for the record my child leaves the house smart at all times "No flesh on show,No make up,and a very understated hairstyle" she was still stopped on the gate and accused of having false nails."NO" just clean and nicely shaped,and accused of having extreme hair,a eyebrow length straight fringe,Extreme is it ?? Well that must make me a social outcast !!!! This is just a ordinary secondary school and most of the children are being stopped even ones with a hole in their tights or trousers,we cannot afford the school uniform riddiculous prices to replace as often as liked as ALL uniform is bought through PACA...
It is a well known fact that some of the girls roll their skirts from the waist to make the skirt shorter. If this is not the case and the skirt is too short, then maybe a longer one should he been purchased in the begining as you can buy them in different lengths.
[quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: If the skirts are too short then its the schools fault as we have to buy the uniform from PACA,and just for the record my child leaves the house smart at all times "No flesh on show,No make up,and a very understated hairstyle" she was still stopped on the gate and accused of having false nails."NO" just clean and nicely shaped,and accused of having extreme hair,a eyebrow length straight fringe,Extreme is it ?? Well that must make me a social outcast !!!! This is just a ordinary secondary school and most of the children are being stopped even ones with a hole in their tights or trousers,we cannot afford the school uniform riddiculous prices to replace as often as liked as ALL uniform is bought through PACA...[/p][/quote]It is a well known fact that some of the girls roll their skirts from the waist to make the skirt shorter. If this is not the case and the skirt is too short, then maybe a longer one should he been purchased in the begining as you can buy them in different lengths. S18.....

10:47pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Legal1974 wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Fudge001 wrote:
jackdaniels46 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.
Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?
I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.
I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.
With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation
I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment and whilst I appreciate you are entitled to an opinion, do believe that sometimes people caught up with the emotion, do miss the bigger picture. Accordingly, I reject your views.
Reading back at all your comments, I think it's pretty obvious you are a governor so obviously your views are biased and you just want to line your pockets a bit more. Accordingly, I reject your views
I should have said "governor or Rod Aldridge"
Good to see that Rod has finally kept his vile and abusive comments to himself. He should be ashamed of himself and the way he has spoken about children (and the parents of those children) that attend the school he purports to love so much. Money, money, money is all he's interested in. Point proven
[quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackdaniels46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.[/p][/quote]Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?[/p][/quote]I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.[/p][/quote]With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation[/p][/quote]I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment and whilst I appreciate you are entitled to an opinion, do believe that sometimes people caught up with the emotion, do miss the bigger picture. Accordingly, I reject your views.[/p][/quote]Reading back at all your comments, I think it's pretty obvious you are a governor so obviously your views are biased and you just want to line your pockets a bit more. Accordingly, I reject your views[/p][/quote]I should have said "governor or Rod Aldridge"[/p][/quote]Good to see that Rod has finally kept his vile and abusive comments to himself. He should be ashamed of himself and the way he has spoken about children (and the parents of those children) that attend the school he purports to love so much. Money, money, money is all he's interested in. Point proven Legal1974

10:49pm Fri 11 Jan 13

johnroebuckofwhitrun says...

As a year 11 student, I think he has aimed to put his interests first and the schools (students and staff alike) second. We had a exam Thursday and loads of students missed out on their last lesson before the exam and a trip which had been especially set up for students to go to the University of Sussex for a last chance revision session. Mr M was the most hard-working member of staff at school and it is a disgrace that he has been replaced by this joker.
As a year 11 student, I think he has aimed to put his interests first and the schools (students and staff alike) second. We had a exam Thursday and loads of students missed out on their last lesson before the exam and a trip which had been especially set up for students to go to the University of Sussex for a last chance revision session. Mr M was the most hard-working member of staff at school and it is a disgrace that he has been replaced by this joker. johnroebuckofwhitrun

11:06pm Fri 11 Jan 13

MIstified says...

graham_Seagull wrote:
darkasnight1 wrote:
poppet wrote:
Fudge001 wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.
Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.
One of the most sensible comments on here. A time to comply should of been issued as they were told they were able to do some things by the old principle,then Mr Fox pops along with the new rules these should of been stated Mr M,sent letters out when he relaxed some rules,Mr Fox just charged in like a bull in a china shop,He would maybe of been given more support if parents had been made aware of the school gate inspections in advance and for some of the other issues that have been mentioned. As parents we are obligated to support our children,especially when some of the issues are so unfair,and with so many complaints their is obviously more to this story than many of the people commenting know. Wonder if you would be so keen to defend Mr Fox if it was your child who was upset,punish the wrongdoers,by all means but think before you judge every child,all children are not delinquents or liars,some are just trying to get through a day of school with as little grief as possible and dont need to be made late for classes unnecessarily.
Another parent prepared to blame others and not simply get on with applying the rules.

Stop whining and start being a parent!!!
If Mr Fox is as good as they imply, he would know that in fact, he is acting unlawfully if he excludes children purely on uniform issues. This is in breach of the exclusion laws. Funny how the school are now saying these children weren't excluded but given an authorised absent, and we should feel sorry for the governors it must be hard for them to admit they have made a terrible mistake.
[quote][p][bold]graham_Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poppet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.[/p][/quote]Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.[/p][/quote]One of the most sensible comments on here. A time to comply should of been issued as they were told they were able to do some things by the old principle,then Mr Fox pops along with the new rules these should of been stated Mr M,sent letters out when he relaxed some rules,Mr Fox just charged in like a bull in a china shop,He would maybe of been given more support if parents had been made aware of the school gate inspections in advance and for some of the other issues that have been mentioned. As parents we are obligated to support our children,especially when some of the issues are so unfair,and with so many complaints their is obviously more to this story than many of the people commenting know. Wonder if you would be so keen to defend Mr Fox if it was your child who was upset,punish the wrongdoers,by all means but think before you judge every child,all children are not delinquents or liars,some are just trying to get through a day of school with as little grief as possible and dont need to be made late for classes unnecessarily.[/p][/quote]Another parent prepared to blame others and not simply get on with applying the rules. Stop whining and start being a parent!!![/p][/quote]If Mr Fox is as good as they imply, he would know that in fact, he is acting unlawfully if he excludes children purely on uniform issues. This is in breach of the exclusion laws. Funny how the school are now saying these children weren't excluded but given an authorised absent, and we should feel sorry for the governors it must be hard for them to admit they have made a terrible mistake. MIstified

11:08pm Fri 11 Jan 13

trystero says...

bikerjimbo wrote:
It seems to me that the parents need to get behind the head and the governors to ensure their children achieve the standards that the head requires. I am quessing that the negative comments are from people whose standards fall below that of the head so perhaps they should also heed his approach themselves. If the students are told to alter their dress or avoid make-up etc. then this should be done and not argued about. The interesting thing will be if the school improves both on Ofsted inspections and exam results. Mr Fox please do not adopt a softer approach until you see an improvment within your academy.
"I am quessing (sic.) that the negative comments are from people whose standards fall below that of the head so perhaps they should also heed his approach themselves."

For details of "his approach", try googling "James Fox" and "Abbeyfield School, Wiltshire". As one Abbeyfield parent put it: "he spent far too much time and resources meddling with superfluous things at the school and not nearly enough time concentrating on the education of the students. Mr. Fox can, in my opinion, only be described as a power hungry empire builder. The students despise him and the parents treat him with contempt. If this is a shakeup the school needed, I dread to think what a shakeup the school doesn't need is."

Alternatively, note Legal1974's cogent and factually precise points in an earlier post: "As for Fox being appointed by the governors because they were 'struck by the quality of references and by endorsements…' that is absolute rubbish. Fox was appointed because he is chummy with Marie Getheridge, Director of Education at the Aldridge Foundation. She was head of Writhlington School during his post as deputy head. Both Fox and the Aldridge Foundation are well aware of the ‘payment by results’ system which is all they are interested in.... Talking of which, the 'Wiltshire Gazette' mentioned a possible misappropriation of funds by Fox during his time at Abbeyfield School but because he obviously signed a Compromise Agreement, nothing can be reported further. No smoke without fire. Fox is not interested in every individual pupil’s education, only himself and the results he can garner by excluding those who he doesn't think will pass."

This is, of course, all part and parcel of the ConDem Govite "Academy" experiment designed to line the pockets of "sponsors" like Aldridge by privatising state education in the name of what you interestingly term "improvment" (sic.). Given the assured and highly literate quality of your analysis, one can only ask: are you ("bikerjimbo") yet another another alias for Rod "I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment - accordingly, I reject your views" Aldridge? Or are you just Michael Gove in disguise?
[quote][p][bold]bikerjimbo[/bold] wrote: It seems to me that the parents need to get behind the head and the governors to ensure their children achieve the standards that the head requires. I am quessing that the negative comments are from people whose standards fall below that of the head so perhaps they should also heed his approach themselves. If the students are told to alter their dress or avoid make-up etc. then this should be done and not argued about. The interesting thing will be if the school improves both on Ofsted inspections and exam results. Mr Fox please do not adopt a softer approach until you see an improvment within your academy.[/p][/quote]"I am quessing (sic.) that the negative comments are from people whose standards fall below that of the head so perhaps they should also heed his approach themselves." For details of "his approach", try googling "James Fox" and "Abbeyfield School, Wiltshire". As one Abbeyfield parent put it: "he spent far too much time and resources meddling with superfluous things at the school and not nearly enough time concentrating on the education of the students. Mr. Fox can, in my opinion, only be described as a power hungry empire builder. The students despise him and the parents treat him with contempt. If this is a shakeup the school needed, I dread to think what a shakeup the school doesn't need is." Alternatively, note Legal1974's cogent and factually precise points in an earlier post: "As for Fox being appointed by the governors because they were 'struck by the quality of references and by endorsements…' that is absolute rubbish. Fox was appointed because he is chummy with Marie Getheridge, Director of Education at the Aldridge Foundation. She was head of Writhlington School during his post as deputy head. Both Fox and the Aldridge Foundation are well aware of the ‘payment by results’ system which is all they are interested in.... Talking of which, the 'Wiltshire Gazette' mentioned a possible misappropriation of funds by Fox during his time at Abbeyfield School but because he obviously signed a Compromise Agreement, nothing can be reported further. No smoke without fire. Fox is not interested in every individual pupil’s education, only himself and the results he can garner by excluding those who he doesn't think will pass." This is, of course, all part and parcel of the ConDem Govite "Academy" experiment designed to line the pockets of "sponsors" like Aldridge by privatising state education in the name of what you interestingly term "improvment" (sic.). Given the assured and highly literate quality of your analysis, one can only ask: are you ("bikerjimbo") yet another another alias for Rod "I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment - accordingly, I reject your views" Aldridge? Or are you just Michael Gove in disguise? trystero

11:09pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Dave At Home says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Lets not fool ourselves here - our council are working hand in hand with Rod Aldridge who built one of the worst companies in the country for treatment of staff. It's horrendous that the council can hand over schools to such a man who then goes and sacks very good head teachers. Mr Fox has a questionable history but no doubt he's working hand in hand with Mr Aldridge to make the next million. These academies are nothing to do with education of our children and everything to do with lining the pockets of businessmen such as Aldridge and Fox as well as local politicians who no doubt have accepted some sort of back hander.
The problems started with Mike Tait and the lack of input or support from the Council. The school have been bad neighbours for the last 10 years, there are problems that we have asked to be sorted out but to no avail, promises that have been made and broken as quick, so maybe the neighbours should get tough like Mr Fox and see how he likes being on the receiving end.

I still can't believe that Rod Aldridge is going around telling people the reason he took over the school is because he went there and he wants to put something back in his old neighbourhood. Well we all know that when Rod Aldridge went to school (1964), the present site was an all girls school so chances of him going there are very remote, unless he under went a certain gender change. So when the principal sponsor lies like this how do they expect the pupils to tell the truth?

The local community (Council run) library is about to be closed because the school won't allow public into it, Monday to Friday 8am to 6pm, didn't know the council worked at weekends so another amenity shut down, which the local councillors are unable to do anything about, thank god there will be local elections soon, that's all I will say.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Lets not fool ourselves here - our council are working hand in hand with Rod Aldridge who built one of the worst companies in the country for treatment of staff. It's horrendous that the council can hand over schools to such a man who then goes and sacks very good head teachers. Mr Fox has a questionable history but no doubt he's working hand in hand with Mr Aldridge to make the next million. These academies are nothing to do with education of our children and everything to do with lining the pockets of businessmen such as Aldridge and Fox as well as local politicians who no doubt have accepted some sort of back hander.[/p][/quote]The problems started with Mike Tait and the lack of input or support from the Council. The school have been bad neighbours for the last 10 years, there are problems that we have asked to be sorted out but to no avail, promises that have been made and broken as quick, so maybe the neighbours should get tough like Mr Fox and see how he likes being on the receiving end. I still can't believe that Rod Aldridge is going around telling people the reason he took over the school is because he went there and he wants to put something back in his old neighbourhood. Well we all know that when Rod Aldridge went to school (1964), the present site was an all girls school so chances of him going there are very remote, unless he under went a certain gender change. So when the principal sponsor lies like this how do they expect the pupils to tell the truth? The local community (Council run) library is about to be closed because the school won't allow public into it, Monday to Friday 8am to 6pm, didn't know the council worked at weekends so another amenity shut down, which the local councillors are unable to do anything about, thank god there will be local elections soon, that's all I will say. Dave At Home

11:12pm Fri 11 Jan 13

trystero says...

HJarrs wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Lets not fool ourselves here - our council are working hand in hand with Rod Aldridge who built one of the worst companies in the country for treatment of staff. It's horrendous that the council can hand over schools to such a man who then goes and sacks very good head teachers. Mr Fox has a questionable history but no doubt he's working hand in hand with Mr Aldridge to make the next million. These academies are nothing to do with education of our children and everything to do with lining the pockets of businessmen such as Aldridge and Fox as well as local politicians who no doubt have accepted some sort of back hander.
Point of correction, I think you will find that only Labour and Conservative politicians locally supported Academies. I very much doubt the current administration want to see an extension of this policy, which is a prelude to further education privitisation.
All of which is perfectly true.

However, let's all blame The Greens anyway. For everything.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Lets not fool ourselves here - our council are working hand in hand with Rod Aldridge who built one of the worst companies in the country for treatment of staff. It's horrendous that the council can hand over schools to such a man who then goes and sacks very good head teachers. Mr Fox has a questionable history but no doubt he's working hand in hand with Mr Aldridge to make the next million. These academies are nothing to do with education of our children and everything to do with lining the pockets of businessmen such as Aldridge and Fox as well as local politicians who no doubt have accepted some sort of back hander.[/p][/quote]Point of correction, I think you will find that only Labour and Conservative politicians locally supported Academies. I very much doubt the current administration want to see an extension of this policy, which is a prelude to further education privitisation.[/p][/quote]All of which is perfectly true. However, let's all blame The Greens anyway. For everything. trystero

11:13pm Fri 11 Jan 13

MIstified says...

Fudge001 wrote:
SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.
is that your real name?
No, but did you get the reference?
Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection!
I am a parent and have brought my children up to listen to others but also talk them, that they have a right to their own opinions. They are well mannered, well adjusted individuals not clones of something out of Victorian times when children were seen and not heard.
[quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimonPetrikov457[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimonPetrikov457[/bold] wrote: Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.[/p][/quote]is that your real name?[/p][/quote]No, but did you get the reference?[/p][/quote]Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection![/p][/quote]I am a parent and have brought my children up to listen to others but also talk them, that they have a right to their own opinions. They are well mannered, well adjusted individuals not clones of something out of Victorian times when children were seen and not heard. MIstified

11:16pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Clear the trash out and give the decent kids a good education.
There are rules in the workplace and British kids seem to struggle to accept them making migrant workers more attractive employees so this head is at least giving his students a head start on entering the workplace.
Clear the trash out and give the decent kids a good education. There are rules in the workplace and British kids seem to struggle to accept them making migrant workers more attractive employees so this head is at least giving his students a head start on entering the workplace. Maxwell's Ghost

11:22pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Fudge001 says...

MIstified wrote:
graham_Seagull wrote:
darkasnight1 wrote:
poppet wrote:
Fudge001 wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.
Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.
One of the most sensible comments on here. A time to comply should of been issued as they were told they were able to do some things by the old principle,then Mr Fox pops along with the new rules these should of been stated Mr M,sent letters out when he relaxed some rules,Mr Fox just charged in like a bull in a china shop,He would maybe of been given more support if parents had been made aware of the school gate inspections in advance and for some of the other issues that have been mentioned. As parents we are obligated to support our children,especially when some of the issues are so unfair,and with so many complaints their is obviously more to this story than many of the people commenting know. Wonder if you would be so keen to defend Mr Fox if it was your child who was upset,punish the wrongdoers,by all means but think before you judge every child,all children are not delinquents or liars,some are just trying to get through a day of school with as little grief as possible and dont need to be made late for classes unnecessarily.
Another parent prepared to blame others and not simply get on with applying the rules.

Stop whining and start being a parent!!!
If Mr Fox is as good as they imply, he would know that in fact, he is acting unlawfully if he excludes children purely on uniform issues. This is in breach of the exclusion laws. Funny how the school are now saying these children weren't excluded but given an authorised absent, and we should feel sorry for the governors it must be hard for them to admit they have made a terrible mistake.
Well said. But sadly I m still afraid for my children not because they are naughty but because I'm sure a new rule will be introduced that they will break because they are A* students. They are however A-C which is beyond my expectations for this school..
[quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]graham_Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]poppet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.[/p][/quote]Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.[/p][/quote]One of the most sensible comments on here. A time to comply should of been issued as they were told they were able to do some things by the old principle,then Mr Fox pops along with the new rules these should of been stated Mr M,sent letters out when he relaxed some rules,Mr Fox just charged in like a bull in a china shop,He would maybe of been given more support if parents had been made aware of the school gate inspections in advance and for some of the other issues that have been mentioned. As parents we are obligated to support our children,especially when some of the issues are so unfair,and with so many complaints their is obviously more to this story than many of the people commenting know. Wonder if you would be so keen to defend Mr Fox if it was your child who was upset,punish the wrongdoers,by all means but think before you judge every child,all children are not delinquents or liars,some are just trying to get through a day of school with as little grief as possible and dont need to be made late for classes unnecessarily.[/p][/quote]Another parent prepared to blame others and not simply get on with applying the rules. Stop whining and start being a parent!!![/p][/quote]If Mr Fox is as good as they imply, he would know that in fact, he is acting unlawfully if he excludes children purely on uniform issues. This is in breach of the exclusion laws. Funny how the school are now saying these children weren't excluded but given an authorised absent, and we should feel sorry for the governors it must be hard for them to admit they have made a terrible mistake.[/p][/quote]Well said. But sadly I m still afraid for my children not because they are naughty but because I'm sure a new rule will be introduced that they will break because they are A* students. They are however A-C which is beyond my expectations for this school.. Fudge001

11:27pm Fri 11 Jan 13

S18..... says...

matlock wrote:
I used to visit most of the schools in Sussex as part of my work, and I have always maintained that PCC was one of the most vile institutions I have ever been in. The behaviour of the kids was verging on anarchistic, and all staff had lost control. I remember waiting outside a classroom, listening to the teacher screaming over and over again for the kids to shut up, but he was fighting against a classroom full of kids retaliating by shouting and swearing at him. It transpired that it was the deputy head in that room. That cemented my view that the only solution was to close the school.

I commend the management style that Mr Fox has adopted. In this instance it is entirely necessary and is precisely what the kids, staff and parents need even if they don't yet realise it.
I work at the Academy and completely agree with your comments about behaviour of the kids etc. Over the past week I have been constantly walking around "gobsmacked" with the change that has been made since Mr Fox took control. I would put money down to say that you wouldn`t believe your eyes if you payed us another visit and if you have a chance please do. The children now line up outside before the start of class very quietly, If they have to move from one area of the academy to another they do so in a line behind the teacher. The litter in and around the academy has practically vanished over night. If I hadn`t seen it for myself I would not have believed that such a change could of happened in under a week. I urge every parent with good or bad opinions to give Mr Fox a chance. He has taken on a school at a challenging time with all the building work going and for the comments that he doesn`t care about the kids then you obviously not spoken to him. The bottom line is that these kids are our future and if discipline and respect are picked up on the way how can that be a bad thing?
[quote][p][bold]matlock[/bold] wrote: I used to visit most of the schools in Sussex as part of my work, and I have always maintained that PCC was one of the most vile institutions I have ever been in. The behaviour of the kids was verging on anarchistic, and all staff had lost control. I remember waiting outside a classroom, listening to the teacher screaming over and over again for the kids to shut up, but he was fighting against a classroom full of kids retaliating by shouting and swearing at him. It transpired that it was the deputy head in that room. That cemented my view that the only solution was to close the school. I commend the management style that Mr Fox has adopted. In this instance it is entirely necessary and is precisely what the kids, staff and parents need even if they don't yet realise it.[/p][/quote]I work at the Academy and completely agree with your comments about behaviour of the kids etc. Over the past week I have been constantly walking around "gobsmacked" with the change that has been made since Mr Fox took control. I would put money down to say that you wouldn`t believe your eyes if you payed us another visit and if you have a chance please do. The children now line up outside before the start of class very quietly, If they have to move from one area of the academy to another they do so in a line behind the teacher. The litter in and around the academy has practically vanished over night. If I hadn`t seen it for myself I would not have believed that such a change could of happened in under a week. I urge every parent with good or bad opinions to give Mr Fox a chance. He has taken on a school at a challenging time with all the building work going and for the comments that he doesn`t care about the kids then you obviously not spoken to him. The bottom line is that these kids are our future and if discipline and respect are picked up on the way how can that be a bad thing? S18.....

11:28pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Fudge001 says...

MIstified wrote:
Fudge001 wrote:
SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.
is that your real name?
No, but did you get the reference?
Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection!
I am a parent and have brought my children up to listen to others but also talk them, that they have a right to their own opinions. They are well mannered, well adjusted individuals not clones of something out of Victorian times when children were seen and not heard.
Was a comment to Simon Petrikov
[quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimonPetrikov457[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimonPetrikov457[/bold] wrote: Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.[/p][/quote]is that your real name?[/p][/quote]No, but did you get the reference?[/p][/quote]Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection![/p][/quote]I am a parent and have brought my children up to listen to others but also talk them, that they have a right to their own opinions. They are well mannered, well adjusted individuals not clones of something out of Victorian times when children were seen and not heard.[/p][/quote]Was a comment to Simon Petrikov Fudge001

11:39pm Fri 11 Jan 13

just-a-person says...

S18..... wrote:
darkasnight1 wrote:
If the skirts are too short then its the schools fault as we have to buy the uniform from PACA,and just for the record my child leaves the house smart at all times "No flesh on show,No make up,and a very understated hairstyle" she was still stopped on the gate and accused of having false nails."NO" just clean and nicely shaped,and accused of having extreme hair,a eyebrow length straight fringe,Extreme is it ?? Well that must make me a social outcast !!!! This is just a ordinary secondary school and most of the children are being stopped even ones with a hole in their tights or trousers,we cannot afford the school uniform riddiculous prices to replace as often as liked as ALL uniform is bought through PACA...
It is a well known fact that some of the girls roll their skirts from the waist to make the skirt shorter. If this is not the case and the skirt is too short, then maybe a longer one should he been purchased in the begining as you can buy them in different lengths.
How expensive is the uniform ? My daughter used to leave the house and between that and getting to school rolled her skirt up as the other person said. I would say that the uniform was a very reasonable price and actually worked out cheaper than the old uniforms some still have in place.
[quote][p][bold]S18.....[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: If the skirts are too short then its the schools fault as we have to buy the uniform from PACA,and just for the record my child leaves the house smart at all times "No flesh on show,No make up,and a very understated hairstyle" she was still stopped on the gate and accused of having false nails."NO" just clean and nicely shaped,and accused of having extreme hair,a eyebrow length straight fringe,Extreme is it ?? Well that must make me a social outcast !!!! This is just a ordinary secondary school and most of the children are being stopped even ones with a hole in their tights or trousers,we cannot afford the school uniform riddiculous prices to replace as often as liked as ALL uniform is bought through PACA...[/p][/quote]It is a well known fact that some of the girls roll their skirts from the waist to make the skirt shorter. If this is not the case and the skirt is too short, then maybe a longer one should he been purchased in the begining as you can buy them in different lengths.[/p][/quote]How expensive is the uniform ? My daughter used to leave the house and between that and getting to school rolled her skirt up as the other person said. I would say that the uniform was a very reasonable price and actually worked out cheaper than the old uniforms some still have in place. just-a-person

11:45pm Fri 11 Jan 13

trystero says...

The PACA website currently features a photograph of a "Year 11 English winner" with the top button of his shirt visibly undone under his tie.

This is clearly a disgrace. Nothing short of permanent exclusion would seem to be called for. Or is Mr Fox getting lax after such an (ahem) "emphatic" start?
The PACA website currently features a photograph of a "Year 11 English winner" with the top button of his shirt visibly undone under his tie. This is clearly a disgrace. Nothing short of permanent exclusion would seem to be called for. Or is Mr Fox getting lax after such an (ahem) "emphatic" start? trystero

11:50pm Fri 11 Jan 13

just-a-person says...

Legal1974 wrote:
hubby wrote:
Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.
The majority of the pupils we are talking about are not bad children, nor are the parents or teachers. This is about unreasonable disciplinary measures interrupting the pupils' education during important GCSE studies and exams by a bully who has gone about this in an entirely incorrect manner and is not leading by example. You have obviously not been keeping up with the comments on here. Your comment is completely irrelevant to the issues so I suggest you just keep your pointless opinions to yourself.
"Hubby" left Brighton to give his kids a better life but seems to spend his days trawling The Argus website.
[quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.[/p][/quote]The majority of the pupils we are talking about are not bad children, nor are the parents or teachers. This is about unreasonable disciplinary measures interrupting the pupils' education during important GCSE studies and exams by a bully who has gone about this in an entirely incorrect manner and is not leading by example. You have obviously not been keeping up with the comments on here. Your comment is completely irrelevant to the issues so I suggest you just keep your pointless opinions to yourself.[/p][/quote]"Hubby" left Brighton to give his kids a better life but seems to spend his days trawling The Argus website. just-a-person

12:00am Sat 12 Jan 13

trystero says...

Interestingly, the "Sponsors" section of the PACA website asserts that "all Aldridge academies" encourage their young people to - among other things - "reject the status quo".

However, it would appear that under Mr Fox's new regime (or "Neuordnung",perhaps
?), students engaging in such "rejection" - by such radical means as (say) wearing hairbands on their wrists or leaving the top buttons of their shirts undone under their ties - are to be Suitably Punished.

So - could it be that some of the claims made for "all Aldridge academies" are just the teensiest bit innacurate? Or, to put it a tad more bluntly, self-serving mendacious hogwash?
Interestingly, the "Sponsors" section of the PACA website asserts that "all Aldridge academies" encourage their young people to - among other things - "reject the status quo". However, it would appear that under Mr Fox's new regime (or "Neuordnung",perhaps ?), students engaging in such "rejection" - by such radical means as (say) wearing hairbands on their wrists or leaving the top buttons of their shirts undone under their ties - are to be Suitably Punished. So - could it be that some of the claims made for "all Aldridge academies" are just the teensiest bit innacurate? Or, to put it a tad more bluntly, self-serving mendacious hogwash? trystero

12:05am Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Clear the trash out and give the decent kids a good education. There are rules in the workplace and British kids seem to struggle to accept them making migrant workers more attractive employees so this head is at least giving his students a head start on entering the workplace.
I don't know how many times this has to be repeated so I'll say it again. It is not the discipline or the policies that parents are upset about. Every parent wants their child(ren) to have every opportunity to receive a good education and discipline is integral to that. It is about the way it is being handled and the intimidating, unreasonable, harassing and bullying way it is being put into place at the expense of education. If a senior manager (or any employee for that matter) bullied a colleague the way Fox is bullying the pupils, he would be sued and sacked. The Aldridge Foundation is vicariously liable for its employee and therefore, in fact, Fox can be dealt with in the same way - he (or the Aldridge Foundation) can be sued for harassment, a tort (civil wrong) which attracts damages. If you're still reading Rod, take note. I might well urge the parents of the children who have been expelled or excluded to do just that
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Clear the trash out and give the decent kids a good education. There are rules in the workplace and British kids seem to struggle to accept them making migrant workers more attractive employees so this head is at least giving his students a head start on entering the workplace.[/p][/quote]I don't know how many times this has to be repeated so I'll say it again. It is not the discipline or the policies that parents are upset about. Every parent wants their child(ren) to have every opportunity to receive a good education and discipline is integral to that. It is about the way it is being handled and the intimidating, unreasonable, harassing and bullying way it is being put into place at the expense of education. If a senior manager (or any employee for that matter) bullied a colleague the way Fox is bullying the pupils, he would be sued and sacked. The Aldridge Foundation is vicariously liable for its employee and therefore, in fact, Fox can be dealt with in the same way - he (or the Aldridge Foundation) can be sued for harassment, a tort (civil wrong) which attracts damages. If you're still reading Rod, take note. I might well urge the parents of the children who have been expelled or excluded to do just that Legal1974

12:15am Sat 12 Jan 13

just-a-person says...

darkasnight1 wrote:
I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr

ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !!
"How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...???" I do and it is called work !!! The sad fact is that in life you have to follow rules so the quicker the kids get used to it the better.
[quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !![/p][/quote]"How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...???" I do and it is called work !!! The sad fact is that in life you have to follow rules so the quicker the kids get used to it the better. just-a-person

12:18am Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

just-a-person wrote:
darkasnight1 wrote: I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !!
"How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...???" I do and it is called work !!! The sad fact is that in life you have to follow rules so the quicker the kids get used to it the better.
get a different job then.
[quote][p][bold]just-a-person[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !![/p][/quote]"How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...???" I do and it is called work !!! The sad fact is that in life you have to follow rules so the quicker the kids get used to it the better.[/p][/quote]get a different job then. Legal1974

12:35am Sat 12 Jan 13

Maxwell's Ghost says...

You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed.
As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal.
Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market.
It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics.
Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.
You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed. As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal. Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market. It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics. Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all. Maxwell's Ghost

12:37am Sat 12 Jan 13

jackdaniels46 says...

johnroebuckofwhitrun wrote:
As a year 11 student, I think he has aimed to put his interests first and the schools (students and staff alike) second. We had a exam Thursday and loads of students missed out on their last lesson before the exam and a trip which had been especially set up for students to go to the University of Sussex for a last chance revision session. Mr M was the most hard-working member of staff at school and it is a disgrace that he has been replaced by this joker.
I said much the same in my earlier comments but as a student I applaud you for making this point and I hope that the governors read this - Mr Fox is supposed to be there to support the learning process - you guys should have had a calm and productive three days prior to your exams, lets hope your grades didn't suffer because of all this chaos
[quote][p][bold]johnroebuckofwhitrun[/bold] wrote: As a year 11 student, I think he has aimed to put his interests first and the schools (students and staff alike) second. We had a exam Thursday and loads of students missed out on their last lesson before the exam and a trip which had been especially set up for students to go to the University of Sussex for a last chance revision session. Mr M was the most hard-working member of staff at school and it is a disgrace that he has been replaced by this joker.[/p][/quote]I said much the same in my earlier comments but as a student I applaud you for making this point and I hope that the governors read this - Mr Fox is supposed to be there to support the learning process - you guys should have had a calm and productive three days prior to your exams, lets hope your grades didn't suffer because of all this chaos jackdaniels46

1:04am Sat 12 Jan 13

trystero says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed.
As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal.
Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market.
It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics.
Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.
Funnily enough, NO state education system in mainland Europe (including all those - e.g. in Finland -comprehensively outperforming the current UK setup) insists on any school uniform AT ALL for students - let alone the sort of hands-on collar-grabbing rigidity currently being enforced by Mr (or should that be RSM?) Fox on the hapless inmates of PACA. And yes - those non-uniformed European kids do seem to be able to "tolerate tough environments" DESPITE this lack (bought-from-PACA) fibre....

Then again, the UK (and England in particular) has always had a well-developed uniform fetish capable of swamping all rational thought or debate. As an ex-military chap (and failed industrialist - presumably due to his inability to "tolerate tough environments"), RSM Fox clearly realises what's likely to play well with The Great British Public - and, more importantly, with His Sponsors And Patrons.

As for the unfortunate students lumbered with his "New Order" at PACA (and offered no state-sector alternatives thanks to BHCC's cynical connivance over secondary catchments) - perhaps they should all emigrate to Finland?
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed. As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal. Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market. It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics. Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.[/p][/quote]Funnily enough, NO state education system in mainland Europe (including all those - e.g. in Finland -comprehensively outperforming the current UK setup) insists on any school uniform AT ALL for students - let alone the sort of hands-on collar-grabbing rigidity currently being enforced by Mr (or should that be RSM?) Fox on the hapless inmates of PACA. And yes - those non-uniformed European kids do seem to be able to "tolerate tough environments" DESPITE this lack (bought-from-PACA) fibre.... Then again, the UK (and England in particular) has always had a well-developed uniform fetish capable of swamping all rational thought or debate. As an ex-military chap (and failed industrialist - presumably due to his inability to "tolerate tough environments"), RSM Fox clearly realises what's likely to play well with The Great British Public - and, more importantly, with His Sponsors And Patrons. As for the unfortunate students lumbered with his "New Order" at PACA (and offered no state-sector alternatives thanks to BHCC's cynical connivance over secondary catchments) - perhaps they should all emigrate to Finland? trystero

1:13am Sat 12 Jan 13

johnny_13 says...

I have had the dubious pleasure of meeting Mr Fox. Not in his capacity of head teacher, however in the 6th form to try and explain the reason behind my stepson being totally let down by the teaching that was gingerely offered. He asked me to email him with my complaints, specifically regarding the diminutive view I had of the support structure involved in the 6th form. I would suggest, as an educated and fairly reasoned individual, yes individual, and I affirm the statement as I have tattoo's, ride motorcycles so probably do not conform to any of his stereotypical parenting types, that this is nothing to do with Mr Fox. This is more to do with a company investing in a business model and seeing the investment not materialise in a timely fashion. Think of it per say Greg Stanley selling the Goldstone Ground to his own investment building company. If you cannot get the kids through the door, or more to the point the educational level to the correct standard needed for the government grants, you will have to foot the bill for the refurbishment single handed. Anyone who is an aggrieved parent, I fully understand your grievance, however put your money where your mouth is and collectively make a stand, get your OWN parents body together and stop waiting for an appointment. Sadly for us, with our a grade boy, it is too late and he has made other future plans. Also for those commending Mr Fox on his attitude, I would suggest you realise and understand how everything in your life is served up, waited to and delivered by very different, very individual people. Not everyone has tattoo's and not everyone is religious, and it is these individual merits that have made our great nation what it is, we have a turban wearing spin bowler beating the inventors of spin bowling in their country, and this is what we want to dictate is wrong to our future generation?????
I have had the dubious pleasure of meeting Mr Fox. Not in his capacity of head teacher, however in the 6th form to try and explain the reason behind my stepson being totally let down by the teaching that was gingerely offered. He asked me to email him with my complaints, specifically regarding the diminutive view I had of the support structure involved in the 6th form. I would suggest, as an educated and fairly reasoned individual, yes individual, and I affirm the statement as I have tattoo's, ride motorcycles so probably do not conform to any of his stereotypical parenting types, that this is nothing to do with Mr Fox. This is more to do with a company investing in a business model and seeing the investment not materialise in a timely fashion. Think of it per say Greg Stanley selling the Goldstone Ground to his own investment building company. If you cannot get the kids through the door, or more to the point the educational level to the correct standard needed for the government grants, you will have to foot the bill for the refurbishment single handed. Anyone who is an aggrieved parent, I fully understand your grievance, however put your money where your mouth is and collectively make a stand, get your OWN parents body together and stop waiting for an appointment. Sadly for us, with our a grade boy, it is too late and he has made other future plans. Also for those commending Mr Fox on his attitude, I would suggest you realise and understand how everything in your life is served up, waited to and delivered by very different, very individual people. Not everyone has tattoo's and not everyone is religious, and it is these individual merits that have made our great nation what it is, we have a turban wearing spin bowler beating the inventors of spin bowling in their country, and this is what we want to dictate is wrong to our future generation????? johnny_13

1:34am Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed.
As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal.
Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market.
It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics.
Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.
As you are a journalist, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A child is not an employee of the school and cannot, therefore, bring a claim in the employment tribunal (at which a person making a claim is an applicant, not a complainant). A claim for harassment, and negligence for that matter (the school could be negligent in denying education), can be brought in the law of tort at a county or high court, in which case the person making a claim is a claimant. The school may also be found to be in breach of its statutory obligations in relation to exclusions and expulsion. The point i was making about vicarious liability is that fox is an employee of the Aldridge Foundation. the AF is vicariously liable for the wrongdoings of its employees. Nothing at all to do with a claim in employment law. I'll do you a deal - don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to do yours
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed. As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal. Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market. It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics. Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.[/p][/quote]As you are a journalist, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A child is not an employee of the school and cannot, therefore, bring a claim in the employment tribunal (at which a person making a claim is an applicant, not a complainant). A claim for harassment, and negligence for that matter (the school could be negligent in denying education), can be brought in the law of tort at a county or high court, in which case the person making a claim is a claimant. The school may also be found to be in breach of its statutory obligations in relation to exclusions and expulsion. The point i was making about vicarious liability is that fox is an employee of the Aldridge Foundation. the AF is vicariously liable for the wrongdoings of its employees. Nothing at all to do with a claim in employment law. I'll do you a deal - don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to do yours Legal1974

1:36am Sat 12 Jan 13

Remus1996 says...

May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA.

How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are!

I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair!

With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS!

Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much!

Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh?

There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army!
May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA. How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are! I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair! With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS! Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much! Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh? There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army! Remus1996

3:44am Sat 12 Jan 13

Roundbill says...

trystero wrote:
Interestingly, the "Sponsors" section of the PACA website asserts that "all Aldridge academies" encourage their young people to - among other things - "reject the status quo".

However, it would appear that under Mr Fox's new regime (or "Neuordnung",perhaps

?), students engaging in such "rejection" - by such radical means as (say) wearing hairbands on their wrists or leaving the top buttons of their shirts undone under their ties - are to be Suitably Punished.

So - could it be that some of the claims made for "all Aldridge academies" are just the teensiest bit innacurate? Or, to put it a tad more bluntly, self-serving mendacious hogwash?
Wassat? "Neuordnung"
Woo-hoo! 152 comments before anybody invoked Godwin's Law - I think this may be an all-time record in teh webternets!
[quote][p][bold]trystero[/bold] wrote: Interestingly, the "Sponsors" section of the PACA website asserts that "all Aldridge academies" encourage their young people to - among other things - "reject the status quo". However, it would appear that under Mr Fox's new regime (or "Neuordnung",perhaps ?), students engaging in such "rejection" - by such radical means as (say) wearing hairbands on their wrists or leaving the top buttons of their shirts undone under their ties - are to be Suitably Punished. So - could it be that some of the claims made for "all Aldridge academies" are just the teensiest bit innacurate? Or, to put it a tad more bluntly, self-serving mendacious hogwash?[/p][/quote]Wassat? "Neuordnung" Woo-hoo! 152 comments before anybody invoked Godwin's Law - I think this may be an all-time record in teh webternets! Roundbill

4:16am Sat 12 Jan 13

whereisthe...? says...

Good for Mr Fox. Sounds like typical whining parents - ignore them. Too many parents, often women, dont even bother dressing their kids appropriately for the street, let alone for school!
Good for Mr Fox. Sounds like typical whining parents - ignore them. Too many parents, often women, dont even bother dressing their kids appropriately for the street, let alone for school! whereisthe...?

4:56am Sat 12 Jan 13

willy harris says...

Indigatio wrote:
Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.
bring on the leather straps and slippers,,sounds like a job for the saville brigade,
[quote][p][bold]Indigatio[/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.[/p][/quote]bring on the leather straps and slippers,,sounds like a job for the saville brigade, willy harris

6:56am Sat 12 Jan 13

Mozartian says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
I would advise any parent who is unhappy with their child being suspended from this school should make a written complaint about the head teacher to the chair of governors. .
Don't be silly Mrs N. They probably wasted their time when they were at school - just like their kids are doing now - and consequently writing isn't their strong suit.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: I would advise any parent who is unhappy with their child being suspended from this school should make a written complaint about the head teacher to the chair of governors. .[/p][/quote]Don't be silly Mrs N. They probably wasted their time when they were at school - just like their kids are doing now - and consequently writing isn't their strong suit. Mozartian

7:03am Sat 12 Jan 13

Mozartian says...

funkyyoyo wrote:
well done mr new headteacher, 0% tollerance and if the parents dont like it...TOUGH !! its called school,where you learn manners discipline (an unknown word to some parents) and an education!!!
Discipline should be learnt at home.
[quote][p][bold]funkyyoyo[/bold] wrote: well done mr new headteacher, 0% tollerance and if the parents dont like it...TOUGH !! its called school,where you learn manners discipline (an unknown word to some parents) and an education!!![/p][/quote]Discipline should be learnt at home. Mozartian

7:16am Sat 12 Jan 13

brightonearly says...

I would like to say what a difference Mr Fox has made in a week. The majority of rules are NOT new! The students have just been allowed to get away with doing as they please for too long. The way some of the students speak to peers and staff, was disgusting, they turn up when they want to, some have no respect for their environment, with thousands of pounds of damage already been done to new areas of the school and coming to school looking like they were off nightclubbing. If they were going to work like that, they would be sacked immediately. Part of going to school is learning skills and behaviours that will help you when you leave school and go into the big wide world.
Alot of things being reported are not true such as students not being allowed to wear coats to school. That is nonsense! Of course they can wear a coat to school - the rule is that they take it off when they get in the door...is that not normal behaviour? Would you keep your coat on once you get home or if you go visiting friends? The number of students being reported as excluded is also rubbish.
Mr Fox is a breath of fresh air and a very welcome one especially when you have daily battles with students for their behaviour and lack of self respect and pride.
All students are aware of the rules (yes, most of them have been in place for over a year!!) and as long as they stick to them, they will not be in trouble. As a parent myself, I taught my children to be polite, have good manners and show respect. Unfortunately, not all parents are the same and now they don't like it when someone else tries to do it for them! Long may Mr Fox reign at PACA!
I would like to say what a difference Mr Fox has made in a week. The majority of rules are NOT new! The students have just been allowed to get away with doing as they please for too long. The way some of the students speak to peers and staff, was disgusting, they turn up when they want to, some have no respect for their environment, with thousands of pounds of damage already been done to new areas of the school and coming to school looking like they were off nightclubbing. If they were going to work like that, they would be sacked immediately. Part of going to school is learning skills and behaviours that will help you when you leave school and go into the big wide world. Alot of things being reported are not true such as students not being allowed to wear coats to school. That is nonsense! Of course they can wear a coat to school - the rule is that they take it off when they get in the door...is that not normal behaviour? Would you keep your coat on once you get home or if you go visiting friends? The number of students being reported as excluded is also rubbish. Mr Fox is a breath of fresh air and a very welcome one especially when you have daily battles with students for their behaviour and lack of self respect and pride. All students are aware of the rules (yes, most of them have been in place for over a year!!) and as long as they stick to them, they will not be in trouble. As a parent myself, I taught my children to be polite, have good manners and show respect. Unfortunately, not all parents are the same and now they don't like it when someone else tries to do it for them! Long may Mr Fox reign at PACA! brightonearly

7:24am Sat 12 Jan 13

teacher3456 says...

MIstified wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.
My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox
Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.
[quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.[/p][/quote]My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox[/p][/quote]Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school. teacher3456

7:33am Sat 12 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Legal1974 wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed.
As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal.
Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market.
It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics.
Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.
As you are a journalist, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A child is not an employee of the school and cannot, therefore, bring a claim in the employment tribunal (at which a person making a claim is an applicant, not a complainant). A claim for harassment, and negligence for that matter (the school could be negligent in denying education), can be brought in the law of tort at a county or high court, in which case the person making a claim is a claimant. The school may also be found to be in breach of its statutory obligations in relation to exclusions and expulsion. The point i was making about vicarious liability is that fox is an employee of the Aldridge Foundation. the AF is vicariously liable for the wrongdoings of its employees. Nothing at all to do with a claim in employment law. I'll do you a deal - don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to do yours
Legal1974 - would do well to deal with 'the fact' rather than building a position based on rumour and hypothesis.

I am not Rod. I am just a concerned parent and tax payer with a passion for improving our once great town. This is likely to be achieved by dealing with the miscreants in the Brighton population through increased accountability and contribution. To achieve this we need to address root cause, rather than dealing with the symptoms and in my opinion these first steps in this instance are now being taken.

Parents should be working with and supporting the Head not bleating petty concerns on this site.
[quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed. As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal. Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market. It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics. Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.[/p][/quote]As you are a journalist, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A child is not an employee of the school and cannot, therefore, bring a claim in the employment tribunal (at which a person making a claim is an applicant, not a complainant). A claim for harassment, and negligence for that matter (the school could be negligent in denying education), can be brought in the law of tort at a county or high court, in which case the person making a claim is a claimant. The school may also be found to be in breach of its statutory obligations in relation to exclusions and expulsion. The point i was making about vicarious liability is that fox is an employee of the Aldridge Foundation. the AF is vicariously liable for the wrongdoings of its employees. Nothing at all to do with a claim in employment law. I'll do you a deal - don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to do yours[/p][/quote]Legal1974 - would do well to deal with 'the fact' rather than building a position based on rumour and hypothesis. I am not Rod. I am just a concerned parent and tax payer with a passion for improving our once great town. This is likely to be achieved by dealing with the miscreants in the Brighton population through increased accountability and contribution. To achieve this we need to address root cause, rather than dealing with the symptoms and in my opinion these first steps in this instance are now being taken. Parents should be working with and supporting the Head not bleating petty concerns on this site. Somethingsarejustwrong

8:49am Sat 12 Jan 13

evon says...

Good for you Mr Fox start as you mean to go on. Next step stop the parents parking all over the place - across driveways, on grass verges and double yellow lines just so that the children don't have to walk far for a lift home - shame - I used to walk to to school four times a day. Carry on with your discipline, god knows lots of kids need it along with respect.
Good for you Mr Fox start as you mean to go on. Next step stop the parents parking all over the place - across driveways, on grass verges and double yellow lines just so that the children don't have to walk far for a lift home - shame - I used to walk to to school four times a day. Carry on with your discipline, god knows lots of kids need it along with respect. evon

9:10am Sat 12 Jan 13

MIstified says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Clear the trash out and give the decent kids a good education.
There are rules in the workplace and British kids seem to struggle to accept them making migrant workers more attractive employees so this head is at least giving his students a head start on entering the workplace.
If your employer treated you like Mr Fox is treating these children you would be contacting your union or a lawyer. At least as adults we have the right to protect ourselves against bullies. How does intimidating children prepare them for the workplace.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Clear the trash out and give the decent kids a good education. There are rules in the workplace and British kids seem to struggle to accept them making migrant workers more attractive employees so this head is at least giving his students a head start on entering the workplace.[/p][/quote]If your employer treated you like Mr Fox is treating these children you would be contacting your union or a lawyer. At least as adults we have the right to protect ourselves against bullies. How does intimidating children prepare them for the workplace. MIstified

9:23am Sat 12 Jan 13

MIstified says...

Remus1996 wrote:
May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA.

How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are!

I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair!

With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS!

Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much!

Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh?

There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army!
We should all be listening to these students, they are the ones who have to face this every day. I work in education and know that we are there to teach the children about all aspects of life. Not man handle them in anyway. Yes some children are challenging but as professionals there are much better ways of dealing with them. If he yanks either of my children's collars or touches them at all inappropriately I will be seeking legal advice. And for those of you who have labelled all the children at PACA as hoodlums and criminals have you ever bothered to talk to any of them.
[quote][p][bold]Remus1996[/bold] wrote: May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA. How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are! I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair! With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS! Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much! Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh? There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army![/p][/quote]We should all be listening to these students, they are the ones who have to face this every day. I work in education and know that we are there to teach the children about all aspects of life. Not man handle them in anyway. Yes some children are challenging but as professionals there are much better ways of dealing with them. If he yanks either of my children's collars or touches them at all inappropriately I will be seeking legal advice. And for those of you who have labelled all the children at PACA as hoodlums and criminals have you ever bothered to talk to any of them. MIstified

9:36am Sat 12 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

MIstified wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Clear the trash out and give the decent kids a good education.
There are rules in the workplace and British kids seem to struggle to accept them making migrant workers more attractive employees so this head is at least giving his students a head start on entering the workplace.
If your employer treated you like Mr Fox is treating these children you would be contacting your union or a lawyer. At least as adults we have the right to protect ourselves against bullies. How does intimidating children prepare them for the workplace.
Its high time this minority miscreant thinking was purged and those supporting it were re-educated.

Rules and legislation is there to guide and protect the majority and to ensure those who have total disregard for others can be challenged and where appropriate punished, reformed and regrettably too infrequently in my opinion, have their freedom removed to protect society.

As always its the parents who are to blame and I suspect 'the sins of our fathers' will be perpetuated until firm action is taken.

Mr Fox is simply addressing issues that if the parents of these children really cared and were accountable, wouldn't need to be resolved.

Those parents on this thread who are arguing against the action taken by Mr Fox are exactly the people that need targeting for reform. You know who you are and should seek help!
[quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Clear the trash out and give the decent kids a good education. There are rules in the workplace and British kids seem to struggle to accept them making migrant workers more attractive employees so this head is at least giving his students a head start on entering the workplace.[/p][/quote]If your employer treated you like Mr Fox is treating these children you would be contacting your union or a lawyer. At least as adults we have the right to protect ourselves against bullies. How does intimidating children prepare them for the workplace.[/p][/quote]Its high time this minority miscreant thinking was purged and those supporting it were re-educated. Rules and legislation is there to guide and protect the majority and to ensure those who have total disregard for others can be challenged and where appropriate punished, reformed and regrettably too infrequently in my opinion, have their freedom removed to protect society. As always its the parents who are to blame and I suspect 'the sins of our fathers' will be perpetuated until firm action is taken. Mr Fox is simply addressing issues that if the parents of these children really cared and were accountable, wouldn't need to be resolved. Those parents on this thread who are arguing against the action taken by Mr Fox are exactly the people that need targeting for reform. You know who you are and should seek help! Somethingsarejustwrong

9:45am Sat 12 Jan 13

Mozartian says...

The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.
The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element. Mozartian

9:47am Sat 12 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

MIstified wrote:
Remus1996 wrote:
May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA.

How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are!

I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair!

With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS!

Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much!

Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh?

There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army!
We should all be listening to these students, they are the ones who have to face this every day. I work in education and know that we are there to teach the children about all aspects of life. Not man handle them in anyway. Yes some children are challenging but as professionals there are much better ways of dealing with them. If he yanks either of my children's collars or touches them at all inappropriately I will be seeking legal advice. And for those of you who have labelled all the children at PACA as hoodlums and criminals have you ever bothered to talk to any of them.
Please see my last post and if you think your children may be 'targeted' for collar pulling and, or being touched inappropriately then address the issues with your children now like any half-decent parent would.

As a parent YOU are accountable, time to step up to the mark rather than making veiled threats re action you intend to take!
[quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Remus1996[/bold] wrote: May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA. How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are! I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair! With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS! Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much! Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh? There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army![/p][/quote]We should all be listening to these students, they are the ones who have to face this every day. I work in education and know that we are there to teach the children about all aspects of life. Not man handle them in anyway. Yes some children are challenging but as professionals there are much better ways of dealing with them. If he yanks either of my children's collars or touches them at all inappropriately I will be seeking legal advice. And for those of you who have labelled all the children at PACA as hoodlums and criminals have you ever bothered to talk to any of them.[/p][/quote]Please see my last post and if you think your children may be 'targeted' for collar pulling and, or being touched inappropriately then address the issues with your children now like any half-decent parent would. As a parent YOU are accountable, time to step up to the mark rather than making veiled threats re action you intend to take! Somethingsarejustwrong

10:07am Sat 12 Jan 13

bikerjimbo says...

I note trysteros comments. I am not Rod and I do not know who he is. I do care about community issues and do know about PCA and it needs a shake which it is getting by the sound of it.
I note trysteros comments. I am not Rod and I do not know who he is. I do care about community issues and do know about PCA and it needs a shake which it is getting by the sound of it. bikerjimbo

10:18am Sat 12 Jan 13

kemptownmassive says...

Sounds like he's doing a good job. Many other schools across the world are lead by discipline and respect and churn out high class students who are greatful for a good education.

I know when I was at school I wouldn't of thought of having a drink in class as a student previously mentioned "we cant even have a drink in class"

I doubt any attempt at prosecution for not providing an education would also be futile as education is provided so long as the rules of the institution are followed.

The parents should have some common sense and actually want their children to achieve and so abide by the school rules rather than have their child grow up a delinquent individual leaving school with no prospects.

Sadly it's probably the parents that have instilled the lack of discipline/pride in their own children which has escalated down into we can do what we want.

Id like to add if many of these pupils turned up for a job interview or a to a place of professional employment everyday would they come with holes in their clothes and sit say behind a till/desk wherever wearing a coat.... no!

Some people need to get a grip and realise you need to take advantage of your education now or regret it in 10-15 years when you or your child is in some mundane job and unhappy at their prospects through your own failings.
Sounds like he's doing a good job. Many other schools across the world are lead by discipline and respect and churn out high class students who are greatful for a good education. I know when I was at school I wouldn't of thought of having a drink in class as a student previously mentioned "we cant even have a drink in class" I doubt any attempt at prosecution for not providing an education would also be futile as education is provided so long as the rules of the institution are followed. The parents should have some common sense and actually want their children to achieve and so abide by the school rules rather than have their child grow up a delinquent individual leaving school with no prospects. Sadly it's probably the parents that have instilled the lack of discipline/pride in their own children which has escalated down into we can do what we want. Id like to add if many of these pupils turned up for a job interview or a to a place of professional employment everyday would they come with holes in their clothes and sit say behind a till/desk wherever wearing a coat.... no! Some people need to get a grip and realise you need to take advantage of your education now or regret it in 10-15 years when you or your child is in some mundane job and unhappy at their prospects through your own failings. kemptownmassive

10:25am Sat 12 Jan 13

RickyTBridge says...

These changes can only be for the better. If the kids need a coat buy them a PACA MAC.......... can't complain about that can they.

Without Rules schools fail!
These changes can only be for the better. If the kids need a coat buy them a PACA MAC.......... can't complain about that can they. Without Rules schools fail! RickyTBridge

10:25am Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote: You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed. As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal. Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market. It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics. Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.
As you are a journalist, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A child is not an employee of the school and cannot, therefore, bring a claim in the employment tribunal (at which a person making a claim is an applicant, not a complainant). A claim for harassment, and negligence for that matter (the school could be negligent in denying education), can be brought in the law of tort at a county or high court, in which case the person making a claim is a claimant. The school may also be found to be in breach of its statutory obligations in relation to exclusions and expulsion. The point i was making about vicarious liability is that fox is an employee of the Aldridge Foundation. the AF is vicariously liable for the wrongdoings of its employees. Nothing at all to do with a claim in employment law. I'll do you a deal - don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to do yours
Legal1974 - would do well to deal with 'the fact' rather than building a position based on rumour and hypothesis. I am not Rod. I am just a concerned parent and tax payer with a passion for improving our once great town. This is likely to be achieved by dealing with the miscreants in the Brighton population through increased accountability and contribution. To achieve this we need to address root cause, rather than dealing with the symptoms and in my opinion these first steps in this instance are now being taken. Parents should be working with and supporting the Head not bleating petty concerns on this site.
So your child goes to this school?
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed. As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal. Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market. It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics. Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.[/p][/quote]As you are a journalist, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A child is not an employee of the school and cannot, therefore, bring a claim in the employment tribunal (at which a person making a claim is an applicant, not a complainant). A claim for harassment, and negligence for that matter (the school could be negligent in denying education), can be brought in the law of tort at a county or high court, in which case the person making a claim is a claimant. The school may also be found to be in breach of its statutory obligations in relation to exclusions and expulsion. The point i was making about vicarious liability is that fox is an employee of the Aldridge Foundation. the AF is vicariously liable for the wrongdoings of its employees. Nothing at all to do with a claim in employment law. I'll do you a deal - don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to do yours[/p][/quote]Legal1974 - would do well to deal with 'the fact' rather than building a position based on rumour and hypothesis. I am not Rod. I am just a concerned parent and tax payer with a passion for improving our once great town. This is likely to be achieved by dealing with the miscreants in the Brighton population through increased accountability and contribution. To achieve this we need to address root cause, rather than dealing with the symptoms and in my opinion these first steps in this instance are now being taken. Parents should be working with and supporting the Head not bleating petty concerns on this site.[/p][/quote]So your child goes to this school? Legal1974

10:34am Sat 12 Jan 13

nocando says...

teacher3456 wrote:
MIstified wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.
My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox
Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.
please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.
[quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.[/p][/quote]My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox[/p][/quote]Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.[/p][/quote]please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old. If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters. nocando

10:40am Sat 12 Jan 13

willy harris says...

as my last comment was not shown i dont think i will bother again.
as my last comment was not shown i dont think i will bother again. willy harris

10:40am Sat 12 Jan 13

hectic666 says...

Fudge001 wrote:
MIstified wrote:
Fudge001 wrote:
SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.
is that your real name?
No, but did you get the reference?
Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection!
I am a parent and have brought my children up to listen to others but also talk them, that they have a right to their own opinions. They are well mannered, well adjusted individuals not clones of something out of Victorian times when children were seen and not heard.
Was a comment to Simon Petrikov
I'm 100% for respect and discipline which is what is needed,but can you answer me why at lunchtime in the canteen nearly 500 children are crammed into a room that has all doors except 1 that they must enter and exit locked with chains surely this is against health and safety rules.
[quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimonPetrikov457[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimonPetrikov457[/bold] wrote: Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.[/p][/quote]is that your real name?[/p][/quote]No, but did you get the reference?[/p][/quote]Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection![/p][/quote]I am a parent and have brought my children up to listen to others but also talk them, that they have a right to their own opinions. They are well mannered, well adjusted individuals not clones of something out of Victorian times when children were seen and not heard.[/p][/quote]Was a comment to Simon Petrikov[/p][/quote]I'm 100% for respect and discipline which is what is needed,but can you answer me why at lunchtime in the canteen nearly 500 children are crammed into a room that has all doors except 1 that they must enter and exit locked with chains surely this is against health and safety rules. hectic666

10:54am Sat 12 Jan 13

hectic666 says...

nocando wrote:
1o1o1o1 wrote:
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.
Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days.
This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is.
I blame the parents.
rules are put in place for a reason, everyone knows when they started at the school the rules no nail varnish wacky hairdo's etc even the parents signed the contract,so it is children like you that dont want to listen that make it harder for those that want an education if everyone has the same attitude to learning like you im not sure how you are going to get a job because you have to be told what to do in employment and mr fox wouldn't have to spend his whole day shouting at you all and maybe he will be able to smile soon
[quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1o1o1o1[/bold] wrote: well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.[/p][/quote]Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days. This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is. I blame the parents.[/p][/quote]rules are put in place for a reason, everyone knows when they started at the school the rules no nail varnish wacky hairdo's etc even the parents signed the contract,so it is children like you that dont want to listen that make it harder for those that want an education if everyone has the same attitude to learning like you im not sure how you are going to get a job because you have to be told what to do in employment and mr fox wouldn't have to spend his whole day shouting at you all and maybe he will be able to smile soon hectic666

11:11am Sat 12 Jan 13

Dave At Home says...

Mozartian wrote:
The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.
Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say.

I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?
[quote][p][bold]Mozartian[/bold] wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.[/p][/quote]Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion? Dave At Home

11:17am Sat 12 Jan 13

mother_of_3 says...

bikerjimbo wrote:
It seems to me that the parents need to get behind the head and the governors to ensure their children achieve the standards that the head requires. I am quessing that the negative comments are from people whose standards fall below that of the head so perhaps they should also heed his approach themselves. If the students are told to alter their dress or avoid make-up etc. then this should be done and not argued about. The interesting thing will be if the school improves both on Ofsted inspections and exam results. Mr Fox please do not adopt a softer approach until you see an improvment within your academy.
exactly!!! look at the girls at the school - pulling/rolling up/shortening their skirts "because it's fashion"- it's school, not a catwalk fashion parade. so to the previous poster way back who said it's the schools fault skirts are too short, as the uniform is purchased thru the school, is talking crap. it's the girls themselves who are to blame - it's not the school's fault, the skirts are or proper length for the school's policy.
[quote][p][bold]bikerjimbo[/bold] wrote: It seems to me that the parents need to get behind the head and the governors to ensure their children achieve the standards that the head requires. I am quessing that the negative comments are from people whose standards fall below that of the head so perhaps they should also heed his approach themselves. If the students are told to alter their dress or avoid make-up etc. then this should be done and not argued about. The interesting thing will be if the school improves both on Ofsted inspections and exam results. Mr Fox please do not adopt a softer approach until you see an improvment within your academy.[/p][/quote]exactly!!! look at the girls at the school - pulling/rolling up/shortening their skirts "because it's fashion"- it's school, not a catwalk fashion parade. so to the previous poster way back who said it's the schools fault skirts are too short, as the uniform is purchased thru the school, is talking crap. it's the girls themselves who are to blame - it's not the school's fault, the skirts are or proper length for the school's policy. mother_of_3

11:35am Sat 12 Jan 13

S18..... says...

hectic666 wrote:
Fudge001 wrote:
MIstified wrote:
Fudge001 wrote:
SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.
is that your real name?
No, but did you get the reference?
Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection!
I am a parent and have brought my children up to listen to others but also talk them, that they have a right to their own opinions. They are well mannered, well adjusted individuals not clones of something out of Victorian times when children were seen and not heard.
Was a comment to Simon Petrikov
I'm 100% for respect and discipline which is what is needed,but can you answer me why at lunchtime in the canteen nearly 500 children are crammed into a room that has all doors except 1 that they must enter and exit locked with chains surely this is against health and safety rules.
For your information 1 door is locked with a chain (which is not a fire exit), 2 fire exit doors are not locked they can be opened " in a fire situation".
[quote][p][bold]hectic666[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fudge001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimonPetrikov457[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimonPetrikov457[/bold] wrote: Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.[/p][/quote]is that your real name?[/p][/quote]No, but did you get the reference?[/p][/quote]Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection![/p][/quote]I am a parent and have brought my children up to listen to others but also talk them, that they have a right to their own opinions. They are well mannered, well adjusted individuals not clones of something out of Victorian times when children were seen and not heard.[/p][/quote]Was a comment to Simon Petrikov[/p][/quote]I'm 100% for respect and discipline which is what is needed,but can you answer me why at lunchtime in the canteen nearly 500 children are crammed into a room that has all doors except 1 that they must enter and exit locked with chains surely this is against health and safety rules.[/p][/quote]For your information 1 door is locked with a chain (which is not a fire exit), 2 fire exit doors are not locked they can be opened " in a fire situation". S18.....

11:37am Sat 12 Jan 13

funkyyoyo says...

Alan G Skinner wrote:
This is the way a School should be run, rules, discipline and a quality education. We have all seen standards eroded over the years and children who are all but feral. Good. Perhaps the parents who are complaining, should have a good look at themselves and their children’s infractions, repent and improve.
here here couldnt agree more with this comment,lets hope mr fox has 8 brothers in the teaching proffesion, about time the heads took control,and the parents open there eyes
[quote][p][bold]Alan G Skinner[/bold] wrote: This is the way a School should be run, rules, discipline and a quality education. We have all seen standards eroded over the years and children who are all but feral. Good. Perhaps the parents who are complaining, should have a good look at themselves and their children’s infractions, repent and improve.[/p][/quote]here here couldnt agree more with this comment,lets hope mr fox has 8 brothers in the teaching proffesion, about time the heads took control,and the parents open there eyes funkyyoyo

11:48am Sat 12 Jan 13

nocando says...

A common factor in the posts from the parents in this thread is that they're all full of excuses, blaming everybody else and that their offspring are all polite, smart, well motivated potential oxford undergraduates.
They're all in denial, unwilling to face the fact that they've churned out the next generation of dole dossers. They strike me as a pretty ungrateful bunch, Mr Fox is quite clearly trying to give these kids a leg up in life, which is more than can be said for their parents. I despair, there really is no helping some people. And I'll bet my last fiver these folk are the loudest to complain that johnny foreigner's cleaning up in the under 25's job market. Shameful.
A common factor in the posts from the parents in this thread is that they're all full of excuses, blaming everybody else and that their offspring are all polite, smart, well motivated potential oxford undergraduates. They're all in denial, unwilling to face the fact that they've churned out the next generation of dole dossers. They strike me as a pretty ungrateful bunch, Mr Fox is quite clearly trying to give these kids a leg up in life, which is more than can be said for their parents. I despair, there really is no helping some people. And I'll bet my last fiver these folk are the loudest to complain that johnny foreigner's cleaning up in the under 25's job market. Shameful. nocando

11:52am Sat 12 Jan 13

1o1o1o1 says...

nocando wrote:
1o1o1o1 wrote:
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.
Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days.
This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is.
I blame the parents.
for your infomation its bad teaching and not bad parenting, i come from a good parenting background,but unfortantly i have learning difficulties and these days in education there is not enougth support for children with these problems, so i apoligize if my grammer is not to your standard.
[quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1o1o1o1[/bold] wrote: well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.[/p][/quote]Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days. This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is. I blame the parents.[/p][/quote]for your infomation its bad teaching and not bad parenting, i come from a good parenting background,but unfortantly i have learning difficulties and these days in education there is not enougth support for children with these problems, so i apoligize if my grammer is not to your standard. 1o1o1o1

12:01pm Sat 12 Jan 13

nocando says...

1o1o1o1 wrote:
nocando wrote:
1o1o1o1 wrote:
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.
Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days.
This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is.
I blame the parents.
for your infomation its bad teaching and not bad parenting, i come from a good parenting background,but unfortantly i have learning difficulties and these days in education there is not enougth support for children with these problems, so i apoligize if my grammer is not to your standard.
How is it bad teaching? You said yourself, you don't listen. That's what school's for mate, you need to listen and learn how to play the game. The game has rules and people who refuse to play by them end up in one place. Prison.
[quote][p][bold]1o1o1o1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1o1o1o1[/bold] wrote: well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.[/p][/quote]Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days. This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is. I blame the parents.[/p][/quote]for your infomation its bad teaching and not bad parenting, i come from a good parenting background,but unfortantly i have learning difficulties and these days in education there is not enougth support for children with these problems, so i apoligize if my grammer is not to your standard.[/p][/quote]How is it bad teaching? You said yourself, you don't listen. That's what school's for mate, you need to listen and learn how to play the game. The game has rules and people who refuse to play by them end up in one place. Prison. nocando

12:16pm Sat 12 Jan 13

1o1o1o1 says...

hectic666 wrote:
nocando wrote:
1o1o1o1 wrote:
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.
Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days.
This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is.
I blame the parents.
rules are put in place for a reason, everyone knows when they started at the school the rules no nail varnish wacky hairdo's etc even the parents signed the contract,so it is children like you that dont want to listen that make it harder for those that want an education if everyone has the same attitude to learning like you im not sure how you are going to get a job because you have to be told what to do in employment and mr fox wouldn't have to spend his whole day shouting at you all and maybe he will be able to smile soon
im doing my gcse now and i have problems as it is and i go to collage once a week also i have been passing my course so far and doing good on my gcse and teachers have been telling me that!, and what do you mean kids like me what do you think because i dont listen sometimes means im going to fail at life and i do listen im one of the kids that trys my best to work hardist thanks
[quote][p][bold]hectic666[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1o1o1o1[/bold] wrote: well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.[/p][/quote]Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days. This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is. I blame the parents.[/p][/quote]rules are put in place for a reason, everyone knows when they started at the school the rules no nail varnish wacky hairdo's etc even the parents signed the contract,so it is children like you that dont want to listen that make it harder for those that want an education if everyone has the same attitude to learning like you im not sure how you are going to get a job because you have to be told what to do in employment and mr fox wouldn't have to spend his whole day shouting at you all and maybe he will be able to smile soon[/p][/quote]im doing my gcse now and i have problems as it is and i go to collage once a week also i have been passing my course so far and doing good on my gcse and teachers have been telling me that!, and what do you mean kids like me what do you think because i dont listen sometimes means im going to fail at life and i do listen im one of the kids that trys my best to work hardist thanks 1o1o1o1

12:17pm Sat 12 Jan 13

KIS says says...

johnny_13 wrote:
I have had the dubious pleasure of meeting Mr Fox. Not in his capacity of head teacher, however in the 6th form to try and explain the reason behind my stepson being totally let down by the teaching that was gingerely offered. He asked me to email him with my complaints, specifically regarding the diminutive view I had of the support structure involved in the 6th form. I would suggest, as an educated and fairly reasoned individual, yes individual, and I affirm the statement as I have tattoo's, ride motorcycles so probably do not conform to any of his stereotypical parenting types, that this is nothing to do with Mr Fox. This is more to do with a company investing in a business model and seeing the investment not materialise in a timely fashion. Think of it per say Greg Stanley selling the Goldstone Ground to his own investment building company. If you cannot get the kids through the door, or more to the point the educational level to the correct standard needed for the government grants, you will have to foot the bill for the refurbishment single handed. Anyone who is an aggrieved parent, I fully understand your grievance, however put your money where your mouth is and collectively make a stand, get your OWN parents body together and stop waiting for an appointment. Sadly for us, with our a grade boy, it is too late and he has made other future plans. Also for those commending Mr Fox on his attitude, I would suggest you realise and understand how everything in your life is served up, waited to and delivered by very different, very individual people. Not everyone has tattoo's and not everyone is religious, and it is these individual merits that have made our great nation what it is, we have a turban wearing spin bowler beating the inventors of spin bowling in their country, and this is what we want to dictate is wrong to our future generation?????
Exactly why Mr Fox needs to raise standards. You clearly state that your child had been let down by the teaching. Hopefully Mr Fox will look at teachers too
[quote][p][bold]johnny_13[/bold] wrote: I have had the dubious pleasure of meeting Mr Fox. Not in his capacity of head teacher, however in the 6th form to try and explain the reason behind my stepson being totally let down by the teaching that was gingerely offered. He asked me to email him with my complaints, specifically regarding the diminutive view I had of the support structure involved in the 6th form. I would suggest, as an educated and fairly reasoned individual, yes individual, and I affirm the statement as I have tattoo's, ride motorcycles so probably do not conform to any of his stereotypical parenting types, that this is nothing to do with Mr Fox. This is more to do with a company investing in a business model and seeing the investment not materialise in a timely fashion. Think of it per say Greg Stanley selling the Goldstone Ground to his own investment building company. If you cannot get the kids through the door, or more to the point the educational level to the correct standard needed for the government grants, you will have to foot the bill for the refurbishment single handed. Anyone who is an aggrieved parent, I fully understand your grievance, however put your money where your mouth is and collectively make a stand, get your OWN parents body together and stop waiting for an appointment. Sadly for us, with our a grade boy, it is too late and he has made other future plans. Also for those commending Mr Fox on his attitude, I would suggest you realise and understand how everything in your life is served up, waited to and delivered by very different, very individual people. Not everyone has tattoo's and not everyone is religious, and it is these individual merits that have made our great nation what it is, we have a turban wearing spin bowler beating the inventors of spin bowling in their country, and this is what we want to dictate is wrong to our future generation?????[/p][/quote]Exactly why Mr Fox needs to raise standards. You clearly state that your child had been let down by the teaching. Hopefully Mr Fox will look at teachers too KIS says

12:29pm Sat 12 Jan 13

trystero says...

funkyyoyo wrote:
Alan G Skinner wrote:
This is the way a School should be run, rules, discipline and a quality education. We have all seen standards eroded over the years and children who are all but feral. Good. Perhaps the parents who are complaining, should have a good look at themselves and their children’s infractions, repent and improve.
here here couldnt agree more with this comment,lets hope mr fox has 8 brothers in the teaching proffesion, about time the heads took control,and the parents open there eyes
"We have all seen standards eroded over the years...."

E.g. "here here" (sic.); "lets hope mr fox" (sic.); "proffesion" (sic.); "open there eyes" (sic.).
[quote][p][bold]funkyyoyo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan G Skinner[/bold] wrote: This is the way a School should be run, rules, discipline and a quality education. We have all seen standards eroded over the years and children who are all but feral. Good. Perhaps the parents who are complaining, should have a good look at themselves and their children’s infractions, repent and improve.[/p][/quote]here here couldnt agree more with this comment,lets hope mr fox has 8 brothers in the teaching proffesion, about time the heads took control,and the parents open there eyes[/p][/quote]"We have all seen standards eroded over the years...." E.g. "here here" (sic.); "lets hope mr fox" (sic.); "proffesion" (sic.); "open there eyes" (sic.). trystero

12:33pm Sat 12 Jan 13

darkasnight1 says...

just-a-person wrote:
S18..... wrote:
darkasnight1 wrote:
If the skirts are too short then its the schools fault as we have to buy the uniform from PACA,and just for the record my child leaves the house smart at all times "No flesh on show,No make up,and a very understated hairstyle" she was still stopped on the gate and accused of having false nails."NO" just clean and nicely shaped,and accused of having extreme hair,a eyebrow length straight fringe,Extreme is it ?? Well that must make me a social outcast !!!! This is just a ordinary secondary school and most of the children are being stopped even ones with a hole in their tights or trousers,we cannot afford the school uniform riddiculous prices to replace as often as liked as ALL uniform is bought through PACA...
It is a well known fact that some of the girls roll their skirts from the waist to make the skirt shorter. If this is not the case and the skirt is too short, then maybe a longer one should he been purchased in the begining as you can buy them in different lengths.
How expensive is the uniform ? My daughter used to leave the house and between that and getting to school rolled her skirt up as the other person said. I would say that the uniform was a very reasonable price and actually worked out cheaper than the old uniforms some still have in place.
Uniform COMPULSORY Junior Sizes Price Senior Sizes Price
Colchester Jacket 26″- 36″ £25 38″ – 52″ £27
Colchester Trousers 24/23 – 28/30 £12 30/29 – 40/33 £14
Colchester Skirt 20/18 – 28/22 £12 30/20 – 40/22 £14
Tie N/A £3.50 N/A
3.50
Uniform OPTIONAL
Jumper 26″- 36″ £17 38″ – 46″ £18

Nowhere does it sell skirts in different lengths,and before the uniform change my child would always wear trousers but the uniform trousers fit appallingly,my childs uniform is always appropriate and always tidy,she doesn't even have her ears pierced,she is well liked by staff and pupils,The reason I complain about PACA is that the underlying problems are not being addressed if they need to stop outside eating then the lunchbreak will need to be staggered to allow space and time for everyone to eat,Or to build another lunch area,how do you fit 800+ pupils into a room for 200 max,I have attended parents eve in there and it was unpleasantly cramped,and too loud infact to be honest it made me feel ill,imagine what it feels like to a child trying to eat. This is just battery farming of our children,and its wrong. These children do not deserve this workers have unions if things are unfair some people are posting as if all these children are delinquents or tearaways and law breakers they are not all that way,some only attend that school as parents like myself have no car to take them further, I agree there are issues there that need to be dealt with but teaching our children that they should just be subservient is not the way to go about it. I have had children attend PCC who went onto university studying law and philosophy,I have another child attending that wanted to teach but who has asked to leave and be home-schooled and to have private tuition. Which may be a option,we are looking into it,We are not a benefit scrounging family,my husband works at a local school himself,so please dont tar everyone with the same brush there are so many more issues to this than most people can see,and I am sure Mr Fox could be very good for the school in time,but currently he has not been assigned the headmaster job on a permanent basis he is only a interim head until another is found so then i expect different rules will come along again,These children just need to know where they stand and for the rules to remain the same and be consistent and to stop changing with no notice.
Maybe Mr Fox should escort the children home down valley road and stop some of the herberts from being rude and uncourteous or smoking and swearing as he says that while they are in uniform they are the schools responsibility maybe he should walk them all home in single file or maybe they should be marched !!! Does not sound practical does it,We need someone fair and strict who will earn the children's respect and make them proud of their school and their surroundings,Maybe if the disciplinary measures was disciplining for the right reasons then maybe their would be more respect small issues should be dealt with by lines/essays like in my day,larger issues rudeness etc=detention,seriou
s issues=suspension or expulsion dependent on the circumstance.
So you see I would be quite willing to back this school if it was not letting us down on so many things.
And please stop insulting these children some of them are just trying to put their view across,they do not need to be told to put up or shut up,or to be told they will end up in prison as someone stated earlier. Help the school and it will help the community respect is a 2 way street.
[quote][p][bold]just-a-person[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S18.....[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darkasnight1[/bold] wrote: If the skirts are too short then its the schools fault as we have to buy the uniform from PACA,and just for the record my child leaves the house smart at all times "No flesh on show,No make up,and a very understated hairstyle" she was still stopped on the gate and accused of having false nails."NO" just clean and nicely shaped,and accused of having extreme hair,a eyebrow length straight fringe,Extreme is it ?? Well that must make me a social outcast !!!! This is just a ordinary secondary school and most of the children are being stopped even ones with a hole in their tights or trousers,we cannot afford the school uniform riddiculous prices to replace as often as liked as ALL uniform is bought through PACA...[/p][/quote]It is a well known fact that some of the girls roll their skirts from the waist to make the skirt shorter. If this is not the case and the skirt is too short, then maybe a longer one should he been purchased in the begining as you can buy them in different lengths.[/p][/quote]How expensive is the uniform ? My daughter used to leave the house and between that and getting to school rolled her skirt up as the other person said. I would say that the uniform was a very reasonable price and actually worked out cheaper than the old uniforms some still have in place.[/p][/quote]Uniform COMPULSORY Junior Sizes Price Senior Sizes Price Colchester Jacket 26″- 36″ £25 38″ – 52″ £27 Colchester Trousers 24/23 – 28/30 £12 30/29 – 40/33 £14 Colchester Skirt 20/18 – 28/22 £12 30/20 – 40/22 £14 Tie N/A £3.50 N/A 3.50 Uniform OPTIONAL Jumper 26″- 36″ £17 38″ – 46″ £18 Nowhere does it sell skirts in different lengths,and before the uniform change my child would always wear trousers but the uniform trousers fit appallingly,my childs uniform is always appropriate and always tidy,she doesn't even have her ears pierced,she is well liked by staff and pupils,The reason I complain about PACA is that the underlying problems are not being addressed if they need to stop outside eating then the lunchbreak will need to be staggered to allow space and time for everyone to eat,Or to build another lunch area,how do you fit 800+ pupils into a room for 200 max,I have attended parents eve in there and it was unpleasantly cramped,and too loud infact to be honest it made me feel ill,imagine what it feels like to a child trying to eat. This is just battery farming of our children,and its wrong. These children do not deserve this workers have unions if things are unfair some people are posting as if all these children are delinquents or tearaways and law breakers they are not all that way,some only attend that school as parents like myself have no car to take them further, I agree there are issues there that need to be dealt with but teaching our children that they should just be subservient is not the way to go about it. I have had children attend PCC who went onto university studying law and philosophy,I have another child attending that wanted to teach but who has asked to leave and be home-schooled and to have private tuition. Which may be a option,we are looking into it,We are not a benefit scrounging family,my husband works at a local school himself,so please dont tar everyone with the same brush there are so many more issues to this than most people can see,and I am sure Mr Fox could be very good for the school in time,but currently he has not been assigned the headmaster job on a permanent basis he is only a interim head until another is found so then i expect different rules will come along again,These children just need to know where they stand and for the rules to remain the same and be consistent and to stop changing with no notice. Maybe Mr Fox should escort the children home down valley road and stop some of the herberts from being rude and uncourteous or smoking and swearing as he says that while they are in uniform they are the schools responsibility maybe he should walk them all home in single file or maybe they should be marched !!! Does not sound practical does it,We need someone fair and strict who will earn the children's respect and make them proud of their school and their surroundings,Maybe if the disciplinary measures was disciplining for the right reasons then maybe their would be more respect small issues should be dealt with by lines/essays like in my day,larger issues rudeness etc=detention,seriou s issues=suspension or expulsion dependent on the circumstance. So you see I would be quite willing to back this school if it was not letting us down on so many things. And please stop insulting these children some of them are just trying to put their view across,they do not need to be told to put up or shut up,or to be told they will end up in prison as someone stated earlier. Help the school and it will help the community respect is a 2 way street. darkasnight1

12:35pm Sat 12 Jan 13

trystero says...

kemptownmassive wrote:
Sounds like he's doing a good job. Many other schools across the world are lead by discipline and respect and churn out high class students who are greatful for a good education.

I know when I was at school I wouldn't of thought of having a drink in class as a student previously mentioned "we cant even have a drink in class"

I doubt any attempt at prosecution for not providing an education would also be futile as education is provided so long as the rules of the institution are followed.

The parents should have some common sense and actually want their children to achieve and so abide by the school rules rather than have their child grow up a delinquent individual leaving school with no prospects.

Sadly it's probably the parents that have instilled the lack of discipline/pride in their own children which has escalated down into we can do what we want.

Id like to add if many of these pupils turned up for a job interview or a to a place of professional employment everyday would they come with holes in their clothes and sit say behind a till/desk wherever wearing a coat.... no!

Some people need to get a grip and realise you need to take advantage of your education now or regret it in 10-15 years when you or your child is in some mundane job and unhappy at their prospects through your own failings.
Some of the benefits of "a good education" on display here: "are lead by discipline" (sic.); "greatful" (sic.); "I wouldn't of thought" (sic.); "cant even have" (sic.); "escalated down" (sic.); "Id like to add" (sic.).
[quote][p][bold]kemptownmassive[/bold] wrote: Sounds like he's doing a good job. Many other schools across the world are lead by discipline and respect and churn out high class students who are greatful for a good education. I know when I was at school I wouldn't of thought of having a drink in class as a student previously mentioned "we cant even have a drink in class" I doubt any attempt at prosecution for not providing an education would also be futile as education is provided so long as the rules of the institution are followed. The parents should have some common sense and actually want their children to achieve and so abide by the school rules rather than have their child grow up a delinquent individual leaving school with no prospects. Sadly it's probably the parents that have instilled the lack of discipline/pride in their own children which has escalated down into we can do what we want. Id like to add if many of these pupils turned up for a job interview or a to a place of professional employment everyday would they come with holes in their clothes and sit say behind a till/desk wherever wearing a coat.... no! Some people need to get a grip and realise you need to take advantage of your education now or regret it in 10-15 years when you or your child is in some mundane job and unhappy at their prospects through your own failings.[/p][/quote]Some of the benefits of "a good education" on display here: "are lead by discipline" (sic.); "greatful" (sic.); "I wouldn't of thought" (sic.); "cant even have" (sic.); "escalated down" (sic.); "Id like to add" (sic.). trystero

12:38pm Sat 12 Jan 13

KIS says says...

Mr McLaughlin tried the friendly approach with behaviour - it didn't work, as clarified in the recent Ofsted report.

Children rebel against authority, it is what kids do, mine no exception. Discipline is on going and must be learnt, and it will eventually turn into respect for others. Respect is a skill that an individual learns. It will set you up for life. When I go into a meeting at work, I wouldn't ever interrupt a senior manager talking.

My son complains his lessons are interrupted by disruptive behaviour by a minority of children. These kids do NOT listen to the teacher. Why should these kids be allowed to get away with this behaviour, spoiling other children's opportunities for learning. Kids need consequences. I feel strongly that the consequences should be fair and clear. Mr Fox should carry an 'air of fear/authority' he is the HEADTEACHER..

Although there are a high number of posts on here, the majority are from the same people with children at the school, so not really a true reflection of all the unhappy parents. My friends with kids at the school are encouraged that something appears to be being done to raise standards.
Mr McLaughlin tried the friendly approach with behaviour - it didn't work, as clarified in the recent Ofsted report. Children rebel against authority, it is what kids do, mine no exception. Discipline is on going and must be learnt, and it will eventually turn into respect for others. Respect is a skill that an individual learns. It will set you up for life. When I go into a meeting at work, I wouldn't ever interrupt a senior manager talking. My son complains his lessons are interrupted by disruptive behaviour by a minority of children. These kids do NOT listen to the teacher. Why should these kids be allowed to get away with this behaviour, spoiling other children's opportunities for learning. Kids need consequences. I feel strongly that the consequences should be fair and clear. Mr Fox should carry an 'air of fear/authority' he is the HEADTEACHER.. Although there are a high number of posts on here, the majority are from the same people with children at the school, so not really a true reflection of all the unhappy parents. My friends with kids at the school are encouraged that something appears to be being done to raise standards. KIS says

12:39pm Sat 12 Jan 13

BrazCubas says...

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work.
As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble.
Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work. As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves. It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble. Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people? BrazCubas

12:42pm Sat 12 Jan 13

trystero says...

"Uniform COMPULSORY Junior Sizes Price Senior Sizes Price
"Colchester Jacket 26″- 36″ £25 38″ – 52″ £27
Colchester Trousers 24/23 – 28/30 £12 30/29 – 40/33 £14
Colchester Skirt 20/18 – 28/22 £12 30/20 – 40/22 £14...."

An interesting list - particularly in comparison with prices for such standard-issue items at supermarkets such as Asda or Tesco. Is the "Colchester" prefix/brandname by any chance owned by (or in "partnership" with) Aldridge Academies?
"Uniform COMPULSORY Junior Sizes Price Senior Sizes Price "Colchester Jacket 26″- 36″ £25 38″ – 52″ £27 Colchester Trousers 24/23 – 28/30 £12 30/29 – 40/33 £14 Colchester Skirt 20/18 – 28/22 £12 30/20 – 40/22 £14...." An interesting list - particularly in comparison with prices for such standard-issue items at supermarkets such as Asda or Tesco. Is the "Colchester" prefix/brandname by any chance owned by (or in "partnership" with) Aldridge Academies? trystero

12:57pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.
Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business. Mrs Newcastle

1:00pm Sat 12 Jan 13

trystero says...

daz0601 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Good on you Mr Fox, keep up the good work. What we need is an increase in petty rules. We need to crush creativity, as the children from this accademy should be prepared to be worker drones uncondtionally accepting the petty rules of future employers.

I hope that you extend this to the families; fathers should where ties at all times and mothers should not wear skirts that are too short. They should be checked for cleanliness and tidyness. Slovenly parenting is just simply unacceptable.
These rules are nothing to do with employing petty rules its about teaching kids right from wrong,children in this country on a whole at that age are unruley and have no respect for elders or rules,when i grew up u was scared of ur local bobbie on the beat or ur head master now the kids just tell them to f off and we as adults are to scared to punish for worry about reprisal,its about time someone got a grip
Among the benefits of education "when i (sic.) grew up": "its about teaching kids" (sic.); "unruley" (sic.); "u was scared of ur local bobbie" (sic.); "ur head master" (sic.); "its about time" (sic.).
[quote][p][bold]daz0601[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Good on you Mr Fox, keep up the good work. What we need is an increase in petty rules. We need to crush creativity, as the children from this accademy should be prepared to be worker drones uncondtionally accepting the petty rules of future employers. I hope that you extend this to the families; fathers should where ties at all times and mothers should not wear skirts that are too short. They should be checked for cleanliness and tidyness. Slovenly parenting is just simply unacceptable.[/p][/quote]These rules are nothing to do with employing petty rules its about teaching kids right from wrong,children in this country on a whole at that age are unruley and have no respect for elders or rules,when i grew up u was scared of ur local bobbie on the beat or ur head master now the kids just tell them to f off and we as adults are to scared to punish for worry about reprisal,its about time someone got a grip[/p][/quote]Among the benefits of education "when i (sic.) grew up": "its about teaching kids" (sic.); "unruley" (sic.); "u was scared of ur local bobbie" (sic.); "ur head master" (sic.); "its about time" (sic.). trystero

1:07pm Sat 12 Jan 13

lillylou says...

Peacehaven seniors is the same girls turning up with false eyelashes plasters in makeup and of course miss sexy trousers over the top coloured hair that head mistress doing nothing, it's to much pressure for girls to be dressing up for school that's for afterschool !!!
Peacehaven seniors is the same girls turning up with false eyelashes plasters in makeup and of course miss sexy trousers over the top coloured hair that head mistress doing nothing, it's to much pressure for girls to be dressing up for school that's for afterschool !!! lillylou

1:09pm Sat 12 Jan 13

StevieD says...

Indigatio wrote:
Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.
Absolutley right.
[quote][p][bold]Indigatio[/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.[/p][/quote]Absolutley right. StevieD

1:12pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

BrazCubas wrote:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work.
As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble.
Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?
Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.
[quote][p][bold]BrazCubas[/bold] wrote: I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work. As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves. It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble. Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?[/p][/quote]Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person. Mrs Newcastle

1:18pm Sat 12 Jan 13

mother_of_3 says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.
School is a place of LEARNING, not a place to mess around at. That school needed someone like Mr Fox when my daughter attended from 2010 to last summer due to bullying by students at that hellhole. Mr M was never reachable, the board of governors didn't give a ****; our complaints were passed on to Mr Robinson. Had Mr Fox been head when my daughter were there, the bullies would not have got away with it. That school is crap. Oh and btw, I also have my sister-in-law working at the hellhole.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.[/p][/quote]School is a place of LEARNING, not a place to mess around at. That school needed someone like Mr Fox when my daughter attended from 2010 to last summer due to bullying by students at that hellhole. Mr M was never reachable, the board of governors didn't give a ****; our complaints were passed on to Mr Robinson. Had Mr Fox been head when my daughter were there, the bullies would not have got away with it. That school is crap. Oh and btw, I also have my sister-in-law working at the hellhole. mother_of_3

1:21pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
BrazCubas wrote:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work.
As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble.
Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?
Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.
I sorry that as a child you did not have parents who gave you love and time and encouragement in growth of you creativity because maybe you would not have to use others to meet your high control needs.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BrazCubas[/bold] wrote: I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work. As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves. It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble. Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?[/p][/quote]Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.[/p][/quote]I sorry that as a child you did not have parents who gave you love and time and encouragement in growth of you creativity because maybe you would not have to use others to meet your high control needs. Mrs Newcastle

1:21pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Chieftain11 says...

Indigatio wrote:
Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.
I support that view completely. It was nothing other than a training ground for yobs. Failure to support this interim headteacher will result in a rapid return to the old ways overnight.
[quote][p][bold]Indigatio[/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.[/p][/quote]I support that view completely. It was nothing other than a training ground for yobs. Failure to support this interim headteacher will result in a rapid return to the old ways overnight. Chieftain11

1:22pm Sat 12 Jan 13

mother_of_3 says...

StevieD wrote:
Indigatio wrote:
Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.
Absolutley right.
Exactly. More like him definitely needed. If PACA was such an awesome school to begin with, then it would not have been turned into an academy!!!
[quote][p][bold]StevieD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Indigatio[/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.[/p][/quote]Absolutley right.[/p][/quote]Exactly. More like him definitely needed. If PACA was such an awesome school to begin with, then it would not have been turned into an academy!!! mother_of_3

1:24pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
BrazCubas wrote:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work.
As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble.
Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?
Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.
Feels to me like many of the kids who have parents commenting on this thread against Mr Fox and his approach, are preparing their offspring for a life of under achievement and or failure.

Those people may wish to consider the government's present initiatives to reduce and ultimately remove benefits from the 'won't do' population. The benefits gravy train is nearing the end of the track and will soon arrive at the final destination station 'You Have To Work For It'.

Those of us who do care and contribute very much look forward to welcoming the rest of you to reality!
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BrazCubas[/bold] wrote: I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work. As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves. It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble. Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?[/p][/quote]Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.[/p][/quote]Feels to me like many of the kids who have parents commenting on this thread against Mr Fox and his approach, are preparing their offspring for a life of under achievement and or failure. Those people may wish to consider the government's present initiatives to reduce and ultimately remove benefits from the 'won't do' population. The benefits gravy train is nearing the end of the track and will soon arrive at the final destination station 'You Have To Work For It'. Those of us who do care and contribute very much look forward to welcoming the rest of you to reality! Somethingsarejustwrong

1:25pm Sat 12 Jan 13

mother_of_3 says...

Chieftain11 wrote:
Indigatio wrote:
Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.
I support that view completely. It was nothing other than a training ground for yobs. Failure to support this interim headteacher will result in a rapid return to the old ways overnight.
That's why thugs and bullies get away with it - LACK OF CONTROL!!!
[quote][p][bold]Chieftain11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Indigatio[/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.[/p][/quote]I support that view completely. It was nothing other than a training ground for yobs. Failure to support this interim headteacher will result in a rapid return to the old ways overnight.[/p][/quote]That's why thugs and bullies get away with it - LACK OF CONTROL!!! mother_of_3

1:27pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

mother_of_3 wrote:
Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.
School is a place of LEARNING, not a place to mess around at. That school needed someone like Mr Fox when my daughter attended from 2010 to last summer due to bullying by students at that hellhole. Mr M was never reachable, the board of governors didn't give a ****; our complaints were passed on to Mr Robinson. Had Mr Fox been head when my daughter were there, the bullies would not have got away with it. That school is crap. Oh and btw, I also have my sister-in-law working at the hellhole.
I am a teacher and my students in my art class have fun every day doing their work.
[quote][p][bold]mother_of_3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.[/p][/quote]School is a place of LEARNING, not a place to mess around at. That school needed someone like Mr Fox when my daughter attended from 2010 to last summer due to bullying by students at that hellhole. Mr M was never reachable, the board of governors didn't give a ****; our complaints were passed on to Mr Robinson. Had Mr Fox been head when my daughter were there, the bullies would not have got away with it. That school is crap. Oh and btw, I also have my sister-in-law working at the hellhole.[/p][/quote]I am a teacher and my students in my art class have fun every day doing their work. Mrs Newcastle

1:32pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
mother_of_3 wrote:
Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.
School is a place of LEARNING, not a place to mess around at. That school needed someone like Mr Fox when my daughter attended from 2010 to last summer due to bullying by students at that hellhole. Mr M was never reachable, the board of governors didn't give a ****; our complaints were passed on to Mr Robinson. Had Mr Fox been head when my daughter were there, the bullies would not have got away with it. That school is crap. Oh and btw, I also have my sister-in-law working at the hellhole.
I am a teacher and my students in my art class have fun every day doing their work.
If your comments are based on any element of truth (I suspect they are not) then its teachers like you that fail our younger generations. Its frankly about time that under performing teachers are identified and performance managed out of their roles.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mother_of_3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.[/p][/quote]School is a place of LEARNING, not a place to mess around at. That school needed someone like Mr Fox when my daughter attended from 2010 to last summer due to bullying by students at that hellhole. Mr M was never reachable, the board of governors didn't give a ****; our complaints were passed on to Mr Robinson. Had Mr Fox been head when my daughter were there, the bullies would not have got away with it. That school is crap. Oh and btw, I also have my sister-in-law working at the hellhole.[/p][/quote]I am a teacher and my students in my art class have fun every day doing their work.[/p][/quote]If your comments are based on any element of truth (I suspect they are not) then its teachers like you that fail our younger generations. Its frankly about time that under performing teachers are identified and performance managed out of their roles. Somethingsarejustwrong

1:34pm Sat 12 Jan 13

BrazCubas says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Mrs Newcastle wrote:
BrazCubas wrote:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work.
As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble.
Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?
Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.
I sorry that as a child you did not have parents who gave you love and time and encouragement in growth of you creativity because maybe you would not have to use others to meet your high control needs.
I don't know where to start in addressing your hilarious and wildly inaccurate assumptions about me, Mrs Newcastle, so I won't bother.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BrazCubas[/bold] wrote: I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work. As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves. It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble. Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?[/p][/quote]Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.[/p][/quote]I sorry that as a child you did not have parents who gave you love and time and encouragement in growth of you creativity because maybe you would not have to use others to meet your high control needs.[/p][/quote]I don't know where to start in addressing your hilarious and wildly inaccurate assumptions about me, Mrs Newcastle, so I won't bother. BrazCubas

1:39pm Sat 12 Jan 13

GeorgeOrwell says...

What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered:

• Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results?
• Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite?
• Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen?
• And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school.

When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings.

As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.
What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered: • Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results? • Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite? • Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen? • And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school. When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings. As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process. GeorgeOrwell

1:42pm Sat 12 Jan 13

trystero says...

GeorgeOrwell wrote:
What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered:

• Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results?
• Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite?
• Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen?
• And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school.

When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings.

As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.
Exactly!
[quote][p][bold]GeorgeOrwell[/bold] wrote: What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered: • Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results? • Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite? • Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen? • And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school. When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings. As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.[/p][/quote]Exactly! trystero

1:44pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Dave At Home wrote:
Mozartian wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.
Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?
Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated.

As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours.

Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.
[quote][p][bold]Dave At Home[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mozartian[/bold] wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.[/p][/quote]Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?[/p][/quote]Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless. Legal1974

1:45pm Sat 12 Jan 13

concernedmother1 says...

trystero wrote:
GeorgeOrwell wrote:
What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered:

• Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results?
• Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite?
• Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen?
• And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school.

When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings.

As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.
Exactly!
totally agree. Why would somebody want a legal agreement to keep his previous suspension hush hush if it isnt anything to worry about?
[quote][p][bold]trystero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GeorgeOrwell[/bold] wrote: What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered: • Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results? • Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite? • Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen? • And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school. When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings. As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.[/p][/quote]Exactly![/p][/quote]totally agree. Why would somebody want a legal agreement to keep his previous suspension hush hush if it isnt anything to worry about? concernedmother1

1:47pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Mayan Turkey says...

The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children.

The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food?
The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing.

Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing.

Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point.

Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'.

It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.
The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children. The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food? The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing. Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing. Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point. Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'. It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve. Mayan Turkey

1:50pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

BrazCubas wrote:
Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Mrs Newcastle wrote:
BrazCubas wrote:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work.
As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble.
Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?
Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.
I sorry that as a child you did not have parents who gave you love and time and encouragement in growth of you creativity because maybe you would not have to use others to meet your high control needs.
I don't know where to start in addressing your hilarious and wildly inaccurate assumptions about me, Mrs Newcastle, so I won't bother.
Did you know that many Autistic people go to work as teachers in schools. they get used to hiding their condition and use their high intelligence to do so, they struggle with close relationships with others. sometimes they become head teachers insisting on rules but lacking the ability to put them selves in the shoes of others and are unaware how following such rules may seem harsh and cruel to the students and teachers they try to oppose them on. My Husband was this person.
[quote][p][bold]BrazCubas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BrazCubas[/bold] wrote: I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work. As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves. It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble. Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?[/p][/quote]Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.[/p][/quote]I sorry that as a child you did not have parents who gave you love and time and encouragement in growth of you creativity because maybe you would not have to use others to meet your high control needs.[/p][/quote]I don't know where to start in addressing your hilarious and wildly inaccurate assumptions about me, Mrs Newcastle, so I won't bother.[/p][/quote]Did you know that many Autistic people go to work as teachers in schools. they get used to hiding their condition and use their high intelligence to do so, they struggle with close relationships with others. sometimes they become head teachers insisting on rules but lacking the ability to put them selves in the shoes of others and are unaware how following such rules may seem harsh and cruel to the students and teachers they try to oppose them on. My Husband was this person. Mrs Newcastle

2:03pm Sat 12 Jan 13

HJarrs says...

Mayan Turkey wrote:
The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children.

The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food?
The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing.

Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing.

Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point.

Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'.

It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.
I rather think that it is the concentration on easy, surface issues like petty uniform rules etc that contributes to the problems you describe. There is also a concentration league tables and jumping through hoops of attaining qualifications and I fear that learning suffers for simple headlines of exam success. I want people coming out of schools and colleges with a thirst for learning, not put off for life.

Treat children in a constant parental manner as seems to be described in the article (and supported by some posters) and they will react like children. The most influential teachers for me were the those that engaged me as a person.
[quote][p][bold]Mayan Turkey[/bold] wrote: The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children. The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food? The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing. Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing. Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point. Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'. It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.[/p][/quote]I rather think that it is the concentration on easy, surface issues like petty uniform rules etc that contributes to the problems you describe. There is also a concentration league tables and jumping through hoops of attaining qualifications and I fear that learning suffers for simple headlines of exam success. I want people coming out of schools and colleges with a thirst for learning, not put off for life. Treat children in a constant parental manner as seems to be described in the article (and supported by some posters) and they will react like children. The most influential teachers for me were the those that engaged me as a person. HJarrs

2:07pm Sat 12 Jan 13

hubby says...

Legal1974 wrote:
hubby wrote:
Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.
The majority of the pupils we are talking about are not bad children, nor are the parents or teachers. This is about unreasonable disciplinary measures interrupting the pupils' education during important GCSE studies and exams by a bully who has gone about this in an entirely incorrect manner and is not leading by example. You have obviously not been keeping up with the comments on here. Your comment is completely irrelevant to the issues so I suggest you just keep your pointless opinions to yourself.
So we agree that this headmaster is a bad role model?
Which in turn encourages his pupils to rebel and behave badly?
These children were presumably not born this way?

Only bullies try to steamroller other peoples opinions.

I worked for many years in the probation service.Often my duties involved me with the Youth Offending Team.
I am now teaching.
Children and young adults respond best to fairness and understanding.
They hate being talked down to and being given "orders" for the sake of it.
Every child is an individual and should be treated as such.
For some the "iron fist" may work.Others need the "velvet glove".
If you try to treat a group of individuals with their own thoughts and opinions exactly the same then you will always get problems.
Who is in charge of pastoral care at the school?
Who is listening to what the pupils are saying?
In my experience the freshest and most sensible ideas come from the pupils rather than the staff.
[quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.[/p][/quote]The majority of the pupils we are talking about are not bad children, nor are the parents or teachers. This is about unreasonable disciplinary measures interrupting the pupils' education during important GCSE studies and exams by a bully who has gone about this in an entirely incorrect manner and is not leading by example. You have obviously not been keeping up with the comments on here. Your comment is completely irrelevant to the issues so I suggest you just keep your pointless opinions to yourself.[/p][/quote]So we agree that this headmaster is a bad role model? Which in turn encourages his pupils to rebel and behave badly? These children were presumably not born this way? Only bullies try to steamroller other peoples opinions. I worked for many years in the probation service.Often my duties involved me with the Youth Offending Team. I am now teaching. Children and young adults respond best to fairness and understanding. They hate being talked down to and being given "orders" for the sake of it. Every child is an individual and should be treated as such. For some the "iron fist" may work.Others need the "velvet glove". If you try to treat a group of individuals with their own thoughts and opinions exactly the same then you will always get problems. Who is in charge of pastoral care at the school? Who is listening to what the pupils are saying? In my experience the freshest and most sensible ideas come from the pupils rather than the staff. hubby

2:09pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

Legal1974 wrote:
Dave At Home wrote:
Mozartian wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.
Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?
Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated.

As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours.

Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.
Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself.
pleease goo and gget some thearpy love.

i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.
[quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave At Home[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mozartian[/bold] wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.[/p][/quote]Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?[/p][/quote]Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.[/p][/quote]Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being. Mrs Newcastle

2:25pm Sat 12 Jan 13

davyboy says...

Ballroom Blitz wrote:
We need more heads like him. The article clearly states that all pupils in question were given the option to conform to his standards. Some refused. They are children. They need to learn to do as they are told. He did the right thing.
Who is running the school, after all.
Couldn't agree more.
[quote][p][bold]Ballroom Blitz[/bold] wrote: We need more heads like him. The article clearly states that all pupils in question were given the option to conform to his standards. Some refused. They are children. They need to learn to do as they are told. He did the right thing. Who is running the school, after all.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. davyboy

2:51pm Sat 12 Jan 13

mother_of_3 says...

Mayan Turkey wrote:
The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children.

The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food?
The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing.

Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing.

Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point.

Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'.

It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.
what does your post have to do with a FAILING school being given a HEAD TEACHER who will take no cr*p and DEAL with it???? answer, NOTHING!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Mayan Turkey[/bold] wrote: The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children. The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food? The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing. Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing. Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point. Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'. It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.[/p][/quote]what does your post have to do with a FAILING school being given a HEAD TEACHER who will take no cr*p and DEAL with it???? answer, NOTHING!!!! mother_of_3

2:53pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Mrs Newcastle says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Mrs Newcastle wrote:
mother_of_3 wrote:
Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.
School is a place of LEARNING, not a place to mess around at. That school needed someone like Mr Fox when my daughter attended from 2010 to last summer due to bullying by students at that hellhole. Mr M was never reachable, the board of governors didn't give a ****; our complaints were passed on to Mr Robinson. Had Mr Fox been head when my daughter were there, the bullies would not have got away with it. That school is crap. Oh and btw, I also have my sister-in-law working at the hellhole.
I am a teacher and my students in my art class have fun every day doing their work.
If your comments are based on any element of truth (I suspect they are not) then its teachers like you that fail our younger generations. Its frankly about time that under performing teachers are identified and performance managed out of their roles.
Are you assuming that I teach children in a state school? or something like that. Anyway when i am looking for staff to employ or students for my course. I look for people who can think for themselves and people who have learnt to learn for themselves. That's what i do as a teacher , i teach others to learn for themselves. I have been their all 11 years of it with bullying and exclusions and teachers , governors, LEA who were just out for themselves. and what does not kill you makes you stronger!!!
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mother_of_3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.[/p][/quote]School is a place of LEARNING, not a place to mess around at. That school needed someone like Mr Fox when my daughter attended from 2010 to last summer due to bullying by students at that hellhole. Mr M was never reachable, the board of governors didn't give a ****; our complaints were passed on to Mr Robinson. Had Mr Fox been head when my daughter were there, the bullies would not have got away with it. That school is crap. Oh and btw, I also have my sister-in-law working at the hellhole.[/p][/quote]I am a teacher and my students in my art class have fun every day doing their work.[/p][/quote]If your comments are based on any element of truth (I suspect they are not) then its teachers like you that fail our younger generations. Its frankly about time that under performing teachers are identified and performance managed out of their roles.[/p][/quote]Are you assuming that I teach children in a state school? or something like that. Anyway when i am looking for staff to employ or students for my course. I look for people who can think for themselves and people who have learnt to learn for themselves. That's what i do as a teacher , i teach others to learn for themselves. I have been their all 11 years of it with bullying and exclusions and teachers , governors, LEA who were just out for themselves. and what does not kill you makes you stronger!!! Mrs Newcastle

2:55pm Sat 12 Jan 13

MuammarQaddafi says...

poppet wrote:
Can people please remember before they comment that this is a normal school we are talking about, its not a Young Offenders Institute, but that is how most parents see their children being treated. There are scores of kids that have never been in trouble and are what would be seen as "good kids" not terrified to go into school incase they inadvertently break a newly made up rule and get excluded. The fear really is that bad and its not a way to install confidence into kids and its certainly not a way to gain respect
Lax schools are factories for young offenders. That being said, discipline must be applied intelligently and justly or it loses its didactic element and becomes simply oppression.
[quote][p][bold]poppet[/bold] wrote: Can people please remember before they comment that this is a normal school we are talking about, its not a Young Offenders Institute, but that is how most parents see their children being treated. There are scores of kids that have never been in trouble and are what would be seen as "good kids" not terrified to go into school incase they inadvertently break a newly made up rule and get excluded. The fear really is that bad and its not a way to install confidence into kids and its certainly not a way to gain respect[/p][/quote]Lax schools are factories for young offenders. That being said, discipline must be applied intelligently and justly or it loses its didactic element and becomes simply oppression. MuammarQaddafi

3:52pm Sat 12 Jan 13

teacher3456 says...

nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
MIstified wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.
My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox
Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.
please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.
I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.
[quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.[/p][/quote]My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox[/p][/quote]Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.[/p][/quote]please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old. If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.[/p][/quote]I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares. teacher3456

4:04pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Murphy41 says...

I am a student at Portslade Aldridge Community Academy and I had a great amount of respect for Mr Fox when he first started as a student should toward their teacher's but however as the week went on that respect lowered. Personally I don't think what happened in Mr Fox's previous school's really matter it's how he presents himself and does his work here but that's just my opinion. I have been in many lessons now where Mr Fox has stormed in with an aggressive tone of voice checking if everyone's top button is done up , barking at people to sit up straight and then ranting to the class about how he's only putting these rules in place so we can get ''nice houses , nice cars and good lives'' he also normally asks the teacher to step outside to talk to him. I think it's brilliant that we have a head teacher who's so passionate about what he does and is so disciplined because that's what our school needs but the way Mr Fox is going about it isn't the best , although a school is a place of education and is there to craft our future's he has stripped all individuality from students not letting us wear nail varnish, wearing hardly any make up , not allowing jewelry and a lot of other things and I think we should be aloud at least a small bit of individuality while we're there at least. I also don't like the way Mr Fox is going about exclusions, he has excluded too many people over tiny pathetic reasons and I have witnessed most of them , in the assembly we had the week we came back Mr Fox put a list of what we couldn't do or wear on the projector and what the consequences were if we broke the rules and a student in year 10 put her hand up and asked a question about the uniform and Mr Fox shouted ''that's it you're out for two days'' and a member of staff took her out of assembly and she got sent home which personally I think it was absolutely ridiculous. Although Mr Fox is making a drastic change around the school he is also making it worse at the same time and I think the ofsted and school governors should listen to the students opinions on the changes made more as the whole idea of the place changing is for our benefit after all.
I am a student at Portslade Aldridge Community Academy and I had a great amount of respect for Mr Fox when he first started as a student should toward their teacher's but however as the week went on that respect lowered. Personally I don't think what happened in Mr Fox's previous school's really matter it's how he presents himself and does his work here but that's just my opinion. I have been in many lessons now where Mr Fox has stormed in with an aggressive tone of voice checking if everyone's top button is done up , barking at people to sit up straight and then ranting to the class about how he's only putting these rules in place so we can get ''nice houses , nice cars and good lives'' he also normally asks the teacher to step outside to talk to him. I think it's brilliant that we have a head teacher who's so passionate about what he does and is so disciplined because that's what our school needs but the way Mr Fox is going about it isn't the best , although a school is a place of education and is there to craft our future's he has stripped all individuality from students not letting us wear nail varnish, wearing hardly any make up , not allowing jewelry and a lot of other things and I think we should be aloud at least a small bit of individuality while we're there at least. I also don't like the way Mr Fox is going about exclusions, he has excluded too many people over tiny pathetic reasons and I have witnessed most of them , in the assembly we had the week we came back Mr Fox put a list of what we couldn't do or wear on the projector and what the consequences were if we broke the rules and a student in year 10 put her hand up and asked a question about the uniform and Mr Fox shouted ''that's it you're out for two days'' and a member of staff took her out of assembly and she got sent home which personally I think it was absolutely ridiculous. Although Mr Fox is making a drastic change around the school he is also making it worse at the same time and I think the ofsted and school governors should listen to the students opinions on the changes made more as the whole idea of the place changing is for our benefit after all. Murphy41

4:04pm Sat 12 Jan 13

nocando says...

Is Mrs Newcastle really a teacher because if she is then I'm even more worried about the state of our education system. I don't want halfwits like this anywhere near my children, let alone being paid to influence them. Good heavens, the lunatics really have taken over the asylum.
Is Mrs Newcastle really a teacher because if she is then I'm even more worried about the state of our education system. I don't want halfwits like this anywhere near my children, let alone being paid to influence them. Good heavens, the lunatics really have taken over the asylum. nocando

4:14pm Sat 12 Jan 13

alice1 says...

Mr Fox when you have finish at paca could you see if you can get in to cardinal newman Thank you
Mr Fox when you have finish at paca could you see if you can get in to cardinal newman Thank you alice1

4:15pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Mayan Turkey says...

mother_of_3 wrote:
Mayan Turkey wrote:
The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children.

The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food?
The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing.

Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing.

Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point.

Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'.

It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.
what does your post have to do with a FAILING school being given a HEAD TEACHER who will take no cr*p and DEAL with it???? answer, NOTHING!!!!
It puts forward the underlying reasons for the failure you mention and gives reasons why it's probably too late to effect real and lasting change - irrespective of carrot or stick. Corruption, greed and stupidity - essential elements for degradation in society...which depends on education.

Your capitalisation made me think of a school related joke:
Teacher: "children, what is the capital of France?"
Academy inmate 22910: "F, Miss"
[quote][p][bold]mother_of_3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayan Turkey[/bold] wrote: The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children. The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food? The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing. Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing. Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point. Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'. It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.[/p][/quote]what does your post have to do with a FAILING school being given a HEAD TEACHER who will take no cr*p and DEAL with it???? answer, NOTHING!!!![/p][/quote]It puts forward the underlying reasons for the failure you mention and gives reasons why it's probably too late to effect real and lasting change - irrespective of carrot or stick. Corruption, greed and stupidity - essential elements for degradation in society...which depends on education. Your capitalisation made me think of a school related joke: Teacher: "children, what is the capital of France?" Academy inmate 22910: "F, Miss" Mayan Turkey

4:19pm Sat 12 Jan 13

nocando says...

teacher3456 wrote:
nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
MIstified wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.
My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox
Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.
please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.
I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.
No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.
[quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.[/p][/quote]My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox[/p][/quote]Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.[/p][/quote]please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old. If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.[/p][/quote]I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.[/p][/quote]No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start. nocando

4:51pm Sat 12 Jan 13

darkasnight1 says...

trystero wrote:
GeorgeOrwell wrote:
What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered:

• Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results?
• Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite?
• Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen?
• And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school.

When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings.

As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.
Exactly!
AGREED !!
Why was all of this so hasty !!!
[quote][p][bold]trystero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GeorgeOrwell[/bold] wrote: What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered: • Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results? • Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite? • Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen? • And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school. When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings. As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.[/p][/quote]Exactly![/p][/quote]AGREED !! Why was all of this so hasty !!! darkasnight1

4:57pm Sat 12 Jan 13

tengri says...

alice1 wrote:
Mr Fox when you have finish at paca could you see if you can get in to cardinal newman Thank you
I think he has an eye on a North Korean job.
[quote][p][bold]alice1[/bold] wrote: Mr Fox when you have finish at paca could you see if you can get in to cardinal newman Thank you[/p][/quote]I think he has an eye on a North Korean job. tengri

4:58pm Sat 12 Jan 13

mother_of_3 says...

Mayan Turkey wrote:
mother_of_3 wrote:
Mayan Turkey wrote:
The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children.

The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food?
The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing.

Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing.

Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point.

Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'.

It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.
what does your post have to do with a FAILING school being given a HEAD TEACHER who will take no cr*p and DEAL with it???? answer, NOTHING!!!!
It puts forward the underlying reasons for the failure you mention and gives reasons why it's probably too late to effect real and lasting change - irrespective of carrot or stick. Corruption, greed and stupidity - essential elements for degradation in society...which depends on education.

Your capitalisation made me think of a school related joke:
Teacher: "children, what is the capital of France?"
Academy inmate 22910: "F, Miss"
people having tattoos and smokers/druggies have NOTHING to do with this subject of a failing school.or are you trying to blame people for having tattoos, smoking and doing drugs for the reason THAT school is terrible? or are you trying to say that people with tattoos, smoke and do drugs? cos if that's the case, let me tell you now, i have tattoos, but i don't "do drugs" or smoke. but again, what does tattoos, drugs and smoking have to do with this hellhole of a school? again, answer NOTHING!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Mayan Turkey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mother_of_3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayan Turkey[/bold] wrote: The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children. The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food? The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing. Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing. Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point. Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'. It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.[/p][/quote]what does your post have to do with a FAILING school being given a HEAD TEACHER who will take no cr*p and DEAL with it???? answer, NOTHING!!!![/p][/quote]It puts forward the underlying reasons for the failure you mention and gives reasons why it's probably too late to effect real and lasting change - irrespective of carrot or stick. Corruption, greed and stupidity - essential elements for degradation in society...which depends on education. Your capitalisation made me think of a school related joke: Teacher: "children, what is the capital of France?" Academy inmate 22910: "F, Miss"[/p][/quote]people having tattoos and smokers/druggies have NOTHING to do with this subject of a failing school.or are you trying to blame people for having tattoos, smoking and doing drugs for the reason THAT school is terrible? or are you trying to say that people with tattoos, smoke and do drugs? cos if that's the case, let me tell you now, i have tattoos, but i don't "do drugs" or smoke. but again, what does tattoos, drugs and smoking have to do with this hellhole of a school? again, answer NOTHING!!!! mother_of_3

4:58pm Sat 12 Jan 13

wiltshire99 says...

Murphy41 wrote:
I am a student at Portslade Aldridge Community Academy and I had a great amount of respect for Mr Fox when he first started as a student should toward their teacher's but however as the week went on that respect lowered. Personally I don't think what happened in Mr Fox's previous school's really matter it's how he presents himself and does his work here but that's just my opinion. I have been in many lessons now where Mr Fox has stormed in with an aggressive tone of voice checking if everyone's top button is done up , barking at people to sit up straight and then ranting to the class about how he's only putting these rules in place so we can get ''nice houses , nice cars and good lives'' he also normally asks the teacher to step outside to talk to him. I think it's brilliant that we have a head teacher who's so passionate about what he does and is so disciplined because that's what our school needs but the way Mr Fox is going about it isn't the best , although a school is a place of education and is there to craft our future's he has stripped all individuality from students not letting us wear nail varnish, wearing hardly any make up , not allowing jewelry and a lot of other things and I think we should be aloud at least a small bit of individuality while we're there at least. I also don't like the way Mr Fox is going about exclusions, he has excluded too many people over tiny pathetic reasons and I have witnessed most of them , in the assembly we had the week we came back Mr Fox put a list of what we couldn't do or wear on the projector and what the consequences were if we broke the rules and a student in year 10 put her hand up and asked a question about the uniform and Mr Fox shouted ''that's it you're out for two days'' and a member of staff took her out of assembly and she got sent home which personally I think it was absolutely ridiculous. Although Mr Fox is making a drastic change around the school he is also making it worse at the same time and I think the ofsted and school governors should listen to the students opinions on the changes made more as the whole idea of the place changing is for our benefit after all.
Don't worry. This is what he does. He'll strut around shouting at everyone to get their top buttons done up, go on in assemblies about getting a nice car and house.. This will last for about a month.

After that, he'll disappear into his office and start plotting against the staff. If you get the knee squeeze, watch out - you are on the hit list!

Just keep your head down is the best advice. He has no other ideas (one trick pony)... Not sure where this former army stuff comes from - Have you actually met him? More like Insurance Salesman.
[quote][p][bold]Murphy41[/bold] wrote: I am a student at Portslade Aldridge Community Academy and I had a great amount of respect for Mr Fox when he first started as a student should toward their teacher's but however as the week went on that respect lowered. Personally I don't think what happened in Mr Fox's previous school's really matter it's how he presents himself and does his work here but that's just my opinion. I have been in many lessons now where Mr Fox has stormed in with an aggressive tone of voice checking if everyone's top button is done up , barking at people to sit up straight and then ranting to the class about how he's only putting these rules in place so we can get ''nice houses , nice cars and good lives'' he also normally asks the teacher to step outside to talk to him. I think it's brilliant that we have a head teacher who's so passionate about what he does and is so disciplined because that's what our school needs but the way Mr Fox is going about it isn't the best , although a school is a place of education and is there to craft our future's he has stripped all individuality from students not letting us wear nail varnish, wearing hardly any make up , not allowing jewelry and a lot of other things and I think we should be aloud at least a small bit of individuality while we're there at least. I also don't like the way Mr Fox is going about exclusions, he has excluded too many people over tiny pathetic reasons and I have witnessed most of them , in the assembly we had the week we came back Mr Fox put a list of what we couldn't do or wear on the projector and what the consequences were if we broke the rules and a student in year 10 put her hand up and asked a question about the uniform and Mr Fox shouted ''that's it you're out for two days'' and a member of staff took her out of assembly and she got sent home which personally I think it was absolutely ridiculous. Although Mr Fox is making a drastic change around the school he is also making it worse at the same time and I think the ofsted and school governors should listen to the students opinions on the changes made more as the whole idea of the place changing is for our benefit after all.[/p][/quote]Don't worry. This is what he does. He'll strut around shouting at everyone to get their top buttons done up, go on in assemblies about getting a nice car and house.. This will last for about a month. After that, he'll disappear into his office and start plotting against the staff. If you get the knee squeeze, watch out - you are on the hit list! Just keep your head down is the best advice. He has no other ideas (one trick pony)... Not sure where this former army stuff comes from - Have you actually met him? More like Insurance Salesman. wiltshire99

5:35pm Sat 12 Jan 13

MIstified says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
MIstified wrote:
Remus1996 wrote:
May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA.

How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are!

I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair!

With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS!

Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much!

Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh?

There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army!
We should all be listening to these students, they are the ones who have to face this every day. I work in education and know that we are there to teach the children about all aspects of life. Not man handle them in anyway. Yes some children are challenging but as professionals there are much better ways of dealing with them. If he yanks either of my children's collars or touches them at all inappropriately I will be seeking legal advice. And for those of you who have labelled all the children at PACA as hoodlums and criminals have you ever bothered to talk to any of them.
Please see my last post and if you think your children may be 'targeted' for collar pulling and, or being touched inappropriately then address the issues with your children now like any half-decent parent would.

As a parent YOU are accountable, time to step up to the mark rather than making veiled threats re action you intend to take!
Neither of my children have ever been in trouble and are both hard working students. That doesn't mean he has a right to put all children under the same umbrella and randomly march up to children and yank their shirt collars to see if their top buttons are done up. So you should find out the full facts before you make your biggotted comments, if it was happening to your child maybe you would choice to ignore it.
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Remus1996[/bold] wrote: May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA. How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are! I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair! With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS! Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much! Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh? There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army![/p][/quote]We should all be listening to these students, they are the ones who have to face this every day. I work in education and know that we are there to teach the children about all aspects of life. Not man handle them in anyway. Yes some children are challenging but as professionals there are much better ways of dealing with them. If he yanks either of my children's collars or touches them at all inappropriately I will be seeking legal advice. And for those of you who have labelled all the children at PACA as hoodlums and criminals have you ever bothered to talk to any of them.[/p][/quote]Please see my last post and if you think your children may be 'targeted' for collar pulling and, or being touched inappropriately then address the issues with your children now like any half-decent parent would. As a parent YOU are accountable, time to step up to the mark rather than making veiled threats re action you intend to take![/p][/quote]Neither of my children have ever been in trouble and are both hard working students. That doesn't mean he has a right to put all children under the same umbrella and randomly march up to children and yank their shirt collars to see if their top buttons are done up. So you should find out the full facts before you make your biggotted comments, if it was happening to your child maybe you would choice to ignore it. MIstified

5:41pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Remus1996 says...

brightonearly wrote:
I would like to say what a difference Mr Fox has made in a week. The majority of rules are NOT new! The students have just been allowed to get away with doing as they please for too long. The way some of the students speak to peers and staff, was disgusting, they turn up when they want to, some have no respect for their environment, with thousands of pounds of damage already been done to new areas of the school and coming to school looking like they were off nightclubbing. If they were going to work like that, they would be sacked immediately. Part of going to school is learning skills and behaviours that will help you when you leave school and go into the big wide world.
Alot of things being reported are not true such as students not being allowed to wear coats to school. That is nonsense! Of course they can wear a coat to school - the rule is that they take it off when they get in the door...is that not normal behaviour? Would you keep your coat on once you get home or if you go visiting friends? The number of students being reported as excluded is also rubbish.
Mr Fox is a breath of fresh air and a very welcome one especially when you have daily battles with students for their behaviour and lack of self respect and pride.
All students are aware of the rules (yes, most of them have been in place for over a year!!) and as long as they stick to them, they will not be in trouble. As a parent myself, I taught my children to be polite, have good manners and show respect. Unfortunately, not all parents are the same and now they don't like it when someone else tries to do it for them! Long may Mr Fox reign at PACA!
I am sorry but as a student, I too see everyone walking in to school and feel that you are severely exaggerating the appearance of the pupils! You say that some of the kids looked like they were out at nightclubs when actually, the only problem was that they rolled their skirts up. That's it! It isn't as if they were flashing, was it?

As for Mr Fox, I hate the way everyone is implying that he has made a shred of difference to the way we look. If you had a clue of what happens in our school, which you can't have judging by what you are saying, then you would know that it was the brilliant MR MCLOUGHLIN who introduced the uniform and enforced it, not this oaf! All the sneaky sod has done is forced everyone to do up one extra button, making us all uncomfortable and unhappy! He deserves no praise!

Plus, for some people, they don't have top buttons, so he sews them on, which is horrible. Also, some people have weird sized collars or bigger necks, so it digs in. He doesn't care! I actually like the school uniform and am proud to wear it, but Mr McLoughlin is who made that happen so do not get the two confused please.
[quote][p][bold]brightonearly[/bold] wrote: I would like to say what a difference Mr Fox has made in a week. The majority of rules are NOT new! The students have just been allowed to get away with doing as they please for too long. The way some of the students speak to peers and staff, was disgusting, they turn up when they want to, some have no respect for their environment, with thousands of pounds of damage already been done to new areas of the school and coming to school looking like they were off nightclubbing. If they were going to work like that, they would be sacked immediately. Part of going to school is learning skills and behaviours that will help you when you leave school and go into the big wide world. Alot of things being reported are not true such as students not being allowed to wear coats to school. That is nonsense! Of course they can wear a coat to school - the rule is that they take it off when they get in the door...is that not normal behaviour? Would you keep your coat on once you get home or if you go visiting friends? The number of students being reported as excluded is also rubbish. Mr Fox is a breath of fresh air and a very welcome one especially when you have daily battles with students for their behaviour and lack of self respect and pride. All students are aware of the rules (yes, most of them have been in place for over a year!!) and as long as they stick to them, they will not be in trouble. As a parent myself, I taught my children to be polite, have good manners and show respect. Unfortunately, not all parents are the same and now they don't like it when someone else tries to do it for them! Long may Mr Fox reign at PACA![/p][/quote]I am sorry but as a student, I too see everyone walking in to school and feel that you are severely exaggerating the appearance of the pupils! You say that some of the kids looked like they were out at nightclubs when actually, the only problem was that they rolled their skirts up. That's it! It isn't as if they were flashing, was it? As for Mr Fox, I hate the way everyone is implying that he has made a shred of difference to the way we look. If you had a clue of what happens in our school, which you can't have judging by what you are saying, then you would know that it was the brilliant MR MCLOUGHLIN who introduced the uniform and enforced it, not this oaf! All the sneaky sod has done is forced everyone to do up one extra button, making us all uncomfortable and unhappy! He deserves no praise! Plus, for some people, they don't have top buttons, so he sews them on, which is horrible. Also, some people have weird sized collars or bigger necks, so it digs in. He doesn't care! I actually like the school uniform and am proud to wear it, but Mr McLoughlin is who made that happen so do not get the two confused please. Remus1996

5:48pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Remus1996 says...

Some of the comments being placed here are making out that the parents are all a load of scroungers and criminals, so can I just get one thing straight here and now:

I am a student and my mum has two jobs, and so works 9 hours a day, getting home late at night. Also, she has no criminal past. You cannot put everyone in the same category based on the school's location or the student's behaviours. All of the parents that I know are hard-working and are clean of criminal records, so please stop insulting the majority of around 1600 parents unnecessarily!
Some of the comments being placed here are making out that the parents are all a load of scroungers and criminals, so can I just get one thing straight here and now: I am a student and my mum has two jobs, and so works 9 hours a day, getting home late at night. Also, she has no criminal past. You cannot put everyone in the same category based on the school's location or the student's behaviours. All of the parents that I know are hard-working and are clean of criminal records, so please stop insulting the majority of around 1600 parents unnecessarily! Remus1996

5:48pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Hardens says...

Hmm seeing some of the same old stuff about Foxy here... I'm one of the band of parents who was disappointed when he was removed from his post at his last school. From my son's and his friends points of view they not only responded well to his style (and their GCSE results reflected that) but really liked him too - of course in the beginning it seemed a bit petty to go on about top buttons etc. but that was just the beginning in his tackling so much of the unproductive behaviour that was getting in the way of the education of the kids who just wanted to get on with getting decent exam results. It seemed to me that if your child was prepared to toe the line on uniform, not bully, not disrupt lessons then Mr Fox was a welcome change over the previous incumbent under whom bullying was rife and discipline seemed to only apply to the kids whose parents gave a ****. He won't be everyone's cup of tea but I'm glad he was at our school - the timing was perfect for my son's education.
Hmm seeing some of the same old stuff about Foxy here... I'm one of the band of parents who was disappointed when he was removed from his post at his last school. From my son's and his friends points of view they not only responded well to his style (and their GCSE results reflected that) but really liked him too - of course in the beginning it seemed a bit petty to go on about top buttons etc. but that was just the beginning in his tackling so much of the unproductive behaviour that was getting in the way of the education of the kids who just wanted to get on with getting decent exam results. It seemed to me that if your child was prepared to toe the line on uniform, not bully, not disrupt lessons then Mr Fox was a welcome change over the previous incumbent under whom bullying was rife and discipline seemed to only apply to the kids whose parents gave a ****. He won't be everyone's cup of tea but I'm glad he was at our school - the timing was perfect for my son's education. Hardens

5:50pm Sat 12 Jan 13

MIstified says...

concernedmother1 wrote:
trystero wrote:
GeorgeOrwell wrote:
What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered:

• Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results?
• Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite?
• Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen?
• And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school.

When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings.

As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.
Exactly!
totally agree. Why would somebody want a legal agreement to keep his previous suspension hush hush if it isnt anything to worry about?
Absolutely agree with everything you have said, and this is the major concern of most of us parents.
[quote][p][bold]concernedmother1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trystero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GeorgeOrwell[/bold] wrote: What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered: • Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results? • Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite? • Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen? • And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school. When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings. As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.[/p][/quote]Exactly![/p][/quote]totally agree. Why would somebody want a legal agreement to keep his previous suspension hush hush if it isnt anything to worry about?[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree with everything you have said, and this is the major concern of most of us parents. MIstified

6:04pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Remus1996 says...

And another thing, I don't like the way that us students are being made out to be lazy, unwilling to learn and that we do not take our educations seriously as, once again, that applies to a minority of students, probably about 15-25 people in an entire school of 800. I, for one, am taking on 11 GCSEs, two of which I have already obtained at Grade A (fast track French and maths). One of which is a double award course in which I must create two folders of portfolios which takes daily writing up and additional research, so I must be hard-working in order to succeed.

So many people are doing the same amount of courses as I am and are achieving outstanding grades and you don't get that by sitting on your backside all day!

Furthermore, we are all very practical and analytical, so we all take our future careers seriously. For instance, I have planned to do A-levels, university and then go on to become a primary school teacher, so I believe that we do not get nearly as much respect as we deserve. Just think about that when you next think of putting the PACA pupils down because this student will defend every single person in the entire academy.
And another thing, I don't like the way that us students are being made out to be lazy, unwilling to learn and that we do not take our educations seriously as, once again, that applies to a minority of students, probably about 15-25 people in an entire school of 800. I, for one, am taking on 11 GCSEs, two of which I have already obtained at Grade A (fast track French and maths). One of which is a double award course in which I must create two folders of portfolios which takes daily writing up and additional research, so I must be hard-working in order to succeed. So many people are doing the same amount of courses as I am and are achieving outstanding grades and you don't get that by sitting on your backside all day! Furthermore, we are all very practical and analytical, so we all take our future careers seriously. For instance, I have planned to do A-levels, university and then go on to become a primary school teacher, so I believe that we do not get nearly as much respect as we deserve. Just think about that when you next think of putting the PACA pupils down because this student will defend every single person in the entire academy. Remus1996

6:09pm Sat 12 Jan 13

teacher3456 says...

nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
MIstified wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.
My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox
Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.
please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.
I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.
No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.
Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today.
By the way woud you learn how to spell would.
[quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.[/p][/quote]My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox[/p][/quote]Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.[/p][/quote]please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old. If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.[/p][/quote]I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.[/p][/quote]No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.[/p][/quote]Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today. By the way woud you learn how to spell would. teacher3456

6:19pm Sat 12 Jan 13

harveyxo says...

If you've just come onto this article to blame the parents and slate/insult the students at PACA you have no idea.
As a student attending this school I take my education seriously and feel lesson time is wasted so we can be looked up and down for uniform.

Comments above insinuate suspended students shall have criminal records and that parents are to blame.
Who do you think you are to brand people as 'bad parents' my parents have bought me up to know right from wrong and to respect people yet I was told of for having a hairband on my wrist as I has sports later that day. How pathetic.
If you are not a student at this school or a parent of a tutor this is not your issue to tackle.
If you've just come onto this article to blame the parents and slate/insult the students at PACA you have no idea. As a student attending this school I take my education seriously and feel lesson time is wasted so we can be looked up and down for uniform. Comments above insinuate suspended students shall have criminal records and that parents are to blame. Who do you think you are to brand people as 'bad parents' my parents have bought me up to know right from wrong and to respect people yet I was told of for having a hairband on my wrist as I has sports later that day. How pathetic. If you are not a student at this school or a parent of a tutor this is not your issue to tackle. harveyxo

6:22pm Sat 12 Jan 13

harveyxo says...

* parent of a child.
* parent of a child. harveyxo

6:27pm Sat 12 Jan 13

trystero says...

teacher3456 wrote:
nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
MIstified wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.
My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox
Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.
please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.
I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.
No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.
Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today.
By the way woud you learn how to spell would.
repartee
n
1. a sharp, witty, or aphoristic remark made as a reply
2. terse rapid conversation consisting of such remarks
3. skill in making sharp witty replies or conversation


(Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003)

So the remark MIGHT be written rather than spoken. On the other hand, there's little excuse for THIS sort of thing:

"Writing well in your own language woud (sic.) be a good start."

"...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today."

Pot - meet Kettle. Kettle - meet Pot.
[quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.[/p][/quote]My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox[/p][/quote]Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.[/p][/quote]please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old. If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.[/p][/quote]I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.[/p][/quote]No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.[/p][/quote]Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today. By the way woud you learn how to spell would.[/p][/quote]repartee [ˌrɛpɑːˈtiː] n 1. a sharp, witty, or aphoristic remark made as a reply 2. terse rapid conversation consisting of such remarks 3. skill in making sharp witty replies or conversation [from French repartie, from repartir to retort, from re- + partir to go away] (Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003) So the remark MIGHT be written rather than spoken. On the other hand, there's little excuse for THIS sort of thing: "Writing well in your own language woud (sic.) be a good start." "...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today." Pot - meet Kettle. Kettle - meet Pot. trystero

6:33pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
Dave At Home wrote:
Mozartian wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.
Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?
Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.
Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.
I have absolutely no self esteem issues nor do I need therapy. I am merely pointing out that most of the people commenting on here about the poor education and delinquency of children at PACA, including mine, and that they are all destined for the dole, prison or both, seem to be quite uneducated themselves. You included. 'There (sic) my best part'. Oh dear. There, their and they're is year 4 stuff.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave At Home[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mozartian[/bold] wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.[/p][/quote]Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?[/p][/quote]Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.[/p][/quote]Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.[/p][/quote]I have absolutely no self esteem issues nor do I need therapy. I am merely pointing out that most of the people commenting on here about the poor education and delinquency of children at PACA, including mine, and that they are all destined for the dole, prison or both, seem to be quite uneducated themselves. You included. 'There (sic) my best part'. Oh dear. There, their and they're is year 4 stuff. Legal1974

6:33pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
Dave At Home wrote:
Mozartian wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.
Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?
Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.
Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.
I have absolutely no self esteem issues nor do I need therapy. I am merely pointing out that most of the people commenting on here about the poor education and delinquency of children at PACA, including mine, and that they are all destined for the dole, prison or both, seem to be quite uneducated themselves. You included. 'There (sic) my best part'. Oh dear. There, their and they're is year 4 stuff.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave At Home[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mozartian[/bold] wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.[/p][/quote]Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?[/p][/quote]Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.[/p][/quote]Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.[/p][/quote]I have absolutely no self esteem issues nor do I need therapy. I am merely pointing out that most of the people commenting on here about the poor education and delinquency of children at PACA, including mine, and that they are all destined for the dole, prison or both, seem to be quite uneducated themselves. You included. 'There (sic) my best part'. Oh dear. There, their and they're is year 4 stuff. Legal1974

6:33pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
Dave At Home wrote:
Mozartian wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.
Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?
Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.
Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.
I have absolutely no self esteem issues nor do I need therapy. I am merely pointing out that most of the people commenting on here about the poor education and delinquency of children at PACA, including mine, and that they are all destined for the dole, prison or both, seem to be quite uneducated themselves. You included. 'There (sic) my best part'. Oh dear. There, their and they're is year 4 stuff.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave At Home[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mozartian[/bold] wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.[/p][/quote]Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?[/p][/quote]Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.[/p][/quote]Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.[/p][/quote]I have absolutely no self esteem issues nor do I need therapy. I am merely pointing out that most of the people commenting on here about the poor education and delinquency of children at PACA, including mine, and that they are all destined for the dole, prison or both, seem to be quite uneducated themselves. You included. 'There (sic) my best part'. Oh dear. There, their and they're is year 4 stuff. Legal1974

6:33pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
Dave At Home wrote:
Mozartian wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.
Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?
Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.
Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.
I have absolutely no self esteem issues nor do I need therapy. I am merely pointing out that most of the people commenting on here about the poor education and delinquency of children at PACA, including mine, and that they are all destined for the dole, prison or both, seem to be quite uneducated themselves. You included. 'There (sic) my best part'. Oh dear. There, their and they're is year 4 stuff.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Newcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave At Home[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mozartian[/bold] wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.[/p][/quote]Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?[/p][/quote]Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.[/p][/quote]Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.[/p][/quote]I have absolutely no self esteem issues nor do I need therapy. I am merely pointing out that most of the people commenting on here about the poor education and delinquency of children at PACA, including mine, and that they are all destined for the dole, prison or both, seem to be quite uneducated themselves. You included. 'There (sic) my best part'. Oh dear. There, their and they're is year 4 stuff. Legal1974

6:56pm Sat 12 Jan 13

teacher3456 says...

trystero wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
MIstified wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.
My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox
Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.
please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.
I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.
No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.
Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today.
By the way woud you learn how to spell would.
repartee
n
1. a sharp, witty, or aphoristic remark made as a reply
2. terse rapid conversation consisting of such remarks
3. skill in making sharp witty replies or conversation


(Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003)

So the remark MIGHT be written rather than spoken. On the other hand, there's little excuse for THIS sort of thing:

"Writing well in your own language woud (sic.) be a good start."

"...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today."

Pot - meet Kettle. Kettle - meet Pot.
Repartee is to do with conversation. If you don't know that then you must be of
need of some education. I referring to my learned friend the aforementioned had used the word woud before, as you would have notice if you could read.
[quote][p][bold]trystero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.[/p][/quote]My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox[/p][/quote]Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.[/p][/quote]please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old. If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.[/p][/quote]I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.[/p][/quote]No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.[/p][/quote]Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today. By the way woud you learn how to spell would.[/p][/quote]repartee [ˌrɛpɑːˈtiː] n 1. a sharp, witty, or aphoristic remark made as a reply 2. terse rapid conversation consisting of such remarks 3. skill in making sharp witty replies or conversation [from French repartie, from repartir to retort, from re- + partir to go away] (Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003) So the remark MIGHT be written rather than spoken. On the other hand, there's little excuse for THIS sort of thing: "Writing well in your own language woud (sic.) be a good start." "...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today." Pot - meet Kettle. Kettle - meet Pot.[/p][/quote]Repartee is to do with conversation. If you don't know that then you must be of need of some education. I referring to my learned friend the aforementioned had used the word woud before, as you would have notice if you could read. teacher3456

6:56pm Sat 12 Jan 13

teacher3456 says...

trystero wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
MIstified wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.
My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox
Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.
please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.
I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.
No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.
Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today.
By the way woud you learn how to spell would.
repartee
n
1. a sharp, witty, or aphoristic remark made as a reply
2. terse rapid conversation consisting of such remarks
3. skill in making sharp witty replies or conversation


(Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003)

So the remark MIGHT be written rather than spoken. On the other hand, there's little excuse for THIS sort of thing:

"Writing well in your own language woud (sic.) be a good start."

"...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today."

Pot - meet Kettle. Kettle - meet Pot.
Repartee is to do with conversation. If you don't know that then you must be of
need of some education. I referring to my learned friend the aforementioned had used the word woud before, as you would have notice if you could read.
[quote][p][bold]trystero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.[/p][/quote]My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox[/p][/quote]Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.[/p][/quote]please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old. If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.[/p][/quote]I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.[/p][/quote]No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.[/p][/quote]Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today. By the way woud you learn how to spell would.[/p][/quote]repartee [ˌrɛpɑːˈtiː] n 1. a sharp, witty, or aphoristic remark made as a reply 2. terse rapid conversation consisting of such remarks 3. skill in making sharp witty replies or conversation [from French repartie, from repartir to retort, from re- + partir to go away] (Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003) So the remark MIGHT be written rather than spoken. On the other hand, there's little excuse for THIS sort of thing: "Writing well in your own language woud (sic.) be a good start." "...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today." Pot - meet Kettle. Kettle - meet Pot.[/p][/quote]Repartee is to do with conversation. If you don't know that then you must be of need of some education. I referring to my learned friend the aforementioned had used the word woud before, as you would have notice if you could read. teacher3456

7:29pm Sat 12 Jan 13

trystero says...

teacher3456 wrote:
trystero wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
MIstified wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.
My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox
Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.
please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.
I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.
No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.
Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today.
By the way woud you learn how to spell would.
repartee
n
1. a sharp, witty, or aphoristic remark made as a reply
2. terse rapid conversation consisting of such remarks
3. skill in making sharp witty replies or conversation


(Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003)

So the remark MIGHT be written rather than spoken. On the other hand, there's little excuse for THIS sort of thing:

"Writing well in your own language woud (sic.) be a good start."

"...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today."

Pot - meet Kettle. Kettle - meet Pot.
Repartee is to do with conversation. If you don't know that then you must be of
need of some education. I referring to my learned friend the aforementioned had used the word woud before, as you would have notice if you could read.
Repartee - see definition 1 from 'Collins English Dictionary', op cit. NO reference to "conversation" there - though I grant you there IS such reference in definitions 2 & 3. See the great 'OED' (now at http://www.oed.com/) for chapter and verse.

As for the rest of your ill-punctuated response ("I referring to my learned friend the aforementioned had used the word" indeed!) - the reason for my further citation of nocando's solecism was to point out that you're as bad as each other while both trying to claim the educational "high ground". Perhaps you just didn't get the pot/kettle bit?

As someone who can both read and write with tolerable accuracy, I STILL await your explanation/justific
ation of "...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today." Or, for that matter, "...as you would have notice (sic.) if you could read." Perhaps your confusion stems from the fact that you claim to be a doctor while using the name "teacher3456"? Then again, perhaps you are neither.
[quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trystero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.[/p][/quote]My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox[/p][/quote]Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.[/p][/quote]please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old. If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.[/p][/quote]I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.[/p][/quote]No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.[/p][/quote]Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today. By the way woud you learn how to spell would.[/p][/quote]repartee [ˌrɛpɑːˈtiː] n 1. a sharp, witty, or aphoristic remark made as a reply 2. terse rapid conversation consisting of such remarks 3. skill in making sharp witty replies or conversation [from French repartie, from repartir to retort, from re- + partir to go away] (Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003) So the remark MIGHT be written rather than spoken. On the other hand, there's little excuse for THIS sort of thing: "Writing well in your own language woud (sic.) be a good start." "...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today." Pot - meet Kettle. Kettle - meet Pot.[/p][/quote]Repartee is to do with conversation. If you don't know that then you must be of need of some education. I referring to my learned friend the aforementioned had used the word woud before, as you would have notice if you could read.[/p][/quote]Repartee - see definition 1 from 'Collins English Dictionary', op cit. NO reference to "conversation" there - though I grant you there IS such reference in definitions 2 & 3. See the great 'OED' (now at http://www.oed.com/) for chapter and verse. As for the rest of your ill-punctuated response ("I referring to my learned friend the aforementioned had used the word" indeed!) - the reason for my further citation of nocando's solecism was to point out that you're as bad as each other while both trying to claim the educational "high ground". Perhaps you just didn't get the pot/kettle bit? As someone who can both read and write with tolerable accuracy, I STILL await your explanation/justific ation of "...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today." Or, for that matter, "...as you would have notice (sic.) if you could read." Perhaps your confusion stems from the fact that you claim to be a doctor while using the name "teacher3456"? Then again, perhaps you are neither. trystero

7:38pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Remus1996 says...

harveyxo wrote:
If you've just come onto this article to blame the parents and slate/insult the students at PACA you have no idea.
As a student attending this school I take my education seriously and feel lesson time is wasted so we can be looked up and down for uniform.

Comments above insinuate suspended students shall have criminal records and that parents are to blame.
Who do you think you are to brand people as 'bad parents' my parents have bought me up to know right from wrong and to respect people yet I was told of for having a hairband on my wrist as I has sports later that day. How pathetic.
If you are not a student at this school or a parent of a tutor this is not your issue to tackle.
Well said harveyxo! It is pathetic that you were told off just for that and I too have been brought up to be respectful and to know right from wrong and know exactly what you mean. Thank you for putting this on!
[quote][p][bold]harveyxo[/bold] wrote: If you've just come onto this article to blame the parents and slate/insult the students at PACA you have no idea. As a student attending this school I take my education seriously and feel lesson time is wasted so we can be looked up and down for uniform. Comments above insinuate suspended students shall have criminal records and that parents are to blame. Who do you think you are to brand people as 'bad parents' my parents have bought me up to know right from wrong and to respect people yet I was told of for having a hairband on my wrist as I has sports later that day. How pathetic. If you are not a student at this school or a parent of a tutor this is not your issue to tackle.[/p][/quote]Well said harveyxo! It is pathetic that you were told off just for that and I too have been brought up to be respectful and to know right from wrong and know exactly what you mean. Thank you for putting this on! Remus1996

7:42pm Sat 12 Jan 13

johnroebuckofwhitrun says...

The rules were changed because if you compare the rules he brought in and the ones in every students planner there are clear differences, for example in our planners it says girls are allowed nail vanish compared to his new rules that do not allow any nail vanish of any kind.
The rules were changed because if you compare the rules he brought in and the ones in every students planner there are clear differences, for example in our planners it says girls are allowed nail vanish compared to his new rules that do not allow any nail vanish of any kind. johnroebuckofwhitrun

7:50pm Sat 12 Jan 13

nocando says...

My spelling's on the ball unlike my keyboard. Some buttons need a bit of a thump. However that's no excuse for not double checking before submitting a post, particularly a post criticising someone else's English. So yes, hands up, made a tit of myself there.
My spelling's on the ball unlike my keyboard. Some buttons need a bit of a thump. However that's no excuse for not double checking before submitting a post, particularly a post criticising someone else's English. So yes, hands up, made a tit of myself there. nocando

7:53pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

hubby wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
hubby wrote: Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.
The majority of the pupils we are talking about are not bad children, nor are the parents or teachers. This is about unreasonable disciplinary measures interrupting the pupils' education during important GCSE studies and exams by a bully who has gone about this in an entirely incorrect manner and is not leading by example. You have obviously not been keeping up with the comments on here. Your comment is completely irrelevant to the issues so I suggest you just keep your pointless opinions to yourself.
So we agree that this headmaster is a bad role model? Which in turn encourages his pupils to rebel and behave badly? These children were presumably not born this way? Only bullies try to steamroller other peoples opinions. I worked for many years in the probation service.Often my duties involved me with the Youth Offending Team. I am now teaching. Children and young adults respond best to fairness and understanding. They hate being talked down to and being given "orders" for the sake of it. Every child is an individual and should be treated as such. For some the "iron fist" may work.Others need the "velvet glove". If you try to treat a group of individuals with their own thoughts and opinions exactly the same then you will always get problems. Who is in charge of pastoral care at the school? Who is listening to what the pupils are saying? In my experience the freshest and most sensible ideas come from the pupils rather than the staff.
It seems I owe you an apology. I understood your first post to be one of those 'bash the parents of these delinquent children' type. I completely agree with all you have said in the above post. The way Fox has treated these children in the intimidating, disrespectful manner he has is downright disgusting. I am 100% for discipline and feel that is what children need. However, they also need to be treated and act as individuals and with respect. Fox seems to forget that not every child at that school wants to work in a business environment when they leave school. There are many more careers and vocations out there for which children can have 'extreme' hairstyles, piercings and tattoos (ooh, perish the thought of such creativity and individuality) and I for one encourage my daughter to do the best she can so that she can achieve her dream job in science. Once again, my apologies
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.[/p][/quote]The majority of the pupils we are talking about are not bad children, nor are the parents or teachers. This is about unreasonable disciplinary measures interrupting the pupils' education during important GCSE studies and exams by a bully who has gone about this in an entirely incorrect manner and is not leading by example. You have obviously not been keeping up with the comments on here. Your comment is completely irrelevant to the issues so I suggest you just keep your pointless opinions to yourself.[/p][/quote]So we agree that this headmaster is a bad role model? Which in turn encourages his pupils to rebel and behave badly? These children were presumably not born this way? Only bullies try to steamroller other peoples opinions. I worked for many years in the probation service.Often my duties involved me with the Youth Offending Team. I am now teaching. Children and young adults respond best to fairness and understanding. They hate being talked down to and being given "orders" for the sake of it. Every child is an individual and should be treated as such. For some the "iron fist" may work.Others need the "velvet glove". If you try to treat a group of individuals with their own thoughts and opinions exactly the same then you will always get problems. Who is in charge of pastoral care at the school? Who is listening to what the pupils are saying? In my experience the freshest and most sensible ideas come from the pupils rather than the staff.[/p][/quote]It seems I owe you an apology. I understood your first post to be one of those 'bash the parents of these delinquent children' type. I completely agree with all you have said in the above post. The way Fox has treated these children in the intimidating, disrespectful manner he has is downright disgusting. I am 100% for discipline and feel that is what children need. However, they also need to be treated and act as individuals and with respect. Fox seems to forget that not every child at that school wants to work in a business environment when they leave school. There are many more careers and vocations out there for which children can have 'extreme' hairstyles, piercings and tattoos (ooh, perish the thought of such creativity and individuality) and I for one encourage my daughter to do the best she can so that she can achieve her dream job in science. Once again, my apologies Legal1974

8:17pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Remus1996 wrote:
And another thing, I don't like the way that us students are being made out to be lazy, unwilling to learn and that we do not take our educations seriously as, once again, that applies to a minority of students, probably about 15-25 people in an entire school of 800. I, for one, am taking on 11 GCSEs, two of which I have already obtained at Grade A (fast track French and maths). One of which is a double award course in which I must create two folders of portfolios which takes daily writing up and additional research, so I must be hard-working in order to succeed. So many people are doing the same amount of courses as I am and are achieving outstanding grades and you don't get that by sitting on your backside all day! Furthermore, we are all very practical and analytical, so we all take our future careers seriously. For instance, I have planned to do A-levels, university and then go on to become a primary school teacher, so I believe that we do not get nearly as much respect as we deserve. Just think about that when you next think of putting the PACA pupils down because this student will defend every single person in the entire academy.
I couldn't have put it better myself. You seem to be a very intelligent and articulate pupil, certainly not a thick delinquent destined for the dole or prison as some seem to think. You will be an asset for whatever school will be lucky enough to employ you. Well done for showing all these disbelievers on here and for defending your fellow pupils, as I have been and will continue to do.
[quote][p][bold]Remus1996[/bold] wrote: And another thing, I don't like the way that us students are being made out to be lazy, unwilling to learn and that we do not take our educations seriously as, once again, that applies to a minority of students, probably about 15-25 people in an entire school of 800. I, for one, am taking on 11 GCSEs, two of which I have already obtained at Grade A (fast track French and maths). One of which is a double award course in which I must create two folders of portfolios which takes daily writing up and additional research, so I must be hard-working in order to succeed. So many people are doing the same amount of courses as I am and are achieving outstanding grades and you don't get that by sitting on your backside all day! Furthermore, we are all very practical and analytical, so we all take our future careers seriously. For instance, I have planned to do A-levels, university and then go on to become a primary school teacher, so I believe that we do not get nearly as much respect as we deserve. Just think about that when you next think of putting the PACA pupils down because this student will defend every single person in the entire academy.[/p][/quote]I couldn't have put it better myself. You seem to be a very intelligent and articulate pupil, certainly not a thick delinquent destined for the dole or prison as some seem to think. You will be an asset for whatever school will be lucky enough to employ you. Well done for showing all these disbelievers on here and for defending your fellow pupils, as I have been and will continue to do. Legal1974

8:20pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

Legal1974 wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:
Legal1974 wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote: You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed. As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal. Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market. It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics. Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.
As you are a journalist, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A child is not an employee of the school and cannot, therefore, bring a claim in the employment tribunal (at which a person making a claim is an applicant, not a complainant). A claim for harassment, and negligence for that matter (the school could be negligent in denying education), can be brought in the law of tort at a county or high court, in which case the person making a claim is a claimant. The school may also be found to be in breach of its statutory obligations in relation to exclusions and expulsion. The point i was making about vicarious liability is that fox is an employee of the Aldridge Foundation. the AF is vicariously liable for the wrongdoings of its employees. Nothing at all to do with a claim in employment law. I'll do you a deal - don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to do yours
Legal1974 - would do well to deal with 'the fact' rather than building a position based on rumour and hypothesis. I am not Rod. I am just a concerned parent and tax payer with a passion for improving our once great town. This is likely to be achieved by dealing with the miscreants in the Brighton population through increased accountability and contribution. To achieve this we need to address root cause, rather than dealing with the symptoms and in my opinion these first steps in this instance are now being taken. Parents should be working with and supporting the Head not bleating petty concerns on this site.
So your child goes to this school?
sorry somethingsarejustwro
ng, I didn't catch your reply...
[quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed. As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal. Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market. It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics. Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.[/p][/quote]As you are a journalist, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A child is not an employee of the school and cannot, therefore, bring a claim in the employment tribunal (at which a person making a claim is an applicant, not a complainant). A claim for harassment, and negligence for that matter (the school could be negligent in denying education), can be brought in the law of tort at a county or high court, in which case the person making a claim is a claimant. The school may also be found to be in breach of its statutory obligations in relation to exclusions and expulsion. The point i was making about vicarious liability is that fox is an employee of the Aldridge Foundation. the AF is vicariously liable for the wrongdoings of its employees. Nothing at all to do with a claim in employment law. I'll do you a deal - don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to do yours[/p][/quote]Legal1974 - would do well to deal with 'the fact' rather than building a position based on rumour and hypothesis. I am not Rod. I am just a concerned parent and tax payer with a passion for improving our once great town. This is likely to be achieved by dealing with the miscreants in the Brighton population through increased accountability and contribution. To achieve this we need to address root cause, rather than dealing with the symptoms and in my opinion these first steps in this instance are now being taken. Parents should be working with and supporting the Head not bleating petty concerns on this site.[/p][/quote]So your child goes to this school?[/p][/quote]sorry somethingsarejustwro ng, I didn't catch your reply... Legal1974

8:21pm Sat 12 Jan 13

hubby says...

Thanks!
I am almost always on the side of the pupils.
Some great posts from Remus1996.As I said before,most of the sense usually comes from the pupils.
Why teachers ever want to knock individuality out of their charges has always been beyond me.
Thanks! I am almost always on the side of the pupils. Some great posts from Remus1996.As I said before,most of the sense usually comes from the pupils. Why teachers ever want to knock individuality out of their charges has always been beyond me. hubby

8:22pm Sat 12 Jan 13

chrisso says...

teacher3456 wrote:
nocando wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
MIstified wrote:
teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.
My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox
Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.
please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.
I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.
If you're a doctor, then i'm the pope.
[quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nocando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teacher3456[/bold] wrote: PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.[/p][/quote]My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox[/p][/quote]Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.[/p][/quote]please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old. If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.[/p][/quote]I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.[/p][/quote]If you're a doctor, then i'm the pope. chrisso

8:26pm Sat 12 Jan 13

chrisso says...

GeorgeOrwell wrote:
What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered:

• Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results?
• Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite?
• Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen?
• And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school.

When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings.

As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.
Spot on there, George. These questions need answers, and soon.
[quote][p][bold]GeorgeOrwell[/bold] wrote: What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered: • Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results? • Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite? • Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen? • And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school. When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings. As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.[/p][/quote]Spot on there, George. These questions need answers, and soon. chrisso

8:43pm Sat 12 Jan 13

xlaughingx says...

Imagine how wonderfully educated,well balanced ,and prepared for society the students would be if they followed the rules and maintained the school standards (obviously backed all the way by their supportive and caring parents) - the teaching staff and management could focus on the actual teaching and learning .Get the small things right & the rest will follow.
Imagine how wonderfully educated,well balanced ,and prepared for society the students would be if they followed the rules and maintained the school standards (obviously backed all the way by their supportive and caring parents) - the teaching staff and management could focus on the actual teaching and learning .Get the small things right & the rest will follow. xlaughingx

8:53pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

xlaughingx wrote:
Imagine how wonderfully educated,well balanced ,and prepared for society the students would be if they followed the rules and maintained the school standards (obviously backed all the way by their supportive and caring parents) - the teaching staff and management could focus on the actual teaching and learning .Get the small things right & the rest will follow.
If you had bothered to read the comments by the parents, you would know that this is nothing to do with the rules - it's about the disgusting way Fox has treated the children and the parents and the way the AF have allowed this to happen. It's extremely noteworthy that not one of the 200 odd comments on here is from a teacher of PACA backing Fox or the AF. Obviously they would not put anything backing the children or the parents for fear of being sacked by Hitler...sorry...Fox
[quote][p][bold]xlaughingx[/bold] wrote: Imagine how wonderfully educated,well balanced ,and prepared for society the students would be if they followed the rules and maintained the school standards (obviously backed all the way by their supportive and caring parents) - the teaching staff and management could focus on the actual teaching and learning .Get the small things right & the rest will follow.[/p][/quote]If you had bothered to read the comments by the parents, you would know that this is nothing to do with the rules - it's about the disgusting way Fox has treated the children and the parents and the way the AF have allowed this to happen. It's extremely noteworthy that not one of the 200 odd comments on here is from a teacher of PACA backing Fox or the AF. Obviously they would not put anything backing the children or the parents for fear of being sacked by Hitler...sorry...Fox Legal1974

9:00pm Sat 12 Jan 13

sarahjp says...

Excellent post from George Orwell, clearly identifying the important issues at the heart of this situation.
Excellent post from George Orwell, clearly identifying the important issues at the heart of this situation. sarahjp

9:59pm Sat 12 Jan 13

whywhywhy123 says...

read the ofsted report, paca need change, come on mr fox, sort out the teaching as well,
read the ofsted report, paca need change, come on mr fox, sort out the teaching as well, whywhywhy123

10:06pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

whywhywhy123 wrote:
read the ofsted report, paca need change, come on mr fox, sort out the teaching as well,
Yet again, somebody who hasn't bothered to read the posts setting out the pupils' and parents' concerns.
[quote][p][bold]whywhywhy123[/bold] wrote: read the ofsted report, paca need change, come on mr fox, sort out the teaching as well,[/p][/quote]Yet again, somebody who hasn't bothered to read the posts setting out the pupils' and parents' concerns. Legal1974

11:07pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

MIstified wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

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wrote:
MIstified wrote:
Remus1996 wrote:
May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA.

How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are!

I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair!

With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS!

Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much!

Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh?

There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army!
We should all be listening to these students, they are the ones who have to face this every day. I work in education and know that we are there to teach the children about all aspects of life. Not man handle them in anyway. Yes some children are challenging but as professionals there are much better ways of dealing with them. If he yanks either of my children's collars or touches them at all inappropriately I will be seeking legal advice. And for those of you who have labelled all the children at PACA as hoodlums and criminals have you ever bothered to talk to any of them.
Please see my last post and if you think your children may be 'targeted' for collar pulling and, or being touched inappropriately then address the issues with your children now like any half-decent parent would.

As a parent YOU are accountable, time to step up to the mark rather than making veiled threats re action you intend to take!
Neither of my children have ever been in trouble and are both hard working students. That doesn't mean he has a right to put all children under the same umbrella and randomly march up to children and yank their shirt collars to see if their top buttons are done up. So you should find out the full facts before you make your biggotted comments, if it was happening to your child maybe you would choice to ignore it.
blimey
[quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MIstified[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Remus1996[/bold] wrote: May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA. How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are! I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair! With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS! Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much! Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh? There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army![/p][/quote]We should all be listening to these students, they are the ones who have to face this every day. I work in education and know that we are there to teach the children about all aspects of life. Not man handle them in anyway. Yes some children are challenging but as professionals there are much better ways of dealing with them. If he yanks either of my children's collars or touches them at all inappropriately I will be seeking legal advice. And for those of you who have labelled all the children at PACA as hoodlums and criminals have you ever bothered to talk to any of them.[/p][/quote]Please see my last post and if you think your children may be 'targeted' for collar pulling and, or being touched inappropriately then address the issues with your children now like any half-decent parent would. As a parent YOU are accountable, time to step up to the mark rather than making veiled threats re action you intend to take![/p][/quote]Neither of my children have ever been in trouble and are both hard working students. That doesn't mean he has a right to put all children under the same umbrella and randomly march up to children and yank their shirt collars to see if their top buttons are done up. So you should find out the full facts before you make your biggotted comments, if it was happening to your child maybe you would choice to ignore it.[/p][/quote]blimey Somethingsarejustwrong

11:24pm Sat 12 Jan 13

farang says...

Another article which has brought out all the fascists and bigots!
Another article which has brought out all the fascists and bigots! farang

11:32pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Seeker92 says...

I am quite honestly appalled and shocked by what I've read on this post. Yes, I am in fact a student at PACA and I work extremely hard to get the grades I'm maintaining; mostly within the A region. I agree our school doesn't own the most outstanding reputation, however if you were to look at the school a mere 4-5 years ago to now, there has been a rapid improvement. How DARE those of you commenting about how us students will end up on the 'dole' or 'in prison'. Why pin every single student the 'scumbag' name, when in fact it is a small minority of students?

I do believe, depending on what your work is, that the colour of your nails or whether or not your top button done up isn't a concern for your employers, so what is doing that providing us exactly? I totally agree that something needs to be done with our school and if the teachers, other faculty members, Mr Fox or even the governors were to actually listen and take into account the majority of the students...they would realise that most believe some rules are good.

We are not all delinquents nor will we end up in prison, we are normal human beings...just like those commenting on this article. How would you like to be victims of prejudice because of past pupils who have created a bad name for the school, yet have left? Teachers wanted more pay, they went on strikes. Airports, post offices, many businesses...all going on strikes because they don't agree with some rules and new enforcements. I'm pretty sure those workers are in YOUR generations, so it's not the youth of today being 'unruley' and 'misbehaving', it is happening with people your ages also.

I believe things like restricting students from eating anywhere apart from in the canteen, which is only actually allowed to sit 150-200 people in, is simple ridiculous. No nail varnish? Our planners say we can wear it. No bracelets? Our planners say we can wear one. Also, I saw a comment suggesting a lie was made when someone mentioned a hole in the trousers? Someone DID get excluded for a small hole, no longer then 4cm...the excuse for the exclusion? 'Indecent Exposure'. It is simply petty, so of course some rebellion is going to occur.

Mr McLaughlin created an Anti-bullying campaign, of which did dramatically decrease the number of cases. I have not yet heard one mention of exams, anti-bullying or the welfare of the students coming out of Mr Fox's mouth. I was prepared to give him a warm welcome, however how the student body have been made to feel in our own little community is simple disgraceful.

As mentioned before, if you don't work in the school, or regularly walk around the school...you would not of seen the difference. Before jumping to absurd conclusions about my peers and I, please consider our feelings. This isn't the 1970s anymore where the cane and whips were allowed. That is not because of our school, it is the Health and Welfare Act. A lot of you commenters are saying 'grow up' to the parents and students commenting about the negative aspects to these 'changes', when maybe a little growing up needs to be done your way. People need to actually focus on facts, not prejudices and accusations. School should have a fun aspect to it, even Mr Fox said in our assembly...I don't see any fun in PACA at this current moment in time.
I am quite honestly appalled and shocked by what I've read on this post. Yes, I am in fact a student at PACA and I work extremely hard to get the grades I'm maintaining; mostly within the A region. I agree our school doesn't own the most outstanding reputation, however if you were to look at the school a mere 4-5 years ago to now, there has been a rapid improvement. How DARE those of you commenting about how us students will end up on the 'dole' or 'in prison'. Why pin every single student the 'scumbag' name, when in fact it is a small minority of students? I do believe, depending on what your work is, that the colour of your nails or whether or not your top button done up isn't a concern for your employers, so what is doing that providing us exactly? I totally agree that something needs to be done with our school and if the teachers, other faculty members, Mr Fox or even the governors were to actually listen and take into account the majority of the students...they would realise that most believe some rules are good. We are not all delinquents nor will we end up in prison, we are normal human beings...just like those commenting on this article. How would you like to be victims of prejudice because of past pupils who have created a bad name for the school, yet have left? Teachers wanted more pay, they went on strikes. Airports, post offices, many businesses...all going on strikes because they don't agree with some rules and new enforcements. I'm pretty sure those workers are in YOUR generations, so it's not the youth of today being 'unruley' and 'misbehaving', it is happening with people your ages also. I believe things like restricting students from eating anywhere apart from in the canteen, which is only actually allowed to sit 150-200 people in, is simple ridiculous. No nail varnish? Our planners say we can wear it. No bracelets? Our planners say we can wear one. Also, I saw a comment suggesting a lie was made when someone mentioned a hole in the trousers? Someone DID get excluded for a small hole, no longer then 4cm...the excuse for the exclusion? 'Indecent Exposure'. It is simply petty, so of course some rebellion is going to occur. Mr McLaughlin created an Anti-bullying campaign, of which did dramatically decrease the number of cases. I have not yet heard one mention of exams, anti-bullying or the welfare of the students coming out of Mr Fox's mouth. I was prepared to give him a warm welcome, however how the student body have been made to feel in our own little community is simple disgraceful. As mentioned before, if you don't work in the school, or regularly walk around the school...you would not of seen the difference. Before jumping to absurd conclusions about my peers and I, please consider our feelings. This isn't the 1970s anymore where the cane and whips were allowed. That is not because of our school, it is the Health and Welfare Act. A lot of you commenters are saying 'grow up' to the parents and students commenting about the negative aspects to these 'changes', when maybe a little growing up needs to be done your way. People need to actually focus on facts, not prejudices and accusations. School should have a fun aspect to it, even Mr Fox said in our assembly...I don't see any fun in PACA at this current moment in time. Seeker92

11:39pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Remus1996 says...

Seeker92 wrote:
I am quite honestly appalled and shocked by what I've read on this post. Yes, I am in fact a student at PACA and I work extremely hard to get the grades I'm maintaining; mostly within the A region. I agree our school doesn't own the most outstanding reputation, however if you were to look at the school a mere 4-5 years ago to now, there has been a rapid improvement. How DARE those of you commenting about how us students will end up on the 'dole' or 'in prison'. Why pin every single student the 'scumbag' name, when in fact it is a small minority of students?

I do believe, depending on what your work is, that the colour of your nails or whether or not your top button done up isn't a concern for your employers, so what is doing that providing us exactly? I totally agree that something needs to be done with our school and if the teachers, other faculty members, Mr Fox or even the governors were to actually listen and take into account the majority of the students...they would realise that most believe some rules are good.

We are not all delinquents nor will we end up in prison, we are normal human beings...just like those commenting on this article. How would you like to be victims of prejudice because of past pupils who have created a bad name for the school, yet have left? Teachers wanted more pay, they went on strikes. Airports, post offices, many businesses...all going on strikes because they don't agree with some rules and new enforcements. I'm pretty sure those workers are in YOUR generations, so it's not the youth of today being 'unruley' and 'misbehaving', it is happening with people your ages also.

I believe things like restricting students from eating anywhere apart from in the canteen, which is only actually allowed to sit 150-200 people in, is simple ridiculous. No nail varnish? Our planners say we can wear it. No bracelets? Our planners say we can wear one. Also, I saw a comment suggesting a lie was made when someone mentioned a hole in the trousers? Someone DID get excluded for a small hole, no longer then 4cm...the excuse for the exclusion? 'Indecent Exposure'. It is simply petty, so of course some rebellion is going to occur.

Mr McLaughlin created an Anti-bullying campaign, of which did dramatically decrease the number of cases. I have not yet heard one mention of exams, anti-bullying or the welfare of the students coming out of Mr Fox's mouth. I was prepared to give him a warm welcome, however how the student body have been made to feel in our own little community is simple disgraceful.

As mentioned before, if you don't work in the school, or regularly walk around the school...you would not of seen the difference. Before jumping to absurd conclusions about my peers and I, please consider our feelings. This isn't the 1970s anymore where the cane and whips were allowed. That is not because of our school, it is the Health and Welfare Act. A lot of you commenters are saying 'grow up' to the parents and students commenting about the negative aspects to these 'changes', when maybe a little growing up needs to be done your way. People need to actually focus on facts, not prejudices and accusations. School should have a fun aspect to it, even Mr Fox said in our assembly...I don't see any fun in PACA at this current moment in time.
You have summed up all of our thoughts into one comment, well said and well done!
[quote][p][bold]Seeker92[/bold] wrote: I am quite honestly appalled and shocked by what I've read on this post. Yes, I am in fact a student at PACA and I work extremely hard to get the grades I'm maintaining; mostly within the A region. I agree our school doesn't own the most outstanding reputation, however if you were to look at the school a mere 4-5 years ago to now, there has been a rapid improvement. How DARE those of you commenting about how us students will end up on the 'dole' or 'in prison'. Why pin every single student the 'scumbag' name, when in fact it is a small minority of students? I do believe, depending on what your work is, that the colour of your nails or whether or not your top button done up isn't a concern for your employers, so what is doing that providing us exactly? I totally agree that something needs to be done with our school and if the teachers, other faculty members, Mr Fox or even the governors were to actually listen and take into account the majority of the students...they would realise that most believe some rules are good. We are not all delinquents nor will we end up in prison, we are normal human beings...just like those commenting on this article. How would you like to be victims of prejudice because of past pupils who have created a bad name for the school, yet have left? Teachers wanted more pay, they went on strikes. Airports, post offices, many businesses...all going on strikes because they don't agree with some rules and new enforcements. I'm pretty sure those workers are in YOUR generations, so it's not the youth of today being 'unruley' and 'misbehaving', it is happening with people your ages also. I believe things like restricting students from eating anywhere apart from in the canteen, which is only actually allowed to sit 150-200 people in, is simple ridiculous. No nail varnish? Our planners say we can wear it. No bracelets? Our planners say we can wear one. Also, I saw a comment suggesting a lie was made when someone mentioned a hole in the trousers? Someone DID get excluded for a small hole, no longer then 4cm...the excuse for the exclusion? 'Indecent Exposure'. It is simply petty, so of course some rebellion is going to occur. Mr McLaughlin created an Anti-bullying campaign, of which did dramatically decrease the number of cases. I have not yet heard one mention of exams, anti-bullying or the welfare of the students coming out of Mr Fox's mouth. I was prepared to give him a warm welcome, however how the student body have been made to feel in our own little community is simple disgraceful. As mentioned before, if you don't work in the school, or regularly walk around the school...you would not of seen the difference. Before jumping to absurd conclusions about my peers and I, please consider our feelings. This isn't the 1970s anymore where the cane and whips were allowed. That is not because of our school, it is the Health and Welfare Act. A lot of you commenters are saying 'grow up' to the parents and students commenting about the negative aspects to these 'changes', when maybe a little growing up needs to be done your way. People need to actually focus on facts, not prejudices and accusations. School should have a fun aspect to it, even Mr Fox said in our assembly...I don't see any fun in PACA at this current moment in time.[/p][/quote]You have summed up all of our thoughts into one comment, well said and well done! Remus1996

11:41pm Sat 12 Jan 13

hubby says...

We are the present and the past.
Children are the future.
We should be giving them the ideals and the ideas to make the world a better place.
If we really value our freedom.Why would we want to oppress our young people?
This man is a dinosaur.
There is no place for people like him in the modern world.
We are the present and the past. Children are the future. We should be giving them the ideals and the ideas to make the world a better place. If we really value our freedom.Why would we want to oppress our young people? This man is a dinosaur. There is no place for people like him in the modern world. hubby

11:43pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Remus1996 says...

I have just realised that in the actual article, it states, and I quote, that 'more than a dozen other pupils had also been suspended since then over their behaviour, including using abusive language towards teachers.'

May I just make it clear that the suspensions were mostly for swearing IN FRONT of the teachers, not TOWARDS the teachers. There is a very big difference.
I have just realised that in the actual article, it states, and I quote, that 'more than a dozen other pupils had also been suspended since then over their behaviour, including using abusive language towards teachers.' May I just make it clear that the suspensions were mostly for swearing IN FRONT of the teachers, not TOWARDS the teachers. There is a very big difference. Remus1996

11:49pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Seeker92 says...

Remus1996 wrote:
I have just realised that in the actual article, it states, and I quote, that 'more than a dozen other pupils had also been suspended since then over their behaviour, including using abusive language towards teachers.'

May I just make it clear that the suspensions were mostly for swearing IN FRONT of the teachers, not TOWARDS the teachers. There is a very big difference.
I agree. Also, there have been less exclusions for 'abusive language' then uniform errors.
Every time a news reporter on tele, an MP, the queen, a celebrity messes up or swears etc...they are not punished like how we are being punished. We are the future generation of the world, we should have a similar respect, not being demoralised and simply pushed to the side.
[quote][p][bold]Remus1996[/bold] wrote: I have just realised that in the actual article, it states, and I quote, that 'more than a dozen other pupils had also been suspended since then over their behaviour, including using abusive language towards teachers.' May I just make it clear that the suspensions were mostly for swearing IN FRONT of the teachers, not TOWARDS the teachers. There is a very big difference.[/p][/quote]I agree. Also, there have been less exclusions for 'abusive language' then uniform errors. Every time a news reporter on tele, an MP, the queen, a celebrity messes up or swears etc...they are not punished like how we are being punished. We are the future generation of the world, we should have a similar respect, not being demoralised and simply pushed to the side. Seeker92

12:30am Sun 13 Jan 13

sososo says...

A lot of interesting points being made here.some of which I agree with and some I find completely ludicrous.People who do not know the pupils or staff of this school should really stop posting absolute rubbish. I'am fortunate enough to have spent some time in this school over the past few years and have seen at first hand what a great job Mr McLaughlin and his staff have done in making massive improvements to the school.

However unfortunately for Mr McLaughlin he never really stood a chance once 'Sir Rod' got his hands on the school.The 'local boy done good' who funny enough I have never heard a good word on from anyone from portslade.He was always going to bring his own men in to turn every pupil into an entrepreneur!!One of the first things the academy decided to do was to totally get rid of technology and design in the school.In an area where you will find a lot of good tradesmen is this really the way forward?Oh yeah it must be now that 'Sir Rod' is going to turn all the pupils into top class business men and women.This is what happens when business men get to run schools.

This week seems to have been one of drastic change in the school.From what I've read and heard it's been hectic.I do believe that some rules did need reinforcing and I also read that the litter problem has improved.This is something that was a problem whenever I was in the school and I'm glad that is being sorted.However it does seem that the pupils are being treated like young army recruits which is totally the wrong way to go about it.All this will do is create resentment and angry pupils.Having worked with these pupils in the past I know that 95/96 % of them are excellent pupils who are very easy to get along with.To treat them like prisoners is totally wrong and I hope they are given the chance to be heard.I veryich doubt that will happen though

As for the new principal, Mr Fox, it seems like he rules with an iron fist.After finding out a little more about him I do fear for the staff at PACA and if he was my boss I would like to know why exactly did he have to leave his old job.It does seem like he is one of the academy's own men and I'm sure he'll get the job long term which is a worry for all at the school.

The bottom line here is that under Mr McLaughlin this was an improving school and was on the up.Both the pupils and staff were on board and the school was going places.However once it was announced that the school was to fall into the hands of Aldridge then everything was going to change.I do feel sorry for the staff and pupils of the school because things will change for the worse.The school will no longer be a vibrant happy learning place were everyone got on well.It will unfortunately become like a dictatorship but this is what happens when men like Aldrige get to run schools.
A lot of interesting points being made here.some of which I agree with and some I find completely ludicrous.People who do not know the pupils or staff of this school should really stop posting absolute rubbish. I'am fortunate enough to have spent some time in this school over the past few years and have seen at first hand what a great job Mr McLaughlin and his staff have done in making massive improvements to the school. However unfortunately for Mr McLaughlin he never really stood a chance once 'Sir Rod' got his hands on the school.The 'local boy done good' who funny enough I have never heard a good word on from anyone from portslade.He was always going to bring his own men in to turn every pupil into an entrepreneur!!One of the first things the academy decided to do was to totally get rid of technology and design in the school.In an area where you will find a lot of good tradesmen is this really the way forward?Oh yeah it must be now that 'Sir Rod' is going to turn all the pupils into top class business men and women.This is what happens when business men get to run schools. This week seems to have been one of drastic change in the school.From what I've read and heard it's been hectic.I do believe that some rules did need reinforcing and I also read that the litter problem has improved.This is something that was a problem whenever I was in the school and I'm glad that is being sorted.However it does seem that the pupils are being treated like young army recruits which is totally the wrong way to go about it.All this will do is create resentment and angry pupils.Having worked with these pupils in the past I know that 95/96 % of them are excellent pupils who are very easy to get along with.To treat them like prisoners is totally wrong and I hope they are given the chance to be heard.I veryich doubt that will happen though As for the new principal, Mr Fox, it seems like he rules with an iron fist.After finding out a little more about him I do fear for the staff at PACA and if he was my boss I would like to know why exactly did he have to leave his old job.It does seem like he is one of the academy's own men and I'm sure he'll get the job long term which is a worry for all at the school. The bottom line here is that under Mr McLaughlin this was an improving school and was on the up.Both the pupils and staff were on board and the school was going places.However once it was announced that the school was to fall into the hands of Aldridge then everything was going to change.I do feel sorry for the staff and pupils of the school because things will change for the worse.The school will no longer be a vibrant happy learning place were everyone got on well.It will unfortunately become like a dictatorship but this is what happens when men like Aldrige get to run schools. sososo

12:44am Sun 13 Jan 13

Athena says...

I have a number of friends who are, have been, or want to be teachers, but find the attitudes of the parents to be so abysmal, that it is almost impossible to teach today's young. Parents seem to think that school is nothing more than a baby-minding service and that teachers should be loving and cuddly towards their spoilt and undisciplined children. Parents should learn that discipline and discipline should be instilled at home and that school is a place for learning the skills to go out into the working world. If pupils are not disciplined by the time they get to school, or if such a new head feels children are not disciplined enough, then the school may feel it has to impose such discipline, such as is happening here. Once the pupils know the rules and know the consequences of disobeying them, they will soon learn to toe the line, and get on with the business of learning and such strict measures will not be needed so often. It is this lack of discipline which led to the recent riots and other such unsocial behaviour. We need more headmasters like this.
I have a number of friends who are, have been, or want to be teachers, but find the attitudes of the parents to be so abysmal, that it is almost impossible to teach today's young. Parents seem to think that school is nothing more than a baby-minding service and that teachers should be loving and cuddly towards their spoilt and undisciplined children. Parents should learn that discipline and discipline should be instilled at home and that school is a place for learning the skills to go out into the working world. If pupils are not disciplined by the time they get to school, or if such a new head feels children are not disciplined enough, then the school may feel it has to impose such discipline, such as is happening here. Once the pupils know the rules and know the consequences of disobeying them, they will soon learn to toe the line, and get on with the business of learning and such strict measures will not be needed so often. It is this lack of discipline which led to the recent riots and other such unsocial behaviour. We need more headmasters like this. Athena

12:55am Sun 13 Jan 13

Legal1974 says...

sososo wrote:
A lot of interesting points being made here.some of which I agree with and some I find completely ludicrous.People who do not know the pupils or staff of this school should really stop posting absolute rubbish. I'am fortunate enough to have spent some time in this school over the past few years and have seen at first hand what a great job Mr McLaughlin and his staff have done in making massive improvements to the school.

However unfortunately for Mr McLaughlin he never really stood a chance once 'Sir Rod' got his hands on the school.The 'local boy done good' who funny enough I have never heard a good word on from anyone from portslade.He was always going to bring his own men in to turn every pupil into an entrepreneur!!One of the first things the academy decided to do was to totally get rid of technology and design in the school.In an area where you will find a lot of good tradesmen is this really the way forward?Oh yeah it must be now that 'Sir Rod' is going to turn all the pupils into top class business men and women.This is what happens when business men get to run schools.

This week seems to have been one of drastic change in the school.From what I've read and heard it's been hectic.I do believe that some rules did need reinforcing and I also read that the litter problem has improved.This is something that was a problem whenever I was in the school and I'm glad that is being sorted.However it does seem that the pupils are being treated like young army recruits which is totally the wrong way to go about it.All this will do is create resentment and angry pupils.Having worked with these pupils in the past I know that 95/96 % of them are excellent pupils who are very easy to get along with.To treat them like prisoners is totally wrong and I hope they are given the chance to be heard.I veryich doubt that will happen though

As for the new principal, Mr Fox, it seems like he rules with an iron fist.After finding out a little more about him I do fear for the staff at PACA and if he was my boss I would like to know why exactly did he have to leave his old job.It does seem like he is one of the academy's own men and I'm sure he'll get the job long term which is a worry for all at the school.

The bottom line here is that under Mr McLaughlin this was an improving school and was on the up.Both the pupils and staff were on board and the school was going places.However once it was announced that the school was to fall into the hands of Aldridge then everything was going to change.I do feel sorry for the staff and pupils of the school because things will change for the worse.The school will no longer be a vibrant happy learning place were everyone got on well.It will unfortunately become like a dictatorship but this is what happens when men like Aldrige get to run schools.
No doubt Fox will take all the credit for the improved GCSE results I have no doubt will be achieved by the current year 11s following the hard work of Mr McLaughlin and teachers (and the year 11s of course!). Rod and the frankly appalling governors can then say "told you so" and appoint their pal Fox on a more permanent basis. As for the litter problem, when I was at school, a form of punishment for minor offences was to go on litter duty with a big black bin at break and lunchtime for the day. Two problems solved in one fell swoop, not the ridiculous exclusions and expulsions that do nothing but interrupt education.
[quote][p][bold]sososo[/bold] wrote: A lot of interesting points being made here.some of which I agree with and some I find completely ludicrous.People who do not know the pupils or staff of this school should really stop posting absolute rubbish. I'am fortunate enough to have spent some time in this school over the past few years and have seen at first hand what a great job Mr McLaughlin and his staff have done in making massive improvements to the school. However unfortunately for Mr McLaughlin he never really stood a chance once 'Sir Rod' got his hands on the school.The 'local boy done good' who funny enough I have never heard a good word on from anyone from portslade.He was always going to bring his own men in to turn every pupil into an entrepreneur!!One of the first things the academy decided to do was to totally get rid of technology and design in the school.In an area where you will find a lot of good tradesmen is this really the way forward?Oh yeah it must be now that 'Sir Rod' is going to turn all the pupils into top class business men and women.This is what happens when business men get to run schools. This week seems to have been one of drastic change in the school.From what I've read and heard it's been hectic.I do believe that some rules did need reinforcing and I also read that the litter problem has improved.This is something that was a problem whenever I was in the school and I'm glad that is being sorted.However it does seem that the pupils are being treated like young army recruits which is totally the wrong way to go about it.All this will do is create resentment and angry pupils.Having worked with these pupils in the past I know that 95/96 % of them are excellent pupils who are very easy to get along with.To treat them like prisoners is totally wrong and I hope they are given the chance to be heard.I veryich doubt that will happen though As for the new principal, Mr Fox, it seems like he rules with an iron fist.After finding out a little more about him I do fear for the staff at PACA and if he was my boss I would like to know why exactly did he have to leave his old job.It does seem like he is one of the academy's own men and I'm sure he'll get the job long term which is a worry for all at the school. The bottom line here is that under Mr McLaughlin this was an improving school and was on the up.Both the pupils and staff were on board and the school was going places.However once it was announced that the school was to fall into the hands of Aldridge then everything was going to change.I do feel sorry for the staff and pupils of the school because things will change for the worse.The school will no longer be a vibrant happy learning place were everyone got on well.It will unfortunately become like a dictatorship but this is what happens when men like Aldrige get to run schools.[/p][/quote]No doubt Fox will take all the credit for the improved GCSE results I have no doubt will be achieved by the current year 11s following the hard work of Mr McLaughlin and teachers (and the year 11s of course!). Rod and the frankly appalling governors can then say "told you so" and appoint their pal Fox on a more permanent basis. As for the litter problem, when I was at school, a form of punishment for minor offences was to go on litter duty with a big black bin at break and lunchtime for the day. Two problems solved in one fell swoop, not the ridiculous exclusions and expulsions that do nothing but interrupt education. Legal1974

12:56am Sun 13 Jan 13

Athena says...

BagelCat wrote:
Why is the Argus trying to make this man look like a fool?

Schools need more people like him. I wish I had a headteacher like that at my old school.
I did have a headteacher like that at my own school. It did me no harm and taught me that school was for learning, not a place for a fashion parade or to display my individuality. It taught me how to act with respect (even if I didn't feel it) which helped me get jobs and make contacts as an adult. It taught me that you have to conduct yourself according to your environment: party-time at the pub; joke time with your mates; anarchist time at political marches; efficiency time when applying for and working at jobs.
[quote][p][bold]BagelCat[/bold] wrote: Why is the Argus trying to make this man look like a fool? Schools need more people like him. I wish I had a headteacher like that at my old school.[/p][/quote]I did have a headteacher like that at my own school. It did me no harm and taught me that school was for learning, not a place for a fashion parade or to display my individuality. It taught me how to act with respect (even if I didn't feel it) which helped me get jobs and make contacts as an adult. It taught me that you have to conduct yourself according to your environment: party-time at the pub; joke time with your mates; anarchist time at political marches; efficiency time when applying for and working at jobs. Athena

1:00am Sun 13 Jan 13

Athena says...

KIS says wrote:
I am reading these comments with interest. My child attends this school, and my first reaction is that I am pleased that someone is prepared to enforce the school rules.

My child is wary about the new appointment of Mr Fox, but really has no need as he is very well behaved and motivated. I would be unhappy if he was excluded without a reasonable reason. If he behaved inappropriately I would expect him to have a suitable / FAIR consequence for his actions. I think Mr Fox is going to need to find a balance between enforcing rules and also being motivating and encouraging.

The first half term is bound to be tough as he has to make a stand. I have read the recent Ofsted report and behaviour is still a major issue at this school. My child tells me that classes are often disrupted by bad behaviour.

I just hope that all this settles down soon, so that Mr Fox can concentrate on raising the standard of education and working on the improvements already started by Mr McLaughlin.

I'm sure that most other parents like myself just want their child to leave this school with the aspirations to carry on in education and get on in life. We should support Mr Fox - like it or not...
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]KIS says[/bold] wrote: I am reading these comments with interest. My child attends this school, and my first reaction is that I am pleased that someone is prepared to enforce the school rules. My child is wary about the new appointment of Mr Fox, but really has no need as he is very well behaved and motivated. I would be unhappy if he was excluded without a reasonable reason. If he behaved inappropriately I would expect him to have a suitable / FAIR consequence for his actions. I think Mr Fox is going to need to find a balance between enforcing rules and also being motivating and encouraging. The first half term is bound to be tough as he has to make a stand. I have read the recent Ofsted report and behaviour is still a major issue at this school. My child tells me that classes are often disrupted by bad behaviour. I just hope that all this settles down soon, so that Mr Fox can concentrate on raising the standard of education and working on the improvements already started by Mr McLaughlin. I'm sure that most other parents like myself just want their child to leave this school with the aspirations to carry on in education and get on in life. We should support Mr Fox - like it or not...[/p][/quote]Well said. Athena

1:49am Sun 13 Jan 13

Remus1996 says...

Legal1974 wrote:
sososo wrote:
A lot of interesting points being made here.some of which I agree with and some I find completely ludicrous.People who do not know the pupils or staff of this school should really stop posting absolute rubbish. I'am fortunate enough to have spent some time in this school over the past few years and have seen at first hand what a great job Mr McLaughlin and his staff have done in making massive improvements to the school.

However unfortunately for Mr McLaughlin he never really stood a chance once 'Sir Rod' got his hands on the school.The 'local boy done good' who funny enough I have never heard a good word on from anyone from portslade.He was always going to bring his own men in to turn every pupil into an entrepreneur!!One of the first things the academy decided to do was to totally get rid of technology and design in the school.In an area where you will find a lot of good tradesmen is this really the way forward?Oh yeah it must be now that 'Sir Rod' is going to turn all the pupils into top class business men and women.This is what happens when business men get to run schools.

This week seems to have been one of drastic change in the school.From what I've read and heard it's been hectic.I do believe that some rules did need reinforcing and I also read that the litter problem has improved.This is something that was a problem whenever I was in the school and I'm glad that is being sorted.However it does seem that the pupils are being treated like young army recruits which is totally the wrong way to go about it.All this will do is create resentment and angry pupils.Having worked with these pupils in the past I know that 95/96 % of them are excellent pupils who are very easy to get along with.To treat them like prisoners is totally wrong and I hope they are given the chance to be heard.I veryich doubt that will happen though

As for the new principal, Mr Fox, it seems like he rules with an iron fist.After finding out a little more about him I do fear for the staff at PACA and if he was my boss I would like to know why exactly did he have to leave his old job.It does seem like he is one of the academy's own men and I'm sure he'll get the job long term which is a worry for all at the school.

The bottom line here is that under Mr McLaughlin this was an improving school and was on the up.Both the pupils and staff were on board and the school was going places.However once it was announced that the