25 suspended by new hardline headteacher at Portslade school (From The Argus)

ThinkBrighton wrote:
To quote the prophet "Rules is Rules"
You go to school to LEARN not to abuse the staff, have a smoke with your mates or get laid.
Conform, Listen, and Learn, it will set you up for the rest of your life.
It would be an interesting point to find out what qualifications the complaining
parents left school with.

Fudge001 wrote:
Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week.

Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view.

These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams!

Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:-
Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!).

There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply.

Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying.

I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.

JuliaM wrote:
"The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick.

We are not happy about it."

Well, stop your little darlings leaving the house inappropriately dressed for school then!

darkasnight1 wrote:
I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr

ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !!

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

darkasnight1 wrote:
I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr


ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !!

If you Google Mr Fox , you find quite similar comments about his style on other newspapers web sites from a previous school. Some parents liked his style and some did not. So if you not happy with it then change schools because i don't think this checking at the school gates will change. I think it the ways he thinks will teach your children respect. Personally its not my style, in my view it does not work. Respect has to given both ways!

darkasnight1 wrote:

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

darkasnight1 wrote:
I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr



ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !!

If you Google Mr Fox , you find quite similar comments about his style on other newspapers web sites from a previous school. Some parents liked his style and some did not. So if you not happy with it then change schools because i don't think this checking at the school gates will change. I think it the ways he thinks will teach your children respect. Personally its not my style, in my view it does not work. Respect has to given both ways!

I agree that some things cannot be changed and i am not suggesting that disciplinary should necesarily be relaxed but its the way this is being done,its infringing on their education,and some children want to learn,my child would be unable to attend another school due to health issues but if this does carry on would have to be home schooled as these situations affect a childs health,I am a responsible mother who has brought up 3 children one at university currently so i have a interest in my childs education i want her to succeed but at the moment is so scared she just wants to leave...

brightonmike2011 wrote:
Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox?

Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.

tengri wrote:

brightonmike2011 wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.

How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.

poppet wrote:

Fudge001 wrote:
Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week.

Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view.

These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams!

Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:-
Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!).

There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply.

Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying.

I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.

Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.

poppet wrote:

Fudge001 wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.

Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.

darkasnight1 wrote:

poppet wrote:

Fudge001 wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.

Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.

One of the most sensible comments on here. A time to comply should of been issued as they were told they were able to do some things by the old principle,then Mr Fox pops along with the new rules these should of been stated Mr M,sent letters out when he relaxed some rules,Mr Fox just charged in like a bull in a china shop,He would maybe of been given more support if parents had been made aware of the school gate inspections in advance and for some of the other issues that have been mentioned. As parents we are obligated to support our children,especially when some of the issues are so unfair,and with so many complaints their is obviously more to this story than many of the people commenting know. Wonder if you would be so keen to defend Mr Fox if it was your child who was upset,punish the wrongdoers,by all means but think before you judge every child,all children are not delinquents or liars,some are just trying to get through a day of school with as little grief as possible and dont need to be made late for classes unnecessarily.

brightonmike2011 wrote:
Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox?

Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.

graham_Seagull wrote:

tengri wrote:

brightonmike2011 wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.

How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.

Parents knew the rules since 2011, so have been ignoring them too and now blame the head for sticking to the rules.

You, the parents, have abdicated responsibility for applying the rules that you knew about, turned a blind eye too.

Now you whinge. Could make it up, incredible side stepping of parental responsibility!!!!

graham_Seagull wrote:

poppet wrote:

Fudge001 wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.

Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.

All guns blazing...you mean applying the existing rules that patents knew about.

Take responsibility!!!!!!

!

graham_Seagull wrote:

tengri wrote:

brightonmike2011 wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.

How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.

Parents knew the rules since 2011, so have been ignoring them too and now blame the head for sticking to the rules.

You, the parents, have abdicated responsibility for applying the rules that you knew about, turned a blind eye too.

Now you whinge. Could make it up, incredible side stepping of parental responsibility!!!!

1o1o1o1 wrote:
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.

Fudge001 wrote:

graham_Seagull wrote:

tengri wrote:

brightonmike2011 wrote: Do these parents not think that their kids are capable of lying to them and making up stories about Mr Big Bad Fox? Excluded for a small hole in trousers? Complete nonsense, more like the child was uncooperative and rude.

How many kids do you have at the school? I have one (not excluded) and I'm afraid you are the one in the wrong. This is why the story has made it to the newspapers. I'm in favour of tightening the rules. The way to do it is to give a few days notice and then clamp down. This guy has messed it up. Excluding a child for such trivialities that could be resolved with a little notice during GCSE times in utterly ridiculous. Mr McLaughlin may have been a front for Rod Aldridge to get another academy put in place but he was actually quite good and was being successful at making progress. Hopefully Fox realises the mistake he has made and does not undo all the good work.

Parents knew the rules since 2011, so have been ignoring them too and now blame the head for sticking to the rules.

You, the parents, have abdicated responsibility for applying the rules that you knew about, turned a blind eye too.

Now you whinge. Could make it up, incredible side stepping of parental responsibility!!!!

Parents knew the rules set by Mr M in 2011 not the new ones added by Mr Fox and please don't question my integrity or ability as a parent its insulting.

HJarrs wrote:
Good on you Mr Fox, keep up the good work. What we need is an increase in petty rules. We need to crush creativity, as the children from this accademy should be prepared to be worker drones uncondtionally accepting the petty rules of future employers.

I hope that you extend this to the families; fathers should where ties at all times and mothers should not wear skirts that are too short. They should be checked for cleanliness and tidyness. Slovenly parenting is just simply unacceptable.

darkasnight1 wrote:
Dear Graham_Seagull aka the resident troll you really should stop insulting our parental responsibilities Get your facts right The rules were changed since Mr M left in December Mr Fox just charged in with new reinforcements,How were the children or parents to know ?? Are we as parents meant to be psychic ?? Maybe the pupils should be taught to read minds ??
and as a side note I also thought the Argus would be less tolerant of trolls,Comment on what you know about,Or go and get a life.

darkshadows wrote:
Right, I'm a year 11 student at PACA and I'm not going to lie, these rules are ridiculous! I've been sent out of lessons for wearing nail varnish. i also gained a principals detention for drinking water during a lesson. i strongly suggest the school sort out its problems of discipline and rats before judging every student on their appearance! Ever since Fox has joined, there has been no support for us Year 11's who took an English Language exam yesterday. We've had no encouragement from Fox at all whereas Mr Mclaughlin was so supportive, friendly and always smiled. One of the rules is that all students must eat in the Canteen. There are nearly 800 pupils in the school with only about 100-200 seats in the canteen. Utterly ridiculous. PACA, sort out the rats and discipline rule before taking away our individuality without any justification for these reasons. All Mr. Fox cares about is making himself look good by enforcing rules rather then supporting us Year 11's on our current journey through exams. Excluding people doesn't solve anything; its what they want! i agree, disciplining students is important, but for him to come into our school and simply take over is wrong. Ive spoken to many teachers and they've all told me how they feel. They said they're only abiding by these rules to keep their jobs!

mother_of_3 wrote:
In regards to the report on the new head teacher of PACA, I can honestly say it's about bloody time something was done. 25 suspended by Mr Fox, the new head. BRAVO!!!! My daughter attended that school from October 2010,in year 7 up until the end of last school year. She was constantly bullied at that school, and no matter how hard myself and her father tried to make contact with the previous head teacher, we were unable to. The previous head did nothing about the bullying at PACA. My daughter was beaten up several times at the school, more than once, in front of staff - WHO DID NOTHING. The bullies to this day, remain at that school, and my daughter was forced to leave and start afresh this year at a new school, on the other side of town DUE TO PACA DOING NOTHING ABOUT THE BULLYING. Maybe now the students who bully at PACA will now see that the new head means business and what he will do to trouble makers. Well Done Mr Fox, pity you weren't head when my daughter attended the school. Oh and the man who is a teacher there, who does not want to be named, I bet that's Mr Robinson - just one of the teachers who witnessed my daughter being beaten up in the Oasis one day and DID NOTHING.

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

mother_of_3 wrote:
In regards to the report on the new head teacher of PACA, I can honestly say it's about bloody time something was done. 25 suspended by Mr Fox, the new head. BRAVO!!!! My daughter attended that school from October 2010,in year 7 up until the end of last school year. She was constantly bullied at that school, and no matter how hard myself and her father tried to make contact with the previous head teacher, we were unable to. The previous head did nothing about the bullying at PACA. My daughter was beaten up several times at the school, more than once, in front of staff - WHO DID NOTHING. The bullies to this day, remain at that school, and my daughter was forced to leave and start afresh this year at a new school, on the other side of town DUE TO PACA DOING NOTHING ABOUT THE BULLYING. Maybe now the students who bully at PACA will now see that the new head means business and what he will do to trouble makers. Well Done Mr Fox, pity you weren't head when my daughter attended the school. Oh and the man who is a teacher there, who does not want to be named, I bet that's Mr Robinson - just one of the teachers who witnessed my daughter being beaten up in the Oasis one day and DID NOTHING.

I would advise you to report any kind of physical attacks to the police. Assault is a crime.

Thetruth666 wrote:
And you display a total lack of respect again.Fox?Do you mean Mr Fox?

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
The goals at this school seems not to promote a sense of accomplishment for a job well done or for good behaviour the goal is not to foster independent thought about ones actions and how they affect others. The goal is not to develop effective communication skills nor is it develop positive accountability for ones actions. The goal of using this style of discipline on on children is simple "control"
.
"I can control you. I control your body. If you do something that does not conform to my ideals I can force you ."
This is in essence on a deep level, on a psychic level saying "you are no longer a separate entity. You will obey me. I own you."
The whole premise being to destroy the sense of self, of individualism. This is necessary in the military to ensure a very strong sense of reliance on your fellow recruits.So I see it has a place. But not on developing minds, not on children who are only learning how to handle social and emotional issues. It is dangerous to to the mental and well being of children,

sarahjp wrote:
I echo FightBack's concern - the real issue here is the way in which a popular and respected headteacher has suddenly left and been replaced by someone who previously worked with a member of staff of the Aldridge Foundation.

Thetruth666 wrote:
I was referring to your continued use of "Fox".If respect is earn't then you won't have earn't it calling him "Fox" would you?Does your little darling have the same attitude as you?If so i think MR Fox has some more important work to be doing...

Ballroom Blitz wrote:

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
The goals at this school seems not to promote a sense of accomplishment for a job well done or for good behaviour the goal is not to foster independent thought about ones actions and how they affect others. The goal is not to develop effective communication skills nor is it develop positive accountability for ones actions. The goal of using this style of discipline on on children is simple "control"
.
"I can control you. I control your body. If you do something that does not conform to my ideals I can force you ."
This is in essence on a deep level, on a psychic level saying "you are no longer a separate entity. You will obey me. I own you."
The whole premise being to destroy the sense of self, of individualism. This is necessary in the military to ensure a very strong sense of reliance on your fellow recruits.So I see it has a place. But not on developing minds, not on children who are only learning how to handle social and emotional issues. It is dangerous to to the mental and well being of children,

Wrong. It's exactly what we had in the 50s and 60s, and it's the right approach.
It's NOT dangerous to pupils mental health. Get real.
They don't like it because they aren't used to real discipline.
Carry on Mr Fox.

Thetruth666 wrote:
I am aware that you said your son has Aspergers (not Asperges) as per your comment.The only ignorance here is you assuming i hadn't read that.To assume your son has no responsibility for his behaviour due to this is wrong on every level.I speak from the perspective of someone who lives around the condition on a daily basis before you through your toys out the pram.To say " fortunately for him I never came face to face with him as I work away" tells me all i need to know about you.

concernedmother1 wrote:
Should we be worried that he has a legal agreement to stop anyone knowing the reason he had to leave his previous school? If he wishes to cntinue to be a teacher then I think the parents have a right to know why he was suspended, before he is allowed to teach their children.

I totally agree that the school needs a good shake up, but he has gone about this in totally the wrong way.

He should not stop children wearing coats and jackets, especially with the cold weather being forecast this week. I would like to see him walk to school every morning in his school uniform!

Speaking of which, why are the teachers allowed to have coloured hair (and i dont mean blondes or browns) at a parent consultation evening one of my daughter's teachers had purple hair!

Roundbill wrote:
Oh come on people, WAKE UP - it's obvious what he's up to. When he was being interviewed by the governors, he guaranteed them he could rescue the school from "needs improvement" status by increasing the GCSE pass-rate by X per cent. Now he's realised he's wa-a-ay short of that target, and so he's hand-picked and excluded anybody he doesn't think will pass their exams. That way they don't show up as "entered and failed", so he can bump up the school's overall pass-rate.

Thetruth666 wrote:
I am aware that you said your son has Aspergers (not Asperges) as per your comment.The only ignorance here is you assuming i hadn't read that.To assume your son has no responsibility for his behaviour due to this is wrong on every level.I speak from the perspective of someone who lives around the condition on a daily basis before you through your toys out the pram.To say " fortunately for him I never came face to face with him as I work away" tells me all i need to know about you.

1o1o1o1 wrote:
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.

harris11 wrote:
The comments on here are really quite depressing. This article is very sloppy journalism indeed. But it is only what we have come to expect of the Argus. Next week it will be some other piece of sensationalist drivel.
I went to an open evening last night and met Mr Fox. He is quite clearly a genuine man and knows what he is talking about. Some of the comments on here are quite pitiful. I want someone who is going to push my son to be the very best he can be and it that means strict adherence to school policies then I'm all for it. I'm fully supportive, otherwise what happens when he gets a job? Get real folks- we live in the real world. Exam results matter. Attitude matters. Appearance matters. Respect for yourselves and others. If students aren't following PACA policies there needs to be a consequence or what is the point of having the policy in the first place. If my son came home moaning that he had been told off for breaking the rules...my response would be- good! I couldn't care less if that ruffles a few staff feathers. If they don't like it move on. Good on you Mr Fox, it's about time that school was whipped into shape. I felt compelled to come on here and support you. The negative comments are misguided...and there are quite clearly a few staff members pretending to be students or whatever. Get a life!

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.

fascinator wrote:
Sounds like the guy is missing his time in the army.

I'm just waiting for the 'bring back the cane' brigade.

Time will tell though - it will be interesting to see if the school can better exam results, or if the headmaster has another term of gardening leave.

Surley Honor W-F is either the chair of guvs or the chairwoman of guvs.

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:
My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly.

From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.

jackdaniels46 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:
My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly.

From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.

Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?

Legal1974 wrote:

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.

is that your real name?

Fudge001 wrote:

jackdaniels46 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro


ng wrote:
My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly.

From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.

Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?

I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong"
You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.

hubby wrote:
Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

Fudge001 wrote:

jackdaniels46 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.

Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?

I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.

I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.

wexler53 wrote:
Mr Fox’s disciplinarian approach has led to several parents and teachers contacting The Argus with concerns over the tough measures.

One man who said he was a teacher at the academy stated: “The reasons range from skirts being too high to wearing nail varnish and bright lipstick.

Here's one teacher who should be dismissed. If you are not happy, there are systems in place for dealing with it, and these don't include running to the local paper.

His team - all staff - should get behind him, be professional and get on with making the school better for everyone.

If staff don't like it, then quit and try to find an easy spot somewhere else.

Children deserve the best education, which deserves good professional staff. Stop moaning and work together to do what you are employed for - teach.

Legal1974 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:

Fudge001 wrote:

jackdaniels46 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.

Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?

I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.

I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.

With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation

Fight_Back wrote:
Lets not fool ourselves here - our council are working hand in hand with Rod Aldridge who built one of the worst companies in the country for treatment of staff. It's horrendous that the council can hand over schools to such a man who then goes and sacks very good head teachers. Mr Fox has a questionable history but no doubt he's working hand in hand with Mr Aldridge to make the next million. These academies are nothing to do with education of our children and everything to do with lining the pockets of businessmen such as Aldridge and Fox as well as local politicians who no doubt have accepted some sort of back hander.

teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

Fudge001 wrote:

jackdaniels46 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro



ng wrote:
My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly.

From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.

Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?

I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong"
You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.

I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct.

I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon.

With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.

is that your real name?

No, but did you get the reference?

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:

Fudge001 wrote:

jackdaniels46 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.

Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?

I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.

I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.

With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation

I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment and whilst I appreciate you are entitled to an opinion, do believe that sometimes people caught up with the emotion, do miss the bigger picture. Accordingly, I reject your views.

Legal1974 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:

Fudge001 wrote:

jackdaniels46 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.

Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?

I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.

I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.

With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation

I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment and whilst I appreciate you are entitled to an opinion, do believe that sometimes people caught up with the emotion, do miss the bigger picture. Accordingly, I reject your views.

Reading back at all your comments, I think it's pretty obvious you are a governor so obviously your views are biased and you just want to line your pockets a bit more. Accordingly, I reject your views

darkasnight1 wrote:
If the skirts are too short then its the schools fault as we have to buy the uniform from PACA,and just for the record my child leaves the house smart at all times "No flesh on show,No make up,and a very understated hairstyle" she was still stopped on the gate and accused of having false nails."NO" just clean and nicely shaped,and accused of having extreme hair,a eyebrow length straight fringe,Extreme is it ?? Well that must make me a social outcast !!!! This is just a ordinary secondary school and most of the children are being stopped even ones with a hole in their tights or trousers,we cannot afford the school uniform riddiculous prices to replace as often as liked as ALL uniform is bought through PACA...

Legal1974 wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:

Fudge001 wrote:

jackdaniels46 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote: My expectations are that most of the suspended children will either already have criminal records, or will acquire them shortly. From experience I also suspect that the parents will be to blame.

Do you realise that some of the suspended pupils have been suspsended for minor infringement of school uniform policy - what a totally crass comment to make - our children are reading these comments and are NOT delinquents and certainly have not or will not get criminal records - do you know anything about this school ?

I think your user name says it all!! "some things are just wrong" You have no idea about our children and no right to comment, do not tar them all with the same brush.

I think you will find that I have enough knowledge to make accurate statements in respect of this situation and despite your protests know that I am correct. I also suspect that many of the issues spawn from people who have been on the benefits gravy train for far too long, although that journey is scheduled to finish very soon. With respect, I also recognise that there will be a few exceptions in the mix, but as a significant contributor of taxes want to ensure that my funds are spent wisely. Accordingly, I fully support the actions of the 'Head'.

With respect to you, I am not 'on the benefits gravy train' and never have been. I also want my taxes spent wisely (and I probably pay more than you in any event) and would rather it went towards appointing a head teacher who would teach the children with respect AT THE SAME TIME as increasing grades and NOT into the pockets of the directors and shareholders of the Aldridge Foundation

I would be most surprised if your lifetime tax contributions matched my annual payment and whilst I appreciate you are entitled to an opinion, do believe that sometimes people caught up with the emotion, do miss the bigger picture. Accordingly, I reject your views.

Reading back at all your comments, I think it's pretty obvious you are a governor so obviously your views are biased and you just want to line your pockets a bit more. Accordingly, I reject your views

I should have said "governor or Rod Aldridge"

graham_Seagull wrote:

darkasnight1 wrote:

poppet wrote:

Fudge001 wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.

Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.

One of the most sensible comments on here. A time to comply should of been issued as they were told they were able to do some things by the old principle,then Mr Fox pops along with the new rules these should of been stated Mr M,sent letters out when he relaxed some rules,Mr Fox just charged in like a bull in a china shop,He would maybe of been given more support if parents had been made aware of the school gate inspections in advance and for some of the other issues that have been mentioned. As parents we are obligated to support our children,especially when some of the issues are so unfair,and with so many complaints their is obviously more to this story than many of the people commenting know. Wonder if you would be so keen to defend Mr Fox if it was your child who was upset,punish the wrongdoers,by all means but think before you judge every child,all children are not delinquents or liars,some are just trying to get through a day of school with as little grief as possible and dont need to be made late for classes unnecessarily.

Another parent prepared to blame others and not simply get on with applying the rules.

Stop whining and start being a parent!!!

bikerjimbo wrote:
It seems to me that the parents need to get behind the head and the governors to ensure their children achieve the standards that the head requires. I am quessing that the negative comments are from people whose standards fall below that of the head so perhaps they should also heed his approach themselves. If the students are told to alter their dress or avoid make-up etc. then this should be done and not argued about. The interesting thing will be if the school improves both on Ofsted inspections and exam results. Mr Fox please do not adopt a softer approach until you see an improvment within your academy.

Fight_Back wrote:
Lets not fool ourselves here - our council are working hand in hand with Rod Aldridge who built one of the worst companies in the country for treatment of staff. It's horrendous that the council can hand over schools to such a man who then goes and sacks very good head teachers. Mr Fox has a questionable history but no doubt he's working hand in hand with Mr Aldridge to make the next million. These academies are nothing to do with education of our children and everything to do with lining the pockets of businessmen such as Aldridge and Fox as well as local politicians who no doubt have accepted some sort of back hander.

HJarrs wrote:

Fight_Back wrote:
Lets not fool ourselves here - our council are working hand in hand with Rod Aldridge who built one of the worst companies in the country for treatment of staff. It's horrendous that the council can hand over schools to such a man who then goes and sacks very good head teachers. Mr Fox has a questionable history but no doubt he's working hand in hand with Mr Aldridge to make the next million. These academies are nothing to do with education of our children and everything to do with lining the pockets of businessmen such as Aldridge and Fox as well as local politicians who no doubt have accepted some sort of back hander.

Point of correction, I think you will find that only Labour and Conservative politicians locally supported Academies. I very much doubt the current administration want to see an extension of this policy, which is a prelude to further education privitisation.

Fudge001 wrote:

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.

is that your real name?

No, but did you get the reference?

Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection!

MIstified wrote:

graham_Seagull wrote:

darkasnight1 wrote:

poppet wrote:

Fudge001 wrote: Both of my children attend this school and firstly I must say that I fully support the school in adherence to uniform and behaviour rules but I have to say that this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what has gone on this week. Its very shortsighted of you to comment that he is doing a good job when you only have a limited view. These children are at their most impressionable and self conscious and I don't think its right to humiliate them in the manner he has or exclude them so that they miss vital exams! Examples whats on this week but not mentioned in this article are:- Excluding someone for having a small hole in their trousers or their tight, not everyone can afford to replace things easily. Humiliating two pupils with serious health disorders by trying to do up their top button when clearly the collar is too small, excluding a boy whose adams apple is too big to do up his top button! (school shirts don't have different collar sizes!). There was no consultation with the parents prior to new rules being introduced and in fact the letter was informing us of them was sent home after the exclusions giving us no opportunity to comply. Surely this should be about the children being smart, courteous and doing well in their academic studies rather than the bullying techniques that Mr Fox is applying. I don't think this is a Head who cares I think he is out to make a name for himself.

Well said! So many people are commenting without having any insight into what is actually going on at that school. Hes gone in guns blazing upsetting staff and pupils and has failed to earn himself any respect whatsoever.

One of the most sensible comments on here. A time to comply should of been issued as they were told they were able to do some things by the old principle,then Mr Fox pops along with the new rules these should of been stated Mr M,sent letters out when he relaxed some rules,Mr Fox just charged in like a bull in a china shop,He would maybe of been given more support if parents had been made aware of the school gate inspections in advance and for some of the other issues that have been mentioned. As parents we are obligated to support our children,especially when some of the issues are so unfair,and with so many complaints their is obviously more to this story than many of the people commenting know. Wonder if you would be so keen to defend Mr Fox if it was your child who was upset,punish the wrongdoers,by all means but think before you judge every child,all children are not delinquents or liars,some are just trying to get through a day of school with as little grief as possible and dont need to be made late for classes unnecessarily.

Another parent prepared to blame others and not simply get on with applying the rules.

Stop whining and start being a parent!!!

If Mr Fox is as good as they imply, he would know that in fact, he is acting unlawfully if he excludes children purely on uniform issues. This is in breach of the exclusion laws. Funny how the school are now saying these children weren't excluded but given an authorised absent, and we should feel sorry for the governors it must be hard for them to admit they have made a terrible mistake.

matlock wrote:
I used to visit most of the schools in Sussex as part of my work, and I have always maintained that PCC was one of the most vile institutions I have ever been in. The behaviour of the kids was verging on anarchistic, and all staff had lost control. I remember waiting outside a classroom, listening to the teacher screaming over and over again for the kids to shut up, but he was fighting against a classroom full of kids retaliating by shouting and swearing at him. It transpired that it was the deputy head in that room. That cemented my view that the only solution was to close the school.

I commend the management style that Mr Fox has adopted. In this instance it is entirely necessary and is precisely what the kids, staff and parents need even if they don't yet realise it.

MIstified wrote:

Fudge001 wrote:

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.

is that your real name?

No, but did you get the reference?

Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection!

I am a parent and have brought my children up to listen to others but also talk them, that they have a right to their own opinions. They are well mannered, well adjusted individuals not clones of something out of Victorian times when children were seen and not heard.

S18..... wrote:

darkasnight1 wrote:
If the skirts are too short then its the schools fault as we have to buy the uniform from PACA,and just for the record my child leaves the house smart at all times "No flesh on show,No make up,and a very understated hairstyle" she was still stopped on the gate and accused of having false nails."NO" just clean and nicely shaped,and accused of having extreme hair,a eyebrow length straight fringe,Extreme is it ?? Well that must make me a social outcast !!!! This is just a ordinary secondary school and most of the children are being stopped even ones with a hole in their tights or trousers,we cannot afford the school uniform riddiculous prices to replace as often as liked as ALL uniform is bought through PACA...

It is a well known fact that some of the girls roll their skirts from the waist to make the skirt shorter. If this is not the case and the skirt is too short, then maybe a longer one should he been purchased in the begining as you can buy them in different lengths.

Legal1974 wrote:

hubby wrote:
Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.

The majority of the pupils we are talking about are not bad children, nor are the parents or teachers. This is about unreasonable disciplinary measures interrupting the pupils' education during important GCSE studies and exams by a bully who has gone about this in an entirely incorrect manner and is not leading by example. You have obviously not been keeping up with the comments on here. Your comment is completely irrelevant to the issues so I suggest you just keep your pointless opinions to yourself.

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Clear the trash out and give the decent kids a good education. There are rules in the workplace and British kids seem to struggle to accept them making migrant workers more attractive employees so this head is at least giving his students a head start on entering the workplace.

darkasnight1 wrote:
I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr

ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !!

just-a-person wrote:

darkasnight1 wrote: I am all for punishment when required but what this article fails to mention is that students have been removed from class after a science experiment with static making their hair untidy,Also children are being inspected on the gate for the stupidest things eg: a pair of socks,a hooded jacket under their blazer,its winter,do you go out in the cold with just a shirt and blazer ?? think not !!,Some children including my own who is now to terrified to come home and eat at lunchtime in case they are stopped or punished and they have a eating disorder which now means they dont eat all day as they are not allowed to eat outside ?? Lets see the staff not eating,This is what this fails to mention Mr Fox is intimidating children,who by no means are all angels but they are children and some are too shy/scared to stand up for themselves,I know of over 50 parents who are dealing with issues currently this must not be brushed off as just someone disciplining the misbehaving children as it is affecting all the pupils in one way or another and the whole school already stands on shaky ground,How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...??? And just for the record having the wind blow a fringe does not make it a extreme hairstyle,I hope the governors are bombarded with letters and i hope a fair and balanced full time headmaster/headmistr ess is found soon as maybe Mr fox should re-enlist if he wants to fulfil his desire for authority !!

"How would you like to go somewhere everyday where you felt unhappy/scared or on trial...???" I do and it is called work !!! The sad fact is that in life you have to follow rules so the quicker the kids get used to it the better.

johnroebuckofwhitrun wrote:
As a year 11 student, I think he has aimed to put his interests first and the schools (students and staff alike) second. We had a exam Thursday and loads of students missed out on their last lesson before the exam and a trip which had been especially set up for students to go to the University of Sussex for a last chance revision session. Mr M was the most hard-working member of staff at school and it is a disgrace that he has been replaced by this joker.

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed.
As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal.
Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market.
It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics.
Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed.
As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal.
Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market.
It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics.
Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.

trystero wrote:
Interestingly, the "Sponsors" section of the PACA website asserts that "all Aldridge academies" encourage their young people to - among other things - "reject the status quo".

However, it would appear that under Mr Fox's new regime (or "Neuordnung",perhaps

?), students engaging in such "rejection" - by such radical means as (say) wearing hairbands on their wrists or leaving the top buttons of their shirts undone under their ties - are to be Suitably Punished.

So - could it be that some of the claims made for "all Aldridge academies" are just the teensiest bit innacurate? Or, to put it a tad more bluntly, self-serving mendacious hogwash?

Indigatio wrote:
Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
I would advise any parent who is unhappy with their child being suspended from this school should make a written complaint about the head teacher to the chair of governors. .

funkyyoyo wrote:
well done mr new headteacher, 0% tollerance and if the parents dont like it...TOUGH !! its called school,where you learn manners discipline (an unknown word to some parents) and an education!!!

MIstified wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.

My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox

Legal1974 wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed.
As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal.
Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market.
It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics.
Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.

As you are a journalist, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A child is not an employee of the school and cannot, therefore, bring a claim in the employment tribunal (at which a person making a claim is an applicant, not a complainant). A claim for harassment, and negligence for that matter (the school could be negligent in denying education), can be brought in the law of tort at a county or high court, in which case the person making a claim is a claimant. The school may also be found to be in breach of its statutory obligations in relation to exclusions and expulsion. The point i was making about vicarious liability is that fox is an employee of the Aldridge Foundation. the AF is vicariously liable for the wrongdoings of its employees. Nothing at all to do with a claim in employment law. I'll do you a deal - don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to do yours

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Clear the trash out and give the decent kids a good education.
There are rules in the workplace and British kids seem to struggle to accept them making migrant workers more attractive employees so this head is at least giving his students a head start on entering the workplace.

Remus1996 wrote:
May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA.

How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are!

I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair!

With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS!

Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much!

Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh?

There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army!

MIstified wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Clear the trash out and give the decent kids a good education.
There are rules in the workplace and British kids seem to struggle to accept them making migrant workers more attractive employees so this head is at least giving his students a head start on entering the workplace.

If your employer treated you like Mr Fox is treating these children you would be contacting your union or a lawyer. At least as adults we have the right to protect ourselves against bullies. How does intimidating children prepare them for the workplace.

MIstified wrote:

Remus1996 wrote:
May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA.

How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are!

I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair!

With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS!

Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much!

Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh?

There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army!

We should all be listening to these students, they are the ones who have to face this every day. I work in education and know that we are there to teach the children about all aspects of life. Not man handle them in anyway. Yes some children are challenging but as professionals there are much better ways of dealing with them. If he yanks either of my children's collars or touches them at all inappropriately I will be seeking legal advice. And for those of you who have labelled all the children at PACA as hoodlums and criminals have you ever bothered to talk to any of them.

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote: You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed. As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal. Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market. It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics. Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.

As you are a journalist, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A child is not an employee of the school and cannot, therefore, bring a claim in the employment tribunal (at which a person making a claim is an applicant, not a complainant). A claim for harassment, and negligence for that matter (the school could be negligent in denying education), can be brought in the law of tort at a county or high court, in which case the person making a claim is a claimant. The school may also be found to be in breach of its statutory obligations in relation to exclusions and expulsion. The point i was making about vicarious liability is that fox is an employee of the Aldridge Foundation. the AF is vicariously liable for the wrongdoings of its employees. Nothing at all to do with a claim in employment law. I'll do you a deal - don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to do yours

Legal1974 - would do well to deal with 'the fact' rather than building a position based on rumour and hypothesis. I am not Rod. I am just a concerned parent and tax payer with a passion for improving our once great town. This is likely to be achieved by dealing with the miscreants in the Brighton population through increased accountability and contribution. To achieve this we need to address root cause, rather than dealing with the symptoms and in my opinion these first steps in this instance are now being taken. Parents should be working with and supporting the Head not bleating petty concerns on this site.

teacher3456 wrote:

MIstified wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.

My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox

Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.

Fudge001 wrote:

MIstified wrote:

Fudge001 wrote:

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.

is that your real name?

No, but did you get the reference?

Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection!

I am a parent and have brought my children up to listen to others but also talk them, that they have a right to their own opinions. They are well mannered, well adjusted individuals not clones of something out of Victorian times when children were seen and not heard.

Was a comment to Simon Petrikov

nocando wrote:

1o1o1o1 wrote:
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.

Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days.
This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is.
I blame the parents.

Mozartian wrote:
The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.

bikerjimbo wrote:
It seems to me that the parents need to get behind the head and the governors to ensure their children achieve the standards that the head requires. I am quessing that the negative comments are from people whose standards fall below that of the head so perhaps they should also heed his approach themselves. If the students are told to alter their dress or avoid make-up etc. then this should be done and not argued about. The interesting thing will be if the school improves both on Ofsted inspections and exam results. Mr Fox please do not adopt a softer approach until you see an improvment within your academy.

hectic666 wrote:

Fudge001 wrote:

MIstified wrote:

Fudge001 wrote:

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

SimonPetrikov457 wrote:
Being a year 11 student at the school, I have experienced these changes and regulations first hand. I'm in favour of Principal Fox's rules and I genuinely believe they are able to turn the school's reputation around. In the recent December Ofsted inspection, PACA received a rating of 3. This means we "require improvement." Of course this means we are in need of a principal who knows how to manage his students. Needless to say, Mr McLaughlin was an exceptional principal, there's no denying. However, you, the students, need to realize Mr Fox is not at the school to make friends, or be loved. He was specially employed to lead, and that is the attitude he needs to do so. People may have read the comments on his article on the Gazette and Herald. Many are positive about Mr Fox's leadership and even beg for him to come back! How can one say he is a bad person to have? Already, he is beginning to do good. Take his food rule for example. Yes, maybe he is being too ambitious with everyone eating in the Canteen, but the playground looks completely different to how it did before Christmas. There is now no litter, and within 3 weeks the presence of seagulls, which regularly target the school for food, will be non-existent. That's just a start. I personally predict a good future for the school and am just disappointed to not be able to witness it, as I leave in June. Maybe, if the students just abide by the rules and have their top buttons up, shirts tucked in etc and stop resisting in a pointless effort stand up and look like a force to be dealt with, they won't be excluded. Only then will they be able to fully benefit from what Mr Fox is trying to do. He is only with us until Easter, so why can you not just accept it. If he is here longer, good. I hope so. He is the best we will get for the time being and you should be grateful, but everyone is fixated on the belief that students don't need to listen and that is what Fox is going to stop. He will take us to the top. Times change, and we should too.

is that your real name?

No, but did you get the reference?

Were you wearing your crown while you posted this? If so maybe you could claim no recollection!

I am a parent and have brought my children up to listen to others but also talk them, that they have a right to their own opinions. They are well mannered, well adjusted individuals not clones of something out of Victorian times when children were seen and not heard.

Was a comment to Simon Petrikov

I'm 100% for respect and discipline which is what is needed,but can you answer me why at lunchtime in the canteen nearly 500 children are crammed into a room that has all doors except 1 that they must enter and exit locked with chains surely this is against health and safety rules.

Alan G Skinner wrote:
This is the way a School should be run, rules, discipline and a quality education. We have all seen standards eroded over the years and children who are all but feral. Good. Perhaps the parents who are complaining, should have a good look at themselves and their children’s infractions, repent and improve.

nocando wrote:

1o1o1o1 wrote:
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.

Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days.
This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is.
I blame the parents.

1o1o1o1 wrote:

nocando wrote:

1o1o1o1 wrote:
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.

Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days.
This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is.
I blame the parents.

for your infomation its bad teaching and not bad parenting, i come from a good parenting background,but unfortantly i have learning difficulties and these days in education there is not enougth support for children with these problems, so i apoligize if my grammer is not to your standard.

hectic666 wrote:

nocando wrote:

1o1o1o1 wrote:
well I am a student at paca personally I think the rules are to much .well lets get one thing straight i came in the other morning with some studs in my ears and nail vanish on and i had to go and sort it out i missed my lesson for it so making all the kids miss learning to go sort out there make up earrings and nails and also the the other stuff its stupid and they want us to be high achievers but we cant when we are not in class! ,and if we drink in a class it gets put in the bin , no one really knows what the school is like if they don't work or go there,anyway everyone is different everyone has there own looks and they cant change the way we like to look we are teenagers and we don't listen and we don't like people telling us how to look! its more about the learning then the uniform.

Employers aren't interested in school leavers these days.
This post does a very good job of demonstrating exactly why that is.
I blame the parents.

rules are put in place for a reason, everyone knows when they started at the school the rules no nail varnish wacky hairdo's etc even the parents signed the contract,so it is children like you that dont want to listen that make it harder for those that want an education if everyone has the same attitude to learning like you im not sure how you are going to get a job because you have to be told what to do in employment and mr fox wouldn't have to spend his whole day shouting at you all and maybe he will be able to smile soon

johnny_13 wrote:
I have had the dubious pleasure of meeting Mr Fox. Not in his capacity of head teacher, however in the 6th form to try and explain the reason behind my stepson being totally let down by the teaching that was gingerely offered. He asked me to email him with my complaints, specifically regarding the diminutive view I had of the support structure involved in the 6th form. I would suggest, as an educated and fairly reasoned individual, yes individual, and I affirm the statement as I have tattoo's, ride motorcycles so probably do not conform to any of his stereotypical parenting types, that this is nothing to do with Mr Fox. This is more to do with a company investing in a business model and seeing the investment not materialise in a timely fashion. Think of it per say Greg Stanley selling the Goldstone Ground to his own investment building company. If you cannot get the kids through the door, or more to the point the educational level to the correct standard needed for the government grants, you will have to foot the bill for the refurbishment single handed. Anyone who is an aggrieved parent, I fully understand your grievance, however put your money where your mouth is and collectively make a stand, get your OWN parents body together and stop waiting for an appointment. Sadly for us, with our a grade boy, it is too late and he has made other future plans. Also for those commending Mr Fox on his attitude, I would suggest you realise and understand how everything in your life is served up, waited to and delivered by very different, very individual people. Not everyone has tattoo's and not everyone is religious, and it is these individual merits that have made our great nation what it is, we have a turban wearing spin bowler beating the inventors of spin bowling in their country, and this is what we want to dictate is wrong to our future generation?????

funkyyoyo wrote:

Alan G Skinner wrote:
This is the way a School should be run, rules, discipline and a quality education. We have all seen standards eroded over the years and children who are all but feral. Good. Perhaps the parents who are complaining, should have a good look at themselves and their children’s infractions, repent and improve.

here here couldnt agree more with this comment,lets hope mr fox has 8 brothers in the teaching proffesion, about time the heads took control,and the parents open there eyes

just-a-person wrote:

S18..... wrote:

darkasnight1 wrote:
If the skirts are too short then its the schools fault as we have to buy the uniform from PACA,and just for the record my child leaves the house smart at all times "No flesh on show,No make up,and a very understated hairstyle" she was still stopped on the gate and accused of having false nails."NO" just clean and nicely shaped,and accused of having extreme hair,a eyebrow length straight fringe,Extreme is it ?? Well that must make me a social outcast !!!! This is just a ordinary secondary school and most of the children are being stopped even ones with a hole in their tights or trousers,we cannot afford the school uniform riddiculous prices to replace as often as liked as ALL uniform is bought through PACA...

It is a well known fact that some of the girls roll their skirts from the waist to make the skirt shorter. If this is not the case and the skirt is too short, then maybe a longer one should he been purchased in the begining as you can buy them in different lengths.

How expensive is the uniform ? My daughter used to leave the house and between that and getting to school rolled her skirt up as the other person said. I would say that the uniform was a very reasonable price and actually worked out cheaper than the old uniforms some still have in place.

kemptownmassive wrote:
Sounds like he's doing a good job. Many other schools across the world are lead by discipline and respect and churn out high class students who are greatful for a good education.

I know when I was at school I wouldn't of thought of having a drink in class as a student previously mentioned "we cant even have a drink in class"

I doubt any attempt at prosecution for not providing an education would also be futile as education is provided so long as the rules of the institution are followed.

The parents should have some common sense and actually want their children to achieve and so abide by the school rules rather than have their child grow up a delinquent individual leaving school with no prospects.

Sadly it's probably the parents that have instilled the lack of discipline/pride in their own children which has escalated down into we can do what we want.

Id like to add if many of these pupils turned up for a job interview or a to a place of professional employment everyday would they come with holes in their clothes and sit say behind a till/desk wherever wearing a coat.... no!

Some people need to get a grip and realise you need to take advantage of your education now or regret it in 10-15 years when you or your child is in some mundane job and unhappy at their prospects through your own failings.

daz0601 wrote:

HJarrs wrote:
Good on you Mr Fox, keep up the good work. What we need is an increase in petty rules. We need to crush creativity, as the children from this accademy should be prepared to be worker drones uncondtionally accepting the petty rules of future employers.

I hope that you extend this to the families; fathers should where ties at all times and mothers should not wear skirts that are too short. They should be checked for cleanliness and tidyness. Slovenly parenting is just simply unacceptable.

These rules are nothing to do with employing petty rules its about teaching kids right from wrong,children in this country on a whole at that age are unruley and have no respect for elders or rules,when i grew up u was scared of ur local bobbie on the beat or ur head master now the kids just tell them to f off and we as adults are to scared to punish for worry about reprisal,its about time someone got a grip

Indigatio wrote:
Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.

BrazCubas wrote:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work.
As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble.
Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

BrazCubas wrote:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work.
As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble.
Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?

Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.

Indigatio wrote:
Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.

StevieD wrote:

Indigatio wrote:
Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.

Absolutley right.

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

BrazCubas wrote:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work.
As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble.
Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?

Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.

Chieftain11 wrote:

Indigatio wrote:
Well done Mr Fox. Need more like him.

I support that view completely. It was nothing other than a training ground for yobs. Failure to support this interim headteacher will result in a rapid return to the old ways overnight.

mother_of_3 wrote:

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.

School is a place of LEARNING, not a place to mess around at. That school needed someone like Mr Fox when my daughter attended from 2010 to last summer due to bullying by students at that hellhole. Mr M was never reachable, the board of governors didn't give a ****; our complaints were passed on to Mr Robinson. Had Mr Fox been head when my daughter were there, the bullies would not have got away with it. That school is crap. Oh and btw, I also have my sister-in-law working at the hellhole.

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

mother_of_3 wrote:

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.

School is a place of LEARNING, not a place to mess around at. That school needed someone like Mr Fox when my daughter attended from 2010 to last summer due to bullying by students at that hellhole. Mr M was never reachable, the board of governors didn't give a ****; our complaints were passed on to Mr Robinson. Had Mr Fox been head when my daughter were there, the bullies would not have got away with it. That school is crap. Oh and btw, I also have my sister-in-law working at the hellhole.

I am a teacher and my students in my art class have fun every day doing their work.

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

BrazCubas wrote:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work.
As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble.
Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?

Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.

I sorry that as a child you did not have parents who gave you love and time and encouragement in growth of you creativity because maybe you would not have to use others to meet your high control needs.

GeorgeOrwell wrote:
What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered:

• Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results?
• Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite?
• Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen?
• And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school.

When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings.

As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.

Dave At Home wrote:

Mozartian wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.

Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?

trystero wrote:

GeorgeOrwell wrote:
What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered:

• Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results?
• Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite?
• Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen?
• And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school.

When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings.

As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.

Exactly!

BrazCubas wrote:

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

BrazCubas wrote:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this comment thread. It's incredible to read of so many parents who think it's outrageous that the school rules (all of which have been freely available since September 2011) are actually being enforced. All year groups had an assembly on the first day back in which the 'zero tolerance' policy was clearly introduced. A letter went home Tuesday, reminding parents of expectations. Didn't you get it? Perhaps your children are being economical with the truth? Many students have been excluded, not for having a hole in their tights (that would be ridiculous) but for exhibiting the kind of defiant behaviour that is being modelled on this forum & would get them sacked at work.
As for the comments about how awful PACA kids are, I can assure you that they are among the most amazing young people I have ever had the privilege to work with. Some of them have parents in jail, yes, but whoever suggested that they are destined for a similar fate ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It is precisely because every single one of them deserves the best possible start in life that this crackdown has been put in place. If their parents haven't instilled discipline and self-respect into their children, & the school doesn't address this, then they really are in trouble.
Incredible that one participant thinks teachers are posing as year 11s! I can assure you that a) teachers don't have time for such machinations b) many year 11s are perfectly capable of using semi-colons. If you find the student responses suspiciously articulate, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against our young people?

Please close the lid of your box and go back to join your herd before any more of the sheep escape, you are so so scared of non conformists and the fear you feel when you realise you are just one person.

I sorry that as a child you did not have parents who gave you love and time and encouragement in growth of you creativity because maybe you would not have to use others to meet your high control needs.

I don't know where to start in addressing your hilarious and wildly inaccurate assumptions about me, Mrs Newcastle, so I won't bother.

Mayan Turkey wrote:
The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children.

The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food?
The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing.

Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing.

Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point.

Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'.

It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.

Legal1974 wrote:

hubby wrote:
Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.

The majority of the pupils we are talking about are not bad children, nor are the parents or teachers. This is about unreasonable disciplinary measures interrupting the pupils' education during important GCSE studies and exams by a bully who has gone about this in an entirely incorrect manner and is not leading by example. You have obviously not been keeping up with the comments on here. Your comment is completely irrelevant to the issues so I suggest you just keep your pointless opinions to yourself.

Legal1974 wrote:

Dave At Home wrote:

Mozartian wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.

Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?

Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated.

As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours.

Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.

Ballroom Blitz wrote:
We need more heads like him. The article clearly states that all pupils in question were given the option to conform to his standards. Some refused. They are children. They need to learn to do as they are told. He did the right thing.
Who is running the school, after all.

Mayan Turkey wrote:
The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children.

The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food?
The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing.

Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing.

Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point.

Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'.

It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

mother_of_3 wrote:

Mrs Newcastle wrote:
Dear students, please remember that school comes to a end and that as students you can move on to the city's wonderful colleges. Education is lifelong so please don't worry to much about exams at 16, please try not to take the challenging behavoiur of Mr Fox to personally and ignore him, have fun, a school is not a business.

School is a place of LEARNING, not a place to mess around at. That school needed someone like Mr Fox when my daughter attended from 2010 to last summer due to bullying by students at that hellhole. Mr M was never reachable, the board of governors didn't give a ****; our complaints were passed on to Mr Robinson. Had Mr Fox been head when my daughter were there, the bullies would not have got away with it. That school is crap. Oh and btw, I also have my sister-in-law working at the hellhole.

I am a teacher and my students in my art class have fun every day doing their work.

If your comments are based on any element of truth (I suspect they are not) then its teachers like you that fail our younger generations. Its frankly about time that under performing teachers are identified and performance managed out of their roles.

poppet wrote:
Can people please remember before they comment that this is a normal school we are talking about, its not a Young Offenders Institute, but that is how most parents see their children being treated. There are scores of kids that have never been in trouble and are what would be seen as "good kids" not terrified to go into school incase they inadvertently break a newly made up rule and get excluded. The fear really is that bad and its not a way to install confidence into kids and its certainly not a way to gain respect

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

MIstified wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.

My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox

Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.

please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.

mother_of_3 wrote:

Mayan Turkey wrote:
The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children.

The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food?
The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing.

Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing.

Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point.

Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'.

It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.

what does your post have to do with a FAILING school being given a HEAD TEACHER who will take no cr*p and DEAL with it???? answer, NOTHING!!!!

teacher3456 wrote:

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

MIstified wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.

My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox

Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.

please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.

I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.

trystero wrote:

GeorgeOrwell wrote:
What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered:

• Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results?
• Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite?
• Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen?
• And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school.

When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings.

As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.

Exactly!

alice1 wrote:
Mr Fox when you have finish at paca could you see if you can get in to cardinal newman Thank you

Mayan Turkey wrote:

mother_of_3 wrote:

Mayan Turkey wrote:
The UK has one of the highest underage pregnancy rates in the developed world. In a number of these cases parents and teachers have ignored that males over the age of 18 are having sex with children.

The UK is the most tattooed nation in Europe whilst maintaining alarming child poverty - so many parents have the money for tats and skunk but not food?
The UK has one of the largest prison populations in Europe per capita despite lenient custodial sentencing.

Exam results improve year-on-year but illiteracy is increasing.

Something has gone wrong and the 'scumbag to conscientious person ratio' seems to have reached a tipping-point.

Funny how school uniforms are too expensive but so many parents always 'ave enuff for fags'.

It takes years of political corruption, greed and stupidity to achieve this level of balls up. It's not going to improve.

what does your post have to do with a FAILING school being given a HEAD TEACHER who will take no cr*p and DEAL with it???? answer, NOTHING!!!!

It puts forward the underlying reasons for the failure you mention and gives reasons why it's probably too late to effect real and lasting change - irrespective of carrot or stick. Corruption, greed and stupidity - essential elements for degradation in society...which depends on education.

Your capitalisation made me think of a school related joke:
Teacher: "children, what is the capital of France?"
Academy inmate 22910: "F, Miss"

Murphy41 wrote:
I am a student at Portslade Aldridge Community Academy and I had a great amount of respect for Mr Fox when he first started as a student should toward their teacher's but however as the week went on that respect lowered. Personally I don't think what happened in Mr Fox's previous school's really matter it's how he presents himself and does his work here but that's just my opinion. I have been in many lessons now where Mr Fox has stormed in with an aggressive tone of voice checking if everyone's top button is done up , barking at people to sit up straight and then ranting to the class about how he's only putting these rules in place so we can get ''nice houses , nice cars and good lives'' he also normally asks the teacher to step outside to talk to him. I think it's brilliant that we have a head teacher who's so passionate about what he does and is so disciplined because that's what our school needs but the way Mr Fox is going about it isn't the best , although a school is a place of education and is there to craft our future's he has stripped all individuality from students not letting us wear nail varnish, wearing hardly any make up , not allowing jewelry and a lot of other things and I think we should be aloud at least a small bit of individuality while we're there at least. I also don't like the way Mr Fox is going about exclusions, he has excluded too many people over tiny pathetic reasons and I have witnessed most of them , in the assembly we had the week we came back Mr Fox put a list of what we couldn't do or wear on the projector and what the consequences were if we broke the rules and a student in year 10 put her hand up and asked a question about the uniform and Mr Fox shouted ''that's it you're out for two days'' and a member of staff took her out of assembly and she got sent home which personally I think it was absolutely ridiculous. Although Mr Fox is making a drastic change around the school he is also making it worse at the same time and I think the ofsted and school governors should listen to the students opinions on the changes made more as the whole idea of the place changing is for our benefit after all.

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

MIstified wrote:

Remus1996 wrote:
May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA.

How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are!

I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair!

With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS!

Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much!

Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh?

There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army!

We should all be listening to these students, they are the ones who have to face this every day. I work in education and know that we are there to teach the children about all aspects of life. Not man handle them in anyway. Yes some children are challenging but as professionals there are much better ways of dealing with them. If he yanks either of my children's collars or touches them at all inappropriately I will be seeking legal advice. And for those of you who have labelled all the children at PACA as hoodlums and criminals have you ever bothered to talk to any of them.

Please see my last post and if you think your children may be 'targeted' for collar pulling and, or being touched inappropriately then address the issues with your children now like any half-decent parent would.

As a parent YOU are accountable, time to step up to the mark rather than making veiled threats re action you intend to take!

brightonearly wrote:
I would like to say what a difference Mr Fox has made in a week. The majority of rules are NOT new! The students have just been allowed to get away with doing as they please for too long. The way some of the students speak to peers and staff, was disgusting, they turn up when they want to, some have no respect for their environment, with thousands of pounds of damage already been done to new areas of the school and coming to school looking like they were off nightclubbing. If they were going to work like that, they would be sacked immediately. Part of going to school is learning skills and behaviours that will help you when you leave school and go into the big wide world.
Alot of things being reported are not true such as students not being allowed to wear coats to school. That is nonsense! Of course they can wear a coat to school - the rule is that they take it off when they get in the door...is that not normal behaviour? Would you keep your coat on once you get home or if you go visiting friends? The number of students being reported as excluded is also rubbish.
Mr Fox is a breath of fresh air and a very welcome one especially when you have daily battles with students for their behaviour and lack of self respect and pride.
All students are aware of the rules (yes, most of them have been in place for over a year!!) and as long as they stick to them, they will not be in trouble. As a parent myself, I taught my children to be polite, have good manners and show respect. Unfortunately, not all parents are the same and now they don't like it when someone else tries to do it for them! Long may Mr Fox reign at PACA!

concernedmother1 wrote:

trystero wrote:

GeorgeOrwell wrote:
What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered:

• Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results?
• Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite?
• Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen?
• And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school.

When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings.

As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.

Exactly!

totally agree. Why would somebody want a legal agreement to keep his previous suspension hush hush if it isnt anything to worry about?

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

MIstified wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.

My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox

Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.

please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.

I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.

No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.

teacher3456 wrote:

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

MIstified wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.

My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox

Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.

please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.

I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.

No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.

Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today.
By the way woud you learn how to spell would.

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

Dave At Home wrote:

Mozartian wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.

Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?

Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.

Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

Dave At Home wrote:

Mozartian wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.

Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?

Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.

Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

Dave At Home wrote:

Mozartian wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.

Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?

Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.

Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.

Mrs Newcastle wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

Dave At Home wrote:

Mozartian wrote: The observation in the Ofsted report that teachers have to struggle with challenging behaviour is a damning one. Undoubtedly there are some enthusiastic, hard-working students there, but the side is being let-down by a time-wasting, disruptive element.

Not a mention yet of the coaches that use to leave the school at 8.30 in the morning of an Ofsted inspection, full of disruptive kids for a jolly good day at Thorpe Park. And just for the record, the most disruptive kids in the school are the ones that have/were excluded from other B&H schools, who have never wanted to learn but turn the place into mess. For example, a glass panel being kicked out of the door was not done by a child from the catchment area per-say. I can't really see why Rod Aldridge wants to do anything with the school especially when he said the area has a higher than average number of NEET's, not helped by their unemployed parents who just sit at home and will not find work. Most parents have full time jobs and quite often work far away from Mile Oak, hence them not being able to make a parents evenings because they are still travelling home when the meetings take place. What a shame the school is being run as a business and not as a place of education, but will the Ofsted officers be able to see through the whitewash from people like HW-F and give a proper opinion?

Well said Dave and thank you for your support. You don't say that you have children at the school but reading your past posts (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with), I assume that you don't so your support is greatly appreciated. As for some of the posts on here which support Mr Fox and the AF (from people that have absolutely nothing to do with the school) and which complain at the level of education of young people, I am truly shocked at your own spelling and grammatical skills. Maybe you should go back to school yourselves. My year 11 daughter (who does go to this school) has far superior spelling and grammatical (and, no doubt, mathematical) skills than you do. She is an ‘A’ student who is set to go to university to study science and is not destined for the dole but for job prospects which will far exceed yours. Trystero, carry on pointing out these errors - priceless.

Not another one, you seem to have some self esteem problems of yourself. pleease goo and gget some thearpy love. i make fine mistakes , there my best part they remind me that i am human being.

trystero wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

MIstified wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.

My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox

Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.

please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.

I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.

No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.

Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today.
By the way woud you learn how to spell would.

repartee
n
1. a sharp, witty, or aphoristic remark made as a reply
2. terse rapid conversation consisting of such remarks
3. skill in making sharp witty replies or conversation


(Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003)

So the remark MIGHT be written rather than spoken. On the other hand, there's little excuse for THIS sort of thing:

"Writing well in your own language woud (sic.) be a good start."

"...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today."

Pot - meet Kettle. Kettle - meet Pot.

trystero wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

MIstified wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.

My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox

Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.

please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.

I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.

No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.

Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today.
By the way woud you learn how to spell would.

repartee
n
1. a sharp, witty, or aphoristic remark made as a reply
2. terse rapid conversation consisting of such remarks
3. skill in making sharp witty replies or conversation


(Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003)

So the remark MIGHT be written rather than spoken. On the other hand, there's little excuse for THIS sort of thing:

"Writing well in your own language woud (sic.) be a good start."

"...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today."

Pot - meet Kettle. Kettle - meet Pot.

teacher3456 wrote:

trystero wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

MIstified wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.

My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox

Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.

please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.

I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.

No you're not, you're a troll. Doctors are cleverer than you and I can happily say there's very little in your repartee that I or anyone else could possibly benefit from. So sleep sound, you won't be required to teach anyone anything just yet, not until you've learnt something yourself. Writing well in your own language woud be a good start.

Repartee is to do with speech not the written word. There you go, you have learnt a very useful new today.
By the way woud you learn how to spell would.

repartee
n
1. a sharp, witty, or aphoristic remark made as a reply
2. terse rapid conversation consisting of such remarks
3. skill in making sharp witty replies or conversation


(Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003)

So the remark MIGHT be written rather than spoken. On the other hand, there's little excuse for THIS sort of thing:

"Writing well in your own language woud (sic.) be a good start."

"...you have learnt a very useful new (sic.) today."

Pot - meet Kettle. Kettle - meet Pot.

Repartee is to do with conversation. If you don't know that then you must be of
need of some education. I referring to my learned friend the aforementioned had used the word woud before, as you would have notice if you could read.

harveyxo wrote:
If you've just come onto this article to blame the parents and slate/insult the students at PACA you have no idea.
As a student attending this school I take my education seriously and feel lesson time is wasted so we can be looked up and down for uniform.

Comments above insinuate suspended students shall have criminal records and that parents are to blame.
Who do you think you are to brand people as 'bad parents' my parents have bought me up to know right from wrong and to respect people yet I was told of for having a hairband on my wrist as I has sports later that day. How pathetic.
If you are not a student at this school or a parent of a tutor this is not your issue to tackle.

hubby wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

hubby wrote: Bad children are not born,they are created. Bad parents,bad teachers and generally bad role models all contribute to this.

The majority of the pupils we are talking about are not bad children, nor are the parents or teachers. This is about unreasonable disciplinary measures interrupting the pupils' education during important GCSE studies and exams by a bully who has gone about this in an entirely incorrect manner and is not leading by example. You have obviously not been keeping up with the comments on here. Your comment is completely irrelevant to the issues so I suggest you just keep your pointless opinions to yourself.

So we agree that this headmaster is a bad role model? Which in turn encourages his pupils to rebel and behave badly? These children were presumably not born this way? Only bullies try to steamroller other peoples opinions. I worked for many years in the probation service.Often my duties involved me with the Youth Offending Team. I am now teaching. Children and young adults respond best to fairness and understanding. They hate being talked down to and being given "orders" for the sake of it. Every child is an individual and should be treated as such. For some the "iron fist" may work.Others need the "velvet glove". If you try to treat a group of individuals with their own thoughts and opinions exactly the same then you will always get problems. Who is in charge of pastoral care at the school? Who is listening to what the pupils are saying? In my experience the freshest and most sensible ideas come from the pupils rather than the staff.

Remus1996 wrote:
And another thing, I don't like the way that us students are being made out to be lazy, unwilling to learn and that we do not take our educations seriously as, once again, that applies to a minority of students, probably about 15-25 people in an entire school of 800. I, for one, am taking on 11 GCSEs, two of which I have already obtained at Grade A (fast track French and maths). One of which is a double award course in which I must create two folders of portfolios which takes daily writing up and additional research, so I must be hard-working in order to succeed. So many people are doing the same amount of courses as I am and are achieving outstanding grades and you don't get that by sitting on your backside all day! Furthermore, we are all very practical and analytical, so we all take our future careers seriously. For instance, I have planned to do A-levels, university and then go on to become a primary school teacher, so I believe that we do not get nearly as much respect as we deserve. Just think about that when you next think of putting the PACA pupils down because this student will defend every single person in the entire academy.

Legal1974 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:

Legal1974 wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote: You are making some serious allegations about staff at this school and if you have sat through as many employment hearings as I have as a journalist few bullying and harassment cases succeed. Usually the cases have not been upheld because the complainant has misunderstood what bullying and harassment means and the raft of evidence needed. As for the workplace. You have to be joking. In these tough times, any employees failing to jump to the beat of the employers drum or whim are being ruthlessly axed all over the place and few stand a chance in a tribunal. Also go to schools across the world. They are churning out kids who can tolerate tough environments which is why British kids are losing out in the ruthless job market. It's a tough world and sadly the nurturing approach has been shoved out of the way by economics. Maybe you should change schools if you want a different approach. One size doesn't fit all.

As you are a journalist, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A child is not an employee of the school and cannot, therefore, bring a claim in the employment tribunal (at which a person making a claim is an applicant, not a complainant). A claim for harassment, and negligence for that matter (the school could be negligent in denying education), can be brought in the law of tort at a county or high court, in which case the person making a claim is a claimant. The school may also be found to be in breach of its statutory obligations in relation to exclusions and expulsion. The point i was making about vicarious liability is that fox is an employee of the Aldridge Foundation. the AF is vicariously liable for the wrongdoings of its employees. Nothing at all to do with a claim in employment law. I'll do you a deal - don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to do yours

Legal1974 - would do well to deal with 'the fact' rather than building a position based on rumour and hypothesis. I am not Rod. I am just a concerned parent and tax payer with a passion for improving our once great town. This is likely to be achieved by dealing with the miscreants in the Brighton population through increased accountability and contribution. To achieve this we need to address root cause, rather than dealing with the symptoms and in my opinion these first steps in this instance are now being taken. Parents should be working with and supporting the Head not bleating petty concerns on this site.

So your child goes to this school?

teacher3456 wrote:

nocando wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:

MIstified wrote:

teacher3456 wrote:
PACA has had 5 Head teacher's since 2009. The blame for this situation must be directed at Brighton Council. How many children's lives have been wasted at PACA/PCC. Hove park is a simular school and they obtained a 60% pass rate last year.

My son has been at the school since 2009 and there have now been three heads, Mr Tate, Mr M and now the not so fantastic Mr Fox

Between Mr Tate and Mr M Their were two acting heads. I know that Mark Whitby who has been subsequently sack at ACE, was one, However, having 5 different leaders in 4 this time it is not the way to run a brewery, let alone a school.

please tell me, teacher3456, exactly how you became a teacher when you clearly possess the grammatical ability of a nine year old.
If I were you I'd sack myself before my shortcomings rubbed off on too many impressionable youngsters.

I am a doctor. I am happy to say that the thought of teaching you would give me nightmares.

GeorgeOrwell wrote:
What is happening at PACA is nothing short of a disgrace. The enforcement of silly rules is only a part of it, and distracts from the real issues. A number of questions need to be answered:

• Why was Mr McLaughlin forced to leave on such short notice, when the school has just achieved their best ever exam results?
• Why was he made to say “I cannot take the academy any further” when he has spent the last 3 years saying and proving the opposite?
• Why did the governors pretend not to have a replacement in mind when it was clear Mr Fox had already been chosen?
• And of course - what were the circumstances surrounding Mr Fox’s departure from his last school? Why on earth was an injunction granted preventing this information from being made public? There is a public interest here – this man is in charge of a school. As parents we deserve to know, and if he can't answer then he shouldn’t be in charge of a school.

When Mr McLaughlin was appointed, there was a rigorous selection process involving teachers, governors, parents, and the local authority. Here we have a coronation of a man with a shady past, on the premise that he was a last-minute ‘interim’ appointment when it is clear that he was waiting in the wings.

As parents we should demand an answer to these questions, that the position is advertised ASAP, and that there is a fair and transparent selection process.

xlaughingx wrote:
Imagine how wonderfully educated,well balanced ,and prepared for society the students would be if they followed the rules and maintained the school standards (obviously backed all the way by their supportive and caring parents) - the teaching staff and management could focus on the actual teaching and learning .Get the small things right & the rest will follow.

whywhywhy123 wrote:
read the ofsted report, paca need change, come on mr fox, sort out the teaching as well,

MIstified wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:

MIstified wrote:

Remus1996 wrote:
May I just say, I have just read nearly all of the 159 comments so far and I am appauled at people's attitudes towards the students of PACA.

How on earth can people say things like 'I expect the people excluded to get criminal records' when most of you probably have no clue who any of us are!

I am a PROUD year 11 student of the academy and I can tell you now that we do not deserve the label that people have put on us. Even the people who have created trouble or have not focused in the past are actually really nice people! We are being categorized for the actions of students before our time, which is unfair!

With regards to the rules, the way that he is enforcing the rules is through unnecessary punishments, which is cruel. There have been students excluded for simply stating their opinions of the rules. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSING OUR FEELINGS!

Plus, I am sure that it is unsafe to have around 800 students packed so tightly into such a small space! I, personally, skipped lunch today, despite being starving, as I didn't fancy being elbowed in the back of the head by numerous unknown students, thank you very much!

Also, If he grabs my collar as he has done to other students, I will not bite my tongue any longer, as this is illegal unless I am harming someone else. What an excellent role model, eh?

There mush be a better way to handle the situation! I miss Mr McLoughlin. You could tell that he really cared about our well-being and education. Pardon my French, but this sneaky Fox doesn't give a cr*p about us. He doesn't even pretend to! If he wanted to control hundreds of innocent people, he could have stayed in the army!

We should all be listening to these students, they are the ones who have to face this every day. I work in education and know that we are there to teach the children about all aspects of life. Not man handle them in anyway. Yes some children are challenging but as professionals there are much better ways of dealing with them. If he yanks either of my children's collars or touches them at all inappropriately I will be seeking legal advice. And for those of you who have labelled all the children at PACA as hoodlums and criminals have you ever bothered to talk to any of them.

Please see my last post and if you think your children may be 'targeted' for collar pulling and, or being touched inappropriately then address the issues with your children now like any half-decent parent would.

As a parent YOU are accountable, time to step up to the mark rather than making veiled threats re action you intend to take!

Neither of my children have ever been in trouble and are both hard working students. That doesn't mean he has a right to put all children under the same umbrella and randomly march up to children and yank their shirt collars to see if their top buttons are done up. So you should find out the full facts before you make your biggotted comments, if it was happening to your child maybe you would choice to ignore it.