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Call for political parties in Brighton and Hove to unite against Tories (From The Argus)
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Call for political parties in Brighton and Hove to unite against Tories
10:00am Monday 14th January 2013 in News By Neil Vowles
A council leader has called on opposing political parties to unite in a bid to oust Conservative MPs from Brighton and Hove at the next election.
City council leader Jason Kitcat said that political leaders should put aside “party tribalism” and work together to prevent a repeat of the 2010 election when the Tories took two of the three seats in the city.
Writing on his blog, Coun Kitcat advised Labour against wasting huge resources campaigning on all three of the city’s seats only to finish their campaign without a city MP.
He said the Green Party would “throw everything we have at Brighton Pavilion” but denied that his blog implied that they would prioritise Caroline Lucas’s seat and allow Labour a free run at regaining their Hove and Kemptown seats.
Labour figures in the city rejected the call and said there would be no pacts or backroom deals.
The three Brighton seats sit high among the priorities nationally for Labour in a recently released list of target seats.
'Progressive majority'
In his blog, Coun Kitcat said a “broader electoral effort” than just Labour voters was needed to ensure progressive MPs were elected, and it required Greens, trade unionists and disaffected Lib Dems to pull together.
He wrote there was a “progressive majority” in the city with the “vast majority” of residents against the Coalition parties and their policies.
In the 2010 election, more than half of all voters plumped for Coalition parties in Brighton Kemptown and Hove.
Coun Kitcat said: “It’s not tribalist to have a mature debate about how this city can ensure progressive politics succeed in the 2015 elections.
Defending seat
“My blog merely reaffirms my personal view that Greens will be very keen to defend Caroline’s seat, but makes no comment nor commitment on how resources will be allocated to other seats we are likely to contest.”
Conservative deputy leader Garry Peltzer Dunn said Coun Kitcat was “clutching at straws”.
He said: “To make these sort of claims two-and-a-half years before an election is the height of absurdity. The Green Party are as different from Labour as they are from Conservative.”
Labour deputy leader Councillor Warren Morgan said: “The Greens have shown no qualms about defeating Labour candidates and councillors, in some cases taking the seats themselves.”
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Comments(37)
Vigilia
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10:22am Mon 14 Jan 13
Phani Tikkala
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10:29am Mon 14 Jan 13
wexler53
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10:31am Mon 14 Jan 13
Mark_Hove
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10:38am Mon 14 Jan 13
anubis
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10:48am Mon 14 Jan 13
Ironically, if it's authoritarian rule you seek, the Greens and the Tories are the 'natural' allies!
see and speak sense
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10:49am Mon 14 Jan 13
boblat
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10:56am Mon 14 Jan 13
AGT999
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10:57am Mon 14 Jan 13
Surely not!
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11:05am Mon 14 Jan 13
SussexLifeform
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11:18am Mon 14 Jan 13
It would appear that Kitcat isn't quite as detached from reality as he may appear - the general tone on here and elsewhere suggests that the electorate have realised the great green experiment hasn't achieved anything of any note save higher taxes, parking charges, and 200yds of bike lane along the Shoreham Road.
Certainly all the fluff and bluster they arrived with has amounted to nought.
s_james
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11:20am Mon 14 Jan 13
upsidedowntuctuc
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11:58am Mon 14 Jan 13
If anyone seriously thinks that Ms Lucas will be re elected they are 'green' behind the ears!
What has she done for the City apart from attract a conference on squatting?
By the time the election comes round the Greens will be as popular in this City as a Muscle car at one of their conferences.
whereisthe...?
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12:09pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Bob_The_Ferret
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12:10pm Mon 14 Jan 13
lordenglandofsussex
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12:11pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Conservative: The Nasty Party.
Only one party will save Britain from millions of immigrants and the EU.
Support UKIP and rid the country of the Marxist dogs who have wrecked Britain.
george smith
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12:31pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Lib dens almost nowhere to be seen.
Algeria Touchshriek
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12:40pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Surely not! wrote:Mrs Kitekat.
Curious the invective on here. Interestingly those that call the greens authoritarian are the most unpleasant and abusive. I simply cannot understand the tribalism on here. It reminds me of the little groups of thugs on West Street on a Saturday night only without the dignity! i really have little idea of what kitkat is like as a politician. I live in a solid Labour ward so my vote really doesn't count. All I know is that the words used to describe him on here are childish and immature. I can't begin to imagine what goes on in your minds that you can write this stuff, let alone post it. I wonder how many of you would stand up and say it to his face?
You have been told not to post about your darling son on here already, you know it makes him all shy!!
Whilst you are there however, can you tell him to wear a tie and have shave and wash. He may think he is "cool" to look like Wurzel Gummidge but really it's not.
gaz scott
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1:08pm Mon 14 Jan 13
lordenglandofsussex wrote:There are more Space Cadets in UKIP than even the Green Party.
Labour: The Evil Party.
Conservative: The Nasty Party.
Only one party will save Britain from millions of immigrants and the EU.
Support UKIP and rid the country of the Marxist dogs who have wrecked Britain.
Surely not!
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1:22pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Algeria Touchshriek wrote:HaHa.. you are the real Jason Kitcat and I claim my five pounds. I am afraid naming yourself after an obscure Bowie song about a mad sad old man who has become frightened by the world outside his window is just too obvious. Please be more subtle next time.
Surely not! wrote:Mrs Kitekat.
Curious the invective on here. Interestingly those that call the greens authoritarian are the most unpleasant and abusive. I simply cannot understand the tribalism on here. It reminds me of the little groups of thugs on West Street on a Saturday night only without the dignity! i really have little idea of what kitkat is like as a politician. I live in a solid Labour ward so my vote really doesn't count. All I know is that the words used to describe him on here are childish and immature. I can't begin to imagine what goes on in your minds that you can write this stuff, let alone post it. I wonder how many of you would stand up and say it to his face?
You have been told not to post about your darling son on here already, you know it makes him all shy!!
Whilst you are there however, can you tell him to wear a tie and have shave and wash. He may think he is "cool" to look like Wurzel Gummidge but really it's not.
stir up
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1:39pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Morpheus
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1:53pm Mon 14 Jan 13
funkyyoyo
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2:07pm Mon 14 Jan 13
hahahahaha jog on kitty!!!!
rayellerton
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2:39pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Rostrum
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3:55pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Dealing with idiots
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4:34pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Sign our e-petition
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sedwardsESQ
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5:08pm Mon 14 Jan 13
So what's so green without the claws or is it perhaps a fact that you need the liberals for a scapegoat for when we find out how you have wasted our budget?
Fight_Back
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6:15pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Maybe, just maybe, Jason, if YOUR party councillors bothered to answer residents complaints / comments in a timely manner ( i.e. BEFORE the council debate on the topic ) then you'd deserve some respect. As you nor your party do this I really can't see why anyone should listen to you.
jc897
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6:23pm Mon 14 Jan 13
sedwardsESQ
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7:38pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Surely not! wrote:I would stand up and say to him but I not sure he would...........lol
Curious the invective on here. Interestingly those that call the greens authoritarian are the most unpleasant and abusive. I simply cannot understand the tribalism on here. It reminds me of the little groups of thugs on West Street on a Saturday night only without the dignity! i really have little idea of what kitkat is like as a politician. I live in a solid Labour ward so my vote really doesn't count. All I know is that the words used to describe him on here are childish and immature. I can't begin to imagine what goes on in your minds that you can write this stuff, let alone post it. I wonder how many of you would stand up and say it to his face?
sedwardsESQ
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7:54pm Mon 14 Jan 13
l I can assure it is not something that was given to someone but instead forced upon them in response to serious allegations they could not respond.
sedwardsESQ
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8:05pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Mark_Hove wrote:Mark it would make no difference, I can assure you like any politician would do (if honest) these policy's have already been made well in advance and even if UKIP took seat these policy's will still have to be carried out as per plan.
He's right though isn't he. The Tory party is awful and must be rid of in the next election by whatever means necessary!
Idontbelieveit1948
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8:30pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Jase and Bill went up the hill
To fetch a pail of Green slop,
The bucket broke and drenched the folk
Who couldn’t shift it with sponge or mop.
Jase rushed down and looked around
And collapsed with so much laughter,
Because he’d seen we’d all turned green
And that was what he was after.
Green leader Bill took in his fill
And said to Jase with much flair,
I’ve had enough of all this guff
I think I’ll buzz off and be Mayor
So Jase took charge and gave it large
To travellers and people that do squat,
As Brighton gains yet more cycle lanes,
Our verges and parks all go to pot
Soon folk could tell the terrible smell
Was getting worse all of the time
‘twas all about the slop Greens spout
Gradually turning into slime
Yes, Jase did make a big mistake
Because the Green slop soon faded,
We don’t like Greens so much it seems
When their lustre is stained and faded.
And as it seems folk don’t like Greens
For Jase & co it will end in tears
With de-slection at the next election
And a fervent hope that they disappear
sedwardsESQ
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10:20pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Idontbelieveit1948 wrote:Idontbe, shouldn't it end : "disappear without protest" but I luv it anyway....lol
Oh dear Jase, finally tumbled have you - people really don't like your Greens, not just because you are a bunch of weirdo zealots but because you have actually done much damage to our city. We really don't want hee any more but here's a parting gift in th form of a nursery rhyme for our times ;-
Jase and Bill went up the hill
To fetch a pail of Green slop,
The bucket broke and drenched the folk
Who couldn’t shift it with sponge or mop.
Jase rushed down and looked around
And collapsed with so much laughter,
Because he’d seen we’d all turned green
And that was what he was after.
Green leader Bill took in his fill
And said to Jase with much flair,
I’ve had enough of all this guff
I think I’ll buzz off and be Mayor
So Jase took charge and gave it large
To travellers and people that do squat,
As Brighton gains yet more cycle lanes,
Our verges and parks all go to pot
Soon folk could tell the terrible smell
Was getting worse all of the time
‘twas all about the slop Greens spout
Gradually turning into slime
Yes, Jase did make a big mistake
Because the Green slop soon faded,
We don’t like Greens so much it seems
When their lustre is stained and faded.
And as it seems folk don’t like Greens
For Jase & co it will end in tears
With de-slection at the next election
And a fervent hope that they disappear
BobWiddecombe
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1:30pm Tue 15 Jan 13
sedwardsESQ
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6:32pm Tue 15 Jan 13
BobWiddecombe wrote:Did you know that you could cycle that same journey faster if you fit.
This isnt as crazy as it sounds, greens could form a Lab/LibDem coalition versus a Conservative/UKIP coalition, lets hope that whoever forms the next government really takes transport seriously, my train hasnt run on time in the evening peak since the timetable change on the 30 year old train I am forced to travel on then change onto a 40 year old train with no toilets, (thats after spending 20 mins on a packed out Jubilee line from Stratford) then the train fare went up and the car parking, of course thats when the line isnt blocked between Brighton and Three Bridges and we are forced onto buses that happens more often. Whens this new rail link connecting upto the High Speed Line at Ashford into Thames Gateway and Stratford happening so we dont have to go on cross London Underground journeys from hell! or shall we all just go and work in retail on our fading high streets locally and loose our jobs when they go bust, WH Smiths? Superdrug? Boots anyone...
Just asking!
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10:45pm Tue 15 Jan 13
Algeria Touchshriek says...
10:18am Mon 14 Jan 13
I suppose with a party so full of hate and uselessness, it is to be expected.