Section of Brighton's West Pier collapses into the sea

Part of the West Pier is missing

The West Pier with the midding girders

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Brighton's iconic West Pier is crumbling into the sea.

Heritage experts have urged people to make the most of one of Brighton and Hove’s most iconic landmarks before it disappears forever.

The West Pier Trust confirmed that a section of the eastern side of the pier had collapsed over the weekend as a result of the bad weather.

There are fears that more of the derelict Victorian structure – already ravaged by two fires – could disappear in the near future.

West Pier Trust member and Brighton resident Martin Brown was one of the first to spot the damage. He photographed the pier on Friday, but when he returned on Monday the eastern section was missing.

He said: “It was with great sadness that I discovered that the grand old lady herself had become yet another victim of the recent arctic conditions.

"Only two days before, I photographed the seafront and the West Pier at the height of the snowstorm and marvelled at how the remains of the iconic Victorian structure, having survived the Second World War, years of dereliction and two arson attacks, continued to defy the elements."

“On Monday morning however, my heart sank to see that the entire east side of the former pavilion had disappeared into the sea, changing the appearance of both the West Pier and the seafront for ever.

"As the years pass and as more of this structure inevitably succumbs to the elements we should all enjoy it while we can.”

The pier, designed and engineered by Eugenius Birch in 1863, was severely damaged by two arson attacks in 2003, then in 2010 the collapsed concert hall was declared a public hazard and removed.

The most recent damage is the first significant structural change to the skeletal structure – which is still the most photographed building in the city – since 2010.

Rachel Clark, chief executive of the West Pier Trust, said: “We don’t know exactly when it happened, but obviously in the last couple of days.

“Being a Victorian structure, it is extremely well built and since the fires in the last few years the changes to its appearance have been remarkably little.

“However it is a terrible, terrible shame, but it is unavoidable. The West Pier is a much loved landmark, but it is an unmaintained structure at the mercy of the elements.

“We really appreciate people sending us their photographs so we can see the changes.”

Engineer John Scatchard said the section lost to the sea was thought to have previously been a concrete balcony.

He added: “For a long time the columns have been broken.”

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10:59am Wed 23 Jan 13

stir up says...

What a great loss when she finally goes,the times spent on the pier always stay with anyone who walked her deck.
She gave so much to the town.
What a great loss when she finally goes,the times spent on the pier always stay with anyone who walked her deck. She gave so much to the town. stir up
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11:16am Wed 23 Jan 13

PETE OF QUEENS PARK says...

The quicker the lot falls in the sea the better it is an eyesore and does nothing for the sea front and what happened to all the monies the so called West Pier trust has raised over the years because nothing has ever been done to show for it.
The quicker the lot falls in the sea the better it is an eyesore and does nothing for the sea front and what happened to all the monies the so called West Pier trust has raised over the years because nothing has ever been done to show for it. PETE OF QUEENS PARK
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11:22am Wed 23 Jan 13

pwlr1966 says...

Any chance of a photo?
Any chance of a photo? pwlr1966
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11:25am Wed 23 Jan 13

stepheye says...

Shame. We can put a man on the moon, but... It's one of the best things about Brighton, it has and still does give pleasure to many....
Shame. We can put a man on the moon, but... It's one of the best things about Brighton, it has and still does give pleasure to many.... stepheye
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11:31am Wed 23 Jan 13

Hovite says...

They should have done a deal Chris Eubanks in the 90's but the council, it's officers and West Pier Trust thought doing nothing was better than doing something.

There is a tendancy for the authority to dismiss a project because they don't like it, yet are unable to come up with an alternative one.

Cutting off your nose to spite your face springs to mind, and we have certainly cut off our nose in this case.
They should have done a deal Chris Eubanks in the 90's but the council, it's officers and West Pier Trust thought doing nothing was better than doing something. There is a tendancy for the authority to dismiss a project because they don't like it, yet are unable to come up with an alternative one. Cutting off your nose to spite your face springs to mind, and we have certainly cut off our nose in this case. Hovite
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11:40am Wed 23 Jan 13

harrisimo says...

PETE OF QUEENS PARK wrote:
The quicker the lot falls in the sea the better it is an eyesore and does nothing for the sea front and what happened to all the monies the so called West Pier trust has raised over the years because nothing has ever been done to show for it.
Disagree that it's an eyesore. Personally I think it looks quite majestic.
[quote][p][bold]PETE OF QUEENS PARK[/bold] wrote: The quicker the lot falls in the sea the better it is an eyesore and does nothing for the sea front and what happened to all the monies the so called West Pier trust has raised over the years because nothing has ever been done to show for it.[/p][/quote]Disagree that it's an eyesore. Personally I think it looks quite majestic. harrisimo
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11:49am Wed 23 Jan 13

Man of steel says...

PETE OF QUEENS PARK wrote:
The quicker the lot falls in the sea the better it is an eyesore and does nothing for the sea front and what happened to all the monies the so called West Pier trust has raised over the years because nothing has ever been done to show for it.
There was enough money in the 70s to rebuild the pier, around £7 million, but it was slowly erroded, like the pier itself now, by solicitors, achitects and meetings.
I believe that all involved in the trust should be made to pay back all of the monies that they have earned over the years, but sadly that is a pipe dream. Shame really, as it was the best pier out of the two.
[quote][p][bold]PETE OF QUEENS PARK[/bold] wrote: The quicker the lot falls in the sea the better it is an eyesore and does nothing for the sea front and what happened to all the monies the so called West Pier trust has raised over the years because nothing has ever been done to show for it.[/p][/quote]There was enough money in the 70s to rebuild the pier, around £7 million, but it was slowly erroded, like the pier itself now, by solicitors, achitects and meetings. I believe that all involved in the trust should be made to pay back all of the monies that they have earned over the years, but sadly that is a pipe dream. Shame really, as it was the best pier out of the two. Man of steel
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12:03pm Wed 23 Jan 13

BornInBrighton1968 says...

I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's).

It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.
I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's). It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair. BornInBrighton1968
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12:07pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Dr Pork says...

Hovite wrote:
They should have done a deal Chris Eubanks in the 90's but the council, it's officers and West Pier Trust thought doing nothing was better than doing something.

There is a tendancy for the authority to dismiss a project because they don't like it, yet are unable to come up with an alternative one.

Cutting off your nose to spite your face springs to mind, and we have certainly cut off our nose in this case.
He'd probably have only turned it into a youth hostel
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: They should have done a deal Chris Eubanks in the 90's but the council, it's officers and West Pier Trust thought doing nothing was better than doing something. There is a tendancy for the authority to dismiss a project because they don't like it, yet are unable to come up with an alternative one. Cutting off your nose to spite your face springs to mind, and we have certainly cut off our nose in this case.[/p][/quote]He'd probably have only turned it into a youth hostel Dr Pork
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12:12pm Wed 23 Jan 13

olebut says...

I remember, when I lived in Hove in the 60's that it was in need of a great deal of money being spent on it to repair it even then.

It is a shame that it is now almost gone, but having seen the Palace Pier on a recent trip to Brighton( sorry it will always be The Palace Pier to me) . That looked as if it had been vandalised as well, with most of its iconic buildings replaced with modern trash. But then I guess Brighton does not care about its heritage only profit now.
I remember, when I lived in Hove in the 60's that it was in need of a great deal of money being spent on it to repair it even then. It is a shame that it is now almost gone, but having seen the Palace Pier on a recent trip to Brighton( sorry it will always be The Palace Pier to me) . That looked as if it had been vandalised as well, with most of its iconic buildings replaced with modern trash. But then I guess Brighton does not care about its heritage only profit now. olebut
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12:18pm Wed 23 Jan 13

captbaz says...

The West Pier Trust.???? they don't seem to be doing anything to protect or restore this historic feature. what have they been doing with all the monies raised for this iconic structure
The West Pier Trust.???? they don't seem to be doing anything to protect or restore this historic feature. what have they been doing with all the monies raised for this iconic structure captbaz
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12:19pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Hovite says...

If won't pay up, at least admit responsibility. They are an insult to Victorian engineering and the generations who built this city.

The trouble with Brighton & Hove is that no one is ever held accountable. They can fail with the West Pier, Brighton Marina Development, Black Rock ice rink and the King Alfred Gehry. What’s happened to the Preston Barracks, Sackville Trading Estate, Old Bingo Hall Portland Road and Hove Station development. Millions and millions being continuously spent in legal and architect fees, time being spent in meetings and writing reports about when the next meeting will be. Apart from the Amex nothing has happened in this city for 40 years.

Councils come and go but the officers who make the rules, advise and instruct the bureaucracy are, and have always been incompetent.
If won't pay up, at least admit responsibility. They are an insult to Victorian engineering and the generations who built this city. The trouble with Brighton & Hove is that no one is ever held accountable. They can fail with the West Pier, Brighton Marina Development, Black Rock ice rink and the King Alfred Gehry. What’s happened to the Preston Barracks, Sackville Trading Estate, Old Bingo Hall Portland Road and Hove Station development. Millions and millions being continuously spent in legal and architect fees, time being spent in meetings and writing reports about when the next meeting will be. Apart from the Amex nothing has happened in this city for 40 years. Councils come and go but the officers who make the rules, advise and instruct the bureaucracy are, and have always been incompetent. Hovite
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12:20pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Meant for Man of steel
Meant for Man of steel Hovite
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12:23pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Dr Pork wrote:
Hovite wrote:
They should have done a deal Chris Eubanks in the 90's but the council, it's officers and West Pier Trust thought doing nothing was better than doing something.

There is a tendancy for the authority to dismiss a project because they don't like it, yet are unable to come up with an alternative one.

Cutting off your nose to spite your face springs to mind, and we have certainly cut off our nose in this case.
He'd probably have only turned it into a youth hostel
At least it would be a great youth hostel.

Like I said, something is better than nothing.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Pork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: They should have done a deal Chris Eubanks in the 90's but the council, it's officers and West Pier Trust thought doing nothing was better than doing something. There is a tendancy for the authority to dismiss a project because they don't like it, yet are unable to come up with an alternative one. Cutting off your nose to spite your face springs to mind, and we have certainly cut off our nose in this case.[/p][/quote]He'd probably have only turned it into a youth hostel[/p][/quote]At least it would be a great youth hostel. Like I said, something is better than nothing. Hovite
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12:46pm Wed 23 Jan 13

BornInBrighton1968 says...

captbaz wrote:
The West Pier Trust.???? they don't seem to be doing anything to protect or restore this historic feature. what have they been doing with all the monies raised for this iconic structure
I phoned them up last year as I wanted to order a book that they were selling about the history of the West Pier.

During the converstation that I had with a member of the Trusts staff,I got the feeling that they were in no way interested in restoring the pier, and that their priorities were in the promotion of the ghastly i360
[quote][p][bold]captbaz[/bold] wrote: The West Pier Trust.???? they don't seem to be doing anything to protect or restore this historic feature. what have they been doing with all the monies raised for this iconic structure[/p][/quote]I phoned them up last year as I wanted to order a book that they were selling about the history of the West Pier. During the converstation that I had with a member of the Trusts staff,I got the feeling that they were in no way interested in restoring the pier, and that their priorities were in the promotion of the ghastly i360 BornInBrighton1968
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12:51pm Wed 23 Jan 13

stir up says...

The Palace Pier was always the kiss me quick type of pier at least the West Pier had some style. It will never be rebuilt unless I win the erro lottery and then anyone knocking it will be barred from admission. The West Pier trust seems to be doing something by trying to return the two buildings just on the land, give them a chance, The main problem is that the Greens party seems to have more time for travellers and cycle lanes than doing anything to help. But of course real heritage was never their thing.
The Palace Pier was always the kiss me quick type of pier at least the West Pier had some style. It will never be rebuilt unless I win the erro lottery and then anyone knocking it will be barred from admission. The West Pier trust seems to be doing something by trying to return the two buildings just on the land, give them a chance, The main problem is that the Greens party seems to have more time for travellers and cycle lanes than doing anything to help. But of course real heritage was never their thing. stir up
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1:04pm Wed 23 Jan 13

davidbrianjones says...

why not remove the other Balcony (which still looks beautiful) and preserve it for the future? can't be too difficult?
why not remove the other Balcony (which still looks beautiful) and preserve it for the future? can't be too difficult? davidbrianjones
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1:19pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Fairfax Sakes says...

As it stands its a rusting, decaying blotch on the landscape, it should have been fully removed many years ago regardless of past or future significance.
As it stands its a rusting, decaying blotch on the landscape, it should have been fully removed many years ago regardless of past or future significance. Fairfax Sakes
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1:50pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Reporter1 says...

It would be good to see where any money raised by The West Pier Trust has been spent over the last 40 years.

The structure is (even what is left) still has something about it.
It would be good to see where any money raised by The West Pier Trust has been spent over the last 40 years. The structure is (even what is left) still has something about it. Reporter1
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2:03pm Wed 23 Jan 13

BornInBrighton1968 says...

Fairfax Sakes wrote:
As it stands its a rusting, decaying blotch on the landscape, it should have been fully removed many years ago regardless of past or future significance.
Sounds like you're talking about the Green council!
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Sakes[/bold] wrote: As it stands its a rusting, decaying blotch on the landscape, it should have been fully removed many years ago regardless of past or future significance.[/p][/quote]Sounds like you're talking about the Green council! BornInBrighton1968
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3:18pm Wed 23 Jan 13

alyn, southwick says...

PETE OF QUEENS PARK wrote:
The quicker the lot falls in the sea the better it is an eyesore and does nothing for the sea front and what happened to all the monies the so called West Pier trust has raised over the years because nothing has ever been done to show for it.
Should all ruins be got rid of:
Bramber Castle?
Stone Henge (would make upgrading the nearby road easier)?
The Acropolis?
Rievaulx Abbey?
Fishbourne?
Wroxeter Roman City?
to name just a few.
It's no more an eyesore than any of the ruins I've mentioned.
[quote][p][bold]PETE OF QUEENS PARK[/bold] wrote: The quicker the lot falls in the sea the better it is an eyesore and does nothing for the sea front and what happened to all the monies the so called West Pier trust has raised over the years because nothing has ever been done to show for it.[/p][/quote]Should all ruins be got rid of: Bramber Castle? Stone Henge (would make upgrading the nearby road easier)? The Acropolis? Rievaulx Abbey? Fishbourne? Wroxeter Roman City? to name just a few. It's no more an eyesore than any of the ruins I've mentioned. alyn, southwick
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3:41pm Wed 23 Jan 13

inadaptado says...

stir up wrote:
The Palace Pier was always the kiss me quick type of pier at least the West Pier had some style. It will never be rebuilt unless I win the erro lottery and then anyone knocking it will be barred from admission. The West Pier trust seems to be doing something by trying to return the two buildings just on the land, give them a chance, The main problem is that the Greens party seems to have more time for travellers and cycle lanes than doing anything to help. But of course real heritage was never their thing.
The 'main' problem is the Greens? Did they force the trust, the previous councils, and everybody else that was supposed to do something to sit on their hands all these years? Hey, why don't we blame them of the fires too?
[quote][p][bold]stir up[/bold] wrote: The Palace Pier was always the kiss me quick type of pier at least the West Pier had some style. It will never be rebuilt unless I win the erro lottery and then anyone knocking it will be barred from admission. The West Pier trust seems to be doing something by trying to return the two buildings just on the land, give them a chance, The main problem is that the Greens party seems to have more time for travellers and cycle lanes than doing anything to help. But of course real heritage was never their thing.[/p][/quote]The 'main' problem is the Greens? Did they force the trust, the previous councils, and everybody else that was supposed to do something to sit on their hands all these years? Hey, why don't we blame them of the fires too? inadaptado
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3:49pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Crystal Ball says...

stepheye wrote:
Shame. We can put a man on the moon, but... It's one of the best things about Brighton, it has and still does give pleasure to many....
"We can put a man on the Moon...". Or did we?
[quote][p][bold]stepheye[/bold] wrote: Shame. We can put a man on the moon, but... It's one of the best things about Brighton, it has and still does give pleasure to many....[/p][/quote]"We can put a man on the Moon...". Or did we? Crystal Ball
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3:52pm Wed 23 Jan 13

BornInBrighton1968 says...

inadaptado wrote:
stir up wrote:
The Palace Pier was always the kiss me quick type of pier at least the West Pier had some style. It will never be rebuilt unless I win the erro lottery and then anyone knocking it will be barred from admission. The West Pier trust seems to be doing something by trying to return the two buildings just on the land, give them a chance, The main problem is that the Greens party seems to have more time for travellers and cycle lanes than doing anything to help. But of course real heritage was never their thing.
The 'main' problem is the Greens? Did they force the trust, the previous councils, and everybody else that was supposed to do something to sit on their hands all these years? Hey, why don't we blame them of the fires too?
My feelings are, as usual, everything that has gone wrong in Brighton is down to Caroline '5 Homes' Lucas and her bunch of Green politically-correct clowns.

Yes Caroline, lets not worry ourselves about homelessness and poverty; lets instead write to Halfords and complain that they are selling blue bicycles for boys, and pink bicycles for girls (it's SO non-PC!)
[quote][p][bold]inadaptado[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stir up[/bold] wrote: The Palace Pier was always the kiss me quick type of pier at least the West Pier had some style. It will never be rebuilt unless I win the erro lottery and then anyone knocking it will be barred from admission. The West Pier trust seems to be doing something by trying to return the two buildings just on the land, give them a chance, The main problem is that the Greens party seems to have more time for travellers and cycle lanes than doing anything to help. But of course real heritage was never their thing.[/p][/quote]The 'main' problem is the Greens? Did they force the trust, the previous councils, and everybody else that was supposed to do something to sit on their hands all these years? Hey, why don't we blame them of the fires too?[/p][/quote]My feelings are, as usual, everything that has gone wrong in Brighton is down to Caroline '5 Homes' Lucas and her bunch of Green politically-correct clowns. Yes Caroline, lets not worry ourselves about homelessness and poverty; lets instead write to Halfords and complain that they are selling blue bicycles for boys, and pink bicycles for girls (it's SO non-PC!) BornInBrighton1968
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4:22pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Lady Smith says...

There is not, nor has there been for some years, a West Pier. Get over it. Move on.
There is not, nor has there been for some years, a West Pier. Get over it. Move on. Lady Smith
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4:39pm Wed 23 Jan 13

PETE OF QUEENS PARK says...

alyn, southwick wrote:
PETE OF QUEENS PARK wrote:
The quicker the lot falls in the sea the better it is an eyesore and does nothing for the sea front and what happened to all the monies the so called West Pier trust has raised over the years because nothing has ever been done to show for it.
Should all ruins be got rid of:
Bramber Castle?
Stone Henge (would make upgrading the nearby road easier)?
The Acropolis?
Rievaulx Abbey?
Fishbourne?
Wroxeter Roman City?
to name just a few.
It's no more an eyesore than any of the ruins I've mentioned.
At least the sights you name can be visited and have a walk around and
marvel at how they got there and were built, but you can't walk on water and look and marvel at a pile of old rotting iron and also while on the subject what has happened to all the monies raised by the trust
[quote][p][bold]alyn, southwick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PETE OF QUEENS PARK[/bold] wrote: The quicker the lot falls in the sea the better it is an eyesore and does nothing for the sea front and what happened to all the monies the so called West Pier trust has raised over the years because nothing has ever been done to show for it.[/p][/quote]Should all ruins be got rid of: Bramber Castle? Stone Henge (would make upgrading the nearby road easier)? The Acropolis? Rievaulx Abbey? Fishbourne? Wroxeter Roman City? to name just a few. It's no more an eyesore than any of the ruins I've mentioned.[/p][/quote]At least the sights you name can be visited and have a walk around and marvel at how they got there and were built, but you can't walk on water and look and marvel at a pile of old rotting iron and also while on the subject what has happened to all the monies raised by the trust PETE OF QUEENS PARK
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5:32pm Wed 23 Jan 13

PorkBoat says...

The West Pier trust is a scam, and if the Argus was a proper newspaper, they would have investigated them years ago, as well as the blatant fraud that is the i-360.
The West Pier trust is a scam, and if the Argus was a proper newspaper, they would have investigated them years ago, as well as the blatant fraud that is the i-360. PorkBoat
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6:28pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Mr Sworld says...

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's).

It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.
A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'?

Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up?

:-D
[quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's). It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.[/p][/quote]A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'? Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up? :-D Mr Sworld
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6:42pm Wed 23 Jan 13

bogs says...

I will pay for the party when the whole lot falls down!
I will pay for the party when the whole lot falls down! bogs
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6:55pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Dr Pork says...

Mr Sworld wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's).

It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.
A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'?

Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up?

:-D
I can categorically assure you that I have no connection to the craftily monikered BornInBrighton1968 (I was born in 1969) or PorkBoat for that matter. There are definitely a few multiple account holders that regularly post here though.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Sworld[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's). It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.[/p][/quote]A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'? Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up? :-D[/p][/quote]I can categorically assure you that I have no connection to the craftily monikered BornInBrighton1968 (I was born in 1969) or PorkBoat for that matter. There are definitely a few multiple account holders that regularly post here though. Dr Pork
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7:49pm Wed 23 Jan 13

PorkBoat says...

Dr Pork wrote:
Mr Sworld wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's).

It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.
A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'?

Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up?

:-D
I can categorically assure you that I have no connection to the craftily monikered BornInBrighton1968 (I was born in 1969) or PorkBoat for that matter. There are definitely a few multiple account holders that regularly post here though.
Me neither, I lived 200 miles away in the early 70's, first time I saw the West Pier was in 1977 after it had been closed down.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Pork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Sworld[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's). It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.[/p][/quote]A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'? Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up? :-D[/p][/quote]I can categorically assure you that I have no connection to the craftily monikered BornInBrighton1968 (I was born in 1969) or PorkBoat for that matter. There are definitely a few multiple account holders that regularly post here though.[/p][/quote]Me neither, I lived 200 miles away in the early 70's, first time I saw the West Pier was in 1977 after it had been closed down. PorkBoat
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8:05pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Dr Pork says...

PorkBoat wrote:
Dr Pork wrote:
Mr Sworld wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's).

It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.
A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'?

Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up?

:-D
I can categorically assure you that I have no connection to the craftily monikered BornInBrighton1968 (I was born in 1969) or PorkBoat for that matter. There are definitely a few multiple account holders that regularly post here though.
Me neither, I lived 200 miles away in the early 70's, first time I saw the West Pier was in 1977 after it had been closed down.
I'm glad we've got that cleared up!
[quote][p][bold]PorkBoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Pork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Sworld[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's). It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.[/p][/quote]A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'? Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up? :-D[/p][/quote]I can categorically assure you that I have no connection to the craftily monikered BornInBrighton1968 (I was born in 1969) or PorkBoat for that matter. There are definitely a few multiple account holders that regularly post here though.[/p][/quote]Me neither, I lived 200 miles away in the early 70's, first time I saw the West Pier was in 1977 after it had been closed down.[/p][/quote]I'm glad we've got that cleared up! Dr Pork
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8:22pm Wed 23 Jan 13

BN1 JB says...

I read somewhere that the trust secretary is paid 40k a year. Most of the money is raised through the sale of West Pier artefacts and charitable donations, most of which come through tax relief from trustees companies. Nice scam! Beautiful Pier in its day.
I read somewhere that the trust secretary is paid 40k a year. Most of the money is raised through the sale of West Pier artefacts and charitable donations, most of which come through tax relief from trustees companies. Nice scam! Beautiful Pier in its day. BN1 JB
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9:26pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

alyn, southwick wrote:
PETE OF QUEENS PARK wrote:
The quicker the lot falls in the sea the better it is an eyesore and does nothing for the sea front and what happened to all the monies the so called West Pier trust has raised over the years because nothing has ever been done to show for it.
Should all ruins be got rid of:
Bramber Castle?
Stone Henge (would make upgrading the nearby road easier)?
The Acropolis?
Rievaulx Abbey?
Fishbourne?
Wroxeter Roman City?
to name just a few.
It's no more an eyesore than any of the ruins I've mentioned.
You just have a chip on your shoulder
[quote][p][bold]alyn, southwick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PETE OF QUEENS PARK[/bold] wrote: The quicker the lot falls in the sea the better it is an eyesore and does nothing for the sea front and what happened to all the monies the so called West Pier trust has raised over the years because nothing has ever been done to show for it.[/p][/quote]Should all ruins be got rid of: Bramber Castle? Stone Henge (would make upgrading the nearby road easier)? The Acropolis? Rievaulx Abbey? Fishbourne? Wroxeter Roman City? to name just a few. It's no more an eyesore than any of the ruins I've mentioned.[/p][/quote]You just have a chip on your shoulder Somethingsarejustwrong
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9:31pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

olebut wrote:
I remember, when I lived in Hove in the 60's that it was in need of a great deal of money being spent on it to repair it even then.

It is a shame that it is now almost gone, but having seen the Palace Pier on a recent trip to Brighton( sorry it will always be The Palace Pier to me) . That looked as if it had been vandalised as well, with most of its iconic buildings replaced with modern trash. But then I guess Brighton does not care about its heritage only profit now.
Your views are about as interesting and exciting as a trip to the dentist. I presume you are still recovering from contributing a few £'s for your parking, you tight boring so and so!
[quote][p][bold]olebut[/bold] wrote: I remember, when I lived in Hove in the 60's that it was in need of a great deal of money being spent on it to repair it even then. It is a shame that it is now almost gone, but having seen the Palace Pier on a recent trip to Brighton( sorry it will always be The Palace Pier to me) . That looked as if it had been vandalised as well, with most of its iconic buildings replaced with modern trash. But then I guess Brighton does not care about its heritage only profit now.[/p][/quote]Your views are about as interesting and exciting as a trip to the dentist. I presume you are still recovering from contributing a few £'s for your parking, you tight boring so and so! Somethingsarejustwrong
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10:13pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Proposedtooverlookingthewestpierin96 says...

My husband proposed to me overlooking West Pier which features in our wedding shots too.We used to belong to West Pier Trust but soon became disillusioned. We used to tell our children they would soon be walking on a restored and magnificent piece of architecture- they are now 11 and 13. Perhaps our grandkids will enjoy it or its replacement!
My husband proposed to me overlooking West Pier which features in our wedding shots too.We used to belong to West Pier Trust but soon became disillusioned. We used to tell our children they would soon be walking on a restored and magnificent piece of architecture- they are now 11 and 13. Perhaps our grandkids will enjoy it or its replacement! Proposedtooverlookingthewestpierin96
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11:03pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Brighton Visitor says...

I personally think it is disgraceful the way the pier has been left to look the way it does.

I am sure the pier was grand once upon a time.

Brighton sure has gone downhill over the past few years.
I personally think it is disgraceful the way the pier has been left to look the way it does. I am sure the pier was grand once upon a time. Brighton sure has gone downhill over the past few years. Brighton Visitor
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2:10am Thu 24 Jan 13

mickage says...

Where are the entrepreneurs today that were capable of having the 2 piers built in the first place....? At the time they were built they were cutting edge entertainment destinations.......n
ow the West Pier is a rotting, crumbling , embarrassing anachronism......mak
es the whole concept of " English holiday resort" seem a joke.....all you sentimentalists out there should cough up the necessary wonga if you think it is worth saving....as the Americans say.." Money talks, **** walks "
Where are the entrepreneurs today that were capable of having the 2 piers built in the first place....? At the time they were built they were cutting edge entertainment destinations.......n ow the West Pier is a rotting, crumbling , embarrassing anachronism......mak es the whole concept of " English holiday resort" seem a joke.....all you sentimentalists out there should cough up the necessary wonga if you think it is worth saving....as the Americans say.." Money talks, **** walks " mickage
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2:12am Thu 24 Jan 13

mickage says...

Where are the entrepreneurs today that were capable of having the 2 piers built in the first place....? At the time they were built they were cutting edge entertainment destinations.......
now the West Pier is a rotting, crumbling , embarrassing anachronism......mak
es the whole concept of " English holiday resort" seem a joke.....all you sentimentalists out there should cough up the necessary wonga if you think it is worth saving....as the Americans say.." Money talks, bulls..t walks
Where are the entrepreneurs today that were capable of having the 2 piers built in the first place....? At the time they were built they were cutting edge entertainment destinations....... now the West Pier is a rotting, crumbling , embarrassing anachronism......mak es the whole concept of " English holiday resort" seem a joke.....all you sentimentalists out there should cough up the necessary wonga if you think it is worth saving....as the Americans say.." Money talks, bulls..t walks mickage
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5:53am Thu 24 Jan 13

timm says...

WILL YOU STOP RUDDY WELL SAYING "ICONIC"?
WILL YOU STOP RUDDY WELL SAYING "ICONIC"? timm
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6:44am Thu 24 Jan 13

BornInBrighton1968 says...

Mr Sworld wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's).

It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.
A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'?

Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up?

:-D
1) I only post under the username 'BorninBrighton1968'


2) I described myself as 'a very young Pork' because Pork is my middle-name; not uncommon in people of Welsh decent.

Hope this clears things up for you...
[quote][p][bold]Mr Sworld[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's). It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.[/p][/quote]A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'? Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up? :-D[/p][/quote]1) I only post under the username 'BorninBrighton1968' 2) I described myself as 'a very young Pork' because Pork is my middle-name; not uncommon in people of Welsh decent. Hope this clears things up for you... BornInBrighton1968
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6:48am Thu 24 Jan 13

BornInBrighton1968 says...

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
Mr Sworld wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's).

It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.
A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'?

Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up?

:-D
1) I only post under the username 'BorninBrighton1968'



2) I described myself as 'a very young Pork' because Pork is my middle-name; not uncommon in people of Welsh decent.

Hope this clears things up for you...
Sorry, that should have been 'of Welsh decendance'
[quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Sworld[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's). It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.[/p][/quote]A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'? Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up? :-D[/p][/quote]1) I only post under the username 'BorninBrighton1968' 2) I described myself as 'a very young Pork' because Pork is my middle-name; not uncommon in people of Welsh decent. Hope this clears things up for you...[/p][/quote]Sorry, that should have been 'of Welsh decendance' BornInBrighton1968
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9:24am Thu 24 Jan 13

Morpheus says...

This article is written as though the west pier was still in its full glory and a section of it has collapsed. How can we "make the most" of a wreck with keep off signs everywhere? The sooner this eyesore goes completely the better.
This article is written as though the west pier was still in its full glory and a section of it has collapsed. How can we "make the most" of a wreck with keep off signs everywhere? The sooner this eyesore goes completely the better. Morpheus
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10:06am Thu 24 Jan 13

Al Bion says...

What exactly are "midding" girders, as referred to in the caption underneath the black and white photo. Are they, perhaps, weaker than ordinary girders, leading to premature collapse?
What exactly are "midding" girders, as referred to in the caption underneath the black and white photo. Are they, perhaps, weaker than ordinary girders, leading to premature collapse? Al Bion
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10:49am Thu 24 Jan 13

Nosfaratu says...

Al Bion wrote:
What exactly are "midding" girders, as referred to in the caption underneath the black and white photo. Are they, perhaps, weaker than ordinary girders, leading to premature collapse?
Me suspects that the immanent collapse of the pier is why the Starlings left.

Perhaps we could get the Army or the Taliban to blow it up, the council could make money selling tickets.
[quote][p][bold]Al Bion[/bold] wrote: What exactly are "midding" girders, as referred to in the caption underneath the black and white photo. Are they, perhaps, weaker than ordinary girders, leading to premature collapse?[/p][/quote]Me suspects that the immanent collapse of the pier is why the Starlings left. Perhaps we could get the Army or the Taliban to blow it up, the council could make money selling tickets. Nosfaratu
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11:11am Thu 24 Jan 13

Fairfax Sakes says...

BN1 JB wrote:
I read somewhere that the trust secretary is paid 40k a year. Most of the money is raised through the sale of West Pier artefacts and charitable donations, most of which come through tax relief from trustees companies. Nice scam! Beautiful Pier in its day.
"I read somewhere" just about sums up what is wrong with internet posters, who by and large are uneducated, delinquant, benefit scrounging curtain twitchers, probably sitting in their fetid darkened squalor typing away on a stolen laptop, spewing forth any and all manner of crass gibberish their enfeebled drug rotted minds can muster. All of you! Apart from me of course.
[quote][p][bold]BN1 JB[/bold] wrote: I read somewhere that the trust secretary is paid 40k a year. Most of the money is raised through the sale of West Pier artefacts and charitable donations, most of which come through tax relief from trustees companies. Nice scam! Beautiful Pier in its day.[/p][/quote]"I read somewhere" just about sums up what is wrong with internet posters, who by and large are uneducated, delinquant, benefit scrounging curtain twitchers, probably sitting in their fetid darkened squalor typing away on a stolen laptop, spewing forth any and all manner of crass gibberish their enfeebled drug rotted minds can muster. All of you! Apart from me of course. Fairfax Sakes
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12:20pm Thu 24 Jan 13

pebble counter says...

stepheye wrote:
Shame. We can put a man on the moon, but... It's one of the best things about Brighton, it has and still does give pleasure to many....
Put a man on the moon?

Who told you that! Fairy story.
[quote][p][bold]stepheye[/bold] wrote: Shame. We can put a man on the moon, but... It's one of the best things about Brighton, it has and still does give pleasure to many....[/p][/quote]Put a man on the moon? Who told you that! Fairy story. pebble counter
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2:50pm Thu 24 Jan 13

BrunswickSquare says...

Morpheus wrote:
This article is written as though the west pier was still in its full glory and a section of it has collapsed. How can we "make the most" of a wreck with keep off signs everywhere? The sooner this eyesore goes completely the better.
It's a daily sight for me, and it most certainly isn't an eyesore.

It's more beautiful, even now, than much of what's in the Tate Modern. It's skeletal form and symmetry are fine.

If you want an eyesore look at the other pier.
[quote][p][bold]Morpheus[/bold] wrote: This article is written as though the west pier was still in its full glory and a section of it has collapsed. How can we "make the most" of a wreck with keep off signs everywhere? The sooner this eyesore goes completely the better.[/p][/quote]It's a daily sight for me, and it most certainly isn't an eyesore. It's more beautiful, even now, than much of what's in the Tate Modern. It's skeletal form and symmetry are fine. If you want an eyesore look at the other pier. BrunswickSquare
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4:47pm Thu 24 Jan 13

PorkBoat says...

Fairfax Sakes wrote:
BN1 JB wrote:
I read somewhere that the trust secretary is paid 40k a year. Most of the money is raised through the sale of West Pier artefacts and charitable donations, most of which come through tax relief from trustees companies. Nice scam! Beautiful Pier in its day.
"I read somewhere" just about sums up what is wrong with internet posters, who by and large are uneducated, delinquant, benefit scrounging curtain twitchers, probably sitting in their fetid darkened squalor typing away on a stolen laptop, spewing forth any and all manner of crass gibberish their enfeebled drug rotted minds can muster. All of you! Apart from me of course.
And me! Commentally ill:- Deluding yourself into thinking that posting your opinion in the comments section of a local newspaper is a worthwhile and constructive pastime, compared to, say, spending eternity locked in a darkened cupboard furiously masturbating to mental images of Ena Sharples and Nora Batty.
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BN1 JB[/bold] wrote: I read somewhere that the trust secretary is paid 40k a year. Most of the money is raised through the sale of West Pier artefacts and charitable donations, most of which come through tax relief from trustees companies. Nice scam! Beautiful Pier in its day.[/p][/quote]"I read somewhere" just about sums up what is wrong with internet posters, who by and large are uneducated, delinquant, benefit scrounging curtain twitchers, probably sitting in their fetid darkened squalor typing away on a stolen laptop, spewing forth any and all manner of crass gibberish their enfeebled drug rotted minds can muster. All of you! Apart from me of course.[/p][/quote]And me! Commentally ill:- Deluding yourself into thinking that posting your opinion in the comments section of a local newspaper is a worthwhile and constructive pastime, compared to, say, spending eternity locked in a darkened cupboard furiously masturbating to mental images of Ena Sharples and Nora Batty. PorkBoat
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4:53pm Thu 24 Jan 13

John Steed says...

the west peir trust fiddled whilst the structure burned, they should be congratulated for the enthusiasm and effort they have shown in doing nothing to save the once magnificent structure, Oh sorry i forgot they have managed to remove some seafront features so a steel tower can be built and provide some rental income, meanwhile these useless duffers couldnt even keep the restored land end section in situ, have spent out on a few girders and decking they took it down again, useless bunch the lot of them, the rest of the pier will begone before the tower is erected,
the west peir trust fiddled whilst the structure burned, they should be congratulated for the enthusiasm and effort they have shown in doing nothing to save the once magnificent structure, Oh sorry i forgot they have managed to remove some seafront features so a steel tower can be built and provide some rental income, meanwhile these useless duffers couldnt even keep the restored land end section in situ, have spent out on a few girders and decking they took it down again, useless bunch the lot of them, the rest of the pier will begone before the tower is erected, John Steed
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5:13pm Thu 24 Jan 13

goldstone says...

How come they never caught and prosecuted those bastards that set fire to it?
We all know who it was. How come the police have been unable to nail it on them?
How come they never caught and prosecuted those bastards that set fire to it? We all know who it was. How come the police have been unable to nail it on them? goldstone
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8:30pm Thu 24 Jan 13

jesss2012 says...

Awww what about all those poor starlings?? They will have to find a new winter roost :(
Awww what about all those poor starlings?? They will have to find a new winter roost :( jesss2012
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9:02pm Thu 24 Jan 13

BornInBrighton1968 says...

goldstone wrote:
How come they never caught and prosecuted those bastards that set fire to it?
We all know who it was. How come the police have been unable to nail it on them?
Agree with you 100% on that.,,
[quote][p][bold]goldstone[/bold] wrote: How come they never caught and prosecuted those bastards that set fire to it? We all know who it was. How come the police have been unable to nail it on them?[/p][/quote]Agree with you 100% on that.,, BornInBrighton1968
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9:38pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Hovite says...

BrunswickSquare wrote:
Morpheus wrote:
This article is written as though the west pier was still in its full glory and a section of it has collapsed. How can we "make the most" of a wreck with keep off signs everywhere? The sooner this eyesore goes completely the better.
It's a daily sight for me, and it most certainly isn't an eyesore.

It's more beautiful, even now, than much of what's in the Tate Modern. It's skeletal form and symmetry are fine.

If you want an eyesore look at the other pier.
Yep it's a great landmark, our Angel of the North, our very own Titanic.
[quote][p][bold]BrunswickSquare[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Morpheus[/bold] wrote: This article is written as though the west pier was still in its full glory and a section of it has collapsed. How can we "make the most" of a wreck with keep off signs everywhere? The sooner this eyesore goes completely the better.[/p][/quote]It's a daily sight for me, and it most certainly isn't an eyesore. It's more beautiful, even now, than much of what's in the Tate Modern. It's skeletal form and symmetry are fine. If you want an eyesore look at the other pier.[/p][/quote]Yep it's a great landmark, our Angel of the North, our very own Titanic. Hovite
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10:32am Fri 25 Jan 13

Fairfax Sakes says...

PorkBoat wrote:
Fairfax Sakes wrote:
BN1 JB wrote:
I read somewhere that the trust secretary is paid 40k a year. Most of the money is raised through the sale of West Pier artefacts and charitable donations, most of which come through tax relief from trustees companies. Nice scam! Beautiful Pier in its day.
"I read somewhere" just about sums up what is wrong with internet posters, who by and large are uneducated, delinquant, benefit scrounging curtain twitchers, probably sitting in their fetid darkened squalor typing away on a stolen laptop, spewing forth any and all manner of crass gibberish their enfeebled drug rotted minds can muster. All of you! Apart from me of course.
And me! Commentally ill:- Deluding yourself into thinking that posting your opinion in the comments section of a local newspaper is a worthwhile and constructive pastime, compared to, say, spending eternity locked in a darkened cupboard furiously masturbating to mental images of Ena Sharples and Nora Batty.
I'd turn the hoses on them all if I had my way.
[quote][p][bold]PorkBoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fairfax Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BN1 JB[/bold] wrote: I read somewhere that the trust secretary is paid 40k a year. Most of the money is raised through the sale of West Pier artefacts and charitable donations, most of which come through tax relief from trustees companies. Nice scam! Beautiful Pier in its day.[/p][/quote]"I read somewhere" just about sums up what is wrong with internet posters, who by and large are uneducated, delinquant, benefit scrounging curtain twitchers, probably sitting in their fetid darkened squalor typing away on a stolen laptop, spewing forth any and all manner of crass gibberish their enfeebled drug rotted minds can muster. All of you! Apart from me of course.[/p][/quote]And me! Commentally ill:- Deluding yourself into thinking that posting your opinion in the comments section of a local newspaper is a worthwhile and constructive pastime, compared to, say, spending eternity locked in a darkened cupboard furiously masturbating to mental images of Ena Sharples and Nora Batty.[/p][/quote]I'd turn the hoses on them all if I had my way. Fairfax Sakes
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11:36am Fri 25 Jan 13

notaconspiracy says...

This was only just about a pier when I first came here 30 years ago. Not sure we have been able to call it that for years. In all that time the West Pier trust have done nothing apparent apart from collecting donations.

And I have to agree about the dregs of society who post comments on these type of websites. Despicable people!
This was only just about a pier when I first came here 30 years ago. Not sure we have been able to call it that for years. In all that time the West Pier trust have done nothing apparent apart from collecting donations. And I have to agree about the dregs of society who post comments on these type of websites. Despicable people! notaconspiracy
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11:53am Fri 25 Jan 13

Tedious Pedant says...

Lady Smith wrote:
There is not, nor has there been for some years, a West Pier. Get over it. Move on.
It isn't a pier any more as it's not attached to the shore.
[quote][p][bold]Lady Smith[/bold] wrote: There is not, nor has there been for some years, a West Pier. Get over it. Move on.[/p][/quote]It isn't a pier any more as it's not attached to the shore. Tedious Pedant
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12:13pm Fri 25 Jan 13

PorkBoat says...

Fairfax Sakes wrote:
PorkBoat wrote:
Fairfax Sakes wrote:
BN1 JB wrote:
I read somewhere that the trust secretary is paid 40k a year. Most of the money is raised through the sale of West Pier artefacts and charitable donations, most of which come through tax relief from trustees companies. Nice scam! Beautiful Pier in its day.
"I read somewhere" just about sums up what is wrong with internet posters, who by and large are uneducated, delinquant, benefit scrounging curtain twitchers, probably sitting in their fetid darkened squalor typing away on a stolen laptop, spewing forth any and all manner of crass gibberish their enfeebled drug rotted minds can muster. All of you! Apart from me of course.
And me! Commentally ill:- Deluding yourself into thinking that posting your opinion in the comments section of a local newspaper is a worthwhile and constructive pastime, compared to, say, spending eternity locked in a darkened cupboard furiously masturbating to mental images of Ena Sharples and Nora Batty.
I'd turn the hoses on them all if I had my way.
This is the kind of spirit we need, I like the cut of your jib, Sir/Madame/Ms/Mx.
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PorkBoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fairfax Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BN1 JB[/bold] wrote: I read somewhere that the trust secretary is paid 40k a year. Most of the money is raised through the sale of West Pier artefacts and charitable donations, most of which come through tax relief from trustees companies. Nice scam! Beautiful Pier in its day.[/p][/quote]"I read somewhere" just about sums up what is wrong with internet posters, who by and large are uneducated, delinquant, benefit scrounging curtain twitchers, probably sitting in their fetid darkened squalor typing away on a stolen laptop, spewing forth any and all manner of crass gibberish their enfeebled drug rotted minds can muster. All of you! Apart from me of course.[/p][/quote]And me! Commentally ill:- Deluding yourself into thinking that posting your opinion in the comments section of a local newspaper is a worthwhile and constructive pastime, compared to, say, spending eternity locked in a darkened cupboard furiously masturbating to mental images of Ena Sharples and Nora Batty.[/p][/quote]I'd turn the hoses on them all if I had my way.[/p][/quote]This is the kind of spirit we need, I like the cut of your jib, Sir/Madame/Ms/Mx. PorkBoat
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4:01pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Young Pork says...

Dr Pork wrote:
PorkBoat wrote:
Dr Pork wrote:
Mr Sworld wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's).

It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.
A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'?

Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up?

:-D
I can categorically assure you that I have no connection to the craftily monikered BornInBrighton1968 (I was born in 1969) or PorkBoat for that matter. There are definitely a few multiple account holders that regularly post here though.
Me neither, I lived 200 miles away in the early 70's, first time I saw the West Pier was in 1977 after it had been closed down.
I'm glad we've got that cleared up!
It wasn't me either!
[quote][p][bold]Dr Pork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PorkBoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Pork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Sworld[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's). It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.[/p][/quote]A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'? Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up? :-D[/p][/quote]I can categorically assure you that I have no connection to the craftily monikered BornInBrighton1968 (I was born in 1969) or PorkBoat for that matter. There are definitely a few multiple account holders that regularly post here though.[/p][/quote]Me neither, I lived 200 miles away in the early 70's, first time I saw the West Pier was in 1977 after it had been closed down.[/p][/quote]I'm glad we've got that cleared up![/p][/quote]It wasn't me either! Young Pork
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10:47am Sat 26 Jan 13

Clive Bonny says...

Interesting to see Council planning to spend £25k-£50k on a feasibility study to check if the Pavilion / Dome can be a World Heritage Site
Perhaps the Pier Trustees can donate the charity money to this instead of taxpayers paying?
Interesting to see Council planning to spend £25k-£50k on a feasibility study to check if the Pavilion / Dome can be a World Heritage Site Perhaps the Pier Trustees can donate the charity money to this instead of taxpayers paying? Clive Bonny
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2:39pm Sat 26 Jan 13

Flippin Burghers says...

The sooner we get fracking the better. Then the rest of this eyesore will collapse into the sea.
The sooner we get fracking the better. Then the rest of this eyesore will collapse into the sea. Flippin Burghers
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7:47pm Sat 26 Jan 13

BornInBrighton1968 says...

Young Pork wrote:
Dr Pork wrote:
PorkBoat wrote:
Dr Pork wrote:
Mr Sworld wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's).

It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.
A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'?

Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up?

:-D
I can categorically assure you that I have no connection to the craftily monikered BornInBrighton1968 (I was born in 1969) or PorkBoat for that matter. There are definitely a few multiple account holders that regularly post here though.
Me neither, I lived 200 miles away in the early 70's, first time I saw the West Pier was in 1977 after it had been closed down.
I'm glad we've got that cleared up!
It wasn't me either!
I described myself as 'a very young Pork' because Pork is my middle-name; not uncommon in people of Welsh decendence, particularly in the areas south-west of Swansea, such as Llanelli and Carmarthen.
[quote][p][bold]Young Pork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Pork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PorkBoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Pork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Sworld[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I remember as a very young Pork being taken on the pier by my mother (early 1970's). It's an absolute scandal that the pier was allowed to fall into such disrepair.[/p][/quote]A 'young Pork'? And immediately below is a post from 'Dr Pork'? Did you get your multiple accounts mixed up? :-D[/p][/quote]I can categorically assure you that I have no connection to the craftily monikered BornInBrighton1968 (I was born in 1969) or PorkBoat for that matter. There are definitely a few multiple account holders that regularly post here though.[/p][/quote]Me neither, I lived 200 miles away in the early 70's, first time I saw the West Pier was in 1977 after it had been closed down.[/p][/quote]I'm glad we've got that cleared up![/p][/quote]It wasn't me either![/p][/quote]I described myself as 'a very young Pork' because Pork is my middle-name; not uncommon in people of Welsh decendence, particularly in the areas south-west of Swansea, such as Llanelli and Carmarthen. BornInBrighton1968
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10:21am Sun 27 Jan 13

Old Ladys Gin says...

If so many people are keen on this wreck then why not have another built, by generous subscriptions from those so keen; otherwise have a short service and get rid of it.
If so many people are keen on this wreck then why not have another built, by generous subscriptions from those so keen; otherwise have a short service and get rid of it. Old Ladys Gin
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8:14pm Mon 28 Jan 13

PorkBoat says...

Old Ladys Gin wrote:
If so many people are keen on this wreck then why not have another built, by generous subscriptions from those so keen; otherwise have a short service and get rid of it.
Better ask the West Pier Trust...
[quote][p][bold]Old Ladys Gin[/bold] wrote: If so many people are keen on this wreck then why not have another built, by generous subscriptions from those so keen; otherwise have a short service and get rid of it.[/p][/quote]Better ask the West Pier Trust... PorkBoat
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11:00pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Hove Actually says...

The West Pier is a much loved landmark

Which is not on the land or much loved.
If it had been it would have survived like the Brighton pier has, I can remember as a young boy walking past this boring place full of fishermen who were always grumpy on the way to spend an hour or two on the other pier
The West Pier is a much loved landmark Which is not on the land or much loved. If it had been it would have survived like the Brighton pier has, I can remember as a young boy walking past this boring place full of fishermen who were always grumpy on the way to spend an hour or two on the other pier Hove Actually
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11:09am Tue 29 Jan 13

ARealBessie says...

Hove Actually wrote:
The West Pier is a much loved landmark

Which is not on the land or much loved.
If it had been it would have survived like the Brighton pier has, I can remember as a young boy walking past this boring place full of fishermen who were always grumpy on the way to spend an hour or two on the other pier
Well, I love it, and think its one of Brighton's most intriguing and soulful landmarks.
From the moment I first laid eyes on as a kid, I've always been more drawn to it than the loud gaudy glitz of Brighton Pier - To me, it always had a quieter, more understated, and less pretentious air of the two.

I also remember the gruff old fishermen... with great fondness for having been so patient, and gentle with (what I was back then) an over excited pip, poking about, dancing around, and asking incessant questions. Funnily enough, I used to walk past the Brighton Pier in order to get to my preferred destination, and back then, those gruff old fishermen only added to the allure of the West Pier.

Tho' the pier now lies in ruins, in my eyes it's now every much a treasured landmark as ever - with the added value of a mysterious and tragic tale to tell.
You see a pile of boring junk, I see a dynamic work of art against an ever-changing backdrop as one season gives way to another.

Vive la différence! eh?
[quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: The West Pier is a much loved landmark Which is not on the land or much loved. If it had been it would have survived like the Brighton pier has, I can remember as a young boy walking past this boring place full of fishermen who were always grumpy on the way to spend an hour or two on the other pier[/p][/quote]Well, I love it, and think its one of Brighton's most intriguing and soulful landmarks. From the moment I first laid eyes on as a kid, I've always been more drawn to it than the loud gaudy glitz of Brighton Pier - To me, it always had a quieter, more understated, and less pretentious air of the two. I also remember the gruff old fishermen... with great fondness for having been so patient, and gentle with (what I was back then) an over excited pip, poking about, dancing around, and asking incessant questions. Funnily enough, I used to walk past the Brighton Pier in order to get to my preferred destination, and back then, those gruff old fishermen only added to the allure of the West Pier. Tho' the pier now lies in ruins, in my eyes it's now every much a treasured landmark as ever - with the added value of a mysterious and tragic tale to tell. You see a pile of boring junk, I see a dynamic work of art against an ever-changing backdrop as one season gives way to another. Vive la différence! eh? ARealBessie
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11:52am Tue 29 Jan 13

thevoiceoftruth says...

It's so sad what has happened to the West Pier but I still think it is a beautiful structure and would not want to see it pulled down. It is an iconic Brighton landmark and features in every tourist's photographs.

I thing we should scrap the i360, not the pier!
It's so sad what has happened to the West Pier but I still think it is a beautiful structure and would not want to see it pulled down. It is an iconic Brighton landmark and features in every tourist's photographs. I thing we should scrap the i360, not the pier! thevoiceoftruth
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7:17pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Hove Actually says...

ARealBessie wrote:
Hove Actually wrote:
The West Pier is a much loved landmark

Which is not on the land or much loved.
If it had been it would have survived like the Brighton pier has, I can remember as a young boy walking past this boring place full of fishermen who were always grumpy on the way to spend an hour or two on the other pier
Well, I love it, and think its one of Brighton's most intriguing and soulful landmarks.
From the moment I first laid eyes on as a kid, I've always been more drawn to it than the loud gaudy glitz of Brighton Pier - To me, it always had a quieter, more understated, and less pretentious air of the two.

I also remember the gruff old fishermen... with great fondness for having been so patient, and gentle with (what I was back then) an over excited pip, poking about, dancing around, and asking incessant questions. Funnily enough, I used to walk past the Brighton Pier in order to get to my preferred destination, and back then, those gruff old fishermen only added to the allure of the West Pier.

Tho' the pier now lies in ruins, in my eyes it's now every much a treasured landmark as ever - with the added value of a mysterious and tragic tale to tell.
You see a pile of boring junk, I see a dynamic work of art against an ever-changing backdrop as one season gives way to another.

Vive la différence! eh?
True, I do see a pile of junk and being older, nay much older I to see the Brighton pier as a loud gaudy glitzy place. However it is a truth that cannot be denied, if people had loved it, it wouldn't have fallen into dis-repair
[quote][p][bold]ARealBessie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: The West Pier is a much loved landmark Which is not on the land or much loved. If it had been it would have survived like the Brighton pier has, I can remember as a young boy walking past this boring place full of fishermen who were always grumpy on the way to spend an hour or two on the other pier[/p][/quote]Well, I love it, and think its one of Brighton's most intriguing and soulful landmarks. From the moment I first laid eyes on as a kid, I've always been more drawn to it than the loud gaudy glitz of Brighton Pier - To me, it always had a quieter, more understated, and less pretentious air of the two. I also remember the gruff old fishermen... with great fondness for having been so patient, and gentle with (what I was back then) an over excited pip, poking about, dancing around, and asking incessant questions. Funnily enough, I used to walk past the Brighton Pier in order to get to my preferred destination, and back then, those gruff old fishermen only added to the allure of the West Pier. Tho' the pier now lies in ruins, in my eyes it's now every much a treasured landmark as ever - with the added value of a mysterious and tragic tale to tell. You see a pile of boring junk, I see a dynamic work of art against an ever-changing backdrop as one season gives way to another. Vive la différence! eh?[/p][/quote]True, I do see a pile of junk and being older, nay much older I to see the Brighton pier as a loud gaudy glitzy place. However it is a truth that cannot be denied, if people had loved it, it wouldn't have fallen into dis-repair Hove Actually
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10:13pm Tue 29 Jan 13

ARealBessie says...

Hove Actually wrote:
ARealBessie wrote:
Hove Actually wrote:
The West Pier is a much loved landmark

Which is not on the land or much loved.
If it had been it would have survived like the Brighton pier has, I can remember as a young boy walking past this boring place full of fishermen who were always grumpy on the way to spend an hour or two on the other pier
Well, I love it, and think its one of Brighton's most intriguing and soulful landmarks.
From the moment I first laid eyes on as a kid, I've always been more drawn to it than the loud gaudy glitz of Brighton Pier - To me, it always had a quieter, more understated, and less pretentious air of the two.

I also remember the gruff old fishermen... with great fondness for having been so patient, and gentle with (what I was back then) an over excited pip, poking about, dancing around, and asking incessant questions. Funnily enough, I used to walk past the Brighton Pier in order to get to my preferred destination, and back then, those gruff old fishermen only added to the allure of the West Pier.

Tho' the pier now lies in ruins, in my eyes it's now every much a treasured landmark as ever - with the added value of a mysterious and tragic tale to tell.
You see a pile of boring junk, I see a dynamic work of art against an ever-changing backdrop as one season gives way to another.

Vive la différence! eh?
True, I do see a pile of junk and being older, nay much older I to see the Brighton pier as a loud gaudy glitzy place. However it is a truth that cannot be denied, if people had loved it, it wouldn't have fallen into dis-repair
I think you're wrong about people 'not loving it', but right when you say (to rephrase) that people didn't/don't care enough to have saved it. But, in my experience much the same can be said about the public's muted response to saving anything of real value whether it be The Level, Wild Park, Victoria Gardens, the old PO in Ship St, or even stopping the council from the madness its inflicting on Lewis Rd (and look how many people that effects).
In fact, what strikes me most about this city is how complacent and politically apathetic the majority of people are, and how divorced they are from their own heritage.
Still, when partying and having a good time is the priority for most, I guess it's to be expected.
For those who do care enough to campaign for or against A, B or C, not only are they confronted by the energy draining apathy of the local community, but they inevitably come up against the deviousness of the unaccountable corporate bullies that really run the council.
[quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARealBessie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: The West Pier is a much loved landmark Which is not on the land or much loved. If it had been it would have survived like the Brighton pier has, I can remember as a young boy walking past this boring place full of fishermen who were always grumpy on the way to spend an hour or two on the other pier[/p][/quote]Well, I love it, and think its one of Brighton's most intriguing and soulful landmarks. From the moment I first laid eyes on as a kid, I've always been more drawn to it than the loud gaudy glitz of Brighton Pier - To me, it always had a quieter, more understated, and less pretentious air of the two. I also remember the gruff old fishermen... with great fondness for having been so patient, and gentle with (what I was back then) an over excited pip, poking about, dancing around, and asking incessant questions. Funnily enough, I used to walk past the Brighton Pier in order to get to my preferred destination, and back then, those gruff old fishermen only added to the allure of the West Pier. Tho' the pier now lies in ruins, in my eyes it's now every much a treasured landmark as ever - with the added value of a mysterious and tragic tale to tell. You see a pile of boring junk, I see a dynamic work of art against an ever-changing backdrop as one season gives way to another. Vive la différence! eh?[/p][/quote]True, I do see a pile of junk and being older, nay much older I to see the Brighton pier as a loud gaudy glitzy place. However it is a truth that cannot be denied, if people had loved it, it wouldn't have fallen into dis-repair[/p][/quote]I think you're wrong about people 'not loving it', but right when you say (to rephrase) that people didn't/don't care enough to have saved it. But, in my experience much the same can be said about the public's muted response to saving anything of real value whether it be The Level, Wild Park, Victoria Gardens, the old PO in Ship St, or even stopping the council from the madness its inflicting on Lewis Rd (and look how many people that effects). In fact, what strikes me most about this city is how complacent and politically apathetic the majority of people are, and how divorced they are from their own heritage. Still, when partying and having a good time is the priority for most, I guess it's to be expected. For those who do care enough to campaign for or against A, B or C, not only are they confronted by the energy draining apathy of the local community, but they inevitably come up against the deviousness of the unaccountable corporate bullies that really run the council. ARealBessie
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