Green council is urged to put a freeze on tax (From The Argus)

I am thinking of contacting the prime minister to see if there is a way to remove these Green lunatics before they completely destroy Brighton with their disastrous schemes.
There is surely some legal means to get rid of them on the grounds of gross incompetence.

The council will cut library and other essential services anyway.

The extra money must really be for more multi-million pound cycle lanes and lending £14 million to a company building an observation tower that the banks don't appear willing to support.

But there already IS a council tax freeze for some residents. Travellers and students pay the same each year - NOTHING.

Yes give them more money to waste on Travellers cycle lanes.
Nothing will be prioritized for real services or housing or anything to boost the City Center
The less they are given the less they can waste Any increase would not go towards anything worthwhile

Can't wait until we get Rid of The Green
Party at the Next Elections, They have NOT got a Clue.

charlie smirke wrote:
I am thinking of contacting the prime minister to see if there is a way to remove these Green lunatics before they completely destroy Brighton with their disastrous schemes.
There is surely some legal means to get rid of them on the grounds of gross incompetence.

Contact the Prime Minister, off you go. Hey, why don't you start a petition? The last one got 281 people, you might get 282!

Someone else that often comments on here was going to contact Cameron about council consultations, I a still waiting for the repsonse (I think you would have to explain the concept of consultation to Cameron first though).

It might have passed you by but Labour and the Conservatives could vote out the Green administration tomorrow, so why don't they? Firstly, your government will have cut over £100 million from the council budget over four years and whoever is running the council will have no option but to brutally cut. Non-Conservative councils are singled out ifor the biggest cuts as people tend to blame local politicians. Secondly, they support many of the less popular policies, but can hide behind being in opposition.

Despite the recession and the constants stream of comments from you moaners, B&H seems to be getting on far better than most other cities in the country.

Cycle lanes have been funded from central government's Sustainable Transport Fund which the council bid for, not from council tax revenue.

Money borrowed for i360 will be lent to the developers at a higher rate than it costs the council to borrow, thereby generating revenue for the council.

Eugenius wrote:
Cycle lanes have been funded from central government's Sustainable Transport Fund which the council bid for, not from council tax revenue.

Money borrowed for i360 will be lent to the developers at a higher rate than it costs the council to borrow, thereby generating revenue for the council.

Ssshh! Don't tell them that, it will spoil what little argument they have!

Eugenius wrote:
Cycle lanes have been funded from central government's Sustainable Transport Fund which the council bid for, not from council tax revenue.

Money borrowed for i360 will be lent to the developers at a higher rate than it costs the council to borrow, thereby generating revenue for the council.

And the moon is made of cheese.

Thus far, the hysterically described 'brutal cuts' don't seem to stretch as far as vanity projects, consultancy and executive fees or kitcat's own proposed salary increase.
Hjarrs, characters like you are far too free and easy with other people's money, due either to vested interests or out of step naivety. Either way, its time you and your ilk got your grubby little fingers out of our pockets and accepted like most sensible people that the gravy train is off the rails.
If you feel that strongly then put your money where your mouth is and write a big fat cheque to your heroic green spendthrifts, sit back and bask in your own sanctimonious aura. I wonder if you really have the courage of your convictions or whether you're just happy to talk wrong headed rubbish and ultimately be a drain on your neighbours' scarce resources.

Eugenius wrote:
Cycle lanes have been funded from central government's Sustainable Transport Fund which the council bid for, not from council tax revenue.

Money borrowed for i360 will be lent to the developers at a higher rate than it costs the council to borrow, thereby generating revenue for the council.

Yes genius and that comes from ?

Well done - taxation.

One way or another we pay !

HJarrs wrote:

charlie smirke wrote:
I am thinking of contacting the prime minister to see if there is a way to remove these Green lunatics before they completely destroy Brighton with their disastrous schemes.
There is surely some legal means to get rid of them on the grounds of gross incompetence.

Contact the Prime Minister, off you go. Hey, why don't you start a petition? The last one got 281 people, you might get 282!

Someone else that often comments on here was going to contact Cameron about council consultations, I a still waiting for the repsonse (I think you would have to explain the concept of consultation to Cameron first though).

It might have passed you by but Labour and the Conservatives could vote out the Green administration tomorrow, so why don't they? Firstly, your government will have cut over £100 million from the council budget over four years and whoever is running the council will have no option but to brutally cut. Non-Conservative councils are singled out ifor the biggest cuts as people tend to blame local politicians. Secondly, they support many of the less popular policies, but can hide behind being in opposition.

Despite the recession and the constants stream of comments from you moaners, B&H seems to be getting on far better than most other cities in the country.

H Jarrs silver tongue is on the go again.

Just a few comments :-

1) I think we all need the concept of consultation, as practised by the Greens, explained to us.

2) What you accuse the Conservatives of is not their sole preserve. Labour practised it previously and it is practised by the Green Council here albeit on a smaller scale.

3) You clearly don't know what brutal cuts are. We have a bit of tinkering to slow the rte of increase in expenditure resulting from the madness of Gordon Brown. Ask the Greeks about brutal cuts.

4) On what basis and with what evidence can you claim Brighton is gtting on far better than most - it is clear that many more people are dissatisfied with the Greens here
than are satisfied with them.

Idontbelieveit1948 wrote:

HJarrs wrote:

charlie smirke wrote:
I am thinking of contacting the prime minister to see if there is a way to remove these Green lunatics before they completely destroy Brighton with their disastrous schemes.
There is surely some legal means to get rid of them on the grounds of gross incompetence.

Contact the Prime Minister, off you go. Hey, why don't you start a petition? The last one got 281 people, you might get 282!

Someone else that often comments on here was going to contact Cameron about council consultations, I a still waiting for the repsonse (I think you would have to explain the concept of consultation to Cameron first though).

It might have passed you by but Labour and the Conservatives could vote out the Green administration tomorrow, so why don't they? Firstly, your government will have cut over £100 million from the council budget over four years and whoever is running the council will have no option but to brutally cut. Non-Conservative councils are singled out ifor the biggest cuts as people tend to blame local politicians. Secondly, they support many of the less popular policies, but can hide behind being in opposition.

Despite the recession and the constants stream of comments from you moaners, B&H seems to be getting on far better than most other cities in the country.

H Jarrs silver tongue is on the go again.

Just a few comments :-

1) I think we all need the concept of consultation, as practised by the Greens, explained to us.

2) What you accuse the Conservatives of is not their sole preserve. Labour practised it previously and it is practised by the Green Council here albeit on a smaller scale.

3) You clearly don't know what brutal cuts are. We have a bit of tinkering to slow the rte of increase in expenditure resulting from the madness of Gordon Brown. Ask the Greeks about brutal cuts.

4) On what basis and with what evidence can you claim Brighton is gtting on far better than most - it is clear that many more people are dissatisfied with the Greens here
than are satisfied with them.

1) a lot of people seem to confuse negotiation with consultation.

2) Glad you agree with me that we have a vindictive Conservative Party in government that is penalising B&H and other local authorities.

3) We have done pretty well so far, but it will not last. Other local authorities have made into the thousands of job cuts and service reductions. Over the next 2-3 years B&H will, like most local authorities, be pretty much down to providing statutory services only. I expect significant cuts and job loses over the next 2-3 years.

4) Read the Argus! Things are not booming, we are, afterall, heading into a third recession but, a month or so ago B&H was considered to be the 3rd most attractive city for new businesses if memory serves correctly and there have been articles about the jobs market holding up and unemployment is slowly going down, that is even before a whole string of developments announced last year, including the £400 million plus hospital build in today's paper, put a spade in the ground. It doesn't sound like a city in trouble to me!

As for whether the Greens are popular or not, when is any party ever popular? Despite the cuts being due to reduction of government grants and prevention of even raising council tax by inflation, I would be amazed if they were popular and returned to office as they are the party in power during the biggest cuts in local government since...ever maybe? Certainly WW2.

Eugenius wrote:
Cycle lanes have been funded from central government's Sustainable Transport Fund which the council bid for, not from council tax revenue.

Money borrowed for i360 will be lent to the developers at a higher rate than it costs the council to borrow, thereby generating revenue for the council.

"Cycle lanes have been funded from central government's Sustainable Transport Fund which the council bid for, not from council tax revenue."

Eugenious, I think you'll find that only 50% comes from a direct grant the other is made up from local taxes. So the local taxes being spent is still a considerable sum.

I can't wait for the Greens to go so we can accuse a different party of ruining the city.

Tell a lie often enough and with enough conviction and it becomes accepted truth. Everytime the cycle lanes are brought in as an indication of ideologically motivated wasting of local taxes, Green supporters will shout that it was funded by the Sustainable Transport Fund.

Oh for heavens sake Hjarrs, spending cuts haven't yet hit 2010 levels let alone 1945. You really are a grade A plonker.
As much as I admire your passion in your beliefs, your grasp of the facts would suggest that you're going off ever so slightly half cocked. Again.

HJarrs wrote:

charlie smirke wrote:
I am thinking of contacting the prime minister to see if there is a way to remove these Green lunatics before they completely destroy Brighton with their disastrous schemes.
There is surely some legal means to get rid of them on the grounds of gross incompetence.

Contact the Prime Minister, off you go. Hey, why don't you start a petition? The last one got 281 people, you might get 282!

Someone else that often comments on here was going to contact Cameron about council consultations, I a still waiting for the repsonse (I think you would have to explain the concept of consultation to Cameron first though).

It might have passed you by but Labour and the Conservatives could vote out the Green administration tomorrow, so why don't they? Firstly, your government will have cut over £100 million from the council budget over four years and whoever is running the council will have no option but to brutally cut. Non-Conservative councils are singled out ifor the biggest cuts as people tend to blame local politicians. Secondly, they support many of the less popular policies, but can hide behind being in opposition.

Despite the recession and the constants stream of comments from you moaners, B&H seems to be getting on far better than most other cities in the country.

"Despite the recession and the constants (sic) stream of comments from you moaners..."

So by "you moaners", do you mean the electorate of Brighton that the Green Party are supposed to be representing? That's the bit that seems to have passed you by. Very few people in Brighton support the Greens. Even those that voted Green regret it, now you are in power and are making such a bleedin' mess of it.

I reckon you must be Jason 4brownfingers or a close companion. Utterly out of touch with reality.