MP calls on squatters to clear out of planned Brighton restaurant (From The Argus)

Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

I agree, another chain restaurant is the last thing Brighton needs right now. It will do nothing whatsoever to enhance the character of the Lanes.

We are a tourist city and do need restaurants let alone 120 jobs, these squatters seem to know nothing about, not to mention this is a grade II listed building. How many of these squatters have links to Brighton through family or work, not many I bet. Housing is not the issue, as many other people find housing whether in this city or having to move out slightly or anywhere in the EU. Its about being ridiculous and an alternative lifestyle. The sooner this council get a grip the better.

The building has been empty for nearly 6 years while people sleep on the streets. Good luck to the squatters. I think I can live without yet another chain opening a store in Brighton but I'm not sure how Weatherley can live with himself given his comments about the poor would-be squatter who died in the cold outside a derelict house the other week.

I thought this building was reported recently as being one of those in danger of collapse.

gaz scott wrote:
The building has been empty for nearly 6 years while people sleep on the streets. Good luck to the squatters. I think I can live without yet another chain opening a store in Brighton but I'm not sure how Weatherley can live with himself given his comments about the poor would-be squatter who died in the cold outside a derelict house the other week.

So you are quite happy that 120 people don't get new jobs? if anyone is sleeping on the streets it is because they choose too. Squatting isn't about being homeless. It is about wanting something for nothing.

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

Well done Mike Weatherley for everything he has achieved so far.
I have had numerous first hand experiences of dealing with these "squatters" and the conditions they leave properties in. They are nearly all kids from normal backgrounds who are playing at being outcasts and taking lots of drugs etc and being "alternative".
Whether you like this reality or not the fact is I'm right. Bring on TGI's and the associated jobs which will be good for all. The irony is most of these kids will probably take their families there one day when they grow up!

Housing shortage eh?

Go pick up a copy of latest homes. FREE at any estate agents. Seems like there are plenty of available properties. The problem these deadbeats have is that they don't want to work and pay rent like the rest of us.

This nothing whatsoever to do with homelessness. They chose this lifestyle.

chrisso wrote:
I agree, another chain restaurant is the last thing Brighton needs right now. It will do nothing whatsoever to enhance the character of the Lanes.

But people squatting does?

Weatherly....Just another out of touch MP who has become an 'attack dog' for the nasty party!

The 'society' he and his chums want is where they continue to profit, and to hell with everyone else!

gaz scott wrote:
The building has been empty for nearly 6 years while people sleep on the streets. Good luck to the squatters. I think I can live without yet another chain opening a store in Brighton but I'm not sure how Weatherley can live with himself given his comments about the poor would-be squatter who died in the cold outside a derelict house the other week.

Ah yes ... but don't forget. Weatherley differentiates between the homeless and squatters. As the law he drove through addresses squatters specifically being homeless and freezing to death on the door step of an empty home or building has nothing to do with him; or so he would claim.

Back to the article!

How many restaurants have closed for business in Brighton since 2007?

chrisso wrote:
I agree, another chain restaurant is the last thing Brighton needs right now. It will do nothing whatsoever to enhance the character of the Lanes.

When this Restaurant opens it will "PROVIDE" 120 jobs however most of those employed will need experience. Management Chefs Cooks Waiters or Waitresses so they will only be moving jobs,Mr James could you possibly find out how many seats there are in Restaurants throughout the City, This would give an indication of the need for more Eateries which I doubt is very big,

How many empty properties are there in B&H that could quite easily be used to re-home these homeless squatters to many but dose this Council or any of the many MPs landlords that own these empty probity’s do something about it NO but they are quite happy to kick them out for another so called restaurant to witch we have to much of why not turn it into homes for the many homeless instead of another unwanted restaurant O’ NO cant do that the restaurant will bring in many jobs and lots of money – making homes brings to many headaches.

We can be certain of one thing regarding the state of the interior; it will be somewhat worse once the squatters are removed that it previously was.

It seems people are missing the point here. A company wants to open a restaurant, but could be anything, but they can not do so as there are people who have broken into the building and now refuse to leave. And no doubt destroy the 115 year old structure.

It makes no odds if the building has been empty since yesterday or 2007. Forcefully entering a building that does not belong to you, or where the owner has not given you permission to be there is illegal. However for what every reason these scum seem to have rights and you can't just send some big blokes in and "ask" them to leave.

wippasnapper wrote:
How many empty properties are there in B&H that could quite easily be used to re-home these homeless squatters to many but dose this Council or any of the many MPs landlords that own these empty probity’s do something about it NO but they are quite happy to kick them out for another so called restaurant to witch we have to much of why not turn it into homes for the many homeless instead of another unwanted restaurant O’ NO cant do that the restaurant will bring in many jobs and lots of money – making homes brings to many headaches.

If you can use proper spelling, punctuation and grammar that would be nice, thanks.

wippasnapper wrote:
How many empty properties are there in B&H that could quite easily be used to re-home these homeless squatters to many but dose this Council or any of the many MPs landlords that own these empty probity’s do something about it NO but they are quite happy to kick them out for another so called restaurant to witch we have to much of why not turn it into homes for the many homeless instead of another unwanted restaurant O’ NO cant do that the restaurant will bring in many jobs and lots of money – making homes brings to many headaches.

Not wanting to make assumptions here but everything about your post leads me to believe that you don't really grasp the fundamentals of this issue.

You talk about "making homes" and "re-homing" squatters and homeless. Who is going to pay for this? You? Or Are you a representative of the growing underclass who have spent their entire lives living off the state and as a result have no real concept of hard work and the value of money?

Cave Johnson wrote:

wippasnapper wrote:
How many empty properties are there in B&H that could quite easily be used to re-home these homeless squatters to many but dose this Council or any of the many MPs landlords that own these empty probity’s do something about it NO but they are quite happy to kick them out for another so called restaurant to witch we have to much of why not turn it into homes for the many homeless instead of another unwanted restaurant O’ NO cant do that the restaurant will bring in many jobs and lots of money – making homes brings to many headaches.

If you can use proper spelling, punctuation and grammar that would be nice, thanks.

If the property is owned by someone then surely it is their choice with what they do with it. It's not a given right that it should be used for homeless/squatters.

I would also think that creating 120 jobs would be a good thing. But maybe that's just me.

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

And yet your rant makes no mention of the Greens objections to in turning unused business buildings into housing - Tory bashing as usual one would guess.

Personally, if I was the owner I'd just hire some thugs to smash their way in and clear the building.

I think you can bet your balls that the squatters will not return to work at the premises once converted.

If the restaurant plans do go ahead, then the premises had better be disinfected and fumigated before the renovation begins!!

Cave Johnson wrote:

gaz scott wrote:
The building has been empty for nearly 6 years while people sleep on the streets. Good luck to the squatters. I think I can live without yet another chain opening a store in Brighton but I'm not sure how Weatherley can live with himself given his comments about the poor would-be squatter who died in the cold outside a derelict house the other week.

So you are quite happy that 120 people don't get new jobs? if anyone is sleeping on the streets it is because they choose too. Squatting isn't about being homeless. It is about wanting something for nothing.

If you truly think that people choose to be homeless, then you have serious problems ie sociopathic personality disorder.

gaz scott wrote:
The building has been empty for nearly 6 years while people sleep on the streets. Good luck to the squatters. I think I can live without yet another chain opening a store in Brighton but I'm not sure how Weatherley can live with himself given his comments about the poor would-be squatter who died in the cold outside a derelict house the other week.

I'd be extremely careful about apportioning blame unless you know the facts of the story, which you appear not to based on local reporting of the issue.

I'd also refer you to the following from Shelter:

http://england.shelt
er.org.uk/get_advice
/downloads_and_tools
/emergency_housing_r
ights_checker

Squatters are just leeches.

Yes we need more affordable homes. Yet plans to build more of these are being opposed by Mr Kitkat etc who oppose converting unused business space into homes. Prices are too high in Brighton - but there is limited supply. Increase supply and prices should fall or at least be maintained rather than keep rising.

We need inventive solutions to turn unused space, rooms and brownfield sites to affordable homes. The planning system doesn't seem to help this - or the current political leaders

Clued-up wrote:

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

Well done Mike Weatherley for everything he has achieved so far.
I have had numerous first hand experiences of dealing with these "squatters" and the conditions they leave properties in. They are nearly all kids from normal backgrounds who are playing at being outcasts and taking lots of drugs etc and being "alternative".
Whether you like this reality or not the fact is I'm right. Bring on TGI's and the associated jobs which will be good for all. The irony is most of these kids will probably take their families there one day when they grow up!

Yes, yes, quite so.

Squatters are middle-class brats (called Sebastian and Gemima) pretending to be edgy and alternative, Tweeting to their friends at Pony Club about how they are 'smashing the system' by illegally occupying property.

Sebastian and Gemima will no doubt vacate this building when the novelty wears off, and mummy stops delivering food to them in the family Volvo

what has happened to the new law that squatters CAN be moved out it happened in Lewes Road last year so has it all gone to the dogs again?

dawind wrote:

Cave Johnson wrote:

gaz scott wrote: The building has been empty for nearly 6 years while people sleep on the streets. Good luck to the squatters. I think I can live without yet another chain opening a store in Brighton but I'm not sure how Weatherley can live with himself given his comments about the poor would-be squatter who died in the cold outside a derelict house the other week.

So you are quite happy that 120 people don't get new jobs? if anyone is sleeping on the streets it is because they choose too. Squatting isn't about being homeless. It is about wanting something for nothing.

If you truly think that people choose to be homeless, then you have serious problems ie sociopathic personality disorder.

So where did you get your doctorate? What's that? oh you don't have one? i expect you'll shut up now.

For all these idiots saying 'well we don't need another restaurant' - who the hell do you think you are to say what we do and don't need in Brighton?

Clearly you don't think that employment is important either as nobody can be employed at TGI's new restaurant until they get rid of these wasters.

minnie&teddy wrote:
what has happened to the new law that squatters CAN be moved out it happened in Lewes Road last year so has it all gone to the dogs again?

I think the property in Lewes Road was a private property where squatting is now outlawed. For some strange reason squatting isn't outlawed in commercial properties - yet.

friday, friday
gonna get down on friday...

it's really interesting how squatters are marginalized as being
a) wasters
b) privileged
i mean, there are a great deal of both of these in mainstream society (drunk students vomiting all over the beach, politicians annihilating public services) and that doesn't seem to be much of a problem.
personally, i'd prefer the post office wasn't squatted. it's a beautiful building, but through neglect by its 'owners' it fell into an awful and almost completely non-livable condition. there is (or was) no running water, dead pigeons in a large part of the building, asbestos (apparently). really, the people who are there have no other alternative. any of the long-empty, far more suitable residential properties are now kept safe & empty on the taxpayers' penny.

I heard that Saint Caroline had offered them shelter in her house, but the squatters didn't fancy the trip to brussels.

as much as I don't want to see another chain here, their onion rings are pretty unbeatable.

And if you ask for 'frings' you get 'fries' AND 'onion rings'

PS - what's with the use of the word 'anarchistic' - what's wrong with 'anarchic'?

I was out for a meal last night with the missus. Unusual for a school night, in fact unusual for any night & I was AMAZED how busy the restaurants in Brighton were. All the way from the lbrary quarter through the lanes they were chocker.
Okay Fridays isn't to everyones taste, but the city definately is under capacity for restaurant usage.
They do, do a mighty fine long island ice tea and perhaps some of the homeless could consider getting jobs there when it opens and paying rent or mortgage like the rest of us.

The underlying problem is the lack of affordable housing. I am seeing more people on the street and changes to come to benefits will see families out on the streets all quite unbelievable in 2013. Some of the dehumanisers that comment will no doubt have no problem with this.

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

Same old drivel again!! Get a job, and you can afford it, rent or share a house, it's not rocket science. Don't give me that utter rubbish. Work hard and you get what you want in life. These pathetic free loaders need to move on.

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

Yep.

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

How about the dirty scroungers go and get a job.

Hoarder12345444 wrote:

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

Same old drivel again!! Get a job, and you can afford it, rent or share a house, it's not rocket science. Don't give me that utter rubbish. Work hard and you get what you want in life. These pathetic free loaders need to move on.

You are a bit out of date. Work hard and you can expect to rent for life, struggle and have a poor pension at the end of it. Sadly, we are led by a government of chancers and those born into wealth who have little concern for the rest of us.

HJarrs wrote:

Hoarder12345444 wrote:

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

Same old drivel again!! Get a job, and you can afford it, rent or share a house, it's not rocket science. Don't give me that utter rubbish. Work hard and you get what you want in life. These pathetic free loaders need to move on.

You are a bit out of date. Work hard and you can expect to rent for life, struggle and have a poor pension at the end of it. Sadly, we are led by a government of chancers and those born into wealth who have little concern for the rest of us.

I suspect very few people have any concern for you HJarrs. As a purveyor of complete and utter nonsense your posts have become a source of amusement on this site and highlight just how ridiculous your green party and its followers are.

Then there's good old Gaz Scott another waste of time spouting forth support for all that we know is wrong.

And then we have the rest of the benefit grabbing, free loading wasters that post on here and act as a permanent reminder of why the benefits gravy train should speed up its journey to the end game of zero benefits!

How the good people laugh!

It is excellent to see that these youngsters have seen sense and occupied this building. Occupying empty property has a very long and proud history which has made this country truly great. After all, I believe India, America, Australia, Ireland and large parts of Africa where technically not being used before our brave and entrepreneurial forefathers used their ingenuity to occupy these empty areas and do something useful with them. I can see the same spirit of entrepreneurship and adventure in today's well-educated users of empty property. This will be good for economic growth.

true-brightonian wrote:
It is excellent to see that these youngsters have seen sense and occupied this building. Occupying empty property has a very long and proud history which has made this country truly great. After all, I believe India, America, Australia, Ireland and large parts of Africa where technically not being used before our brave and entrepreneurial forefathers used their ingenuity to occupy these empty areas and do something useful with them. I can see the same spirit of entrepreneurship and adventure in today's well-educated users of empty property. This will be good for economic growth.

Laughable!

YET AGAIN evil bas*ard Weatherley spouts more lying hatred, and yet again Tory rag Argus eagerly laps it up like the good dog it is. Pathetic and vile.



BTW, laughing at you Tory boys defending him with more lies and spin here - know WHY he's in papers so much, shooting his mouth off lately??


'Cos he is not an idiot, and knows Tory party splitting - it seems Mr Weatherley wants to get a big piece of the pie, and is using nasty talk and willing media to "get on the map" in time to grab himself a cabinet position come the forthcoming Tory leadership elections!!


By spouting such right wing nonsense, especially in wake of Eastleigh UKIP result, its obvious he either will defect to UKIP, hoping for very high position, or just frontbench Tory seat as party splitting into normal right wing nutters, and ultra right wing nutters - can guess which side he'll be on!!


So think on THAT Tory boys, before you leap to his defence!!


Guarantee it will happen. He is a shrewd career politician.


Oh, he's also paid £2,500 MONTHLY for just SIX hours work by a local firm, gets paid trips to Hong Kong, and has one of the WORST parliament attendance records!! And QUARTER of all Tory MPs are LANDLORDS. You figure out his obsession with squatters!

All free information, not argued with by him. Simple facts. Ask his office / Google if dont believe me.

Cave Johnson wrote:

gaz scott wrote:
The building has been empty for nearly 6 years while people sleep on the streets. Good luck to the squatters. I think I can live without yet another chain opening a store in Brighton but I'm not sure how Weatherley can live with himself given his comments about the poor would-be squatter who died in the cold outside a derelict house the other week.

So you are quite happy that 120 people don't get new jobs? if anyone is sleeping on the streets it is because they choose too. Squatting isn't about being homeless. It is about wanting something for nothing.

people do not always chose to live on the streets, thats a pathetic statement. health,divorce or bad luck among many others are all reasons people can lose everything.small minded thoughtless comment.i hope none of your family or friends suffer the same as so many others do through no fault of their own.

Good Luck to the squatters.
Keep warm guys!!

HJarrs wrote:

Hoarder12345444 wrote:

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

Same old drivel again!! Get a job, and you can afford it, rent or share a house, it's not rocket science. Don't give me that utter rubbish. Work hard and you get what you want in life. These pathetic free loaders need to move on.

You are a bit out of date. Work hard and you can expect to rent for life, struggle and have a poor pension at the end of it. Sadly, we are led by a government of chancers and those born into wealth who have little concern for the rest of us.

Or you can bum around, pay no tax or N.I. and get NO pension at the end of your "working" life. Do you fancy still squatting into your seventies?

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

HJarrs wrote:

Hoarder12345444 wrote:

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

Same old drivel again!! Get a job, and you can afford it, rent or share a house, it's not rocket science. Don't give me that utter rubbish. Work hard and you get what you want in life. These pathetic free loaders need to move on.

You are a bit out of date. Work hard and you can expect to rent for life, struggle and have a poor pension at the end of it. Sadly, we are led by a government of chancers and those born into wealth who have little concern for the rest of us.

I suspect very few people have any concern for you HJarrs. As a purveyor of complete and utter nonsense your posts have become a source of amusement on this site and highlight just how ridiculous your green party and its followers are.

Then there's good old Gaz Scott another waste of time spouting forth support for all that we know is wrong.

And then we have the rest of the benefit grabbing, free loading wasters that post on here and act as a permanent reminder of why the benefits gravy train should speed up its journey to the end game of zero benefits!

How the good people laugh!

Ah my favourite troll!

Any thoughts on the actual article? I think it is a disgrace that in 2013 people are being turfed out of their homes, little is done to build new housing and instead of sorting things out the government is too busy being the only one from 27 EU nations to fight for bankers bonuses, the very people that bear most responsibility for the financial state the country finds itself in. Wouldn't you agree? Oh, I forgot we are supposed to blame squatters and other groups that are not able to defend themselves.

HJarrs wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:

HJarrs wrote:

Hoarder12345444 wrote:

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

Same old drivel again!! Get a job, and you can afford it, rent or share a house, it's not rocket science. Don't give me that utter rubbish. Work hard and you get what you want in life. These pathetic free loaders need to move on.

You are a bit out of date. Work hard and you can expect to rent for life, struggle and have a poor pension at the end of it. Sadly, we are led by a government of chancers and those born into wealth who have little concern for the rest of us.

I suspect very few people have any concern for you HJarrs. As a purveyor of complete and utter nonsense your posts have become a source of amusement on this site and highlight just how ridiculous your green party and its followers are.

Then there's good old Gaz Scott another waste of time spouting forth support for all that we know is wrong.

And then we have the rest of the benefit grabbing, free loading wasters that post on here and act as a permanent reminder of why the benefits gravy train should speed up its journey to the end game of zero benefits!

How the good people laugh!

Ah my favourite troll!

Any thoughts on the actual article? I think it is a disgrace that in 2013 people are being turfed out of their homes, little is done to build new housing and instead of sorting things out the government is too busy being the only one from 27 EU nations to fight for bankers bonuses, the very people that bear most responsibility for the financial state the country finds itself in. Wouldn't you agree? Oh, I forgot we are supposed to blame squatters and other groups that are not able to defend themselves.

No, I don't agree. In what way are people being turfed out of their homes? If they are, for what reasons are they being turfed out? Are you referring to social housing? Surely the houses belong to the taxpayer and not the individual?

Do you understand the importance of financial services to the UK? Do you understand the importance of people not being able to honour their debts in the financial crisis? (No votes in pointing the finger at the people who are actually responsible for the debts, although it's a valid question as to whether they should have been offered them in the first place).

No one blames squatters for anything, however, the vast majority agree that we shouldn't tolerate squatting in any way.

Maybe Caroline 'Brussels' Lucas could house some of the squatters in one of the 5 homes that she and her multi-millionaire husband Richard Savage own?

chrisso wrote:
I agree, another chain restaurant is the last thing Brighton needs right now. It will do nothing whatsoever to enhance the character of the Lanes.

So a derelict building full of squatters DOES enhance the character of The Lanes? What a ridiculous response. The squatters need to get a good wash, smarten themselves up (including removing tatoos, studs and rings), join real society and find themselves jobs. Once they have jobs they can find accommodation.

Decent people call on nasty party MP Mike Weatherley to clear out of Brighton.

There Argus, fixed that headline for you...

doggle wrote:
Decent people call on nasty party MP Mike Weatherley to clear out of Brighton.

There Argus, fixed that headline for you...

hear her.. right wing tory filth..

*hear!

God forbid we should actually increase employment in Brighton!

The pro squatting, Socialist Worker reading ultra left loonies here clearly don't think that the creation of 120 jobs is important. Most people think differently though.

Morons.

Good luck to the squatters?! If this was the response I thought I'd get, I'd start squatting rather than spending a small FORTUNE on rent, council tax and everything else that comes with being a responsible citizen. Good luck to the squatters? DO ONE. If I had my way, they'd be forced out at gunpoint and made to sweep the streets, wearing nothing but a mankini which my taxes had paid for whilst I point and laugh at their hopeless little existence. Good luck? Do me a favour.

AmboGuy wrote:
God forbid we should actually increase employment in Brighton!

The pro squatting, Socialist Worker reading ultra left loonies here clearly don't think that the creation of 120 jobs is important. Most people think differently though.

Morons.

With you all the way, there are very few people who actually need to be on the streets.

Try hard enough, want it hard enough and there is work and money. You dont earn or contribute to society then your on your own. Of course this excludes those with 'genuine' disabilityes before any smart r's decideds to pipe up!.

There is always room for other restaurants and if these squatters actually got off their backsides, had a bath and had some self respect they may actually be able to book a table and enjoy a meal that they can pay for with hard earned cash just like the majority of us do!

The laws need to change to incorporate commercial properties or alternatively a law to prevent landlords from being prosecuted should they decide to carry out their own form of pest control!

120 jobs, a small boost for those that want to work

HJarrs wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:

HJarrs wrote:

Hoarder12345444 wrote:

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

Same old drivel again!! Get a job, and you can afford it, rent or share a house, it's not rocket science. Don't give me that utter rubbish. Work hard and you get what you want in life. These pathetic free loaders need to move on.

You are a bit out of date. Work hard and you can expect to rent for life, struggle and have a poor pension at the end of it. Sadly, we are led by a government of chancers and those born into wealth who have little concern for the rest of us.

I suspect very few people have any concern for you HJarrs. As a purveyor of complete and utter nonsense your posts have become a source of amusement on this site and highlight just how ridiculous your green party and its followers are.

Then there's good old Gaz Scott another waste of time spouting forth support for all that we know is wrong.

And then we have the rest of the benefit grabbing, free loading wasters that post on here and act as a permanent reminder of why the benefits gravy train should speed up its journey to the end game of zero benefits!

How the good people laugh!

Ah my favourite troll!

Any thoughts on the actual article? I think it is a disgrace that in 2013 people are being turfed out of their homes, little is done to build new housing and instead of sorting things out the government is too busy being the only one from 27 EU nations to fight for bankers bonuses, the very people that bear most responsibility for the financial state the country finds itself in. Wouldn't you agree? Oh, I forgot we are supposed to blame squatters and other groups that are not able to defend themselves.

HJarrs

Please keep up posting your nonsensical rubbish. It helps to remind us that if we take the opposite view to you we will do well.

All we need is more freeloaders.I suppose they have power and heating.
Professional squatters probably from very privaleged backgrounds.

Wonderful thread and it comes down to this. Those who are of the 'I'm alright Jack' and get a job and all will be well variety and others are of the either 'too many eateries already' or the 'Squatting is a legitimate form of protest about the lack of affordable housing' variety - interspersed with a few Weatherley is a self serving, self obsessed and a few other forms of self-'x' varieties.

And ne'er the twain shall meet ;-)

Cave Johnson wrote:

gaz scott wrote:
The building has been empty for nearly 6 years while people sleep on the streets. Good luck to the squatters. I think I can live without yet another chain opening a store in Brighton but I'm not sure how Weatherley can live with himself given his comments about the poor would-be squatter who died in the cold outside a derelict house the other week.

So you are quite happy that 120 people don't get new jobs? if anyone is sleeping on the streets it is because they choose too. Squatting isn't about being homeless. It is about wanting something for nothing.

How much of a sheltered life must you lead to believe that people who sleep on the streets do so because they choose to? You try spending one night on the streets and see if you still believe anyone would EVER "choose" that life.

squiggs wrote:

Cave Johnson wrote:

gaz scott wrote:
The building has been empty for nearly 6 years while people sleep on the streets. Good luck to the squatters. I think I can live without yet another chain opening a store in Brighton but I'm not sure how Weatherley can live with himself given his comments about the poor would-be squatter who died in the cold outside a derelict house the other week.

So you are quite happy that 120 people don't get new jobs? if anyone is sleeping on the streets it is because they choose too. Squatting isn't about being homeless. It is about wanting something for nothing.

How much of a sheltered life must you lead to believe that people who sleep on the streets do so because they choose to? You try spending one night on the streets and see if you still believe anyone would EVER "choose" that life.

Good link to Shelter's website.

http://england.shelt
er.org.uk/get_advice
/homelessness/homele
ss_peoples_rights

Far more help available to the homeless than pro-squatters would have you believe.

Help is one thing, accessibility is another.

Help the homeless definately yes but not freeloading predominantly middle class squatters.

Squatters here in the UK are a different breed to squatters say like in Holland ! there was a place in Leiden that was called "Anna Leiden" that had been squatted by Dutch and British squatters , during 6/7 years the grounds around the building were tidied up Veg gardens and a community garden the once derelict buildings were made habitable ! the "Geemente " (council) saw the improvements and due to local support the squatters were given permission to stay on condition that Geemente taxes were paid(Rates/council tax) also that utilities were re established !"Anna Leiden" is now a thriving community! shame that all we hear about here in the UK are stories about "Destructive " squatters!

Has the self-styled leader of the opposition Saint Caroline been to visit them yet? She loves spending time with people who contribute nothing whilst patently ignoring the needs and wishes of her constituents who pay her inflated salary.

I didn't want ot mention that!! The Greens DO like to keep that little snippet of information quiet!

NickBrt wrote:
I didn't want ot mention that!! The Greens DO like to keep that little snippet of information quiet!

Are you sure that you didn't want to mention that as you've said it twice on this thread alone, not to mention the countless other times on other threads!
I like most on here are pretty anti-green but the main difference is I wasn't mug enough to vote them in in the first place and give the no-hoping chancers an opportunity to wreck this city...which they have grabbed with both hands!

HJarrs wrote:
The underlying problem is the lack of affordable housing. I am seeing more people on the street and changes to come to benefits will see families out on the streets all quite unbelievable in 2013. Some of the dehumanisers that comment will no doubt have no problem with this.

perhaps move to cheaper location?

I have been living in the Post Office for just over a year now and have read the article and some of the comments, although typically of many articles printed in The Argus, the comments section is trolled by many narrow-minded people who really have no idea how life is for anyone but themselves, and consider this the 'right' and 'proper' way to be.

I am certainly not a 'middle class brat' at the age of 32 I have been squatting for approximately 12 years and in that time I have, save for 19 days never claimed housing benefit.

Whilst I agree that for some, the creation of new jobs is a good thing, since they are tied to paying their mortgages and the extortionate rents charged by landlords in Brighton, I agree with the first comment wholeheartedly in that what is not needed is another restaurant in Brighton, there are many smaller businesses of this nature in Brighton who would suffer directly as a result of the presence of yet another huge chain opening up in the centre of town.

It is apparent to me that in recent years Brighton has started to become a lot like other highly-commercialize
d towns and as a result there now seems to be something of a lout-culture, people coming from out-of-town to spend their wages here who have little regard for the town or those who want to live here and contribute to the town itself and the people who live here rather than simply its economy and the back pockets of those who 'support' it, and of course themselves. Do we really need another place for large groups to congregate before hitting the town and getting **** and abusive/violent on West Street to the resident population.

This building is absolutely huge and yes, it could and should create new jobs, for local workers to convert it into affordable council housing rather than supporting the bank balances of fat cats who aren't even from the town let alone this country. How about keeping it in the 'family'?

Why does everything have to be about money? I despise the people who ignorantly cry 'get a f***ing job' when clearly there are not enough jobs to go round because anyone who is working needs the highest-paid job with the longest hours they can find in order to pay for their comparatively (to that of a squatter, for example) lavish lifestyles not to mention their rent costs of around £1000 a month for a livable-in sized property. Personally I would rather be a volunteer in a project which is for people, not for profit.

Having looked over the plans on the council's website, I see there is no provision outlined by TGI Fridays whatsoever to develop the larger part of the building which they have no intention of using. Above the proposed resturant area (ground floor at the front of the building and the basement) is an area which could be converted into at least 15-20 flats, not to mention the area to the rear of the post office where I currently live which could likely be converted into a similar number of dwellings, so it seems they have no interest in making a social contribution to the community.

For anyone who is interested, there is no running water and no drainage, as the copper and lead pipes were stolen by previous occupants, along with the copper electrical cables. I had to acquire 60 metres of electrical cable just to get a few lights up here and an internet connection on the go. The first time I came to this building a year ago was was at the request of a friend to get some lights and plug sockets working for the people who remained after the metals had been stolen. I ended up moving in and getting a few things working and continue to improve the space inside as I can afford.

It's no life of luxury without sanitation but given some lengths of piping, and the appropriate fixtures, it wouldn't take me too long to get a toilet, shower and kitchen area on the go. I moved away from the other part of the building where I originally lived, largely inhabited by junkies as I don't want to be around that filthy drug which has taken away so many good as well as bad people. I'll stay here as long as I am able because I don't want to contribute to the fucktarded concept of capitalism which most people seem to lap up despite the inevitable end results including need, greed, corruption, inflation and pollution.

Since the to-be-left-vacant portions of the building are earmarked by the council for residential use, there would be no need to apply for planning permission to use those areas as such and it would be perfectly possible for would-be squatters to become part of a housing co-operative to lease the rest of the building from its owners. Maybe this is an occupation I should think about pursuing...

PS MP Mike Weatherly should kindly die. I have no time or respect for any member of a party who evade democracy (ie the passing of the criminalization of squatting in residential buildings despite 90+ % of public and professional opinions being against such act) not to mention wanting to scrap the Human Rights Act. Whatever next?

Sussex jim wrote:

HJarrs wrote:

Hoarder12345444 wrote:

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

Same old drivel again!! Get a job, and you can afford it, rent or share a house, it's not rocket science. Don't give me that utter rubbish. Work hard and you get what you want in life. These pathetic free loaders need to move on.

You are a bit out of date. Work hard and you can expect to rent for life, struggle and have a poor pension at the end of it. Sadly, we are led by a government of chancers and those born into wealth who have little concern for the rest of us.

Or you can bum around, pay no tax or N.I. and get NO pension at the end of your "working" life. Do you fancy still squatting into your seventies?

This is assuming that there will still be an organization existing to pay out pensions at the end of one's working life.

Have you ever tried to stack coins just as high as you can? In the end the piles of money always become unstable and collapse.

Caute3 wrote:
Because of course, this is what Brighton needs... yet another restaurant. I'm sure if said MP offered the squatters decent housing they'd move. What? No housing? None at all? And you wonder why people squat... It's not a brain teaser people.

My son had to live there for a couple of months he's born and bred brighton !! 750,000 set asside !! good luck with that ! haha ! think the roof leaks a little !

Basically.
Most of you, are bellends.
Squatting isn't about having fun and causing a nuisance.
We squat because we don't have a roof over out heads.
What's so wrong with going with our natural instinct and surviving?
But yeah, £750,000.
You're gonna need at least three or four times more than that. (:

postoffice_squatter wrote:
I have been living in the Post Office for just over a year now and have read the article and some of the comments, although typically of many articles printed in The Argus, the comments section is trolled by many narrow-minded people who really have no idea how life is for anyone but themselves, and consider this the 'right' and 'proper' way to be. I am certainly not a 'middle class brat' at the age of 32 I have been squatting for approximately 12 years and in that time I have, save for 19 days never claimed housing benefit. Whilst I agree that for some, the creation of new jobs is a good thing, since they are tied to paying their mortgages and the extortionate rents charged by landlords in Brighton, I agree with the first comment wholeheartedly in that what is not needed is another restaurant in Brighton, there are many smaller businesses of this nature in Brighton who would suffer directly as a result of the presence of yet another huge chain opening up in the centre of town. It is apparent to me that in recent years Brighton has started to become a lot like other highly-commercialize d towns and as a result there now seems to be something of a lout-culture, people coming from out-of-town to spend their wages here who have little regard for the town or those who want to live here and contribute to the town itself and the people who live here rather than simply its economy and the back pockets of those who 'support' it, and of course themselves. Do we really need another place for large groups to congregate before hitting the town and getting **** and abusive/violent on West Street to the resident population. This building is absolutely huge and yes, it could and should create new jobs, for local workers to convert it into affordable council housing rather than supporting the bank balances of fat cats who aren't even from the town let alone this country. How about keeping it in the 'family'? Why does everything have to be about money? I despise the people who ignorantly cry 'get a f***ing job' when clearly there are not enough jobs to go round because anyone who is working needs the highest-paid job with the longest hours they can find in order to pay for their comparatively (to that of a squatter, for example) lavish lifestyles not to mention their rent costs of around £1000 a month for a livable-in sized property. Personally I would rather be a volunteer in a project which is for people, not for profit. Having looked over the plans on the council's website, I see there is no provision outlined by TGI Fridays whatsoever to develop the larger part of the building which they have no intention of using. Above the proposed resturant area (ground floor at the front of the building and the basement) is an area which could be converted into at least 15-20 flats, not to mention the area to the rear of the post office where I currently live which could likely be converted into a similar number of dwellings, so it seems they have no interest in making a social contribution to the community. For anyone who is interested, there is no running water and no drainage, as the copper and lead pipes were stolen by previous occupants, along with the copper electrical cables. I had to acquire 60 metres of electrical cable just to get a few lights up here and an internet connection on the go. The first time I came to this building a year ago was was at the request of a friend to get some lights and plug sockets working for the people who remained after the metals had been stolen. I ended up moving in and getting a few things working and continue to improve the space inside as I can afford. It's no life of luxury without sanitation but given some lengths of piping, and the appropriate fixtures, it wouldn't take me too long to get a toilet, shower and kitchen area on the go. I moved away from the other part of the building where I originally lived, largely inhabited by junkies as I don't want to be around that filthy drug which has taken away so many good as well as bad people. I'll stay here as long as I am able because I don't want to contribute to the fucktarded concept of capitalism which most people seem to lap up despite the inevitable end results including need, greed, corruption, inflation and pollution. Since the to-be-left-vacant portions of the building are earmarked by the council for residential use, there would be no need to apply for planning permission to use those areas as such and it would be perfectly possible for would-be squatters to become part of a housing co-operative to lease the rest of the building from its owners. Maybe this is an occupation I should think about pursuing... PS MP Mike Weatherly should kindly die. I have no time or respect for any member of a party who evade democracy (ie the passing of the criminalization of squatting in residential buildings despite 90+ % of public and professional opinions being against such act) not to mention wanting to scrap the Human Rights Act. Whatever next?

So you haven't claimed any housing benefit!!! why would you have claimed any when you've been squatting for 12 years and therefore paid £0 rent? I can only assume that you've also not paid any Council Tax or even electricity you've managed to wire up, do you actually contribute anything to society other than the odd bit of voluntary work you choose to do?
I know it's not a luxury life you squatters lead but if you went through the proper channels that the rest of us go through maybe you could start in a hostel or something, stay warm, be able to wash and smell nice, get a job if you haven't got one and eventually get your own place whether that be a small bedsit if that’s all you can afford or whatever is within your means...but oh no that would mean having to work, pay taxes, pay rent, pay electricity/gas/wate
r just like the rest of us!!! I know you don't all choose to be homeless but there are options.

What I don't contribute to the world is pollution, I live an as menial and frugal life I can and we all should because the resources we burn today are what will not be available for future generations.

I'm studying computer game programming in C++ paid for with what little money I can manage to get together through any means.

I have approached the council several times but have been told that I am no more vulnerable than any other homeless person and that they would not help me.

I also approached BHT who said they would not help me with housing as I have a dog. My only option is to either squat or privately rent (another avenue I have explored with no success as there are very few landlords prepared to accept a tenant on benefits with a dog)

There are many council properties which are still empty, one of which I squatted in about a year ago, and housed about 10 other homeless people. The building is still empty, and thanks to Mike Weatherly cannot be used by squatters as somewhere to live. The council said they were moving a family in when we were evicted, which was clearly a lie, Eve Hitchens. I have a friend who works for the council who says they simply don't have the money to develop / refurbish the empty properties.

The problem is that there are too many greedy people who want to exploit those who have little or nothing for themselves as it is so they can live comfortably. The I'm alright, Jack attitude is slowly killing us all.

I would gladly pay a FAIR rent or mortgage to the council for a decent place to live, but I will not be victimized by a glutinous bas*ard who only seeks to exploit me.

I do manage to stay warm and eat well, I don't have a drug problem (though I would probably be offered housing if I lied and said I did have a drug problem, maybe I should get one - see the vicious circle here - I guess if there were no drug dealers to keep selling their drugs and keeping people hooked then there wouldn't be a problem, but then again the police would all be out of jobs.

Too much red tape and greed. This country and the attitudes of most of its inhabitants are beyond repair.

So many judgements and so little mutual respect and, if not understanding, at least an attempt at seeing the other persons' point of view. Like it or not it all comes down to this, it is your fellow human being you will ultimately rely on.

A huge mortgage/bank account will not pick you up when you fall down in the road any more than a smug self satisfaction at a carbon neutral footprint will ensure you are protected from the vagaries of fortune.