Sussex Police morale at all time low (From The Argus)

It is hardly surprising! The role of a Police Officer nowadays must be considered a hazardous career with the daily threat of violence or the worry of being sued by a disgruntled member of the public. All for a very average salary! However, they do a smashing job in my opinion.

"Policing is not something you do, it is something you are" The main issue is that police officers feel betrayed in that they signed up to their terms and conditions for 30 years service, only for those terms to be ripped up. Their life plans have suddenly had to change. It is understood that other workers are having to make sacrifices but with no industrial rights the police feel isolated. Unlike many workers they contribute a large percentage 11-12% of their salary for their "gold plated pension" ....OK trolls - your turn.

Nev will sort it 'arht!

It all went horribly wrong from the moment it changed from
a) policing by the consent of the people
b)a policeman or women being able to use their discretion

to
a)top down policing by direction of the government
b)target driven policing

When the public see no visibility of officers on the street and have a general perception of lawlessness and anti-social behaviour in our town centre both day and night, see no action taken against trespassers in our public spaces and don't feel safe in their own homes, but are then recipients of punitive penalties by anonymous officers for minor traffic offences it erodes public support and confidence that the police are capable of doing their jobs of upholding law and order, and are just "going for the easy option".

Unfortunately it now appears the police themselves don't feel capable of upholding either the law or public order.

Perhaps its time for the streets of Brighton to be flooded with foot & bike patrols.Chicago PD effectively policed their G8 conference using police in shorts & shirts on bikes, gainst hundreds of protestors. So leave the cars at the station and meet the public.
Whatever happened to the broken windows vision of policing?

I'm absolutely shocked that:-

1. some people don't like their job
2. some people don't like their boss


Astonishing!! (you could always go go and get a job at Innocent Smoothie)

kopite_rob wrote:
It all went horribly wrong from the moment it changed from a) policing by the consent of the people b)a policeman or women being able to use their discretion to a)top down policing by direction of the government b)target driven policing When the public see no visibility of officers on the street and have a general perception of lawlessness and anti-social behaviour in our town centre both day and night, see no action taken against trespassers in our public spaces and don't feel safe in their own homes, but are then recipients of punitive penalties by anonymous officers for minor traffic offences it erodes public support and confidence that the police are capable of doing their jobs of upholding law and order, and are just "going for the easy option". Unfortunately it now appears the police themselves don't feel capable of upholding either the law or public order. Perhaps its time for the streets of Brighton to be flooded with foot & bike patrols.Chicago PD effectively policed their G8 conference using police in shorts & shirts on bikes, gainst hundreds of protestors. So leave the cars at the station and meet the public. Whatever happened to the broken windows vision of policing?

Good intelligent set of comments (rare on this site)
This is developing into a very worrying situation for all of us. We definitely need to see more police getting out of their cars or from behind their desks and interacting with the public they supposedly serve. This may also have the side effect of improving their morale.

Why worry! I'm sure our new PCC will sort it out!

BiggerH wrote:
I'm absolutely shocked that:- 1. some people don't like their job 2. some people don't like their boss Astonishing!! (you could always go go and get a job at Innocent Smoothie)

Good to see you could get time away from sitting under a bridge scaring billy goats.

Target driven policing has been the nail in the coffin of the police for a long time.

"Half of police officers and support staff in Sussex believe the force doesn’t care about them"....

Funnily enough that's probably what most of the general population thinks too!

risingphoenix wrote:
"Half of police officers and support staff in Sussex believe the force doesn’t care about them"....

Funnily enough that's probably what most of the general population thinks too!

Why do you think that? Have you asked most of the general population?

Thought not, now go home troll.

Just say 'No' to political correctness!

Just say 'No' to multiculturalism and diversity!

That way, the Police will protect law-abiding, tax-paying, hard-working citizens instead of obsessing about the 'rights' of drug dealers, burglars and criminal scum!

AmboGuy wrote:

risingphoenix wrote:
"Half of police officers and support staff in Sussex believe the force doesn’t care about them"....

Funnily enough that's probably what most of the general population thinks too!

Why do you think that? Have you asked most of the general population?

Thought not, now go home troll.

Have YOU asked most of the general population?

Thought not...

I guess that makes you the troll...

risingphoenix wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

risingphoenix wrote:
"Half of police officers and support staff in Sussex believe the force doesn’t care about them"....

Funnily enough that's probably what most of the general population thinks too!

Why do you think that? Have you asked most of the general population?

Thought not, now go home troll.

Have YOU asked most of the general population?

Thought not...

I guess that makes you the troll...

Of course I haven't you imbecile but then I'm not the one making stupid claims on the Internet.

Try to engage your brain think a bit before you click on the submit button next time.

AmboGuy wrote:

risingphoenix wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

risingphoenix wrote:
"Half of police officers and support staff in Sussex believe the force doesn’t care about them"....

Funnily enough that's probably what most of the general population thinks too!

Why do you think that? Have you asked most of the general population?

Thought not, now go home troll.

Have YOU asked most of the general population?

Thought not...

I guess that makes you the troll...

Of course I haven't you imbecile but then I'm not the one making stupid claims on the Internet.

Try to engage your brain think a bit before you click on the submit button next time.

First rule in identifying a troll...

Watch out for the originator of the first insults, as it shows a total failure to put forward a reasonable argument...

I guess that sucks for you ambo...

Along with teachers, doctors, nurses, immigration officers, customs officers, civil servants etc etc. Oh and everyone else!

risingphoenix wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

risingphoenix wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

risingphoenix wrote:
"Half of police officers and support staff in Sussex believe the force doesn’t care about them"....

Funnily enough that's probably what most of the general population thinks too!

Why do you think that? Have you asked most of the general population?

Thought not, now go home troll.

Have YOU asked most of the general population?

Thought not...

I guess that makes you the troll...

Of course I haven't you imbecile but then I'm not the one making stupid claims on the Internet.

Try to engage your brain think a bit before you click on the submit button next time.

First rule in identifying a troll...

Watch out for the originator of the first insults, as it shows a total failure to put forward a reasonable argument...

I guess that sucks for you ambo...

Second rule:

People make claims without being able to back up their 'fact'. Naturally this is done just to try and get a reaction off people.

Third rule is of course that theyll go under new usernames all the time. How long have you been on this website risingphoenix? Not long is it?

You're an obvious troll.

AmboGuy wrote:

risingphoenix wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

risingphoenix wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

risingphoenix wrote:
"Half of police officers and support staff in Sussex believe the force doesn’t care about them"....

Funnily enough that's probably what most of the general population thinks too!

Why do you think that? Have you asked most of the general population?

Thought not, now go home troll.

Have YOU asked most of the general population?

Thought not...

I guess that makes you the troll...

Of course I haven't you imbecile but then I'm not the one making stupid claims on the Internet.

Try to engage your brain think a bit before you click on the submit button next time.

First rule in identifying a troll...

Watch out for the originator of the first insults, as it shows a total failure to put forward a reasonable argument...

I guess that sucks for you ambo...

Second rule:

People make claims without being able to back up their 'fact'. Naturally this is done just to try and get a reaction off people.

Third rule is of course that theyll go under new usernames all the time. How long have you been on this website risingphoenix? Not long is it?

You're an obvious troll.

Questioning the questioner when you have nothing further to add eh amboguy?

Such an old troll trick...lol

So amboguy...You tell me

How long have I been on this site?

And you can of course list my alleged other 'usernames' which can be verified?

You're still the one who has answered a post with insults, so as I said...

You are the troll !

Oh Jesus it's like arguing with a 5 year old.

I can't believe I've broken the oldest rule and I've started to feed the troll by giving him the attention he so clearly craves.

Run along now son and get back to making your 'controversial' yet utterly hilarious posts about the police and why everyone hates them. They were a hoot.

Given that ;-

a troll is defined as someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response

I'm with you risingphoenix and agree Amboguy is the troll here through his inflammatory posts, not uncommon from him as many of his other posts will exemplify.

Thought the original post by risingphoenix was perfectly reasonable.

I suspect you are a complete waster, like the poster you choose to support/defend.

You would do well to 'jog on'...

Bye then!

Idontbelieveit1948 wrote:
Given that ;-

a troll is defined as someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response

I'm with you risingphoenix and agree Amboguy is the troll here through his inflammatory posts, not uncommon from him as many of his other posts will exemplify.

Thought the original post by risingphoenix was perfectly reasonable.

Hmm yet another brand new username appears tonight to defend his 'mate'.

Nice try though. It's quite sad that you're bothered enough to have 2 (at least) usernames on the website. Now get a life.

The Police need to adapt to a changing world, the same as everyone else and in my opinion "Ambumgay" is a troll!

Poor dears with their low morale. Perhaps if the local police spent more time doing a proper policing job, as they do in the rest of the UK, instead of pandering to all the vociferous minority groups, continually intimidating people who have the affrontary to have an opinion, that is perceived to cut across their poisonous Political correctness culture, they will not have quite so much time on their hands to feel fed up.

Spx wrote:
The Police need to adapt to a changing world, the same as everyone else and in my opinion "Ambumgay" is a troll!

Thanks for your your input Sparky. Good to see at least there's no racist or homophobic remarks this time.

Poor things!

Nobody forced them to join the police!

AmboGuy wrote:
Oh Jesus it's like arguing with a 5 year old.

I can't believe I've broken the oldest rule and I've started to feed the troll by giving him the attention he so clearly craves.

Run along now son and get back to making your 'controversial' yet utterly hilarious posts about the police and why everyone hates them. They were a hoot.

Oh dear...

So you even can't back up your wild accusations...lol

And given some of the other comments aimed at you, it appears that your vitriolic posts have led others to come to the same conclusion as I have...

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=wV4ZCU7tX
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Police used to go into policing to make a difference but these days are held back by bad management and budget cuts.The man in charge has recently retired probably getting a golden handshake for his budget cuts but in reality he leaves brighton and hove in a much worse state leaving areas like st james street no go areas like it was 10 yrs ago,not many cities can yobs go on a 2 hour spree burning out cars like in hove recently.Our night time clubs etc are manned by private security backed up by emergency response vehicles that look like police cars but are actually private the out going man in charge thus removed visable policing and relied on private security and cctv to police our streets at night.Shopkeepers only this week are doing something about shoplifting are the police don't treat it as a serious crime.On our streets at night you CANT depend on police in your time of need they are simply not on duty.Crime has gone down simply because we have no visable police on the beat to record it,im on the streets quite often at night as I love clubbing but our streets are NOT safe you would be very lucky to see visable police on the streets especially through the week in the early hours.Im not surprised with this report the outgoing man was concerned with ONE thing his BUDGET.The police on duty do a great job but I would not like to do their job if I didn't have backup if things got out of hand.The polices answer in Worthing was to close all but one night club and trying its best to close the one remaining.Its not the police on the beat we should be blaming its the people in charge of them,i for one hope the new man in charge puts police back on the beat at night and make sure they are well equipped including backup,remember a report last year in the argus that only 2 police were left on the strret in west street when clubs were getting out no wonder the police are not happy,i wish the outgoing man in charge of brighton police a happy retirement but am pleased he has gone as he was very poor at his job.

Where have the police gone, you no longer see them on foot or in patrol cars. You don't even see the pcso's any more. You occasionally see one flash past with its blue lights.

george smith wrote:
Where have the police gone, you no longer see them on foot or in patrol cars. You don't even see the pcso's any more. You occasionally see one flash past with its blue lights.

Paperwork and severe lack on numbers of Police means that they are constantly 'tied' to their desk.

To book someone in at custody and go through the interview and evidence process takes hours.

A lack of of numbers mean that as they each have an increasingly large area to cover cars are the best option for getting to somewhere quickly.

Unfortunately saddo internet trolls like risingphoenix (and all his other aliases) don't understand this very important fact.

spa301 wrote:

kopite_rob wrote:
It all went horribly wrong from the moment it changed from a) policing by the consent of the people b)a policeman or women being able to use their discretion to a)top down policing by direction of the government b)target driven policing When the public see no visibility of officers on the street and have a general perception of lawlessness and anti-social behaviour in our town centre both day and night, see no action taken against trespassers in our public spaces and don't feel safe in their own homes, but are then recipients of punitive penalties by anonymous officers for minor traffic offences it erodes public support and confidence that the police are capable of doing their jobs of upholding law and order, and are just "going for the easy option". Unfortunately it now appears the police themselves don't feel capable of upholding either the law or public order. Perhaps its time for the streets of Brighton to be flooded with foot & bike patrols.Chicago PD effectively policed their G8 conference using police in shorts & shirts on bikes, gainst hundreds of protestors. So leave the cars at the station and meet the public. Whatever happened to the broken windows vision of policing?

Good intelligent set of comments (rare on this site)
This is developing into a very worrying situation for all of us. We definitely need to see more police getting out of their cars or from behind their desks and interacting with the public they supposedly serve. This may also have the side effect of improving their morale.

ACPO (In my opinion) don't give a monkeys as long as their palms are well greased, also Cameron dosen't give two h'apperths either. His agenda is for police to be privatised so his bankster pals make a killing.

having just recently paid £130 to sussex plod for the return of my own stolen property that I went and found all by myself, I don't much care for them either.
Perhaps they should be better at their jobs before they burst into tears because no one likes them.