U-turn on new bedroom tax celebrated (From The Argus)

Shame he dont stop picking on single parants too

Why is it a shame? They don't write good innit.

Maybe I've got it wrong, but l can't see that they've done a u-turn

Well, a sort of u-turn is better then no u-turn at all. Foster parents are exempt and the parents of serving MOD personnel are exempt; both with certain qualifications but it is still better then a kick in the teeth. That is a starting point anyway ...

I'd like to see IDS sacked for what he's doing to disabled and sick people in this country AND the rest of this disgusting government that keep reducing benefits to the poorest people in the UK but still have a subsidised canteen and bars at the Houses of Parliament. Have they taken a pay cut NO they've given themselves an enormous pay rise, they are still ripping us all off with their expenses claims - they should be done for treason after caMORON promised to stop the tax loop holes that his own father used but he still hasn't - now that would bring an end to all the problems but the conservatives aren't into solving problems for the majority, they only work to make the rich, richer.

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
I'd like to see IDS sacked for what he's doing to disabled and sick people in this country AND the rest of this disgusting government that keep reducing benefits to the poorest people in the UK but still have a subsidised canteen and bars at the Houses of Parliament. Have they taken a pay cut NO they've given themselves an enormous pay rise, they are still ripping us all off with their expenses claims - they should be done for treason after caMORON promised to stop the tax loop holes that his own father used but he still hasn't - now that would bring an end to all the problems but the conservatives aren't into solving problems for the majority, they only work to make the rich, richer.

Interestingly, those well-known defenders of the poor, the Millibands have also worked the system - see below:

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/commentisfree/
2010/oct/09/ed-milib
and-journalists-in-g
lass-houses

http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/politics
/ed-miliband/9587363
/Millionaire-Miliban
d-challenged-again-o
ver-true-wealth.html

I'm not at all convinced that a reduction in benefit should be called a tax.

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
I'd like to see IDS sacked for what he's doing to disabled and sick people in this country AND the rest of this disgusting government that keep reducing benefits to the poorest people in the UK but still have a subsidised canteen and bars at the Houses of Parliament. Have they taken a pay cut NO they've given themselves an enormous pay rise, they are still ripping us all off with their expenses claims - they should be done for treason after caMORON promised to stop the tax loop holes that his own father used but he still hasn't - now that would bring an end to all the problems but the conservatives aren't into solving problems for the majority, they only work to make the rich, richer.

If you are moaning then we now that the underlying action is right.

Great news that we are cutting benefits...might even encourage people receiving them to go to work to actually earn a living!

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
I'd like to see IDS sacked for what he's doing to disabled and sick people in this country AND the rest of this disgusting government that keep reducing benefits to the poorest people in the UK but still have a subsidised canteen and bars at the Houses of Parliament. Have they taken a pay cut NO they've given themselves an enormous pay rise, they are still ripping us all off with their expenses claims - they should be done for treason after caMORON promised to stop the tax loop holes that his own father used but he still hasn't - now that would bring an end to all the problems but the conservatives aren't into solving problems for the majority, they only work to make the rich, richer.

If you are moaning then we now that the underlying action is right.

Great news that we are cutting benefits...might even encourage people receiving them to go to work to actually earn a living!

Great news that we are cutting benefits... One day you may have to rely on benefits to support your family & no matter how hard you have worked or how much you have paid in to support every one ells over the years will make a dam differents to this government or people just like you who seem to think people like use are just scroungers or lazy bums who dote want to work – well for one all you pillocks who have that attitude towards those on benefits not all of use can work duo to ill health or disability… I for one do not disagree that those on unemployment should have there benefits cut to encourage them they would be better off in work I would have welcomed it when I was able to work but punishing the ill and disabled is WRONG. I have worked most of my life; I have paid taxes, NI, now I’m being made to suffer for being ill and disabled… lets hope you never have to rely on benefits for ill health or disability!

This country cannot afford the massive amount that we pay out in benefits . I do believe if we manage to get those off of benefits who CAN work then there would be more for those who genuinely need it.

****-Biker wrote:
This country cannot afford the massive amount that we pay out in benefits . I do believe if we manage to get those off of benefits who CAN work then there would be more for those who genuinely need it.

What this country cannot afford are the tax loop holes, the tax dodges and the tax cuts for the rich.

mimseycal wrote:

****-Biker wrote: This country cannot afford the massive amount that we pay out in benefits . I do believe if we manage to get those off of benefits who CAN work then there would be more for those who genuinely need it.

What this country cannot afford are the tax loop holes, the tax dodges and the tax cuts for the rich.

Yes those as well

wippasnapper wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
I'd like to see IDS sacked for what he's doing to disabled and sick people in this country AND the rest of this disgusting government that keep reducing benefits to the poorest people in the UK but still have a subsidised canteen and bars at the Houses of Parliament. Have they taken a pay cut NO they've given themselves an enormous pay rise, they are still ripping us all off with their expenses claims - they should be done for treason after caMORON promised to stop the tax loop holes that his own father used but he still hasn't - now that would bring an end to all the problems but the conservatives aren't into solving problems for the majority, they only work to make the rich, richer.

If you are moaning then we now that the underlying action is right.

Great news that we are cutting benefits...might even encourage people receiving them to go to work to actually earn a living!

Great news that we are cutting benefits... One day you may have to rely on benefits to support your family & no matter how hard you have worked or how much you have paid in to support every one ells over the years will make a dam differents to this government or people just like you who seem to think people like use are just scroungers or lazy bums who dote want to work – well for one all you pillocks who have that attitude towards those on benefits not all of use can work duo to ill health or disability… I for one do not disagree that those on unemployment should have there benefits cut to encourage them they would be better off in work I would have welcomed it when I was able to work but punishing the ill and disabled is WRONG. I have worked most of my life; I have paid taxes, NI, now I’m being made to suffer for being ill and disabled… lets hope you never have to rely on benefits for ill health or disability!

The thing is...If we stop the masses claiming and relying on benefits then we can afford looking after those who really do need our support.

Additionally, what we could do is include a mechanism in the tax process where the first x% of tax aid gets allocated to buy medical insurance. That way those who put in, get to take out.

Simple really!

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

wippasnapper wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro


ng wrote:

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
I'd like to see IDS sacked for what he's doing to disabled and sick people in this country AND the rest of this disgusting government that keep reducing benefits to the poorest people in the UK but still have a subsidised canteen and bars at the Houses of Parliament. Have they taken a pay cut NO they've given themselves an enormous pay rise, they are still ripping us all off with their expenses claims - they should be done for treason after caMORON promised to stop the tax loop holes that his own father used but he still hasn't - now that would bring an end to all the problems but the conservatives aren't into solving problems for the majority, they only work to make the rich, richer.

If you are moaning then we now that the underlying action is right.

Great news that we are cutting benefits...might even encourage people receiving them to go to work to actually earn a living!

Great news that we are cutting benefits... One day you may have to rely on benefits to support your family & no matter how hard you have worked or how much you have paid in to support every one ells over the years will make a dam differents to this government or people just like you who seem to think people like use are just scroungers or lazy bums who dote want to work – well for one all you pillocks who have that attitude towards those on benefits not all of use can work duo to ill health or disability… I for one do not disagree that those on unemployment should have there benefits cut to encourage them they would be better off in work I would have welcomed it when I was able to work but punishing the ill and disabled is WRONG. I have worked most of my life; I have paid taxes, NI, now I’m being made to suffer for being ill and disabled… lets hope you never have to rely on benefits for ill health or disability!

The thing is...If we stop the masses claiming and relying on benefits then we can afford looking after those who really do need our support.

Additionally, what we could do is include a mechanism in the tax process where the first x% of tax aid gets allocated to buy medical insurance. That way those who put in, get to take out.

Simple really!

The words of a poem are ringing in my ears ... Good ol' Pastor Niemoller,

mimseycal wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:

wippasnapper wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro



ng wrote:

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
I'd like to see IDS sacked for what he's doing to disabled and sick people in this country AND the rest of this disgusting government that keep reducing benefits to the poorest people in the UK but still have a subsidised canteen and bars at the Houses of Parliament. Have they taken a pay cut NO they've given themselves an enormous pay rise, they are still ripping us all off with their expenses claims - they should be done for treason after caMORON promised to stop the tax loop holes that his own father used but he still hasn't - now that would bring an end to all the problems but the conservatives aren't into solving problems for the majority, they only work to make the rich, richer.

If you are moaning then we now that the underlying action is right.

Great news that we are cutting benefits...might even encourage people receiving them to go to work to actually earn a living!

Great news that we are cutting benefits... One day you may have to rely on benefits to support your family & no matter how hard you have worked or how much you have paid in to support every one ells over the years will make a dam differents to this government or people just like you who seem to think people like use are just scroungers or lazy bums who dote want to work – well for one all you pillocks who have that attitude towards those on benefits not all of use can work duo to ill health or disability… I for one do not disagree that those on unemployment should have there benefits cut to encourage them they would be better off in work I would have welcomed it when I was able to work but punishing the ill and disabled is WRONG. I have worked most of my life; I have paid taxes, NI, now I’m being made to suffer for being ill and disabled… lets hope you never have to rely on benefits for ill health or disability!

The thing is...If we stop the masses claiming and relying on benefits then we can afford looking after those who really do need our support.

Additionally, what we could do is include a mechanism in the tax process where the first x% of tax aid gets allocated to buy medical insurance. That way those who put in, get to take out.

Simple really!

The words of a poem are ringing in my ears ... Good ol' Pastor Niemoller,

Sadly we can't rely on scholars, theorists and pastors to make the right decisions to lead us out of the mess that Brown, Blair and their inept chums got us in to.

mimseycal wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:

wippasnapper wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:

getThisCoalitionOut wrote: I'd like to see IDS sacked for what he's doing to disabled and sick people in this country AND the rest of this disgusting government that keep reducing benefits to the poorest people in the UK but still have a subsidised canteen and bars at the Houses of Parliament. Have they taken a pay cut NO they've given themselves an enormous pay rise, they are still ripping us all off with their expenses claims - they should be done for treason after caMORON promised to stop the tax loop holes that his own father used but he still hasn't - now that would bring an end to all the problems but the conservatives aren't into solving problems for the majority, they only work to make the rich, richer.

If you are moaning then we now that the underlying action is right. Great news that we are cutting benefits...might even encourage people receiving them to go to work to actually earn a living!

Great news that we are cutting benefits... One day you may have to rely on benefits to support your family & no matter how hard you have worked or how much you have paid in to support every one ells over the years will make a dam differents to this government or people just like you who seem to think people like use are just scroungers or lazy bums who dote want to work – well for one all you pillocks who have that attitude towards those on benefits not all of use can work duo to ill health or disability… I for one do not disagree that those on unemployment should have there benefits cut to encourage them they would be better off in work I would have welcomed it when I was able to work but punishing the ill and disabled is WRONG. I have worked most of my life; I have paid taxes, NI, now I’m being made to suffer for being ill and disabled… lets hope you never have to rely on benefits for ill health or disability!

The thing is...If we stop the masses claiming and relying on benefits then we can afford looking after those who really do need our support. Additionally, what we could do is include a mechanism in the tax process where the first x% of tax aid gets allocated to buy medical insurance. That way those who put in, get to take out. Simple really!

The words of a poem are ringing in my ears ... Good ol' Pastor Niemoller,

And what does an anti Nazi theologist have to do with this story?