Sussex hospitals face £30m cuts (From The Argus)

As recently reported the Trust is one of the worst performing in the Country.Surely it needs more Quality Staff to bring it up to Standard also with the proposed Redvelopment there would be the need for a bigger budget not cutbacks.Health should be a priority getting sick people back into the workforce asap would help.If you need Hospitalisation there shouldn't be a concern aboutt Budgets

CAMERON said the NHS is safe in his hands ,well its obvious its not,frontline services are being cut,and the NHS is quietly getting privatised.The RSCH does its best with out of date buildings but cuts are hitting frontline services.Just down the road SOUTHLANDS hospital has virtually been quietly shutdown,i recently had a scan there and the heating was off as it was the only dept left in that area of the hospital.

Stop paying for fatties, smokers & drunks.

so funny...turning off lights and computers when not in use? You don't do this already?. Who is in charge of computer admin. Do they not set the powersaving settings on all computers and lock them? Truly laughable.

2010: "I'll cut the deficit, not the NHS"
2013: Govt borrowing up, NHS cut

Do a Labour borrow today.
Pay back tomorrow!
Bankrupt the day after!

they could start by reducing the number of vastly overpaid 'admin' staff, and paying nurses what they are really worth. well paid and respected staff will always work better, and go that little bit further. also, i fully believe that there should be no set targets in the NHS, just get on and make people better. instead of having to treat 20 people per hour, with possibly poor treatment, i would rather see them treat 8-10 per hour properly! none of the emergency services should have budgets to adhere to, but simply do the job. if managed properly, no cuts would be needed anywhere.

Off we go again, more hospital cuts, unrealistic budget, too many people in very senior jobs doing little of the work for too much money. I agree how do we stick to budgets with ageing population, growing population and people presenting to a/e with minor problems that could be managed elsewhere.The list goes on. But there are areas where money could be saved.Unfortunately and contrary to some beliefs the NHS is full of hardworking underpaid staff who will be the ones who suffer again when cutbacks kick in and get criticised again and again by members of the public for not providing the right care. The NHS is on its knees I suspect if Mr Cameron needed hosp care he would get it quickly, effectively and probably privately. Where on earth will all the qualifed experienced staff be when the hospital expands and needs more staff !

davyboy wrote:
they could start by reducing the number of vastly overpaid 'admin' staff, and paying nurses what they are really worth. well paid and respected staff will always work better, and go that little bit further. also, i fully believe that there should be no set targets in the NHS, just get on and make people better. instead of having to treat 20 people per hour, with possibly poor treatment, i would rather see them treat 8-10 per hour properly! none of the emergency services should have budgets to adhere to, but simply do the job. if managed properly, no cuts would be needed anywhere.

VASTLY OVERPAID ADMIN STAFF...now there a phrase one doesn't hear often.
Being one of the VASTLY OVERPAID ADMIN STAFF within the NHS, I can say, with all certainty, you are talking out of your backside.
Next time you wish to make such an ill informed, factually incorrect statement, I suggest you do it in one of the red tops where they pay good money for such tripe.

ThorpePark wrote:

davyboy wrote:
they could start by reducing the number of vastly overpaid 'admin' staff, and paying nurses what they are really worth. well paid and respected staff will always work better, and go that little bit further. also, i fully believe that there should be no set targets in the NHS, just get on and make people better. instead of having to treat 20 people per hour, with possibly poor treatment, i would rather see them treat 8-10 per hour properly! none of the emergency services should have budgets to adhere to, but simply do the job. if managed properly, no cuts would be needed anywhere.

VASTLY OVERPAID ADMIN STAFF...now there a phrase one doesn't hear often.
Being one of the VASTLY OVERPAID ADMIN STAFF within the NHS, I can say, with all certainty, you are talking out of your backside.
Next time you wish to make such an ill informed, factually incorrect statement, I suggest you do it in one of the red tops where they pay good money for such tripe.

In affect these so called senior staff many on six figure salaries are nothing more than (office wallahs) working a 35 hour work week.

Sitting in their comfortable chairs in their luxury offices heated and air-conditioned offices to deal with the stress of British weather.

Personal assistants next to their office at every beck and call ready to organise their life, organise holidays in the Caribbean, These Plutocrats drive home home and back to to the office in their plush cars frequently attend very important conferences staying in luxury 4 and 5 star hotels and checking out the latest Michelin restaurants. Finally retiring at an early age on a truly fabulous government pension.

Are these very expensive employees productive? No!

Are these expensive employees practical? No!

Are these expensive employees indispensable? Absolutely not!

Are these expensive employees dispensable? Absolutely yes!

Will anybody miss these expensive employees? No.

Will the Hospital or institution with 50% less management and admin staff be happier and more efficient? yes!

Central government could save tens of Billions by applying this criteria across all government institutions and Local and County councils.

Value for money is the name of the game, we need radical solutions for institutional problems, here's one! Does Cameron and Osborne have the cojones to do it? Probably Not!

Prognosis: UK on road to hell and accelerating!

The only Prime Minister to have cojones is now too old to come back. God bless her!

rogeruk wrote:

ThorpePark wrote:

davyboy wrote:
they could start by reducing the number of vastly overpaid 'admin' staff, and paying nurses what they are really worth. well paid and respected staff will always work better, and go that little bit further. also, i fully believe that there should be no set targets in the NHS, just get on and make people better. instead of having to treat 20 people per hour, with possibly poor treatment, i would rather see them treat 8-10 per hour properly! none of the emergency services should have budgets to adhere to, but simply do the job. if managed properly, no cuts would be needed anywhere.

VASTLY OVERPAID ADMIN STAFF...now there a phrase one doesn't hear often.
Being one of the VASTLY OVERPAID ADMIN STAFF within the NHS, I can say, with all certainty, you are talking out of your backside.
Next time you wish to make such an ill informed, factually incorrect statement, I suggest you do it in one of the red tops where they pay good money for such tripe.

In affect these so called senior staff many on six figure salaries are nothing more than (office wallahs) working a 35 hour work week.

Sitting in their comfortable chairs in their luxury offices heated and air-conditioned offices to deal with the stress of British weather.

Personal assistants next to their office at every beck and call ready to organise their life, organise holidays in the Caribbean, These Plutocrats drive home home and back to to the office in their plush cars frequently attend very important conferences staying in luxury 4 and 5 star hotels and checking out the latest Michelin restaurants. Finally retiring at an early age on a truly fabulous government pension.

Are these very expensive employees productive? No!

Are these expensive employees practical? No!

Are these expensive employees indispensable? Absolutely not!

Are these expensive employees dispensable? Absolutely yes!

Will anybody miss these expensive employees? No.

Will the Hospital or institution with 50% less management and admin staff be happier and more efficient? yes!

Central government could save tens of Billions by applying this criteria across all government institutions and Local and County councils.

Value for money is the name of the game, we need radical solutions for institutional problems, here's one! Does Cameron and Osborne have the cojones to do it? Probably Not!

Prognosis: UK on road to hell and accelerating!

You genuinely believe that all there is to running the NHS is doctoring and nursing?

You think patients appear in the right place at the right time by luck? And that medical supplies arrive by fairy dust? I suppose meals are supplied on the off chance and cleaning and linen and uniforms is all handled by the medical staff during their tea breaks and they do building maintenance during lunch time.

fredaj wrote:

rogeruk wrote:

ThorpePark wrote:

davyboy wrote:
they could start by reducing the number of vastly overpaid 'admin' staff, and paying nurses what they are really worth. well paid and respected staff will always work better, and go that little bit further. also, i fully believe that there should be no set targets in the NHS, just get on and make people better. instead of having to treat 20 people per hour, with possibly poor treatment, i would rather see them treat 8-10 per hour properly! none of the emergency services should have budgets to adhere to, but simply do the job. if managed properly, no cuts would be needed anywhere.

VASTLY OVERPAID ADMIN STAFF...now there a phrase one doesn't hear often.
Being one of the VASTLY OVERPAID ADMIN STAFF within the NHS, I can say, with all certainty, you are talking out of your backside.
Next time you wish to make such an ill informed, factually incorrect statement, I suggest you do it in one of the red tops where they pay good money for such tripe.

In affect these so called senior staff many on six figure salaries are nothing more than (office wallahs) working a 35 hour work week.

Sitting in their comfortable chairs in their luxury offices heated and air-conditioned offices to deal with the stress of British weather.

Personal assistants next to their office at every beck and call ready to organise their life, organise holidays in the Caribbean, These Plutocrats drive home home and back to to the office in their plush cars frequently attend very important conferences staying in luxury 4 and 5 star hotels and checking out the latest Michelin restaurants. Finally retiring at an early age on a truly fabulous government pension.

Are these very expensive employees productive? No!

Are these expensive employees practical? No!

Are these expensive employees indispensable? Absolutely not!

Are these expensive employees dispensable? Absolutely yes!

Will anybody miss these expensive employees? No.

Will the Hospital or institution with 50% less management and admin staff be happier and more efficient? yes!

Central government could save tens of Billions by applying this criteria across all government institutions and Local and County councils.

Value for money is the name of the game, we need radical solutions for institutional problems, here's one! Does Cameron and Osborne have the cojones to do it? Probably Not!

Prognosis: UK on road to hell and accelerating!

You genuinely believe that all there is to running the NHS is doctoring and nursing?

You think patients appear in the right place at the right time by luck? And that medical supplies arrive by fairy dust? I suppose meals are supplied on the off chance and cleaning and linen and uniforms is all handled by the medical staff during their tea breaks and they do building maintenance during lunch time.

I didn't say that so don't put words in my mouth. Yes logistics are important but they can be organised better and cheaper.

Management and admin are very expensive and non productive, if compared to manufacturing, salesmen create value logistics spends money and costs, can you not see the parallel?

All institutions are top heavy, therein lies the problem. Institutional managers are vastly overpaid. A cull of 50% would be a start.

Its always the same' so called management looks after itself and closes ranks, they reduce staff at the sharp end thus exacerbating the problem.

Have a little more intelligence if that's possible think a little more cerebral before spouting of simplistic preconceived comments and assumptions. Or at best if you are one of those 'on the gravy train' be honest and say so!

Matthew Kershaw is the governments hatchet man so this should come as no surprise. He was responsible for the closure of services across South London. What else could be expected when he turned up in Brighton?

FC wrote:
Stop paying for fatties, smokers & drunks.

And that would solve the problems.

People who pollute their lungs with tobacco smoke,fill their bodies with saturated fats and abuse alcohol should be outside the NHS as they are self inflicting harm on themselves yet expecting others to pick up the tab for the damage they do willfully.

If boozers,smokers and junk food eaters were denied NHS treatment the system wouldnt be at breaking point.

Rocker wrote:

FC wrote:
Stop paying for fatties, smokers & drunks.

And that would solve the problems.

People who pollute their lungs with tobacco smoke,fill their bodies with saturated fats and abuse alcohol should be outside the NHS as they are self inflicting harm on themselves yet expecting others to pick up the tab for the damage they do willfully.

If boozers,smokers and junk food eaters were denied NHS treatment the system wouldnt be at breaking point.

Are we all to be denied something we enjoy? The boozers are some of our biggest taxpayers! If the revenue was lost from alcohol the government would find from somewhere else. The NHS needs a thorough overhaul. This is the second decade of the twenty first century not the nineteen forties when the health service was setup! Money has to be allocated more wisely, YES-this will mean cuts to certain areas but you cannot ignore the real world. The state tends to run things badly. You must introduce discipline!

Sick, twisted and evil.


That is anyone who is Tory or Lib Dem, or who supports them - you cant bury your heads in the sand anymore, you KNOW what they are doing and have done to this country.

If you defend them, you are as bad as them, shame on you. People are DYING thanks to you and your party. We cant ALL afford to go private like you middle and upper class snobs.

David BN3 wrote:
Matthew Kershaw is the governments hatchet man so this should come as no surprise. He was responsible for the closure of services across South London. What else could be expected when he turned up in Brighton?

Quite. The man responsible for "downgrading" (ie effectively shutting) Lewishams Accident and Emergency and maternity, despite widespread opposition from clinical staff and local residents. Many of his arguments for closure were fundamentally flawed. How much longer do you think the emergency/maternity departments at PRH will remain open....?

davyboy wrote:
they could start by reducing the number of vastly overpaid 'admin' staff, and paying nurses what they are really worth. well paid and respected staff will always work better, and go that little bit further. also, i fully believe that there should be no set targets in the NHS, just get on and make people better. instead of having to treat 20 people per hour, with possibly poor treatment, i would rather see them treat 8-10 per hour properly! none of the emergency services should have budgets to adhere to, but simply do the job. if managed properly, no cuts would be needed anywhere.

Any evidence there are vastly overpaid admin staff in the NHS? Any ideas who ensures it is "properly managed" if you get rid of them? Any idea who it was who brought management and targets into the NHS? Any idea what you're talking about?

Sussex jim wrote:
The only Prime Minister to have cojones is now too old to come back. God bless her!

You are aware that it was actually her who introduced management, targets, etc to the NHS?

It always amuses me when people say Thatcher would solve all our problems, in complete ignorance of the fact that it was she that caused them in the first place.