Albion directors meet as Poyet rumours grow (From The Argus)

VegasSeagull wrote:
Good morning Hovite. I can't get my head around all this, it all seems crazy. We are in with a good chance of the playoffs. We have our spanking new training facility opening for next season. We have players that are getting better with each game. There will be a huge influx of young lads for the new acadamy, host families are being sought for those lads. So much is happening at the club and we are told that Gus might go to READING!!. Why?

VegasSeagull wrote:
Good morning Hovite.

I can't get my head around all this, it all seems crazy.

We are in with a good chance of the playoffs. We have our spanking new training facility opening for next season. We have players that are getting better with each game.
There will be a huge influx of young lads for the new acadamy, host families are being sought for those lads.

So much is happening at the club and we are told that Gus might go to READING!!.

Why?

VegasSeagull wrote:
Do you guys mean personal money for Poyet or big money for transfers next year?

VegasSeagull wrote:
Do you guys mean personal money for Poyet or big money for transfers next year?

VegasSeagull wrote:
Good morning Hovite.

I can't get my head around all this, it all seems crazy.

We are in with a good chance of the playoffs. We have our spanking new training facility opening for next season. We have players that are getting better with each game.
There will be a huge influx of young lads for the new acadamy, host families are being sought for those lads.

So much is happening at the club and we are told that Gus might go to READING!!.

Why?

VegasSeagull wrote:
The odd thing is that Reading didn't have money to spend in the winter transfer window, why didn't the Russian put his hand in his pocket when it could have done some good for the club.

bruce beckett wrote:
Arrived at work here in NYC to find that this story has not moved on since I read the last post 12 hours ago.

On the one hand, I'm delighted that Gus's move to Reading has not been confirmed. On the other, I am concerned that the Albion have not moved to quash speculation.

Is Gus using this as leverage for a bigger and better deal or is he serious about wanting to join the Royals, which would definitely be a sideways move IMO?

All we do know right now is that the timing of this sucks and would put a serious dent in our play-off hopes.

Tommy11 wrote:
This whole thing is madness....In truth, I hate Reading and I can't believe that they may poach ANOTHER manager off us. Lets not forget Steve Coppell in 2003. I think there a C**p club with rubbish fans, but as comments above - it may be about the £££££

If he does go, I think we should just be sensible and introduce stability. As MT will go with Gus, I think we should put in Calderon as manager with Oatway as assitant until end of the season. Everyone respects Calderon and he would be great with the Spanish speaking boys, who are in truth, a big big aspect of a squead.

Then at the end of the season, we assess.

People are suggesting Hoddell?? are you all mad?? how will people like Hod motivate people like Ulloa and Lopez..he won't have a clue. If we want to keep the squad, we do need foreign methods. Zola end of season maybe.

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
VegasSeagull,
I think the answer to your question is "both".In my paper today(Daily Mail)
which is usually accurate when it comes to sports reporting, Gus wants 24 hours to mull it over.The Reading Chairman is offering to pay up Gus's contract remainder (£2.5M)
with a higher salary and a mammoth transfer budget.
The Albion have already given permission to Reading for Gus to talk.Sources close to the deal say the job is Poyet's to turn down.Gus's advisers were in talks yesterday to discuss his personal terms.It sounds to me almost like a "done deal" if this report is correct.
My own view is WHY? when there are so many advantages for Gus to stay put which so many people have already posted on this site.

Hoarder12345444 wrote:

Tommy11 wrote:
This whole thing is madness....In truth, I hate Reading and I can't believe that they may poach ANOTHER manager off us. Lets not forget Steve Coppell in 2003. I think there a C**p club with rubbish fans, but as comments above - it may be about the £££££

If he does go, I think we should just be sensible and introduce stability. As MT will go with Gus, I think we should put in Calderon as manager with Oatway as assitant until end of the season. Everyone respects Calderon and he would be great with the Spanish speaking boys, who are in truth, a big big aspect of a squead.

Then at the end of the season, we assess.

People are suggesting Hoddell?? are you all mad?? how will people like Hod motivate people like Ulloa and Lopez..he won't have a clue. If we want to keep the squad, we do need foreign methods. Zola end of season maybe.

Agreed, Reading have records of appalling attendances, just like Wigan do. I don't understand this really, they have a huge catchment area, like Brighton with Sussex and Kent. Reading have Berkshire and areas in London and Hamphire too, yet their gates are pathetic for a so called big club in the PL.


Perhaps folks in Berkshire prefer other persuits than "working class" football. I don't know. Tells you a lot about Sussex though.......UTA....

...Sussex by the sea.......love it.

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
I don't get all the panic? Lets keep this in perspective.

Granted Gus has done great things for us and I'd prefer he stays, BUT........

He has really not proved himself at the top level and won't until he shows he can win promotion. He has only a Lge One title on his track record thus far.

He's spoken more in the past about his desires to go elsewhere than he has about his desire and commitment to stay long term at Brighton.

The fact that he even speaks to Reading, if that's actually what happens, should speak volumes to you all about loyalty and long term vision.

There are plenty of potential replacements with stronger managerial resumes than Gus and the one thing I have the upmost faith in is that Tony Bloom is the real genius here and he knows exactly what type of leader the team and club needs, and I'm sure he would make a wise choice.

If Bloom were the one going I'd be panicking but for Gus......... What will be will be...... We have a plan and we will continue to grow......maybe Gus has taken it to step one and that's his lot.

Not worried at all, in fact I hope he now goes, I think the right guy wouldn't even be involved in all this diversionary tit tat, it can't be good for the team at this crucial stage of the season.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Do you guys mean personal money for Poyet or big money for transfers next year?

bruce beckett wrote:
I hope you're right, Hovite, but I suspect Gus is not bluffing on this occasion.

And for all those who are not bothered whether Gus stays or goes, just remember how far we've come under his guidance.

Not only that, think of all the players he has enticed to the club and may not be so keen to stay long-term if he is gone. Players like TK, Burno, Bridge, Lopez, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa etc. Where would be without them?

This could mean major upheaval for the club in the summer.

bruce beckett wrote:
I hope you're right, Hovite, but I suspect Gus is not bluffing on this occasion. And for all those who are not bothered whether Gus stays or goes, just remember how far we've come under his guidance. Not only that, think of all the players he has enticed to the club and may not be so keen to stay long-term if he is gone. Players like TK, Burno, Bridge, Lopez, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa etc. Where would be without them? This could mean major upheaval for the club in the summer.

Hovite wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
I hope you're right, Hovite, but I suspect Gus is not bluffing on this occasion.

And for all those who are not bothered whether Gus stays or goes, just remember how far we've come under his guidance.

Not only that, think of all the players he has enticed to the club and may not be so keen to stay long-term if he is gone. Players like TK, Burno, Bridge, Lopez, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa etc. Where would be without them?

This could mean major upheaval for the club in the summer.

It doesn't make sense on any level.

I have a massive list of reasons why he wouldn't go but it's too long and I don't want to waste my time.

The list of why he would go is much shorter. Apart from money Why would he go?

This question is to everyone who believes he will and I want a list of why he would.

VegasSeagull wrote:
The odd thing is that Reading didn't have money to spend in the winter transfer window, why didn't the Russian put his hand in his pocket when it could have done some good for the club.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Good morning Hovite.

I can't get my head around all this, it all seems crazy.

We are in with a good chance of the playoffs. We have our spanking new training facility opening for next season. We have players that are getting better with each game.
There will be a huge influx of young lads for the new acadamy, host families are being sought for those lads.

So much is happening at the club and we are told that Gus might go to READING!!.

Why?

Hoarder12345444 wrote:

Hovite wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
I hope you're right, Hovite, but I suspect Gus is not bluffing on this occasion.

And for all those who are not bothered whether Gus stays or goes, just remember how far we've come under his guidance.

Not only that, think of all the players he has enticed to the club and may not be so keen to stay long-term if he is gone. Players like TK, Burno, Bridge, Lopez, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa etc. Where would be without them?

This could mean major upheaval for the club in the summer.

It doesn't make sense on any level.

I have a massive list of reasons why he wouldn't go but it's too long and I don't want to waste my time.

The list of why he would go is much shorter. Apart from money Why would he go?

This question is to everyone who believes he will and I want a list of why he would.

Yep, there may be many reasons why he should or would stay, but the massive game changer......the big bet........is money. If Gus gets offered much more than he is on now, and is promised a big transfer budget, he will go, and so will the Spanish speaking players at Brighton too. Tanno will go too, he has followed him everywhere at coaching level. If Gus does go, which I hope he doesn't it could potentially not only ruin our promotion push but rip the heart out the club that has seen doom and gloom for years and is now tasting the good times finally! Please dont let it stop and dont leave Gus.........think what you can achieve with Brighton in the PL!!

ladicius wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: Good morning Hovite. I can't get my head around all this, it all seems crazy. We are in with a good chance of the playoffs. We have our spanking new training facility opening for next season. We have players that are getting better with each game. There will be a huge influx of young lads for the new acadamy, host families are being sought for those lads. So much is happening at the club and we are told that Gus might go to READING!!. Why?

You say host families we have been hosting students for 13 years do you have any more details on this

VegasSeagull wrote:
It would seem that some on here think it's all down to personal financial gain for Gus, wages he just can't say no to, I don't buy that.

From the first day that Gus arrived, to the last day on his ocntract, will have ensured that Gus has become a millionair.
Gus is young by managerial standards and will have plenty more years to put money in the bank. A new contract with Brighton would see him earn even more money. Take Brighton to the prem and his new contract would be even bigger. In time he will move to a bigger prem club if he keeps producing, yet more money for his bank account.

Today Gus doesn't need to grab what's being dangled in front of him, (personal wages,) because by the end of his ocntract with Brighton he will have banked enough money to never need to work again.

When money in your bank is not needed, (Sir Alex Ferguson) it becomes all about writing history, and Gus can do that with Brighton, in fact he has already started.

How much is enough, how many millions does one need to feel secure, would 10 million do it. Gus can make that over the period of two contracts with Brighton.

Personal gain can quickly become personal greed, I don't think Gus is greedy.
Surely the goal for Gus is to write his name in the history books, to go down as one of the best. Take Brighton up, keep us there and make us progress, that is the stuff of history books. Go to Reading and do what, look over your shoulder at the Russian owner, wonder if like other Russian, and foreign owners, you are just one defeat away from being sacked.

Go for history Gus, don't go for the quick buck, you just don't need it that badly.

bruce beckett wrote:
Just looking at Sky Bet's next Reading manager market and favourite Gus Poyet has been cut to 1/5 during the afternoon. Nigel Adkins remains second in the betting at 7/2.

Money still pouring in on Gus to take the Reading job. Someone's going to get their fingers burned. Hope it's not us!

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
I don't get all the panic? Lets keep this in perspective.

Granted Gus has done great things for us and I'd prefer he stays, BUT........

He has really not proved himself at the top level and won't until he shows he can win promotion. He has only a Lge One title on his track record thus far.

He's spoken more in the past about his desires to go elsewhere than he has about his desire and commitment to stay long term at Brighton.

The fact that he even speaks to Reading, if that's actually what happens, should speak volumes to you all about loyalty and long term vision.

There are plenty of potential replacements with stronger managerial resumes than Gus and the one thing I have the upmost faith in is that Tony Bloom is the real genius here and he knows exactly what type of leader the team and club needs, and I'm sure he would make a wise choice.

If Bloom were the one going I'd be panicking but for Gus......... What will be will be...... We have a plan and we will continue to grow......maybe Gus has taken it to step one and that's his lot.

Not worried at all, in fact I hope he now goes, I think the right guy wouldn't even be involved in all this diversionary tit tat, it can't be good for the team at this crucial stage of the season.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Well at least Gus asked for 24 hours to consider his decision rather than just jumping ship. That request tells me that it's not personal wages that is the deciding factor, and maybe no factor at all.

This potential move is all about ambition and whether or not Gus feels that his goals can be met with Brighton.

Monies for transfers is the key, transfers and contract renewals. If Gus, 'knows,' that there will not be enough money to not only negotiate new contracts for key players but also to bring in the desired players to improve the squad, then he might well go.

Sensible people make plans based on the worst scenario, for us that would be not getting promoted. Gus is going to need the board to stump up some big numbers to keep the best of our squad, and they will have to find money for new players. To stand still next season would not be good enough for Gus, his personal ambitions require more than that.

The Brighton board ultimately will decide where Gus is by the end of today.

Major Bloodboil wrote:
According to the Independent online 2 hours ago it looks as though it is a done deal - see http://www.independe

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The reasons given have all been rehearsed in the various posts on here before.
I hope we have a replacement ready to take over the reigns.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Do you guys mean personal money for Poyet or big money for transfers next year?

Notters_Seagull wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: Well at least Gus asked for 24 hours to consider his decision rather than just jumping ship. That request tells me that it's not personal wages that is the deciding factor, and maybe no factor at all. This potential move is all about ambition and whether or not Gus feels that his goals can be met with Brighton. Monies for transfers is the key, transfers and contract renewals. If Gus, 'knows,' that there will not be enough money to not only negotiate new contracts for key players but also to bring in the desired players to improve the squad, then he might well go. Sensible people make plans based on the worst scenario, for us that would be not getting promoted. Gus is going to need the board to stump up some big numbers to keep the best of our squad, and they will have to find money for new players. To stand still next season would not be good enough for Gus, his personal ambitions require more than that. The Brighton board ultimately will decide where Gus is by the end of today.

Where are you getting this 24 hours thing from?!

VegasSeagull wrote:
The odd thing is that Reading didn't have money to spend in the winter transfer window, why didn't the Russian put his hand in his pocket when it could have done some good for the club.

ballantrrae wrote:
I keep an eye on the Football NewsNow Brighton website. It is clear from all the coverage on various Football websites like Sky Sports, and in the Local and National press that this 'Rumour' has substance.
It is evident that the decision as to whether this rumour is to turn into reality is down to Poyet.
If he goes one wonders what other factor other than money (increased salary & bigger budget in the short term) has arisen to cause Poyet to leave. Personally I hope he stays. I had thought that Poyet had a longterm view for BHA and I still trust he does.
I feel we will know within the next 24 hours.
If he does leave then the action that Bloom, Bailey and Co take will tell us alot about the club.
It will be important to move quickly but not without due thought to replace him.
We would need a Manager that the players respect and can work with. A similar type of appointment to the one that Swansee made when they got Laudrup in. Someone the Spanish contingent would respond to.
Any new manager will need to secure the services of a number of our players and sign at least one back up striker for the final eight games. I would like to think also that whoever joins has a longterm strategy in mind.
I noticed that the Mirror mentioned Karl Robinson as a possible replacement (unproven at either Champioship or Premiership level).
Various posters have put forward Adkins and Di Matteo. Certainly Di Matteo would meet most criteria if he wanted to come.
Thoughts anyone like Wesrstander17, SMF20, Captain Haddock, MBTS, Fairweathersupporter

, Alfie T, Yogi, Alan G Skinner, Jonathan Mouette, Vince and other regular posters ?

pablobrowno wrote:
If things between Gus and the club have become strained over money then what better way for Gus to negotiate than having been offered another job. I'm sure if our board agree to release some more funds (and take a risk) he would stay. The problem is it a risk worth taking? Surely non-one is more important than the stability of our club, we know only too well from the past!

The important thing is that if Gus does go we get someone of similar stature in. There will be a queue for this job for sure. Players like Tk will need someone they can respect, with the right experience either as player or manager. Perhaps Martinez fancies a new challenge and a warmer climate!!!

SMF20 wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:
I keep an eye on the Football NewsNow Brighton website. It is clear from all the coverage on various Football websites like Sky Sports, and in the Local and National press that this 'Rumour' has substance.
It is evident that the decision as to whether this rumour is to turn into reality is down to Poyet.
If he goes one wonders what other factor other than money (increased salary & bigger budget in the short term) has arisen to cause Poyet to leave. Personally I hope he stays. I had thought that Poyet had a longterm view for BHA and I still trust he does.
I feel we will know within the next 24 hours.
If he does leave then the action that Bloom, Bailey and Co take will tell us alot about the club.
It will be important to move quickly but not without due thought to replace him.
We would need a Manager that the players respect and can work with. A similar type of appointment to the one that Swansee made when they got Laudrup in. Someone the Spanish contingent would respond to.
Any new manager will need to secure the services of a number of our players and sign at least one back up striker for the final eight games. I would like to think also that whoever joins has a longterm strategy in mind.
I noticed that the Mirror mentioned Karl Robinson as a possible replacement (unproven at either Champioship or Premiership level).
Various posters have put forward Adkins and Di Matteo. Certainly Di Matteo would meet most criteria if he wanted to come.
Thoughts anyone like Wesrstander17, SMF20, Captain Haddock, MBTS, Fairweathersupporter


, Alfie T, Yogi, Alan G Skinner, Jonathan Mouette, Vince and other regular posters ?

Hello my friend,

I'm inclined to agree with most things you've said.
I've pretty much said the same on another thread.

Weirdly I've started to get excited about a potential new Manager.
Don't get me wrong, I think Gus has done a great job and can take a lot of credit for getting us to where we are today but I can't help feeling that he has burnt a few bridges along the way and that this agreeing to talk to Reading has maybe pushed a few board members and even fans too far.

As stated, I'd like Gus to stay but if he doesn't then like many others have said, it would be good to see RDM on board, I think we has the presence, hunger and charisma we need and would command the respect of both players within our club and those a little further a field.

I'm putting something new out there now and this is just my opinion but assuming that Tano goes with Gus I'd really like to see both Gordon Greer and Inigo Calderon given player/coach roles alongside RDM as I firmly believe that both have very bright futures in the game when they eventually stop playing.

I echo most others thoughts and sadly think that the biggest motivation for GP moving on would be money, both personally and in terms of budget.

Long term is all about Brighton though

Uta

rolivan wrote:

SMF20 wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:
I keep an eye on the Football NewsNow Brighton website. It is clear from all the coverage on various Football websites like Sky Sports, and in the Local and National press that this 'Rumour' has substance.
It is evident that the decision as to whether this rumour is to turn into reality is down to Poyet.
If he goes one wonders what other factor other than money (increased salary & bigger budget in the short term) has arisen to cause Poyet to leave. Personally I hope he stays. I had thought that Poyet had a longterm view for BHA and I still trust he does.
I feel we will know within the next 24 hours.
If he does leave then the action that Bloom, Bailey and Co take will tell us alot about the club.
It will be important to move quickly but not without due thought to replace him.
We would need a Manager that the players respect and can work with. A similar type of appointment to the one that Swansee made when they got Laudrup in. Someone the Spanish contingent would respond to.
Any new manager will need to secure the services of a number of our players and sign at least one back up striker for the final eight games. I would like to think also that whoever joins has a longterm strategy in mind.
I noticed that the Mirror mentioned Karl Robinson as a possible replacement (unproven at either Champioship or Premiership level).
Various posters have put forward Adkins and Di Matteo. Certainly Di Matteo would meet most criteria if he wanted to come.
Thoughts anyone like Wesrstander17, SMF20, Captain Haddock, MBTS, Fairweathersupporter



, Alfie T, Yogi, Alan G Skinner, Jonathan Mouette, Vince and other regular posters ?

Hello my friend,

I'm inclined to agree with most things you've said.
I've pretty much said the same on another thread.

Weirdly I've started to get excited about a potential new Manager.
Don't get me wrong, I think Gus has done a great job and can take a lot of credit for getting us to where we are today but I can't help feeling that he has burnt a few bridges along the way and that this agreeing to talk to Reading has maybe pushed a few board members and even fans too far.

As stated, I'd like Gus to stay but if he doesn't then like many others have said, it would be good to see RDM on board, I think we has the presence, hunger and charisma we need and would command the respect of both players within our club and those a little further a field.

I'm putting something new out there now and this is just my opinion but assuming that Tano goes with Gus I'd really like to see both Gordon Greer and Inigo Calderon given player/coach roles alongside RDM as I firmly believe that both have very bright futures in the game when they eventually stop playing.

I echo most others thoughts and sadly think that the biggest motivation for GP moving on would be money, both personally and in terms of budget.

Long term is all about Brighton though

Uta

I think you will find that it was agreed that if a Premiership came calling Gus would be allowed to speak to them like he did with Wolves

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
The longer the delay, the greater the chance Gus is Reading bound. Tick, tock, tick, tock...

weststandupperlacost
earmy wrote:
for what its worth, if Gus departs these are my managers in order of preference 1. Di Matteo 2. Laurent Blanc 3. Karl Robinson 4. Nigel Adkins 5. ME

JUPILER wrote:
I know i am getting old but,tuesday I read Gus pledges new striker,thursday he needs 24 hours to think about the Reading offer,his advisors are talking with the Reading people,then I read Gus is not even in the country.
Err what am I not understanding.

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
Interesting that about 50% of the fans on one of the Reading forums would prefer Adkins to GP. He would certainly be cheaper.

mark by the sea wrote:
Sorry but 2 million is nothing if we not only lose Gus, but more than likely half the Spanish contingent too, bridge would probably go to reading, and bridcutt as well, that does not leave alot .... Other than Barnes elabd and painter! The compensation is nothing worth talking about!

Hovite wrote:
Peter Ward has been spotted at the Amex

ballantrrae wrote:
I keep an eye on the Football NewsNow Brighton website. It is clear from all the coverage on various Football websites like Sky Sports, and in the Local and National press that this 'Rumour' has substance.
It is evident that the decision as to whether this rumour is to turn into reality is down to Poyet.
If he goes one wonders what other factor other than money (increased salary & bigger budget in the short term) has arisen to cause Poyet to leave. Personally I hope he stays. I had thought that Poyet had a longterm view for BHA and I still trust he does.
I feel we will know within the next 24 hours.
If he does leave then the action that Bloom, Bailey and Co take will tell us alot about the club.
It will be important to move quickly but not without due thought to replace him.
We would need a Manager that the players respect and can work with. A similar type of appointment to the one that Swansee made when they got Laudrup in. Someone the Spanish contingent would respond to.
Any new manager will need to secure the services of a number of our players and sign at least one back up striker for the final eight games. I would like to think also that whoever joins has a longterm strategy in mind.
I noticed that the Mirror mentioned Karl Robinson as a possible replacement (unproven at either Champioship or Premiership level).
Various posters have put forward Adkins and Di Matteo. Certainly Di Matteo would meet most criteria if he wanted to come.
Thoughts anyone like Wesrstander17, SMF20, Captain Haddock, MBTS, Fairweathersupporter

, Alfie T, Yogi, Alan G Skinner, Jonathan Mouette, Vince and other regular posters ?

mark by the sea wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Peter Ward has been spotted at the Amex

Why?

mark by the sea wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Peter Ward has been spotted at the Amex

Why?

Major Bloodboil wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:
Sorry but 2 million is nothing if we not only lose Gus, but more than likely half the Spanish contingent too, bridge would probably go to reading, and bridcutt as well, that does not leave alot .... Other than Barnes elabd and painter! The compensation is nothing worth talking about!

Now that would be a tragedy if that were to happen and one from which it would take some time to recover from.

mark by the sea wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Peter Ward has been spotted at the Amex

Why?

Hovite wrote:
Peter Ward has been spotted at the Amex

rolivan wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Peter Ward has been spotted at the Amex

Why?

He is attending the Mullers Show whenever that is

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Peter Ward has been spotted at the Amex

Actually, I preferred him in stripes - blue and white stripes.

weststandupperlacost
earmy wrote:

rolivan wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Peter Ward has been spotted at the Amex

Why?

He is attending the Mullers Show whenever that is

Maybe Mullery and Ward are the new Clough and Taylor???

Neville wrote:
According to todays Mail Poyet has asked for 24 hrs to think it over, how come none of this is being reported locally.Very poor Argus this time.

Bish May Turn wrote:
The longer this drags on the more likely it is that he will go. If he goes then its the end of our promotion hope this season, the upheaval will no doubt have an adverse affect on the team.

Will have to start again next season with a new manager in charge, Eddie Howe anyone?

Major Bloodboil wrote:
I'm in two minds. When I consider how much Gus has brought us on in such a short time, I take my hat off to him as he has truly done a fantastic job.
That said, when I look at some of his negative/defensive team selections (and his insistance on using just the one striker - and some time no strikers) which have not worked and which have driven me mad, I think that a manager with a proven record could have done a better with the playing staff we currently have. So I think what I am saying is that I don't mind what happens as long as we get a proven manager if Gus does go.

weststandupperlacost
earmy wrote:
for what its worth, if Gus departs these are my managers in order of preference 1. Di Matteo
2. Laurent Blanc
3. Karl Robinson
4. Nigel Adkins
5. ME

Hovite wrote:
Peter Ward has been spotted at the Amex

Hovite wrote:
Peter Ward has been spotted at the Amex

ballantrrae wrote:
I keep an eye on the Football NewsNow Brighton website. It is clear from all the coverage on various Football websites like Sky Sports, and in the Local and National press that this 'Rumour' has substance.
It is evident that the decision as to whether this rumour is to turn into reality is down to Poyet.
If he goes one wonders what other factor other than money (increased salary & bigger budget in the short term) has arisen to cause Poyet to leave. Personally I hope he stays. I had thought that Poyet had a longterm view for BHA and I still trust he does.
I feel we will know within the next 24 hours.
If he does leave then the action that Bloom, Bailey and Co take will tell us alot about the club.
It will be important to move quickly but not without due thought to replace him.
We would need a Manager that the players respect and can work with. A similar type of appointment to the one that Swansee made when they got Laudrup in. Someone the Spanish contingent would respond to.
Any new manager will need to secure the services of a number of our players and sign at least one back up striker for the final eight games. I would like to think also that whoever joins has a longterm strategy in mind.
I noticed that the Mirror mentioned Karl Robinson as a possible replacement (unproven at either Champioship or Premiership level).
Various posters have put forward Adkins and Di Matteo. Certainly Di Matteo would meet most criteria if he wanted to come.
Thoughts anyone like Wesrstander17, SMF20, Captain Haddock, MBTS, Fairweathersupporter

, Alfie T, Yogi, Alan G Skinner, Jonathan Mouette, Vince and other regular posters ?

Neville wrote:
attn. Old Scrote
All of the national papers cant be wrong
unless you just prefer to hear if and when the Argus let us know.

bruce beckett wrote:
The local press have been abysmal, even the twitter accounts of Andy Naylor, Brian Owen, Johnny Cantor and Paul Hayward have been silent for the first time.

So true. Biggest story of the season and the most recent Tweets are about a 2-0 win for the Development Squad and Anton Rodgers joining Exeter on loan. Provincial journalism has gone to pot, ravaged by falling circulation and cost-cutting exercises.

dave from bexill wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
The longer the delay, the greater the chance Gus is Reading bound. Tick, tock, tick, tock...

I poo, pooed this story initially, but I think you make a good point Willie. But we'll just have to wait a bit longer to find out

Hovite wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Peter Ward has been spotted at the Amex

Why?

I wasn't there to ask him

pte wrote:

weststandupperlacost

earmy wrote:
for what its worth, if Gus departs these are my managers in order of preference 1. Di Matteo
2. Laurent Blanc
3. Karl Robinson
4. Nigel Adkins
5. ME

What about Sean O'Driscoll?

Or if the Board don't want to rush things have Coppel or di Matteo just to the end of the season

The king is dead, long live the king

Major Bloodboil wrote:
The Mail may be, but what about the Independent?

"Premier League strugglers Reading are close to appointing Brighton's Gus Poyet as their manager. There is a willingness on both sides to get the deal done and only the finer details of the Uruguayan's contract need to be finalised ahead of an announcement before the end of the week.

Poyet has now met the Reading owner Anton Zingarevich and the Russian has approved the appointment, which has been driven by the director of football Nicky Hammond"

Therefore I can't see Gus staying.

VegasSeagull wrote:

weststandupperlacost

earmy wrote:
for what its worth, if Gus departs these are my managers in order of preference 1. Di Matteo 2. Laurent Blanc 3. Karl Robinson 4. Nigel Adkins 5. ME

I htink I would rather have you than Adkins.

Capello would be my choice, poetic justice too.

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Peter Ward has been spotted at the Amex

Actually, I preferred him in stripes - blue and white stripes.

Hovite wrote:
Di Matteo was pants for WBA and only got the Chelsea job by default.

Even when Chelsea became Euro Champs, he looked bemused it because they played rubbish.

Drogba won that not Di Matteo.

He's the last person I'd want here.

bruce beckett wrote:
Maybe, or perhaps they can't shoot the there job prospects down,
Imagine the club saying we won't give interviews to naylor or Owen? What would there chances of keeping a job at the argus be?

That's happened to many a local journalist, MBTS. It's a thin line between reporting the news and not falling out with the club, but surely someone should be saying something?

Neville wrote:
Another thought on the financial aspect,if and a big if Brighton were to reach the Championhip play offs this is worth 90m (last season) to the winner,surely some of that money would be earmarked for players etc. Has anyone thought of that at all?

ballantrrae wrote:
I keep an eye on the Football NewsNow Brighton website. It is clear from all the coverage on various Football websites like Sky Sports, and in the Local and National press that this 'Rumour' has substance.
It is evident that the decision as to whether this rumour is to turn into reality is down to Poyet.
If he goes one wonders what other factor other than money (increased salary & bigger budget in the short term) has arisen to cause Poyet to leave. Personally I hope he stays. I had thought that Poyet had a longterm view for BHA and I still trust he does.
I feel we will know within the next 24 hours.
If he does leave then the action that Bloom, Bailey and Co take will tell us alot about the club.
It will be important to move quickly but not without due thought to replace him.
We would need a Manager that the players respect and can work with. A similar type of appointment to the one that Swansee made when they got Laudrup in. Someone the Spanish contingent would respond to.
Any new manager will need to secure the services of a number of our players and sign at least one back up striker for the final eight games. I would like to think also that whoever joins has a longterm strategy in mind.
I noticed that the Mirror mentioned Karl Robinson as a possible replacement (unproven at either Champioship or Premiership level).
Various posters have put forward Adkins and Di Matteo. Certainly Di Matteo would meet most criteria if he wanted to come.
Thoughts anyone like Wesrstander17, SMF20, Captain Haddock, MBTS, Fairweathersupporter

, Alfie T, Yogi, Alan G Skinner, Jonathan Mouette, Vince and other regular posters ?

Claude Back wrote:

Major Bloodboil wrote:
The Mail may be, but what about the Independent?

"Premier League strugglers Reading are close to appointing Brighton's Gus Poyet as their manager. There is a willingness on both sides to get the deal done and only the finer details of the Uruguayan's contract need to be finalised ahead of an announcement before the end of the week.

Poyet has now met the Reading owner Anton Zingarevich and the Russian has approved the appointment, which has been driven by the director of football Nicky Hammond"

Therefore I can't see Gus staying.

Major, I agree.
It is obvious that the rumours are true otherwise there would have been an immediate denial.
This proves that Gus is negotiating and if he gets what he wants....he is gone. That's all there is to say.

wiseman of hove wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Di Matteo was pants for WBA and only got the Chelsea job by default.

Even when Chelsea became Euro Champs, he looked bemused it because they played rubbish.

Drogba won that not Di Matteo.

He's the last person I'd want here.

I probably would not put it as strongly as you Hovite but I do share your firm doubts about Di Matteo. Not convinced by him at all.

Major Bloodboil wrote:

Claude Back wrote:

Major Bloodboil wrote:
The Mail may be, but what about the Independent?

"Premier League strugglers Reading are close to appointing Brighton's Gus Poyet as their manager. There is a willingness on both sides to get the deal done and only the finer details of the Uruguayan's contract need to be finalised ahead of an announcement before the end of the week.

Poyet has now met the Reading owner Anton Zingarevich and the Russian has approved the appointment, which has been driven by the director of football Nicky Hammond"

Therefore I can't see Gus staying.

Major, I agree.
It is obvious that the rumours are true otherwise there would have been an immediate denial.
This proves that Gus is negotiating and if he gets what he wants....he is gone. That's all there is to say.

You would not have thought it Claude looking at the number of posts on here. When all is said and done there is a lot more said than done!
The suspense continues as do the posts. How many are needed for the record Hovite?

Claude Back wrote:
Look, how many more times?
It is obvious that the rumours are true otherwise there would have been an immediate denial.
This proves that Gus is negotiating and if he gets what he wants....he is gone. That's all there is to say.

(Apart from helping Hovite achieve the record posts.)

mikeygit wrote:
I think the worst story in the Argus is that The Board is meeting---first natural reaction is that they are meeting because of the current Poyet situation--but no it is just a meeting of the Board that was arrange some time ago---poor journalism IMO--just adds fuel to the fire and a pointless article!!

Hovite wrote:

Claude Back wrote:
Look, how many more times?
It is obvious that the rumours are true otherwise there would have been an immediate denial.
This proves that Gus is negotiating and if he gets what he wants....he is gone. That's all there is to say.

(Apart from helping Hovite achieve the record posts.)

Good job

Claude Back wrote:

Hovite wrote:

Claude Back wrote:
Look, how many more times?
It is obvious that the rumours are true otherwise there would have been an immediate denial.
This proves that Gus is negotiating and if he gets what he wants....he is gone. That's all there is to say.

(Apart from helping Hovite achieve the record posts.)

Good job

Thank you.

(You now reply, 'You're welcome.')

Hovite wrote:

Claude Back wrote:

Hovite wrote:

Claude Back wrote:
Look, how many more times?
It is obvious that the rumours are true otherwise there would have been an immediate denial.
This proves that Gus is negotiating and if he gets what he wants....he is gone. That's all there is to say.

(Apart from helping Hovite achieve the record posts.)

Good job

Thank you.

(You now reply, 'You're welcome.')

You're welcome

Claude Back wrote:

Hovite wrote:

Claude Back wrote:

Hovite wrote:

Claude Back wrote:
Look, how many more times?
It is obvious that the rumours are true otherwise there would have been an immediate denial.
This proves that Gus is negotiating and if he gets what he wants....he is gone. That's all there is to say.

(Apart from helping Hovite achieve the record posts.)

Good job

Thank you.

(You now reply, 'You're welcome.')

You're welcome

You're very kind.

(How many posts to go like this, do you reckon, before everyone flames us?)

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Where's Mr I'm-100%-right-all-t

he-time Freeloaders when you need him for the inside story..?
Anyone else realised the coincidence - that both he and Poyet go missing at the same time..?!

Oh er missus.

Claude Back wrote:

Hovite wrote:

Claude Back wrote:

Hovite wrote:

Claude Back wrote:
Look, how many more times?
It is obvious that the rumours are true otherwise there would have been an immediate denial.
This proves that Gus is negotiating and if he gets what he wants....he is gone. That's all there is to say.

(Apart from helping Hovite achieve the record posts.)

Good job

Thank you.

(You now reply, 'You're welcome.')

You're welcome

You're very kind.

(How many posts to go like this, do you reckon, before everyone flames us?)

ballantrrae wrote:
I keep an eye on the Football NewsNow Brighton website. It is clear from all the coverage on various Football websites like Sky Sports, and in the Local and National press that this 'Rumour' has substance.
It is evident that the decision as to whether this rumour is to turn into reality is down to Poyet.
If he goes one wonders what other factor other than money (increased salary & bigger budget in the short term) has arisen to cause Poyet to leave. Personally I hope he stays. I had thought that Poyet had a longterm view for BHA and I still trust he does.
I feel we will know within the next 24 hours.
If he does leave then the action that Bloom, Bailey and Co take will tell us alot about the club.
It will be important to move quickly but not without due thought to replace him.
We would need a Manager that the players respect and can work with. A similar type of appointment to the one that Swansee made when they got Laudrup in. Someone the Spanish contingent would respond to.
Any new manager will need to secure the services of a number of our players and sign at least one back up striker for the final eight games. I would like to think also that whoever joins has a longterm strategy in mind.
I noticed that the Mirror mentioned Karl Robinson as a possible replacement (unproven at either Champioship or Premiership level).
Various posters have put forward Adkins and Di Matteo. Certainly Di Matteo would meet most criteria if he wanted to come.
Thoughts anyone like Wesrstander17, SMF20, Captain Haddock, MBTS, Fairweathersupporter

, Alfie T, Yogi, Alan G Skinner, Jonathan Mouette, Vince and other regular posters ?

Hovite wrote:
Di Matteo was pants for WBA and only got the Chelsea job by default.

Even when Chelsea became Euro Champs, he looked bemused it because they played rubbish.

Drogba won that not Di Matteo.

He's the last person I'd want here.

WestStander17 wrote:
Having said all that, I hope this is all a waste of time and Gus stays!!!

Jonathan Mouette wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Di Matteo was pants for WBA and only got the Chelsea job by default.

Even when Chelsea became Euro Champs, he looked bemused it because they played rubbish.

Drogba won that not Di Matteo.

He's the last person I'd want here.

Hi Hovite,
So, in the interest of achieving a new postings record, what was the default that meant RDM was appointed at Chelski. Why would any club appoint a guy who was, in your opinion, pants at WBA...? Would you appoint Fat Sam by default - whatever that is... Oooops, Sorry I shouldn't have written that before the 9pm watershed - children all over Argusland will be hiding behind sofas and having nightmares at the very thought of it. Some grown-ups too, probably. Anyway, I shall await your anti-RDM arguments with baited breath. Incidentally, the shout for Roberto Martinez, mentioned earlier isn't bad at all, especially if he can bring DiSantos with him... Over to you Hovite... I bet your keyboard is red hot by now....

WisdomSpeaks wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
The odd thing is that Reading didn't have money to spend in the winter transfer window, why didn't the Russian put his hand in his pocket when it could have done some good for the club.

Vegas your previous question of 'Why' and it not making sense is understandable and the answer, Ibelieve is clear.

Internally the club have become slightly disillusioned with Gus and he with the club.

If you read all his quotes there are many veiled criticisms about the general running of the club not just the limited resources available to him.

That creates negative energy within the system and the fact that permission was so readily given for Reading to approach him indicates the above to be the case. It has been a divorce waiting to happen and now, I believe the marriage is irreconcilable.

When he leaves the most important thing is to have a really cool head, experienced, respected and stable of character to calm down what could be a volatile situation. Perhaps Steve Coppell could be a good choice to take us up in the remaining weeks.

Whatever happens I feel it will be resolved in the next 24 hours.

I can hardly wait to see the good that's coming out of all of this!

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
I don't get all the panic? Lets keep this in perspective.

Granted Gus has done great things for us and I'd prefer he stays, BUT........

He has really not proved himself at the top level and won't until he shows he can win promotion. He has only a Lge One title on his track record thus far.

He's spoken more in the past about his desires to go elsewhere than he has about his desire and commitment to stay long term at Brighton.

The fact that he even speaks to Reading, if that's actually what happens, should speak volumes to you all about loyalty and long term vision.

There are plenty of potential replacements with stronger managerial resumes than Gus and the one thing I have the upmost faith in is that Tony Bloom is the real genius here and he knows exactly what type of leader the team and club needs, and I'm sure he would make a wise choice.

If Bloom were the one going I'd be panicking but for Gus......... What will be will be...... We have a plan and we will continue to grow......maybe Gus has taken it to step one and that's his lot.

Not worried at all, in fact I hope he now goes, I think the right guy wouldn't even be involved in all this diversionary tit tat, it can't be good for the team at this crucial stage of the season.

Neville wrote:
Old Scrote

Well spotted just seen that myself,good news

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
178 comments on this, many more than on other stories that really matter, sums up the state of the country in 2013.