‘Deportation would be a death sentence’ for Brighton man

Lugman Onikosi who faces certain death if deported to Nigeria

Lugman Onikosi who faces certain death if deported to Nigeria

First published in News

A former University of Sussex student who has the chronic liver condition hepatitis B is facing deportation to Nigeria, where the lack of medical treatment will almost certainly lead to his death.

To maintain his health, Luqman Onikosi must undergo a number of procedures, including a liver biopsy every six months.

But no treatment for the condition, or monitoring, is available in Nigeria.

Luqman has explored all available possibilities for treatment in Nigeria, but to no avail.

In October 2011 Luqman’s brother Kolade died of the condition and five months later his other brother suffered the same fate – again due to chronic hepatitis B.

Both brothers were residents of Nigeria and a petition targeted at Theresa May demanding a third brother doesn’t follow the same path has secured more than 1,500 signatures and has attracted the services of a solicitor to work on a voluntary basis.

Luqman said: “I believe it is barbaric to send a third member of my family – me – to my death.

“I find it very dehumanising and humiliating that I have to justify and defend my existence as an equal human being.

“I have to fight for my right to life, by discussing the death of my two brothers from the same chronic liver condition, just to highlight how serious the situation is.”

Luqman arrived in the UK in 2007 on a study visa and in 2009, while studying international relations and economics at the University of Sussex, he was diagnosed with the condition.

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Despite his failing health, he made a valuable contribution within the university and the Brighton and Hove community.

This included co-founding the Hear Afrika Society and leading several high-profile campaigns on issues such as racism, the environmental crisis and the economic rights of international students.

In the wider community, he was part of the Brighton and Hove Climate Connection and Brighton and Hove Black History groups.

After graduating, Luqman worked with the Nigerian High Commission in London before his ill health forced him to resign.

He is now setting up his own registered company as an education consultant and overseas student recruitment agent.

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6:13pm Wed 17 Apr 13

Alan G Skinner says...

While this chaps prognosis is unfortunate to say he least, this country is NOT the NHS of the world. The truth is this treatment is available in Nigeria, but at a cost, which he may or not be able to afford. The stark reality is that this country cannot afford to pay for it, our NHS is on it's knees, largely due to incompotance, but also because there are too many people using it who have absolutely no entitlement to do so! I'm afraid if you give in to every story that tugs on the heart strings, this country will be even more swamped with "health tourists". Incidentally, I wonder if the Home Office are aware that he's setting up an "overseas student recruitment agency". I doubt it if he faces imminent "deportation". It also begs the question that if he is to be "deported"' what serious criminal offence has he committed? Do they actually mean he is to be removed, there is a significant difference.
While this chaps prognosis is unfortunate to say he least, this country is NOT the NHS of the world. The truth is this treatment is available in Nigeria, but at a cost, which he may or not be able to afford. The stark reality is that this country cannot afford to pay for it, our NHS is on it's knees, largely due to incompotance, but also because there are too many people using it who have absolutely no entitlement to do so! I'm afraid if you give in to every story that tugs on the heart strings, this country will be even more swamped with "health tourists". Incidentally, I wonder if the Home Office are aware that he's setting up an "overseas student recruitment agency". I doubt it if he faces imminent "deportation". It also begs the question that if he is to be "deported"' what serious criminal offence has he committed? Do they actually mean he is to be removed, there is a significant difference. Alan G Skinner
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6:30pm Wed 17 Apr 13

Minty1971 says...

Alan G Skinner wrote:
While this chaps prognosis is unfortunate to say he least, this country is NOT the NHS of the world. The truth is this treatment is available in Nigeria, but at a cost, which he may or not be able to afford. The stark reality is that this country cannot afford to pay for it, our NHS is on it's knees, largely due to incompotance, but also because there are too many people using it who have absolutely no entitlement to do so! I'm afraid if you give in to every story that tugs on the heart strings, this country will be even more swamped with "health tourists". Incidentally, I wonder if the Home Office are aware that he's setting up an "overseas student recruitment agency". I doubt it if he faces imminent "deportation". It also begs the question that if he is to be "deported"' what serious criminal offence has he committed? Do they actually mean he is to be removed, there is a significant difference.
Concur
[quote][p][bold]Alan G Skinner[/bold] wrote: While this chaps prognosis is unfortunate to say he least, this country is NOT the NHS of the world. The truth is this treatment is available in Nigeria, but at a cost, which he may or not be able to afford. The stark reality is that this country cannot afford to pay for it, our NHS is on it's knees, largely due to incompotance, but also because there are too many people using it who have absolutely no entitlement to do so! I'm afraid if you give in to every story that tugs on the heart strings, this country will be even more swamped with "health tourists". Incidentally, I wonder if the Home Office are aware that he's setting up an "overseas student recruitment agency". I doubt it if he faces imminent "deportation". It also begs the question that if he is to be "deported"' what serious criminal offence has he committed? Do they actually mean he is to be removed, there is a significant difference.[/p][/quote]Concur Minty1971
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6:39pm Wed 17 Apr 13

Surely not! says...

Minty1971 wrote:
Alan G Skinner wrote:
While this chaps prognosis is unfortunate to say he least, this country is NOT the NHS of the world. The truth is this treatment is available in Nigeria, but at a cost, which he may or not be able to afford. The stark reality is that this country cannot afford to pay for it, our NHS is on it's knees, largely due to incompotance, but also because there are too many people using it who have absolutely no entitlement to do so! I'm afraid if you give in to every story that tugs on the heart strings, this country will be even more swamped with "health tourists". Incidentally, I wonder if the Home Office are aware that he's setting up an "overseas student recruitment agency". I doubt it if he faces imminent "deportation". It also begs the question that if he is to be "deported"' what serious criminal offence has he committed? Do they actually mean he is to be removed, there is a significant difference.
Concur
This entire country is on its knees mostly due to the fact that we have socialist goverments. Goverments which have consistently subsidised and bailed out corporations and businesses.
[quote][p][bold]Minty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan G Skinner[/bold] wrote: While this chaps prognosis is unfortunate to say he least, this country is NOT the NHS of the world. The truth is this treatment is available in Nigeria, but at a cost, which he may or not be able to afford. The stark reality is that this country cannot afford to pay for it, our NHS is on it's knees, largely due to incompotance, but also because there are too many people using it who have absolutely no entitlement to do so! I'm afraid if you give in to every story that tugs on the heart strings, this country will be even more swamped with "health tourists". Incidentally, I wonder if the Home Office are aware that he's setting up an "overseas student recruitment agency". I doubt it if he faces imminent "deportation". It also begs the question that if he is to be "deported"' what serious criminal offence has he committed? Do they actually mean he is to be removed, there is a significant difference.[/p][/quote]Concur[/p][/quote]This entire country is on its knees mostly due to the fact that we have socialist goverments. Goverments which have consistently subsidised and bailed out corporations and businesses. Surely not!
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6:49pm Wed 17 Apr 13

Ballroom Blitz says...

It's simple. He can have NHS treatment if he pays for it himself. We aren't ( or shouldn't be) the worlds free health service.
This wouldn't even be an issue in other other countries, even ones in the EU. They would just make him pay if he wanted treatment.
It's simple. He can have NHS treatment if he pays for it himself. We aren't ( or shouldn't be) the worlds free health service. This wouldn't even be an issue in other other countries, even ones in the EU. They would just make him pay if he wanted treatment. Ballroom Blitz
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6:52pm Wed 17 Apr 13

Douglas Hurd says...

We have cancer drugs etc that are not given to folk because they cost £5000 a month or so.

If I went to Monaco or some other incredibly wealthy country, would expect them to pay for me?

I also have psoriasis and the best thing is sun, sun, sun. Will the St Trez tourist board pay for 2 month holidays for me?

Sadly, the answer is no to both.

A sad story, yes, and my heart goes out to the man. But as said above, we are the NHS not the INHS (International National Health Service)

And charity has to begin at home, it simply has to.
We have cancer drugs etc that are not given to folk because they cost £5000 a month or so. If I went to Monaco or some other incredibly wealthy country, would expect them to pay for me? I also have psoriasis and the best thing is sun, sun, sun. Will the St Trez tourist board pay for 2 month holidays for me? Sadly, the answer is no to both. A sad story, yes, and my heart goes out to the man. But as said above, we are the NHS not the INHS (International National Health Service) And charity has to begin at home, it simply has to. Douglas Hurd
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6:52pm Wed 17 Apr 13

welshmen says...

And we have to stop giving drugs to Cancer sufferers because the NHS can't afford it, you wait years for appointment's.

Yet the Lefties want to treat everybody that comes to this Country with a disorder that threatens our people, we have enough free loaders with out importing more....
And we have to stop giving drugs to Cancer sufferers because the NHS can't afford it, you wait years for appointment's. Yet the Lefties want to treat everybody that comes to this Country with a disorder that threatens our people, we have enough free loaders with out importing more.... welshmen
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7:19pm Wed 17 Apr 13

The last temptation of crisps says...

About 2 billion people worldwide have been infected with Hepatitis B or C with about 350 million of these cases being chronic carriers of either virus. About 1 million deaths are recorded each year.

Obviously if the people of Brighton 'squeeze up a bit' I see no reason why maybe 200 million of these people can't get the treatment they need at the Royal Sussex County. Maybe the extremely wealthy Nigerian government could spend a few pence vaccinating their population? There have been pretty much no restrictions that I've seen in operation.
Could they avoid all going on a Saturday as that's when the staff are busy dealing with drunks from London and Crawley?

@Welshmen - the Thatcheroids, Tories and Blair-Brown-tories did nothing about health tourism. I know because I repeatedly tried thumb-bottom extractions over the years.

Sadly there are just too many morons on every single shade of the political spectrum.
About 2 billion people worldwide have been infected with Hepatitis B or C with about 350 million of these cases being chronic carriers of either virus. About 1 million deaths are recorded each year. Obviously if the people of Brighton 'squeeze up a bit' I see no reason why maybe 200 million of these people can't get the treatment they need at the Royal Sussex County. Maybe the extremely wealthy Nigerian government could spend a few pence vaccinating their population? There have been pretty much no restrictions that I've seen in operation. Could they avoid all going on a Saturday as that's when the staff are busy dealing with drunks from London and Crawley? @Welshmen - the Thatcheroids, Tories and Blair-Brown-tories did nothing about health tourism. I know because I repeatedly tried thumb-bottom extractions over the years. Sadly there are just too many morons on every single shade of the political spectrum. The last temptation of crisps
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7:29pm Wed 17 Apr 13

ShorehamBeachcomber says...

As his study is finished he can go home to Nigeria where he can work & then fly to the UK and pay privately for treatment as & when required, then fly home again. He does not HAVE to live here to be treated here
As his study is finished he can go home to Nigeria where he can work & then fly to the UK and pay privately for treatment as & when required, then fly home again. He does not HAVE to live here to be treated here ShorehamBeachcomber
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7:36pm Wed 17 Apr 13

paul76 says...

Seems he came here on a study visa. If that has expired should be not go back home?
Seems he came here on a study visa. If that has expired should be not go back home? paul76
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7:47pm Wed 17 Apr 13

Douglas Hurd says...

paul76 wrote:
Seems he came here on a study visa. If that has expired should be not go back home?
I agree.

I also doubt the Argus's "he made a valuable contribution within the university and the Brighton and Hove community"

It seems he has just done a load of wishy washy liberal Marxist nonsense with no real value at all.

Ooooops sorry "the economic rights of international students" has been really useful to me as a life long Brightonian!
[quote][p][bold]paul76[/bold] wrote: Seems he came here on a study visa. If that has expired should be not go back home?[/p][/quote]I agree. I also doubt the Argus's "he made a valuable contribution within the university and the Brighton and Hove community" It seems he has just done a load of wishy washy liberal Marxist nonsense with no real value at all. Ooooops sorry "the economic rights of international students" has been really useful to me as a life long Brightonian! Douglas Hurd
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8:21pm Wed 17 Apr 13

Maxwell's Ghost says...

And Welshman, doesn't Wales have its own Parliament and don't your countrymen get free prescriptions on the NHS just as the Scottish do even though they also have their own Parliament?
When will the English start getting their fair share of Great Britain?
And Welshman, doesn't Wales have its own Parliament and don't your countrymen get free prescriptions on the NHS just as the Scottish do even though they also have their own Parliament? When will the English start getting their fair share of Great Britain? Maxwell's Ghost
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11:57pm Wed 17 Apr 13

redwing says...

God there's some frothing at the mouth on here tonight, from an ignorant bunch of rignt-wingers determined to outdo eachother in their nastiness, and not a milligram of humanity between them. And of course, if they were in this poor chap's shoes it would be a different story completely.
Good luck in your struggle Luqman.
Not all of us here in Brighton are so horrible.
God there's some frothing at the mouth on here tonight, from an ignorant bunch of rignt-wingers determined to outdo eachother in their nastiness, and not a milligram of humanity between them. And of course, if they were in this poor chap's shoes it would be a different story completely. Good luck in your struggle Luqman. Not all of us here in Brighton are so horrible. redwing
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12:41am Thu 18 Apr 13

Vigilia says...

This treatment is available in Nigeria as I was assured today by the chap who called me offering to facilitate the transfer of my quarter of a million pounds inheritance once I sent him the £10,000 he needed to "speed up" the procedures.
This treatment is available in Nigeria as I was assured today by the chap who called me offering to facilitate the transfer of my quarter of a million pounds inheritance once I sent him the £10,000 he needed to "speed up" the procedures. Vigilia
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3:03am Thu 18 Apr 13

Kate234 says...

redwing wrote:
God there's some frothing at the mouth on here tonight, from an ignorant bunch of rignt-wingers determined to outdo eachother in their nastiness, and not a milligram of humanity between them. And of course, if they were in this poor chap's shoes it would be a different story completely.
Good luck in your struggle Luqman.
Not all of us here in Brighton are so horrible.
In his shoes most of us would do exactly what he is trying to do and get the first flight over here if they lived in Nigeria. No one is blaming him. His situation is unfortunate as is the case of many other people in this country whom are told they cannot have cancer drugs as the NHS can simply not afford their treatment. The reality is though that treatment for many diseases is just not available to most of the worlds population (including the 2 billion with hep B). Do we really wish to treat them all with a hundred thousand pounds worth of treatment until the NHS just becomes financially impossible to run and we all end up having to pay for private treatment? This is the cost of treating with diseases such as this especially if they lead to liver cancer (which is very common). If so redwing perhaps you could lead the way by writing a cheque and sending it to the Royal Sussex.
[quote][p][bold]redwing[/bold] wrote: God there's some frothing at the mouth on here tonight, from an ignorant bunch of rignt-wingers determined to outdo eachother in their nastiness, and not a milligram of humanity between them. And of course, if they were in this poor chap's shoes it would be a different story completely. Good luck in your struggle Luqman. Not all of us here in Brighton are so horrible.[/p][/quote]In his shoes most of us would do exactly what he is trying to do and get the first flight over here if they lived in Nigeria. No one is blaming him. His situation is unfortunate as is the case of many other people in this country whom are told they cannot have cancer drugs as the NHS can simply not afford their treatment. The reality is though that treatment for many diseases is just not available to most of the worlds population (including the 2 billion with hep B). Do we really wish to treat them all with a hundred thousand pounds worth of treatment until the NHS just becomes financially impossible to run and we all end up having to pay for private treatment? This is the cost of treating with diseases such as this especially if they lead to liver cancer (which is very common). If so redwing perhaps you could lead the way by writing a cheque and sending it to the Royal Sussex. Kate234
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6:09am Thu 18 Apr 13

Anna Phylactic says...

Visa expired = leave the country.

Sad that he has a highly infectious deadly disease but this must not be allowed to become a reason to be allowed stay in the UK. We are all screwed if this becomes the case.
Visa expired = leave the country. Sad that he has a highly infectious deadly disease but this must not be allowed to become a reason to be allowed stay in the UK. We are all screwed if this becomes the case. Anna Phylactic
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7:05am Thu 18 Apr 13

mimseycal says...

I am overwhelmed by the humanity in these comments. It is so humbling to read all the care and concern shown and feel so fortunate to live in a society that values human life above and beyond a bank balance, skin colour, or place of origin ...
I am overwhelmed by the humanity in these comments. It is so humbling to read all the care and concern shown and feel so fortunate to live in a society that values human life above and beyond a bank balance, skin colour, or place of origin ... mimseycal
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8:04am Thu 18 Apr 13

AmboGuy says...

mimseycal wrote:
I am overwhelmed by the humanity in these comments. It is so humbling to read all the care and concern shown and feel so fortunate to live in a society that values human life above and beyond a bank balance, skin colour, or place of origin ...
I see no comments that lack humanity. People are saying that he can use the NHS if he pays for it, where is the problem there?

It would be great if we lived in a world where we could pay for everyone to use our services but the fact is we can't.
[quote][p][bold]mimseycal[/bold] wrote: I am overwhelmed by the humanity in these comments. It is so humbling to read all the care and concern shown and feel so fortunate to live in a society that values human life above and beyond a bank balance, skin colour, or place of origin ...[/p][/quote]I see no comments that lack humanity. People are saying that he can use the NHS if he pays for it, where is the problem there? It would be great if we lived in a world where we could pay for everyone to use our services but the fact is we can't. AmboGuy
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8:11am Thu 18 Apr 13

mimseycal says...

Really? The article is about him being deported despite that deportation would mean that he cannot access medical treatment. No mention in the article of whether or not he has or will be required to pay for his treatment.

As for the state of the NHS ... well, we have the monetarist policies have sent us all to the wall to thank for that! Money is king and man but its servant!
Really? The article is about him being deported despite that deportation would mean that he cannot access medical treatment. No mention in the article of whether or not he has or will be required to pay for his treatment. As for the state of the NHS ... well, we have the monetarist policies have sent us all to the wall to thank for that! Money is king and man but its servant! mimseycal
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8:33am Thu 18 Apr 13

Angryoldman says...

I'm disgusted at the lack of compassion shown by the hateful comments above.
This young man should be allowed to stay in the UK.
I'm disgusted at the lack of compassion shown by the hateful comments above. This young man should be allowed to stay in the UK. Angryoldman
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8:48am Thu 18 Apr 13

Shinypurpleshadow says...

mimseycal wrote:
Really? The article is about him being deported despite that deportation would mean that he cannot access medical treatment. No mention in the article of whether or not he has or will be required to pay for his treatment.

As for the state of the NHS ... well, we have the monetarist policies have sent us all to the wall to thank for that! Money is king and man but its servant!
Agreed - well said Mimseycal. I'm glad someone has had the sense to point out that this article is not about whether or not this man is paying for his treatment, and none of these commenters has any basis for their opinions.

This is someone who came here as an international student, so it's quite likely he has international medical insurance too.

In any case, this is not an issue of cost, but about the availability of medical treatment that will save someone's life. Very disheartening to see that this amount of people would have him condemned to death!

Moreover, we are talking about a person who has lived in this country for 6 years and has a life based here and wants to stay. If we trace our roots back, most of us will have parents, grandparents, great-grandparents etc who are not originally from this country but who moved here. Why shouldn't this man, like those people, and all of us, have the right to stay?

I have a theory that the only reason you are so hostile towards this man and indifferent to his plight is that your tiny brains cannot cope with the concept that we are all equal and deserve to be able to live as we choose, as long as we're not causing anyone any harm, and that if people want to immigrate here, contribute to the economy by paying for an education and then working here, it is not a bad thing. Shame you are all so full of hate as a result of your naievety. Ah well - there's another few votes for UKIP.
[quote][p][bold]mimseycal[/bold] wrote: Really? The article is about him being deported despite that deportation would mean that he cannot access medical treatment. No mention in the article of whether or not he has or will be required to pay for his treatment. As for the state of the NHS ... well, we have the monetarist policies have sent us all to the wall to thank for that! Money is king and man but its servant![/p][/quote]Agreed - well said Mimseycal. I'm glad someone has had the sense to point out that this article is not about whether or not this man is paying for his treatment, and none of these commenters has any basis for their opinions. This is someone who came here as an international student, so it's quite likely he has international medical insurance too. In any case, this is not an issue of cost, but about the availability of medical treatment that will save someone's life. Very disheartening to see that this amount of people would have him condemned to death! Moreover, we are talking about a person who has lived in this country for 6 years and has a life based here and wants to stay. If we trace our roots back, most of us will have parents, grandparents, great-grandparents etc who are not originally from this country but who moved here. Why shouldn't this man, like those people, and all of us, have the right to stay? I have a theory that the only reason you are so hostile towards this man and indifferent to his plight is that your tiny brains cannot cope with the concept that we are all equal and deserve to be able to live as we choose, as long as we're not causing anyone any harm, and that if people want to immigrate here, contribute to the economy by paying for an education and then working here, it is not a bad thing. Shame you are all so full of hate as a result of your naievety. Ah well - there's another few votes for UKIP. Shinypurpleshadow
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9:42am Thu 18 Apr 13

Ricayboy says...

Douglas Hurd wrote:
paul76 wrote:
Seems he came here on a study visa. If that has expired should be not go back home?
I agree.

I also doubt the Argus's "he made a valuable contribution within the university and the Brighton and Hove community"

It seems he has just done a load of wishy washy liberal Marxist nonsense with no real value at all.

Ooooops sorry "the economic rights of international students" has been really useful to me as a life long Brightonian!
Yes. Maybe I'll go to Nigeria and start a White History group and a 'HearEuropa' conference.

Bit of a subjective claim, that he made a 'valuable contribution.'
[quote][p][bold]Douglas Hurd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paul76[/bold] wrote: Seems he came here on a study visa. If that has expired should be not go back home?[/p][/quote]I agree. I also doubt the Argus's "he made a valuable contribution within the university and the Brighton and Hove community" It seems he has just done a load of wishy washy liberal Marxist nonsense with no real value at all. Ooooops sorry "the economic rights of international students" has been really useful to me as a life long Brightonian![/p][/quote]Yes. Maybe I'll go to Nigeria and start a White History group and a 'HearEuropa' conference. Bit of a subjective claim, that he made a 'valuable contribution.' Ricayboy
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9:44am Thu 18 Apr 13

Ricayboy says...

Shinypurpleshadow wrote:
mimseycal wrote:
Really? The article is about him being deported despite that deportation would mean that he cannot access medical treatment. No mention in the article of whether or not he has or will be required to pay for his treatment.

As for the state of the NHS ... well, we have the monetarist policies have sent us all to the wall to thank for that! Money is king and man but its servant!
Agreed - well said Mimseycal. I'm glad someone has had the sense to point out that this article is not about whether or not this man is paying for his treatment, and none of these commenters has any basis for their opinions.

This is someone who came here as an international student, so it's quite likely he has international medical insurance too.

In any case, this is not an issue of cost, but about the availability of medical treatment that will save someone's life. Very disheartening to see that this amount of people would have him condemned to death!

Moreover, we are talking about a person who has lived in this country for 6 years and has a life based here and wants to stay. If we trace our roots back, most of us will have parents, grandparents, great-grandparents etc who are not originally from this country but who moved here. Why shouldn't this man, like those people, and all of us, have the right to stay?

I have a theory that the only reason you are so hostile towards this man and indifferent to his plight is that your tiny brains cannot cope with the concept that we are all equal and deserve to be able to live as we choose, as long as we're not causing anyone any harm, and that if people want to immigrate here, contribute to the economy by paying for an education and then working here, it is not a bad thing. Shame you are all so full of hate as a result of your naievety. Ah well - there's another few votes for UKIP.
Um, I can trace my family line back to the 16th century in England. And even if I did find some immigrant ancestors, the fact that we had a relatively small number of immigrants at a few stages in the past does not mean we still have a divine obligation to let everybody who wants to live here do so.
[quote][p][bold]Shinypurpleshadow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mimseycal[/bold] wrote: Really? The article is about him being deported despite that deportation would mean that he cannot access medical treatment. No mention in the article of whether or not he has or will be required to pay for his treatment. As for the state of the NHS ... well, we have the monetarist policies have sent us all to the wall to thank for that! Money is king and man but its servant![/p][/quote]Agreed - well said Mimseycal. I'm glad someone has had the sense to point out that this article is not about whether or not this man is paying for his treatment, and none of these commenters has any basis for their opinions. This is someone who came here as an international student, so it's quite likely he has international medical insurance too. In any case, this is not an issue of cost, but about the availability of medical treatment that will save someone's life. Very disheartening to see that this amount of people would have him condemned to death! Moreover, we are talking about a person who has lived in this country for 6 years and has a life based here and wants to stay. If we trace our roots back, most of us will have parents, grandparents, great-grandparents etc who are not originally from this country but who moved here. Why shouldn't this man, like those people, and all of us, have the right to stay? I have a theory that the only reason you are so hostile towards this man and indifferent to his plight is that your tiny brains cannot cope with the concept that we are all equal and deserve to be able to live as we choose, as long as we're not causing anyone any harm, and that if people want to immigrate here, contribute to the economy by paying for an education and then working here, it is not a bad thing. Shame you are all so full of hate as a result of your naievety. Ah well - there's another few votes for UKIP.[/p][/quote]Um, I can trace my family line back to the 16th century in England. And even if I did find some immigrant ancestors, the fact that we had a relatively small number of immigrants at a few stages in the past does not mean we still have a divine obligation to let everybody who wants to live here do so. Ricayboy
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9:45am Thu 18 Apr 13

Ricayboy says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
And Welshman, doesn't Wales have its own Parliament and don't your countrymen get free prescriptions on the NHS just as the Scottish do even though they also have their own Parliament?
When will the English start getting their fair share of Great Britain?
Too right.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: And Welshman, doesn't Wales have its own Parliament and don't your countrymen get free prescriptions on the NHS just as the Scottish do even though they also have their own Parliament? When will the English start getting their fair share of Great Britain?[/p][/quote]Too right. Ricayboy
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9:53am Thu 18 Apr 13

FC says...

Angryoldman wrote:
I'm disgusted at the lack of compassion shown by the hateful comments above.
This young man should be allowed to stay in the UK.
Congratulations! You've just become the proud new landlord and sponsor of a Nigerian immigrant!

I suggest you start preparing his new lodgings with immediate effect. Please be advised that all costs incurred during his treatment will be payable in full by you. It is also noted that he is unemployed so you will be required to personally support his lifestyle.

Thank you!
[quote][p][bold]Angryoldman[/bold] wrote: I'm disgusted at the lack of compassion shown by the hateful comments above. This young man should be allowed to stay in the UK.[/p][/quote]Congratulations! You've just become the proud new landlord and sponsor of a Nigerian immigrant! I suggest you start preparing his new lodgings with immediate effect. Please be advised that all costs incurred during his treatment will be payable in full by you. It is also noted that he is unemployed so you will be required to personally support his lifestyle. Thank you! FC
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10:11am Thu 18 Apr 13

mimseycal says...

FC wrote:
Angryoldman wrote:
I'm disgusted at the lack of compassion shown by the hateful comments above.
This young man should be allowed to stay in the UK.
Congratulations! You've just become the proud new landlord and sponsor of a Nigerian immigrant!

I suggest you start preparing his new lodgings with immediate effect. Please be advised that all costs incurred during his treatment will be payable in full by you. It is also noted that he is unemployed so you will be required to personally support his lifestyle.

Thank you!
I sincerely hope you are never in need of compassion.
[quote][p][bold]FC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angryoldman[/bold] wrote: I'm disgusted at the lack of compassion shown by the hateful comments above. This young man should be allowed to stay in the UK.[/p][/quote]Congratulations! You've just become the proud new landlord and sponsor of a Nigerian immigrant! I suggest you start preparing his new lodgings with immediate effect. Please be advised that all costs incurred during his treatment will be payable in full by you. It is also noted that he is unemployed so you will be required to personally support his lifestyle. Thank you![/p][/quote]I sincerely hope you are never in need of compassion. mimseycal
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11:05am Thu 18 Apr 13

tooned_in says...

Over seas recruitment company YES we have sooo many vacant postions in Brighton and Hove so will be great to bring in some folk from abroad to fill these??!!??!?
Over seas recruitment company YES we have sooo many vacant postions in Brighton and Hove so will be great to bring in some folk from abroad to fill these??!!??!? tooned_in
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11:14am Thu 18 Apr 13

paul76 says...

mimseycal wrote:
I am overwhelmed by the humanity in these comments. It is so humbling to read all the care and concern shown and feel so fortunate to live in a society that values human life above and beyond a bank balance, skin colour, or place of origin ...
It's nothing to do with race, religion etc. If this was any other country such as USA or Australia he would have been out of here as soon as his study visa expired (assuming it has as the article doesn't say).

You can't stay in the country just because you are unwell if you are still fit to travel. It is not an excuse for free medical care.
[quote][p][bold]mimseycal[/bold] wrote: I am overwhelmed by the humanity in these comments. It is so humbling to read all the care and concern shown and feel so fortunate to live in a society that values human life above and beyond a bank balance, skin colour, or place of origin ...[/p][/quote]It's nothing to do with race, religion etc. If this was any other country such as USA or Australia he would have been out of here as soon as his study visa expired (assuming it has as the article doesn't say). You can't stay in the country just because you are unwell if you are still fit to travel. It is not an excuse for free medical care. paul76
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11:26am Thu 18 Apr 13

rexrex says...

the truth is he is NOT getting free treatment.

he will be receiving treatment because he requires it and with relation to the Hippocratic oath, a medical professional (and centre) will not deny treatment to anyone who requires it.

The fact his visa is no longer valid does not make him a health tourists(media invented term) anyways, whilsts his visa was valid he was entitled to all treatment. Any treatment he receives whilsts not presently/properly entitled he will be billed for by the overseas patient department of whatever hospital trust he is attending.
the truth is he is NOT getting free treatment. he will be receiving treatment because he requires it and with relation to the Hippocratic oath, a medical professional (and centre) will not deny treatment to anyone who requires it. The fact his visa is no longer valid does not make him a health tourists(media invented term) anyways, whilsts his visa was valid he was entitled to all treatment. Any treatment he receives whilsts not presently/properly entitled he will be billed for by the overseas patient department of whatever hospital trust he is attending. rexrex
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11:30am Thu 18 Apr 13

rexrex says...

and my gosh! the angry nationalist nutjobs on out in force on this story..save your anger for sunday when you can join all our football yob mates on your family beano to the seaside
and my gosh! the angry nationalist nutjobs on out in force on this story..save your anger for sunday when you can join all our football yob mates on your family beano to the seaside rexrex
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11:41am Thu 18 Apr 13

tooned_in says...

We live in an age where no-one should suffer or die from illness which can be cured but I have paid tax since 1993 and never claimed any kind of benefit, I cannot get an nhs dentist and to see my GP takes 2 weeks if im lucky...the system is past over stretched and I feel I am entilted to feel sour given what I DO NOT receive and what I have contributed for the past couple of decades.
We live in an age where no-one should suffer or die from illness which can be cured but I have paid tax since 1993 and never claimed any kind of benefit, I cannot get an nhs dentist and to see my GP takes 2 weeks if im lucky...the system is past over stretched and I feel I am entilted to feel sour given what I DO NOT receive and what I have contributed for the past couple of decades. tooned_in
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11:54am Thu 18 Apr 13

ThinkBrighton says...

Where in the story does it say that he provides for himself or do we assume that the good old british people pick up the tab, for everything including his medical bills, deport him, it will take a little bit of pressure off the SCH (see other story)
Where in the story does it say that he provides for himself or do we assume that the good old british people pick up the tab, for everything including his medical bills, deport him, it will take a little bit of pressure off the SCH (see other story) ThinkBrighton
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12:19pm Thu 18 Apr 13

julesgemini says...

I don't see why he can't have treatment on the nhs if he pays for it himself. We all have to pay! It's not really free at all we pay **** loads of tax & NI. As he's not worked here and paid tax I only think it fair that he funds it. I don't want to sound inhumain but the NHS is un stainable at the moment and that's a fact. This is a very sad case and I feel for him it's horrible. I'm sure he could do some fund raising.
I don't see why he can't have treatment on the nhs if he pays for it himself. We all have to pay! It's not really free at all we pay **** loads of tax & NI. As he's not worked here and paid tax I only think it fair that he funds it. I don't want to sound inhumain but the NHS is un stainable at the moment and that's a fact. This is a very sad case and I feel for him it's horrible. I'm sure he could do some fund raising. julesgemini
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12:49pm Thu 18 Apr 13

mimseycal says...

paul76 wrote:
mimseycal wrote:
I am overwhelmed by the humanity in these comments. It is so humbling to read all the care and concern shown and feel so fortunate to live in a society that values human life above and beyond a bank balance, skin colour, or place of origin ...
It's nothing to do with race, religion etc. If this was any other country such as USA or Australia he would have been out of here as soon as his study visa expired (assuming it has as the article doesn't say).

You can't stay in the country just because you are unwell if you are still fit to travel. It is not an excuse for free medical care.
Do read the article again.

"After graduating, Luqman worked with the Nigerian High Commission in London before his ill health forced him to resign."

"He is now setting up his own registered company as an education consultant and overseas student recruitment agent."

Does it look like the man is expecting everything for nothing?
[quote][p][bold]paul76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mimseycal[/bold] wrote: I am overwhelmed by the humanity in these comments. It is so humbling to read all the care and concern shown and feel so fortunate to live in a society that values human life above and beyond a bank balance, skin colour, or place of origin ...[/p][/quote]It's nothing to do with race, religion etc. If this was any other country such as USA or Australia he would have been out of here as soon as his study visa expired (assuming it has as the article doesn't say). You can't stay in the country just because you are unwell if you are still fit to travel. It is not an excuse for free medical care.[/p][/quote]Do read the article again. "After graduating, Luqman worked with the Nigerian High Commission in London before his ill health forced him to resign." "He is now setting up his own registered company as an education consultant and overseas student recruitment agent." Does it look like the man is expecting everything for nothing? mimseycal
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2:10pm Thu 18 Apr 13

rexrex says...

tooned_in wrote:
We live in an age where no-one should suffer or die from illness which can be cured but I have paid tax since 1993 and never claimed any kind of benefit, I cannot get an nhs dentist and to see my GP takes 2 weeks if im lucky...the system is past over stretched and I feel I am entilted to feel sour given what I DO NOT receive and what I have contributed for the past couple of decades.
and how have you contributed over the past two decades.. dont quote your NI contributions as they only count towards your state pension..

and if it is other taxes you've paid, Hmmmm I would hazard a guess that this guy too has paid his dues!

legislation does allow you choose your dentist and/or GP dont believe what a med/dental secreatry tells you! although sometimes due to capacity there may be periodical suspension to patient lists,if this is the case there are always other surgery's nearby.

and two weeks to see GP is rubbish! you can book upto two weeks in advance but not have to wait for two weeks, you can demand a GP appt on the day of calling but may not be with the specific GP you want!! .... think before you get on your high horse and make sensible real arguments or statements rather than just paraphrasing the daily mail or express...
[quote][p][bold]tooned_in[/bold] wrote: We live in an age where no-one should suffer or die from illness which can be cured but I have paid tax since 1993 and never claimed any kind of benefit, I cannot get an nhs dentist and to see my GP takes 2 weeks if im lucky...the system is past over stretched and I feel I am entilted to feel sour given what I DO NOT receive and what I have contributed for the past couple of decades.[/p][/quote]and how have you contributed over the past two decades.. dont quote your NI contributions as they only count towards your state pension.. and if it is other taxes you've paid, Hmmmm I would hazard a guess that this guy too has paid his dues! legislation does allow you choose your dentist and/or GP dont believe what a med/dental secreatry tells you! although sometimes due to capacity there may be periodical suspension to patient lists,if this is the case there are always other surgery's nearby. and two weeks to see GP is rubbish! you can book upto two weeks in advance but not have to wait for two weeks, you can demand a GP appt on the day of calling but may not be with the specific GP you want!! .... think before you get on your high horse and make sensible real arguments or statements rather than just paraphrasing the daily mail or express... rexrex
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2:27pm Thu 18 Apr 13

welshmen says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
And Welshman, doesn't Wales have its own Parliament and don't your countrymen get free prescriptions on the NHS just as the Scottish do even though they also have their own Parliament?
When will the English start getting their fair share of Great Britain?
Yes they do get FREE scripts, but if some drugs for cancer work out to be expensive for the patients circumstances they limit the treatment.

As to when will the English start getting their fair share of Great Briton ? when you stop letting in immigrants from anywhere, have a good St Georges Day on the 23rd....Patriot....
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: And Welshman, doesn't Wales have its own Parliament and don't your countrymen get free prescriptions on the NHS just as the Scottish do even though they also have their own Parliament? When will the English start getting their fair share of Great Britain?[/p][/quote]Yes they do get FREE scripts, but if some drugs for cancer work out to be expensive for the patients circumstances they limit the treatment. As to when will the English start getting their fair share of Great Briton ? when you stop letting in immigrants from anywhere, have a good St Georges Day on the 23rd....Patriot.... welshmen
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2:29pm Thu 18 Apr 13

welshmen says...

Ricayboy wrote:
Shinypurpleshadow wrote:
mimseycal wrote:
Really? The article is about him being deported despite that deportation would mean that he cannot access medical treatment. No mention in the article of whether or not he has or will be required to pay for his treatment.

As for the state of the NHS ... well, we have the monetarist policies have sent us all to the wall to thank for that! Money is king and man but its servant!
Agreed - well said Mimseycal. I'm glad someone has had the sense to point out that this article is not about whether or not this man is paying for his treatment, and none of these commenters has any basis for their opinions.

This is someone who came here as an international student, so it's quite likely he has international medical insurance too.

In any case, this is not an issue of cost, but about the availability of medical treatment that will save someone's life. Very disheartening to see that this amount of people would have him condemned to death!

Moreover, we are talking about a person who has lived in this country for 6 years and has a life based here and wants to stay. If we trace our roots back, most of us will have parents, grandparents, great-grandparents etc who are not originally from this country but who moved here. Why shouldn't this man, like those people, and all of us, have the right to stay?

I have a theory that the only reason you are so hostile towards this man and indifferent to his plight is that your tiny brains cannot cope with the concept that we are all equal and deserve to be able to live as we choose, as long as we're not causing anyone any harm, and that if people want to immigrate here, contribute to the economy by paying for an education and then working here, it is not a bad thing. Shame you are all so full of hate as a result of your naievety. Ah well - there's another few votes for UKIP.
Um, I can trace my family line back to the 16th century in England. And even if I did find some immigrant ancestors, the fact that we had a relatively small number of immigrants at a few stages in the past does not mean we still have a divine obligation to let everybody who wants to live here do so.
CONCUR
[quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shinypurpleshadow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mimseycal[/bold] wrote: Really? The article is about him being deported despite that deportation would mean that he cannot access medical treatment. No mention in the article of whether or not he has or will be required to pay for his treatment. As for the state of the NHS ... well, we have the monetarist policies have sent us all to the wall to thank for that! Money is king and man but its servant![/p][/quote]Agreed - well said Mimseycal. I'm glad someone has had the sense to point out that this article is not about whether or not this man is paying for his treatment, and none of these commenters has any basis for their opinions. This is someone who came here as an international student, so it's quite likely he has international medical insurance too. In any case, this is not an issue of cost, but about the availability of medical treatment that will save someone's life. Very disheartening to see that this amount of people would have him condemned to death! Moreover, we are talking about a person who has lived in this country for 6 years and has a life based here and wants to stay. If we trace our roots back, most of us will have parents, grandparents, great-grandparents etc who are not originally from this country but who moved here. Why shouldn't this man, like those people, and all of us, have the right to stay? I have a theory that the only reason you are so hostile towards this man and indifferent to his plight is that your tiny brains cannot cope with the concept that we are all equal and deserve to be able to live as we choose, as long as we're not causing anyone any harm, and that if people want to immigrate here, contribute to the economy by paying for an education and then working here, it is not a bad thing. Shame you are all so full of hate as a result of your naievety. Ah well - there's another few votes for UKIP.[/p][/quote]Um, I can trace my family line back to the 16th century in England. And even if I did find some immigrant ancestors, the fact that we had a relatively small number of immigrants at a few stages in the past does not mean we still have a divine obligation to let everybody who wants to live here do so.[/p][/quote]CONCUR welshmen
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2:32pm Thu 18 Apr 13

welshmen says...

FC wrote:
Angryoldman wrote:
I'm disgusted at the lack of compassion shown by the hateful comments above.
This young man should be allowed to stay in the UK.
Congratulations! You've just become the proud new landlord and sponsor of a Nigerian immigrant!

I suggest you start preparing his new lodgings with immediate effect. Please be advised that all costs incurred during his treatment will be payable in full by you. It is also noted that he is unemployed so you will be required to personally support his lifestyle.

Thank you!
Well said FC...
[quote][p][bold]FC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angryoldman[/bold] wrote: I'm disgusted at the lack of compassion shown by the hateful comments above. This young man should be allowed to stay in the UK.[/p][/quote]Congratulations! You've just become the proud new landlord and sponsor of a Nigerian immigrant! I suggest you start preparing his new lodgings with immediate effect. Please be advised that all costs incurred during his treatment will be payable in full by you. It is also noted that he is unemployed so you will be required to personally support his lifestyle. Thank you![/p][/quote]Well said FC... welshmen
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3:47pm Thu 18 Apr 13

rexrex says...

Hope this guy gets to stay and just LIVE his life..

and to his many detractors..I hope someone comes to your aid the day you need help...
Hope this guy gets to stay and just LIVE his life.. and to his many detractors..I hope someone comes to your aid the day you need help... rexrex
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4:04pm Thu 18 Apr 13

tooned_in says...

rex how has a student who studies and earns less than a taxable wage paid contributions? twice I have tried to see gp and and the wait is over 2 weeks, I dont read the daily mail/express or have a horse to climb on, employed individuals pay for the NHS through income tax it is not a free service your a comeplete giblet!
rex how has a student who studies and earns less than a taxable wage paid contributions? twice I have tried to see gp and and the wait is over 2 weeks, I dont read the daily mail/express or have a horse to climb on, employed individuals pay for the NHS through income tax it is not a free service your a comeplete giblet! tooned_in
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10:06pm Thu 18 Apr 13

Ricayboy says...

I'm not being funny, but I bet when he was here he was always going on about Nigeria and his African roots. Going back to live there...now that's a different matter. All this in a major oil producing country.
I'm not being funny, but I bet when he was here he was always going on about Nigeria and his African roots. Going back to live there...now that's a different matter. All this in a major oil producing country. Ricayboy
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10:39pm Thu 18 Apr 13

mimseycal says...

Ricayboy wrote:
I'm not being funny, but I bet when he was here he was always going on about Nigeria and his African roots. Going back to live there...now that's a different matter. All this in a major oil producing country.
You are right. You are not being funny. You are being true to form.
[quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: I'm not being funny, but I bet when he was here he was always going on about Nigeria and his African roots. Going back to live there...now that's a different matter. All this in a major oil producing country.[/p][/quote]You are right. You are not being funny. You are being true to form. mimseycal
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2:00am Sun 21 Apr 13

Brighton Visitor says...

Tough luck.
Tough luck. Brighton Visitor
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