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'I would rather live in North Korea than in Brighton'

The Argus: 'I would rather live in North Korea than in Brighton' 'I would rather live in North Korea than in Brighton'

Caustic columnist Rod Liddle has sparked controversy after describing Brighton and Hove as a “ghastly south coast seaside pit”.

The writer used his editorial in The Sunday Times to say he would prefer to live in the North Korean capital Pyongyang, rather than the Sussex city.

Headlined “Get Brighton to A&E – it’s overdosing on liberal claptrap”, the column followed news reports a panel of drug experts in the city had suggested that “safe rooms” be opened for addicts to inject heroin legally.

It is one of 26 recommendations from the Independent Drugs Commission for Brighton and Hove, which published its report into drug taking last week.

The proposals are championed by Caroline Lucas, the Brighton Green MP and panel chairman, and crime author Peter James.

Mr Liddle dubbed Brighton “Righton”, adding that it “has one of the country’s highest proportion of drug users, with almost one in four admitting having used illegal substances and a large tranche using the hardest drugs they can find”.

He wrote: “This is Righton’s latest contribution to the national debate; collude with hard drug addicts and make it easier for them to kill themselves” and ended with: “I would marginally prefer to live in Pyongyang”.

Ms Lucas, the MP for Brighton Pavilion, said the journalist, who is also the associate editor of the maga- zine The Spectator, has “completely misrepresented Brighton and Hove” as well as the feasibility study for a drug consumption facility.

She said: “If he bothered to check his facts, he’d know that drug deaths in the city are steadily declining and that there is considerable evidence that drug consumption rooms can help save more lives, as well as reduce the impact that heroin taking has on the wider community – although presumably that’s of little interest to Mr Liddle and he’d rather everyone carried on paying the price for the failure of the so-called war on drugs than open his mind to the possibility that his prejudices do an enormous disservice to those fighting hard to reduce drug related deaths.”

Best-selling crime author Peter James, who lives near Lewes, described Mr Liddle’s comments in The Sunday Times as “arrant nonsense”.

He said: “It’s one of the most sought-after places to live in the UK and anyone who has been to Brighton would know that it’s one of the nicest places in the country.”

Yesterday, Mr Liddle stood by his article and told The Argus: “I’ve been to Brighton plenty of times, although never through choice.

“I would prefer to live in Pyongyang because I like the uniforms they have, and also the pickled cabbage.

“The studies I have seen do not confirm that ‘safe rooms’ work, despite what Caroline says.”

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8:56am Tue 23 Apr 13

Poccypoc says...

Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right. Poccypoc
  • Score: 2

9:03am Tue 23 Apr 13

DaRMiH says...

Errr.... is this a labour supporter ranting on about lefties.....???
Errr.... is this a labour supporter ranting on about lefties.....??? DaRMiH
  • Score: 3

9:09am Tue 23 Apr 13

Poccypoc says...

DaRMiH wrote:
Errr.... is this a labour supporter ranting on about lefties.....???
Lefties are not just Labour supporters. They can be Lib Dems, Greens. In short, anyone who stops someone making a decent living for themselves or getting on.
[quote][p][bold]DaRMiH[/bold] wrote: Errr.... is this a labour supporter ranting on about lefties.....???[/p][/quote]Lefties are not just Labour supporters. They can be Lib Dems, Greens. In short, anyone who stops someone making a decent living for themselves or getting on. Poccypoc
  • Score: -1

9:22am Tue 23 Apr 13

Mart says...

Rod Liddle looks like a grey haired old lesbian. He would fit 'right in' in 'right on'.
Rod Liddle looks like a grey haired old lesbian. He would fit 'right in' in 'right on'. Mart
  • Score: 3

9:28am Tue 23 Apr 13

HJarrs says...

Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
Nice to see TB has one fan!

Bad news for you though, the local Labour Party seem to support many of the things you disagree with. After all, Labour and the Tories could stop any policy as they form a majority but choose not to do so.
[quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]Nice to see TB has one fan! Bad news for you though, the local Labour Party seem to support many of the things you disagree with. After all, Labour and the Tories could stop any policy as they form a majority but choose not to do so. HJarrs
  • Score: 0

9:31am Tue 23 Apr 13

Morpheus says...

It was very funny though!
It was very funny though! Morpheus
  • Score: 1

9:32am Tue 23 Apr 13

HJarrs says...

Rob Liddle is paid to be a controversial columnist, like Hitchins and others. They are only news worthy due to the navel gazing nature of the media that loves nothing more than to create its own stories.
Rob Liddle is paid to be a controversial columnist, like Hitchins and others. They are only news worthy due to the navel gazing nature of the media that loves nothing more than to create its own stories. HJarrs
  • Score: 2

9:38am Tue 23 Apr 13

RAS Putin says...

Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
There are no elections in Brighton & Hove in May 2013.
[quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]There are no elections in Brighton & Hove in May 2013. RAS Putin
  • Score: 1

9:40am Tue 23 Apr 13

ThinkBrighton says...

It's quite funny really, every day readers vent their feelings against this useless council, and the a Times journo says the truth and there us panic.
ms Lucas most of the time is in lala land and most people wouldn't trust her to walk their dog, whereas Mr James lives in his own personal Righton which is a 'fairy' tale
As for the 'studies' ms Lucas has seen are they the usual trumped up green versions?
It's quite funny really, every day readers vent their feelings against this useless council, and the a Times journo says the truth and there us panic. ms Lucas most of the time is in lala land and most people wouldn't trust her to walk their dog, whereas Mr James lives in his own personal Righton which is a 'fairy' tale As for the 'studies' ms Lucas has seen are they the usual trumped up green versions? ThinkBrighton
  • Score: 0

9:40am Tue 23 Apr 13

WooahWooah says...

It's okay, I also prefer that Rod Liddle goes and lives in North Korea. He'll fit in better there, and he won't be here in Brighton moaning about it.
It's okay, I also prefer that Rod Liddle goes and lives in North Korea. He'll fit in better there, and he won't be here in Brighton moaning about it. WooahWooah
  • Score: 2

9:42am Tue 23 Apr 13

Hoarder12345444 says...

Don't like that Rod Liddle, little idiot. Got and live in North Korea then, no one is stopping you, I think you'll find that it's far far worse than you ever imagined and that Brighton is much more liberal. Drug users or not, Brighton is the best seaside town in the whole country.
Don't like that Rod Liddle, little idiot. Got and live in North Korea then, no one is stopping you, I think you'll find that it's far far worse than you ever imagined and that Brighton is much more liberal. Drug users or not, Brighton is the best seaside town in the whole country. Hoarder12345444
  • Score: 0

9:54am Tue 23 Apr 13

kopite_rob says...

Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term.
He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals.
Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent.
He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it?
He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too.
He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week.
He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban.
He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal.
He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country.
Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson.
Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public.
And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor.
Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content.
Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide.
Then theres the expenses scandal.
Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1.
Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense.
Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy.
He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%.
He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from.
Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya.
People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens.
I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.
Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is. kopite_rob
  • Score: 4

9:55am Tue 23 Apr 13

s&k says...

I'd be more than happy for Ron 'nasty' Liddle to live in North Korea too! And every other mean-spirited Victorian Tory as well. P*ss off, Ron.
I'd be more than happy for Ron 'nasty' Liddle to live in North Korea too! And every other mean-spirited Victorian Tory as well. P*ss off, Ron. s&k
  • Score: 1

10:01am Tue 23 Apr 13

Crystal Ball says...

kopite_rob wrote:
Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term.
He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals.
Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent.
He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it?
He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too.
He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week.
He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban.
He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal.
He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country.
Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson.
Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public.
And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor.
Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content.
Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide.
Then theres the expenses scandal.
Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1.
Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense.
Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy.
He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%.
He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from.
Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya.
People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens.
I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.
Blair should be tried for treason against this country.
[quote][p][bold]kopite_rob[/bold] wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.[/p][/quote]Blair should be tried for treason against this country. Crystal Ball
  • Score: 2

10:03am Tue 23 Apr 13

Tailgaters Anonymous says...

Not sure about N Korea as a choice but agree with the rest of the piece!
Not sure about N Korea as a choice but agree with the rest of the piece! Tailgaters Anonymous
  • Score: 0

10:10am Tue 23 Apr 13

KJA_Cooke says...

Unfortunately, North Korea probably wouldn't have him but give it a try Rod, we'll wave you off from the airport. Don't pack any clothes you'll only need the uniform Say goodbye to the seaside fish & chip shops, they probably have pickled cabbage outlets sprinkled around somewhere. By the way, Rod, free speech is not something that the North Koreans are renowned for so you'll need to find other work. Bye.
Unfortunately, North Korea probably wouldn't have him but give it a try Rod, we'll wave you off from the airport. Don't pack any clothes you'll only need the uniform Say goodbye to the seaside fish & chip shops, they probably have pickled cabbage outlets sprinkled around somewhere. By the way, Rod, free speech is not something that the North Koreans are renowned for so you'll need to find other work. Bye. KJA_Cooke
  • Score: 1

10:10am Tue 23 Apr 13

scoobysnax says...

Rob Liddle sounds like his brain has gone to Pyongyang pickled cabbage.
Has no body told him man, you shouldn't be smoking the cabbage you should be vaporizing the buds.So much healthier. Lets all chill and self medicate man.

Why are people so freaked out by liberalization? Do they think we are all going to be walking around town with needles in our arms? In search of the next safe house. Suicide booths on every corner for youth in asia. Cannabis cafes everywhere along side magic mushroom yoghurt smoothie shops. Drug supermarkets selling MDMA, crystal meth pure coke as the "real thing", Ketamine and every other hard core drugs known to man.

Drugs, drugs. drugs doesn't it just scare you. Everywhere in Brighton just powdered in drugs, even the beaches are full of rocks, but I wouldn't put them in my pipe.

Me personally, I think Liddle should f@ck of to Pyongyang and soke up some of his lovely dictatorial medicine. I am sure he would love to live in a country where there are no rights or freedoms.

Just get over drugs...just don't take them. Live a healthy life style and don't get so paranoid of those that do.
I find them very boring and most the people who take them are to, this topic is so last week, a bit like Ding dong...
Rob Liddle sounds like his brain has gone to Pyongyang pickled cabbage. Has no body told him man, you shouldn't be smoking the cabbage you should be vaporizing the buds.So much healthier. Lets all chill and self medicate man. Why are people so freaked out by liberalization? Do they think we are all going to be walking around town with needles in our arms? In search of the next safe house. Suicide booths on every corner for youth in asia. Cannabis cafes everywhere along side magic mushroom yoghurt smoothie shops. Drug supermarkets selling MDMA, crystal meth pure coke as the "real thing", Ketamine and every other hard core drugs known to man. Drugs, drugs. drugs doesn't it just scare you. Everywhere in Brighton just powdered in drugs, even the beaches are full of rocks, but I wouldn't put them in my pipe. Me personally, I think Liddle should f@ck of to Pyongyang and soke up some of his lovely dictatorial medicine. I am sure he would love to live in a country where there are no rights or freedoms. Just get over drugs...just don't take them. Live a healthy life style and don't get so paranoid of those that do. I find them very boring and most the people who take them are to, this topic is so last week, a bit like Ding dong... scoobysnax
  • Score: 1

10:12am Tue 23 Apr 13

brightonian57 says...

Although I don't fully agree with the way Rod Liddle is saying things, I know exactly what he means. As I said in a previous article, it has come to the point that I am not sure I want to live in Brighton and Hove any more. I will wait until the May elections to make up my mind, but if there aren't changes. I'm off, I'm fed up with seeing the town I have lived in for 44 years, torn to pieces by a totally inept council
Although I don't fully agree with the way Rod Liddle is saying things, I know exactly what he means. As I said in a previous article, it has come to the point that I am not sure I want to live in Brighton and Hove any more. I will wait until the May elections to make up my mind, but if there aren't changes. I'm off, I'm fed up with seeing the town I have lived in for 44 years, torn to pieces by a totally inept council brightonian57
  • Score: 0

10:19am Tue 23 Apr 13

Surely not! says...

brightonian57 wrote:
Although I don't fully agree with the way Rod Liddle is saying things, I know exactly what he means. As I said in a previous article, it has come to the point that I am not sure I want to live in Brighton and Hove any more. I will wait until the May elections to make up my mind, but if there aren't changes. I'm off, I'm fed up with seeing the town I have lived in for 44 years, torn to pieces by a totally inept council
Why do you feel the need to write this claptrap. How will elections in May make any difference? Regardless, just go.. you don't need to announce it to the world... noone cares whether you stay or go. You sound like a stroppy teenager. Whatever you do I suggest you grow up.
[quote][p][bold]brightonian57[/bold] wrote: Although I don't fully agree with the way Rod Liddle is saying things, I know exactly what he means. As I said in a previous article, it has come to the point that I am not sure I want to live in Brighton and Hove any more. I will wait until the May elections to make up my mind, but if there aren't changes. I'm off, I'm fed up with seeing the town I have lived in for 44 years, torn to pieces by a totally inept council[/p][/quote]Why do you feel the need to write this claptrap. How will elections in May make any difference? Regardless, just go.. you don't need to announce it to the world... noone cares whether you stay or go. You sound like a stroppy teenager. Whatever you do I suggest you grow up. Surely not!
  • Score: 1

10:20am Tue 23 Apr 13

Pikey-Biker says...

kopite_rob wrote:
Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.
kopite_rob wrote:
Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term

You spent a long time on your post, and the first ‘fact’ is incorrect the deficient went down 1997 and only went up in 2003
[quote][p][bold]kopite_rob[/bold] wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.[/p][/quote]kopite_rob wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term You spent a long time on your post, and the first ‘fact’ is incorrect the deficient went down 1997 and only went up in 2003 Pikey-Biker
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10:24am Tue 23 Apr 13

Phani Tikkala says...

Brilliant, get Peter James (who?) to support Brighton and he doesn't even LIVE HERE

You couldn't make it up
Brilliant, get Peter James (who?) to support Brighton and he doesn't even LIVE HERE You couldn't make it up Phani Tikkala
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10:29am Tue 23 Apr 13

Fercri Sakes says...

Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
1. Personally I'd like longer cycle lanes. I know they only go as far as one college, past a school, and join up with the national cycle lane at The Drive, and I know they only cost us as much as half a house on that road and that usage is steadily going up. But still :)

2. Parking prices are high I admit. Haven't they reduced them a bit now? But residents parking permits are around for many council tax payers. Not every tourist comes to Brighton by their car.

3. Free heroin came in under the last administration. One of the 26 recent proposals was allowing users to take street drugs amongst trained medical staff. Hoping that you could encourage users to move to the prescribed stuff in an attempt to reduce crime.

4. Longer grass at the cemetery? Is this what this country is coming to? One way ticket to Pyongyang please! :)
[quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]1. Personally I'd like longer cycle lanes. I know they only go as far as one college, past a school, and join up with the national cycle lane at The Drive, and I know they only cost us as much as half a house on that road and that usage is steadily going up. But still :) 2. Parking prices are high I admit. Haven't they reduced them a bit now? But residents parking permits are around for many council tax payers. Not every tourist comes to Brighton by their car. 3. Free heroin came in under the last administration. One of the 26 recent proposals was allowing users to take street drugs amongst trained medical staff. Hoping that you could encourage users to move to the prescribed stuff in an attempt to reduce crime. 4. Longer grass at the cemetery? Is this what this country is coming to? One way ticket to Pyongyang please! :) Fercri Sakes
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10:34am Tue 23 Apr 13

Pikey-Biker says...

kopite_rob wrote:

Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson.


Err when did Manleson go to jail?
kopite_rob wrote: Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Err when did Manleson go to jail? Pikey-Biker
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10:39am Tue 23 Apr 13

brightonian57 says...

Surely not! wrote:
brightonian57 wrote:
Although I don't fully agree with the way Rod Liddle is saying things, I know exactly what he means. As I said in a previous article, it has come to the point that I am not sure I want to live in Brighton and Hove any more. I will wait until the May elections to make up my mind, but if there aren't changes. I'm off, I'm fed up with seeing the town I have lived in for 44 years, torn to pieces by a totally inept council
Why do you feel the need to write this claptrap. How will elections in May make any difference? Regardless, just go.. you don't need to announce it to the world... noone cares whether you stay or go. You sound like a stroppy teenager. Whatever you do I suggest you grow up.
When it comes to claptrap, I bow to your frequently demonstrated superiority.
[quote][p][bold]Surely not![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonian57[/bold] wrote: Although I don't fully agree with the way Rod Liddle is saying things, I know exactly what he means. As I said in a previous article, it has come to the point that I am not sure I want to live in Brighton and Hove any more. I will wait until the May elections to make up my mind, but if there aren't changes. I'm off, I'm fed up with seeing the town I have lived in for 44 years, torn to pieces by a totally inept council[/p][/quote]Why do you feel the need to write this claptrap. How will elections in May make any difference? Regardless, just go.. you don't need to announce it to the world... noone cares whether you stay or go. You sound like a stroppy teenager. Whatever you do I suggest you grow up.[/p][/quote]When it comes to claptrap, I bow to your frequently demonstrated superiority. brightonian57
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10:42am Tue 23 Apr 13

Andy R says...

Attractive as it may sound, who knows what retaliation we may provoke if we send Liddle to N Korea.....
Attractive as it may sound, who knows what retaliation we may provoke if we send Liddle to N Korea..... Andy R
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10:43am Tue 23 Apr 13

Hoarder12345444 says...

Crystal Ball wrote:
kopite_rob wrote:
Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term.
He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals.
Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent.
He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it?
He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too.
He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week.
He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban.
He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal.
He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country.
Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson.
Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public.
And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor.
Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content.
Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide.
Then theres the expenses scandal.
Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1.
Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense.
Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy.
He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%.
He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from.
Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya.
People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens.
I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.
Blair should be tried for treason against this country.
I salute Blair for having the guts to take down Saddam. I would buy the bloke a pint if I saw him in my local boozer.
[quote][p][bold]Crystal Ball[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kopite_rob[/bold] wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.[/p][/quote]Blair should be tried for treason against this country.[/p][/quote]I salute Blair for having the guts to take down Saddam. I would buy the bloke a pint if I saw him in my local boozer. Hoarder12345444
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10:46am Tue 23 Apr 13

Pikey-Biker says...

kopite_rob wrote:


He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week.

2 x 15 minutes sessions replaced by one 30 how is that reduced?
kopite_rob wrote: He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. 2 x 15 minutes sessions replaced by one 30 how is that reduced? Pikey-Biker
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10:49am Tue 23 Apr 13

Hoarder12345444 says...

kopite_rob wrote:
Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term.
He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals.
Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent.
He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it?
He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too.
He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week.
He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban.
He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal.
He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country.
Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson.
Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public.
And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor.
Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content.
Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide.
Then theres the expenses scandal.
Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1.
Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense.
Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy.
He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%.
He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from.
Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya.
People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens.
I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.
Oh and also, at least everyone had a decent job and prosperity. Unlike now where over 2.5 million people are unemployed. The tories have ripped apart the public sector and put people out of work. Great!

Oh yes but it's labours fault! Nonsense, the country was back to reasonable growth in 2010, 2011 thanks to Labour and under the tories it's stagnated and we've had a double dip recession.

George clueless Osborne.
[quote][p][bold]kopite_rob[/bold] wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.[/p][/quote]Oh and also, at least everyone had a decent job and prosperity. Unlike now where over 2.5 million people are unemployed. The tories have ripped apart the public sector and put people out of work. Great! Oh yes but it's labours fault! Nonsense, the country was back to reasonable growth in 2010, 2011 thanks to Labour and under the tories it's stagnated and we've had a double dip recession. George clueless Osborne. Hoarder12345444
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10:52am Tue 23 Apr 13

qm says...

Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
Just like to point out that it was Labour that took the country OFF it's feet in the first place - still, there are non so blind as those who will not see!
Not that the current incumbents are doing much to help mind you . . . . bring on Eddie the Eagle, at least he had spirit!
[quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]Just like to point out that it was Labour that took the country OFF it's feet in the first place - still, there are non so blind as those who will not see! Not that the current incumbents are doing much to help mind you . . . . bring on Eddie the Eagle, at least he had spirit! qm
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10:52am Tue 23 Apr 13

welshmen says...

Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
You on something or your just having a laugh, or perhaps been a sleep for thirteen years or your a very grateful immigrant, Mr made a fortune out of lie's Blair should be tried for war crimes and treason against the British Race....
[quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]You on something or your just having a laugh, or perhaps been a sleep for thirteen years or your a very grateful immigrant, Mr made a fortune out of lie's Blair should be tried for war crimes and treason against the British Race.... welshmen
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10:57am Tue 23 Apr 13

welshmen says...

kopite_rob wrote:
Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term.
He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals.
Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent.
He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it?
He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too.
He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week.
He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban.
He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal.
He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country.
Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson.
Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public.
And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor.
Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content.
Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide.
Then theres the expenses scandal.
Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1.
Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense.
Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy.
He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%.
He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from.
Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya.
People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens.
I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.
Excellent factual post, the sad thing about him is, people will only see the good side he had, "he was a dad"....
[quote][p][bold]kopite_rob[/bold] wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.[/p][/quote]Excellent factual post, the sad thing about him is, people will only see the good side he had, "he was a dad".... welshmen
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11:13am Tue 23 Apr 13

Poccypoc says...

RAS Putin wrote:
Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
There are no elections in Brighton & Hove in May 2013.
I did wonder, cos we had them in 2011, so next year in the three-year cycle.
[quote][p][bold]RAS Putin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]There are no elections in Brighton & Hove in May 2013.[/p][/quote]I did wonder, cos we had them in 2011, so next year in the three-year cycle. Poccypoc
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11:14am Tue 23 Apr 13

Poccypoc says...

HJarrs wrote:
Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
Nice to see TB has one fan!

Bad news for you though, the local Labour Party seem to support many of the things you disagree with. After all, Labour and the Tories could stop any policy as they form a majority but choose not to do so.
So who voted for Tony Blair's Labour in 1997, 2001 and 2005????????????????
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[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]Nice to see TB has one fan! Bad news for you though, the local Labour Party seem to support many of the things you disagree with. After all, Labour and the Tories could stop any policy as they form a majority but choose not to do so.[/p][/quote]So who voted for Tony Blair's Labour in 1997, 2001 and 2005???????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ?? Poccypoc
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11:18am Tue 23 Apr 13

Poccypoc says...

kopite_rob wrote:
Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term.
He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals.
Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent.
He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it?
He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too.
He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week.
He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban.
He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal.
He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country.
Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson.
Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public.
And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor.
Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content.
Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide.
Then theres the expenses scandal.
Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1.
Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense.
Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy.
He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%.
He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from.
Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya.
People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens.
I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.
What a load of TOSH! By the way, Mr Prescott was assaulted by a member of the public. If someone threw an egg at you for close-range, what would YOU do - say "You didn't throw it hard enough"?
[quote][p][bold]kopite_rob[/bold] wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.[/p][/quote]What a load of TOSH! By the way, Mr Prescott was assaulted by a member of the public. If someone threw an egg at you for close-range, what would YOU do - say "You didn't throw it hard enough"? Poccypoc
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11:29am Tue 23 Apr 13

Council Pounder says...

brightonian57 wrote:
Although I don't fully agree with the way Rod Liddle is saying things, I know exactly what he means. As I said in a previous article, it has come to the point that I am not sure I want to live in Brighton and Hove any more. I will wait until the May elections to make up my mind, but if there aren't changes. I'm off, I'm fed up with seeing the town I have lived in for 44 years, torn to pieces by a totally inept council
Move then if you don't like it.
[quote][p][bold]brightonian57[/bold] wrote: Although I don't fully agree with the way Rod Liddle is saying things, I know exactly what he means. As I said in a previous article, it has come to the point that I am not sure I want to live in Brighton and Hove any more. I will wait until the May elections to make up my mind, but if there aren't changes. I'm off, I'm fed up with seeing the town I have lived in for 44 years, torn to pieces by a totally inept council[/p][/quote]Move then if you don't like it. Council Pounder
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11:37am Tue 23 Apr 13

Andy R says...

Some people on here seem to think that the Greens will be "out in the May elections".

Now.....how am I going to break the bad news to them about May's elections....?
Some people on here seem to think that the Greens will be "out in the May elections". Now.....how am I going to break the bad news to them about May's elections....? Andy R
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11:38am Tue 23 Apr 13

Ringfencer says...

For once I am in agreement with Rod Little I would rather he lived in North Korea than Brighton too.
For once I am in agreement with Rod Little I would rather he lived in North Korea than Brighton too. Ringfencer
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11:46am Tue 23 Apr 13

Monkey Edwards says...

poccypoc: Why is it a load of tosh, thats your answer to the valid points mentioned. No wonder you voted labour and bought the country to its knees!

Please tell me what Mr Blair did for this country?
poccypoc: Why is it a load of tosh, thats your answer to the valid points mentioned. No wonder you voted labour and bought the country to its knees! Please tell me what Mr Blair did for this country? Monkey Edwards
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12:45pm Tue 23 Apr 13

deanaprior says...

Is he the bloke with the emu.
Didn't he fall of a roof?
Is he the bloke with the emu. Didn't he fall of a roof? deanaprior
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1:04pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Fercri Sakes says...

Monkey Edwards wrote:
poccypoc: Why is it a load of tosh, thats your answer to the valid points mentioned. No wonder you voted labour and bought the country to its knees!

Please tell me what Mr Blair did for this country?
Not that I'm a fan of his but introducing the minimum wage? Started to put some money into the NHS and schools after years of chronic underfunding under the Tories?
[quote][p][bold]Monkey Edwards[/bold] wrote: poccypoc: Why is it a load of tosh, thats your answer to the valid points mentioned. No wonder you voted labour and bought the country to its knees! Please tell me what Mr Blair did for this country?[/p][/quote]Not that I'm a fan of his but introducing the minimum wage? Started to put some money into the NHS and schools after years of chronic underfunding under the Tories? Fercri Sakes
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1:07pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

Rod Liddle is the best columnist writing in British newspapers today. Doesn't mean he's always right, but he HAS got a point about the uniforms ....
Rod Liddle is the best columnist writing in British newspapers today. Doesn't mean he's always right, but he HAS got a point about the uniforms .... Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit
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1:10pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Andy R says...

Poccypoc wrote:
RAS Putin wrote:
Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
There are no elections in Brighton & Hove in May 2013.
I did wonder, cos we had them in 2011, so next year in the three-year cycle.
2015 actually. It's once every 4 years.
[quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RAS Putin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]There are no elections in Brighton & Hove in May 2013.[/p][/quote]I did wonder, cos we had them in 2011, so next year in the three-year cycle.[/p][/quote]2015 actually. It's once every 4 years. Andy R
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1:21pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Number Six says...

Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
Margaret Thatcher was also elected three times so by your own logic she must have been doing something right.

I read this article over my Sunday breakfast and wondered how long it would be before drama queens would sulk because someone had said something less than pleasant about their pretentious city. Not long at all, it seems
[quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]Margaret Thatcher was also elected three times so by your own logic she must have been doing something right. I read this article over my Sunday breakfast and wondered how long it would be before drama queens would sulk because someone had said something less than pleasant about their pretentious city. Not long at all, it seems Number Six
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1:57pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Pikey-Biker says...

welshmen wrote:
kopite_rob wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.
Excellent factual post, the sad thing about him is, people will only see the good side he had, "he was a dad"....
Excellent factual post??, if most of the facts stated were correct then it would have been

But it isn't
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kopite_rob[/bold] wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.[/p][/quote]Excellent factual post, the sad thing about him is, people will only see the good side he had, "he was a dad"....[/p][/quote]Excellent factual post??, if most of the facts stated were correct then it would have been But it isn't Pikey-Biker
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2:35pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Ashles says...

HJarrs wrote:
Rob Liddle is paid to be a controversial columnist, like Hitchins and others. They are only news worthy due to the navel gazing nature of the media that loves nothing more than to create its own stories.
This.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Rob Liddle is paid to be a controversial columnist, like Hitchins and others. They are only news worthy due to the navel gazing nature of the media that loves nothing more than to create its own stories.[/p][/quote]This. Ashles
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2:45pm Tue 23 Apr 13

HJarrs says...

Poccypoc wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
Nice to see TB has one fan!

Bad news for you though, the local Labour Party seem to support many of the things you disagree with. After all, Labour and the Tories could stop any policy as they form a majority but choose not to do so.
So who voted for Tony Blair's Labour in 1997, 2001 and 2005????????????????

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Well, I was a Labour member and voted for them until 1997 and then I realised that the party was no longer a progressive party committed to social change, but had been hijacked by Tony and cronies with a narrow neo-liberal agenda.

Whilst new Labour was a far better alternative than a Tory party led by Micky Howard or Willy Haigh, the main beneficiaries were the wealthy and the powerful.

I know many decent people in the Labour Party. Many would find a far better match of values, action, enthusiasm and policies with the Greens, but their tribal loyalty, so often taken advantage of, prevents them from crossing over.

As I point out, your local Labour Party agree with much of the minority Green administration. They could combine with the Tories at any time to stop any policy, but seldom do.

When is Rob Liddle heading to N Korea?
[quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]Nice to see TB has one fan! Bad news for you though, the local Labour Party seem to support many of the things you disagree with. After all, Labour and the Tories could stop any policy as they form a majority but choose not to do so.[/p][/quote]So who voted for Tony Blair's Labour in 1997, 2001 and 2005???????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ??[/p][/quote]Well, I was a Labour member and voted for them until 1997 and then I realised that the party was no longer a progressive party committed to social change, but had been hijacked by Tony and cronies with a narrow neo-liberal agenda. Whilst new Labour was a far better alternative than a Tory party led by Micky Howard or Willy Haigh, the main beneficiaries were the wealthy and the powerful. I know many decent people in the Labour Party. Many would find a far better match of values, action, enthusiasm and policies with the Greens, but their tribal loyalty, so often taken advantage of, prevents them from crossing over. As I point out, your local Labour Party agree with much of the minority Green administration. They could combine with the Tories at any time to stop any policy, but seldom do. When is Rob Liddle heading to N Korea? HJarrs
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3:20pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Flippin Burghers says...

Agreement all round then. Mr Liddle, we also would rather you live in North Korea than in Brighton.
Agreement all round then. Mr Liddle, we also would rather you live in North Korea than in Brighton. Flippin Burghers
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4:06pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Pitviper says...

Bye, turn out the light and close the door behind you!
Bye, turn out the light and close the door behind you! Pitviper
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4:49pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Ashles says...

"Mr Liddle dubbed Brighton “Righton”"

HAHAHAHA! Oh my lord, that's just brilliant! Oh mercy me! That's fantastic!
Really. Just hilarious!

You can tell this man makes his living using the written word when he has access to awesome wordplay such as this. To have such a god-given gift to be able to generate puns that everyone else has been using for about forty years... wow, how does he do it?

I only pity him that he has so little control of his life that other people can force him to repeatedly come to Brighton when he hates it so. Perhaps he should consider changing career?
"Mr Liddle dubbed Brighton “Righton”" HAHAHAHA! Oh my lord, that's just brilliant! Oh mercy me! That's fantastic! Really. Just hilarious! You can tell this man makes his living using the written word when he has access to awesome wordplay such as this. To have such a god-given gift to be able to generate puns that everyone else has been using for about forty years... wow, how does he do it? I only pity him that he has so little control of his life that other people can force him to repeatedly come to Brighton when he hates it so. Perhaps he should consider changing career? Ashles
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6:56pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Bill in Hanover says...

Phani Tikkala wrote:
Brilliant, get Peter James (who?) to support Brighton and he doesn't even LIVE HERE

You couldn't make it up
Peter James (yes who?) lives in Henfield, not near Lewes and if he's so keen on setting up shooting galleries (with food and drink provided apparently and a Doctor in attendance and guess who pays for it all) why not have them in Henfield rather than Brighton where the fresh air would do them some good. We need to reduce the number of druggies in Brighton not attract more of them here.
[quote][p][bold]Phani Tikkala[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, get Peter James (who?) to support Brighton and he doesn't even LIVE HERE You couldn't make it up[/p][/quote]Peter James (yes who?) lives in Henfield, not near Lewes and if he's so keen on setting up shooting galleries (with food and drink provided apparently and a Doctor in attendance and guess who pays for it all) why not have them in Henfield rather than Brighton where the fresh air would do them some good. We need to reduce the number of druggies in Brighton not attract more of them here. Bill in Hanover
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9:13pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Ballroom Blitz says...

Crystal Ball wrote:
kopite_rob wrote:
Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term.
He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals.
Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent.
He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it?
He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too.
He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week.
He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban.
He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal.
He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country.
Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson.
Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public.
And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor.
Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content.
Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide.
Then theres the expenses scandal.
Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1.
Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense.
Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy.
He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%.
He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from.
Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya.
People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens.
I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.
Blair should be tried for treason against this country.
As should Thatcher..... Oh, she's dead. What a shame.
[quote][p][bold]Crystal Ball[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kopite_rob[/bold] wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.[/p][/quote]Blair should be tried for treason against this country.[/p][/quote]As should Thatcher..... Oh, she's dead. What a shame. Ballroom Blitz
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9:53pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Mr.Logical1 says...

The guy is paid to write nonsense. I'm surprised anyone listens. Shall we send him to North Korea?
The guy is paid to write nonsense. I'm surprised anyone listens. Shall we send him to North Korea? Mr.Logical1
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10:15pm Tue 23 Apr 13

thommy says...

Have you noticed that whenever lefties are associated with something unpleasant, they try to distance themselves from it. For instance, how many try and make out that the oaf Blair is actually their enemy, because he was the wrong sort of leftie. The other night on Panorama, the leftie journalist had the front to try and make out that North Korea was actually a right wing state. These people are beyond help. That bloke Liddle has certainly seen some sort of certifiable disfunction in the Brighton Labour/Green Party.
Have you noticed that whenever lefties are associated with something unpleasant, they try to distance themselves from it. For instance, how many try and make out that the oaf Blair is actually their enemy, because he was the wrong sort of leftie. The other night on Panorama, the leftie journalist had the front to try and make out that North Korea was actually a right wing state. These people are beyond help. That bloke Liddle has certainly seen some sort of certifiable disfunction in the Brighton Labour/Green Party. thommy
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10:57pm Tue 23 Apr 13

clubrob6 says...

Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
The biggest joke the greens have done is starting to fill bowling greens in on hove seafront due to lack of funding,instead of just leaving them like the one already not used and just do a basic cut,they have spent tens of thousands filling them in thus they now CANT be brought back into use when the economy recovers.The money spent filling them in would have paid the upkeep for years,this is why im NOT voting greens,GREENS REMOVE GREENS.
[quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]The biggest joke the greens have done is starting to fill bowling greens in on hove seafront due to lack of funding,instead of just leaving them like the one already not used and just do a basic cut,they have spent tens of thousands filling them in thus they now CANT be brought back into use when the economy recovers.The money spent filling them in would have paid the upkeep for years,this is why im NOT voting greens,GREENS REMOVE GREENS. clubrob6
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11:01pm Tue 23 Apr 13

clubrob6 says...

Crystal Ball wrote:
kopite_rob wrote:
Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term.
He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals.
Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent.
He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it?
He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too.
He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week.
He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban.
He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal.
He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country.
Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson.
Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public.
And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor.
Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content.
Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide.
Then theres the expenses scandal.
Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1.
Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense.
Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy.
He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%.
He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from.
Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya.
People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens.
I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.
Blair should be tried for treason against this country.
I agree BLAIR according to my 94yr old dad is a TRAITOR.
[quote][p][bold]Crystal Ball[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kopite_rob[/bold] wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.[/p][/quote]Blair should be tried for treason against this country.[/p][/quote]I agree BLAIR according to my 94yr old dad is a TRAITOR. clubrob6
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11:31pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Nellie's Grandson says...

Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke!

* Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road
* Exorbitant parking prices
*Free drugs on the taxpayer
* Longer grass at Hove Cemetery

Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
Mrs Thatcher was elected three times as well and did far more right that the war mongering disingenuous Blair but I don't suppose you will acknowledge or recognise that fact.
[quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]Mrs Thatcher was elected three times as well and did far more right that the war mongering disingenuous Blair but I don't suppose you will acknowledge or recognise that fact. Nellie's Grandson
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11:34pm Tue 23 Apr 13

Nellie's Grandson says...

kopite_rob wrote:
Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term.
He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals.
Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent.
He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it?
He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too.
He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week.
He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban.
He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal.
He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country.
Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson.
Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public.
And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor.
Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content.
Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide.
Then theres the expenses scandal.
Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1.
Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense.
Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy.
He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%.
He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from.
Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya.
People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens.
I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.
Here here well said
[quote][p][bold]kopite_rob[/bold] wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.[/p][/quote]Here here well said Nellie's Grandson
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2:00am Wed 24 Apr 13

Brighton Visitor says...

Brighton is a dump.
Brighton is a dump. Brighton Visitor
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4:43am Wed 24 Apr 13

boo2005 says...

Tailgaters Anonymous wrote:
Not sure about N Korea as a choice but agree with the rest of the piece!
very regretfully, so do I, it's the painful truth and it's in no way restricted only to the drugs problems that we have here, the general standard of the residents of this city has dropped massively over the last few years!
[quote][p][bold]Tailgaters Anonymous[/bold] wrote: Not sure about N Korea as a choice but agree with the rest of the piece![/p][/quote]very regretfully, so do I, it's the painful truth and it's in no way restricted only to the drugs problems that we have here, the general standard of the residents of this city has dropped massively over the last few years! boo2005
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8:00am Wed 24 Apr 13

salty_pete says...

kopite_rob wrote:
Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term.
He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals.
Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent.
He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it?
He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too.
He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week.
He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban.
He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal.
He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country.
Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson.
Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public.
And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor.
Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content.
Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide.
Then theres the expenses scandal.
Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1.
Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense.
Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy.
He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%.
He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from.
Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya.
People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens.
I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.
You forgot to mention Bliar's constitutional vandalism. Removing independent minded hereditary lords, that have been a sound foil to may of the extravagances of the House of Commons. And replacing them with Labour cronies that hugely donated to the party. Plus giving the Scots and Welsh their own assemblies without resolving the West Lothian question.
[quote][p][bold]kopite_rob[/bold] wrote: Yes under Blairs watch we saw the National Deficit go from £5 billion to £20 billion by the end of just his first term. He raised taxes and promised to spend it on education & health reforms, which actually turned out to be PFI's so the Govt. is now indebted to huge numbers for decades to private businesses for building new schools & hospitals. Not that you actually see any improvement in health services or education after 3 terms in office So exactly where did the tax increase really get spent. He deregulated the Bank of England. That turned out well didnt it? He allowed Brown to sell British Gold at a record low and buy Euros.That turned out to be a wise investment too. He reduced the Houses scrutiny of him by reducing PMQ's from twice a week to once a week. He accepted an £1 million "donation" from Bernie Ecclestone and promptly exempted Formula One from a tabbacco advertising ban. He is the only serving Prime Minister to ever be interviewed by the Police for the cash for questions scandal. He cosied up to the Murdoch empire when the Murdoch empire was illegally bugging half the country. Repeatedly reinstated his best mate and repeat jailbird Peter Mandelson. Didn't castigate Two Jags Prescott for his common assault of a member of the public. And appointed his old school chum Falconer as Lord Chancellor. Introduced the world to "spin" politics, where burying bad news was essential and the quality of the presentation was more important than the content. Ending with the Hutton Report whitewash over Dr Kellys suicide. Then theres the expenses scandal. Spending £789 million on the Millenium Dome, spending £1 million a month maintaining it after it closed, then selling it for £1. Introducing the Human Rights Act which seems to have benefitted his wife, a Human Rights Barrister more than anyone else in the country and allows any immigrant, criminal or terrorist to stay indefintely in this country at taxpayers expense. Theres the dubious property arrangements with convicted fraudster Peter Foster for his sons benefit whilst at University and the £1.35 million he paid CASH for his daughters house.One of seven properties he owns in a £20 million portfolio.But as he's estimated to earn £20 million a year from Govt. advisory work and consultancy. He promised a 20% reduction in CO2 emmisions and 10% of our energy would come from renewable sources by 2010, to date its 3%. He dragged his heels and acted like a frightened rabbit almost destroying the agricultural industry of Britain during the foot and mouth crisis.Something Britains farmers still haven't recovered from. Then theres his War record.6 times in his first 5 years in office. Kosovo,Sierra Leone,Afghanistan and Iraq twice.He was friends with Colonel Gadaffi and was reponsible for the rendition of Abdel Behaj in 2004 to Libya. People complain about Maggie sending troops to the Falklands, at least that was defending our own citizens. I could go on, theres plenty more, but it seems the country has a short memory of how corrupt and inefficient the Labour Party is.[/p][/quote]You forgot to mention Bliar's constitutional vandalism. Removing independent minded hereditary lords, that have been a sound foil to may of the extravagances of the House of Commons. And replacing them with Labour cronies that hugely donated to the party. Plus giving the Scots and Welsh their own assemblies without resolving the West Lothian question. salty_pete
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10:28am Wed 24 Apr 13

ThinkBrighton says...

After this mile long comments column, it proves that politics should really be kept out of local government as the partys spend more time in empire building than running the city.
What is really required is an independent elected body of Brightonians who will care for their city and not their political partys stupid ideas
After this mile long comments column, it proves that politics should really be kept out of local government as the partys spend more time in empire building than running the city. What is really required is an independent elected body of Brightonians who will care for their city and not their political partys stupid ideas ThinkBrighton
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11:00am Wed 24 Apr 13

peppermint paddy65 says...

You have got to hand it to Rod Liddle, he has been paid to write utter tosh for the last twenty or so years! I fear if we sent him packing to Pyong Yang,Kim Jong Un would send him back pretty sharpish!
You have got to hand it to Rod Liddle, he has been paid to write utter tosh for the last twenty or so years! I fear if we sent him packing to Pyong Yang,Kim Jong Un would send him back pretty sharpish! peppermint paddy65
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11:01am Wed 24 Apr 13

hubby says...

Morpheus wrote:
It was very funny though!
A lot of truth in there as well.
I moved out ten years ago to live in Spain after 42 years in Brighton.I would never go back.
[quote][p][bold]Morpheus[/bold] wrote: It was very funny though![/p][/quote]A lot of truth in there as well. I moved out ten years ago to live in Spain after 42 years in Brighton.I would never go back. hubby
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3:18pm Wed 24 Apr 13

Number Six says...

So Argus, why did you remove my post?
So Argus, why did you remove my post? Number Six
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3:18pm Wed 24 Apr 13

scoobysnax says...

Yeh send him off to North Korea and nuke em till he glows!!!
Yeh send him off to North Korea and nuke em till he glows!!! scoobysnax
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3:38pm Wed 24 Apr 13

gheese77 says...

Poccypoc wrote:
Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.
But he is also a criminal and the reason I will never vote Labour again (unless Ed Miliband calls for home to be sent to the Hague of course)
[quote][p][bold]Poccypoc[/bold] wrote: Greens out in the May elections. I recycle like the next man, but this wishy-washy ragbag of tree-hugging, car-hating lefties has become a joke! * Over-long, under-used cycle lane on Old Shoreham Road * Exorbitant parking prices *Free drugs on the taxpayer * Longer grass at Hove Cemetery Vote Labour and get this city and the country back on its feet. Tony Blair was elected three times, so he must have been doing something right. In fact, he did a LOT right.[/p][/quote]But he is also a criminal and the reason I will never vote Labour again (unless Ed Miliband calls for home to be sent to the Hague of course) gheese77
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3:42pm Wed 24 Apr 13

Sarah Booker Lewis says...

Number Six wrote:
So Argus, why did you remove my post?
Your post quoted another post containing profanity.
[quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: So Argus, why did you remove my post?[/p][/quote]Your post quoted another post containing profanity. Sarah Booker Lewis
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4:41pm Wed 24 Apr 13

ronrostog says...

My only gripe with Liddle is that he is a Millwall fan so on the basis one less in the UK is a good thing can't we send Liddle AND the Greens to N.Korea?
My only gripe with Liddle is that he is a Millwall fan so on the basis one less in the UK is a good thing can't we send Liddle AND the Greens to N.Korea? ronrostog
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5:47pm Wed 24 Apr 13

Andy R says...

ThinkBrighton wrote:
After this mile long comments column, it proves that politics should really be kept out of local government as the partys spend more time in empire building than running the city.
What is really required is an independent elected body of Brightonians who will care for their city and not their political partys stupid ideas
So go on then. What's stopping you?

Make it happen. Sell the armchair, the pipe and the slippers and get some leaflets printed!
[quote][p][bold]ThinkBrighton[/bold] wrote: After this mile long comments column, it proves that politics should really be kept out of local government as the partys spend more time in empire building than running the city. What is really required is an independent elected body of Brightonians who will care for their city and not their political partys stupid ideas[/p][/quote]So go on then. What's stopping you? Make it happen. Sell the armchair, the pipe and the slippers and get some leaflets printed! Andy R
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7:33pm Wed 24 Apr 13

Nosfaratu says...

Too true mate.
As dumps go Brighton is catching up with Hastings and St Leonards and encouraging all the Junkies in the EU to queue up for a hit is no way to go.

I have a question, is it free to any citizen to visit or due have to have a special Brighton Junky Pass
Too true mate. As dumps go Brighton is catching up with Hastings and St Leonards and encouraging all the Junkies in the EU to queue up for a hit is no way to go. I have a question, is it free to any citizen to visit or due have to have a special Brighton Junky Pass Nosfaratu
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9:02pm Wed 24 Apr 13

Aspect8 says...

As soon as we boot out the green's in the next election Brighton will be a better place to live, Brighton has gone downhill in recent years all because of them and their ludicrous policies. The green's are damaging Brighton's image, people's confidence, business, and the reputation of the city, THEY HAVE GOT TO GO!

As for this bloke wanting to live in North Korea, perhaps he should go and see what it is really like, he isn't likely to get back out alive though, hope he realises that. It is a one way ticket to North Korea i'm affraid!
As soon as we boot out the green's in the next election Brighton will be a better place to live, Brighton has gone downhill in recent years all because of them and their ludicrous policies. The green's are damaging Brighton's image, people's confidence, business, and the reputation of the city, THEY HAVE GOT TO GO! As for this bloke wanting to live in North Korea, perhaps he should go and see what it is really like, he isn't likely to get back out alive though, hope he realises that. It is a one way ticket to North Korea i'm affraid! Aspect8
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9:37pm Wed 24 Apr 13

iceman00 says...

thommy wrote:
Have you noticed that whenever lefties are associated with something unpleasant, they try to distance themselves from it. For instance, how many try and make out that the oaf Blair is actually their enemy, because he was the wrong sort of leftie. The other night on Panorama, the leftie journalist had the front to try and make out that North Korea was actually a right wing state. These people are beyond help. That bloke Liddle has certainly seen some sort of certifiable disfunction in the Brighton Labour/Green Party.
North Korea is a hard core right wing state. Just because it calls itself communist doesn't mean it is. If I said my cat was a dog does that mean it is?

North Korea is based on hierarchy and social conformity. It also has a ruling autocracy. It is no different from Hitlers Germany.
[quote][p][bold]thommy[/bold] wrote: Have you noticed that whenever lefties are associated with something unpleasant, they try to distance themselves from it. For instance, how many try and make out that the oaf Blair is actually their enemy, because he was the wrong sort of leftie. The other night on Panorama, the leftie journalist had the front to try and make out that North Korea was actually a right wing state. These people are beyond help. That bloke Liddle has certainly seen some sort of certifiable disfunction in the Brighton Labour/Green Party.[/p][/quote]North Korea is a hard core right wing state. Just because it calls itself communist doesn't mean it is. If I said my cat was a dog does that mean it is? North Korea is based on hierarchy and social conformity. It also has a ruling autocracy. It is no different from Hitlers Germany. iceman00
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9:37pm Wed 24 Apr 13

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

Amazing how many people can't see through a bit of irony !

He has made a perfectly valid point in that Kim Il Kitcat and Comrad Lucas are rapidly reducing this city to a laughing stock and if they carry on the way they are going then Brighton will soon be as big a wasteland as North Korea.
Amazing how many people can't see through a bit of irony ! He has made a perfectly valid point in that Kim Il Kitcat and Comrad Lucas are rapidly reducing this city to a laughing stock and if they carry on the way they are going then Brighton will soon be as big a wasteland as North Korea. Idontbelieveit1948
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9:49pm Wed 24 Apr 13

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

iceman00 wrote:
thommy wrote:
Have you noticed that whenever lefties are associated with something unpleasant, they try to distance themselves from it. For instance, how many try and make out that the oaf Blair is actually their enemy, because he was the wrong sort of leftie. The other night on Panorama, the leftie journalist had the front to try and make out that North Korea was actually a right wing state. These people are beyond help. That bloke Liddle has certainly seen some sort of certifiable disfunction in the Brighton Labour/Green Party.
North Korea is a hard core right wing state. Just because it calls itself communist doesn't mean it is. If I said my cat was a dog does that mean it is?

North Korea is based on hierarchy and social conformity. It also has a ruling autocracy. It is no different from Hitlers Germany.
No, it's left wing alright - what you have missed is that once in power the snouts go in the trough, they all do it no matter what colour or persuasion - the lefties, however, keep denying they do it with that unbelievable hypocrisy only lefties seem to have.
[quote][p][bold]iceman00[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thommy[/bold] wrote: Have you noticed that whenever lefties are associated with something unpleasant, they try to distance themselves from it. For instance, how many try and make out that the oaf Blair is actually their enemy, because he was the wrong sort of leftie. The other night on Panorama, the leftie journalist had the front to try and make out that North Korea was actually a right wing state. These people are beyond help. That bloke Liddle has certainly seen some sort of certifiable disfunction in the Brighton Labour/Green Party.[/p][/quote]North Korea is a hard core right wing state. Just because it calls itself communist doesn't mean it is. If I said my cat was a dog does that mean it is? North Korea is based on hierarchy and social conformity. It also has a ruling autocracy. It is no different from Hitlers Germany.[/p][/quote]No, it's left wing alright - what you have missed is that once in power the snouts go in the trough, they all do it no matter what colour or persuasion - the lefties, however, keep denying they do it with that unbelievable hypocrisy only lefties seem to have. Idontbelieveit1948
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1:38pm Thu 25 Apr 13

wendy-uk says...

Phani Tikkala wrote:
Brilliant, get Peter James (who?) to support Brighton and he doesn't even LIVE HERE

You couldn't make it up
Are you kidding, you actually don't know who Peter James is? That's OK, he's only a Brighton-born award-winning author who's written 25 books, most of them set in Brighton which between them have sold millions of copies. *Rolls eyes*.
[quote][p][bold]Phani Tikkala[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, get Peter James (who?) to support Brighton and he doesn't even LIVE HERE You couldn't make it up[/p][/quote]Are you kidding, you actually don't know who Peter James is? That's OK, he's only a Brighton-born award-winning author who's written 25 books, most of them set in Brighton which between them have sold millions of copies. *Rolls eyes*. wendy-uk
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5:16pm Thu 25 Apr 13

scoobysnax says...

So many great people live here in Brighton,I've been living here for over 3 years.Been coming here since 1987. I love it, sometimes it has it's downers, like any in big town in England. I've lived in Hackney, Crouchend, Hitchin, Lewes,Rugby,Salsbury and even Kensington but Brighton's the best.
The easiest place I've found to make friends in Britain. Love it, love it, love it!! and when the weather shines, I love it even more. Pyongyang just doesn't have that allure for me.
So many great people live here in Brighton,I've been living here for over 3 years.Been coming here since 1987. I love it, sometimes it has it's downers, like any in big town in England. I've lived in Hackney, Crouchend, Hitchin, Lewes,Rugby,Salsbury and even Kensington but Brighton's the best. The easiest place I've found to make friends in Britain. Love it, love it, love it!! and when the weather shines, I love it even more. Pyongyang just doesn't have that allure for me. scoobysnax
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3:36pm Sat 27 Apr 13

hubby says...

Yes Brighton is great!
Moulscoomb.Whitehawk
,Dukes Mound,Norfolk Square (ok Hove actually),West Street on a friday night,London Road,the level,Pool Valley...........I could go on for ever.
What a place!
Yes Brighton is great! Moulscoomb.Whitehawk ,Dukes Mound,Norfolk Square (ok Hove actually),West Street on a friday night,London Road,the level,Pool Valley...........I could go on for ever. What a place! hubby
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3:59pm Thu 2 May 13

AlasPoorYorick says...

Back to the point (a little anyway).

Brighton has become dirty, grubby, run down and polluted (look at the pollution league tables) and yes it has all got a lot worse under the current council administration. It does not seem that their policies are working.
Back to the point (a little anyway). Brighton has become dirty, grubby, run down and polluted (look at the pollution league tables) and yes it has all got a lot worse under the current council administration. It does not seem that their policies are working. AlasPoorYorick
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4:00pm Wed 15 May 13

stepford says...

That's the problem with right-wingers. We know our current methods aren't working, but suggest something new and they're too scared and call us mad. We could learn a lot from similar projects in other countries.
That's the problem with right-wingers. We know our current methods aren't working, but suggest something new and they're too scared and call us mad. We could learn a lot from similar projects in other countries. stepford
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7:21am Mon 20 May 13

Pikey-Biker says...

I think it's the same for left wingers as well
I think it's the same for left wingers as well Pikey-Biker
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