New map reveals 20mph zone for Brighton and Hove

The Argus: New map reveals 20mph zone for Brighton and Hove New map reveals 20mph zone for Brighton and Hove

This is the newly revised map which shows which streets will have 20mph limits in the future.

The new speed limits will be imposed across large swathes of Brighton and Hove.

A couple of main roads, originally proposed to have limits reduced, will keep their 30mph limits after opposition from Labour and Conservative councillors.

They include Ditchling Road, Surrenden Road, Braybon Avenue (including Old Farm Road and Graham Avenue) and Carden Avenue (excluding the Carden Avenue service road).


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The group, led by coun Geoffrey Theobald, successfully argued that a “lack of clear mandate from residents” should see the decision deferred for further consultation to take place.

The Conservatives also successfully argued Portland Road should be exempt from the 20mph restrictions for further “monitoring and analysis of road safety and accident data”.

It was decided the decision would also be deferred to a later date.

The Labour and Co-operative Group also issued an amendment stating the section of Surrenden Road and Braybon Avenue linking Preston Drove with Carden Avenue should be exempt.

Phase one of the scheme saw residential streets in the centre of Brighton and Hove reduced to 20mph in April.

A timescale is yet to be decided for the roll out of Phase three, which will include Ovingdean in the east and Blatchington and Portslade Village in the west.

Councillor Pete West, chairman of the Green led environment, transport and sustainability committee, said: “We hope that by making the streets safer and more pleasant environments it will encourage more walking and cycling, especially for local trips.

“This will not only bring road safety benefits, but will also help to improve overall health and well being.”

Responding to questions on whether Wednesday’s amended plans would have an impact on phase three, he said: “Like phase two, decisions on phase three would be based on consultation and road safety issues.

“We are one of the worst cities in the UK for road safety and that is what 20mph is meant to help address.”

He added: “I’m disappointed that we faced late amendments which removed some streets from the 20mph area.

“In Hollingbury we had proposed to give the majority of people the speed limit they wanted for their street.

“Unfortunately we now cannot do that due to the amendments.

“We’re trying to encourage walking and cycling to school and it’s more difficult without 20mph because children have trouble judging the speed of cars.

“People in Surrenden Road and Braybon Avenue will also be disappointed as their support for 20mph in their roads has been ignored.”

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7:15am Fri 13 Dec 13

ButtNuggets says...

Might as well have posted a picture of my arse to go with this article.

Give us a link to the map so we can actually read it.
Might as well have posted a picture of my arse to go with this article. Give us a link to the map so we can actually read it. ButtNuggets

7:16am Fri 13 Dec 13

roystony says...

Lol give me a break kitcat Davey crew. How much money have you spent so far on implementing this failing scheme. Also, considering the budget cuts I'm sure there are more important issues in Brighton and hove the money could be spent on. For example the street drinker problems or changing all the puffin crossings back to pelican.
People of b&h need to unite and get rid of this green scum who are ruining our great city.
Lol give me a break kitcat Davey crew. How much money have you spent so far on implementing this failing scheme. Also, considering the budget cuts I'm sure there are more important issues in Brighton and hove the money could be spent on. For example the street drinker problems or changing all the puffin crossings back to pelican. People of b&h need to unite and get rid of this green scum who are ruining our great city. roystony

7:17am Fri 13 Dec 13

esh lad says...

“In Hollingbury we had proposed to give the majority of people the speed limit they wanted for their street.

I wonder how many people actually filled in the questionnaire sent out by the council,and can the council give us the figures for and against the 20mph zones....and not the Greens idea of a majority!
“In Hollingbury we had proposed to give the majority of people the speed limit they wanted for their street. I wonder how many people actually filled in the questionnaire sent out by the council,and can the council give us the figures for and against the 20mph zones....and not the Greens idea of a majority! esh lad

8:01am Fri 13 Dec 13

monkeymoo says...

Due to the Green's dumb **** road layouts....
....Is there anywhere in Brighton that you can actually go faster than 20mph anyway!!?
Due to the Green's dumb **** road layouts.... ....Is there anywhere in Brighton that you can actually go faster than 20mph anyway!!? monkeymoo

8:10am Fri 13 Dec 13

Kate234 says...

I expect they will be expecting sympathy with their proposals for council tax rises next whilst they continue to waste our money or unwanted, expensive schemes like this.
I expect they will be expecting sympathy with their proposals for council tax rises next whilst they continue to waste our money or unwanted, expensive schemes like this. Kate234

8:25am Fri 13 Dec 13

hoveguyactually says...

And what about the gridlock at the Seven Dials, thanks to the Greens' crazy interference? So much for all that talk about clean air. They have made it far worse.
Driving from a side road into Old Shoreham Road is a totally mad experience. The vastly expensive raised (!) cycle track means that vehicles either have to drive over it, or drive right over to the other side of the road, when turning left, something that can only be achieved if there are no other vehicles coming along.
As for "making the streets safer", councillor Pete West has clearly not done much walking around the city lately. The preponderance of cyclists riding on pavements, going through red traffic lights, and also in the wrong direction, is making walking a really hazardous experience. And it is no less dangerous for drivers. Yet again, yesterday, I saw one of them speeding down a hill, against vehicles, coming round a corner. He was very lucky not to have been hit by them. Safer?
And what about the gridlock at the Seven Dials, thanks to the Greens' crazy interference? So much for all that talk about clean air. They have made it far worse. Driving from a side road into Old Shoreham Road is a totally mad experience. The vastly expensive raised (!) cycle track means that vehicles either have to drive over it, or drive right over to the other side of the road, when turning left, something that can only be achieved if there are no other vehicles coming along. As for "making the streets safer", councillor Pete West has clearly not done much walking around the city lately. The preponderance of cyclists riding on pavements, going through red traffic lights, and also in the wrong direction, is making walking a really hazardous experience. And it is no less dangerous for drivers. Yet again, yesterday, I saw one of them speeding down a hill, against vehicles, coming round a corner. He was very lucky not to have been hit by them. Safer? hoveguyactually

8:38am Fri 13 Dec 13

JackStraw says...

"Ovingdean in the west and Blatchington and Portslade Village in the east" - really?
"Ovingdean in the west and Blatchington and Portslade Village in the east" - really? JackStraw

8:49am Fri 13 Dec 13

Quiterie says...

This whole thing has turned into a complete shambles. If the evidence regarding 20mph speed limits is so compelling in terms of road safety, we should all have 20mph speed limits. If there's no evidence it improves road safety we should all have 30mph speed limits.

What we've ended up with is a complete hotchpotch where individual streets have been allowed to make their own minds up. The current proposals make no sense and are illogical.

Look at Patcham where half the streets are 20mph and half are 30mph. Where's the sense in that?

It should have been all or nothing. This whole thing has turned into a complete fiasco.
This whole thing has turned into a complete shambles. If the evidence regarding 20mph speed limits is so compelling in terms of road safety, we should all have 20mph speed limits. If there's no evidence it improves road safety we should all have 30mph speed limits. What we've ended up with is a complete hotchpotch where individual streets have been allowed to make their own minds up. The current proposals make no sense and are illogical. Look at Patcham where half the streets are 20mph and half are 30mph. Where's the sense in that? It should have been all or nothing. This whole thing has turned into a complete fiasco. Quiterie

8:50am Fri 13 Dec 13

ARMANA says...

That map dosnt apply to me, ok,
That map dosnt apply to me, ok, ARMANA

9:15am Fri 13 Dec 13

Read the detail says...

Pleasing to see that the Conservative and Labour groups have brought common sense to the proposal. That the Green party were trying to force the expansion of the scheme through without a proper evaluation and public debate on the success or otherwise of phase 1 was a disgrace. The Department of Transport in their technical paper agree that lower speeds increase atmospheric pollution they also state that there is no evidence that 20 mph zones increase walking and cycling. The Greens claim that 20 mph reduces accidents but refuse to release the raw data to support their claims.

I far when this is all over we will still have streets festooned with 20 mph signs and speed bumps that are just ignored
Pleasing to see that the Conservative and Labour groups have brought common sense to the proposal. That the Green party were trying to force the expansion of the scheme through without a proper evaluation and public debate on the success or otherwise of phase 1 was a disgrace. The Department of Transport in their technical paper agree that lower speeds increase atmospheric pollution they also state that there is no evidence that 20 mph zones increase walking and cycling. The Greens claim that 20 mph reduces accidents but refuse to release the raw data to support their claims. I far when this is all over we will still have streets festooned with 20 mph signs and speed bumps that are just ignored Read the detail

9:22am Fri 13 Dec 13

jonnydagger says...

CLASSIC ARGUS journalism, maybe you should just let Latest 7 take over.. they are useless too but at least they have CLICAKBLE LINKS.. How is anyone meant to read that map you twits? and Ovingdean in the West... researched and written by a student as usual
CLASSIC ARGUS journalism, maybe you should just let Latest 7 take over.. they are useless too but at least they have CLICAKBLE LINKS.. How is anyone meant to read that map you twits? and Ovingdean in the West... researched and written by a student as usual jonnydagger

9:26am Fri 13 Dec 13

pachallis says...

JackStraw wrote:
"Ovingdean in the west and Blatchington and Portslade Village in the east" - really?
And Portslade Village was part of the original disastrous trial - does this mean we will, at last, get a chance to reverse the insane limits they put in.

For example there is a single lane side road off the 20 mph zone with a 30 mph sign - the road is about 100 yds long so you couldn't accelerate up to 30 mph and slow down in time.

In another area there is a 20 mph zone that increases to 30 mph just before a school.

These irresponsible idiots in the green-controlled transport committee must draw coloured lines on maps and said "make it so" without ever going to the areas involved. I also blame the council workers for not taking their leaders to task and just doing what their "leaders" told them to do.

They all need to come out of the ivory towers and see the insanity of what they are introducing in the name of "sustainability".

Does anyone know what the greens mean by "sustainability"? IMHO buses and taxis can be just as bad, if not worse, than private motor vehicles.
[quote][p][bold]JackStraw[/bold] wrote: "Ovingdean in the west and Blatchington and Portslade Village in the east" - really?[/p][/quote]And Portslade Village was part of the original disastrous trial - does this mean we will, at last, get a chance to reverse the insane limits they put in. For example there is a single lane side road off the 20 mph zone with a 30 mph sign - the road is about 100 yds long so you couldn't accelerate up to 30 mph and slow down in time. In another area there is a 20 mph zone that increases to 30 mph just before a school. These irresponsible idiots in the green-controlled transport committee must draw coloured lines on maps and said "make it so" without ever going to the areas involved. I also blame the council workers for not taking their leaders to task and just doing what their "leaders" told them to do. They all need to come out of the ivory towers and see the insanity of what they are introducing in the name of "sustainability". Does anyone know what the greens mean by "sustainability"? IMHO buses and taxis can be just as bad, if not worse, than private motor vehicles. pachallis

9:52am Fri 13 Dec 13

Cgull says...

When will we ever read a comment from a Green councillor that isn't negative and backward thinking?
The world hasn't ended, it isn't going to end, so stop all this stroopy teenager stuff Greens, and grow up.
May 2015 really can't come quick enough.
When will we ever read a comment from a Green councillor that isn't negative and backward thinking? The world hasn't ended, it isn't going to end, so stop all this stroopy teenager stuff Greens, and grow up. May 2015 really can't come quick enough. Cgull

10:05am Fri 13 Dec 13

p a t r i c k says...

I am delighted by the lowering of the speed limits to 20 mph.

Because of this excellent Green policy I will be voting Green in the local council elections for the first time in 2015.

I think that all parents who are concerned about the safety of their children in their street will support a lowering of the speed limit in their own street.

Pedestrians and cyclists have a right to be able to use city without fear of being killed by car or lorry drivers.
I am delighted by the lowering of the speed limits to 20 mph. Because of this excellent Green policy I will be voting Green in the local council elections for the first time in 2015. I think that all parents who are concerned about the safety of their children in their street will support a lowering of the speed limit in their own street. Pedestrians and cyclists have a right to be able to use city without fear of being killed by car or lorry drivers. p a t r i c k

10:05am Fri 13 Dec 13

Crystal Ball says...

For "consultation" read "complete and utter pig-headed refusal to accept public opinion and common sense".

Rumour has it disgruntled residents will be building a gallows in Grand Avenue...
For "consultation" read "complete and utter pig-headed refusal to accept public opinion and common sense". Rumour has it disgruntled residents will be building a gallows in Grand Avenue... Crystal Ball

10:10am Fri 13 Dec 13

pachallis says...

p a t r i c k wrote:
I am delighted by the lowering of the speed limits to 20 mph.

Because of this excellent Green policy I will be voting Green in the local council elections for the first time in 2015.

I think that all parents who are concerned about the safety of their children in their street will support a lowering of the speed limit in their own street.

Pedestrians and cyclists have a right to be able to use city without fear of being killed by car or lorry drivers.
@p a t r i c k - do you just cut and paste the same inane comments to every Argus item on 20 mph limits?
[quote][p][bold]p a t r i c k[/bold] wrote: I am delighted by the lowering of the speed limits to 20 mph. Because of this excellent Green policy I will be voting Green in the local council elections for the first time in 2015. I think that all parents who are concerned about the safety of their children in their street will support a lowering of the speed limit in their own street. Pedestrians and cyclists have a right to be able to use city without fear of being killed by car or lorry drivers.[/p][/quote]@p a t r i c k - do you just cut and paste the same inane comments to every Argus item on 20 mph limits? pachallis

10:12am Fri 13 Dec 13

Eugenius says...

20mph zones are being introduced by councils of all political hues up and down the council, because the evidence is that they plainly save lives. It's not as radical as people think.
20mph zones are being introduced by councils of all political hues up and down the council, because the evidence is that they plainly save lives. It's not as radical as people think. Eugenius

11:03am Fri 13 Dec 13

Ambo Guy says...

Yet again The Greens ask people what they think and then totally ignore them if they don't give them the answers they want.

Get this bunch of jokers out.
Yet again The Greens ask people what they think and then totally ignore them if they don't give them the answers they want. Get this bunch of jokers out. Ambo Guy

11:21am Fri 13 Dec 13

lonegull says...

I think a proper study of the effects of cycling on pollution should be carried. Too many cyclists commute to work thinking aren't I wonderful travelling to work under my own steam creating zero pollution. The truth is that all the cyclists have to be negotiated by motorists causing cars too break, accelerate and get caught in congestion trying to pass them. I would suggest the net affect of this in terms of pollution is going to be the equivalent of making that same journey many times by car.
Don't get me started on the raised cycle lanes. The carbon produced in creating them and from the congestion it caused would be collossal. The whole thing will be crumbling and need replacing long before it ever becomes carbon neutral. If they want to save us all from global warming why are they doing more to create it than any council before.
I think a proper study of the effects of cycling on pollution should be carried. Too many cyclists commute to work thinking aren't I wonderful travelling to work under my own steam creating zero pollution. The truth is that all the cyclists have to be negotiated by motorists causing cars too break, accelerate and get caught in congestion trying to pass them. I would suggest the net affect of this in terms of pollution is going to be the equivalent of making that same journey many times by car. Don't get me started on the raised cycle lanes. The carbon produced in creating them and from the congestion it caused would be collossal. The whole thing will be crumbling and need replacing long before it ever becomes carbon neutral. If they want to save us all from global warming why are they doing more to create it than any council before. lonegull

11:38am Fri 13 Dec 13

pachallis says...

Eugenius wrote:
20mph zones are being introduced by councils of all political hues up and down the council, because the evidence is that they plainly save lives. It's not as radical as people think.
@Eugenius - there is nothing wrong with 20 mph zones in the right places. Where they have been introduced (AFAIK) in other towns and cities they are restricted to sensible areas where they really offer benefits - such as shopping areas, by schools and parks.

You and the rest of the idiotic idealistic green supporters just need to realise that blanket implementations as you and the green controlled transport committee wanted to force through are not the answer, and that democracy rules.

As well as slowing traffic you also need to look at educating cyclists and pedestrians to obey the highway code and take responsibility for their own safety - rather than just walking out into the road without looking and then blaming a driver that hits them.

How about getting cyclists to get proper training?

Of course "responsibility" - yet another word the greens don't know the meaning of. Roll on May 2015!
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: 20mph zones are being introduced by councils of all political hues up and down the council, because the evidence is that they plainly save lives. It's not as radical as people think.[/p][/quote]@Eugenius - there is nothing wrong with 20 mph zones in the right places. Where they have been introduced (AFAIK) in other towns and cities they are restricted to sensible areas where they really offer benefits - such as shopping areas, by schools and parks. You and the rest of the idiotic idealistic green supporters just need to realise that blanket implementations as you and the green controlled transport committee wanted to force through are not the answer, and that democracy rules. As well as slowing traffic you also need to look at educating cyclists and pedestrians to obey the highway code and take responsibility for their own safety - rather than just walking out into the road without looking and then blaming a driver that hits them. How about getting cyclists to get proper training? Of course "responsibility" - yet another word the greens don't know the meaning of. Roll on May 2015! pachallis

11:43am Fri 13 Dec 13

roystony says...

p a t r i c k wrote:
I am delighted by the lowering of the speed limits to 20 mph.

Because of this excellent Green policy I will be voting Green in the local council elections for the first time in 2015.

I think that all parents who are concerned about the safety of their children in their street will support a lowering of the speed limit in their own street.

Pedestrians and cyclists have a right to be able to use city without fear of being killed by car or lorry drivers.
Shut up Kitcat
[quote][p][bold]p a t r i c k[/bold] wrote: I am delighted by the lowering of the speed limits to 20 mph. Because of this excellent Green policy I will be voting Green in the local council elections for the first time in 2015. I think that all parents who are concerned about the safety of their children in their street will support a lowering of the speed limit in their own street. Pedestrians and cyclists have a right to be able to use city without fear of being killed by car or lorry drivers.[/p][/quote]Shut up Kitcat roystony

11:44am Fri 13 Dec 13

roystony says...

Eugenius wrote:
20mph zones are being introduced by councils of all political hues up and down the council, because the evidence is that they plainly save lives. It's not as radical as people think.
You must be Kitcats wife
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: 20mph zones are being introduced by councils of all political hues up and down the council, because the evidence is that they plainly save lives. It's not as radical as people think.[/p][/quote]You must be Kitcats wife roystony

11:57am Fri 13 Dec 13

Telscombe Cliffy says...

I got my microscope out to read the map but still can't see 'phase 2' on it. Can see one phase 1 and two phase 3s.
I got my microscope out to read the map but still can't see 'phase 2' on it. Can see one phase 1 and two phase 3s. Telscombe Cliffy

12:02pm Fri 13 Dec 13

s_james says...

pachallis wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
20mph zones are being introduced by councils of all political hues up and down the council, because the evidence is that they plainly save lives. It's not as radical as people think.
@Eugenius - there is nothing wrong with 20 mph zones in the right places. Where they have been introduced (AFAIK) in other towns and cities they are restricted to sensible areas where they really offer benefits - such as shopping areas, by schools and parks.

You and the rest of the idiotic idealistic green supporters just need to realise that blanket implementations as you and the green controlled transport committee wanted to force through are not the answer, and that democracy rules.

As well as slowing traffic you also need to look at educating cyclists and pedestrians to obey the highway code and take responsibility for their own safety - rather than just walking out into the road without looking and then blaming a driver that hits them.

How about getting cyclists to get proper training?

Of course "responsibility
" - yet another word the greens don't know the meaning of. Roll on May 2015!
I have no strong opinion either way on 20mph but out of curiosity I checked out your comment with a quick google and its not true. Just using the first few google results:

Bristol: “In July 2012, following a successful pilot scheme, Bristol City Council voted to bring in a 20 mph speed limit throughout Bristol. All roads except dual carriageways, 40 mph and 50 mph roads will be considered for the new 20 mph speed limit.”

Birmingham: “The 20mph speed limits would be introduced mainly on residential roads, which account for around 90 per cent of the roads in the city.”

Cambridge: “We are proposing to reduce the speed limit on most residential and shopping streets in Cambridge to 20mph.”
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: 20mph zones are being introduced by councils of all political hues up and down the council, because the evidence is that they plainly save lives. It's not as radical as people think.[/p][/quote]@Eugenius - there is nothing wrong with 20 mph zones in the right places. Where they have been introduced (AFAIK) in other towns and cities they are restricted to sensible areas where they really offer benefits - such as shopping areas, by schools and parks. You and the rest of the idiotic idealistic green supporters just need to realise that blanket implementations as you and the green controlled transport committee wanted to force through are not the answer, and that democracy rules. As well as slowing traffic you also need to look at educating cyclists and pedestrians to obey the highway code and take responsibility for their own safety - rather than just walking out into the road without looking and then blaming a driver that hits them. How about getting cyclists to get proper training? Of course "responsibility " - yet another word the greens don't know the meaning of. Roll on May 2015![/p][/quote]I have no strong opinion either way on 20mph but out of curiosity I checked out your comment with a quick google and its not true. Just using the first few google results: Bristol: “In July 2012, following a successful pilot scheme, Bristol City Council voted to bring in a 20 mph speed limit throughout Bristol. All roads except dual carriageways, 40 mph and 50 mph roads will be considered for the new 20 mph speed limit.” Birmingham: “The 20mph speed limits would be introduced mainly on residential roads, which account for around 90 per cent of the roads in the city.” Cambridge: “We are proposing to reduce the speed limit on most residential and shopping streets in Cambridge to 20mph.” s_james

12:25pm Fri 13 Dec 13

SteveUK says...

A wonderful idea. Maybe it will help to persuade motorists to use the cheap, convenient and plentiful park and ride facilities that have been provided.

Could The Argus please publish a map of their locations? I'm having difficulty finding them at the moment.
A wonderful idea. Maybe it will help to persuade motorists to use the cheap, convenient and plentiful park and ride facilities that have been provided. Could The Argus please publish a map of their locations? I'm having difficulty finding them at the moment. SteveUK

12:30pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Athena says...

When we are driving about, how are we supposed to remember which roads are 20mph and which are 30mph? Ah, from all the expensive little signs which will be made and put up, hidden behind trees. Life was easier when everywhere was 30mph. Now I spend all my time looking at my speedo and ignoring the traffic.
When we are driving about, how are we supposed to remember which roads are 20mph and which are 30mph? Ah, from all the expensive little signs which will be made and put up, hidden behind trees. Life was easier when everywhere was 30mph. Now I spend all my time looking at my speedo and ignoring the traffic. Athena

12:52pm Fri 13 Dec 13

All 9 of me says...

has anyone else noticed it looks like a willy right there in the middle ?
has anyone else noticed it looks like a willy right there in the middle ? All 9 of me

12:54pm Fri 13 Dec 13

All 9 of me says...

ButtNuggets wrote:
Might as well have posted a picture of my arse to go with this article.

Give us a link to the map so we can actually read it.
http://www.brighton-
hove.gov.uk/sites/br
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eighbourhood%20Bound
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[quote][p][bold]ButtNuggets[/bold] wrote: Might as well have posted a picture of my arse to go with this article. Give us a link to the map so we can actually read it.[/p][/quote]http://www.brighton- hove.gov.uk/sites/br ighton-hove.gov.uk/f iles/Brighton%20%26% 20Hove_Phase%202%20n eighbourhood%20Bound aries.pdf All 9 of me

1:05pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Carpyg says...

and i shall be completely ignoring this paethic rule. I really cannot wait to vote these out of toich loonies out of office.
and i shall be completely ignoring this paethic rule. I really cannot wait to vote these out of toich loonies out of office. Carpyg

1:15pm Fri 13 Dec 13

pachallis says...

s_james wrote:
pachallis wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
20mph zones are being introduced by councils of all political hues up and down the council, because the evidence is that they plainly save lives. It's not as radical as people think.
@Eugenius - there is nothing wrong with 20 mph zones in the right places. Where they have been introduced (AFAIK) in other towns and cities they are restricted to sensible areas where they really offer benefits - such as shopping areas, by schools and parks.

You and the rest of the idiotic idealistic green supporters just need to realise that blanket implementations as you and the green controlled transport committee wanted to force through are not the answer, and that democracy rules.

As well as slowing traffic you also need to look at educating cyclists and pedestrians to obey the highway code and take responsibility for their own safety - rather than just walking out into the road without looking and then blaming a driver that hits them.

How about getting cyclists to get proper training?

Of course "responsibility

" - yet another word the greens don't know the meaning of. Roll on May 2015!
I have no strong opinion either way on 20mph but out of curiosity I checked out your comment with a quick google and its not true. Just using the first few google results:

Bristol: “In July 2012, following a successful pilot scheme, Bristol City Council voted to bring in a 20 mph speed limit throughout Bristol. All roads except dual carriageways, 40 mph and 50 mph roads will be considered for the new 20 mph speed limit.”

Birmingham: “The 20mph speed limits would be introduced mainly on residential roads, which account for around 90 per cent of the roads in the city.”

Cambridge: “We are proposing to reduce the speed limit on most residential and shopping streets in Cambridge to 20mph.”
@s_james- thanks for this - so mostly this is for residential streets / shopping areas - which, I should have, said I have no real problem with. It's the main arterial roads/bus routes where, IMHO, we don't need such limits.

I remember when I was young, my Mum telling me to be careful crossing the busy roads - this is no real difference. Pedestrians, cyclists, bus, car and lorry drivers have to take care on roads and take responsibility for their actions.
[quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: 20mph zones are being introduced by councils of all political hues up and down the council, because the evidence is that they plainly save lives. It's not as radical as people think.[/p][/quote]@Eugenius - there is nothing wrong with 20 mph zones in the right places. Where they have been introduced (AFAIK) in other towns and cities they are restricted to sensible areas where they really offer benefits - such as shopping areas, by schools and parks. You and the rest of the idiotic idealistic green supporters just need to realise that blanket implementations as you and the green controlled transport committee wanted to force through are not the answer, and that democracy rules. As well as slowing traffic you also need to look at educating cyclists and pedestrians to obey the highway code and take responsibility for their own safety - rather than just walking out into the road without looking and then blaming a driver that hits them. How about getting cyclists to get proper training? Of course "responsibility " - yet another word the greens don't know the meaning of. Roll on May 2015![/p][/quote]I have no strong opinion either way on 20mph but out of curiosity I checked out your comment with a quick google and its not true. Just using the first few google results: Bristol: “In July 2012, following a successful pilot scheme, Bristol City Council voted to bring in a 20 mph speed limit throughout Bristol. All roads except dual carriageways, 40 mph and 50 mph roads will be considered for the new 20 mph speed limit.” Birmingham: “The 20mph speed limits would be introduced mainly on residential roads, which account for around 90 per cent of the roads in the city.” Cambridge: “We are proposing to reduce the speed limit on most residential and shopping streets in Cambridge to 20mph.”[/p][/quote]@s_james- thanks for this - so mostly this is for residential streets / shopping areas - which, I should have, said I have no real problem with. It's the main arterial roads/bus routes where, IMHO, we don't need such limits. I remember when I was young, my Mum telling me to be careful crossing the busy roads - this is no real difference. Pedestrians, cyclists, bus, car and lorry drivers have to take care on roads and take responsibility for their actions. pachallis

1:35pm Fri 13 Dec 13

taman says...

56 percent voted against it brighton and hove is a dictatorship
56 percent voted against it brighton and hove is a dictatorship taman

2:37pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Mark63 says...

Some sense for Surrenden Road... Why is it the Greens want to slow us down to 19th century speeds? How long before they insist we return to horseback? Antiquated one policy council ruining the place in their one-term in office. Here's hoping that sense follows when we have voted the idiots out!
Some sense for Surrenden Road... Why is it the Greens want to slow us down to 19th century speeds? How long before they insist we return to horseback? Antiquated one policy council ruining the place in their one-term in office. Here's hoping that sense follows when we have voted the idiots out! Mark63

2:51pm Fri 13 Dec 13

The Prophet of Doom says...

How long before glory-hound Lucas is photographed pointing to a random part of the map complete with a smug look on her face?
How long before glory-hound Lucas is photographed pointing to a random part of the map complete with a smug look on her face? The Prophet of Doom

3:10pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

All 9 of me wrote:
ButtNuggets wrote:
Might as well have posted a picture of my arse to go with this article.

Give us a link to the map so we can actually read it.
http://www.brighton-

hove.gov.uk/sites/br

ighton-hove.gov.uk/f

iles/Brighton%20%26%

20Hove_Phase%202%20n

eighbourhood%20Bound

aries.pdf
Good old Gaz Scotty. Festering and can't help yourself. Presume you are blocked on your usual name and dare I suggest not before time....

Waster and laughable
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ButtNuggets[/bold] wrote: Might as well have posted a picture of my arse to go with this article. Give us a link to the map so we can actually read it.[/p][/quote]http://www.brighton- hove.gov.uk/sites/br ighton-hove.gov.uk/f iles/Brighton%20%26% 20Hove_Phase%202%20n eighbourhood%20Bound aries.pdf[/p][/quote]Good old Gaz Scotty. Festering and can't help yourself. Presume you are blocked on your usual name and dare I suggest not before time.... Waster and laughable Somethingsarejustwrong

3:12pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Telscombe Cliffy says...

Mark63 wrote:
Some sense for Surrenden Road... Why is it the Greens want to slow us down to 19th century speeds? How long before they insist we return to horseback? Antiquated one policy council ruining the place in their one-term in office. Here's hoping that sense follows when we have voted the idiots out!
Don't forget the side benefits-Cat food , mattress stuffing, glue, burgers and manure
[quote][p][bold]Mark63[/bold] wrote: Some sense for Surrenden Road... Why is it the Greens want to slow us down to 19th century speeds? How long before they insist we return to horseback? Antiquated one policy council ruining the place in their one-term in office. Here's hoping that sense follows when we have voted the idiots out![/p][/quote]Don't forget the side benefits-Cat food , mattress stuffing, glue, burgers and manure Telscombe Cliffy

3:40pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Quiterie says...

All 9 of me wrote:
has anyone else noticed it looks like a willy right there in the middle ?
If your John Thomas looks like that you need to see a doctor mate.
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: has anyone else noticed it looks like a willy right there in the middle ?[/p][/quote]If your John Thomas looks like that you need to see a doctor mate. Quiterie

6:24pm Fri 13 Dec 13

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

All 9 of me wrote:
has anyone else noticed it looks like a willy right there in the middle ?
We think it reflects the **** up that we have made in not listening to the people of Brighton
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: has anyone else noticed it looks like a willy right there in the middle ?[/p][/quote]We think it reflects the **** up that we have made in not listening to the people of Brighton I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

7:38pm Fri 13 Dec 13

NickBtn says...

p a t r i c k wrote:
I am delighted by the lowering of the speed limits to 20 mph.

Because of this excellent Green policy I will be voting Green in the local council elections for the first time in 2015.

I think that all parents who are concerned about the safety of their children in their street will support a lowering of the speed limit in their own street.

Pedestrians and cyclists have a right to be able to use city without fear of being killed by car or lorry drivers.
Even the council's own figures (which seem very biased on many issues) claim an average slowing down of 1.2mph. I'm not sure that makes anyone much safer. Unfortunately, people may think they are and accidents/injuries could go up (as has happened in other 20mph blanket areas)

I support 20mph around schools and other major danger areas. Also along narrow residential streets. However not on dual carriageways or bus routes. Amazingly the greens wanted to make public transport less attractive by slowing buses - handily with the support of the friends of the earth and other political parties many of the proposed bus routes remain at 30mph. Not all unfortunately.

Why does this matter if most people ignore the new 30mph signs (as the council's own figures show)? Indeed on a quarter of the roads average speeds have gone up! Well it's a lot of money to waste and it means that speeds aren't lowered where they really need to be. But, instead of getting things right, the flawed phase 1 is being rolled out before any lessons are learnt
[quote][p][bold]p a t r i c k[/bold] wrote: I am delighted by the lowering of the speed limits to 20 mph. Because of this excellent Green policy I will be voting Green in the local council elections for the first time in 2015. I think that all parents who are concerned about the safety of their children in their street will support a lowering of the speed limit in their own street. Pedestrians and cyclists have a right to be able to use city without fear of being killed by car or lorry drivers.[/p][/quote]Even the council's own figures (which seem very biased on many issues) claim an average slowing down of 1.2mph. I'm not sure that makes anyone much safer. Unfortunately, people may think they are and accidents/injuries could go up (as has happened in other 20mph blanket areas) I support 20mph around schools and other major danger areas. Also along narrow residential streets. However not on dual carriageways or bus routes. Amazingly the greens wanted to make public transport less attractive by slowing buses - handily with the support of the friends of the earth and other political parties many of the proposed bus routes remain at 30mph. Not all unfortunately. Why does this matter if most people ignore the new 30mph signs (as the council's own figures show)? Indeed on a quarter of the roads average speeds have gone up! Well it's a lot of money to waste and it means that speeds aren't lowered where they really need to be. But, instead of getting things right, the flawed phase 1 is being rolled out before any lessons are learnt NickBtn

8:17pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Vigilia says...

I understand Phase Three will require a man with a red flag to walk ahead of all vehicles propelled by the internal combustion engine throughout Brighton & Hove.
I understand Phase Three will require a man with a red flag to walk ahead of all vehicles propelled by the internal combustion engine throughout Brighton & Hove. Vigilia

8:39pm Fri 13 Dec 13

hubby says...

20mph is much faster than walking and perfectly adequate.
There will be hardly any road accidents and children will be safer crossing roads.
Chill out and enjoy the environment.
20mph is much faster than walking and perfectly adequate. There will be hardly any road accidents and children will be safer crossing roads. Chill out and enjoy the environment. hubby

8:51pm Fri 13 Dec 13

HJarrs says...

So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety.

It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.
So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety. It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015. HJarrs

9:47pm Fri 13 Dec 13

FatherTed11 says...

hubby wrote:
20mph is much faster than walking and perfectly adequate.
There will be hardly any road accidents and children will be safer crossing roads.
Chill out and enjoy the environment.
Perfectly adequate for what? A weekly trip to the meditation centre? If you eco-nazis actually had a job or a real life, you would realise that it isn't adequate for this century.
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: 20mph is much faster than walking and perfectly adequate. There will be hardly any road accidents and children will be safer crossing roads. Chill out and enjoy the environment.[/p][/quote]Perfectly adequate for what? A weekly trip to the meditation centre? If you eco-nazis actually had a job or a real life, you would realise that it isn't adequate for this century. FatherTed11

2:28am Sat 14 Dec 13

Mike_the_car_driver says...

roystony wrote:
Lol give me a break kitcat Davey crew. How much money have you spent so far on implementing this failing scheme. Also, considering the budget cuts I'm sure there are more important issues in Brighton and hove the money could be spent on. For example the street drinker problems or changing all the puffin crossings back to pelican.
People of b&h need to unite and get rid of this green scum who are ruining our great city.
I know this sounds dumb, and I should know this seeing as I can drive, but what is the difference between a puffin and pelican crossing?
[quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Lol give me a break kitcat Davey crew. How much money have you spent so far on implementing this failing scheme. Also, considering the budget cuts I'm sure there are more important issues in Brighton and hove the money could be spent on. For example the street drinker problems or changing all the puffin crossings back to pelican. People of b&h need to unite and get rid of this green scum who are ruining our great city.[/p][/quote]I know this sounds dumb, and I should know this seeing as I can drive, but what is the difference between a puffin and pelican crossing? Mike_the_car_driver

4:53am Sat 14 Dec 13

Dave At Home says...

Someone needs to explain to the taxi drivers that 20 means 20 and not 30 or 38mph in the 20 zones.... one got stuck behind me on New Church Road and then made a break for it when there were no oncoming cars but he nearly hit the traffic island and had to cut me up to get back on the left hand side of the road, causing me to break.... of course plod was not interested and suggested I speak to the taxi company concerned and complain directly to them.
Someone needs to explain to the taxi drivers that 20 means 20 and not 30 or 38mph in the 20 zones.... one got stuck behind me on New Church Road and then made a break for it when there were no oncoming cars but he nearly hit the traffic island and had to cut me up to get back on the left hand side of the road, causing me to break.... of course plod was not interested and suggested I speak to the taxi company concerned and complain directly to them. Dave At Home

7:16am Sat 14 Dec 13

fred clause says...

Mike_the_car_driver wrote:
roystony wrote:
Lol give me a break kitcat Davey crew. How much money have you spent so far on implementing this failing scheme. Also, considering the budget cuts I'm sure there are more important issues in Brighton and hove the money could be spent on. For example the street drinker problems or changing all the puffin crossings back to pelican.
People of b&h need to unite and get rid of this green scum who are ruining our great city.
I know this sounds dumb, and I should know this seeing as I can drive, but what is the difference between a puffin and pelican crossing?
A pelican crossing has the green man on the other side so you can see it and the new puffin crossing has the green man on your side and make no noise either so its harder to cross safely.
[quote][p][bold]Mike_the_car_driver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Lol give me a break kitcat Davey crew. How much money have you spent so far on implementing this failing scheme. Also, considering the budget cuts I'm sure there are more important issues in Brighton and hove the money could be spent on. For example the street drinker problems or changing all the puffin crossings back to pelican. People of b&h need to unite and get rid of this green scum who are ruining our great city.[/p][/quote]I know this sounds dumb, and I should know this seeing as I can drive, but what is the difference between a puffin and pelican crossing?[/p][/quote]A pelican crossing has the green man on the other side so you can see it and the new puffin crossing has the green man on your side and make no noise either so its harder to cross safely. fred clause

8:06am Sat 14 Dec 13

Ambo Guy says...

HJarrs wrote:
So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety.

It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.
Yes please roll on May 2015.

Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety. It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.[/p][/quote]Yes please roll on May 2015. Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power. Ambo Guy

11:22am Sat 14 Dec 13

brightonian57 says...

HJarrs wrote:
So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety.

It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.
No HJarrs It has been proved time after time that the council take no notice of the consultation and have consistently lied about the figures.
They have lost the trust of the electorate, the people who voted them in are now long gone.
The sensible and responsible thing is for them to say 'We gave it a go and we admit we just can't do the job' and hand the reigns over to someone who actually knows what to do, and that the electorate trust
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety. It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.[/p][/quote]No HJarrs It has been proved time after time that the council take no notice of the consultation and have consistently lied about the figures. They have lost the trust of the electorate, the people who voted them in are now long gone. The sensible and responsible thing is for them to say 'We gave it a go and we admit we just can't do the job' and hand the reigns over to someone who actually knows what to do, and that the electorate trust brightonian57

12:52pm Sat 14 Dec 13

ARMANA says...

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
All 9 of me wrote:
has anyone else noticed it looks like a willy right there in the middle ?
We think it reflects the **** up that we have made in not listening to the people of Brighton
@ cars, Your the expert in that department, why ask us, Gatling Gob, !!!!
[quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: has anyone else noticed it looks like a willy right there in the middle ?[/p][/quote]We think it reflects the **** up that we have made in not listening to the people of Brighton[/p][/quote]@ cars, Your the expert in that department, why ask us, Gatling Gob, !!!! ARMANA

12:58pm Sat 14 Dec 13

ARMANA says...

Ambo Guy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety.

It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.
Yes please roll on May 2015.

Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.
Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,
[quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety. It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.[/p][/quote]Yes please roll on May 2015. Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.[/p][/quote]Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry, ARMANA

5:05pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Mark63 says...

How do we complain about the ugly 20 signs appearing on lamp-posts and daubed like graffiti on roads (soon to wear away and never be maintained anyway)? I spotted some new signs on Surrenden Road this week - on every other lamp-post - showing a car at a 45 degree angle banked onto a kerb (I'm guessing) - yet another way they have come up with to raise ill-gotten funds from drivers who can't find anywhere to bl**dy park, while expecting people to attend events in Preston Park - how welcoming - how warming - how do I get rid of the lunatics!?!?!!
How do we complain about the ugly 20 signs appearing on lamp-posts and daubed like graffiti on roads (soon to wear away and never be maintained anyway)? I spotted some new signs on Surrenden Road this week - on every other lamp-post - showing a car at a 45 degree angle banked onto a kerb (I'm guessing) - yet another way they have come up with to raise ill-gotten funds from drivers who can't find anywhere to bl**dy park, while expecting people to attend events in Preston Park - how welcoming - how warming - how do I get rid of the lunatics!?!?!! Mark63

6:00pm Sat 14 Dec 13

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

ARMANA wrote:
Ambo Guy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety.

It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.
Yes please roll on May 2015.

Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.
Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,
Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle

Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.
[quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety. It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.[/p][/quote]Yes please roll on May 2015. Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.[/p][/quote]Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,[/p][/quote]Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman. I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

4:28pm Sun 15 Dec 13

ARMANA says...

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
Ambo Guy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety.

It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.
Yes please roll on May 2015.

Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.
Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,
Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle

Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.
You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,
[quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety. It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.[/p][/quote]Yes please roll on May 2015. Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.[/p][/quote]Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,[/p][/quote]Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.[/p][/quote]You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob, ARMANA

6:51am Mon 16 Dec 13

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

ARMANA wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
Ambo Guy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety.

It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.
Yes please roll on May 2015.

Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.
Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,
Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle

Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.
You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,
What a strange comment,

Maybe you should get out a little more instead of doing sordid things to yourself and receiving 'others' in your damp bedsit?
[quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety. It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.[/p][/quote]Yes please roll on May 2015. Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.[/p][/quote]Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,[/p][/quote]Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.[/p][/quote]You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,[/p][/quote]What a strange comment, Maybe you should get out a little more instead of doing sordid things to yourself and receiving 'others' in your damp bedsit? I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

8:55pm Mon 16 Dec 13

ARMANA says...

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
Ambo Guy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety.

It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.
Yes please roll on May 2015.

Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.
Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,
Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle

Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.
You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,
What a strange comment,

Maybe you should get out a little more instead of doing sordid things to yourself and receiving 'others' in your damp bedsit?
Foul Mouth Gatling Gob, just nip along to Saltdean, & just do it,
[quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety. It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.[/p][/quote]Yes please roll on May 2015. Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.[/p][/quote]Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,[/p][/quote]Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.[/p][/quote]You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,[/p][/quote]What a strange comment, Maybe you should get out a little more instead of doing sordid things to yourself and receiving 'others' in your damp bedsit?[/p][/quote]Foul Mouth Gatling Gob, just nip along to Saltdean, & just do it, ARMANA

6:22am Tue 17 Dec 13

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

ARMANA wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
Ambo Guy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety.

It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.
Yes please roll on May 2015.

Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.
Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,
Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle

Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.
You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,
What a strange comment,

Maybe you should get out a little more instead of doing sordid things to yourself and receiving 'others' in your damp bedsit?
Foul Mouth Gatling Gob, just nip along to Saltdean, & just do it,
ARSEMAN - A few hints

- Get out more and broaden your horizons
- Reconsider which side you bat for
- Get work
- Don't disrespect others
- Practice what you preach
[quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety. It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.[/p][/quote]Yes please roll on May 2015. Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.[/p][/quote]Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,[/p][/quote]Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.[/p][/quote]You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,[/p][/quote]What a strange comment, Maybe you should get out a little more instead of doing sordid things to yourself and receiving 'others' in your damp bedsit?[/p][/quote]Foul Mouth Gatling Gob, just nip along to Saltdean, & just do it,[/p][/quote]ARSEMAN - A few hints - Get out more and broaden your horizons - Reconsider which side you bat for - Get work - Don't disrespect others - Practice what you preach I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

4:13pm Tue 17 Dec 13

ARMANA says...

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
Ambo Guy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety.

It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.
Yes please roll on May 2015.

Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.
Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,
Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle

Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.
You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,
What a strange comment,

Maybe you should get out a little more instead of doing sordid things to yourself and receiving 'others' in your damp bedsit?
Foul Mouth Gatling Gob, just nip along to Saltdean, & just do it,
ARSEMAN - A few hints

- Get out more and broaden your horizons
- Reconsider which side you bat for
- Get work
- Don't disrespect others
- Practice what you preach
You should get tested for HIV, Gatling Gob, then again dont,!!
[quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety. It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.[/p][/quote]Yes please roll on May 2015. Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.[/p][/quote]Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,[/p][/quote]Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.[/p][/quote]You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,[/p][/quote]What a strange comment, Maybe you should get out a little more instead of doing sordid things to yourself and receiving 'others' in your damp bedsit?[/p][/quote]Foul Mouth Gatling Gob, just nip along to Saltdean, & just do it,[/p][/quote]ARSEMAN - A few hints - Get out more and broaden your horizons - Reconsider which side you bat for - Get work - Don't disrespect others - Practice what you preach[/p][/quote]You should get tested for HIV, Gatling Gob, then again dont,!! ARMANA

11:27pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Poem58 says...

20mph in residential areas is a good idea as kids and dogs can occasionally run out from between parked cars, etc.

But come on Argus.... that map is unreadable.

Ridiculous!
20mph in residential areas is a good idea as kids and dogs can occasionally run out from between parked cars, etc. But come on Argus.... that map is unreadable. Ridiculous! Poem58

2:28pm Wed 18 Dec 13

TheDrive says...

Anything that is designed to reduce casualties HAS to be a good thing. How can anybody dispute that? What if it stops just one child getting killed? I drive in the town and yes it's painfully slow but safety is more important. Leave more time - drive slower and arrive relaxed. It's that easy.
Anything that is designed to reduce casualties HAS to be a good thing. How can anybody dispute that? What if it stops just one child getting killed? I drive in the town and yes it's painfully slow but safety is more important. Leave more time - drive slower and arrive relaxed. It's that easy. TheDrive

9:48am Thu 19 Dec 13

Brighton1000 says...

ARMANA wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
Ambo Guy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety.

It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.
Yes please roll on May 2015.

Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.
Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,
Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle

Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.
You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,
What a strange comment,

Maybe you should get out a little more instead of doing sordid things to yourself and receiving 'others' in your damp bedsit?
Foul Mouth Gatling Gob, just nip along to Saltdean, & just do it,
ARSEMAN - A few hints

- Get out more and broaden your horizons
- Reconsider which side you bat for
- Get work
- Don't disrespect others
- Practice what you preach
You should get tested for HIV, Gatling Gob, then again dont,!!
Tested for HIV? Seriously? What a pathetic, pathetic thing to write! Just shown yourself to be a complete pric im afraid, But a good insight into how the minds of our council seem to work....
[quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety. It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.[/p][/quote]Yes please roll on May 2015. Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.[/p][/quote]Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,[/p][/quote]Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.[/p][/quote]You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,[/p][/quote]What a strange comment, Maybe you should get out a little more instead of doing sordid things to yourself and receiving 'others' in your damp bedsit?[/p][/quote]Foul Mouth Gatling Gob, just nip along to Saltdean, & just do it,[/p][/quote]ARSEMAN - A few hints - Get out more and broaden your horizons - Reconsider which side you bat for - Get work - Don't disrespect others - Practice what you preach[/p][/quote]You should get tested for HIV, Gatling Gob, then again dont,!![/p][/quote]Tested for HIV? Seriously? What a pathetic, pathetic thing to write! Just shown yourself to be a complete pric im afraid, But a good insight into how the minds of our council seem to work.... Brighton1000

3:30pm Thu 19 Dec 13

ARMANA says...

Brighton1000 wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
Ambo Guy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety.

It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.
Yes please roll on May 2015.

Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.
Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,
Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle

Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.
You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,
What a strange comment,

Maybe you should get out a little more instead of doing sordid things to yourself and receiving 'others' in your damp bedsit?
Foul Mouth Gatling Gob, just nip along to Saltdean, & just do it,
ARSEMAN - A few hints

- Get out more and broaden your horizons
- Reconsider which side you bat for
- Get work
- Don't disrespect others
- Practice what you preach
You should get tested for HIV, Gatling Gob, then again dont,!!
Tested for HIV? Seriously? What a pathetic, pathetic thing to write! Just shown yourself to be a complete pric im afraid, But a good insight into how the minds of our council seem to work....
so ur hiv, ok, soz,
[quote][p][bold]Brighton1000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: So, the council took notice of the consultation (funny, we are constantly told they don't!) which showed many wanting 20mph limits in their areas despite determined and misleading campaigning by vested interests and the B&H establishment backing Chain the Pedestrian, I mean unchain the motorist. Large parts of B&H will become 20mph zones, lots of people in other areas will be asking why they are not included. I also love the logic of the antis; 20mph zones should be in shopping areas, residential streets and outside schools and hospitals, because this is precisely what was proposed and laughably Portland Rd falls into this category but Labour and Consrvatives are more interested in sniffing around for votes than road safety. It is looking like the city centre 20mph zone will demonstrate big reductions for casualties, which I am sure we will all be pleased about. If this is the case, it's going to be a vote winner. Roll on May 2015.[/p][/quote]Yes please roll on May 2015. Carefull what you wish for Councillor Jarrs. Rest assured your loony Marxist lot will be consigned to the scrap heap after May 2015 and will come to be regarded as a good lesson as to why unproven and inexperienced parties cannot be trusted in power.[/p][/quote]Well said Ambo Guy, Most of these Green commenters, wont be bringing any grandchildren home to there parents, na wot i mean arry,[/p][/quote]Whereas, I suspect you will never have the opportunity to move beyond a 5 finger shuffle Keep knocking them out arseman, keep knocking them out and don't forget its ok to give as well as receive, if you know wot I mean arseman.[/p][/quote]You havnt the guts to throw yourself off a cliff Gating Gob,[/p][/quote]What a strange comment, Maybe you should get out a little more instead of doing sordid things to yourself and receiving 'others' in your damp bedsit?[/p][/quote]Foul Mouth Gatling Gob, just nip along to Saltdean, & just do it,[/p][/quote]ARSEMAN - A few hints - Get out more and broaden your horizons - Reconsider which side you bat for - Get work - Don't disrespect others - Practice what you preach[/p][/quote]You should get tested for HIV, Gatling Gob, then again dont,!![/p][/quote]Tested for HIV? Seriously? What a pathetic, pathetic thing to write! Just shown yourself to be a complete pric im afraid, But a good insight into how the minds of our council seem to work....[/p][/quote]so ur hiv, ok, soz, ARMANA

8:26pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Nellie's Grandson says...

ButtNuggets wrote:
Might as well have posted a picture of my arse to go with this article.

Give us a link to the map so we can actually read it.
It looks like there is a picture of something hidden in the map!
[quote][p][bold]ButtNuggets[/bold] wrote: Might as well have posted a picture of my arse to go with this article. Give us a link to the map so we can actually read it.[/p][/quote]It looks like there is a picture of something hidden in the map! Nellie's Grandson

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