Bid to save Brighton Speed Trials is gaining speed

The Argus: Bid to save Brighton Speed Trials is gaining speed Bid to save Brighton Speed Trials is gaining speed

A petition to save the world’s longest-running motorsports event is gaining momentum.

It went from 0 to 2,000 in less than 24 hours and has now reached 5,824.

The first Brighton Speed Trials took place in Madeira Drive, Brighton, in 1905.

But organisers say they fear for its future as Brighton and Hove City Council has not yet accepted an application to host the event in 2014.

Admitting concerns about the safety of the event following the death of a competitor in 2012, leading councillors said they had to weigh up all the options before making a decision.

Fearing the worst, a petition has been set up on the council’s website – and within its first 24 hours it received more than 2,000 signatures.

Started by Ruth Reynolds, of Brighton and Hove Motor Club, the petition said: “The end of the Speed Trials will be the end of an era for Brighton.

“It will have a major negative financial impact on tourism and trade in the area and mean the loss of one of the highlights on Brighton’s seafront entertainment calendar. Please sign the petition and help keep the Speed Trials going.”

Following the death of mother-of-three Charlotte Tagg, this year’s event was cancelled while a coroner investigated.

At the inquest the jury heard how vehicles were travelling at 150mph on a road with a 30mph limit.

In its place the council agreed the seafront could be used for the inaugural Paint Run.

Speaking at a recent council meeting where the subject was debated, Green councillor Geoffrey Bowden, who is chairman of the council’s economic development committee, said: “Let’s be clear, this has absolutely nothing to do with the ideology of this administration.

“It is for personal safety grounds that the officers have made this recommendation.

“Businesses on the seafront also have to close and we are inundated with complaints from people who cannot access the beach [on that weekend].”

But, speaking after the launch of the petition, Conservative councillor Ken Norman said: “It is outrageous that such a prestigious and important historical event should be unceremoniously dumped and we are now looking at an attempt to destroy yet another part of our heritage.

“The current Green administration has already sold off the very first motor vehicle registration number, CD1, which for many years has been on the Mayoral car and I and many others cannot let this ridiculous situation go without a challenge.”

A decision will be made by the council’s Economic Development and Culture Committee at a meeting on January 23.

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10:53am Thu 2 Jan 14

Crystal Ball says...

Gaining speed maybe but will be stopped at 20mph!
Gaining speed maybe but will be stopped at 20mph! Crystal Ball

10:55am Thu 2 Jan 14

fred clause says...

Greens in trying to ban an event with motor vehicles shocker
Greens in trying to ban an event with motor vehicles shocker fred clause

11:20am Thu 2 Jan 14

Eugenius says...

The trouble is Madeira Drive is not maintained to race track standards (and why should it be for one day a year?) so there is a high risk of further injuries or deaths. On the other hand, people die swimming in the sea every year... Even if the Speed Trials are not cleared for 2014 be reassured that there will be another eleven motor vehicle events on Madeira Drive this year.
The trouble is Madeira Drive is not maintained to race track standards (and why should it be for one day a year?) so there is a high risk of further injuries or deaths. On the other hand, people die swimming in the sea every year... Even if the Speed Trials are not cleared for 2014 be reassured that there will be another eleven motor vehicle events on Madeira Drive this year. Eugenius

11:27am Thu 2 Jan 14

Eugenius says...

The trouble is Madeira Drive is not maintained to race track standards (and why should it be for one day a year?) so there is a high risk of further injuries or deaths. On the other hand, people die swimming in the sea every year... Even if the Speed Trials are not cleared for 2014 be reassured that there will be another eleven motor vehicle events on Madeira Drive this year.
The trouble is Madeira Drive is not maintained to race track standards (and why should it be for one day a year?) so there is a high risk of further injuries or deaths. On the other hand, people die swimming in the sea every year... Even if the Speed Trials are not cleared for 2014 be reassured that there will be another eleven motor vehicle events on Madeira Drive this year. Eugenius

12:32pm Thu 2 Jan 14

HJarrs says...

Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion.

If this this event is to remain, then it should at least be as reasonably safe as possible. If it goes, it will be an end of an era, but the beginning of a new one, as there are plenty of other, less disruptive events that could take its place.
Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion. If this this event is to remain, then it should at least be as reasonably safe as possible. If it goes, it will be an end of an era, but the beginning of a new one, as there are plenty of other, less disruptive events that could take its place. HJarrs

1:16pm Thu 2 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

HJarrs wrote:
Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion.

If this this event is to remain, then it should at least be as reasonably safe as possible. If it goes, it will be an end of an era, but the beginning of a new one, as there are plenty of other, less disruptive events that could take its place.
Closing your mouth and the stupid things that come from it should be kept to a maximum in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion. If this this event is to remain, then it should at least be as reasonably safe as possible. If it goes, it will be an end of an era, but the beginning of a new one, as there are plenty of other, less disruptive events that could take its place.[/p][/quote]Closing your mouth and the stupid things that come from it should be kept to a maximum in my opinion. All 9 of me

1:30pm Thu 2 Jan 14

s_james says...

I understand the concerns but it'd be a real shame it it goes. Very few activities in life have no danger at all, and although this has more than most, people are taking part voluntarily and understand the risks.

The thing I don't understand is the Tory cllr getting upset about the mayor's number plate - does anyone care about that? I certainly don't.
I understand the concerns but it'd be a real shame it it goes. Very few activities in life have no danger at all, and although this has more than most, people are taking part voluntarily and understand the risks. The thing I don't understand is the Tory cllr getting upset about the mayor's number plate - does anyone care about that? I certainly don't. s_james

1:33pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Man of steel says...

Eugenius says...
Even if the Speed Trials are not cleared for 2014 be reassured that there will be another eleven motor vehicle events on Madeira Drive this year.
Will there be? When one of the major complaints is that the road is closed to normal traffic, and therefore parking fees are lost.
I see it as the thin edge of the wedge, and that the car and motor-cycle rallies that take place here will also be told to go elsewhere.
Eugenius says... Even if the Speed Trials are not cleared for 2014 be reassured that there will be another eleven motor vehicle events on Madeira Drive this year. Will there be? When one of the major complaints is that the road is closed to normal traffic, and therefore parking fees are lost. I see it as the thin edge of the wedge, and that the car and motor-cycle rallies that take place here will also be told to go elsewhere. Man of steel

2:11pm Thu 2 Jan 14

OP8 says...

"At the inquest the jury heard how vehicles were travelling at 150mph on a road with a 30mph limit."

Erm, moot point. It's not usual usage and controlled environment. Not sure what the normal speed limit when it's open to the public is of interest
"At the inquest the jury heard how vehicles were travelling at 150mph on a road with a 30mph limit." Erm, moot point. It's not usual usage and controlled environment. Not sure what the normal speed limit when it's open to the public is of interest OP8

2:36pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

HJarrs wrote:
Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion.

If this this event is to remain, then it should at least be as reasonably safe as possible. If it goes, it will be an end of an era, but the beginning of a new one, as there are plenty of other, less disruptive events that could take its place.
You really are a prize ****, How is it not already reasonably safe? 3 deaths in over 100 years of running! There was a tragic death in Brighton Marathon last year, Are there plans to scrap that? Or how about Londo to Brighton Bike ride, I remember several deaths over the years. The fact is this is one of the safest motor sport events in the world. No one enters without knowing the risks, the fact the road is closed for 1/365th of the year is just a pathetic attempt at your ridiculous green spin.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion. If this this event is to remain, then it should at least be as reasonably safe as possible. If it goes, it will be an end of an era, but the beginning of a new one, as there are plenty of other, less disruptive events that could take its place.[/p][/quote]You really are a prize ****, How is it not already reasonably safe? 3 deaths in over 100 years of running! There was a tragic death in Brighton Marathon last year, Are there plans to scrap that? Or how about Londo to Brighton Bike ride, I remember several deaths over the years. The fact is this is one of the safest motor sport events in the world. No one enters without knowing the risks, the fact the road is closed for 1/365th of the year is just a pathetic attempt at your ridiculous green spin. Brighton1000

3:11pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Indigatio says...

I'm surprised that no one from Brighton & Hove Motor Club has rose to the challenge to defend this event.
It was 1st held in 1905 after Sir Harry Preston persuaded the then Town Council to Tarmac the 'road' that later came to be known as Madera Drive specifically so that the event could be held.
It has been held over 1/2 mile, 1km and since 1993, over 1/4 mile. It also used to run with two vehicles side by side, this being stopped and the distance reduced to make the event safer.
Motor Racing is Dangerous. Everyone involved knows the risks and accepts them. You cannot eliminate risk. The unforeseen happens, and sometimes people die. That's life. Those who think otherwise and want to ban everything that is risky need to grow up and live in the real world.
Brighton & Hove is a special place, It always has been and the Greens, despite their best efforts, won't change it. The Brighton National Speed Trials are one of the things that make Brighton & Hove what it is. Leave it alone and let it continue.
I'm surprised that no one from Brighton & Hove Motor Club has rose to the challenge to defend this event. It was 1st held in 1905 after Sir Harry Preston persuaded the then Town Council to Tarmac the 'road' that later came to be known as Madera Drive specifically so that the event could be held. It has been held over 1/2 mile, 1km and since 1993, over 1/4 mile. It also used to run with two vehicles side by side, this being stopped and the distance reduced to make the event safer. Motor Racing is Dangerous. Everyone involved knows the risks and accepts them. You cannot eliminate risk. The unforeseen happens, and sometimes people die. That's life. Those who think otherwise and want to ban everything that is risky need to grow up and live in the real world. Brighton & Hove is a special place, It always has been and the Greens, despite their best efforts, won't change it. The Brighton National Speed Trials are one of the things that make Brighton & Hove what it is. Leave it alone and let it continue. Indigatio

3:20pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Indigatio says...

What is quite interesting is that the e-petition of the B&HCC website now has 7983 signatures, far exceeding the 901 to save the hippodrome and the 636 for the vote of no confidence in the Green council and its only been running for 3 weeks!
What is quite interesting is that the e-petition of the B&HCC website now has 7983 signatures, far exceeding the 901 to save the hippodrome and the 636 for the vote of no confidence in the Green council and its only been running for 3 weeks! Indigatio

3:36pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

Indigatio wrote:
I'm surprised that no one from Brighton & Hove Motor Club has rose to the challenge to defend this event.
It was 1st held in 1905 after Sir Harry Preston persuaded the then Town Council to Tarmac the 'road' that later came to be known as Madera Drive specifically so that the event could be held.
It has been held over 1/2 mile, 1km and since 1993, over 1/4 mile. It also used to run with two vehicles side by side, this being stopped and the distance reduced to make the event safer.
Motor Racing is Dangerous. Everyone involved knows the risks and accepts them. You cannot eliminate risk. The unforeseen happens, and sometimes people die. That's life. Those who think otherwise and want to ban everything that is risky need to grow up and live in the real world.
Brighton & Hove is a special place, It always has been and the Greens, despite their best efforts, won't change it. The Brighton National Speed Trials are one of the things that make Brighton & Hove what it is. Leave it alone and let it continue.
The e-petition on BHCC website was started from BHMC, Over 7000 signatures so far. Which just shows its popularity. I fear the idiotic Greens will choose to ignore public opinion however. Luckily they wont be able to ignore the public opinion that BOOTS them out of Brighton soon.
[quote][p][bold]Indigatio[/bold] wrote: I'm surprised that no one from Brighton & Hove Motor Club has rose to the challenge to defend this event. It was 1st held in 1905 after Sir Harry Preston persuaded the then Town Council to Tarmac the 'road' that later came to be known as Madera Drive specifically so that the event could be held. It has been held over 1/2 mile, 1km and since 1993, over 1/4 mile. It also used to run with two vehicles side by side, this being stopped and the distance reduced to make the event safer. Motor Racing is Dangerous. Everyone involved knows the risks and accepts them. You cannot eliminate risk. The unforeseen happens, and sometimes people die. That's life. Those who think otherwise and want to ban everything that is risky need to grow up and live in the real world. Brighton & Hove is a special place, It always has been and the Greens, despite their best efforts, won't change it. The Brighton National Speed Trials are one of the things that make Brighton & Hove what it is. Leave it alone and let it continue.[/p][/quote]The e-petition on BHCC website was started from BHMC, Over 7000 signatures so far. Which just shows its popularity. I fear the idiotic Greens will choose to ignore public opinion however. Luckily they wont be able to ignore the public opinion that BOOTS them out of Brighton soon. Brighton1000

4:14pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

All 9 of me wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion.

If this this event is to remain, then it should at least be as reasonably safe as possible. If it goes, it will be an end of an era, but the beginning of a new one, as there are plenty of other, less disruptive events that could take its place.
Closing your mouth and the stupid things that come from it should be kept to a maximum in my opinion.
Gaz Scott.

First sensible post you have ever made on here

You are still without any shadow of doubt a complete tw4t

Happy New Year
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion. If this this event is to remain, then it should at least be as reasonably safe as possible. If it goes, it will be an end of an era, but the beginning of a new one, as there are plenty of other, less disruptive events that could take its place.[/p][/quote]Closing your mouth and the stupid things that come from it should be kept to a maximum in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Gaz Scott. First sensible post you have ever made on here You are still without any shadow of doubt a complete tw4t Happy New Year Somethingsarejustwrong

4:17pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

s_james wrote:
I understand the concerns but it'd be a real shame it it goes. Very few activities in life have no danger at all, and although this has more than most, people are taking part voluntarily and understand the risks.

The thing I don't understand is the Tory cllr getting upset about the mayor's number plate - does anyone care about that? I certainly don't.
No HJarrs you wouldn't in the same way you are happy to mislead others by posting under a plethora of names

You are more ridiculous than Gaz Scott and even he thinks you are a tw4t
[quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: I understand the concerns but it'd be a real shame it it goes. Very few activities in life have no danger at all, and although this has more than most, people are taking part voluntarily and understand the risks. The thing I don't understand is the Tory cllr getting upset about the mayor's number plate - does anyone care about that? I certainly don't.[/p][/quote]No HJarrs you wouldn't in the same way you are happy to mislead others by posting under a plethora of names You are more ridiculous than Gaz Scott and even he thinks you are a tw4t Somethingsarejustwrong

4:25pm Thu 2 Jan 14

s_james says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
s_james wrote:
I understand the concerns but it'd be a real shame it it goes. Very few activities in life have no danger at all, and although this has more than most, people are taking part voluntarily and understand the risks.

The thing I don't understand is the Tory cllr getting upset about the mayor's number plate - does anyone care about that? I certainly don't.
No HJarrs you wouldn't in the same way you are happy to mislead others by posting under a plethora of names

You are more ridiculous than Gaz Scott and even he thinks you are a tw4t
Hahahaha, how paranoid are you?!!

The point I made in the first paragraph is a complete different point of view to H Jarrs so I have no idea how or why you suspect we are the same people. In case you didn't notice, I oppose the Speed Trials ending. Who the hell is Gaz Scott? Somethings are just wrong, and you are one of them!
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: I understand the concerns but it'd be a real shame it it goes. Very few activities in life have no danger at all, and although this has more than most, people are taking part voluntarily and understand the risks. The thing I don't understand is the Tory cllr getting upset about the mayor's number plate - does anyone care about that? I certainly don't.[/p][/quote]No HJarrs you wouldn't in the same way you are happy to mislead others by posting under a plethora of names You are more ridiculous than Gaz Scott and even he thinks you are a tw4t[/p][/quote]Hahahaha, how paranoid are you?!! The point I made in the first paragraph is a complete different point of view to H Jarrs so I have no idea how or why you suspect we are the same people. In case you didn't notice, I oppose the Speed Trials ending. Who the hell is Gaz Scott? Somethings are just wrong, and you are one of them! s_james

4:34pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

s_james wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
s_james wrote:
I understand the concerns but it'd be a real shame it it goes. Very few activities in life have no danger at all, and although this has more than most, people are taking part voluntarily and understand the risks.

The thing I don't understand is the Tory cllr getting upset about the mayor's number plate - does anyone care about that? I certainly don't.
No HJarrs you wouldn't in the same way you are happy to mislead others by posting under a plethora of names

You are more ridiculous than Gaz Scott and even he thinks you are a tw4t
Hahahaha, how paranoid are you?!!

The point I made in the first paragraph is a complete different point of view to H Jarrs so I have no idea how or why you suspect we are the same people. In case you didn't notice, I oppose the Speed Trials ending. Who the hell is Gaz Scott? Somethings are just wrong, and you are one of them!
HJarrs. You greens are ridiculous and of course the level of misinformation you post is worthy of formal recognition. Maybe there are industry awards that you can enter

In the meanwhile please don't bother insulting the readership with futile attempts to continue this deception

Laughable waster
[quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: I understand the concerns but it'd be a real shame it it goes. Very few activities in life have no danger at all, and although this has more than most, people are taking part voluntarily and understand the risks. The thing I don't understand is the Tory cllr getting upset about the mayor's number plate - does anyone care about that? I certainly don't.[/p][/quote]No HJarrs you wouldn't in the same way you are happy to mislead others by posting under a plethora of names You are more ridiculous than Gaz Scott and even he thinks you are a tw4t[/p][/quote]Hahahaha, how paranoid are you?!! The point I made in the first paragraph is a complete different point of view to H Jarrs so I have no idea how or why you suspect we are the same people. In case you didn't notice, I oppose the Speed Trials ending. Who the hell is Gaz Scott? Somethings are just wrong, and you are one of them![/p][/quote]HJarrs. You greens are ridiculous and of course the level of misinformation you post is worthy of formal recognition. Maybe there are industry awards that you can enter In the meanwhile please don't bother insulting the readership with futile attempts to continue this deception Laughable waster Somethingsarejustwrong

4:52pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

s_james wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
s_james wrote:
I understand the concerns but it'd be a real shame it it goes. Very few activities in life have no danger at all, and although this has more than most, people are taking part voluntarily and understand the risks.

The thing I don't understand is the Tory cllr getting upset about the mayor's number plate - does anyone care about that? I certainly don't.
No HJarrs you wouldn't in the same way you are happy to mislead others by posting under a plethora of names

You are more ridiculous than Gaz Scott and even he thinks you are a tw4t
Hahahaha, how paranoid are you?!!

The point I made in the first paragraph is a complete different point of view to H Jarrs so I have no idea how or why you suspect we are the same people. In case you didn't notice, I oppose the Speed Trials ending. Who the hell is Gaz Scott? Somethings are just wrong, and you are one of them!
Perhaps this is one of Gaz Scott's posting names. Either way you are a pair of tw4ts and maybe should combine forces to try to make Brighton worse gor residents that care

Laughable wasters
[quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: I understand the concerns but it'd be a real shame it it goes. Very few activities in life have no danger at all, and although this has more than most, people are taking part voluntarily and understand the risks. The thing I don't understand is the Tory cllr getting upset about the mayor's number plate - does anyone care about that? I certainly don't.[/p][/quote]No HJarrs you wouldn't in the same way you are happy to mislead others by posting under a plethora of names You are more ridiculous than Gaz Scott and even he thinks you are a tw4t[/p][/quote]Hahahaha, how paranoid are you?!! The point I made in the first paragraph is a complete different point of view to H Jarrs so I have no idea how or why you suspect we are the same people. In case you didn't notice, I oppose the Speed Trials ending. Who the hell is Gaz Scott? Somethings are just wrong, and you are one of them![/p][/quote]Perhaps this is one of Gaz Scott's posting names. Either way you are a pair of tw4ts and maybe should combine forces to try to make Brighton worse gor residents that care Laughable wasters Somethingsarejustwrong

5:46pm Thu 2 Jan 14

HJarrs says...

Brighton1000 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion.

If this this event is to remain, then it should at least be as reasonably safe as possible. If it goes, it will be an end of an era, but the beginning of a new one, as there are plenty of other, less disruptive events that could take its place.
You really are a prize ****, How is it not already reasonably safe? 3 deaths in over 100 years of running! There was a tragic death in Brighton Marathon last year, Are there plans to scrap that? Or how about Londo to Brighton Bike ride, I remember several deaths over the years. The fact is this is one of the safest motor sport events in the world. No one enters without knowing the risks, the fact the road is closed for 1/365th of the year is just a pathetic attempt at your ridiculous green spin.
I am neither for or against the event. But it would not be the end of the world if it ended, it would just be replaced by something else. If the event is replaced, it should be by something that does not completely close Madiera Drive.
[quote][p][bold]Brighton1000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion. If this this event is to remain, then it should at least be as reasonably safe as possible. If it goes, it will be an end of an era, but the beginning of a new one, as there are plenty of other, less disruptive events that could take its place.[/p][/quote]You really are a prize ****, How is it not already reasonably safe? 3 deaths in over 100 years of running! There was a tragic death in Brighton Marathon last year, Are there plans to scrap that? Or how about Londo to Brighton Bike ride, I remember several deaths over the years. The fact is this is one of the safest motor sport events in the world. No one enters without knowing the risks, the fact the road is closed for 1/365th of the year is just a pathetic attempt at your ridiculous green spin.[/p][/quote]I am neither for or against the event. But it would not be the end of the world if it ended, it would just be replaced by something else. If the event is replaced, it should be by something that does not completely close Madiera Drive. HJarrs

7:02pm Thu 2 Jan 14

s_james says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
s_james wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro


ng
wrote:
s_james wrote:
I understand the concerns but it'd be a real shame it it goes. Very few activities in life have no danger at all, and although this has more than most, people are taking part voluntarily and understand the risks.

The thing I don't understand is the Tory cllr getting upset about the mayor's number plate - does anyone care about that? I certainly don't.
No HJarrs you wouldn't in the same way you are happy to mislead others by posting under a plethora of names

You are more ridiculous than Gaz Scott and even he thinks you are a tw4t
Hahahaha, how paranoid are you?!!

The point I made in the first paragraph is a complete different point of view to H Jarrs so I have no idea how or why you suspect we are the same people. In case you didn't notice, I oppose the Speed Trials ending. Who the hell is Gaz Scott? Somethings are just wrong, and you are one of them!
Perhaps this is one of Gaz Scott's posting names. Either way you are a pair of tw4ts and maybe should combine forces to try to make Brighton worse gor residents that care

Laughable wasters
Top notch comedy - keep up the good work Sir!
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: I understand the concerns but it'd be a real shame it it goes. Very few activities in life have no danger at all, and although this has more than most, people are taking part voluntarily and understand the risks. The thing I don't understand is the Tory cllr getting upset about the mayor's number plate - does anyone care about that? I certainly don't.[/p][/quote]No HJarrs you wouldn't in the same way you are happy to mislead others by posting under a plethora of names You are more ridiculous than Gaz Scott and even he thinks you are a tw4t[/p][/quote]Hahahaha, how paranoid are you?!! The point I made in the first paragraph is a complete different point of view to H Jarrs so I have no idea how or why you suspect we are the same people. In case you didn't notice, I oppose the Speed Trials ending. Who the hell is Gaz Scott? Somethings are just wrong, and you are one of them![/p][/quote]Perhaps this is one of Gaz Scott's posting names. Either way you are a pair of tw4ts and maybe should combine forces to try to make Brighton worse gor residents that care Laughable wasters[/p][/quote]Top notch comedy - keep up the good work Sir! s_james

7:34pm Thu 2 Jan 14

upsidedowntuctuc says...

This has everything to do with green ideology make no mistake.
This event has been going for oiver 100 years
Time to ban Kitprat and his ridiculous inane grinning Davey that would make sense...
However 16 months and a couple of days to go...
This has everything to do with green ideology make no mistake. This event has been going for oiver 100 years Time to ban Kitprat and his ridiculous inane grinning Davey that would make sense... However 16 months and a couple of days to go... upsidedowntuctuc

9:00pm Thu 2 Jan 14

kingsbarn says...

I believe the only sensible thing to set in place is an arrangement between two tortoises and two snails (the final decision about which animal should be painted green to be determined at a later date).
There should be a maximum speed limit of 1 mpyear imposed as a matter of course.
It goes without saying that both Mr Kit-Kat and Ms Lucas should lead the parade by sliding on their backs with respective tongues nailed to appropriate cheeks.
I'm sure that we will all be eternally grateful that, thanks to The Greens, our planet will now survive for millions of years to come.
I believe the only sensible thing to set in place is an arrangement between two tortoises and two snails (the final decision about which animal should be painted green to be determined at a later date). There should be a maximum speed limit of 1 mpyear imposed as a matter of course. It goes without saying that both Mr Kit-Kat and Ms Lucas should lead the parade by sliding on their backs with respective tongues nailed to appropriate cheeks. I'm sure that we will all be eternally grateful that, thanks to The Greens, our planet will now survive for millions of years to come. kingsbarn

9:42pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Justin says...

I think the Greens know already that they have no chance of being re-elected so are trying to impose as much of their dogma on the town as possible before they are kicked out.
I think the Greens know already that they have no chance of being re-elected so are trying to impose as much of their dogma on the town as possible before they are kicked out. Justin

10:45pm Thu 2 Jan 14

gheese77 says...

I think it should be allowed as long as spectators are safe and the danger restricted to riders/drivers. Anyone who wants to race a motor vehicle knows that it is potentially dangerous. This is a historical event and one that should not be got rid of lightly. Also the council should not be held liable for any deaths or injuries
I think it should be allowed as long as spectators are safe and the danger restricted to riders/drivers. Anyone who wants to race a motor vehicle knows that it is potentially dangerous. This is a historical event and one that should not be got rid of lightly. Also the council should not be held liable for any deaths or injuries gheese77

10:09am Fri 3 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

HJarrs wrote:
Brighton1000 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion.

If this this event is to remain, then it should at least be as reasonably safe as possible. If it goes, it will be an end of an era, but the beginning of a new one, as there are plenty of other, less disruptive events that could take its place.
You really are a prize ****, How is it not already reasonably safe? 3 deaths in over 100 years of running! There was a tragic death in Brighton Marathon last year, Are there plans to scrap that? Or how about Londo to Brighton Bike ride, I remember several deaths over the years. The fact is this is one of the safest motor sport events in the world. No one enters without knowing the risks, the fact the road is closed for 1/365th of the year is just a pathetic attempt at your ridiculous green spin.
I am neither for or against the event. But it would not be the end of the world if it ended, it would just be replaced by something else. If the event is replaced, it should be by something that does not completely close Madiera Drive.
What is the issue in closing madeira drive for the day for the safety of the public and spectators? And what is the issue with closing it for the day anyway? No it wouldnt be replaced by the same event, nor one like it. And once again, you dont even live in Brighton, so what possible effect can it have on you? It wouldnt be the end of the world no, but the end of over 100 years of brighton heritage, not being a brightonian i know that wont resinate witth you, But us people that do reside here do care and are for the event. And also poised for that voting form to kick you **** out of Brighton asap.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brighton1000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion. If this this event is to remain, then it should at least be as reasonably safe as possible. If it goes, it will be an end of an era, but the beginning of a new one, as there are plenty of other, less disruptive events that could take its place.[/p][/quote]You really are a prize ****, How is it not already reasonably safe? 3 deaths in over 100 years of running! There was a tragic death in Brighton Marathon last year, Are there plans to scrap that? Or how about Londo to Brighton Bike ride, I remember several deaths over the years. The fact is this is one of the safest motor sport events in the world. No one enters without knowing the risks, the fact the road is closed for 1/365th of the year is just a pathetic attempt at your ridiculous green spin.[/p][/quote]I am neither for or against the event. But it would not be the end of the world if it ended, it would just be replaced by something else. If the event is replaced, it should be by something that does not completely close Madiera Drive.[/p][/quote]What is the issue in closing madeira drive for the day for the safety of the public and spectators? And what is the issue with closing it for the day anyway? No it wouldnt be replaced by the same event, nor one like it. And once again, you dont even live in Brighton, so what possible effect can it have on you? It wouldnt be the end of the world no, but the end of over 100 years of brighton heritage, not being a brightonian i know that wont resinate witth you, But us people that do reside here do care and are for the event. And also poised for that voting form to kick you **** out of Brighton asap. Brighton1000

1:27pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Man of steel says...

HJarrs says...
"Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion."

But it is ok to virtually close down the whole of Brighton for one day for the London to Brighton bike ride, most of whom jump into a car and drive straight back out again, therefore adding nothing to the town financially.
HJarrs says... "Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion." But it is ok to virtually close down the whole of Brighton for one day for the London to Brighton bike ride, most of whom jump into a car and drive straight back out again, therefore adding nothing to the town financially. Man of steel

2:32pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Man of steel wrote:
HJarrs says...
"Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion."

But it is ok to virtually close down the whole of Brighton for one day for the London to Brighton bike ride, most of whom jump into a car and drive straight back out again, therefore adding nothing to the town financially.
We also like to close the city to allow out of towners to come along and protest about ridiculous things
[quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: HJarrs says... "Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion." But it is ok to virtually close down the whole of Brighton for one day for the London to Brighton bike ride, most of whom jump into a car and drive straight back out again, therefore adding nothing to the town financially.[/p][/quote]We also like to close the city to allow out of towners to come along and protest about ridiculous things Somethingsarejustwrong

4:04pm Fri 3 Jan 14

jimpy762 says...

Hjarrs, soon to be residing on the isle of Man campaigning for a less disruptive event than the TT and pedestrianizing the mountain course.
If you'd been in Brighton any longer than 5 minutes you'd understand madeira drive and its history and heritage of popular, successful motoring events and rallies. Why don't you s*d off back to wherever it is you came from before you blessed us with your enlightened presence and half witted rhetoric.
Hjarrs, soon to be residing on the isle of Man campaigning for a less disruptive event than the TT and pedestrianizing the mountain course. If you'd been in Brighton any longer than 5 minutes you'd understand madeira drive and its history and heritage of popular, successful motoring events and rallies. Why don't you s*d off back to wherever it is you came from before you blessed us with your enlightened presence and half witted rhetoric. jimpy762

4:09pm Fri 3 Jan 14

jimpy762 says...

gheese77 wrote:
I think it should be allowed as long as spectators are safe and the danger restricted to riders/drivers. Anyone who wants to race a motor vehicle knows that it is potentially dangerous. This is a historical event and one that should not be got rid of lightly. Also the council should not be held liable for any deaths or injuries
They're not liable. Anyone who knows anything about motorsport will be aware of that.
[quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: I think it should be allowed as long as spectators are safe and the danger restricted to riders/drivers. Anyone who wants to race a motor vehicle knows that it is potentially dangerous. This is a historical event and one that should not be got rid of lightly. Also the council should not be held liable for any deaths or injuries[/p][/quote]They're not liable. Anyone who knows anything about motorsport will be aware of that. jimpy762

5:01pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

Man of steel wrote:
HJarrs says...
"Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion."

But it is ok to virtually close down the whole of Brighton for one day for the London to Brighton bike ride, most of whom jump into a car and drive straight back out again, therefore adding nothing to the town financially.
Here here very well said!
[quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: HJarrs says... "Closing off Madiera Drive is a pain in the summer whatever the event and should be kept to a minimum in my opinion." But it is ok to virtually close down the whole of Brighton for one day for the London to Brighton bike ride, most of whom jump into a car and drive straight back out again, therefore adding nothing to the town financially.[/p][/quote]Here here very well said! Brighton1000

7:16pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

upsidedowntuctuc wrote:
This has everything to do with green ideology make no mistake.
This event has been going for oiver 100 years
Time to ban Kitprat and his ridiculous inane grinning Davey that would make sense...
However 16 months and a couple of days to go...
Absolutely right, Green ideology is all about denying the local residents anything they possibly can while wasting as much money as possible in forcing through their largely idiotic ideas.

Greens have no idea about history or tradition and this is just another example of them attempting to rubbish our City and its residents.

I'm off to sign the petition and I'll vote any way it takes to get rid of this rabble in May 2015.
[quote][p][bold]upsidedowntuctuc[/bold] wrote: This has everything to do with green ideology make no mistake. This event has been going for oiver 100 years Time to ban Kitprat and his ridiculous inane grinning Davey that would make sense... However 16 months and a couple of days to go...[/p][/quote]Absolutely right, Green ideology is all about denying the local residents anything they possibly can while wasting as much money as possible in forcing through their largely idiotic ideas. Greens have no idea about history or tradition and this is just another example of them attempting to rubbish our City and its residents. I'm off to sign the petition and I'll vote any way it takes to get rid of this rabble in May 2015. Idontbelieveit1948

11:30pm Fri 3 Jan 14

FatherTed11 says...

Signing the petition won't make any difference unfortunately.

The greens have ignored the results of every single 'consultation' they have had since being in office which is why we are stuck with the unwanted bus lanes and cycle lanes whilst people are lacking basic services such as refuse collection. My rubbish hasn't been collected since before Christmas for **** sake.
Signing the petition won't make any difference unfortunately. The greens have ignored the results of every single 'consultation' they have had since being in office which is why we are stuck with the unwanted bus lanes and cycle lanes whilst people are lacking basic services such as refuse collection. My rubbish hasn't been collected since before Christmas for **** sake. FatherTed11

9:52am Mon 6 Jan 14

andye30m3 says...

I'm quite convinced that the Greens would have happily pushed this through without anyone noticing and commend BHMC for their efforts in bringing the issue into the public eye.

If they completely ignore a 10,000+ strong petition this must say an awful a lot about the party and their desire to force their views on to the people they allegedly represent without consideration to their opinions.

Personally I feel that there's a bigger issue here, if you are for or against the the speed trials is irrelevant compared to the arrogance of an elected party completely ignoring the views of the people.

This type approach will make the whole party completely unelectable ever again, maybe the green party as a whole need to look at what message this will send out, local government is about representing the people not bullying them into following your ideology.
I'm quite convinced that the Greens would have happily pushed this through without anyone noticing and commend BHMC for their efforts in bringing the issue into the public eye. If they completely ignore a 10,000+ strong petition this must say an awful a lot about the party and their desire to force their views on to the people they allegedly represent without consideration to their opinions. Personally I feel that there's a bigger issue here, if you are for or against the the speed trials is irrelevant compared to the arrogance of an elected party completely ignoring the views of the people. This type approach will make the whole party completely unelectable ever again, maybe the green party as a whole need to look at what message this will send out, local government is about representing the people not bullying them into following your ideology. andye30m3

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