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Man needs 'extensive surgery' after New Year's Day attack at Brighton nightspot

The Argus: Shooshh nightclub Shooshh nightclub

A man had a terrifying start to 2014 after being punched in the face at a Brighton nightclub in the early hours of New Year's Day.

The 23-year-old man from Eastbourne was attacked at Shooshh nightclub in Kings Road Arches, Brighton, at 5.30am on New Year’s Day.

He was punched in the face and fell to the floor. He suffered serious facial injuries which have since required extensive surgery.

Detectives are keen to speak to anyone who saw what happened and they are asked to phone Sussex Police on 101 or email: 101@sussex.pnn.police.uk, quoting serial 1014 of 1/1.

Or call Crimestoppers, free and anonymously, on 0800 555 111.

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8:41am Wed 8 Jan 14

monkeymoo says...

Brighton.....

......Full of Sh1t on the streets. Both the hoshold stuff and (some) of the people!
Brighton..... ......Full of Sh1t on the streets. Both the hoshold stuff and (some) of the people! monkeymoo
  • Score: -1

8:45am Wed 8 Jan 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

What a lovely NYE. First we have this then further down the page we have women being drugged in another club.
Perhaps it's time for the police and licensing to look at the city with fresh eyes because some nights it really is like a war zone. Even Sussex Police were complaining on TV about the level of violence aimed at officers in NYE.
We need to tidy up our reputation otherwise tourism will suffer.
What a lovely NYE. First we have this then further down the page we have women being drugged in another club. Perhaps it's time for the police and licensing to look at the city with fresh eyes because some nights it really is like a war zone. Even Sussex Police were complaining on TV about the level of violence aimed at officers in NYE. We need to tidy up our reputation otherwise tourism will suffer. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 16

8:48am Wed 8 Jan 14

BURIRAM says...

Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am
Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am BURIRAM
  • Score: 10

9:44am Wed 8 Jan 14

NickBrt says...

This sort of things happens more and more at straight clubs. Clearly the straight lifestyle is abhorrent and violent and should be abolished.
This sort of things happens more and more at straight clubs. Clearly the straight lifestyle is abhorrent and violent and should be abolished. NickBrt
  • Score: -5

10:29am Wed 8 Jan 14

rayellerton says...

When this was the Honeyclub, during the years before 24hour licencing the bars would close at 2 am and there was very rarely any violent acts as drunks were kept out by responsible door staff. Now, clubs let in anyone as they have to compete with all the bars which are open late because the greedy council has issued licences to far to many venues whose only reason to be open is to sell sell sell copious amounts of booze...
When this was the Honeyclub, during the years before 24hour licencing the bars would close at 2 am and there was very rarely any violent acts as drunks were kept out by responsible door staff. Now, clubs let in anyone as they have to compete with all the bars which are open late because the greedy council has issued licences to far to many venues whose only reason to be open is to sell sell sell copious amounts of booze... rayellerton
  • Score: 23

11:04am Wed 8 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

NickBrt wrote:
This sort of things happens more and more at straight clubs. Clearly the straight lifestyle is abhorrent and violent and should be abolished.
Unfortunately it happens in our gay nightclubs and bars too now which used to be very rare until straights started to use them in large numbers which is not bad if they behave themselves but it has now got to the stage a safe haven for gays does not exist.
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: This sort of things happens more and more at straight clubs. Clearly the straight lifestyle is abhorrent and violent and should be abolished.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately it happens in our gay nightclubs and bars too now which used to be very rare until straights started to use them in large numbers which is not bad if they behave themselves but it has now got to the stage a safe haven for gays does not exist. clubrob6
  • Score: 9

11:14am Wed 8 Jan 14

s&k says...

Does anyone living in Brighton actually use Brighton after 9pm? If 'no' then it's not our city anymore and has been taken over by drunks and criminals.
Does anyone living in Brighton actually use Brighton after 9pm? If 'no' then it's not our city anymore and has been taken over by drunks and criminals. s&k
  • Score: 10

11:15am Wed 8 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

BURIRAM wrote:
Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am
I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.
[quote][p][bold]BURIRAM[/bold] wrote: Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am[/p][/quote]I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark. clubrob6
  • Score: 7

11:59am Wed 8 Jan 14

tykemison says...

It's staggering how hostile Brighton has become at night-time.I am amazed at how much idiotic behaviour seems to be allowed/ignored by the authorities, perhaps they feel the"night-time economy"as they so tastefully call it,compensates for the fifth that hunts on our streets.There must be a way to control the populace as they only have one way to commute out of town, its not like London or Paris where you can disappear so easily, strange to say the least.
It's staggering how hostile Brighton has become at night-time.I am amazed at how much idiotic behaviour seems to be allowed/ignored by the authorities, perhaps they feel the"night-time economy"as they so tastefully call it,compensates for the fifth that hunts on our streets.There must be a way to control the populace as they only have one way to commute out of town, its not like London or Paris where you can disappear so easily, strange to say the least. tykemison
  • Score: 12

12:10pm Wed 8 Jan 14

IShouldoftriedharder says...

clubrob6 wrote:
BURIRAM wrote:
Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am
I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.
Venues do not want the police involved with disputes/ fights/ drug taking. If police get involved reports are made, questions are asked and fines and other licensing penalties can be issued. Much better for business to keep a low profile, hiring private security and staying off the police radar.
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BURIRAM[/bold] wrote: Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am[/p][/quote]I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.[/p][/quote]Venues do not want the police involved with disputes/ fights/ drug taking. If police get involved reports are made, questions are asked and fines and other licensing penalties can be issued. Much better for business to keep a low profile, hiring private security and staying off the police radar. IShouldoftriedharder
  • Score: 8

12:11pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Saltdean Resident says...

clubrob6 wrote:
BURIRAM wrote:
Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am
I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.
I used to go clubbing throughout the 90's when everyone was taking ecstasy, you would go to the bar and all people wanted was a glass of water, hardly any booze sold at all, and guess what no violence, (i think its impossible to get violent on E) i now go to pubs where everyone is drinking and fights breakout all the time.
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BURIRAM[/bold] wrote: Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am[/p][/quote]I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.[/p][/quote]I used to go clubbing throughout the 90's when everyone was taking ecstasy, you would go to the bar and all people wanted was a glass of water, hardly any booze sold at all, and guess what no violence, (i think its impossible to get violent on E) i now go to pubs where everyone is drinking and fights breakout all the time. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 10

12:12pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Saltdean Resident says...

clubrob6 wrote:
BURIRAM wrote:
Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am
I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.
I used to go clubbing throughout the 90's when everyone was taking ecstasy, you would go to the bar and all people wanted was a glass of water, hardly any booze sold at all, and guess what no violence, (i think its impossible to get violent on E) i now go to pubs where everyone is drinking and fights breakout all the time.
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BURIRAM[/bold] wrote: Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am[/p][/quote]I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.[/p][/quote]I used to go clubbing throughout the 90's when everyone was taking ecstasy, you would go to the bar and all people wanted was a glass of water, hardly any booze sold at all, and guess what no violence, (i think its impossible to get violent on E) i now go to pubs where everyone is drinking and fights breakout all the time. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 6

12:22pm Wed 8 Jan 14

TheDrive says...

This isn't a symptom of Brighton, which is still a fantastic place to live. And it's not a symptom of late night bars and clubs that people love going to - and why not? It's because we have a liberal legal system where violent behaviour is not properly punished. Harder prisons and longer sentences are the only deterrent. Forget rehabilitation of violent people - its a waste of time. If people like this lads attacker knew they would end up in prison for five years, it would have never happened in the first place.
This isn't a symptom of Brighton, which is still a fantastic place to live. And it's not a symptom of late night bars and clubs that people love going to - and why not? It's because we have a liberal legal system where violent behaviour is not properly punished. Harder prisons and longer sentences are the only deterrent. Forget rehabilitation of violent people - its a waste of time. If people like this lads attacker knew they would end up in prison for five years, it would have never happened in the first place. TheDrive
  • Score: 22

12:27pm Wed 8 Jan 14

rayellerton says...

Saltdean Resident wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
BURIRAM wrote:
Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am
I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.
I used to go clubbing throughout the 90's when everyone was taking ecstasy, you would go to the bar and all people wanted was a glass of water, hardly any booze sold at all, and guess what no violence, (i think its impossible to get violent on E) i now go to pubs where everyone is drinking and fights breakout all the time.
Agree entirely...and you have pinpointed the reason that the brewers lobbied the Blair government remorselessly until they got their wish...we now have areas of our cities and towns which are virtual no go areas, and clubs full of drunks instead of happy smiling faces. And they say drugs are bad!! Alcohol affects far more people both directly and indirectly...war on drugs? how about a war on alcohol?
[quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BURIRAM[/bold] wrote: Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am[/p][/quote]I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.[/p][/quote]I used to go clubbing throughout the 90's when everyone was taking ecstasy, you would go to the bar and all people wanted was a glass of water, hardly any booze sold at all, and guess what no violence, (i think its impossible to get violent on E) i now go to pubs where everyone is drinking and fights breakout all the time.[/p][/quote]Agree entirely...and you have pinpointed the reason that the brewers lobbied the Blair government remorselessly until they got their wish...we now have areas of our cities and towns which are virtual no go areas, and clubs full of drunks instead of happy smiling faces. And they say drugs are bad!! Alcohol affects far more people both directly and indirectly...war on drugs? how about a war on alcohol? rayellerton
  • Score: 17

1:39pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Levent says...

What, do you mean to say that even at Christmas & New Year Brits can't behave themselves and act in a humane fashion? Wow, what a shocking discovery this is to me. Now before we all jump on the band wagon, I doubt alcohol or even drugs played any part in this. Let's get the attackers "past life regression therapy" and all will be ok again won't it libs?

Hope he recovers well though, what a horrible start to a year!
What, do you mean to say that even at Christmas & New Year Brits can't behave themselves and act in a humane fashion? Wow, what a shocking discovery this is to me. Now before we all jump on the band wagon, I doubt alcohol or even drugs played any part in this. Let's get the attackers "past life regression therapy" and all will be ok again won't it libs? Hope he recovers well though, what a horrible start to a year! Levent
  • Score: 0

1:41pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Levent says...

NickBrt wrote:
This sort of things happens more and more at straight clubs. Clearly the straight lifestyle is abhorrent and violent and should be abolished.
I'm just reporting your comment as blatantly hetero-phobic and hate speech!
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: This sort of things happens more and more at straight clubs. Clearly the straight lifestyle is abhorrent and violent and should be abolished.[/p][/quote]I'm just reporting your comment as blatantly hetero-phobic and hate speech! Levent
  • Score: 4

2:24pm Wed 8 Jan 14

downbythesea says...

There will always be fights amongst some drunk people! That's a FACT!

You can't blame it all on the breweries though, MOST people I know, drink at home before going out clubbing as it's much cheaper, then buy a couple of vastly more expensive drinks in clubs.

I mean, it's 90p or so for an alco-pop / bottle of beer at home, or on average £3.80 in a club...

The supermarkets also bear some responsibility for discounting alcohol with their daft 2 cases for £12 promotions, and super strength own brand lager and cider at ridiculously cheap prices.

Mind you, you are right about the different "scenes" gay / straight in Brighton, I have in 20 years of clubbing in Brighton most weekends, personally seen maybe 5 or 6 fights in gay clubs, a couple of which were definitely "handbags at dawn" lol, but very very considerably more in straight pubs and clubs which I no longer go to as it's just not a nice place to be with drunken Crawley / London folk (I'm generalising there before anyone jumps on their high horse!).

Tougher sentences may help, but pricing is probably more important at supermarkets / small offies!
There will always be fights amongst some drunk people! That's a FACT! You can't blame it all on the breweries though, MOST people I know, drink at home before going out clubbing as it's much cheaper, then buy a couple of vastly more expensive drinks in clubs. I mean, it's 90p or so for an alco-pop / bottle of beer at home, or on average £3.80 in a club... The supermarkets also bear some responsibility for discounting alcohol with their daft 2 cases for £12 promotions, and super strength own brand lager and cider at ridiculously cheap prices. Mind you, you are right about the different "scenes" gay / straight in Brighton, I have in 20 years of clubbing in Brighton most weekends, personally seen maybe 5 or 6 fights in gay clubs, a couple of which were definitely "handbags at dawn" lol, but very very considerably more in straight pubs and clubs which I no longer go to as it's just not a nice place to be with drunken Crawley / London folk (I'm generalising there before anyone jumps on their high horse!). Tougher sentences may help, but pricing is probably more important at supermarkets / small offies! downbythesea
  • Score: 3

2:28pm Wed 8 Jan 14

RaveyDavey says...

Well, let's face it, he IS from Eastbourne..........
........ ;o)
Well, let's face it, he IS from Eastbourne.......... ........ ;o) RaveyDavey
  • Score: -6

2:51pm Wed 8 Jan 14

vivelavive says...

Saltdean Resident wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
BURIRAM wrote:
Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am
I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.
I used to go clubbing throughout the 90's when everyone was taking ecstasy, you would go to the bar and all people wanted was a glass of water, hardly any booze sold at all, and guess what no violence, (i think its impossible to get violent on E) i now go to pubs where everyone is drinking and fights breakout all the time.
Also, in the past 10-15 years cocaine has replaced ecstasy as the party drug of choice and has a very different effect!
[quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BURIRAM[/bold] wrote: Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am[/p][/quote]I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.[/p][/quote]I used to go clubbing throughout the 90's when everyone was taking ecstasy, you would go to the bar and all people wanted was a glass of water, hardly any booze sold at all, and guess what no violence, (i think its impossible to get violent on E) i now go to pubs where everyone is drinking and fights breakout all the time.[/p][/quote]Also, in the past 10-15 years cocaine has replaced ecstasy as the party drug of choice and has a very different effect! vivelavive
  • Score: 2

2:52pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

clubrob6 wrote:
BURIRAM wrote:
Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am
I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.
Very well said my friend, my sentiments exactly, drugs are the root of the issue, especially the increase in rapes etc. Drugs make people volatile and act in a manner they would never normally dream of.
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BURIRAM[/bold] wrote: Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am[/p][/quote]I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.[/p][/quote]Very well said my friend, my sentiments exactly, drugs are the root of the issue, especially the increase in rapes etc. Drugs make people volatile and act in a manner they would never normally dream of. Brighton1000
  • Score: 0

2:55pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

vivelavive wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
BURIRAM wrote:
Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am
I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.
I used to go clubbing throughout the 90's when everyone was taking ecstasy, you would go to the bar and all people wanted was a glass of water, hardly any booze sold at all, and guess what no violence, (i think its impossible to get violent on E) i now go to pubs where everyone is drinking and fights breakout all the time.
Also, in the past 10-15 years cocaine has replaced ecstasy as the party drug of choice and has a very different effect!
Yes, the albanians have swamoed our streets with cheao coke, and god only knows what its cut with. I have seen people out that have that vacant look in their eyes, 98& of clubs have people off their heads. Its going to get worse and worse the more its ignired, this town needs a serious clamp down on social drug use. Its out of hand, they are everywhere, dealing and driving on every street almost, with a home delivery service!
[quote][p][bold]vivelavive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BURIRAM[/bold] wrote: Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am[/p][/quote]I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.[/p][/quote]I used to go clubbing throughout the 90's when everyone was taking ecstasy, you would go to the bar and all people wanted was a glass of water, hardly any booze sold at all, and guess what no violence, (i think its impossible to get violent on E) i now go to pubs where everyone is drinking and fights breakout all the time.[/p][/quote]Also, in the past 10-15 years cocaine has replaced ecstasy as the party drug of choice and has a very different effect![/p][/quote]Yes, the albanians have swamoed our streets with cheao coke, and god only knows what its cut with. I have seen people out that have that vacant look in their eyes, 98& of clubs have people off their heads. Its going to get worse and worse the more its ignired, this town needs a serious clamp down on social drug use. Its out of hand, they are everywhere, dealing and driving on every street almost, with a home delivery service! Brighton1000
  • Score: 5

3:01pm Wed 8 Jan 14

LargeAndInCharge says...

vivelavive wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
BURIRAM wrote:
Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am
I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.
I used to go clubbing throughout the 90's when everyone was taking ecstasy, you would go to the bar and all people wanted was a glass of water, hardly any booze sold at all, and guess what no violence, (i think its impossible to get violent on E) i now go to pubs where everyone is drinking and fights breakout all the time.
Also, in the past 10-15 years cocaine has replaced ecstasy as the party drug of choice and has a very different effect!
Couldn't agree more. People on coke are not sociable people. E's were called happy pills for a reason. Nowadays people are in the toilets snorting coke, thinking they're gangsters, and when it takes effect they're ready to fight King Kong!!!
[quote][p][bold]vivelavive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BURIRAM[/bold] wrote: Why are clubs open so late, to much alcohol, shut them at 2am[/p][/quote]I think its great clubs are open late the vast majority of people enjoy themselves and control there drinking.The problem these days is drugs which make people unpredictable,since the cuts to the police where visable police have just about disappeared people can now openly deal and use drugs after dark.Where do you draw the line if you clampdown on drugs clubs would probably be half empty I wish we could turn the clocks back when it was just drink people used.But venues hire private security to try to control whats happening in venues but they cant control whats happening on our now virtually unpoliced streets after dark.[/p][/quote]I used to go clubbing throughout the 90's when everyone was taking ecstasy, you would go to the bar and all people wanted was a glass of water, hardly any booze sold at all, and guess what no violence, (i think its impossible to get violent on E) i now go to pubs where everyone is drinking and fights breakout all the time.[/p][/quote]Also, in the past 10-15 years cocaine has replaced ecstasy as the party drug of choice and has a very different effect![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. People on coke are not sociable people. E's were called happy pills for a reason. Nowadays people are in the toilets snorting coke, thinking they're gangsters, and when it takes effect they're ready to fight King Kong!!! LargeAndInCharge
  • Score: 11

3:44pm Wed 8 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

downbythesea wrote:
There will always be fights amongst some drunk people! That's a FACT!

You can't blame it all on the breweries though, MOST people I know, drink at home before going out clubbing as it's much cheaper, then buy a couple of vastly more expensive drinks in clubs.

I mean, it's 90p or so for an alco-pop / bottle of beer at home, or on average £3.80 in a club...

The supermarkets also bear some responsibility for discounting alcohol with their daft 2 cases for £12 promotions, and super strength own brand lager and cider at ridiculously cheap prices.

Mind you, you are right about the different "scenes" gay / straight in Brighton, I have in 20 years of clubbing in Brighton most weekends, personally seen maybe 5 or 6 fights in gay clubs, a couple of which were definitely "handbags at dawn" lol, but very very considerably more in straight pubs and clubs which I no longer go to as it's just not a nice place to be with drunken Crawley / London folk (I'm generalising there before anyone jumps on their high horse!).

Tougher sentences may help, but pricing is probably more important at supermarkets / small offies!
Tougher sentencing definitely, but to blame the supermarkets for people being violent is, if you will excuse the pun, a stab in the dark. Looking at it from a wider viewpoint, thousands upon thousands of people practice this pre-loading technique at weekends, myself included, it is a good way to save money. Once I'm steamboats all I care about is flirting, having a little dance, enjoying a night out, and the last thing I would want to be involved in is a fight, it's so not my idea of fun. As an assist to myself to avoid this, I just don't go anywhere near West St, and the clubs within a small radius of it, as these places seem to only attract those with a different mentality to the masses of people who can enjoy a nice time. Think about how many paying customers there are on a given weekend, and take the percentage of the ones causing trouble/assaulting/(
not) being arrested... the police have some responsibility here, these dispersal orders they issue just mean that its ok to chin somebody, then be sent away from the area, potentially to chin everyone on the way, this is wrong and if you assault somebody, you should be in custody for it, not staggering home full of Jager and adrenaline. We don't need expensive drinks, we need effective policing, and also for licensed premises to stop selling even more alcohol to already drunk folk who can't handle it.
[quote][p][bold]downbythesea[/bold] wrote: There will always be fights amongst some drunk people! That's a FACT! You can't blame it all on the breweries though, MOST people I know, drink at home before going out clubbing as it's much cheaper, then buy a couple of vastly more expensive drinks in clubs. I mean, it's 90p or so for an alco-pop / bottle of beer at home, or on average £3.80 in a club... The supermarkets also bear some responsibility for discounting alcohol with their daft 2 cases for £12 promotions, and super strength own brand lager and cider at ridiculously cheap prices. Mind you, you are right about the different "scenes" gay / straight in Brighton, I have in 20 years of clubbing in Brighton most weekends, personally seen maybe 5 or 6 fights in gay clubs, a couple of which were definitely "handbags at dawn" lol, but very very considerably more in straight pubs and clubs which I no longer go to as it's just not a nice place to be with drunken Crawley / London folk (I'm generalising there before anyone jumps on their high horse!). Tougher sentences may help, but pricing is probably more important at supermarkets / small offies![/p][/quote]Tougher sentencing definitely, but to blame the supermarkets for people being violent is, if you will excuse the pun, a stab in the dark. Looking at it from a wider viewpoint, thousands upon thousands of people practice this pre-loading technique at weekends, myself included, it is a good way to save money. Once I'm steamboats all I care about is flirting, having a little dance, enjoying a night out, and the last thing I would want to be involved in is a fight, it's so not my idea of fun. As an assist to myself to avoid this, I just don't go anywhere near West St, and the clubs within a small radius of it, as these places seem to only attract those with a different mentality to the masses of people who can enjoy a nice time. Think about how many paying customers there are on a given weekend, and take the percentage of the ones causing trouble/assaulting/( not) being arrested... the police have some responsibility here, these dispersal orders they issue just mean that its ok to chin somebody, then be sent away from the area, potentially to chin everyone on the way, this is wrong and if you assault somebody, you should be in custody for it, not staggering home full of Jager and adrenaline. We don't need expensive drinks, we need effective policing, and also for licensed premises to stop selling even more alcohol to already drunk folk who can't handle it. All 9 of me
  • Score: 7

4:10pm Wed 8 Jan 14

TonyTony says...

clubrob6 wrote:
NickBrt wrote:
This sort of things happens more and more at straight clubs. Clearly the straight lifestyle is abhorrent and violent and should be abolished.
Unfortunately it happens in our gay nightclubs and bars too now which used to be very rare until straights started to use them in large numbers which is not bad if they behave themselves but it has now got to the stage a safe haven for gays does not exist.
Never been any violence in gay clubs ever has there?
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: This sort of things happens more and more at straight clubs. Clearly the straight lifestyle is abhorrent and violent and should be abolished.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately it happens in our gay nightclubs and bars too now which used to be very rare until straights started to use them in large numbers which is not bad if they behave themselves but it has now got to the stage a safe haven for gays does not exist.[/p][/quote]Never been any violence in gay clubs ever has there? TonyTony
  • Score: -1

4:46pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

TonyTony wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
NickBrt wrote:
This sort of things happens more and more at straight clubs. Clearly the straight lifestyle is abhorrent and violent and should be abolished.
Unfortunately it happens in our gay nightclubs and bars too now which used to be very rare until straights started to use them in large numbers which is not bad if they behave themselves but it has now got to the stage a safe haven for gays does not exist.
Never been any violence in gay clubs ever has there?
Hes obviously never been to the bulldog, Nor have I I may add lol *whoops*
[quote][p][bold]TonyTony[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: This sort of things happens more and more at straight clubs. Clearly the straight lifestyle is abhorrent and violent and should be abolished.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately it happens in our gay nightclubs and bars too now which used to be very rare until straights started to use them in large numbers which is not bad if they behave themselves but it has now got to the stage a safe haven for gays does not exist.[/p][/quote]Never been any violence in gay clubs ever has there?[/p][/quote]Hes obviously never been to the bulldog, Nor have I I may add lol *whoops* Brighton1000
  • Score: 3

5:06pm Wed 8 Jan 14

kerryfee says...

I don't think the council really care what happens in the evenings at night spots. They are all at home tucked up in bed and it doesn't effect them. After a NYE of violence at various places in Brighton, they automatically grant a club licence to a place in Dyke Rd simply because it had one years ago. It seems if a building has been licenced in the past it can get another no problem. This is a residential area and all previous clubs have failed, the police didn't even get a chance to object , let alone the residents.
I don't think the council really care what happens in the evenings at night spots. They are all at home tucked up in bed and it doesn't effect them. After a NYE of violence at various places in Brighton, they automatically grant a club licence to a place in Dyke Rd simply because it had one years ago. It seems if a building has been licenced in the past it can get another no problem. This is a residential area and all previous clubs have failed, the police didn't even get a chance to object , let alone the residents. kerryfee
  • Score: 3

7:10pm Wed 8 Jan 14

hubby says...

Too many coke heads,and people seem to think it is "normal" to take the stuff.
People born in the 60's who have had kids have failed us.Their kids and grandkids have been allowed to run wild.
Too many coke heads,and people seem to think it is "normal" to take the stuff. People born in the 60's who have had kids have failed us.Their kids and grandkids have been allowed to run wild. hubby
  • Score: -1

11:00pm Wed 8 Jan 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

hubby wrote:
Too many coke heads,and people seem to think it is "normal" to take the stuff.
People born in the 60's who have had kids have failed us.Their kids and grandkids have been allowed to run wild.
Rubbish!

The authorities need to clamp down far more and the reason they don't is because our government is quite happy for so many to be drugged out of their heads. You are aware that our government used to supply cocaine to the Chinese to keep them docile aren't you? Find out your facts and learn what our governments have been up to and still are.
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: Too many coke heads,and people seem to think it is "normal" to take the stuff. People born in the 60's who have had kids have failed us.Their kids and grandkids have been allowed to run wild.[/p][/quote]Rubbish! The authorities need to clamp down far more and the reason they don't is because our government is quite happy for so many to be drugged out of their heads. You are aware that our government used to supply cocaine to the Chinese to keep them docile aren't you? Find out your facts and learn what our governments have been up to and still are. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: -2

9:46pm Thu 9 Jan 14

DCCCCCC says...

TheDrive wrote:
This isn't a symptom of Brighton, which is still a fantastic place to live. And it's not a symptom of late night bars and clubs that people love going to - and why not? It's because we have a liberal legal system where violent behaviour is not properly punished. Harder prisons and longer sentences are the only deterrent. Forget rehabilitation of violent people - its a waste of time. If people like this lads attacker knew they would end up in prison for five years, it would have never happened in the first place.
I don't agree with you about Brighton being a fantastic place to live. I actually think it's a bit of a dump however, I do agree about issuing harder penalties although I was told recently that many barristers are now out of work due to a great reduction in the number of people being prosecuted. Prisons are so overcrowded, so many more people are being let off the hook!
[quote][p][bold]TheDrive[/bold] wrote: This isn't a symptom of Brighton, which is still a fantastic place to live. And it's not a symptom of late night bars and clubs that people love going to - and why not? It's because we have a liberal legal system where violent behaviour is not properly punished. Harder prisons and longer sentences are the only deterrent. Forget rehabilitation of violent people - its a waste of time. If people like this lads attacker knew they would end up in prison for five years, it would have never happened in the first place.[/p][/quote]I don't agree with you about Brighton being a fantastic place to live. I actually think it's a bit of a dump however, I do agree about issuing harder penalties although I was told recently that many barristers are now out of work due to a great reduction in the number of people being prosecuted. Prisons are so overcrowded, so many more people are being let off the hook! DCCCCCC
  • Score: 2

8:33pm Fri 10 Jan 14

KarenT says...

Enforced sterilisation. Why won't anyone listen to me???
Enforced sterilisation. Why won't anyone listen to me??? KarenT
  • Score: 0

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