Farmers shot four dogs in one week

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Farmers are shooting and killing dogs which are worrying their sheep.

In the past week in East Sussex four dogs have been shot by farmers who are upset they are chasing and killing their sheep.

Meanwhile a woman is due to be sentenced after admitting four counts of sheep worrying.

Jobless Deborah Taylor, 46, Friars Gate, Crowborough, appeared in court charged with four offences of owning a dog worrying livestock and will face her punishment on February 5.

Sussex Police said Taylor’s dogs were seen chasing and killing sheep on four occasions in December and November last year.

As a result six sheep died or had to be put to sleep.

Separately to this other dogs have been killed by farmers.

On January 6, two dogs killed a sheep and were seen attacking the rest of the flock in Groombridge.

The farmer went out but the dogs disappeared.

At about 3.30am on January 7, the same two dogs came back and killed a further three sheep, so the farmer shot the two dogs dead.

On January 9, two dogs attacked a flock of sheep at a farm in Chuck Hatch, Hartfield.

The farmer shot the two dogs dead. One sheep was put to sleep and two others have life-threatening injuries.

Police also traced the owner of some dogs who were chasing sheep on Ashdown Forest on October 7.

On this occasion no sheep were injured, although officers spoke to the dog owners and gave them advice about keeping their dogs under control.

PC Jennifer Black said dog owners needed to be more aware sheep worrying is an offence and dogs could be shot by farmers.

She said: "The attacks on sheep are often by dogs who have escaped from their own gardens.

“People need to check their fences and do everything they possibly can to get their dogs back if they do escape.

“Owners do not know what their dogs may be up to when they have escaped.

“Even docile dogs at home, are capable of chasing sheep, which may result in a pregnant sheep aborting its lamb or having to be put to sleep as a result of sustained injuries. Livestock are a farmers' livelihood and dead and injured sheep can cause significant financial loss and great upset. Please keep your dogs under control at all times."

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4:45pm Mon 13 Jan 14

rogerthefish says...

Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way!
Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way! rogerthefish
  • Score: -17

4:52pm Mon 13 Jan 14

The Prophet of Doom says...

Although the dogs are acting on instinct and nature, once again animals suffer at the stupidity of Man.
Although the dogs are acting on instinct and nature, once again animals suffer at the stupidity of Man. The Prophet of Doom
  • Score: 17

5:32pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

rogerthefish wrote:
Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way!
Dogs can't read signs. And if you are with your dog and it's on a short lead there would not be any need for signs when you are walking as a 'guest on other people's land.
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way![/p][/quote]Dogs can't read signs. And if you are with your dog and it's on a short lead there would not be any need for signs when you are walking as a 'guest on other people's land. Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: 48

5:50pm Mon 13 Jan 14

John Steed says...

two dogs returned at 3.30AM. thats the middle of the night, who lets their mutts roam at that time of night. the owners should be prosecuted.
two dogs returned at 3.30AM. thats the middle of the night, who lets their mutts roam at that time of night. the owners should be prosecuted. John Steed
  • Score: 56

7:06pm Mon 13 Jan 14

rogerthefish says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way!
Dogs can't read signs. And if you are with your dog and it's on a short lead there would not be any need for signs when you are walking as a 'guest on other people's land.
Agreed dogs can't read sign, but look around Lewes stables area they have signs on gates, Dogs should be allowed to roam when with owners but owners can't see over brows of hills.
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way![/p][/quote]Dogs can't read signs. And if you are with your dog and it's on a short lead there would not be any need for signs when you are walking as a 'guest on other people's land.[/p][/quote]Agreed dogs can't read sign, but look around Lewes stables area they have signs on gates, Dogs should be allowed to roam when with owners but owners can't see over brows of hills. rogerthefish
  • Score: -17

8:54pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Brighton Living says...

rogerthefish wrote:
Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way!
Dogs can't read signs. And if you are with your dog and it's on a short lead there would not be any need for signs when you are walking as a 'guest on other people's land.
Agreed dogs can't read sign, but look around Lewes stables area they have signs on gates, Dogs should be allowed to roam when with owners but owners can't see over brows of hills.
****!
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way![/p][/quote]Dogs can't read signs. And if you are with your dog and it's on a short lead there would not be any need for signs when you are walking as a 'guest on other people's land.[/p][/quote]Agreed dogs can't read sign, but look around Lewes stables area they have signs on gates, Dogs should be allowed to roam when with owners but owners can't see over brows of hills.[/p][/quote]****! Brighton Living
  • Score: 6

9:14pm Mon 13 Jan 14

melee says...

People should know where their dogs are. If your dog is running free out of your sight it is not under your control, therefore if you can't see over the hill call your dog back until you can!
People should know where their dogs are. If your dog is running free out of your sight it is not under your control, therefore if you can't see over the hill call your dog back until you can! melee
  • Score: 21

9:46pm Mon 13 Jan 14

voiceofthescoombe says...

Top of the downs near me the council has put up a sign about the lambing season and keep dogs on the lead but forget to put any mention of when it actually starts
Top of the downs near me the council has put up a sign about the lambing season and keep dogs on the lead but forget to put any mention of when it actually starts voiceofthescoombe
  • Score: 3

10:39pm Mon 13 Jan 14

andyfm says...

rogerthefish wrote:
Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way!
You have the mentality of a dog!!! I say shoot the owners as well as the dogs!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way![/p][/quote]You have the mentality of a dog!!! I say shoot the owners as well as the dogs!!!!!! andyfm
  • Score: -3

11:45pm Mon 13 Jan 14

qm says...

voiceofthescoombe wrote:
Top of the downs near me the council has put up a sign about the lambing season and keep dogs on the lead but forget to put any mention of when it actually starts
If in doubt . . . . . . .
[quote][p][bold]voiceofthescoombe[/bold] wrote: Top of the downs near me the council has put up a sign about the lambing season and keep dogs on the lead but forget to put any mention of when it actually starts[/p][/quote]If in doubt . . . . . . . qm
  • Score: 9

1:59am Tue 14 Jan 14

Brighton Visitor says...

andyfm wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way!
You have the mentality of a dog!!! I say shoot the owners as well as the dogs!!!!!!
I'd rather shoot the farmer.
[quote][p][bold]andyfm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way![/p][/quote]You have the mentality of a dog!!! I say shoot the owners as well as the dogs!!!!!![/p][/quote]I'd rather shoot the farmer. Brighton Visitor
  • Score: -18

2:58am Tue 14 Jan 14

Zeta Function says...

Why are dog owners using Boundary Passage: the twitten that links Western Rd with Landsdowne Rd, as a central dog toilet?

The faeces is piling up and rapidly becoming a health hazard. Rain water runs down the twitten into Western Rd contaminated with the stuff. It sticks onto footwear and is difficult to remove.

I'd like to see tough action. How about CCTV & better lighting? If there's no improvement then dogs will have to licenced.
Why are dog owners using Boundary Passage: the twitten that links Western Rd with Landsdowne Rd, as a central dog toilet? The faeces is piling up and rapidly becoming a health hazard. Rain water runs down the twitten into Western Rd contaminated with the stuff. It sticks onto footwear and is difficult to remove. I'd like to see tough action. How about CCTV & better lighting? If there's no improvement then dogs will have to licenced. Zeta Function
  • Score: 12

9:06am Tue 14 Jan 14

Dazzer6666 says...

Dogs are already licensed aren't they ? I spend a lot of time on the Downs and would observe that most dog owners are pretty responsible. As with most things though there are a minority that give the rest a bad name by not controlling their pets properly, or keeping them on leads when they should. Agree signage is useful so anyone entering a field is in no doubt that there might be livestock present.
Dogs are already licensed aren't they ? I spend a lot of time on the Downs and would observe that most dog owners are pretty responsible. As with most things though there are a minority that give the rest a bad name by not controlling their pets properly, or keeping them on leads when they should. Agree signage is useful so anyone entering a field is in no doubt that there might be livestock present. Dazzer6666
  • Score: 4

9:45am Tue 14 Jan 14

monkeymoo says...

If any farmers shoot any more dogs...can i have them? They are remarkably tasty when slow roasted!
If any farmers shoot any more dogs...can i have them? They are remarkably tasty when slow roasted! monkeymoo
  • Score: -1

9:46am Tue 14 Jan 14

Nobleox says...

andyfm wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way!
You have the mentality of a dog!!! I say shoot the owners as well as the dogs!!!!!!
Judging from your posts you should pray that when re-born
you have just a fraction of the mentality of a dog.
[quote][p][bold]andyfm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: Good idea is for farmers to have a sign on the gate saying "sheep in field" or not, sometimes you can't see over hills, this has happened to me on the South Downs way![/p][/quote]You have the mentality of a dog!!! I say shoot the owners as well as the dogs!!!!!![/p][/quote]Judging from your posts you should pray that when re-born you have just a fraction of the mentality of a dog. Nobleox
  • Score: 3

9:54am Tue 14 Jan 14

Mr Sworld says...

Dazzer6666 wrote:
Dogs are already licensed aren't they ? I spend a lot of time on the Downs and would observe that most dog owners are pretty responsible. As with most things though there are a minority that give the rest a bad name by not controlling their pets properly, or keeping them on leads when they should. Agree signage is useful so anyone entering a field is in no doubt that there might be livestock present.
You've not needed a dog license since 1987.

You do, I think, need it to have a collar with a tag that has your name and address on it or risk up to a £5000 fine.
[quote][p][bold]Dazzer6666[/bold] wrote: Dogs are already licensed aren't they ? I spend a lot of time on the Downs and would observe that most dog owners are pretty responsible. As with most things though there are a minority that give the rest a bad name by not controlling their pets properly, or keeping them on leads when they should. Agree signage is useful so anyone entering a field is in no doubt that there might be livestock present.[/p][/quote]You've not needed a dog license since 1987. You do, I think, need it to have a collar with a tag that has your name and address on it or risk up to a £5000 fine. Mr Sworld
  • Score: 5

10:01am Tue 14 Jan 14

Juleyanne says...

Agree with Dazzer6666, the majority of dog owners are responsible. It is the few that ruin it for the majority. Why can't farmers tranquilize problem dogs rather than shooting them? The owner is where the buck stops and there should be heavy fines and control orders for those owners. I believe that fellow responsible dog owners and passers by, would be more likely to immediately report problem dogs if farmers used tranquilization on first offence rather than killing them! It is a dilemma, save the sheep and have the dog shot dead or vice versa, no animal lover wants either. Perhaps farmers should consider this approach to encourage more fast track reporting and have emergency mobile numbers clearly displayed so walkers and cyclists can quickly report incidents without feeling they are condemning any animal to certain death.
Agree with Dazzer6666, the majority of dog owners are responsible. It is the few that ruin it for the majority. Why can't farmers tranquilize problem dogs rather than shooting them? The owner is where the buck stops and there should be heavy fines and control orders for those owners. I believe that fellow responsible dog owners and passers by, would be more likely to immediately report problem dogs if farmers used tranquilization on first offence rather than killing them! It is a dilemma, save the sheep and have the dog shot dead or vice versa, no animal lover wants either. Perhaps farmers should consider this approach to encourage more fast track reporting and have emergency mobile numbers clearly displayed so walkers and cyclists can quickly report incidents without feeling they are condemning any animal to certain death. Juleyanne
  • Score: 3

11:22am Tue 14 Jan 14

milehi6854 says...

Dogs should always be kept under control when anywhere outside their home, this is specially true when they are in pairs or more on farmland..The owners are more to blame than the dogs, perhaps a few well aimed pellets might make them see sense but I doubt it. Farmers could try a bird scarer device but the best plan is to bring the dogs owners to court and hit them hard.
Dogs should always be kept under control when anywhere outside their home, this is specially true when they are in pairs or more on farmland..The owners are more to blame than the dogs, perhaps a few well aimed pellets might make them see sense but I doubt it. Farmers could try a bird scarer device but the best plan is to bring the dogs owners to court and hit them hard. milehi6854
  • Score: 6

12:47pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

Am I missing the point here, Isnt shooting and killing dogs illegal? Or am I going mad...
Am I missing the point here, Isnt shooting and killing dogs illegal? Or am I going mad... Brighton1000
  • Score: -9

1:58pm Tue 14 Jan 14

simps46 says...

Dazzer6666 wrote:
Dogs are already licensed aren't they ? I spend a lot of time on the Downs and would observe that most dog owners are pretty responsible. As with most things though there are a minority that give the rest a bad name by not controlling their pets properly, or keeping them on leads when they should. Agree signage is useful so anyone entering a field is in no doubt that there might be livestock present.
of course dogs arn't licensed
[quote][p][bold]Dazzer6666[/bold] wrote: Dogs are already licensed aren't they ? I spend a lot of time on the Downs and would observe that most dog owners are pretty responsible. As with most things though there are a minority that give the rest a bad name by not controlling their pets properly, or keeping them on leads when they should. Agree signage is useful so anyone entering a field is in no doubt that there might be livestock present.[/p][/quote]of course dogs arn't licensed simps46
  • Score: 3

2:35pm Tue 14 Jan 14

straightasadye says...

An eye for a eye and a tooth for a tooth.
Perhaps it should be made legal for the public to shoot a farmer dead
when his/her cattle kills a person walking on 'public' land?
An eye for a eye and a tooth for a tooth. Perhaps it should be made legal for the public to shoot a farmer dead when his/her cattle kills a person walking on 'public' land? straightasadye
  • Score: -7

3:40pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Harry Brown says...

Brighton1000 wrote:
Am I missing the point here, Isnt shooting and killing dogs illegal? Or am I going mad...
No, must be going mad. Landowners are perfectly entitled to shoot dogs if they are worrying livestock and not under control. However, the law here is pretty grey in numerous different circumstances and there are a lot of considerations to take into account before (and as a last resort) a famer decides to shoot the dog. Four in a week seems pretty high and I would say this is two very unusual cases, but the farmers would seem to have acted perfectly within the law.
[quote][p][bold]Brighton1000[/bold] wrote: Am I missing the point here, Isnt shooting and killing dogs illegal? Or am I going mad...[/p][/quote]No, must be going mad. Landowners are perfectly entitled to shoot dogs if they are worrying livestock and not under control. However, the law here is pretty grey in numerous different circumstances and there are a lot of considerations to take into account before (and as a last resort) a famer decides to shoot the dog. Four in a week seems pretty high and I would say this is two very unusual cases, but the farmers would seem to have acted perfectly within the law. Harry Brown
  • Score: 8

5:17pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

Harry Brown wrote:
Brighton1000 wrote:
Am I missing the point here, Isnt shooting and killing dogs illegal? Or am I going mad...
No, must be going mad. Landowners are perfectly entitled to shoot dogs if they are worrying livestock and not under control. However, the law here is pretty grey in numerous different circumstances and there are a lot of considerations to take into account before (and as a last resort) a famer decides to shoot the dog. Four in a week seems pretty high and I would say this is two very unusual cases, but the farmers would seem to have acted perfectly within the law.
Wow, I never knew that, Does the same apply to the pesky hound next door who likes to howl all night? (I jest obviously).
[quote][p][bold]Harry Brown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brighton1000[/bold] wrote: Am I missing the point here, Isnt shooting and killing dogs illegal? Or am I going mad...[/p][/quote]No, must be going mad. Landowners are perfectly entitled to shoot dogs if they are worrying livestock and not under control. However, the law here is pretty grey in numerous different circumstances and there are a lot of considerations to take into account before (and as a last resort) a famer decides to shoot the dog. Four in a week seems pretty high and I would say this is two very unusual cases, but the farmers would seem to have acted perfectly within the law.[/p][/quote]Wow, I never knew that, Does the same apply to the pesky hound next door who likes to howl all night? (I jest obviously). Brighton1000
  • Score: 0

9:42am Wed 15 Jan 14

Juleyanne says...

This also raises the point that dog owners must check their fencing and gates especially after recent storms. It is sometimes the case, that dogs have escaped from poorly secured gardens onto adjacent farmland. Apparently farmers legally have to exhaust all other efforts to catch the dog before taking this final step! I fear however, many farmers do not!
This also raises the point that dog owners must check their fencing and gates especially after recent storms. It is sometimes the case, that dogs have escaped from poorly secured gardens onto adjacent farmland. Apparently farmers legally have to exhaust all other efforts to catch the dog before taking this final step! I fear however, many farmers do not! Juleyanne
  • Score: 0

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