March for England set to return to Brighton

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Nationalists are set to once again descend upon Brighton and Hove for the annual March for England.

Far-right groups have issued a rallying call after setting the date for this year’s event as April 27.

Last year saw the city grind to a halt as a £500,000 police operation struggled to keep demonstrators and anti-fascist groups apart.

As well as violent running street battles, traders were left counting their losses as large areas of the city shut down for the day.


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A promotional poster for this year’s event, which has been distributed around far-right websites and Facebook pages, reads: “Smash Unite Against Fascism Brighton 2014. Standing tall and free to march the streets of England.”

Scores of comments have been left on social media websites responding to the event, many of which pledge violence.

Jon Sei King, from Belfast, said: “I’ll be there same as every year. Defo bruv and smash some commies [sic].”

Simon Wyi – real name Simon Scott – also from Yorkshire, added: “Lets hit Brighton Antifa [sic].”

A Casuals United blog also issued a rallying call yesterday. Under the title “National callout for Brighton March for England April 27”, they said: “This is not a demo it is a St George’s Day march which for the past three years has been violently attacked by the left while a blind eye is turned by the police. What could be more important that defending the right to march on this day? [sic].”

The event has been held annually since 2010 to coincide with St George’s Day.

Gary Hastings, editor of anti-fascist website EDL News, told The Argus nationalists from across the country were planning on attending the event.

He said: “We have been monitoring what has been said and there are people from all over the country talking about it.

“Just from reading the messages you can see that many are just coming down to cause trouble”.

He added: “They pick Brighton because they see the city as having a very left wing liberal population.

“They view the city as the enemy and so come down to cause trouble.”

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9:56am Mon 20 Jan 14

UppityPrimate says...

interesting stance for an organisation that is supposedly not fascism. 'lets go and smash the anti-fascists! er.. for like, England and stuff. Bet there's only three busloads of them this year- Nick Griffin's Fiscally bankrupt now as well as morally, and Tommy Robinson is doing.. well, SOMETHING else.. i guess empty vessels are easier to fill than full ones eh.. still i'm sure they'll manage to achieve some kind of publicity for their ailing, wheezy, half-baked cause, and i'm sure the kids in face masks will strike a blow against whatever it is they're angry about this week. I sometimes wonder if we couldn't resolve all this with a game of british bulldog? charge for tickets, no glass or eye gouging, All proceeds go towards funding the hospital's A&E department?
interesting stance for an organisation that is supposedly not fascism. 'lets go and smash the anti-fascists! er.. for like, England and stuff. Bet there's only three busloads of them this year- Nick Griffin's Fiscally bankrupt now as well as morally, and Tommy Robinson is doing.. well, SOMETHING else.. i guess empty vessels are easier to fill than full ones eh.. still i'm sure they'll manage to achieve some kind of publicity for their ailing, wheezy, half-baked cause, and i'm sure the kids in face masks will strike a blow against whatever it is they're angry about this week. I sometimes wonder if we couldn't resolve all this with a game of british bulldog? charge for tickets, no glass or eye gouging, All proceeds go towards funding the hospital's A&E department? UppityPrimate

9:58am Mon 20 Jan 14

JHunty says...

Can't wait to see the greens supporting the right to free speech and the right to protest by standing shoulder to shoulder with the UAF and Smashedo (remember them?) as they attempt once again to use violence to prevent people exercising their democratic rights. Get ready for all the usual linguistic contortions and leaps of logic as the usual suspects claim that there is no contradiction in them claiming the right to protest whilst attempting to use violence to prevent others doing the same. Stand back in awe as Andy R for the third year running claims to have single handedly defeated a right wing, no facist, no nazi invasion of Brighton whilst all the while sing comedy songs about St George. Gasp as St Caroline bravely runs away before she sees any small children or nurses being hurt by the UAF. Groan as Gazz Scott comes out of retirement and lectures us all about our moral shortcomings oh how exciting it all is!
Can't wait to see the greens supporting the right to free speech and the right to protest by standing shoulder to shoulder with the UAF and Smashedo (remember them?) as they attempt once again to use violence to prevent people exercising their democratic rights. Get ready for all the usual linguistic contortions and leaps of logic as the usual suspects claim that there is no contradiction in them claiming the right to protest whilst attempting to use violence to prevent others doing the same. Stand back in awe as Andy R for the third year running claims to have single handedly defeated a right wing, no facist, no nazi invasion of Brighton whilst all the while sing comedy songs about St George. Gasp as St Caroline bravely runs away before she sees any small children or nurses being hurt by the UAF. Groan as Gazz Scott comes out of retirement and lectures us all about our moral shortcomings oh how exciting it all is! JHunty

10:05am Mon 20 Jan 14

fred clause says...

Oh goody knuckle dragging racists sponsored by the greens free speech policy once again ruining our city
Oh goody knuckle dragging racists sponsored by the greens free speech policy once again ruining our city fred clause

10:13am Mon 20 Jan 14

UppityPrimate says...

PRETTY sure free speech isn't a Green thing. Pretty sure it's been around for a while...
PRETTY sure free speech isn't a Green thing. Pretty sure it's been around for a while... UppityPrimate

10:16am Mon 20 Jan 14

pperrin says...

I understand the marches started in 2008 - led by the ghurkas.

But since 2010, the local loony lefty thugs have been trying to turn the event into a street battle. Each year, with the help of local councillors and your newspaper this has been getting more and more likely.

I assume their (and your) hope is to make it so violent that it gets banned.

However, as far as I can acertain, all arrests for violence have been of protestors, not of marchers. So it would seem that so far they have not risen to your bait.

I hope you fail to provoke widespread violence again this year.

You should be deeply ashamed - if you come to your senses (which I doubt will ever happen) you would be looking to sponsor and support St Geroges Day parades.
I understand the marches started in 2008 - led by the ghurkas. But since 2010, the local loony lefty thugs have been trying to turn the event into a street battle. Each year, with the help of local councillors and your newspaper this has been getting more and more likely. I assume their (and your) hope is to make it so violent that it gets banned. However, as far as I can acertain, all arrests for violence have been of protestors, not of marchers. So it would seem that so far they have not risen to your bait. I hope you fail to provoke widespread violence again this year. You should be deeply ashamed - if you come to your senses (which I doubt will ever happen) you would be looking to sponsor and support St Geroges Day parades. pperrin

10:25am Mon 20 Jan 14

Notters_Seagull says...

Could they perhaps be marched off the end of the pier?
Could they perhaps be marched off the end of the pier? Notters_Seagull

10:27am Mon 20 Jan 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

Something for the people of Brighton to avoid then.

What a shame that a day that should be about everything fantastic in Great Britain is being hijacked by violent thugs.
Something for the people of Brighton to avoid then. What a shame that a day that should be about everything fantastic in Great Britain is being hijacked by violent thugs. getThisCoalitionOut

10:31am Mon 20 Jan 14

The Prophet of Doom says...

Will this include the Brighton contingent of around seven who were attempting to drum-up interest/action/viol
ence in Churchill Square? The regular shopping folk found it very amusing.
Will this include the Brighton contingent of around seven who were attempting to drum-up interest/action/viol ence in Churchill Square? The regular shopping folk found it very amusing. The Prophet of Doom

10:46am Mon 20 Jan 14

LoveUK says...

Hate is not freedom of speech, this march should not be allowed
Hate is not freedom of speech, this march should not be allowed LoveUK

10:48am Mon 20 Jan 14

Richada says...

Never mind The Speed Trials - this is JUST the kind of event that the majority of we Brighton and Hove residents wast to see here!

Unlike the ratepayers, I'm sure the "protesters" rubbish will be taken away on time.
Never mind The Speed Trials - this is JUST the kind of event that the majority of we Brighton and Hove residents wast to see here! Unlike the ratepayers, I'm sure the "protesters" rubbish will be taken away on time. Richada

10:51am Mon 20 Jan 14

Fight_Back says...

Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.
Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace. Fight_Back

11:07am Mon 20 Jan 14

burgers1 says...

Not worried about either side but last year it was the left causing the trouble, they just don't get it do they. They say it's their right to protest, but if they don't like the message of the protest they will do all they can to stop that right to protest.

Which way do they want it?
Not worried about either side but last year it was the left causing the trouble, they just don't get it do they. They say it's their right to protest, but if they don't like the message of the protest they will do all they can to stop that right to protest. Which way do they want it? burgers1

11:20am Mon 20 Jan 14

Saltdean Resident says...

I thought that last year the police vastly outnumbered the, what was it 150 - 200 that turned up, hopefully less this year and soon will fizzle out all together and let the people of this city get on with their lives.
I thought that last year the police vastly outnumbered the, what was it 150 - 200 that turned up, hopefully less this year and soon will fizzle out all together and let the people of this city get on with their lives. Saltdean Resident

11:46am Mon 20 Jan 14

pperrin says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.
Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence.

The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers.

Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.[/p][/quote]Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence. The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers. Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban. pperrin

12:02pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Fight_Back says...

pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.
Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence.

The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers.

Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.
You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".
[quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.[/p][/quote]Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence. The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers. Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.[/p][/quote]You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight". Fight_Back

12:16pm Mon 20 Jan 14

pperrin says...

Fight_Back wrote:
pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.
Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence.

The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers.

Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.
You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".
It isn't an EDL march...

in 2010 when local councillors etc first called on UAF/HnH to protest against the march, many UAF'ers said 'No, its not EDL, its just a march'.

I understand EDL responded to the provocation by having an event in Brighton later that year.

in 2008 the gurkas led the march and it was a family oriented festival - it could be again if the lefty loons let it (by staying away).
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.[/p][/quote]Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence. The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers. Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.[/p][/quote]You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".[/p][/quote]It isn't an EDL march... in 2010 when local councillors etc first called on UAF/HnH to protest against the march, many UAF'ers said 'No, its not EDL, its just a march'. I understand EDL responded to the provocation by having an event in Brighton later that year. in 2008 the gurkas led the march and it was a family oriented festival - it could be again if the lefty loons let it (by staying away). pperrin

12:18pm Mon 20 Jan 14

pperrin says...

I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.
I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders. pperrin

12:26pm Mon 20 Jan 14

JHunty says...

UppityPrimate wrote:
PRETTY sure free speech isn't a Green thing. Pretty sure it's been around for a while...
It was Ben Duncan a leading Green who used his position to declare Brighton an open city for protestors to make their own. Unless of course the greens disagree with you in which case all of a sudden free speech and the right to protest disappear in a puff of hypocrisy.
[quote][p][bold]UppityPrimate[/bold] wrote: PRETTY sure free speech isn't a Green thing. Pretty sure it's been around for a while...[/p][/quote]It was Ben Duncan a leading Green who used his position to declare Brighton an open city for protestors to make their own. Unless of course the greens disagree with you in which case all of a sudden free speech and the right to protest disappear in a puff of hypocrisy. JHunty

12:35pm Mon 20 Jan 14

JHunty says...

pperrin wrote:
I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.
And I get a minus 14 for simply pointing out how hypocritical the greens have been over the years concerning this protest! How many other cities see this level of political violence? The actions of the UAF and Smashedo (a little known ineffective protest group from years ago) are yet to be condemned by the greens whose hypocrisy on this point is clear for all to see. Still no doubt the greens will be looking forward to the violence distracting from their internal woes and their inability to ensure that minimum levels of service are provided in Brighton such as collecting the bins on time. Where is St Caroline and here democratic deficit now? Now where to be seen.
[quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.[/p][/quote]And I get a minus 14 for simply pointing out how hypocritical the greens have been over the years concerning this protest! How many other cities see this level of political violence? The actions of the UAF and Smashedo (a little known ineffective protest group from years ago) are yet to be condemned by the greens whose hypocrisy on this point is clear for all to see. Still no doubt the greens will be looking forward to the violence distracting from their internal woes and their inability to ensure that minimum levels of service are provided in Brighton such as collecting the bins on time. Where is St Caroline and here democratic deficit now? Now where to be seen. JHunty

12:59pm Mon 20 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

pperrin wrote:
I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.
Shall we call you the retarded right in that case ?
thats the trouble with labels, they don't always match the outfit, but don't let me stop you having a completely biased rant.
[quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.[/p][/quote]Shall we call you the retarded right in that case ? thats the trouble with labels, they don't always match the outfit, but don't let me stop you having a completely biased rant. All 9 of me

1:37pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Fight_Back says...

pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.
Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence.

The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers.

Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.
You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".
It isn't an EDL march...

in 2010 when local councillors etc first called on UAF/HnH to protest against the march, many UAF'ers said 'No, its not EDL, its just a march'.

I understand EDL responded to the provocation by having an event in Brighton later that year.

in 2008 the gurkas led the march and it was a family oriented festival - it could be again if the lefty loons let it (by staying away).
Whoever it is - EDL, BNP, Nazis - they are a far right collection of thugs intent on stirring up trouble. They are then confronted by an equally brainless bunch of morons also intent on stirring up trouble. Neither are welcome in this fine city and should just foxtrot oscar. No true Brightonian or Hovite would support either bunch of thugs.
[quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.[/p][/quote]Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence. The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers. Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.[/p][/quote]You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".[/p][/quote]It isn't an EDL march... in 2010 when local councillors etc first called on UAF/HnH to protest against the march, many UAF'ers said 'No, its not EDL, its just a march'. I understand EDL responded to the provocation by having an event in Brighton later that year. in 2008 the gurkas led the march and it was a family oriented festival - it could be again if the lefty loons let it (by staying away).[/p][/quote]Whoever it is - EDL, BNP, Nazis - they are a far right collection of thugs intent on stirring up trouble. They are then confronted by an equally brainless bunch of morons also intent on stirring up trouble. Neither are welcome in this fine city and should just foxtrot oscar. No true Brightonian or Hovite would support either bunch of thugs. Fight_Back

1:50pm Mon 20 Jan 14

voiceofthescoombe says...

Its a dubious bunch of "patriots" who if they are not hard right have some very dodgy mates,links on their websites etc etc etc.
Vs every vauge lefty in Brighton whose listened to a blly bragg album and fancies recreating cable street.
Plus the police who need a weekends overtime.
Seven sisters country park would be an ideal setting for this annual farce plenty of space and theirs even an ice cream van for when everybody gets tired. Theirs even a pub for the we are not the edl honest
Its a dubious bunch of "patriots" who if they are not hard right have some very dodgy mates,links on their websites etc etc etc. Vs every vauge lefty in Brighton whose listened to a blly bragg album and fancies recreating cable street. Plus the police who need a weekends overtime. Seven sisters country park would be an ideal setting for this annual farce plenty of space and theirs even an ice cream van for when everybody gets tired. Theirs even a pub for the we are not the edl honest voiceofthescoombe

2:18pm Mon 20 Jan 14

pperrin says...

Fight_Back wrote:
pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.
Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence.

The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers.

Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.
You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".
It isn't an EDL march...

in 2010 when local councillors etc first called on UAF/HnH to protest against the march, many UAF'ers said 'No, its not EDL, its just a march'.

I understand EDL responded to the provocation by having an event in Brighton later that year.

in 2008 the gurkas led the march and it was a family oriented festival - it could be again if the lefty loons let it (by staying away).
Whoever it is - EDL, BNP, Nazis - they are a far right collection of thugs intent on stirring up trouble. They are then confronted by an equally brainless bunch of morons also intent on stirring up trouble. Neither are welcome in this fine city and should just foxtrot oscar. No true Brightonian or Hovite would support either bunch of thugs.
I would agree with you - if there was any evidence of the marchers being violent...

If there were any evidence of violence from the marchers the event would already have been banned - this is what the anti-march-protester
s seek to provoke (and presumably eventually will).

I think St Georges day festivities would be a good thing for Brighton to host - but some people think anything to do with England is nasty and must be suppressed.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.[/p][/quote]Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence. The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers. Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.[/p][/quote]You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".[/p][/quote]It isn't an EDL march... in 2010 when local councillors etc first called on UAF/HnH to protest against the march, many UAF'ers said 'No, its not EDL, its just a march'. I understand EDL responded to the provocation by having an event in Brighton later that year. in 2008 the gurkas led the march and it was a family oriented festival - it could be again if the lefty loons let it (by staying away).[/p][/quote]Whoever it is - EDL, BNP, Nazis - they are a far right collection of thugs intent on stirring up trouble. They are then confronted by an equally brainless bunch of morons also intent on stirring up trouble. Neither are welcome in this fine city and should just foxtrot oscar. No true Brightonian or Hovite would support either bunch of thugs.[/p][/quote]I would agree with you - if there was any evidence of the marchers being violent... If there were any evidence of violence from the marchers the event would already have been banned - this is what the anti-march-protester s seek to provoke (and presumably eventually will). I think St Georges day festivities would be a good thing for Brighton to host - but some people think anything to do with England is nasty and must be suppressed. pperrin

2:22pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Andy R says...

JHunty wrote:
Can't wait to see the greens supporting the right to free speech and the right to protest by standing shoulder to shoulder with the UAF and Smashedo (remember them?) as they attempt once again to use violence to prevent people exercising their democratic rights. Get ready for all the usual linguistic contortions and leaps of logic as the usual suspects claim that there is no contradiction in them claiming the right to protest whilst attempting to use violence to prevent others doing the same. Stand back in awe as Andy R for the third year running claims to have single handedly defeated a right wing, no facist, no nazi invasion of Brighton whilst all the while sing comedy songs about St George. Gasp as St Caroline bravely runs away before she sees any small children or nurses being hurt by the UAF. Groan as Gazz Scott comes out of retirement and lectures us all about our moral shortcomings oh how exciting it all is!
More incoherent burble from the fascists' local useful idiot.

No-one's ever claimed to have defeated them "single-handed". They are seen off every year by a mobilisation of thousands of local people, just as they have been for the last three years, just as Mosley was back in 1948, just as they always will be.

I predict fewer than ever this year - they are in total disarray, which I realise must be a terrible disappointment for AmboHunty.
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: Can't wait to see the greens supporting the right to free speech and the right to protest by standing shoulder to shoulder with the UAF and Smashedo (remember them?) as they attempt once again to use violence to prevent people exercising their democratic rights. Get ready for all the usual linguistic contortions and leaps of logic as the usual suspects claim that there is no contradiction in them claiming the right to protest whilst attempting to use violence to prevent others doing the same. Stand back in awe as Andy R for the third year running claims to have single handedly defeated a right wing, no facist, no nazi invasion of Brighton whilst all the while sing comedy songs about St George. Gasp as St Caroline bravely runs away before she sees any small children or nurses being hurt by the UAF. Groan as Gazz Scott comes out of retirement and lectures us all about our moral shortcomings oh how exciting it all is![/p][/quote]More incoherent burble from the fascists' local useful idiot. No-one's ever claimed to have defeated them "single-handed". They are seen off every year by a mobilisation of thousands of local people, just as they have been for the last three years, just as Mosley was back in 1948, just as they always will be. I predict fewer than ever this year - they are in total disarray, which I realise must be a terrible disappointment for AmboHunty. Andy R

2:44pm Mon 20 Jan 14

JHunty says...

Andy R wrote:
JHunty wrote:
Can't wait to see the greens supporting the right to free speech and the right to protest by standing shoulder to shoulder with the UAF and Smashedo (remember them?) as they attempt once again to use violence to prevent people exercising their democratic rights. Get ready for all the usual linguistic contortions and leaps of logic as the usual suspects claim that there is no contradiction in them claiming the right to protest whilst attempting to use violence to prevent others doing the same. Stand back in awe as Andy R for the third year running claims to have single handedly defeated a right wing, no facist, no nazi invasion of Brighton whilst all the while sing comedy songs about St George. Gasp as St Caroline bravely runs away before she sees any small children or nurses being hurt by the UAF. Groan as Gazz Scott comes out of retirement and lectures us all about our moral shortcomings oh how exciting it all is!
More incoherent burble from the fascists' local useful idiot.

No-one's ever claimed to have defeated them "single-handed"
. They are seen off every year by a mobilisation of thousands of local people, just as they have been for the last three years, just as Mosley was back in 1948, just as they always will be.

I predict fewer than ever this year - they are in total disarray, which I realise must be a terrible disappointment for AmboHunty.
Oh Andy R tell us all again how you single handedly fought off the right wing, no the facist, no the nazi hoard all the while singing your comedy songs about St George. Please do then you can tell us all about the time you fought the battle of cable street then you can tell us about the time you defeated Hitler. Don't do yourself down Andy, I'm sure your old bombast and bravado will return once you see the masked thugs of the UAF on the street bravely throwing rocks at nurses.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: Can't wait to see the greens supporting the right to free speech and the right to protest by standing shoulder to shoulder with the UAF and Smashedo (remember them?) as they attempt once again to use violence to prevent people exercising their democratic rights. Get ready for all the usual linguistic contortions and leaps of logic as the usual suspects claim that there is no contradiction in them claiming the right to protest whilst attempting to use violence to prevent others doing the same. Stand back in awe as Andy R for the third year running claims to have single handedly defeated a right wing, no facist, no nazi invasion of Brighton whilst all the while sing comedy songs about St George. Gasp as St Caroline bravely runs away before she sees any small children or nurses being hurt by the UAF. Groan as Gazz Scott comes out of retirement and lectures us all about our moral shortcomings oh how exciting it all is![/p][/quote]More incoherent burble from the fascists' local useful idiot. No-one's ever claimed to have defeated them "single-handed" . They are seen off every year by a mobilisation of thousands of local people, just as they have been for the last three years, just as Mosley was back in 1948, just as they always will be. I predict fewer than ever this year - they are in total disarray, which I realise must be a terrible disappointment for AmboHunty.[/p][/quote]Oh Andy R tell us all again how you single handedly fought off the right wing, no the facist, no the nazi hoard all the while singing your comedy songs about St George. Please do then you can tell us all about the time you fought the battle of cable street then you can tell us about the time you defeated Hitler. Don't do yourself down Andy, I'm sure your old bombast and bravado will return once you see the masked thugs of the UAF on the street bravely throwing rocks at nurses. JHunty

2:52pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Andy R says...

JHunty wrote:
Andy R wrote:
JHunty wrote:
Can't wait to see the greens supporting the right to free speech and the right to protest by standing shoulder to shoulder with the UAF and Smashedo (remember them?) as they attempt once again to use violence to prevent people exercising their democratic rights. Get ready for all the usual linguistic contortions and leaps of logic as the usual suspects claim that there is no contradiction in them claiming the right to protest whilst attempting to use violence to prevent others doing the same. Stand back in awe as Andy R for the third year running claims to have single handedly defeated a right wing, no facist, no nazi invasion of Brighton whilst all the while sing comedy songs about St George. Gasp as St Caroline bravely runs away before she sees any small children or nurses being hurt by the UAF. Groan as Gazz Scott comes out of retirement and lectures us all about our moral shortcomings oh how exciting it all is!
More incoherent burble from the fascists' local useful idiot.

No-one's ever claimed to have defeated them "single-handed"

. They are seen off every year by a mobilisation of thousands of local people, just as they have been for the last three years, just as Mosley was back in 1948, just as they always will be.

I predict fewer than ever this year - they are in total disarray, which I realise must be a terrible disappointment for AmboHunty.
Oh Andy R tell us all again how you single handedly fought off the right wing, no the facist, no the nazi hoard all the while singing your comedy songs about St George. Please do then you can tell us all about the time you fought the battle of cable street then you can tell us about the time you defeated Hitler. Don't do yourself down Andy, I'm sure your old bombast and bravado will return once you see the masked thugs of the UAF on the street bravely throwing rocks at nurses.
Easy does it! Waaay too many tablets washed down with something waaay too strong methinks.....
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: Can't wait to see the greens supporting the right to free speech and the right to protest by standing shoulder to shoulder with the UAF and Smashedo (remember them?) as they attempt once again to use violence to prevent people exercising their democratic rights. Get ready for all the usual linguistic contortions and leaps of logic as the usual suspects claim that there is no contradiction in them claiming the right to protest whilst attempting to use violence to prevent others doing the same. Stand back in awe as Andy R for the third year running claims to have single handedly defeated a right wing, no facist, no nazi invasion of Brighton whilst all the while sing comedy songs about St George. Gasp as St Caroline bravely runs away before she sees any small children or nurses being hurt by the UAF. Groan as Gazz Scott comes out of retirement and lectures us all about our moral shortcomings oh how exciting it all is![/p][/quote]More incoherent burble from the fascists' local useful idiot. No-one's ever claimed to have defeated them "single-handed" . They are seen off every year by a mobilisation of thousands of local people, just as they have been for the last three years, just as Mosley was back in 1948, just as they always will be. I predict fewer than ever this year - they are in total disarray, which I realise must be a terrible disappointment for AmboHunty.[/p][/quote]Oh Andy R tell us all again how you single handedly fought off the right wing, no the facist, no the nazi hoard all the while singing your comedy songs about St George. Please do then you can tell us all about the time you fought the battle of cable street then you can tell us about the time you defeated Hitler. Don't do yourself down Andy, I'm sure your old bombast and bravado will return once you see the masked thugs of the UAF on the street bravely throwing rocks at nurses.[/p][/quote]Easy does it! Waaay too many tablets washed down with something waaay too strong methinks..... Andy R

2:54pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Andy R says...

"Nurses".....wtf??
"Nurses".....wtf?? Andy R

3:17pm Mon 20 Jan 14

pperrin says...

Andy R wrote:
"Nurses".....wt
f??
http://www.theargus.
co.uk/news/10383030.
Nurse__25__could_los
e_the_sight_in_one_e
ye_following_March_f
or_England_violence_
in_Brighton/

If you read it carefully you can deduce it was anti-march protestors who were responsible. The Argus (of course) tries to give the impression that the marchers were responsible.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: "Nurses".....wt f??[/p][/quote]http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/10383030. Nurse__25__could_los e_the_sight_in_one_e ye_following_March_f or_England_violence_ in_Brighton/ If you read it carefully you can deduce it was anti-march protestors who were responsible. The Argus (of course) tries to give the impression that the marchers were responsible. pperrin

3:18pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clarkebrighton says...

Why don't the BONEHEADS go Somewhere else.
They are NOT welcome in Brighton and Hove City.
Why don't the BONEHEADS go Somewhere else. They are NOT welcome in Brighton and Hove City. clarkebrighton

3:49pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

UppityPrimate wrote:
interesting stance for an organisation that is supposedly not fascism. 'lets go and smash the anti-fascists! er.. for like, England and stuff. Bet there's only three busloads of them this year- Nick Griffin's Fiscally bankrupt now as well as morally, and Tommy Robinson is doing.. well, SOMETHING else.. i guess empty vessels are easier to fill than full ones eh.. still i'm sure they'll manage to achieve some kind of publicity for their ailing, wheezy, half-baked cause, and i'm sure the kids in face masks will strike a blow against whatever it is they're angry about this week. I sometimes wonder if we couldn't resolve all this with a game of british bulldog? charge for tickets, no glass or eye gouging, All proceeds go towards funding the hospital's A&E department?
You forgot to mention the most facist group the now Islamic extremist group the UAF,im not EDL,or BNP but any march the vast majority of trouble and arrests happen from the UAF,but the controlled media only report on the arrests fro EDL and BNP members even though sometimes more than a hundred UAF members get arrested.It was the UAF that was throwing things at people and at police horses.And one major point that has also been blocked by the government is one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events.So if the march for England march is banned so should the now Islamic extremist group the UAF.
[quote][p][bold]UppityPrimate[/bold] wrote: interesting stance for an organisation that is supposedly not fascism. 'lets go and smash the anti-fascists! er.. for like, England and stuff. Bet there's only three busloads of them this year- Nick Griffin's Fiscally bankrupt now as well as morally, and Tommy Robinson is doing.. well, SOMETHING else.. i guess empty vessels are easier to fill than full ones eh.. still i'm sure they'll manage to achieve some kind of publicity for their ailing, wheezy, half-baked cause, and i'm sure the kids in face masks will strike a blow against whatever it is they're angry about this week. I sometimes wonder if we couldn't resolve all this with a game of british bulldog? charge for tickets, no glass or eye gouging, All proceeds go towards funding the hospital's A&E department?[/p][/quote]You forgot to mention the most facist group the now Islamic extremist group the UAF,im not EDL,or BNP but any march the vast majority of trouble and arrests happen from the UAF,but the controlled media only report on the arrests fro EDL and BNP members even though sometimes more than a hundred UAF members get arrested.It was the UAF that was throwing things at people and at police horses.And one major point that has also been blocked by the government is one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events.So if the march for England march is banned so should the now Islamic extremist group the UAF. clubrob6

3:58pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

Lets get the facts right,before I continue im not EDL or BNP.But the vast majority of trouble at these events such as the march for England comes from the so called peaceful group the UAF,they are the ones hiding amongst the public throwing things and the vast majority of arrests at these events are UAF members but the media only reports on arrests from groups like EDL and BNP.The UAF started of with good intensions but has now been took over by Islamic extremists,a fact that's widely available on the internet but is not reported by the controlled media is that one of LEE RIGBYs murderers actually was one of the main speakers at UAF events the UAF is now basically a Islamic extremist group so don't be fooled by there title I would actually now call them UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.For the real facts on the UAF simply look up on the internet they are the most violent group in the UK.
Lets get the facts right,before I continue im not EDL or BNP.But the vast majority of trouble at these events such as the march for England comes from the so called peaceful group the UAF,they are the ones hiding amongst the public throwing things and the vast majority of arrests at these events are UAF members but the media only reports on arrests from groups like EDL and BNP.The UAF started of with good intensions but has now been took over by Islamic extremists,a fact that's widely available on the internet but is not reported by the controlled media is that one of LEE RIGBYs murderers actually was one of the main speakers at UAF events the UAF is now basically a Islamic extremist group so don't be fooled by there title I would actually now call them UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.For the real facts on the UAF simply look up on the internet they are the most violent group in the UK. clubrob6

3:59pm Mon 20 Jan 14

kult_dj_mandingo_blitt says...

Just ignore them.
Just ignore them. kult_dj_mandingo_blitt

4:01pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Fight_Back says...

pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.
Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence.

The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers.

Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.
You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".
It isn't an EDL march...

in 2010 when local councillors etc first called on UAF/HnH to protest against the march, many UAF'ers said 'No, its not EDL, its just a march'.

I understand EDL responded to the provocation by having an event in Brighton later that year.

in 2008 the gurkas led the march and it was a family oriented festival - it could be again if the lefty loons let it (by staying away).
Whoever it is - EDL, BNP, Nazis - they are a far right collection of thugs intent on stirring up trouble. They are then confronted by an equally brainless bunch of morons also intent on stirring up trouble. Neither are welcome in this fine city and should just foxtrot oscar. No true Brightonian or Hovite would support either bunch of thugs.
I would agree with you - if there was any evidence of the marchers being violent...

If there were any evidence of violence from the marchers the event would already have been banned - this is what the anti-march-protester

s seek to provoke (and presumably eventually will).

I think St Georges day festivities would be a good thing for Brighton to host - but some people think anything to do with England is nasty and must be suppressed.
We had a perfectly celebrated St Georges day in this city well before this gang of meat heads turned up thank you. Scouting and Guiding used to put on a wonderful parade before this bunch of racists and their equally idiotic counterparts in the anti-facist movement took over the city for the day. THEY SHOULD ALL JUST EFF OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.[/p][/quote]Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence. The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers. Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.[/p][/quote]You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".[/p][/quote]It isn't an EDL march... in 2010 when local councillors etc first called on UAF/HnH to protest against the march, many UAF'ers said 'No, its not EDL, its just a march'. I understand EDL responded to the provocation by having an event in Brighton later that year. in 2008 the gurkas led the march and it was a family oriented festival - it could be again if the lefty loons let it (by staying away).[/p][/quote]Whoever it is - EDL, BNP, Nazis - they are a far right collection of thugs intent on stirring up trouble. They are then confronted by an equally brainless bunch of morons also intent on stirring up trouble. Neither are welcome in this fine city and should just foxtrot oscar. No true Brightonian or Hovite would support either bunch of thugs.[/p][/quote]I would agree with you - if there was any evidence of the marchers being violent... If there were any evidence of violence from the marchers the event would already have been banned - this is what the anti-march-protester s seek to provoke (and presumably eventually will). I think St Georges day festivities would be a good thing for Brighton to host - but some people think anything to do with England is nasty and must be suppressed.[/p][/quote]We had a perfectly celebrated St Georges day in this city well before this gang of meat heads turned up thank you. Scouting and Guiding used to put on a wonderful parade before this bunch of racists and their equally idiotic counterparts in the anti-facist movement took over the city for the day. THEY SHOULD ALL JUST EFF OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fight_Back

4:11pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

pperrin wrote:
I understand the marches started in 2008 - led by the ghurkas.

But since 2010, the local loony lefty thugs have been trying to turn the event into a street battle. Each year, with the help of local councillors and your newspaper this has been getting more and more likely.

I assume their (and your) hope is to make it so violent that it gets banned.

However, as far as I can acertain, all arrests for violence have been of protestors, not of marchers. So it would seem that so far they have not risen to your bait.

I hope you fail to provoke widespread violence again this year.

You should be deeply ashamed - if you come to your senses (which I doubt will ever happen) you would be looking to sponsor and support St Geroges Day parades.
You are quite correct the vast majority of arrests are made with the now Islamic extremist group the UAF but the media don't report this,most of the trouble is caused by the extremist group the UAF FACT.One other point that's kept out of mainline news is that one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events.Notice also a large proportion of these Islamic extremists in the UAF cover there faces they are just out for trouble as they don't want the british public to know the true facts of whats happening in the UK getting covered up by the three main parties basically because they are to blame.If the march fo England gets banned the extremist group the UAF who Cameron supports should also be banned as they are the most violent group in the UK.
[quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: I understand the marches started in 2008 - led by the ghurkas. But since 2010, the local loony lefty thugs have been trying to turn the event into a street battle. Each year, with the help of local councillors and your newspaper this has been getting more and more likely. I assume their (and your) hope is to make it so violent that it gets banned. However, as far as I can acertain, all arrests for violence have been of protestors, not of marchers. So it would seem that so far they have not risen to your bait. I hope you fail to provoke widespread violence again this year. You should be deeply ashamed - if you come to your senses (which I doubt will ever happen) you would be looking to sponsor and support St Geroges Day parades.[/p][/quote]You are quite correct the vast majority of arrests are made with the now Islamic extremist group the UAF but the media don't report this,most of the trouble is caused by the extremist group the UAF FACT.One other point that's kept out of mainline news is that one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events.Notice also a large proportion of these Islamic extremists in the UAF cover there faces they are just out for trouble as they don't want the british public to know the true facts of whats happening in the UK getting covered up by the three main parties basically because they are to blame.If the march fo England gets banned the extremist group the UAF who Cameron supports should also be banned as they are the most violent group in the UK. clubrob6

4:21pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

pperrin wrote:
I understand the marches started in 2008 - led by the ghurkas.

But since 2010, the local loony lefty thugs have been trying to turn the event into a street battle. Each year, with the help of local councillors and your newspaper this has been getting more and more likely.

I assume their (and your) hope is to make it so violent that it gets banned.

However, as far as I can acertain, all arrests for violence have been of protestors, not of marchers. So it would seem that so far they have not risen to your bait.

I hope you fail to provoke widespread violence again this year.

You should be deeply ashamed - if you come to your senses (which I doubt will ever happen) you would be looking to sponsor and support St Geroges Day parades.
Well said its the UAF that cause trouble hiding cowardly with faces covered in the crowd.But notice even the argus is controlled as they too don't report this fact.I bet also the argus wont report the fact that one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events basically its not the marchers for ENGLAND the police need to be watching but the ISLAMIC EXTREMIST GROUP THE UAF.All media in the UK are controlled its sad that extremists out to cause trouble hide behind a name UAF knowing they are protected by the media and the government.Unfortuna
tely the public only go by the few arrests made in such groups as EDL,BNP because they are not told the fact that the vast majority of arrests are made with UAF members.
[quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: I understand the marches started in 2008 - led by the ghurkas. But since 2010, the local loony lefty thugs have been trying to turn the event into a street battle. Each year, with the help of local councillors and your newspaper this has been getting more and more likely. I assume their (and your) hope is to make it so violent that it gets banned. However, as far as I can acertain, all arrests for violence have been of protestors, not of marchers. So it would seem that so far they have not risen to your bait. I hope you fail to provoke widespread violence again this year. You should be deeply ashamed - if you come to your senses (which I doubt will ever happen) you would be looking to sponsor and support St Geroges Day parades.[/p][/quote]Well said its the UAF that cause trouble hiding cowardly with faces covered in the crowd.But notice even the argus is controlled as they too don't report this fact.I bet also the argus wont report the fact that one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events basically its not the marchers for ENGLAND the police need to be watching but the ISLAMIC EXTREMIST GROUP THE UAF.All media in the UK are controlled its sad that extremists out to cause trouble hide behind a name UAF knowing they are protected by the media and the government.Unfortuna tely the public only go by the few arrests made in such groups as EDL,BNP because they are not told the fact that the vast majority of arrests are made with UAF members. clubrob6

4:22pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Richada says...

kult_dj_mandingo_bli
tt
wrote:
Just ignore them.
Absolutely.

Starve them of attention and they will go elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]kult_dj_mandingo_bli tt[/bold] wrote: Just ignore them.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. Starve them of attention and they will go elsewhere. Richada

4:23pm Mon 20 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

Bladesmouth is going to love this thread, there's at least 4 people that he thinks are Gaz Scott,, looking forwards to your comments old billy10names
Bladesmouth is going to love this thread, there's at least 4 people that he thinks are Gaz Scott,, looking forwards to your comments old billy10names All 9 of me

4:28pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
Something for the people of Brighton to avoid then.

What a shame that a day that should be about everything fantastic in Great Britain is being hijacked by violent thugs.
Yes and the thugs go under the name of UAF where the vast majority of arrests are made.They are the ones in the crowds with there faces covered attacking the marchers and the police.If the march for England is cancelled the now Islamic extremist group the UAF should be also banned.A fact that's been kept quiet by the government and media is one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events.Im NOT EDL or BNP but it annoys me when extremists hide behind the name UAF as they know the controlled media including the argus only reports on arrests from the EDL and BNP.If anything all these groups especially the government funded UAF should be banned.
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: Something for the people of Brighton to avoid then. What a shame that a day that should be about everything fantastic in Great Britain is being hijacked by violent thugs.[/p][/quote]Yes and the thugs go under the name of UAF where the vast majority of arrests are made.They are the ones in the crowds with there faces covered attacking the marchers and the police.If the march for England is cancelled the now Islamic extremist group the UAF should be also banned.A fact that's been kept quiet by the government and media is one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events.Im NOT EDL or BNP but it annoys me when extremists hide behind the name UAF as they know the controlled media including the argus only reports on arrests from the EDL and BNP.If anything all these groups especially the government funded UAF should be banned. clubrob6

4:31pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.
Good you have made the point out either groups as the fact is that's not reported the vast majority of trouble comes from the now Islamic extremist group the UAF who had one of LEE RIGBYs murderers as a main speaker.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.[/p][/quote]Good you have made the point out either groups as the fact is that's not reported the vast majority of trouble comes from the now Islamic extremist group the UAF who had one of LEE RIGBYs murderers as a main speaker. clubrob6

4:37pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

LoveUK wrote:
Hate is not freedom of speech, this march should not be allowed
Im NOT EDL or BNP but true hatred is coming from the UAF where the vast majority of arrests are made.Unfortunately the government funded UAF has been took over by Islamic extremists even one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events.We used to be a free country but groups like the UAF are trying to stop this basically trying to stop the country knowing whats really going on and sadly supported by the controlled media.IF gets banned they should ALL be banned especially the UAF.
[quote][p][bold]LoveUK[/bold] wrote: Hate is not freedom of speech, this march should not be allowed[/p][/quote]Im NOT EDL or BNP but true hatred is coming from the UAF where the vast majority of arrests are made.Unfortunately the government funded UAF has been took over by Islamic extremists even one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events.We used to be a free country but groups like the UAF are trying to stop this basically trying to stop the country knowing whats really going on and sadly supported by the controlled media.IF gets banned they should ALL be banned especially the UAF. clubrob6

4:51pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

Fight_Back wrote:
pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.
Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence.

The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers.

Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.
You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".
The EDL are finished anyway,what you say would happen people would just ignore it but unfortunately the vast majority of the violence,trouble and arrests come from the UAF.So the police unfortunately have no option than to make it a large scale security operation to protect the public.The trouble is the UAF hide amongst the public with there faces covered just out to cause trouble.The UAF started of with good intensions against people with extreme views but unfortunately the UAF has now also been took over by people with extreme views.Make your own mind up one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events you don't get more extreme than that.The police have a very difficult job as the UAF don't assemble in one large group but hide amongst the public.Surely the best way to show you support against the march for England is to also have a peacefull march yourself then the police can let everyone have there opinion peacefully.Pity the media don't report the true facts what the public should be told the people that are actually attacking our police are actually UAF supporters.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.[/p][/quote]Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence. The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers. Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.[/p][/quote]You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".[/p][/quote]The EDL are finished anyway,what you say would happen people would just ignore it but unfortunately the vast majority of the violence,trouble and arrests come from the UAF[which the media don't report].So the police unfortunately have no option than to make it a large scale security operation to protect the public.The trouble is the UAF hide amongst the public with there faces covered just out to cause trouble.The UAF started of with good intensions against people with extreme views but unfortunately the UAF has now also been took over by people with extreme views.Make your own mind up one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events you don't get more extreme than that.The police have a very difficult job as the UAF don't assemble in one large group but hide amongst the public.Surely the best way to show you support against the march for England is to also have a peacefull march yourself then the police can let everyone have there opinion peacefully.Pity the media don't report the true facts what the public should be told the people that are actually attacking our police are actually UAF supporters. clubrob6

4:55pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

pperrin wrote:
I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.
Yes I agree the argus just like the rest of the controlled media hide the fact that its the UAF supporters that are out for trouble not the march for England.The argus also does not report that the UAF has also bee took over by extremists one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events.
[quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree the argus just like the rest of the controlled media hide the fact that its the UAF supporters that are out for trouble not the march for England.The argus also does not report that the UAF has also bee took over by extremists one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events. clubrob6

4:58pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Fight_Back says...

clubrob6 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.
Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence.

The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers.

Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.
You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".
The EDL are finished anyway,what you say would happen people would just ignore it but unfortunately the vast majority of the violence,trouble and arrests come from the UAF.So the police unfortunately have no option than to make it a large scale security operation to protect the public.The trouble is the UAF hide amongst the public with there faces covered just out to cause trouble.The UAF started of with good intensions against people with extreme views but unfortunately the UAF has now also been took over by people with extreme views.Make your own mind up one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events you don't get more extreme than that.The police have a very difficult job as the UAF don't assemble in one large group but hide amongst the public.Surely the best way to show you support against the march for England is to also have a peacefull march yourself then the police can let everyone have there opinion peacefully.Pity the media don't report the true facts what the public should be told the people that are actually attacking our police are actually UAF supporters.
Yes, well done, go away you and your type are not welcome in this city. You incite violence.
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.[/p][/quote]Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence. The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers. Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.[/p][/quote]You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".[/p][/quote]The EDL are finished anyway,what you say would happen people would just ignore it but unfortunately the vast majority of the violence,trouble and arrests come from the UAF[which the media don't report].So the police unfortunately have no option than to make it a large scale security operation to protect the public.The trouble is the UAF hide amongst the public with there faces covered just out to cause trouble.The UAF started of with good intensions against people with extreme views but unfortunately the UAF has now also been took over by people with extreme views.Make your own mind up one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events you don't get more extreme than that.The police have a very difficult job as the UAF don't assemble in one large group but hide amongst the public.Surely the best way to show you support against the march for England is to also have a peacefull march yourself then the police can let everyone have there opinion peacefully.Pity the media don't report the true facts what the public should be told the people that are actually attacking our police are actually UAF supporters.[/p][/quote]Yes, well done, go away you and your type are not welcome in this city. You incite violence. Fight_Back

4:59pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

Saltdean Resident wrote:
I thought that last year the police vastly outnumbered the, what was it 150 - 200 that turned up, hopefully less this year and soon will fizzle out all together and let the people of this city get on with their lives.
You are right but its not the march for England marchers that cause trouble its the UAF hiding amongst the public which is the cause of such an expensive police operation.The march would simply be ignored if the UAF kept away but they themselves are now an extremist group one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker for them.
[quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: I thought that last year the police vastly outnumbered the, what was it 150 - 200 that turned up, hopefully less this year and soon will fizzle out all together and let the people of this city get on with their lives.[/p][/quote]You are right but its not the march for England marchers that cause trouble its the UAF hiding amongst the public which is the cause of such an expensive police operation.The march would simply be ignored if the UAF kept away but they themselves are now an extremist group one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker for them. clubrob6

5:06pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

Fight_Back wrote:
pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.
Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence.

The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers.

Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.
You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".
It isn't an EDL march...

in 2010 when local councillors etc first called on UAF/HnH to protest against the march, many UAF'ers said 'No, its not EDL, its just a march'.

I understand EDL responded to the provocation by having an event in Brighton later that year.

in 2008 the gurkas led the march and it was a family oriented festival - it could be again if the lefty loons let it (by staying away).
Whoever it is - EDL, BNP, Nazis - they are a far right collection of thugs intent on stirring up trouble. They are then confronted by an equally brainless bunch of morons also intent on stirring up trouble. Neither are welcome in this fine city and should just foxtrot oscar. No true Brightonian or Hovite would support either bunch of thugs.
Read the facts the vast majority of violence and trouble comes from the UAF you wont see it reported in the media as they only report on arrests from such groups as the EDL and BNP.Unfortunately the UAF has now been took over by extremists one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker for them.Quite simply if the extremist group the UAF kept away the march as small as it is would be ignored.The UAF are the main ones wearing the masks.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.[/p][/quote]Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence. The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers. Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.[/p][/quote]You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".[/p][/quote]It isn't an EDL march... in 2010 when local councillors etc first called on UAF/HnH to protest against the march, many UAF'ers said 'No, its not EDL, its just a march'. I understand EDL responded to the provocation by having an event in Brighton later that year. in 2008 the gurkas led the march and it was a family oriented festival - it could be again if the lefty loons let it (by staying away).[/p][/quote]Whoever it is - EDL, BNP, Nazis - they are a far right collection of thugs intent on stirring up trouble. They are then confronted by an equally brainless bunch of morons also intent on stirring up trouble. Neither are welcome in this fine city and should just foxtrot oscar. No true Brightonian or Hovite would support either bunch of thugs.[/p][/quote]Read the facts the vast majority of violence and trouble comes from the UAF you wont see it reported in the media as they only report on arrests from such groups as the EDL and BNP.Unfortunately the UAF has now been took over by extremists one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker for them.Quite simply if the extremist group the UAF kept away the march as small as it is would be ignored.The UAF are the main ones wearing the masks. clubrob6

5:08pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Andy R says...

The people who attend this march target Brighton because they hate the place. They make no bones about it. In case you were wondering why they don't just organise "marches for England" in their own towns, they come here because they regard Brighton as "degenerate" and failing to live up (up?) to their standards of "Englishness".

Mind you I am kinda hoping that the pair who last year thought that the Pavilion was "this really massive mosque" turn up and make fools of themselves again....
The people who attend this march target Brighton because they hate the place. They make no bones about it. In case you were wondering why they don't just organise "marches for England" in their own towns, they come here because they regard Brighton as "degenerate" and failing to live up (up?) to their standards of "Englishness". Mind you I am kinda hoping that the pair who last year thought that the Pavilion was "this really massive mosque" turn up and make fools of themselves again.... Andy R

5:10pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
pperrin wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.
Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence.

The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers.

Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.
You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".
It isn't an EDL march...

in 2010 when local councillors etc first called on UAF/HnH to protest against the march, many UAF'ers said 'No, its not EDL, its just a march'.

I understand EDL responded to the provocation by having an event in Brighton later that year.

in 2008 the gurkas led the march and it was a family oriented festival - it could be again if the lefty loons let it (by staying away).
Whoever it is - EDL, BNP, Nazis - they are a far right collection of thugs intent on stirring up trouble. They are then confronted by an equally brainless bunch of morons also intent on stirring up trouble. Neither are welcome in this fine city and should just foxtrot oscar. No true Brightonian or Hovite would support either bunch of thugs.
I would agree with you - if there was any evidence of the marchers being violent...

If there were any evidence of violence from the marchers the event would already have been banned - this is what the anti-march-protester

s seek to provoke (and presumably eventually will).

I think St Georges day festivities would be a good thing for Brighton to host - but some people think anything to do with England is nasty and must be suppressed.
Especially the extremist group the UAF are trying to suppress anything English ,its not by chance that one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events.
[quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Neither group are welcome with their mindless violence - if they all want a fight then they should find somewhere deserted to do it out of the city and leave the real Brighton and Hove residents in peace.[/p][/quote]Only one side appears to have been violent - the protesters. As far as I know no marchers have been arrested for violence. The police claim they don't record which 'side' those arrested are on, but you can be sure the Argus would be making a huge song and dance about it if they had finally helped provoke a violent reaction from the marchers. Maybe they are hoping for better luck this year - stoke up violence followed by a ban.[/p][/quote]You might be right but both groups have the violence "bug". If people just ignored the EDL march and treated it as the insignificant event it really is then it would die out. You know, people should just continue with their shopping, eating and drinking and completely blank them. Unfortunately we have a hard left group in the city that are too stupid to understand this and so instead want to "protest" - for protest read "fight".[/p][/quote]It isn't an EDL march... in 2010 when local councillors etc first called on UAF/HnH to protest against the march, many UAF'ers said 'No, its not EDL, its just a march'. I understand EDL responded to the provocation by having an event in Brighton later that year. in 2008 the gurkas led the march and it was a family oriented festival - it could be again if the lefty loons let it (by staying away).[/p][/quote]Whoever it is - EDL, BNP, Nazis - they are a far right collection of thugs intent on stirring up trouble. They are then confronted by an equally brainless bunch of morons also intent on stirring up trouble. Neither are welcome in this fine city and should just foxtrot oscar. No true Brightonian or Hovite would support either bunch of thugs.[/p][/quote]I would agree with you - if there was any evidence of the marchers being violent... If there were any evidence of violence from the marchers the event would already have been banned - this is what the anti-march-protester s seek to provoke (and presumably eventually will). I think St Georges day festivities would be a good thing for Brighton to host - but some people think anything to do with England is nasty and must be suppressed.[/p][/quote]Especially the extremist group the UAF are trying to suppress anything English ,its not by chance that one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events. clubrob6

5:11pm Mon 20 Jan 14

pperrin says...

"Ignore them"

That would seem ideal - let people join a public parade - with scouts and/or anyone else who wanted to join - unmolested and threatened.
"Ignore them" That would seem ideal - let people join a public parade - with scouts and/or anyone else who wanted to join - unmolested and threatened. pperrin

5:21pm Mon 20 Jan 14

tonygreenstein says...

Club Rob 6 tells us he's not NF or EDL. It would appear that he speaks the same language nonetheless and is sympathetic to them, to say the least.

The fact that thousands of Police are used, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds, to bus and and protect a bunch of fascists is a disgrace in itself.

But yes most of those arrested are anti-fascists because it is our duty our prevent the fascists organising amd marching. Fools like ClubRob clearly understand that when fascism gains a foot hold, the level of attacks against gays, black and asian people and dissidents in general increases exponentially.. Or maybe he hasn't heard of Golden Dawn in Greece and its attacks on and murder of Roma.

Fascists have no rights to march because they use it to build and intimidate. When my father lived in the East End, someone Jewish couldn't walk down RIdley and other roads wtihout taking their lives in their hands. Fascism led to Auschwitz of which it hasn't repented, denying it instead.

When I came to Brighton fascist groups organised attacks on gay meetings at Sussex and in town which resulted in a no. of people being injured. That is the 'freedom' of Club Rob and others. It is the freedom to murder in the middle of the night knowing that the Police infiltrate left and environmental groups, not fascist ones.

Brighton has been fascist free for many years and that is why the no. of racial attacks has been very low. There are some fools here, who in defence of the 'rights' of facists who declare their violence, are happy to see that change.

Well I'm not and get your facts right - like the EDL you may have an obsession with the UAF but it didn't organise the mobilisations in which most people in Brigthon came out to oppose fascism, apart from the normal whiners here.
Club Rob 6 tells us he's not NF or EDL. It would appear that he speaks the same language nonetheless and is sympathetic to them, to say the least. The fact that thousands of Police are used, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds, to bus and and protect a bunch of fascists is a disgrace in itself. But yes most of those arrested are anti-fascists because it is our duty our prevent the fascists organising amd marching. Fools like ClubRob clearly understand that when fascism gains a foot hold, the level of attacks against gays, black and asian people and dissidents in general increases exponentially.. Or maybe he hasn't heard of Golden Dawn in Greece and its attacks on and murder of Roma. Fascists have no rights to march because they use it to build and intimidate. When my father lived in the East End, someone Jewish couldn't walk down RIdley and other roads wtihout taking their lives in their hands. Fascism led to Auschwitz of which it hasn't repented, denying it instead. When I came to Brighton fascist groups organised attacks on gay meetings at Sussex and in town which resulted in a no. of people being injured. That is the 'freedom' of Club Rob and others. It is the freedom to murder in the middle of the night knowing that the Police infiltrate left and environmental groups, not fascist ones. Brighton has been fascist free for many years and that is why the no. of racial attacks has been very low. There are some fools here, who in defence of the 'rights' of facists who declare their violence, are happy to see that change. Well I'm not and get your facts right - like the EDL you may have an obsession with the UAF but it didn't organise the mobilisations in which most people in Brigthon came out to oppose fascism, apart from the normal whiners here. tonygreenstein

5:54pm Mon 20 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

clubrob6 wrote:
pperrin wrote:
I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.
Yes I agree the argus just like the rest of the controlled media hide the fact that its the UAF supporters that are out for trouble not the march for England.The argus also does not report that the UAF has also bee took over by extremists one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events.
yes rob, keep spouting your spurious claims that the UAF is an extremist group, if thats the case then so is the membership of the local Gala bingo hall. And let's not forget that these angelic ' patriots ' wouldn't get involved in any wrongdoing, would they marra ?

http://www.hopenotha
te.org.uk/blog/nick/
article/1078/killers
-were-edl-supporters
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree the argus just like the rest of the controlled media hide the fact that its the UAF supporters that are out for trouble not the march for England.The argus also does not report that the UAF has also bee took over by extremists one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a main speaker at UAF events.[/p][/quote]yes rob, keep spouting your spurious claims that the UAF is an extremist group, if thats the case then so is the membership of the local Gala bingo hall. And let's not forget that these angelic ' patriots ' wouldn't get involved in any wrongdoing, would they marra ? http://www.hopenotha te.org.uk/blog/nick/ article/1078/killers -were-edl-supporters All 9 of me

6:03pm Mon 20 Jan 14

mimseycal says...

The best way to show the MfE lot they are not welcome is to turn your back on them. I did it last year and was just on my own. Hopefully a few more will join me this year.
The best way to show the MfE lot they are not welcome is to turn your back on them. I did it last year and was just on my own. Hopefully a few more will join me this year. mimseycal

6:07pm Mon 20 Jan 14

pperrin says...

tonygreenstein wrote:
Club Rob 6 tells us he's not NF or EDL. It would appear that he speaks the same language nonetheless and is sympathetic to them, to say the least.

The fact that thousands of Police are used, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds, to bus and and protect a bunch of fascists is a disgrace in itself.

But yes most of those arrested are anti-fascists because it is our duty our prevent the fascists organising amd marching. Fools like ClubRob clearly understand that when fascism gains a foot hold, the level of attacks against gays, black and asian people and dissidents in general increases exponentially.. Or maybe he hasn't heard of Golden Dawn in Greece and its attacks on and murder of Roma.

Fascists have no rights to march because they use it to build and intimidate. When my father lived in the East End, someone Jewish couldn't walk down RIdley and other roads wtihout taking their lives in their hands. Fascism led to Auschwitz of which it hasn't repented, denying it instead.

When I came to Brighton fascist groups organised attacks on gay meetings at Sussex and in town which resulted in a no. of people being injured. That is the 'freedom' of Club Rob and others. It is the freedom to murder in the middle of the night knowing that the Police infiltrate left and environmental groups, not fascist ones.

Brighton has been fascist free for many years and that is why the no. of racial attacks has been very low. There are some fools here, who in defence of the 'rights' of facists who declare their violence, are happy to see that change.

Well I'm not and get your facts right - like the EDL you may have an obsession with the UAF but it didn't organise the mobilisations in which most people in Brigthon came out to oppose fascism, apart from the normal whiners here.
In 2010 most UAF supporters rejected calls to oppose 'March for England' because they recognised that they were just what they said a st geroges day march/parade.

Even since then there has been no violence from them.

It is they who are threatend with violence - if you want t compare it to historic fascsit situations fine - but it is UAF/HnH et al who are the fascists. Turning out purely to create violence and prevent a celebration of a patron saints day.
[quote][p][bold]tonygreenstein[/bold] wrote: Club Rob 6 tells us he's not NF or EDL. It would appear that he speaks the same language nonetheless and is sympathetic to them, to say the least. The fact that thousands of Police are used, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds, to bus and and protect a bunch of fascists is a disgrace in itself. But yes most of those arrested are anti-fascists because it is our duty our prevent the fascists organising amd marching. Fools like ClubRob clearly understand that when fascism gains a foot hold, the level of attacks against gays, black and asian people and dissidents in general increases exponentially.. Or maybe he hasn't heard of Golden Dawn in Greece and its attacks on and murder of Roma. Fascists have no rights to march because they use it to build and intimidate. When my father lived in the East End, someone Jewish couldn't walk down RIdley and other roads wtihout taking their lives in their hands. Fascism led to Auschwitz of which it hasn't repented, denying it instead. When I came to Brighton fascist groups organised attacks on gay meetings at Sussex and in town which resulted in a no. of people being injured. That is the 'freedom' of Club Rob and others. It is the freedom to murder in the middle of the night knowing that the Police infiltrate left and environmental groups, not fascist ones. Brighton has been fascist free for many years and that is why the no. of racial attacks has been very low. There are some fools here, who in defence of the 'rights' of facists who declare their violence, are happy to see that change. Well I'm not and get your facts right - like the EDL you may have an obsession with the UAF but it didn't organise the mobilisations in which most people in Brigthon came out to oppose fascism, apart from the normal whiners here.[/p][/quote]In 2010 most UAF supporters rejected calls to oppose 'March for England' because they recognised that they were just what they said a st geroges day march/parade. Even since then there has been no violence from them. It is they who are threatend with violence - if you want t compare it to historic fascsit situations fine - but it is UAF/HnH et al who are the fascists. Turning out purely to create violence and prevent a celebration of a patron saints day. pperrin

6:13pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Pheasant pluckers son says...

Oh joy. An exhibition of neandathol men strutting their stuff in our liberal city in the name of free speech.
Better get some plasters and germaline in so to treat their poor knuckles
Oh joy. An exhibition of neandathol men strutting their stuff in our liberal city in the name of free speech. Better get some plasters and germaline in so to treat their poor knuckles Pheasant pluckers son

6:29pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Fight_Back says...

pperrin wrote:
tonygreenstein wrote:
Club Rob 6 tells us he's not NF or EDL. It would appear that he speaks the same language nonetheless and is sympathetic to them, to say the least.

The fact that thousands of Police are used, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds, to bus and and protect a bunch of fascists is a disgrace in itself.

But yes most of those arrested are anti-fascists because it is our duty our prevent the fascists organising amd marching. Fools like ClubRob clearly understand that when fascism gains a foot hold, the level of attacks against gays, black and asian people and dissidents in general increases exponentially.. Or maybe he hasn't heard of Golden Dawn in Greece and its attacks on and murder of Roma.

Fascists have no rights to march because they use it to build and intimidate. When my father lived in the East End, someone Jewish couldn't walk down RIdley and other roads wtihout taking their lives in their hands. Fascism led to Auschwitz of which it hasn't repented, denying it instead.

When I came to Brighton fascist groups organised attacks on gay meetings at Sussex and in town which resulted in a no. of people being injured. That is the 'freedom' of Club Rob and others. It is the freedom to murder in the middle of the night knowing that the Police infiltrate left and environmental groups, not fascist ones.

Brighton has been fascist free for many years and that is why the no. of racial attacks has been very low. There are some fools here, who in defence of the 'rights' of facists who declare their violence, are happy to see that change.

Well I'm not and get your facts right - like the EDL you may have an obsession with the UAF but it didn't organise the mobilisations in which most people in Brigthon came out to oppose fascism, apart from the normal whiners here.
In 2010 most UAF supporters rejected calls to oppose 'March for England' because they recognised that they were just what they said a st geroges day march/parade.

Even since then there has been no violence from them.

It is they who are threatend with violence - if you want t compare it to historic fascsit situations fine - but it is UAF/HnH et al who are the fascists. Turning out purely to create violence and prevent a celebration of a patron saints day.
Regardless of their intent - they are still not welcome. Let's give the day back to the young of the city. That way we don't need to deal with the horrid likes of EDL, BNP, UAF and all the other associated sub-humans.
[quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonygreenstein[/bold] wrote: Club Rob 6 tells us he's not NF or EDL. It would appear that he speaks the same language nonetheless and is sympathetic to them, to say the least. The fact that thousands of Police are used, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds, to bus and and protect a bunch of fascists is a disgrace in itself. But yes most of those arrested are anti-fascists because it is our duty our prevent the fascists organising amd marching. Fools like ClubRob clearly understand that when fascism gains a foot hold, the level of attacks against gays, black and asian people and dissidents in general increases exponentially.. Or maybe he hasn't heard of Golden Dawn in Greece and its attacks on and murder of Roma. Fascists have no rights to march because they use it to build and intimidate. When my father lived in the East End, someone Jewish couldn't walk down RIdley and other roads wtihout taking their lives in their hands. Fascism led to Auschwitz of which it hasn't repented, denying it instead. When I came to Brighton fascist groups organised attacks on gay meetings at Sussex and in town which resulted in a no. of people being injured. That is the 'freedom' of Club Rob and others. It is the freedom to murder in the middle of the night knowing that the Police infiltrate left and environmental groups, not fascist ones. Brighton has been fascist free for many years and that is why the no. of racial attacks has been very low. There are some fools here, who in defence of the 'rights' of facists who declare their violence, are happy to see that change. Well I'm not and get your facts right - like the EDL you may have an obsession with the UAF but it didn't organise the mobilisations in which most people in Brigthon came out to oppose fascism, apart from the normal whiners here.[/p][/quote]In 2010 most UAF supporters rejected calls to oppose 'March for England' because they recognised that they were just what they said a st geroges day march/parade. Even since then there has been no violence from them. It is they who are threatend with violence - if you want t compare it to historic fascsit situations fine - but it is UAF/HnH et al who are the fascists. Turning out purely to create violence and prevent a celebration of a patron saints day.[/p][/quote]Regardless of their intent - they are still not welcome. Let's give the day back to the young of the city. That way we don't need to deal with the horrid likes of EDL, BNP, UAF and all the other associated sub-humans. Fight_Back

6:51pm Mon 20 Jan 14

puddingandpi says...

We should all bog off & have a big party while the fascists get on with it. We can all have fun, let them get it out of their system & everyone's happy.
We should all bog off & have a big party while the fascists get on with it. We can all have fun, let them get it out of their system & everyone's happy. puddingandpi

7:15pm Mon 20 Jan 14

This Username is Already in Use says...

I would put them in an impenetrable compound on Brighton racecourse and not release them until the delirium tremens kick in. Therefore, they can say they've marched in Brighton, because that's where the racecourse is, (although in reality, they'll probably just kick each others heads in...) and the more militant antifascist element will just just get bored after half an hour and go for a few jars instead.
I would put them in an impenetrable compound on Brighton racecourse and not release them until the delirium tremens kick in. Therefore, they can say they've marched in Brighton, because that's where the racecourse is, (although in reality, they'll probably just kick each others heads in...) and the more militant antifascist element will just just get bored after half an hour and go for a few jars instead. This Username is Already in Use

7:19pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Camel54 says...

All 9 of me wrote:
pperrin wrote:
I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.
Shall we call you the retarded right in that case ?
thats the trouble with labels, they don't always match the outfit, but don't let me stop you having a completely biased rant.
The very use of the term "lefty loons" indicates that nothing you write is worthy of further consideration. Please be more considerate if you wish to make a serious point.
I think the EDL are a bunch of thugs who make me ashamed to be English. They only come here for a fight, and unfortunately there are those who are only too happy to provide one.
If we allowed them a brief march down from the station to the seafront and lined the route with people howling with laughter and pointing at them, with rather a carnival atmosphere, I think it might put them off returning. As it is, they think they have the right do do as they will, and so do the opposition. Both make themselves look idiotic and the resulting violence and damage are unnecessary and damage the city. Although I am on the side of the protesters.
Maybe I should offer to organise the carnival?
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.[/p][/quote]Shall we call you the retarded right in that case ? thats the trouble with labels, they don't always match the outfit, but don't let me stop you having a completely biased rant.[/p][/quote]The very use of the term "lefty loons" indicates that nothing you write is worthy of further consideration. Please be more considerate if you wish to make a serious point. I think the EDL are a bunch of thugs who make me ashamed to be English. They only come here for a fight, and unfortunately there are those who are only too happy to provide one. If we allowed them a brief march down from the station to the seafront and lined the route with people howling with laughter and pointing at them, with rather a carnival atmosphere, I think it might put them off returning. As it is, they think they have the right do do as they will, and so do the opposition. Both make themselves look idiotic and the resulting violence and damage are unnecessary and damage the city. Although I am on the side of the protesters. Maybe I should offer to organise the carnival? Camel54

8:28pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Dragonfire says...

"A fact widely reported on the internet" might well become my phrase of the week as in "of course Zionazilluminati are controlling our minds with laser beams - it's a fact widely reported on the internet"

The MfE and their hangers on come here every year because they hate Brighton. Their first parade was actually in 2009 and somehow yes they did convince a handful of Gurkhas to come on the 2010 one - but funnily enough they never came back - I wonder why?

For the first couple of years nobody really opposed them - it did seem harmless enough. But once Brighton opened it's ears and actually heard the racist and homophobic chanting and saw the drunken "we're in your manor, what are you gonna do about it?" swagger, a decision taken that a stand had to be made

So here we go again.
"A fact widely reported on the internet" might well become my phrase of the week as in "of course Zionazilluminati are controlling our minds with laser beams - it's a fact widely reported on the internet" The MfE and their hangers on come here every year because they hate Brighton. Their first parade was actually in 2009 and somehow yes they did convince a handful of Gurkhas to come on the 2010 one - but funnily enough they never came back - I wonder why? For the first couple of years nobody really opposed them - it did seem harmless enough. But once Brighton opened it's ears and actually heard the racist and homophobic chanting and saw the drunken "we're in your manor, what are you gonna do about it?" swagger, a decision taken that a stand had to be made So here we go again. Dragonfire

8:38pm Mon 20 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

tonygreenstein wrote:
Club Rob 6 tells us he's not NF or EDL. It would appear that he speaks the same language nonetheless and is sympathetic to them, to say the least.

The fact that thousands of Police are used, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds, to bus and and protect a bunch of fascists is a disgrace in itself.

But yes most of those arrested are anti-fascists because it is our duty our prevent the fascists organising amd marching. Fools like ClubRob clearly understand that when fascism gains a foot hold, the level of attacks against gays, black and asian people and dissidents in general increases exponentially.. Or maybe he hasn't heard of Golden Dawn in Greece and its attacks on and murder of Roma.

Fascists have no rights to march because they use it to build and intimidate. When my father lived in the East End, someone Jewish couldn't walk down RIdley and other roads wtihout taking their lives in their hands. Fascism led to Auschwitz of which it hasn't repented, denying it instead.

When I came to Brighton fascist groups organised attacks on gay meetings at Sussex and in town which resulted in a no. of people being injured. That is the 'freedom' of Club Rob and others. It is the freedom to murder in the middle of the night knowing that the Police infiltrate left and environmental groups, not fascist ones.

Brighton has been fascist free for many years and that is why the no. of racial attacks has been very low. There are some fools here, who in defence of the 'rights' of facists who declare their violence, are happy to see that change.

Well I'm not and get your facts right - like the EDL you may have an obsession with the UAF but it didn't organise the mobilisations in which most people in Brigthon came out to oppose fascism, apart from the normal whiners here.
Wait a minuite if I had my way all these marches would be banned,why should it cost the taxpayer hundreds of thousands of pounds?Now the facts people on the march for England very few get arrested,the vast majority of violence and arrests and attacks towards the police are UAF supporters.The UAF had one of LEE RIGBYs murderers as a main speaker the UAF too has been took over by extremists..
[quote][p][bold]tonygreenstein[/bold] wrote: Club Rob 6 tells us he's not NF or EDL. It would appear that he speaks the same language nonetheless and is sympathetic to them, to say the least. The fact that thousands of Police are used, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds, to bus and and protect a bunch of fascists is a disgrace in itself. But yes most of those arrested are anti-fascists because it is our duty our prevent the fascists organising amd marching. Fools like ClubRob clearly understand that when fascism gains a foot hold, the level of attacks against gays, black and asian people and dissidents in general increases exponentially.. Or maybe he hasn't heard of Golden Dawn in Greece and its attacks on and murder of Roma. Fascists have no rights to march because they use it to build and intimidate. When my father lived in the East End, someone Jewish couldn't walk down RIdley and other roads wtihout taking their lives in their hands. Fascism led to Auschwitz of which it hasn't repented, denying it instead. When I came to Brighton fascist groups organised attacks on gay meetings at Sussex and in town which resulted in a no. of people being injured. That is the 'freedom' of Club Rob and others. It is the freedom to murder in the middle of the night knowing that the Police infiltrate left and environmental groups, not fascist ones. Brighton has been fascist free for many years and that is why the no. of racial attacks has been very low. There are some fools here, who in defence of the 'rights' of facists who declare their violence, are happy to see that change. Well I'm not and get your facts right - like the EDL you may have an obsession with the UAF but it didn't organise the mobilisations in which most people in Brigthon came out to oppose fascism, apart from the normal whiners here.[/p][/quote]Wait a minuite if I had my way all these marches would be banned,why should it cost the taxpayer hundreds of thousands of pounds?Now the facts people on the march for England very few get arrested,the vast majority of violence and arrests and attacks towards the police are UAF supporters.The UAF had one of LEE RIGBYs murderers as a main speaker the UAF too has been took over by extremists.. clubrob6

9:05pm Mon 20 Jan 14

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

tonygreenstein wrote:
Club Rob 6 tells us he's not NF or EDL. It would appear that he speaks the same language nonetheless and is sympathetic to them, to say the least.

The fact that thousands of Police are used, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds, to bus and and protect a bunch of fascists is a disgrace in itself.

But yes most of those arrested are anti-fascists because it is our duty our prevent the fascists organising amd marching. Fools like ClubRob clearly understand that when fascism gains a foot hold, the level of attacks against gays, black and asian people and dissidents in general increases exponentially.. Or maybe he hasn't heard of Golden Dawn in Greece and its attacks on and murder of Roma.

Fascists have no rights to march because they use it to build and intimidate. When my father lived in the East End, someone Jewish couldn't walk down RIdley and other roads wtihout taking their lives in their hands. Fascism led to Auschwitz of which it hasn't repented, denying it instead.

When I came to Brighton fascist groups organised attacks on gay meetings at Sussex and in town which resulted in a no. of people being injured. That is the 'freedom' of Club Rob and others. It is the freedom to murder in the middle of the night knowing that the Police infiltrate left and environmental groups, not fascist ones.

Brighton has been fascist free for many years and that is why the no. of racial attacks has been very low. There are some fools here, who in defence of the 'rights' of facists who declare their violence, are happy to see that change.

Well I'm not and get your facts right - like the EDL you may have an obsession with the UAF but it didn't organise the mobilisations in which most people in Brigthon came out to oppose fascism, apart from the normal whiners here.
HJ says you made a complete tw4t of yourself on the radio interview this morning and gratefully added that its people like you that make the Greens seem bright (sic). HJ also said that your performance was bang in line with your stupidity.

Pretty hard to disagree as you are stupid
[quote][p][bold]tonygreenstein[/bold] wrote: Club Rob 6 tells us he's not NF or EDL. It would appear that he speaks the same language nonetheless and is sympathetic to them, to say the least. The fact that thousands of Police are used, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds, to bus and and protect a bunch of fascists is a disgrace in itself. But yes most of those arrested are anti-fascists because it is our duty our prevent the fascists organising amd marching. Fools like ClubRob clearly understand that when fascism gains a foot hold, the level of attacks against gays, black and asian people and dissidents in general increases exponentially.. Or maybe he hasn't heard of Golden Dawn in Greece and its attacks on and murder of Roma. Fascists have no rights to march because they use it to build and intimidate. When my father lived in the East End, someone Jewish couldn't walk down RIdley and other roads wtihout taking their lives in their hands. Fascism led to Auschwitz of which it hasn't repented, denying it instead. When I came to Brighton fascist groups organised attacks on gay meetings at Sussex and in town which resulted in a no. of people being injured. That is the 'freedom' of Club Rob and others. It is the freedom to murder in the middle of the night knowing that the Police infiltrate left and environmental groups, not fascist ones. Brighton has been fascist free for many years and that is why the no. of racial attacks has been very low. There are some fools here, who in defence of the 'rights' of facists who declare their violence, are happy to see that change. Well I'm not and get your facts right - like the EDL you may have an obsession with the UAF but it didn't organise the mobilisations in which most people in Brigthon came out to oppose fascism, apart from the normal whiners here.[/p][/quote]HJ says you made a complete tw4t of yourself on the radio interview this morning and gratefully added that its people like you that make the Greens seem bright (sic). HJ also said that your performance was bang in line with your stupidity. Pretty hard to disagree as you are stupid I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

10:15pm Mon 20 Jan 14

FatherTed11 says...

Bloody greens!!
Bloody greens!! FatherTed11

10:23pm Mon 20 Jan 14

pperrin says...

Camel54 wrote:
All 9 of me wrote:
pperrin wrote:
I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.
Shall we call you the retarded right in that case ?
thats the trouble with labels, they don't always match the outfit, but don't let me stop you having a completely biased rant.
The very use of the term "lefty loons" indicates that nothing you write is worthy of further consideration. Please be more considerate if you wish to make a serious point.
I think the EDL are a bunch of thugs who make me ashamed to be English. They only come here for a fight, and unfortunately there are those who are only too happy to provide one.
If we allowed them a brief march down from the station to the seafront and lined the route with people howling with laughter and pointing at them, with rather a carnival atmosphere, I think it might put them off returning. As it is, they think they have the right do do as they will, and so do the opposition. Both make themselves look idiotic and the resulting violence and damage are unnecessary and damage the city. Although I am on the side of the protesters.
Maybe I should offer to organise the carnival?
'not worth furhter consideration' - but you read and commented in it anyway?

I decided to save any grief and not read past that line.
[quote][p][bold]Camel54[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: I see my first comment saying I hope there isn't violence has a minus 14 vote - presumably from the lefty loons who are just out for a fight and to whom The Argus panders.[/p][/quote]Shall we call you the retarded right in that case ? thats the trouble with labels, they don't always match the outfit, but don't let me stop you having a completely biased rant.[/p][/quote]The very use of the term "lefty loons" indicates that nothing you write is worthy of further consideration. Please be more considerate if you wish to make a serious point. I think the EDL are a bunch of thugs who make me ashamed to be English. They only come here for a fight, and unfortunately there are those who are only too happy to provide one. If we allowed them a brief march down from the station to the seafront and lined the route with people howling with laughter and pointing at them, with rather a carnival atmosphere, I think it might put them off returning. As it is, they think they have the right do do as they will, and so do the opposition. Both make themselves look idiotic and the resulting violence and damage are unnecessary and damage the city. Although I am on the side of the protesters. Maybe I should offer to organise the carnival?[/p][/quote]'not worth furhter consideration' - but you read and commented in it anyway? I decided to save any grief and not read past that line. pperrin

10:25pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Dragonfire says...

@clubrob6

Have you got any evidence that either Michael Adebolajo or Michael Adebowale either spoke at or even attended a UAF event?
@clubrob6 Have you got any evidence that either Michael Adebolajo or Michael Adebowale either spoke at or even attended a UAF event? Dragonfire

1:09am Tue 21 Jan 14

mimseycal says...

Dragonfire wrote:
@clubrob6

Have you got any evidence that either Michael Adebolajo or Michael Adebowale either spoke at or even attended a UAF event?
Unlikely ... however it always serves to fling mud around when no other point can be made.

The best way to deal with these extremists, both the MfE mob and the militant anti-fascists, is to dismiss their presence as they approach, turn your back on them. No shouting, no name calling, no derisive hand gestures. Just dismiss them. A side benefit would be that you can then witness any provocateurs that hide in the crowd.
[quote][p][bold]Dragonfire[/bold] wrote: @clubrob6 Have you got any evidence that either Michael Adebolajo or Michael Adebowale either spoke at or even attended a UAF event?[/p][/quote]Unlikely ... however it always serves to fling mud around when no other point can be made. The best way to deal with these extremists, both the MfE mob and the militant anti-fascists, is to dismiss their presence as they approach, turn your back on them. No shouting, no name calling, no derisive hand gestures. Just dismiss them. A side benefit would be that you can then witness any provocateurs that hide in the crowd. mimseycal

6:19am Tue 21 Jan 14

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

tonygreenstein wrote:
Club Rob 6 tells us he's not NF or EDL. It would appear that he speaks the same language nonetheless and is sympathetic to them, to say the least.

The fact that thousands of Police are used, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds, to bus and and protect a bunch of fascists is a disgrace in itself.

But yes most of those arrested are anti-fascists because it is our duty our prevent the fascists organising amd marching. Fools like ClubRob clearly understand that when fascism gains a foot hold, the level of attacks against gays, black and asian people and dissidents in general increases exponentially.. Or maybe he hasn't heard of Golden Dawn in Greece and its attacks on and murder of Roma.

Fascists have no rights to march because they use it to build and intimidate. When my father lived in the East End, someone Jewish couldn't walk down RIdley and other roads wtihout taking their lives in their hands. Fascism led to Auschwitz of which it hasn't repented, denying it instead.

When I came to Brighton fascist groups organised attacks on gay meetings at Sussex and in town which resulted in a no. of people being injured. That is the 'freedom' of Club Rob and others. It is the freedom to murder in the middle of the night knowing that the Police infiltrate left and environmental groups, not fascist ones.

Brighton has been fascist free for many years and that is why the no. of racial attacks has been very low. There are some fools here, who in defence of the 'rights' of facists who declare their violence, are happy to see that change.

Well I'm not and get your facts right - like the EDL you may have an obsession with the UAF but it didn't organise the mobilisations in which most people in Brigthon came out to oppose fascism, apart from the normal whiners here.
HJ says its people like you that ruin the city
[quote][p][bold]tonygreenstein[/bold] wrote: Club Rob 6 tells us he's not NF or EDL. It would appear that he speaks the same language nonetheless and is sympathetic to them, to say the least. The fact that thousands of Police are used, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds, to bus and and protect a bunch of fascists is a disgrace in itself. But yes most of those arrested are anti-fascists because it is our duty our prevent the fascists organising amd marching. Fools like ClubRob clearly understand that when fascism gains a foot hold, the level of attacks against gays, black and asian people and dissidents in general increases exponentially.. Or maybe he hasn't heard of Golden Dawn in Greece and its attacks on and murder of Roma. Fascists have no rights to march because they use it to build and intimidate. When my father lived in the East End, someone Jewish couldn't walk down RIdley and other roads wtihout taking their lives in their hands. Fascism led to Auschwitz of which it hasn't repented, denying it instead. When I came to Brighton fascist groups organised attacks on gay meetings at Sussex and in town which resulted in a no. of people being injured. That is the 'freedom' of Club Rob and others. It is the freedom to murder in the middle of the night knowing that the Police infiltrate left and environmental groups, not fascist ones. Brighton has been fascist free for many years and that is why the no. of racial attacks has been very low. There are some fools here, who in defence of the 'rights' of facists who declare their violence, are happy to see that change. Well I'm not and get your facts right - like the EDL you may have an obsession with the UAF but it didn't organise the mobilisations in which most people in Brigthon came out to oppose fascism, apart from the normal whiners here.[/p][/quote]HJ says its people like you that ruin the city I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

7:41am Tue 21 Jan 14

Boloney-marshal says...

I'm sure B&H council will find a way of levying some sort of ridiculous fee on these people and the police ordered to make sure they enter the town driving at a respectable law abiding speed.
I'm sure B&H council will find a way of levying some sort of ridiculous fee on these people and the police ordered to make sure they enter the town driving at a respectable law abiding speed. Boloney-marshal

9:49am Tue 21 Jan 14

voiceofthescoombe says...

Tbf its kind of hard to commit an arrestable offence when you behind a wall of riot police to keep you safe from the locals.
Strangly the evil uaf thugs never seem to cause me any trouble maybe because I dont think its a fun weekend to get a Union jack and parade up and down attempting to intimidate people for not being english enough?
Tbf its kind of hard to commit an arrestable offence when you behind a wall of riot police to keep you safe from the locals. Strangly the evil uaf thugs never seem to cause me any trouble maybe because I dont think its a fun weekend to get a Union jack and parade up and down attempting to intimidate people for not being english enough? voiceofthescoombe

12:41pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ashles says...

Dragonfire wrote:
@clubrob6 Have you got any evidence that either Michael Adebolajo or Michael Adebowale either spoke at or even attended a UAF event?
No you can't write their names like that, you have to write "LEE RIGBY's murderers".

Because apparently clubrob thinks it makes a point sound more logicial, well-argued and compelling if you write it like a tabloid headline...
[quote][p][bold]Dragonfire[/bold] wrote: @clubrob6 Have you got any evidence that either Michael Adebolajo or Michael Adebowale either spoke at or even attended a UAF event?[/p][/quote]No you can't write their names like that, you have to write "LEE RIGBY's murderers". Because apparently clubrob thinks it makes a point sound more logicial, well-argued and compelling if you write it like a tabloid headline... Ashles

1:57pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ricayboy says...

I am from Brighton and have no problem with MFE. I do however have a problem with the Anglophobic lefties who think that it's fine for any and every ethnic group to celebrate and assert the identity except for the English, who are constantly treated with scorn and derision.
I am from Brighton and have no problem with MFE. I do however have a problem with the Anglophobic lefties who think that it's fine for any and every ethnic group to celebrate and assert the identity except for the English, who are constantly treated with scorn and derision. Ricayboy

1:58pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ricayboy says...

LoveUK wrote:
Hate is not freedom of speech, this march should not be allowed
Some of the lefties are pretty hateful too. I don't think that it's necessarily hateful to celebrate one's own national identity and culture.
[quote][p][bold]LoveUK[/bold] wrote: Hate is not freedom of speech, this march should not be allowed[/p][/quote]Some of the lefties are pretty hateful too. I don't think that it's necessarily hateful to celebrate one's own national identity and culture. Ricayboy

2:02pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ricayboy says...

Pheasant pluckers son wrote:
Oh joy. An exhibition of neandathol men strutting their stuff in our liberal city in the name of free speech.
Better get some plasters and germaline in so to treat their poor knuckles
How very droll.
[quote][p][bold]Pheasant pluckers son[/bold] wrote: Oh joy. An exhibition of neandathol men strutting their stuff in our liberal city in the name of free speech. Better get some plasters and germaline in so to treat their poor knuckles[/p][/quote]How very droll. Ricayboy

2:19pm Tue 21 Jan 14

pperrin says...

The point of 'free speech' is that you don't get to choose what it is or isn't. Free speech means freedom to say anything.

I think the least the loony lefties should do is man up and admit that they oppose free speech! Once they do that they may either be able to present an honest case - or at least face their dishonesty.
The point of 'free speech' is that you don't get to choose what it is or isn't. Free speech means freedom to say anything. I think the least the loony lefties should do is man up and admit that they oppose free speech! Once they do that they may either be able to present an honest case - or at least face their dishonesty. pperrin

4:22pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Žonko! says...

March for England isn't a celebration of English culture or heritage,it's a celebration of hate,bigotry and jingoism organised and attended by right wing racist,fascist and homophobic groups.
This march was allowed to happen unopposed for a couple of years until these small minded fools started running around yelling homophobic and racist abuse at citizens of this city,they only have themselves to blame for drawing opposition to themselves.
Brighton council need to step in and ban march for England and organise it's own St George's day celebrations in the style of the Liverpool one last year which was a great success and a fun inclusive day where everyone was welcome.
March for England isn't a celebration of English culture or heritage,it's a celebration of hate,bigotry and jingoism organised and attended by right wing racist,fascist and homophobic groups. This march was allowed to happen unopposed for a couple of years until these small minded fools started running around yelling homophobic and racist abuse at citizens of this city,they only have themselves to blame for drawing opposition to themselves. Brighton council need to step in and ban march for England and organise it's own St George's day celebrations in the style of the Liverpool one last year which was a great success and a fun inclusive day where everyone was welcome. Žonko!

6:27pm Tue 21 Jan 14

VoxUnpopuli says...

Anyone who was undecided about this will soon be able to make up their minds after reading the crude ramblings of those in favour of MFE being able to march. A collection of unabashed Fascists and "I'm not racist but..." right wingers. Still I do believe in free speech, even to those who would deny it to others, if only so we can remember that there are, sadly, still people like this around in 2014. However, rather than let them parade in the city centre abusing passers by, why not have them march around somewhere quiet like an industrial estate area at the weekend?
Anyone who was undecided about this will soon be able to make up their minds after reading the crude ramblings of those in favour of MFE being able to march. A collection of unabashed Fascists and "I'm not racist but..." right wingers. Still I do believe in free speech, even to those who would deny it to others, if only so we can remember that there are, sadly, still people like this around in 2014. However, rather than let them parade in the city centre abusing passers by, why not have them march around somewhere quiet like an industrial estate area at the weekend? VoxUnpopuli

6:59pm Tue 21 Jan 14

mimseycal says...

pperrin wrote:
The point of 'free speech' is that you don't get to choose what it is or isn't. Free speech means freedom to say anything.

I think the least the loony lefties should do is man up and admit that they oppose free speech! Once they do that they may either be able to present an honest case - or at least face their dishonesty.
Wrong. Free Speech means that you cannot be coerced to say something you disagree with. However it also means that you are personally accountable for what you say.
[quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: The point of 'free speech' is that you don't get to choose what it is or isn't. Free speech means freedom to say anything. I think the least the loony lefties should do is man up and admit that they oppose free speech! Once they do that they may either be able to present an honest case - or at least face their dishonesty.[/p][/quote]Wrong. Free Speech means that you cannot be coerced to say something you disagree with. However it also means that you are personally accountable for what you say. mimseycal

7:33pm Tue 21 Jan 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

I hope that the knuckle dragging dimwits leave their kids at home this year. Anyone who brings a child to this kind of ruckus should be investigated by social services.
I hope that the knuckle dragging dimwits leave their kids at home this year. Anyone who brings a child to this kind of ruckus should be investigated by social services. thevoiceoftruth

12:03am Wed 22 Jan 14

pperrin says...

mimseycal wrote:
pperrin wrote:
The point of 'free speech' is that you don't get to choose what it is or isn't. Free speech means freedom to say anything.

I think the least the loony lefties should do is man up and admit that they oppose free speech! Once they do that they may either be able to present an honest case - or at least face their dishonesty.
Wrong. Free Speech means that you cannot be coerced to say something you disagree with. However it also means that you are personally accountable for what you say.
Only in your little red (or green) book.

To the rest of the world it means hold and expressing any view you like - try googling it.
[quote][p][bold]mimseycal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: The point of 'free speech' is that you don't get to choose what it is or isn't. Free speech means freedom to say anything. I think the least the loony lefties should do is man up and admit that they oppose free speech! Once they do that they may either be able to present an honest case - or at least face their dishonesty.[/p][/quote]Wrong. Free Speech means that you cannot be coerced to say something you disagree with. However it also means that you are personally accountable for what you say.[/p][/quote]Only in your little red (or green) book. To the rest of the world it means hold and expressing any view you like - try googling it. pperrin

2:37am Wed 22 Jan 14

mimseycal says...

pperrin wrote:
mimseycal wrote:
pperrin wrote:
The point of 'free speech' is that you don't get to choose what it is or isn't. Free speech means freedom to say anything.

I think the least the loony lefties should do is man up and admit that they oppose free speech! Once they do that they may either be able to present an honest case - or at least face their dishonesty.
Wrong. Free Speech means that you cannot be coerced to say something you disagree with. However it also means that you are personally accountable for what you say.
Only in your little red (or green) book.

To the rest of the world it means hold and expressing any view you like - try googling it.
The sacred cow of misconception. No dear, it is not the rest of the world ... only those who risk losing the very foundation of their self serving egotism.

Puts me in mind of the opposition to the Heliocentric theory propounded by Copernicus(1543ad) . Despite his proving, with a relatively simple and elegant mathematical argument, that the earth revolved around the sun, very few abandoned the belief in the Ptolemic geocentric system (2nd century) which held that the Earth was the stationary center of the universe. In fact that sacred cow, wrong as it was, was not fully abandoned till after Newton's law of universal gravitation (1686/87) if memory serves me right) made it impossible to maintain it.

To truly understand a concept you need to read up on its origin and evolution. Don't get misled by the commonly accepted meaning of 'free'. Free Speech is actually a freedom from rather then a freedom to ...
[quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mimseycal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: The point of 'free speech' is that you don't get to choose what it is or isn't. Free speech means freedom to say anything. I think the least the loony lefties should do is man up and admit that they oppose free speech! Once they do that they may either be able to present an honest case - or at least face their dishonesty.[/p][/quote]Wrong. Free Speech means that you cannot be coerced to say something you disagree with. However it also means that you are personally accountable for what you say.[/p][/quote]Only in your little red (or green) book. To the rest of the world it means hold and expressing any view you like - try googling it.[/p][/quote]The sacred cow of misconception. No dear, it is not the rest of the world ... only those who risk losing the very foundation of their self serving egotism. Puts me in mind of the opposition to the Heliocentric theory propounded by Copernicus(1543ad) . Despite his proving, with a relatively simple and elegant mathematical argument, that the earth revolved around the sun, very few abandoned the belief in the Ptolemic geocentric system (2nd century) which held that the Earth was the stationary center of the universe. In fact that sacred cow, wrong as it was, was not fully abandoned till after Newton's law of universal gravitation (1686/87) if memory serves me right) made it impossible to maintain it. To truly understand a concept you need to read up on its origin and evolution. Don't get misled by the commonly accepted meaning of 'free'. Free Speech is actually a freedom from rather then a freedom to ... mimseycal

9:33pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Sue De Nimes says...

I have no time for the EDL or any similar organisation.

I do believe that they have the same right to protest as the unions or any of the many other groups that regularly protest in Brighton.

In my personal view, this march would be banned but along with all the other "rent a mob" protests we see. I am sick of the anti-Semitic protests on Western road every Saturday for example.
I have no time for the EDL or any similar organisation. I do believe that they have the same right to protest as the unions or any of the many other groups that regularly protest in Brighton. In my personal view, this march would be banned but along with all the other "rent a mob" protests we see. I am sick of the anti-Semitic protests on Western road every Saturday for example. Sue De Nimes

9:34pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Sue De Nimes says...

clarkebrighton wrote:
Why don't the BONEHEADS go Somewhere else.
They are NOT welcome in Brighton and Hove City.
Says who?
[quote][p][bold]clarkebrighton[/bold] wrote: Why don't the BONEHEADS go Somewhere else. They are NOT welcome in Brighton and Hove City.[/p][/quote]Says who? Sue De Nimes

11:01pm Wed 22 Jan 14

pperrin says...

mimseycal wrote:
pperrin wrote:
mimseycal wrote:
pperrin wrote:
The point of 'free speech' is that you don't get to choose what it is or isn't. Free speech means freedom to say anything.

I think the least the loony lefties should do is man up and admit that they oppose free speech! Once they do that they may either be able to present an honest case - or at least face their dishonesty.
Wrong. Free Speech means that you cannot be coerced to say something you disagree with. However it also means that you are personally accountable for what you say.
Only in your little red (or green) book.

To the rest of the world it means hold and expressing any view you like - try googling it.
The sacred cow of misconception. No dear, it is not the rest of the world ... only those who risk losing the very foundation of their self serving egotism.

Puts me in mind of the opposition to the Heliocentric theory propounded by Copernicus(1543ad) . Despite his proving, with a relatively simple and elegant mathematical argument, that the earth revolved around the sun, very few abandoned the belief in the Ptolemic geocentric system (2nd century) which held that the Earth was the stationary center of the universe. In fact that sacred cow, wrong as it was, was not fully abandoned till after Newton's law of universal gravitation (1686/87) if memory serves me right) made it impossible to maintain it.

To truly understand a concept you need to read up on its origin and evolution. Don't get misled by the commonly accepted meaning of 'free'. Free Speech is actually a freedom from rather then a freedom to ...
You can write as much as you like - it just means you are wrong and wordy.

Go google it - theres a luv.
[quote][p][bold]mimseycal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mimseycal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pperrin[/bold] wrote: The point of 'free speech' is that you don't get to choose what it is or isn't. Free speech means freedom to say anything. I think the least the loony lefties should do is man up and admit that they oppose free speech! Once they do that they may either be able to present an honest case - or at least face their dishonesty.[/p][/quote]Wrong. Free Speech means that you cannot be coerced to say something you disagree with. However it also means that you are personally accountable for what you say.[/p][/quote]Only in your little red (or green) book. To the rest of the world it means hold and expressing any view you like - try googling it.[/p][/quote]The sacred cow of misconception. No dear, it is not the rest of the world ... only those who risk losing the very foundation of their self serving egotism. Puts me in mind of the opposition to the Heliocentric theory propounded by Copernicus(1543ad) . Despite his proving, with a relatively simple and elegant mathematical argument, that the earth revolved around the sun, very few abandoned the belief in the Ptolemic geocentric system (2nd century) which held that the Earth was the stationary center of the universe. In fact that sacred cow, wrong as it was, was not fully abandoned till after Newton's law of universal gravitation (1686/87) if memory serves me right) made it impossible to maintain it. To truly understand a concept you need to read up on its origin and evolution. Don't get misled by the commonly accepted meaning of 'free'. Free Speech is actually a freedom from rather then a freedom to ...[/p][/quote]You can write as much as you like - it just means you are wrong and wordy. Go google it - theres a luv. pperrin

11:31pm Wed 22 Jan 14

mimseycal says...

Google, the lazy man's alternative to actually reading ... No thank you dear, I'll stick with books.
Google, the lazy man's alternative to actually reading ... No thank you dear, I'll stick with books. mimseycal

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