Brighton Speed Trials set to be given go ahead

The Argus: Brighton Speed Trials set to be given go ahead Brighton Speed Trials set to be given go ahead

The future of the country’s oldest motorsports event is set to be secured thanks to the support of thousands of people.

Brighton Speed Trials was first held in Madeira Drive, Brighton in 1905 but was cancelled last year after the death of a competitor in 2012.

With safety concerns putting its future at risk, more than 12,000 people signed a petition calling on Brighton and Hove City Council to reinstate the event.

The final decision will be made at a key town hall meeting on Wednesday (Jan 23), when opposition councillors are set to join forces to give Brighton and Hove Motor Club permission to use the seafront strip.

This is despite town hall officials admitting there are still safety concerns about holding an event where vehicles travel at speeds of more than 120mph on a public highway.

Green councillor Geoffrey Bowden, chairman of the council’s economic development committee, said: “This is not anti-car or anti-internal combustion engine, it’s purely safety concerns raised by the city’s Safety Advisory Group.”

Coun Bowden, who used to work in PR for a motorcycling organisation, added there was an issue with the council being liable for damages if there are any future incidents and the surface is found to be faulty.

But both Conservative and Labour councillors on the committee said they would listen to the pleas of the 12,262 who signed an online petition supporting the event.

Among the backers are international best-selling author Peter James and Formula One legend Sir Stirling Moss.

Conservative councillor Vanessa Brown said: “The huge number of signatures just goes to show what a big mistake the Greens have made in trying to scrap this much-loved historic event.

“The safety argument they are trying to use to discredit the event is just a smokescreen.”

Labour councillor Brian Fitch said: “It’s important that decisions are made for the good of the city.

“I think it’s an amazing petition.

“They certainly deserve the credit for the effort they have made but, more importantly, it has shown us as politicians the interest there is in this particular event and it makes sense that it continues.”

Officials added even if an event receives initial landlord’s consent, it does not mean it will necessarily take place as it also needs licenses from relevant safety bodies.

One of the steps it could recommend is resurfacing the road, which would cost the local taxpayer £100,000.

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5:18pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

So has it been given the green light? confused!
So has it been given the green light? confused! Brighton1000

5:20pm Wed 22 Jan 14

bikerjimbo says...

So it will cost 100k to resurface the road, less than half the cost of a referendum, plus money well spent due to the crowds that attend the event. Probably won't happen because it seems value for money to me.
So it will cost 100k to resurface the road, less than half the cost of a referendum, plus money well spent due to the crowds that attend the event. Probably won't happen because it seems value for money to me. bikerjimbo

6:42pm Wed 22 Jan 14

LeonBIank666 says...

Do not count your chickens before they hatch because when Kitkat finally realizes he is out of a job the closure of this event will be one last act of utter hatred the man will be capable of.

Think about it, It is about cars and having fun. Two things the vile Greens oppose.
Do not count your chickens before they hatch because when Kitkat finally realizes he is out of a job the closure of this event will be one last act of utter hatred the man will be capable of. Think about it, It is about cars and having fun. Two things the vile Greens oppose. LeonBIank666

7:15pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Numptyone says...

Quote "vehicles travel at speeds of more than 120mph on a public highway."

Isn't this technically a private road which the council leases hence it can have the speed limit removed for the day?
Quote "vehicles travel at speeds of more than 120mph on a public highway." Isn't this technically a private road which the council leases hence it can have the speed limit removed for the day? Numptyone

7:39pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Eugenius says...

bikerjimbo wrote:
So it will cost 100k to resurface the road, less than half the cost of a referendum, plus money well spent due to the crowds that attend the event. Probably won't happen because it seems value for money to me.
But businesses on Madeira Drive have to close for the day and the beach is closed too. So on the whole I don't think there is much economic benefit. However if the event can go ahead without the council being held liable for death and injury then probably the council shouldn't stand in the way.

The committee report is actually more balanced than the Argus makes out and one compromise option given is:

"That the committee grants initial landlord’s consent subject to the advice of the Safety Advisory Group and further subject to a condition requiring the organisers to fund all associated costs including essential safety requirements needed for the event to take place on the basis that the organisers will retain income from the event."
[quote][p][bold]bikerjimbo[/bold] wrote: So it will cost 100k to resurface the road, less than half the cost of a referendum, plus money well spent due to the crowds that attend the event. Probably won't happen because it seems value for money to me.[/p][/quote]But businesses on Madeira Drive have to close for the day and the beach is closed too. So on the whole I don't think there is much economic benefit. However if the event can go ahead without the council being held liable for death and injury then probably the council shouldn't stand in the way. The committee report is actually more balanced than the Argus makes out and one compromise option given is: "That the committee grants initial landlord’s consent subject to the advice of the Safety Advisory Group and further subject to a condition requiring the organisers to fund all associated costs including essential safety requirements needed for the event to take place on the basis that the organisers will retain income from the event." Eugenius

7:46pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Eugenius says...

Numptyone wrote:
Quote "vehicles travel at speeds of more than 120mph on a public highway."

Isn't this technically a private road which the council leases hence it can have the speed limit removed for the day?
No, it's a public highway, the council doesn't lease it off someone! But it's always closed off for the event and the speed limit suspended, that's not the issue here.
[quote][p][bold]Numptyone[/bold] wrote: Quote "vehicles travel at speeds of more than 120mph on a public highway." Isn't this technically a private road which the council leases hence it can have the speed limit removed for the day?[/p][/quote]No, it's a public highway, the council doesn't lease it off someone! But it's always closed off for the event and the speed limit suspended, that's not the issue here. Eugenius

8:21pm Wed 22 Jan 14

jimpy762 says...

I wouldn't worry about it Eugenius. The speed trials and everything else in our city will be out of your grasping hands pretty shortly. No confidence mate. Go away.
I wouldn't worry about it Eugenius. The speed trials and everything else in our city will be out of your grasping hands pretty shortly. No confidence mate. Go away. jimpy762

11:09pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Martha Gunn says...

Will be curious if Green Party give the go-ahead to the Petrol Heads!

Not very Green.

Mind you they are in hard times at the moment.
Will be curious if Green Party give the go-ahead to the Petrol Heads! Not very Green. Mind you they are in hard times at the moment. Martha Gunn

9:50am Thu 23 Jan 14

gheese77 says...

Vanessa Bowden should be ashamed of herself, making cheap political points and accusing the greens of using safety as a smokescreen, does she not remember someone died last time.

Glad its going ahead though, its always fun
Vanessa Bowden should be ashamed of herself, making cheap political points and accusing the greens of using safety as a smokescreen, does she not remember someone died last time. Glad its going ahead though, its always fun gheese77

11:35am Thu 23 Jan 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

Eugenius wrote:
bikerjimbo wrote:
So it will cost 100k to resurface the road, less than half the cost of a referendum, plus money well spent due to the crowds that attend the event. Probably won't happen because it seems value for money to me.
But businesses on Madeira Drive have to close for the day and the beach is closed too. So on the whole I don't think there is much economic benefit. However if the event can go ahead without the council being held liable for death and injury then probably the council shouldn't stand in the way.

The committee report is actually more balanced than the Argus makes out and one compromise option given is:

"That the committee grants initial landlord’s consent subject to the advice of the Safety Advisory Group and further subject to a condition requiring the organisers to fund all associated costs including essential safety requirements needed for the event to take place on the basis that the organisers will retain income from the event."
There are very few businesses on Madeira Drive. Do you even live here?
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bikerjimbo[/bold] wrote: So it will cost 100k to resurface the road, less than half the cost of a referendum, plus money well spent due to the crowds that attend the event. Probably won't happen because it seems value for money to me.[/p][/quote]But businesses on Madeira Drive have to close for the day and the beach is closed too. So on the whole I don't think there is much economic benefit. However if the event can go ahead without the council being held liable for death and injury then probably the council shouldn't stand in the way. The committee report is actually more balanced than the Argus makes out and one compromise option given is: "That the committee grants initial landlord’s consent subject to the advice of the Safety Advisory Group and further subject to a condition requiring the organisers to fund all associated costs including essential safety requirements needed for the event to take place on the basis that the organisers will retain income from the event."[/p][/quote]There are very few businesses on Madeira Drive. Do you even live here? thevoiceoftruth

12:28pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Joshiman says...

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ITS A CAR EVENT said the Greeny man in charge.
Lets tax them for parking on Madeira Drive said the Greeny man.
Lets also tax them for pollution said the Greeny man.
Lets put a couple of sets of pedestrian traffic lights every 20 yards during the event said the Greeny man.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ITS A CAR EVENT said the Greeny man in charge. Lets tax them for parking on Madeira Drive said the Greeny man. Lets also tax them for pollution said the Greeny man. Lets put a couple of sets of pedestrian traffic lights every 20 yards during the event said the Greeny man. Joshiman

12:38pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Tallywhacker says...

Eugenius wrote:
bikerjimbo wrote:
So it will cost 100k to resurface the road, less than half the cost of a referendum, plus money well spent due to the crowds that attend the event. Probably won't happen because it seems value for money to me.
But businesses on Madeira Drive have to close for the day and the beach is closed too. So on the whole I don't think there is much economic benefit. However if the event can go ahead without the council being held liable for death and injury then probably the council shouldn't stand in the way.

The committee report is actually more balanced than the Argus makes out and one compromise option given is:

"That the committee grants initial landlord’s consent subject to the advice of the Safety Advisory Group and further subject to a condition requiring the organisers to fund all associated costs including essential safety requirements needed for the event to take place on the basis that the organisers will retain income from the event."
More people have died using the beach since 1905 than during the speed trials. Are you suggesting the beach should be closed for health and safety? And gosh there are what maybe 20 businesses on the drive. How about the health and safety issues of non bin collections....
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bikerjimbo[/bold] wrote: So it will cost 100k to resurface the road, less than half the cost of a referendum, plus money well spent due to the crowds that attend the event. Probably won't happen because it seems value for money to me.[/p][/quote]But businesses on Madeira Drive have to close for the day and the beach is closed too. So on the whole I don't think there is much economic benefit. However if the event can go ahead without the council being held liable for death and injury then probably the council shouldn't stand in the way. The committee report is actually more balanced than the Argus makes out and one compromise option given is: "That the committee grants initial landlord’s consent subject to the advice of the Safety Advisory Group and further subject to a condition requiring the organisers to fund all associated costs including essential safety requirements needed for the event to take place on the basis that the organisers will retain income from the event."[/p][/quote]More people have died using the beach since 1905 than during the speed trials. Are you suggesting the beach should be closed for health and safety? And gosh there are what maybe 20 businesses on the drive. How about the health and safety issues of non bin collections.... Tallywhacker

1:00pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

Eugenius wrote:
bikerjimbo wrote:
So it will cost 100k to resurface the road, less than half the cost of a referendum, plus money well spent due to the crowds that attend the event. Probably won't happen because it seems value for money to me.
But businesses on Madeira Drive have to close for the day and the beach is closed too. So on the whole I don't think there is much economic benefit. However if the event can go ahead without the council being held liable for death and injury then probably the council shouldn't stand in the way.

The committee report is actually more balanced than the Argus makes out and one compromise option given is:

"That the committee grants initial landlord’s consent subject to the advice of the Safety Advisory Group and further subject to a condition requiring the organisers to fund all associated costs including essential safety requirements needed for the event to take place on the basis that the organisers will retain income from the event."
Businesses have to close? Can specify which ones, This is utter nonsense, All cafes and bars on the road are absolutely to capacity, The revenue generated from the additional tourists etc is huge! I grant you that the mini golf closes (I beleieve), Im sure this in no way constitutes no economic benefit.

The beach is closed, Oh wow, There are about 7 miles or so of beach, one small stretch is closed for one day, with no impact what so ever.

And you wonder why the residents of this City cant wait to see the back of you!
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bikerjimbo[/bold] wrote: So it will cost 100k to resurface the road, less than half the cost of a referendum, plus money well spent due to the crowds that attend the event. Probably won't happen because it seems value for money to me.[/p][/quote]But businesses on Madeira Drive have to close for the day and the beach is closed too. So on the whole I don't think there is much economic benefit. However if the event can go ahead without the council being held liable for death and injury then probably the council shouldn't stand in the way. The committee report is actually more balanced than the Argus makes out and one compromise option given is: "That the committee grants initial landlord’s consent subject to the advice of the Safety Advisory Group and further subject to a condition requiring the organisers to fund all associated costs including essential safety requirements needed for the event to take place on the basis that the organisers will retain income from the event."[/p][/quote]Businesses have to close? Can specify which ones, This is utter nonsense, All cafes and bars on the road are absolutely to capacity, The revenue generated from the additional tourists etc is huge! I grant you that the mini golf closes (I beleieve), Im sure this in no way constitutes no economic benefit. The beach is closed, Oh wow, There are about 7 miles or so of beach, one small stretch is closed for one day, with no impact what so ever. And you wonder why the residents of this City cant wait to see the back of you! Brighton1000

1:02pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Wiggsy says...

Tallywhacker wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
bikerjimbo wrote: So it will cost 100k to resurface the road, less than half the cost of a referendum, plus money well spent due to the crowds that attend the event. Probably won't happen because it seems value for money to me.
But businesses on Madeira Drive have to close for the day and the beach is closed too. So on the whole I don't think there is much economic benefit. However if the event can go ahead without the council being held liable for death and injury then probably the council shouldn't stand in the way. The committee report is actually more balanced than the Argus makes out and one compromise option given is: "That the committee grants initial landlord’s consent subject to the advice of the Safety Advisory Group and further subject to a condition requiring the organisers to fund all associated costs including essential safety requirements needed for the event to take place on the basis that the organisers will retain income from the event."
More people have died using the beach since 1905 than during the speed trials. Are you suggesting the beach should be closed for health and safety? And gosh there are what maybe 20 businesses on the drive. How about the health and safety issues of non bin collections....
Indeed, and as said previously the marathon due to a runner dying in the event last year.
[quote][p][bold]Tallywhacker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bikerjimbo[/bold] wrote: So it will cost 100k to resurface the road, less than half the cost of a referendum, plus money well spent due to the crowds that attend the event. Probably won't happen because it seems value for money to me.[/p][/quote]But businesses on Madeira Drive have to close for the day and the beach is closed too. So on the whole I don't think there is much economic benefit. However if the event can go ahead without the council being held liable for death and injury then probably the council shouldn't stand in the way. The committee report is actually more balanced than the Argus makes out and one compromise option given is: "That the committee grants initial landlord’s consent subject to the advice of the Safety Advisory Group and further subject to a condition requiring the organisers to fund all associated costs including essential safety requirements needed for the event to take place on the basis that the organisers will retain income from the event."[/p][/quote]More people have died using the beach since 1905 than during the speed trials. Are you suggesting the beach should be closed for health and safety? And gosh there are what maybe 20 businesses on the drive. How about the health and safety issues of non bin collections....[/p][/quote]Indeed, and as said previously the marathon due to a runner dying in the event last year. Wiggsy

5:01pm Thu 23 Jan 14

motco says...

According to Twitter the vote for the continuation was carried unanimously! Remains to be confirmed though.
According to Twitter the vote for the continuation was carried unanimously! Remains to be confirmed though. motco

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